Multitool.org Forum
+-

Hello Lurker! Remove this ad and much more by logging in.


Anomalous Companion/Executive

psyjohn · 39 · 3540
« previous next »
Pages: 1 2   Go Down

us Offline psyjohn

  • Sr. Member
  • ****
    • Posts: 485
Anomalous Companion/Executive
on: November 10, 2023, 11:25:29 PM
I acquired a beautiful vintage knife this week, but I can't determine if it's a Companion with a keyring or an odd Executive. From studying the old catalogs in the wiki and my own collection of nearly 30 Companions/Executives/Directors, I thought the Victoria tang stamp ended when the knife changed names. This is the only one I've ever seen with a keyring and a Victoria stamp. It also has the small fine serrations, which I have only seen on Companions. Also, when I compare it to an Executive and Companion from roughly the same time period it looks exactly like the Companion, other than the keyring.  Is it possible Victorinox released a Companion with a keyring, maybe as they were transitioning between the two models? Has anyone else seen an Executive with a Victoria stamp? Either way, it's a nice addition to my collection.
Merit Badges Start a new thread or Post in a Challenge Thread and post a photo of a Spartan  for 30 days Participate in a Challenge thread, carry a Victorinox Cadet and post a photo every day for 30 consecutive days. Start a thread with photos of at least twelve different colored ALOX models in your collection Start a new thread with photos of at least 12 SAKs of different frame lengths and/or shapes in your collection. Eg 58mm, 74mm, 84mm regular, 84mm slim, 85mm etc

cz Online AndyAaron

  • Hero Member
  • *****
    • Posts: 527
Re: Anomalous Companion/Executive
Reply #1 on: November 11, 2023, 07:32:17 AM
Congrats to your acquire!
Isn’t it possible that the previous owner just added the keyring to be able to carry it on his keys?
Merit Badges Participate in a Challenge thread, carry a Buck knife or tool, and post a photo every day for 30 consecutive days. Participate in a Challenge and post a photo of a Traditional Scout Knife (No SAK's Allowed) for thirty (30) consecutive days. Participate in a Challenge thread and post a photo  of 84 and 85 mm Swiss Army Knives (and Wengers) for 30 days Participate in a Challenge thread and post a photo of  a Opinel  knife  for 30 days

fi Offline Antti Lammi

  • Global Moderator
  • *
  • Absolutely No Life Club
  • *
    • Posts: 7,781
  • Only Tools Matters
Re: Anomalous Companion/Executive
Reply #2 on: November 11, 2023, 12:07:03 PM
I think that hits just around transitions, blade was probably older production ( why waste perfectly good blades by throwing them to trash when you can use those)
Also there is slight change it was sended to warranty/repair and they had old stock blades and used those to repair Executive.
Anyway its still really excellent find.
I know there is really good members to tell im on right track or completly loss on my guesses.


Only Tools Matters
Merit Badges Start a new thread with photos of at least 12 different Wenger models in your collection Must start a thread with a photo of at least five (5) of your watches Participate  in Challenge thread and post a photo of a Vic Spirit MT for sixty (60) consecutive days. Participate in a challenge thread and post a photo of a SAK Cybertool (any variant), Swisschamp, Champion or Toolchest for sixty (60) consecutive days. Must put something in order and provide link to the post. Participate in a Challenge thread, carry at least one black edc item, and post a photo every day for 30 consecutive days. Participate in a Challenge thread, carry at least one red edc item, and post a photo every day for 30 consecutive days. Participate in a Challenge thread and post a photo of a SAK-alike, aka multi-layered, knife-based pocket tools for thirty (30) consecutive days. Start a new thread with photos of at least 12 SAKs of different frame lengths and/or shapes in your collection. Eg 58mm, 74mm, 84mm regular, 84mm slim, 85mm etc Start a new thread and post a photo of the multitool for thirty (30) consecutive days. For 30 consecutive days carry a SAK with a magnifying glass, and post a picture every day in the designated thread. Participate in a Challenge thread, carry a SAK, duct tape, and paperclip, and post a photo every day for 30 consecutive days. Participate in a challenge by carrying  a Combo Edged knife or Multitool and post a photo of it  for thirty (30) consecutive days. Find him! Start a new thread with photos of at least 3 different 130mm models in your collection Start a new thread with photos of at least 5 different 111mm models in your collection Must start a thread with a photo of your camo SAK Participate  in Challenge thread and post a photo of a Alox SAK for thirty (30) consecutive days. Start a new thread with photos of at least 8 different Wenger models in your collection Participate  in Challenge thread and post a photo of a Explorer SAK for thirty (30) consecutive days. Start a new thread demonstrating paracord knot tying

us Offline psyjohn

  • Sr. Member
  • ****
    • Posts: 485
Re: Anomalous Companion/Executive
Reply #3 on: November 11, 2023, 02:43:11 PM
Quote from: Antti Lammi
...blade was probably older production ( why waste perfectly good blades by throwing them to trash when you can use those)[/quote

