Do you have any of the Juice series MTs for a comparison pic?
Seriously considering purchasing the PowerPint but concerned that it might not knock the Juice out of my pocket.
I'm going to go out on a limb and say that if the Juice isn't too big for your pocket, then keep the Juice. If you want something lighter, more compact, and has a pocket clip. Then the Pint MIGHT be for you. The Juice does feel better constructed though. The Pint has a big "cool factor" though. :)
:tu:I'm going to go out on a limb and say that if the Juice isn't too big for your pocket, then keep the Juice. If you want something lighter, more compact, and has a pocket clip. Then the Pint MIGHT be for you. The Juice does feel better constructed though. The Pint has a big "cool factor" though. :)
Much Obliged! :cheers:
Totally nit-picking but I can't seem to find an actual closed length measurement anywhere, nor can I find a width measurement.
Do your have a scale to measure weight to see if the quoted 4.2 oz. is accurate?
Also, is there anything on the tool to indicate that it is a first production run?
Sorry to have some many questions... info on this tool is scarce!
Ah... I see now on the packaging that it states a closed length of 3.2 inches which would make it only 0.05 inches shorter than a Juice. However, in pics it looks relatively more shorter than the Xe6. Interesting.No problem. I don't mind answering questions at all. It is pretty expensive for what it is. If I weren't an MT collector, I would have been hesitant as well buying it. :tu:
Thank you for the kind words, Exeter! :cheers:
Great overview and nice pics. :tu: I second the Juice comparison request!
Thanks for sharing! :like:You're welcome, RP! :cheers:
I think I like it. Not sure. Hopefully the price will go down instead of up, and I won't regret having waited.
Looking forward to the reviews on this.
Totally nit-picking but I can't seem to find an actual closed length measurement anywhere, nor can I find a width measurement.
Do your have a scale to measure weight to see if the quoted 4.2 oz. is accurate?
Also, is there anything on the tool to indicate that it is a first production run?
Sorry to have some many questions... info on this tool is scarce!Ah... I see now on the packaging that it states a closed length of 3.2 inches which would make it only 0.05 inches shorter than a Juice. However, in pics it looks relatively more shorter than the Xe6. Interesting.No problem. I don't mind answering questions at all. It is pretty expensive for what it is. If I weren't an MT collector, I would have been hesitant as well buying it. :tu:
The weight and measurement is correct. I don't quite know how to explain this, but the PowerPint feels "small", but in a good way. It has the same 'technical' dimensions of an XE6, but in no way feels as big. The XE6 is huge for a Juice though. I don't normally collect smaller MTs, so I don't have a normal size Juice ti compare it to. :ahhh
The weight must be the biggest factor. It ia really light in hand (feel) and the pocket clip makes is disappear almost in my front right pocket. I do want to note that left front pocket carry may see the tool folding open, since the clip is on the tool end of the handle (unlike the plier end on the access).
I took some more pictures that may shed some light on what I mean by feeling smaller. The compound leverage system takes up a lot of "tool length room" in the PowerPint, so the toola are smaller than the Juices by quite a bit. But, with the compound leverage, you can theoretically get a stronger grip with the pliers on the Pint. The plier end of the Pint is not bulky like thw Juice, so that means you can get a better grip on flush objects and do more detailed oriented plier tasks. :tu:
You're quite welcome, Exeter! :cheers:
As I have an XE6 too, this was a perfect comparison, thanks! :salute:
My PowerPint was shipped today, so I'm pretty excited, although it's still a week at best, maybe much more if they pull it for customs procedure. Anyway, looks really good and pretty much what I imagined.
Excellent write up and pics GLBM :like: :like: :tu:
:drool: was about to order one last night when knifecenter had free shipping, but wanted to wait to see impressions.
Now kicking myself as Knife Center doesn’t have free shipping anymore! Not going to pay an additional $8.
