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Is this Rebar a fake?

us Offline trichosirius

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Is this Rebar a fake?
on: October 20, 2021, 05:48:05 PM
So I’ve been looking for a BO Rebar in decent shape and came across this one, however the Leatherman logo looks machined differently than I’m used to seeing. Does this look odd to any of you?


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Re: Is this Rebar a fake?
Reply #1 on: October 20, 2021, 06:16:54 PM
Looks real to me :dunno: Usually fakes are never that close (except for the Tread) I will find a pic of a Rebar plier head and put it in here  :cheers:


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Re: Is this Rebar a fake?
Reply #2 on: October 20, 2021, 06:25:16 PM
This is a Signal and Wave Plus plier head but the Signal has the exact plier head as the Rebar so you can compare :cheers:



I will take a close up of a Rebar plier head when I get home this evening if I think  :salute:


us Offline trichosirius

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Re: Is this Rebar a fake?
Reply #3 on: October 20, 2021, 06:35:48 PM
Thanks for the pics  :salute:

Comparing those it does look the same. My concern was that the edges of the routed/cast(?) channel looked wavy and I’ve only seen them look smooth.
The pic uploaded by the seller also isn’t the best so that doesn’t help.
Thanks again  :hatsoff:


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Re: Is this Rebar a fake?
Reply #4 on: October 20, 2021, 06:38:50 PM
:2tu:


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Re: Is this Rebar a fake?
Reply #5 on: October 21, 2021, 12:25:11 AM
So I’ve been looking for a BO Rebar in decent shape and came across this one, however the Leatherman logo looks machined differently than I’m used to seeing. Does this look odd to any of you?
i've gotta say the cutout looks wonky to me, i have a rebar, pic incoming and that portion is smooth. also the pivot on mine seems much closer to the logo. also the wirecutters seem ground much closer to the screw than mine. also checked my signal based on poncho's say so and again, these same things look wrong to me.

When I got my rebar I paid around $35 is that worth counterfeiting? i suppose nowadays maybe

my signal is 2017 and 2014 for the rebar
edit, looking at it again, it almost looks like the pivot is not centered on the logo, and i cannot tell what kind of screw is holding the wire cutters on.
edit 2, went to leatherman.com and the BO is fully BO meaning the screws and the wirecutter are black oxide which does not appear to be the case in your picture.
edit 3 ok looking at the A in both my 2014 rebar and 2017 signal the hole is almost not there, but your picture they are more prominent.
« Last Edit: October 21, 2021, 12:42:36 AM by cnlson »


us Offline SteveC

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Re: Is this Rebar a fake?
Reply #6 on: October 21, 2021, 01:24:52 AM
Something looks a bit off with it but I doubt its a fake. Someone might have messed with it a bit trying to change the cutters.


Here's one that's not too bad of a deal and has the Make an offer option.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/185107794408?hash=item2b1948c9e8:g:Y8kAAOSwy-phaTrn


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Re: Is this Rebar a fake?
Reply #7 on: October 21, 2021, 01:48:55 AM
Already bought it  :oops:

I’m not too concerned though, I don’t feel like I paid too much (if it’s real) and the other tools look legit, and in good shape.
That plier head just looks off  :think:



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Re: Is this Rebar a fake?
Reply #8 on: October 21, 2021, 03:13:13 AM
After seeing the rest of the pics I still think it's real :cheers:

I think that they zoomed in on the plier head after taking the pic and it maybe became pixelated  :think:



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Re: Is this Rebar a fake?
Reply #9 on: October 21, 2021, 03:40:23 AM
That’s what I’m thinking. The photos aren’t the best and perspective could be the cause of any apparent wonkiness. If it’s a copy it’s a good one.


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Re: Is this Rebar a fake?
Reply #10 on: October 21, 2021, 05:05:25 AM
Here's one that's not too bad of a deal and has the Make an offer option.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/185107794408?hash=item2b1948c9e8:g:Y8kAAOSwy-phaTrn

man the prices are crazy, I paid half what leatherman sells them for now when I got mine new in 2014. I am fairly sure I paid less for my st300 than what the rebar's are selling for now.


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Re: Is this Rebar a fake?
Reply #11 on: October 21, 2021, 12:03:30 PM
Already bought it  :oops:

I’m not too concerned though, I don’t feel like I paid too much (if it’s real) and the other tools look legit, and in good shape.
That plier head just looks off  :think:

I don't even know if there is a fake rebar out there. Even if it was - yours is legit, they can't copy it so close. The brands that suffer the most of the clones are mainly  those who manufacture at least part of their things in China. This way they just open their tooling, machining process and designs to those practices. Like Spyderco, Buck and even Benchmade. Heck, some of the newer Benchmade clones are so good nowadays that I am a bit scared to buy a new one.

man the prices are crazy, I paid half what leatherman sells them for now when I got mine new in 2014. I am fairly sure I paid less for my st300 than what the rebar's are selling for now.