I think you're right. The 74mm knives seem to be where that's most likely to happen. Looks like they used older stock for both the blade and the orange peeler on this one.
Merit Badges Start a new thread or Post in a Challenge Thread and post a photo of a Spartan  for 30 days Participate in a Challenge thread, carry a Victorinox Cadet and post a photo every day for 30 consecutive days. Start a thread with photos of at least twelve different colored ALOX models in your collection Start a new thread with photos of at least 12 SAKs of different frame lengths and/or shapes in your collection. Eg 58mm, 74mm, 84mm regular, 84mm slim, 85mm etc

cz Offline z1913

  • *
  • Hero Member
  • *****
    • Posts: 755
Re: Anomalous Companion/Executive
Reply #4 on: November 11, 2023, 05:35:34 PM
Could you share picture of your 30 Executives?
Merit Badges Start a new thread and post a photo daily of any SAK 74mm or smaller ( you can switch it up daily ) for thirty (30) consecutive days. Start a new thread or Post in a Challenge Thread and post a photo of a Spartan  for 30 days Start a new thread with photos of at least 12 SAKs of different frame lengths and/or shapes in your collection. Eg 58mm, 74mm, 84mm regular, 84mm slim, 85mm etc Start a new thread with photos of at least 3 different 130mm models in your collection Start a thread with photos of at least five different colored ALOX models in your collection Take part in the christmas pool or a rak type giveaway. Those wanting to say thank you for a rak may also nominate for the santa. For 30 consecutive days carry a SAK with a magnifying glass, and post a picture every day in the designated thread. Start a new thread with photos of at least 5 different 111mm models in your collection Start a new thread with a photo showing the Hook in use Start a new thread with photos of at least 12 different Wenger models in your collection Participate  in Challenge thread and post a photo of a Delemont SAK for thirty (30) consecutive days. Participate  in Challenge thread and post a photo of a Classic SAK for thirty (30) consecutive days. Participate and post a pic of your vintage SAK (1986 or earlier) everyday for 30 days. Start a new thread and post a photo of the minimal sak (2 layers or fewer) for thirty (30) consecutive days.

us Offline psyjohn

  • Sr. Member
  • ****
    • Posts: 485
Re: Anomalous Companion/Executive
Reply #5 on: November 11, 2023, 07:34:13 PM
Quote from: z1913 on November 11, 2023, 05:35:34 PM
Could you share picture of your 30 Executives?

I won't have time today to get them all out and "pose" them, but I should be able to next weekend. Also, I think I'm a couple short of 30; that was just a rough estimate in my head.
Merit Badges Start a new thread or Post in a Challenge Thread and post a photo of a Spartan  for 30 days Participate in a Challenge thread, carry a Victorinox Cadet and post a photo every day for 30 consecutive days. Start a thread with photos of at least twelve different colored ALOX models in your collection Start a new thread with photos of at least 12 SAKs of different frame lengths and/or shapes in your collection. Eg 58mm, 74mm, 84mm regular, 84mm slim, 85mm etc

fi Offline Antti Lammi

  • Global Moderator
  • *
  • Absolutely No Life Club
  • *
    • Posts: 7,781
  • Only Tools Matters
Re: Anomalous Companion/Executive
Reply #6 on: November 11, 2023, 08:37:44 PM
Because of this thread, i had to dig up my Executive just go notice its actually Companion cause it doesnt have keyring and now closer inspection noticed that it has adjustable screw on scissors. I always tought it was newer model executive, when i boughted it came in leather sleeve and only took fast look until i putted it away on drawer with other SAKs and Wengers





Only Tools Matters
Merit Badges Start a new thread with photos of at least 12 different Wenger models in your collection Must start a thread with a photo of at least five (5) of your watches Participate  in Challenge thread and post a photo of a Vic Spirit MT for sixty (60) consecutive days. Participate in a challenge thread and post a photo of a SAK Cybertool (any variant), Swisschamp, Champion or Toolchest for sixty (60) consecutive days. Must put something in order and provide link to the post. Participate in a Challenge thread, carry at least one black edc item, and post a photo every day for 30 consecutive days. Participate in a Challenge thread, carry at least one red edc item, and post a photo every day for 30 consecutive days. Participate in a Challenge thread and post a photo of a SAK-alike, aka multi-layered, knife-based pocket tools for thirty (30) consecutive days. Start a new thread with photos of at least 12 SAKs of different frame lengths and/or shapes in your collection. Eg 58mm, 74mm, 84mm regular, 84mm slim, 85mm etc Start a new thread and post a photo of the multitool for thirty (30) consecutive days. For 30 consecutive days carry a SAK with a magnifying glass, and post a picture every day in the designated thread. Participate in a Challenge thread, carry a SAK, duct tape, and paperclip, and post a photo every day for 30 consecutive days. Participate in a challenge by carrying  a Combo Edged knife or Multitool and post a photo of it  for thirty (30) consecutive days. Find him! Start a new thread with photos of at least 3 different 130mm models in your collection Start a new thread with photos of at least 5 different 111mm models in your collection Must start a thread with a photo of your camo SAK Participate  in Challenge thread and post a photo of a Alox SAK for thirty (30) consecutive days. Start a new thread with photos of at least 8 different Wenger models in your collection Participate  in Challenge thread and post a photo of a Explorer SAK for thirty (30) consecutive days. Start a new thread demonstrating paracord knot tying

us Offline psyjohn

  • Sr. Member
  • ****
    • Posts: 485
Re: Anomalous Companion/Executive
Reply #7 on: November 11, 2023, 11:21:42 PM
 :like:
Merit Badges Start a new thread or Post in a Challenge Thread and post a photo of a Spartan  for 30 days Participate in a Challenge thread, carry a Victorinox Cadet and post a photo every day for 30 consecutive days. Start a thread with photos of at least twelve different colored ALOX models in your collection Start a new thread with photos of at least 12 SAKs of different frame lengths and/or shapes in your collection. Eg 58mm, 74mm, 84mm regular, 84mm slim, 85mm etc

cz Offline z1913

  • *
  • Hero Member
  • *****
    • Posts: 755
Re: Anomalous Companion/Executive
Reply #8 on: November 12, 2023, 07:14:10 AM
Quote from: psyjohn on November 11, 2023, 07:34:13 PM
I won't have time today to get them all out and "pose" them, but I should be able to next weekend. Also, I think I'm a couple short of 30; that was just a rough estimate in my head.

