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New locking SAKs coming?

us Offline cbl51

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Re: New locking SAKs coming?
Reply #60 on: October 18, 2025, 03:07:57 PM
And how do you sharpen all those teeny little serrations on the package opener? Sooner or later it's gonna need it.

And...what do you do when the pull tab on the can breaks off? I can't believe that I'm the only guy that's ever happened to.
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Re: New locking SAKs coming?
Reply #61 on: October 18, 2025, 03:25:04 PM
Eh.... I don't know. I agree with those that say the skeleton-ized scales look like a real pocket-schmoo magnet...

As far as locking blades go, I can take them or leave them. I don't know... I was never aware that I "needed" a locking blade in a pocket knife until the internet came along and told me I did. As long as I'm following the principles that earned me my Totin' Chit in Scouts, a slip joint is perfectly safe. And when a slip joint won't do the job, I don't know that I trust a locking blade either. Locks do fail. In a situation like that I should either be using a fixed blade... or a knife of any kind simply isn't the right tool for the job.

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YES!!!!!!!!!!!!

I've witnessed two very bad failures of a lock. One, a very foolish young man neatly amputated his right index finger at the second joint when his Buck 110 failed under abuse. He was typical of the new generation of young knife nut idiots who are totally ignorant of what came before, and had very sloppy knife handling habits born of never having a slip joint knife. When the shop lead man told him to knock it off and go get the right tool, his smart a$$ reply was "Its a Buck knife, it'll take it."

Well it didn't and just after lunch a blood curdling scream echoed up from th sheet metal shop and his finger was laying on the floor while a pulsating jet of bright red blood was squirting all over.

The second was a few years later, I had to have some surgery on my left thumb for trigger finger. It was done at a hand clinic, and while I was there for the follow up and getting stitches out, there was a young man in the waiting room sitting by me, with his mother. His right hand was very bandaged up, and in conversation it came out that he was a young knife nut with a new super tactical ninja killer knife, and he was practicing stabbing a tree. The lock failed under impact, and he was having surgery trying to get some use back in his right index finger and thumb that was useless from all the severed nerves and tendons. He had sliced right down through the web of his hand between thumb and index finger and both were now non functional. I don't know the outcome. Yet another young knife guy who never learned proper knife handling with a slip joint.

SAK's need a lock like George Soros needs more money. If a slip joint SAk won't handle it use a fixed blade. The only real honest reason for a lock on a folding knife is, you plan on stabbing something. All other reasons are bull hockey.
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us Offline IMR4198

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Re: New locking SAKs coming?
Reply #62 on: October 18, 2025, 04:05:41 PM
   I rarely use a pocketknife of any sort for food.  My pockets have all sorts of grit, mung, and icky in them.  I sometimes have to use a SAK for a can opener.  I try to wipe and off and hope for the best. 
   I hear our friends in UK and Aussie saying that non-pull tops are rare there.  I will accept their word for it.  It is different here.  I did a little inventory this morning of my canned stuff.  Most recently bought cans tallied like this:  5 cans with pull tops and 12 cans without.  Canned food items only.  No drinks.  Occasionally a pull ring detaches, and you have to resort to plan B. 
   I open packages with a knife blade.  Package opener, or knife blade has to be cleaned off afterward.  I would rather clean a knife blade than the package opener with all the little crevices and teeth.  I use WD40 or rubbing alcohol.  The slick blade is easy to clean.  I wouldn't put an uncleaned package opener equipped SAK in my pocket to start with.  Grit, dirt, etc, remember? 
   I have used the package opener on a Leatherman.  It worked.  Claw can opener looks like it would work as a package opener.  I haven't tried it yet.
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fi Offline Jack the Zipper

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Re: New locking SAKs coming?
Reply #63 on: October 18, 2025, 04:10:55 PM
Objection, argumentative!  :) The function of the folder is to fold, and the only reason to have a knife (not a multitool, not a SAK with different tools) that is not one solid piece of sharpened metal with a handle attached is to save space (ease of carry) and to be concealable (in order not to attract unwanted attention by general population or the law). That goes for legitimate users as well as criminals.

I would LOVE to carry a belt knife openly and everywhere for cases where a SAK just won't "cut" it. Well, I can't. I don't even want a locking small SAK, I have about twenty locking one hand EDC capable folders to fill the need.

I do, however, accept the fact that folders are NOT made for hard use, as in shop work or chopping wood. They will fail. So just pick up the right tool for the right job. If your employer won't equip you with the right tools, quit. But you use what you have in an emergency. Then it's better to have a locking than non-locking knife.

I've carried for about fifty years, got a locking Buck knockoff in 1983 IIRC. The backlock opened my world to whole new  possibilities for knife use, and the thought of stabbing has never crossed my mind.


Offline Richard Zheng

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Re: New locking SAKs coming?
Reply #64 on: October 18, 2025, 04:12:40 PM
And how do you sharpen all those teeny little serrations on the package opener? Sooner or later it's gonna need it.

And...what do you do when the pull tab on the can breaks off? I can't believe that I'm the only guy that's ever happened to.

I assume a diamond rod sharpener would work on the package opener, and as for pull tabs on cans, you are probably SOL



Offline Richard Zheng

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Re: New locking SAKs coming?
Reply #65 on: October 18, 2025, 04:16:30 PM
A fixed blade knife is just objectively the strongest design for a knife for hard use.

But the thing with multitools is that it is often the case that you will always have it on you, and while it may not be ideal for a task, it is more than good enough to let you get something done.

I think adding a locking blade does let you do a lot more with your SAK than you could do before with a slip joint, it has that added safety factor which a lot of people will appreciate


us Offline Old Boy

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Re: New locking SAKs coming?
Reply #66 on: October 21, 2025, 04:38:31 PM
I’m betting they at least changed the blade tang shape so that the closing is softer. I wonder if they have added a half-stop?

Per YouTube no half stop. But hopefully in the act of closing the blade the tang engages the liner lock in an unlocked position so that you can remove the little piggies.


 

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