Looks like I’m playing the waiting game. :facepalm:
What is the file like GLBM :think: :tu:No worries, SOG didn't fix the crappy file problem on the Pint. Still only good for fingernails like every SOG file since the PowerPlay. :facepalm:
I have one on the way from KC as well but probably another 2 to 3 weeks wait before its reaches me on the other side of the globe. I am liking the size so far. Thanks for the pics and the overview GLBM! :like:You're quite welcome, Sam Lim! :cheers:
I have one on the way from KC as well but probably another 2 to 3 weeks wait before its reaches me on the other side of the globe. I am liking the size so far. Thanks for the pics and the overview GLBM! :like:You're quite welcome, Sam Lim! :cheers:
It also seems like a tool with mod potential. I removed a pivot pin to stretch the clip out a bit for my thicker jean pocket and the screw and threads looked good. They are fine threads, but screw in deep. The torx head pin didn't act like it was going to strip out when breaking the loctite(some kind of thread glue I am not familiar with).
I hope the one you receive is as good as the on I received. :)
Thanks for the excellent writeup and overview, and the pic comparison is very useful. :cheers: man is this tool small! :ahhhYou're welcome, TP! :cheers:
And with the clip it sure feels like a feather in your pocket. I like the finer pliers and C. Leverage, which allow for precise but super powerful gripping action and pulling, something hard to achieve with smaller MTs.
The awl is a new style that I'm not used to but the older awls in the PL, PP and other old SOGs are my favorite style of awls in all MTs, not including Alox SAKs. This one doesn't seem as good.
The mini screwdriver is much welcome in the 21st century, given the amount of mini screws everywhere. :tu: The bit driver should provide excellent reach capabilities if you carry an extender with your bits, multiplying the versatility of this tool. Also much better to apply force and pressure to a driver that is centered between the tool's handles :salute:
very good so far, if not for the high price this ought to be a best seller and game changer for SOG! Hopefully a better QC and tools like this will make it a champion and serious contender in the multitool world :)
One thing to note is that the pin extends into the clip's mounting hole, so you'll need a washer to take up the space the clip did on the pivot pin. The washer will ens up on the outside of the frame, which isn't a big deal. You could grind the pin down, but a washer gives you the option to put the clip back on. :cheers:I have one on the way from KC as well but probably another 2 to 3 weeks wait before its reaches me on the other side of the globe. I am liking the size so far. Thanks for the pics and the overview GLBM! :like:You're quite welcome, Sam Lim! :cheers:
It also seems like a tool with mod potential. I removed a pivot pin to stretch the clip out a bit for my thicker jean pocket and the screw and threads looked good. They are fine threads, but screw in deep. The torx head pin didn't act like it was going to strip out when breaking the loctite(some kind of thread glue I am not familiar with).
I hope the one you receive is as good as the on I received. :)
Another good bit of info that is good to hear as I'm thinking about removing the clip, it looks a bit strangely angled and also in general I'm not really a pocket clip person, I'd rather carry it in the pocket especially now that I have caddies. This way the removal will be no problem.
I think the tool clumping are unavoidable. Since they are just normal washers. Nothing "special" like Gerbers or some leatherman series that are designed for that purpose. I am actually fine with clumping. But what happened in my case was not suppose to happen.. :twak: Sog.I did mention that you'll need to pocket a few bits with the Pint if you need more than a "jeweler's flat driver." :pok:
BTW, anyone notice there isn't a proper flathead screwdriver on board... :facepalm: my cap lifter will turn into one soon..
I think the tool clumping are unavoidable. Since they are just normal washers. Nothing "special" like Gerbers or some leatherman series that are designed for that purpose. I am actually fine with clumping. But what happened in my case was not suppose to happen.. :twak: Sog.I did mention that you'll need to pocket a few bits with the Pint if you need more than a "jeweler's flat driver." :pok:
BTW, anyone notice there isn't a proper flathead screwdriver on board... :facepalm: my cap lifter will turn into one soon..
Do you still have a PowerGrab? I am not getting that feeling...yet.I think the tool clumping are unavoidable. Since they are just normal washers. Nothing "special" like Gerbers or some leatherman series that are designed for that purpose. I am actually fine with clumping. But what happened in my case was not suppose to happen.. :twak: Sog.I did mention that you'll need to pocket a few bits with the Pint if you need more than a "jeweler's flat driver." :pok:
BTW, anyone notice there isn't a proper flathead screwdriver on board... :facepalm: my cap lifter will turn into one soon..