That would be excellent. And of course no stress - I just really enjoy group collection pictures. Thank you!
Merit Badges Start a new thread and post a photo daily of any SAK 74mm or smaller ( you can switch it up daily ) for thirty (30) consecutive days. Start a new thread or Post in a Challenge Thread and post a photo of a Spartan  for 30 days Start a new thread with photos of at least 12 SAKs of different frame lengths and/or shapes in your collection. Eg 58mm, 74mm, 84mm regular, 84mm slim, 85mm etc Start a new thread with photos of at least 3 different 130mm models in your collection Start a thread with photos of at least five different colored ALOX models in your collection Take part in the christmas pool or a rak type giveaway. Those wanting to say thank you for a rak may also nominate for the santa. For 30 consecutive days carry a SAK with a magnifying glass, and post a picture every day in the designated thread. Start a new thread with photos of at least 5 different 111mm models in your collection Start a new thread with a photo showing the Hook in use Start a new thread with photos of at least 12 different Wenger models in your collection Participate  in Challenge thread and post a photo of a Delemont SAK for thirty (30) consecutive days. Participate  in Challenge thread and post a photo of a Classic SAK for thirty (30) consecutive days. Participate and post a pic of your vintage SAK (1986 or earlier) everyday for 30 days. Start a new thread and post a photo of the minimal sak (2 layers or fewer) for thirty (30) consecutive days.

us Offline Explorer

  • *
  • No Life Club
  • ******
    • Posts: 1,794
Re: Anomalous Companion/Executive
Reply #9 on: November 12, 2023, 03:02:01 PM
 :popcorn:
Merit Badges Participate in a Challenge thread, carry a SAK, duct tape, and paperclip, and post a photo every day for 30 consecutive days. Start a new thread and post a photo of any gear for thirty (30) consecutive days during the MTo anniversary month. Participate in the Challenge thread and post a photo of a Flashlight for thirty (30) consecutive days. Participate in a Challenge, carry a fire-starting item and post a picture daily  (in use if possible) for 30 days. Lighters, matches, ferro rods, fire pistons, Signal, candles, sparkers, tinder, stoves, bowdrill sets. Participate  in Challenge thread and post a photo of a Classic SAK for thirty (30) consecutive days. Start a new thread and post a photo of the discontinued sak/mt for thirty (30) consecutive days. Participate  in Challenge thread and post a photo of a Alox SAK for thirty (30) consecutive days. Participate in a Challenge thread and post a photo  of 84 and 85 mm Swiss Army Knives (and Wengers) for 30 days Participate and post a pic of your vintage SAK (1986 or earlier) everyday for 30 days. Participate in a challenge thread and post a photo of a SAK Cybertool (any variant), Swisschamp, Champion or Toolchest for thirty (30) consecutive days. Start a new thread and post a photo of a Camper SAK for thirty (30) consecutive days. Start a new thread and post a photo of an Executive or Director for thirty (30) consecutive days. Participate  in Challenge thread and post a photo of a MiniChamp SAK for thirty (30) consecutive days.

au Offline Huntsman

  • Global Moderator
  • *
  • Absolutely No Life Club
  • *
    • Posts: 5,517
Re: Anomalous Companion/Executive
Reply #10 on: November 13, 2023, 01:29:17 PM
Hey psyjohn

Great post and nice piccies of an old Companion/Executive - Can I please use the images in the Wiki ?   ???

For me (not the Wiki!) - I don't get too hung up on model names and dates - We can only ever be approximate with either of these, it seems - due to old parts being used in newer models, and SAKs changing names and configurations over the years !!
Merit Badges Must update or add a page on SAKWiki Start a new thread with photos of a Japanese made PST in your collection Take part in the christmas pool or a rak type giveaway. Those wanting to say thank you for a rak may also nominate for the santa. Must buy an item through the MTo Store Start a new thread with a photo of your custom ALOX with scissors Start a thread with photos of at least 1 MTO branded tool in your collection Post your pocket dump photos then challenge two more members who must post their pocket dump photos within 24hrs for you to get the badge. Must post a step by step pictorial of a knife or multitool modification (scale swap not included) Must start a thread with a photo of your birth year SAK Must start a thread showing a photo of at least three BO tools Start a thread with photos of at least eight different colored ALOX models in your collection Start a new thread and post a photo of a flashlight as part of your EDC Start a thread with a photo of a repair you made with duct tape Start a new thread with a photo of custom or non standard SAK scales in your collection Must put something in order and provide link to the post.

us Offline psyjohn

  • Sr. Member
  • ****
    • Posts: 485
Re: Anomalous Companion/Executive
Reply #11 on: November 14, 2023, 12:15:56 AM
Quote from: Huntsman on November 13, 2023, 01:29:17 PM
Hey psyjohn

Great post and nice piccies of an old Companion/Executive - Can I please use the images in the Wiki ?   ???

