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Wenger style pliers?

us Offline G-Dizzle

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Wenger style pliers?
on: August 17, 2024, 01:54:46 AM
Hi all. Interested in opinions on the Wenger style SAK pliers. They look more functional than the Vic counterpart. How would they compare to say a Leatherman Juice or Skeletool? I have been looking at S557s but don’t like the price tag.

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Re: Wenger style pliers?
Reply #1 on: August 17, 2024, 02:50:37 AM
Wenger's pliers are interesting. I haven't had a chance to extensively test them, but I believe they'd be perfectly adequate for up to medium-duty gripping tasks. I certainly wouldn't use them as a substitute for a wrench. And I'd use another tool for heavier work. Comparing them to Juice pliers is apples to oranges. They are different basic designs, and the Juice's pliers are non-adjustable and full-sized.

The TL;DR version: while the Wenger-type SAK pliers have their limitations, they're worth trying out for light duty.
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Re: Wenger style pliers?
Reply #2 on: August 17, 2024, 03:31:10 AM
Wenger's pliers are interesting. I haven't had a chance to extensively test them, but I believe they'd be perfectly adequate for up to medium-duty gripping tasks. I certainly wouldn't use them as a substitute for a wrench. And I'd use another tool for heavier work. Comparing them to Juice pliers is apples to oranges. They are different basic designs, and the Juice's pliers are non-adjustable and full-sized.

The TL;DR version: while the Wenger-type SAK pliers have their limitations, they're worth trying out for light duty.
Thanks for the response.
Would you say they are more capable than the Vic pliers or about the same?


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Re: Wenger style pliers?
Reply #3 on: August 17, 2024, 04:11:17 AM
 :cheers:

I'd say the Wenger and Victorinox pliers are pretty evenly matched, with the adjustability of the Wenger type giving them a slight advantage.
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Re: Wenger style pliers?
Reply #4 on: August 17, 2024, 04:12:09 AM
The big 'uns on the Rangers are great!


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Re: Wenger style pliers?
Reply #5 on: August 17, 2024, 04:32:51 AM
The big 'uns on the Rangers are great!

Those seem nice! Which model is that? I wish they made a Ranger with those pliers and a saw blade. Seems a shame not to take advantage of the length of that tool by adding a saw.


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Re: Wenger style pliers?
Reply #6 on: August 17, 2024, 04:43:53 AM
 :iagree: A 130mm with a wood saw would have been great.
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Re: Wenger style pliers?
Reply #7 on: August 17, 2024, 06:40:01 AM
:cheers:

I'd say the Wenger and Victorinox pliers are pretty evenly matched, with the adjustability of the Wenger type giving them a slight advantage.

I agree with this.  The adjustability gives them an edge over the Vic.  Sometimes I wish the jaws were a little bit bigger but they good for their size.
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Re: Wenger style pliers?
Reply #8 on: August 17, 2024, 05:36:42 PM
Those seem nice! Which model is that? I wish they made a Ranger with those pliers and a saw blade. Seems a shame not to take advantage of the length of that tool by adding a saw.

It's a Rangergrip Boatsman. It does look like there were a few with saw and pliers on the wiki. Not sure how hard they'd be to hunt down on fleabay.


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Re: Wenger style pliers?
Reply #9 on: August 18, 2024, 03:37:48 AM
It does look like there were a few with saw and pliers on the wiki. Not sure how hard they'd be to hunt down on fleabay.
There may be a few out there at silly asking prices. (I was watching an Ueli Steck, at a start bid of $380, just to see if it would sell. Nope.)
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Re: Wenger style pliers?
Reply #10 on: August 19, 2024, 02:44:16 AM
It’s been a while since I’ve used the pliers on my 557, but seems like they can cut slightly bigger wire than the Vic pliers and they have a hard wire cutter as well.

But they’re thinner than the Vic pliers.

I liked the tool choice on my Champ better than the 557 so went that route. I also carry a Knipex Cobra XS for when I need more than the Vic pliers.
SAKs:
58mm: Bijou (3), Classic SD (7), Mini Champ Plus (mod), Alox Classic SD, Rambler (3), Companion
65mm: Wenger Esquire
74mm: Executive (2)
85mm: Traveler, Delemont S10, Bass
91mm: Champion "c", Swiss Champ (4), Explorer (3), Deluxe Tinker, Huntsman, Serrated Spartan/Weekender, Explorer Plus, Deluxe Explorer Plus (mod), Outdoorsman Plus, Champion "a", Champion Plus, Timekeeper Alarm, Golfer
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Re: Wenger style pliers?
Reply #11 on: August 19, 2024, 03:49:34 AM
It's a Rangergrip Boatsman.
It does look like there were a few with saw and pliers on the wiki. Not sure how hard they'd be to hunt down on fleabay.

Yep like this one:
https://sakwiki.com/tiki-index.php?page=Wenger+RangerGrip+90

And a few more via the Related  link at the bottom of the page

They would be hard to hunt down, and very expensive/overpriced, as sadly, Vic did not take on these models.
I would have thought that the Model 90 ie with the saw - would have had greater appeal and more customers than the Boatsman ie with the shackle key!
And, of course, deally make both!!!   :climber:   :D
But providing customers with choice does not seem to be in Victorinox's priorities at the moment     :rant:
« Last Edit: August 19, 2024, 04:01:10 AM by Huntsman »


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Re: Wenger style pliers?
Reply #12 on: August 19, 2024, 03:50:25 AM
It’s been a while since I’ve used the pliers on my 557, but seems like they can cut slightly bigger wire than the Vic pliers and they have a hard wire cutter as well.

But they’re thinner than the Vic pliers.

I liked the tool choice on my Champ better than the 557 so went that route. I also carry a Knipex Cobra XS for when I need more than the Vic pliers.

Thanks for the input. Let me know if you decide you want to trade your 557!


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Re: Wenger style pliers?
Reply #13 on: August 19, 2024, 03:51:31 AM
Yep like this one:
https://sakwiki.com/tiki-index.p4002hp?page=Wenger+RangerGrip+90

And a few more via the Related link at the bottom of the page

They would be hard to hunt down and very expensive/overpriced as sadly Vic did not take on these models.
I would have thought that the Model 90 ie with the saw - would have had greater appeal and more customers than the Boatsman ie with the shackle key!

The link is coming back as broken. I have inly found models with the pliers and a file/metal saw, not a wood saw.


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Re: Wenger style pliers?
Reply #14 on: August 19, 2024, 03:58:26 AM
^^^ Apologies - Something went wrong with the URL copy - It is fixed now -

Also my post has been updated with a suggestion and a rant!!   :o    :D   


 

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