Ya.. I missed that.. :facepalm: This is quite a strange MT after playing with it for a while.. It feels like a shrunk down power grab.. Rather than a new design... Strange...
Do you still have a PowerGrab? I am not getting that feeling...yet.I think the tool clumping are unavoidable. Since they are just normal washers. Nothing "special" like Gerbers or some leatherman series that are designed for that purpose. I am actually fine with clumping. But what happened in my case was not suppose to happen.. :twak: Sog.I did mention that you'll need to pocket a few bits with the Pint if you need more than a "jeweler's flat driver." :pok:
BTW, anyone notice there isn't a proper flathead screwdriver on board... :facepalm: my cap lifter will turn into one soon..
Ya.. I missed that.. :facepalm: This is quite a strange MT after playing with it for a while.. It feels like a shrunk down power grab.. Rather than a new design... Strange...
The PowerGrab seems(to me anyway) more akin to the PowerPlay than anything else. Maybe I am missing something? :think:
Edit:
It does seem like a decent new modding platform. Any ideas for modding the Pint yet, Sam Lim? :like:
For anyone not sure what Sam and I are talking about in regards to the PowerGrab plier head(Grab left and PAD right). :cheers:
Had to try. People might think we're nuts saying the PowerGrab did something excellent. :rofl:
GLBM, you and I know the picture doesn't do it justice. I honestly haven seen anything that wows me that much after the PG.. Now u are making me wanting one again... :ahhh
Regarding the backside of the tool, some are smooth, some rough. Enough to feel the "gear" effect when pulling it back..
Had to try. People might think we're nuts saying the PowerGrab did something excellent. :rofl:
GLBM, you and I know the picture doesn't do it justice. I honestly haven seen anything that wows me that much after the PG.. Now u are making me wanting one again... :ahhh
Regarding the backside of the tool, some are smooth, some rough. Enough to feel the "gear" effect when pulling it back..
Thank you, Sam!
It'll be interesting to see if that issue gets worse on newer Pints as tooling at the factory starts to wear out in the future. :facepalm:
Looking forward to seeing what you come up with. :cheers:
Edit: Just saw your edit, Sam Lim.
That plier head is the main reason I kept mine, so I know what you mean. The Grab plier head is possibly the most beautifully machined plier head ever made. :ahhh
On another note, I am curious to know if the tool tangs on the Pints You and Exeter got are rougher looking than mine. I hope this photo shows it clearly. It feels really smooth, so I didn't give it any thought, but in macro, I can see it.
Does yours look rougher? Does it feel rough to the touch?
Try cutter with your left hand. This is a pair of left handed scissor like I said before earlier.
I, am, serious.
Btw, the design of the scissors are off. The handles are too short to give it any kind of proper leverage.
Try cutter with your left hand. This is a pair of left handed scissor like I said before earlier.
I, am, serious.
Btw, the design of the scissors are off. The handles are too short to give it any kind of proper leverage.
Well, I did just that, but saw no difference, it just chewed on the cardboard, it's too much for it. And let me add that I'm ambidexterous, or mixed handed to be precise, so my left is pretty much the same in strength and dexterity as my right, so that variable can be ruled out. For the sake of the experiment, I tried it with my right hand upside down, with the moving arm facing downwards to my pointer finger, but no difference either.
Maybe you scissors are better made, or your hand/fingers are stronger.
Try cutter with your left hand. This is a pair of left handed scissor like I said before earlier.
I, am, serious.
Btw, the design of the scissors are off. The handles are too short to give it any kind of proper leverage.
Well, I did just that, but saw no difference, it just chewed on the cardboard, it's too much for it. And let me add that I'm ambidexterous, or mixed handed to be precise, so my left is pretty much the same in strength and dexterity as my right, so that variable can be ruled out. For the sake of the experiment, I tried it with my right hand upside down, with the moving arm facing downwards to my pointer finger, but no difference either.
Maybe you scissors are better made, or your hand/fingers are stronger.
Without any disrespect, I am serious. Its not my hands are better or anything like that. It's really a left handed scissors. There are scissors specifically made for left handers. And this is one of them. I am not sure why Sog made this decision. The past scissors designs from the powerlock series are right handed.