I would be very honored to have a picture in the wiki. If you want a better picture please let me know.
Merit Badges Start a new thread or Post in a Challenge Thread and post a photo of a Spartan  for 30 days Participate in a Challenge thread, carry a Victorinox Cadet and post a photo every day for 30 consecutive days. Start a thread with photos of at least twelve different colored ALOX models in your collection Start a new thread with photos of at least 12 SAKs of different frame lengths and/or shapes in your collection. Eg 58mm, 74mm, 84mm regular, 84mm slim, 85mm etc

Offline Imnotsamiam

  • New User
    • Posts: 2
Re: Anomalous Companion/Executive
Reply #12 on: November 14, 2023, 12:51:10 AM
 Not sure how anomalous, but I appear to have similar version, also with key ring.
  [ You are not allowed to view this attachment ]  
  [ You are not allowed to view this attachment ]  
  [ You are not allowed to view this attachment ]  

au Offline Huntsman

  • Global Moderator
  • *
  • Absolutely No Life Club
  • *
    • Posts: 5,517
Re: Anomalous Companion/Executive
Reply #13 on: November 14, 2023, 02:53:31 AM
Nice one Imnotsamiam - Lovely old model and great pics   .... and welcome to MT.o     :tu:     :D

@psyjohn
Images are in - Please check em out - And let me know if the credit message is OK - and any other feedback/comments
https://sakwiki.com/tiki-index.php?page=Executive+74mm#History
- Top of history section and also on the OP page
« Last Edit: November 14, 2023, 03:20:44 AM by Huntsman »
Merit Badges Must update or add a page on SAKWiki Start a new thread with photos of a Japanese made PST in your collection Take part in the christmas pool or a rak type giveaway. Those wanting to say thank you for a rak may also nominate for the santa. Must buy an item through the MTo Store Start a new thread with a photo of your custom ALOX with scissors Start a thread with photos of at least 1 MTO branded tool in your collection Post your pocket dump photos then challenge two more members who must post their pocket dump photos within 24hrs for you to get the badge. Must post a step by step pictorial of a knife or multitool modification (scale swap not included) Must start a thread with a photo of your birth year SAK Must start a thread showing a photo of at least three BO tools Start a thread with photos of at least eight different colored ALOX models in your collection Start a new thread and post a photo of a flashlight as part of your EDC Start a thread with a photo of a repair you made with duct tape Start a new thread with a photo of custom or non standard SAK scales in your collection Must put something in order and provide link to the post.

us Offline psyjohn

  • Sr. Member
  • ****
    • Posts: 485
Re: Anomalous Companion/Executive
Reply #14 on: November 14, 2023, 04:34:21 PM
@Huntsman
Looks great! I feel like a real collector now.  :D
Merit Badges Start a new thread or Post in a Challenge Thread and post a photo of a Spartan  for 30 days Participate in a Challenge thread, carry a Victorinox Cadet and post a photo every day for 30 consecutive days. Start a thread with photos of at least twelve different colored ALOX models in your collection Start a new thread with photos of at least 12 SAKs of different frame lengths and/or shapes in your collection. Eg 58mm, 74mm, 84mm regular, 84mm slim, 85mm etc

de Offline tinker gnome

  • *
  • Sr. Member
  • ****
    • Posts: 271
Re: Anomalous Companion/Executive
Reply #15 on: November 14, 2023, 04:57:11 PM
No need to be humble, psyjohn!  :hatsoff:

With roundabout thirty executives alone you are a real collector!  :ahhh  :whistle:
Best regards and stay safe,

Wolfgang

au Offline Huntsman

  • Global Moderator
  • *
  • Absolutely No Life Club
  • *
    • Posts: 5,517
Re: Anomalous Companion/Executive
Reply #16 on: November 20, 2023, 07:01:05 AM
Hey fans of the Executive,

This thread has lead to a nice update to the Orange Peeler page in the Wiki
https://sakwiki.com/tiki-index.php?page=Orange+Peeler
And a few more images in the Executive image gallery

I would really like to put in links to the missing two images/variations from the page - See image below

Can someone please do a side by side photo of OP types 3 and 4 - Then I can add it.
I guess the image on the page is one of them!!  ???    :think:
From a personal perspective I am struggling to see the difference between those two variations :o  ....... based on images already in the gallery


Thank you
« Last Edit: November 20, 2023, 02:05:14 PM by Huntsman »
Merit Badges Must update or add a page on SAKWiki Start a new thread with photos of a Japanese made PST in your collection Take part in the christmas pool or a rak type giveaway. Those wanting to say thank you for a rak may also nominate for the santa. Must buy an item through the MTo Store Start a new thread with a photo of your custom ALOX with scissors Start a thread with photos of at least 1 MTO branded tool in your collection Post your pocket dump photos then challenge two more members who must post their pocket dump photos within 24hrs for you to get the badge. Must post a step by step pictorial of a knife or multitool modification (scale swap not included) Must start a thread with a photo of your birth year SAK Must start a thread showing a photo of at least three BO tools Start a thread with photos of at least eight different colored ALOX models in your collection Start a new thread and post a photo of a flashlight as part of your EDC Start a thread with a photo of a repair you made with duct tape Start a new thread with a photo of custom or non standard SAK scales in your collection Must put something in order and provide link to the post.

fi Offline Antti Lammi

  • Global Moderator
  • *
  • Absolutely No Life Club
  • *
    • Posts: 7,781
  • Only Tools Matters
Re: Anomalous Companion/Executive
Reply #17 on: November 20, 2023, 04:51:24 PM
Is there high res pic on that sakwiki picture, to me that looks wide/deep serration. I try take pictures of my version of serrations.