It amazes me how people are (generally) fine with the prices of more expensive, single bladed knives but are furious about the price of a new $70-100 Leatherman with so much implements in it. Let's take Spyderco's PM2 for example (awesome knife, nothing against it. Have one and love it). One of the most famous and widely spread modern knives. The simplest version is currently listed 154$ with one of the big retailers. With the exclusives and custom handles easily going to 3-350. Compare that price wise to any Leatherman and tell me how they are expensive.
I hope that this don't sound like an attack, rant or any kind of offence against  cnlson. Because it's not my intention at all  :cheers: It's just his observation made me share my thoughts. Also in the recent years there are quite a lot of new $$ printed. Add the economic consequences of the lockdowns and we must get used to prices rising.


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Re: Is this Rebar a fake?
Reply #12 on: October 22, 2021, 07:51:03 AM
It amazes me how people are (generally) fine with the prices of more expensive, single bladed knives but are furious about the price of a new $70-100 Leatherman with so much implements in it. Let's take Spyderco's PM2 for example (awesome knife, nothing against it. Have one and love it). One of the most famous and widely spread modern knives. The simplest version is currently listed 154$ with one of the big retailers. With the exclusives and custom handles easily going to 3-350. Compare that price wise to any Leatherman and tell me how they are expensive.
I hope that this don't sound like an attack, rant or any kind of offence against  cnlson. Because it's not my intention at all  :cheers: It's just his observation made me share my thoughts. Also in the recent years there are quite a lot of new $$ printed. Add the economic consequences of the lockdowns and we must get used to prices rising.
I hear you, and i agree Leatherman prices are very reasonable for the quality and functionality they deliver. So I'm not questioning if it is worth $70 new, but I went back and looked and I paid $38 in 2014 for a rebar, I'm just surprised that it is now a $70 Leatherman.
Around the same time a charge TI with a 154CM was about $125 or so, now you can get arguably better charge + and it costs $139. If inflation was really what was influencing the prices the charge would be $250.

As far as inflation goes, once the rubber band rebounds a lot of prices are going down, some are already. Lumber prices are lower now than they were before the pandemic, We lost 15k on selling our house because of this between the time we had an offer and closing.lumber prices dropped in half. We still made plenty of money, just not as much as we would have. Once the supply chain catches up there will be oversupply and prices will come down on a lot of things. 


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Re: Is this Rebar a fake?
Reply #13 on: October 22, 2021, 12:50:12 PM
Regarding house and lumber prices - we are at entirely different situation around here. Houses and apartments are rising as people are looking for a place to store the value of their savings, creating more demand on the housing market. Firewood has gone quite up, have a friend that is carpenter and he said the material he uses is up 20% and the warehouse is expecting another rise 20 to 30% more by the end of the year. I need to go fill my own supplies of craft materials and hope that won't hurt too much  :D

Regarding Leatherman prices - I understand what you are saying, and yes - that's no inflation. I think that they priced the Rebar back then as kind of marketing move, making close to nothing on it. And now they've just priced it so it makes some money. Like now with the prices of the Curl and the Wave - the Curl seems a bit pricey compared to the Wave, but I think it's the other way around - the Wave is cheaper than it can be.   :dunno:


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Re: Is this Rebar a fake?
Reply #14 on: October 24, 2021, 01:33:41 AM
Like now with the prices of the Curl and the Wave - the Curl seems a bit pricey compared to the Wave, but I think it's the other way around - the Wave is cheaper than it can be.   :dunno:
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I'm almost positive that the Wave was priced at $99.99 USD back in 2013; I had just graduated high school and bought myself one with graduation present money. Since the Wave is still $99.99, that means that it has actually gotten cheaper over the years.
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Re: Is this Rebar a fake?
Reply #15 on: November 15, 2021, 09:40:07 PM
So I’ve been looking for a BO Rebar in decent shape and came across this one, however the Leatherman logo looks machined differently than I’m used to seeing. Does this look odd to any of you?

so, it real or is it parkay?


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Re: Is this Rebar a fake?
Reply #16 on: November 16, 2021, 02:30:58 AM
so, it real or is it parkay?
The butter is legit  :tu:


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Re: Is this Rebar a fake?
Reply #17 on: November 16, 2021, 04:52:04 AM
The butter is legit  :tu:
good.
if you are anywhere near minneapolis there is one a on craigslist for $20


 

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