Well, the scissors from sog had never been great for the record. So.. I am not too surprise that it didn't make the cut this time round.. Mine is terrible as well.
On mine they look like this. There are machining marks, and can be felt when opening, definitely not buttery smooth, but wouldn't call it rough either.Thank you for the input, Exeter!
Also, future owners be aware that the scissors on the PowerPint, although require quite some force to operate, are only good for threads, a couple of layers of normal printer/newspaper, thin zipties, thin regular cardboard. I tried it on corrugated cardboard and it failed miserably. See on the photo: the abandoned cut was made with the PP, the rest for comparison with the same piece of cardboard.The scissors were not a disappointment on the Pint for me either after all, after using them on a bunch of stuff. Card stock was the thickest material I successfully cut with mine. Corrugated cardboard is tough on little scissors. :ahhh
EDIT: Based on the size of the scissors, maybe a Squirt PS4 would be better for comparison, but I wouldn't dare to have a go at cardboard like this with that, so looking at like that, it's a win for the PP. :)
Try cutter with your left hand. This is a pair of left handed scissor like I said before earlier.Well, seeing as the Pint uses the compound leverage pliersand has a tool locking mechanism, that is likely the best handle to cutting end ratio they could have achieved. The spring is stiff, but could possible be removed and over extended to remove some tension. More work to fix another new SOG issue. Though, I should note, the scissors on mine are acceptable in regards to spring tension. Not butter soft like a LM Juice or 91mm SAK, but not as bad as a lot of scissors I've used on cheaper MTs.
I, am, serious.
Btw, the design of the scissors are off. The handles are too short to give it any kind of proper leverage.
Try cutter with your left hand. This is a pair of left handed scissor like I said before earlier.
I, am, serious.
Btw, the design of the scissors are off. The handles are too short to give it any kind of proper leverage.
Well, I did just that, but saw no difference, it just chewed on the cardboard, it's too much for it. And let me add that I'm ambidexterous, or mixed handed to be precise, so my left is pretty much the same in strength and dexterity as my right, so that variable can be ruled out. For the sake of the experiment, I tried it with my right hand upside down, with the moving arm facing downwards to my pointer finger, but no difference either.
Maybe you scissors are better made, or your hand/fingers are stronger.
Without any disrespect, I am serious. Its not my hands are better or anything like that. It's really a left handed scissors. There are scissors specifically made for left handers. And this is one of them. I am not sure why Sog made this decision. The past scissors designs from the powerlock series are right handed.
Well, the scissors from sog had never been great for the record. So.. I am not too surprise that it didn't make the cut this time round.. Mine is terrible as well.
Well, I didn't think you're pulling my leg. :) And I see what you mean with it being left handed, the arms are arranged opposite as on other scissors, I just meant for me it didn't make any difference when trying it left handed. Take thick blades, short lever arms and a too strong spring and you have your PowerPint scissors. :)
Try cutter with your left hand. This is a pair of left handed scissor like I said before earlier.
I, am, serious.
Btw, the design of the scissors are off. The handles are too short to give it any kind of proper leverage.
Well, I did just that, but saw no difference, it just chewed on the cardboard, it's too much for it. And let me add that I'm ambidexterous, or mixed handed to be precise, so my left is pretty much the same in strength and dexterity as my right, so that variable can be ruled out. For the sake of the experiment, I tried it with my right hand upside down, with the moving arm facing downwards to my pointer finger, but no difference either.
Maybe you scissors are better made, or your hand/fingers are stronger.
Without any disrespect, I am serious. Its not my hands are better or anything like that. It's really a left handed scissors. There are scissors specifically made for left handers. And this is one of them. I am not sure why Sog made this decision. The past scissors designs from the powerlock series are right handed.
Well, the scissors from sog had never been great for the record. So.. I am not too surprise that it didn't make the cut this time round.. Mine is terrible as well.