Only Tools Matters
Merit Badges Start a new thread with photos of at least 12 different Wenger models in your collection Must start a thread with a photo of at least five (5) of your watches Participate  in Challenge thread and post a photo of a Vic Spirit MT for sixty (60) consecutive days. Participate in a challenge thread and post a photo of a SAK Cybertool (any variant), Swisschamp, Champion or Toolchest for sixty (60) consecutive days. Must put something in order and provide link to the post. Participate in a Challenge thread, carry at least one black edc item, and post a photo every day for 30 consecutive days. Participate in a Challenge thread, carry at least one red edc item, and post a photo every day for 30 consecutive days. Participate in a Challenge thread and post a photo of a SAK-alike, aka multi-layered, knife-based pocket tools for thirty (30) consecutive days. Start a new thread with photos of at least 12 SAKs of different frame lengths and/or shapes in your collection. Eg 58mm, 74mm, 84mm regular, 84mm slim, 85mm etc Start a new thread and post a photo of the multitool for thirty (30) consecutive days. For 30 consecutive days carry a SAK with a magnifying glass, and post a picture every day in the designated thread. Participate in a Challenge thread, carry a SAK, duct tape, and paperclip, and post a photo every day for 30 consecutive days. Participate in a challenge by carrying  a Combo Edged knife or Multitool and post a photo of it  for thirty (30) consecutive days. Find him! Start a new thread with photos of at least 3 different 130mm models in your collection Start a new thread with photos of at least 5 different 111mm models in your collection Must start a thread with a photo of your camo SAK Participate  in Challenge thread and post a photo of a Alox SAK for thirty (30) consecutive days. Start a new thread with photos of at least 8 different Wenger models in your collection Participate  in Challenge thread and post a photo of a Explorer SAK for thirty (30) consecutive days. Start a new thread demonstrating paracord knot tying

fi Offline Antti Lammi

  • Global Moderator
  • *
  • Absolutely No Life Club
  • *
    • Posts: 7,781
  • Only Tools Matters
Re: Anomalous Companion/Executive
Reply #18 on: November 20, 2023, 04:55:20 PM
Here is my pic, i need maybe bit more natural light to get better pic.




Only Tools Matters
Merit Badges Start a new thread with photos of at least 12 different Wenger models in your collection Must start a thread with a photo of at least five (5) of your watches Participate  in Challenge thread and post a photo of a Vic Spirit MT for sixty (60) consecutive days. Participate in a challenge thread and post a photo of a SAK Cybertool (any variant), Swisschamp, Champion or Toolchest for sixty (60) consecutive days. Must put something in order and provide link to the post. Participate in a Challenge thread, carry at least one black edc item, and post a photo every day for 30 consecutive days. Participate in a Challenge thread, carry at least one red edc item, and post a photo every day for 30 consecutive days. Participate in a Challenge thread and post a photo of a SAK-alike, aka multi-layered, knife-based pocket tools for thirty (30) consecutive days. Start a new thread with photos of at least 12 SAKs of different frame lengths and/or shapes in your collection. Eg 58mm, 74mm, 84mm regular, 84mm slim, 85mm etc Start a new thread and post a photo of the multitool for thirty (30) consecutive days. For 30 consecutive days carry a SAK with a magnifying glass, and post a picture every day in the designated thread. Participate in a Challenge thread, carry a SAK, duct tape, and paperclip, and post a photo every day for 30 consecutive days. Participate in a challenge by carrying  a Combo Edged knife or Multitool and post a photo of it  for thirty (30) consecutive days. Find him! Start a new thread with photos of at least 3 different 130mm models in your collection Start a new thread with photos of at least 5 different 111mm models in your collection Must start a thread with a photo of your camo SAK Participate  in Challenge thread and post a photo of a Alox SAK for thirty (30) consecutive days. Start a new thread with photos of at least 8 different Wenger models in your collection Participate  in Challenge thread and post a photo of a Explorer SAK for thirty (30) consecutive days. Start a new thread demonstrating paracord knot tying

Offline Imnotsamiam

  • New User
    • Posts: 2
Re: Anomalous Companion/Executive
Reply #19 on: November 21, 2023, 11:25:24 PM
It seems like there are additional variations within the five evolutionary changes listed.  I notice that some are with ‘bevel’ (not sure if correct term) on both sides, while many have that on only one side, with other side flat.  Additionally I have one that almost seems like left handed Orange Peeler, in that the bevel and flat sides are switched sides to all others that I have seen.  Suspect that pictures might make this more clear, but do not happen to have handy at this time.

fi Offline Antti Lammi

  • Global Moderator
  • *
  • Absolutely No Life Club
  • *
    • Posts: 7,781
  • Only Tools Matters
Re: Anomalous Companion/Executive
Reply #20 on: November 21, 2023, 11:36:49 PM
Quote from: Imnotsamiam on November 21, 2023, 11:25:24 PM
It seems like there are additional variations within the five evolutionary changes listed.  I notice that some are with ‘bevel’ (not sure if correct term) on both sides, while many have that on only one side, with other side flat.  Additionally I have one that almost seems like left handed Orange Peeler, in that the bevel and flat sides are switched sides to all others that I have seen.  Suspect that pictures might make this more clear, but do not happen to have handy at this time.
Also gut hook ( i got confirmation on other topic) had changes, some models it have bevel both side and some with only one side (also size of bevel changed but i just suspect that processing tolerances)
Founded also 1-4 variations high res picture differences on serrations.
I dont wanna publish picture without permission of owner.


Only Tools Matters
Merit Badges Start a new thread with photos of at least 12 different Wenger models in your collection Must start a thread with a photo of at least five (5) of your watches Participate  in Challenge thread and post a photo of a Vic Spirit MT for sixty (60) consecutive days. Participate in a challenge thread and post a photo of a SAK Cybertool (any variant), Swisschamp, Champion or Toolchest for sixty (60) consecutive days. Must put something in order and provide link to the post. Participate in a Challenge thread, carry at least one black edc item, and post a photo every day for 30 consecutive days. Participate in a Challenge thread, carry at least one red edc item, and post a photo every day for 30 consecutive days. Participate in a Challenge thread and post a photo of a SAK-alike, aka multi-layered, knife-based pocket tools for thirty (30) consecutive days. Start a new thread with photos of at least 12 SAKs of different frame lengths and/or shapes in your collection. Eg 58mm, 74mm, 84mm regular, 84mm slim, 85mm etc Start a new thread and post a photo of the multitool for thirty (30) consecutive days. For 30 consecutive days carry a SAK with a magnifying glass, and post a picture every day in the designated thread. Participate in a Challenge thread, carry a SAK, duct tape, and paperclip, and post a photo every day for 30 consecutive days. Participate in a challenge by carrying  a Combo Edged knife or Multitool and post a photo of it  for thirty (30) consecutive days. Find him! Start a new thread with photos of at least 3 different 130mm models in your collection Start a new thread with photos of at least 5 different 111mm models in your collection Must start a thread with a photo of your camo SAK Participate  in Challenge thread and post a photo of a Alox SAK for thirty (30) consecutive days. Start a new thread with photos of at least 8 different Wenger models in your collection Participate  in Challenge thread and post a photo of a Explorer SAK for thirty (30) consecutive days. Start a new thread demonstrating paracord knot tying

us Offline Myron

  • *
  • No Life Club
  • ******
    • Posts: 2,388
Re: Anomalous Companion/Executive
Reply #21 on: November 23, 2023, 01:07:47 AM
I love the Executive and it is one of my all-time favorite SAKs, although I haven't carried one in a long time.  Anyway, can I just say how much it bugs me that we call the sharpened back edge of the orange peeler a "gut hook"?    I mean, it's not a gut hook, and the Executive isn't even a hunting knife.   The back edge of the peeler is for scoring the orange peel.  Has anyone on this forum ever used this edge to "gut" a bird or other small game?   

Anybody else irked by this, or is it just me? 
Merit Badges Participants shall carry and use one Soldier knife, the model of their choosing, for the duration of the 90 days and post a picture each day. Participate  in Challenge thread and post a photo of an Old Cross SAK for thirty (30) consecutive days. Participate  in Challenge thread and post a photo of a SAK Soldier for thirty (30) consecutive days. Take part in the christmas pool or a rak type giveaway. Those wanting to say thank you for a rak may also nominate for the santa. Start a new thread with a photo showing the Swiss Army Knife   Toothpick being used in an unusual way. Start a new thread with photos of at least 5 different 111mm models in your collection Start a new thread and post a picture of a fish or fishing kit with a multitool Must start a thread with a photo of your birth year SAK Start a thread with photos of at least twelve different colored ALOX models in your collection Start a new thread with a photo of your custom ALOX with scissors Must post a step by step pictorial of a knife or multitool modification (scale swap not included) Start a new thread with a photo showing the Hook in use Start a new thread demonstrating paracord knot tying Must start a thread with a photo of at least five (5) of your watches

au Offline Huntsman

  • Global Moderator
  • *
  • Absolutely No Life Club
  • *
    • Posts: 5,517
Re: Anomalous Companion/Executive
Reply #22 on: November 23, 2023, 01:53:10 AM
Fair point Mr Myron.
Funny when I first read that something did not feel quite right - But I did not think about it too much
But I do agree with you.

I wondered where this nomenclature came from - So I checked back through at least four catalogues to see if it came from there - But none of them mention a gut hook. It is always referred to as the 'Orange Peeler with Screwdriver tip'
So I guess that description came from one of the former Wiki editors.

I think we should change it - Does everyone else agree?
But if so - What do we call it?  ???  - As the last variation does not have it!    :think:
How about we just call it a 'sharpened hook'

I don't want to call it a sharpened edge - as that could refer to the other main edge on the OP blade
Any other suggestions?  ???
Merit Badges Must update or add a page on SAKWiki Start a new thread with photos of a Japanese made PST in your collection Take part in the christmas pool or a rak type giveaway. Those wanting to say thank you for a rak may also nominate for the santa. Must buy an item through the MTo Store Start a new thread with a photo of your custom ALOX with scissors Start a thread with photos of at least 1 MTO branded tool in your collection Post your pocket dump photos then challenge two more members who must post their pocket dump photos within 24hrs for you to get the badge. Must post a step by step pictorial of a knife or multitool modification (scale swap not included) Must start a thread with a photo of your birth year SAK Must start a thread showing a photo of at least three BO tools Start a thread with photos of at least eight different colored ALOX models in your collection Start a new thread and post a photo of a flashlight as part of your EDC Start a thread with a photo of a repair you made with duct tape Start a new thread with a photo of custom or non standard SAK scales in your collection Must put something in order and provide link to the post.

fi Offline Antti Lammi

  • Global Moderator
  • *
  • Absolutely No Life Club
  • *
    • Posts: 7,781
  • Only Tools Matters
Re: Anomalous Companion/Executive
Reply #23 on: November 23, 2023, 01:57:21 AM
Quote from: Myron on November 23, 2023, 01:07:47 AM
I love the Executive and it is one of my all-time favorite SAKs, although I haven't carried one in a long time.  Anyway, can I just say how much it bugs me that we call the sharpened back edge of the orange peeler a "gut hook"?    I mean, it's not a gut hook, and the Executive isn't even a hunting knife.   The back edge of the peeler is for scoring the orange peel.  Has anyone on this forum ever used this edge to "gut" a bird or other small game?   

Anybody else irked by this, or is it just me?
Well your right, maybe need just call it hook blade or back blade of orange peeler.


Only Tools Matters
Merit Badges Start a new thread with photos of at least 12 different Wenger models in your collection Must start a thread with a photo of at least five (5) of your watches Participate  in Challenge thread and post a photo of a Vic Spirit MT for sixty (60) consecutive days. Participate in a challenge thread and post a photo of a SAK Cybertool (any variant), Swisschamp, Champion or Toolchest for sixty (60) consecutive days. Must put something in order and provide link to the post. Participate in a Challenge thread, carry at least one black edc item, and post a photo every day for 30 consecutive days. Participate in a Challenge thread, carry at least one red edc item, and post a photo every day for 30 consecutive days. Participate in a Challenge thread and post a photo of a SAK-alike, aka multi-layered, knife-based pocket tools for thirty (30) consecutive days. Start a new thread with photos of at least 12 SAKs of different frame lengths and/or shapes in your collection. Eg 58mm, 74mm, 84mm regular, 84mm slim, 85mm etc Start a new thread and post a photo of the multitool for thirty (30) consecutive days. For 30 consecutive days carry a SAK with a magnifying glass, and post a picture every day in the designated thread. Participate in a Challenge thread, carry a SAK, duct tape, and paperclip, and post a photo every day for 30 consecutive days. Participate in a challenge by carrying  a Combo Edged knife or Multitool and post a photo of it  for thirty (30) consecutive days. Find him! Start a new thread with photos of at least 3 different 130mm models in your collection Start a new thread with photos of at least 5 different 111mm models in your collection Must start a thread with a photo of your camo SAK Participate  in Challenge thread and post a photo of a Alox SAK for thirty (30) consecutive days. Start a new thread with photos of at least 8 different Wenger models in your collection Participate  in Challenge thread and post a photo of a Explorer SAK for thirty (30) consecutive days. Start a new thread demonstrating paracord knot tying

Offline Helvetica Bold

  • Hero Member
  • *****
    • Posts: 890
Re: Anomalous Companion/Executive
Reply #24 on: November 23, 2023, 08:54:34 AM
It could just be another form of box cutter/opener!  :rofl:
Merit Badges Participate in a challenge thread and post a photo of a SAK Cybertool (any variant), Swisschamp, Champion or Toolchest for sixty (60) consecutive days. Start a new thread with a photo showing the Hook in use Start a new thread and post a photo of the minimal sak (2 layers or fewer) for thirty (30) consecutive days.

00 Offline NeleDo

  • *
  • Full Member
  • ***
    • Posts: 187
Re: Anomalous Companion/Executive
Reply #25 on: November 23, 2023, 09:57:14 AM
We could name that tool whatever we want, but Victorinox made it and they call it "Orange peeler". Just like the 58mm Cuticle pusher that's unofficially called "coke spoon"  :dunno:
Merit Badges Must update or add a page on SAKWiki Must start a thread with a photo of your birth year SAK Start a new thread with photos of at least 8 different 130mm models in your collection Must post a step by step pictorial of a knife or multitool modification (scale swap not included) Start a thread with photos of at least twelve different colored ALOX models in your collection Must start a thread with a photo of your stayglow SAK Start a new thread with photos of at least 12 different 111mm models in your collection Must start a thread with a photo of your EDC watch Start a new thread with a photo of custom or non standard SAK scales in your collection Start a new thread and post a photo of a flashlight as part of your EDC

us Offline Myron

  • *
  • No Life Club
  • ******
    • Posts: 2,388
Re: Anomalous Companion/Executive
Reply #26 on: November 23, 2023, 04:10:05 PM
Yes, this is something of a conundrum, I see.  I guess I'll just refer to the whole tool as the orange peeler and when I need to describe its sharpened back edge I'll say "the sharpened back edge of the orange peeler."   Not too catchy, I admit.  :)
Merit Badges Participants shall carry and use one Soldier knife, the model of their choosing, for the duration of the 90 days and post a picture each day. Participate  in Challenge thread and post a photo of an Old Cross SAK for thirty (30) consecutive days. Participate  in Challenge thread and post a photo of a SAK Soldier for thirty (30) consecutive days. Take part in the christmas pool or a rak type giveaway. Those wanting to say thank you for a rak may also nominate for the santa. Start a new thread with a photo showing the Swiss Army Knife   Toothpick being used in an unusual way. Start a new thread with photos of at least 5 different 111mm models in your collection Start a new thread and post a picture of a fish or fishing kit with a multitool Must start a thread with a photo of your birth year SAK Start a thread with photos of at least twelve different colored ALOX models in your collection Start a new thread with a photo of your custom ALOX with scissors Must post a step by step pictorial of a knife or multitool modification (scale swap not included) Start a new thread with a photo showing the Hook in use Start a new thread demonstrating paracord knot tying Must start a thread with a photo of at least five (5) of your watches

au Offline Huntsman

  • Global Moderator
  • *
  • Absolutely No Life Club
  • *
    • Posts: 5,517
Re: Anomalous Companion/Executive
Reply #27 on: November 24, 2023, 12:34:22 AM
OK - I made several changes using info and images from people in this thread

Please check it out - Does the new name for the 'gut hook' make sense ???
https://sakwiki.com/tiki-index.php?page=Orange+Peeler

I think it is a great enhancement to that page

THANKS ALL   :tu:    :salute:
Merit Badges Must update or add a page on SAKWiki Start a new thread with photos of a Japanese made PST in your collection Take part in the christmas pool or a rak type giveaway. Those wanting to say thank you for a rak may also nominate for the santa. Must buy an item through the MTo Store Start a new thread with a photo of your custom ALOX with scissors Start a thread with photos of at least 1 MTO branded tool in your collection Post your pocket dump photos then challenge two more members who must post their pocket dump photos within 24hrs for you to get the badge. Must post a step by step pictorial of a knife or multitool modification (scale swap not included) Must start a thread with a photo of your birth year SAK Must start a thread showing a photo of at least three BO tools Start a thread with photos of at least eight different colored ALOX models in your collection Start a new thread and post a photo of a flashlight as part of your EDC Start a thread with a photo of a repair you made with duct tape Start a new thread with a photo of custom or non standard SAK scales in your collection Must put something in order and provide link to the post.

us Offline Myron

  • *
  • No Life Club
  • ******
    • Posts: 2,388
Re: Anomalous Companion/Executive
Reply #28 on: November 24, 2023, 02:44:27 AM
Fixed forever!  Thank you, Huntsman!

Happy Thanksgiving, one and all.  I am thankful for my many friends here on MTO. :)
Merit Badges Participants shall carry and use one Soldier knife, the model of their choosing, for the duration of the 90 days and post a picture each day. Participate  in Challenge thread and post a photo of an Old Cross SAK for thirty (30) consecutive days. Participate  in Challenge thread and post a photo of a SAK Soldier for thirty (30) consecutive days. Take part in the christmas pool or a rak type giveaway. Those wanting to say thank you for a rak may also nominate for the santa. Start a new thread with a photo showing the Swiss Army Knife   Toothpick being used in an unusual way. Start a new thread with photos of at least 5 different 111mm models in your collection Start a new thread and post a picture of a fish or fishing kit with a multitool Must start a thread with a photo of your birth year SAK Start a thread with photos of at least twelve different colored ALOX models in your collection Start a new thread with a photo of your custom ALOX with scissors Must post a step by step pictorial of a knife or multitool modification (scale swap not included) Start a new thread with a photo showing the Hook in use Start a new thread demonstrating paracord knot tying Must start a thread with a photo of at least five (5) of your watches

gb Offline Rizio Il Ghiro

  • *
  • No Life Club
  • ******
    • Posts: 4,263
Re: Anomalous Companion/Executive
Reply #29 on: November 24, 2023, 02:56:21 AM
Nice work Myron and Huntsman - it was a strange name to use to say the least!  :cheers: :hatsoff:
Merit Badges Participants shall carry and use one Soldier knife, the model of their choosing, for the duration of the 90 days and post a picture each day. Start a new thread and post a photo of an Executive or Director for thirty (30) consecutive days. Participate  in Challenge thread and post a photo of a Explorer SAK for thirty (30) consecutive days. Participate  in Challenge thread and post a photo of a Delemont SAK for thirty (30) consecutive days. Start a new thread and post a photo daily of any SAK 74mm or smaller ( you can switch it up daily ) for thirty (30) consecutive days.  Start a new thread and post a photo of the Vic Pioneer X for thirty (30) consecutive days. Participate  in Challenge thread and post a photo of a Farmer X SAK for thirty (30) consecutive days. Start a new thread and post a photo of the 111mm sak for thirty (30) consecutive days. Participate  in Challenge thread and post a photo of an Old Cross SAK for thirty (30) consecutive days. Start a new thread and post a photo of the minimal sak (2 layers or fewer) for thirty (30) consecutive days. Participate and contribute in Challenge thread and post a photo of a different blade each day for thirty (30) consecutive days. Participate  in Challenge thread and post a photo of a SAK Soldier for thirty (30) consecutive days. Participate in a challenge thread and post a photo of a SAK Cybertool (any variant), Swisschamp, Champion or Toolchest for thirty (30) consecutive days. Start a new thread and post a photo of the multitool for thirty (30) consecutive days. Start a new thread and post a photo of the discontinued sak/mt for thirty (30) consecutive days. Start a new thread and post a photo of the modified sak (scale swap not included) for thirty (30) consecutive days. Participate  in Challenge thread and post a photo of a Alox SAK for thirty (30) consecutive days. Participate and post a pic of your vintage SAK (1986 or earlier) everyday for 30 days. Participate  in Challenge thread and post a photo of a MiniChamp SAK for thirty (30) consecutive days. Start a new thread and post a photo of the pen for thirty (30) consecutive days.  Post a pic for Halloween of your pumpkin (or turnip or gourd or whatever you traditionally carve for Halloween!) being carved by any SAK, multitool, pocket or woods knife you may own!  Only available once a year

Pages: 1 2   Go Up
 

Donations
Operational Funds

Help us keep the Unworkable working!
Donate with PayPal!
April Goal: $300.00
Due Date: Apr 30
Total Receipts: $42.16
PayPal Fees: $2.92
Net Balance: $39.24
Below Goal: $260.76
Site Currency: USD
 13%
April Donations

Community Links
Multitool.org
Multitool Gallery
Multitool Encyclopedia
SAKWiki
Swiss Army Knights

Powered by EzPortal