Well, I didn't think you're pulling my leg. :) And I see what you mean with it being left handed, the arms are arranged opposite as on other scissors, I just meant for me it didn't make any difference when trying it left handed. Take thick blades, short lever arms and a too strong spring and you have your PowerPint scissors. :)
:cheers:
Though I sounded like I have alot of complains for the power pint, I am still liking this tool alot. Well mainly because how small and compact this is! Lets face it. The scissors are smallish and most likely suited for light task which I think they are ok-ish. Let's look beyond the scissors! There's the wonderful awl, nice blades, butter spreading file, etc etc.... :like:
Hm, I just noticed now, that the plier has slightly different typefaces for the SOG logo on the two sides. Interesting. Since this is my first and only SOG product, I can only speculate why this is. Is this something SOG regularly does? Or did the two halves come from a different batch?That is so strange. I'll look at mine wheb I get home. Maybe they had some plier halves cast with a different logo design for early/pre production or something. A mystery that should prove interesting to solve. :)
All sites are back to saying preorder... :facepalm:Possibly the different cast SOG logos on the pliers. :think:
Is there anything on your Pints to designate it as a first production run?
All sites are back to saying preorder... :facepalm:Possibly the different cast SOG logos on the pliers. :think:
Is there anything on your Pints to designate it as a first production run?
There aren't any numbers or anything, so it's hard to tell.
I hope the Pint can dig SOG out of their metaphorical hole. :)
Hey Exeter,+1 :gimme: :gimme:
If the newer ones have good files, then we must immediately request SOG send us just the files to install ourselves. :D
Hey Exeter,
If the newer ones have good files, then we must immediately request SOG send us just the files to install ourselves. :D
I was working on the scissors the whole afternoon and I think I have figured out what's wrong with it. It's simply a case of bad design. The angle of the "V" opening of the 2 blades are totally off. They does not provide any slicing action but rather 2 pieces of metal trying to go past each other at a very steep angle. It's more like chopping than slicing. The short length of the handle makes it even worse. :think: I hope people can understand. The left hand cut post another problem. U try to draw a straight line on a piece of paper and try to cut it. You will get what I mean. In case you are wondering, the dime scissors uses a left handed design. So it doesn't cut well either though mine doesn't have much issues. So imo, there's no way to significantly improve the scissors. Well its a small scissors for small tasks. Not the end of the world, but I would say it's a bad failed design.
The awl is extremely well designed. But it drew blood the second day on using it.... When u have the PE blade out, watch where your middle finger is resting. There's a high chance it may wander into the handle frame, into the awl. I was aware of this danger so I am always very mindful of it. But that day, I was just fidgeting with the MT and my finger still got caught on the awl.. So this tool is having a trip to the grinder. But it's really a awl with the optimal pokey power. All awls should be made in this design..
I was working on the scissors the whole afternoon and I think I have figured out what's wrong with it. It's simply a case of bad design. The angle of the "V" opening of the 2 blades are totally off. They does not provide any slicing action but rather 2 pieces of metal trying to go past each other at a very steep angle. It's more like chopping than slicing. The short length of the handle makes it even worse. :think: I hope people can understand. The left hand cut post another problem. U try to draw a straight line on a piece of paper and try to cut it. You will get what I mean. In case you are wondering, the dime scissors uses a left handed design. So it doesn't cut well either though mine doesn't have much issues. So imo, there's no way to significantly improve the scissors. Well its a small scissors for small tasks. Not the end of the world, but I would say it's a bad failed design.
The awl is extremely well designed. But it drew blood the second day on using it.... When u have the PE blade out, watch where your middle finger is resting. There's a high chance it may wander into the handle frame, into the awl. I was aware of this danger so I am always very mindful of it. But that day, I was just fidgeting with the MT and my finger still got caught on the awl.. So this tool is having a trip to the grinder. But it's really a awl with the optimal pokey power. All awls should be made in this design..
Sam, how/what are you planning to modify the awl exactly? So far I managed to avoid being stabbed or cut by it, but got close to it myself, so I'd be interested to hear your (planned) solution. Are you thinking of deepening that little notch at the bottom for it to lie a bit deeper when closed?
Well.. :facepalm: I just snapped my spring for the scissors.. I swear I was using it normally.. Can't say I am surprised.. So this marks the end for my ranting of the scissors.. :whistle:Not again :rant:
Well.. :facepalm: I just snapped my spring for the scissors.. I swear I was using it normally.. Can't say I am surprised.. So this marks the end for my ranting of the scissors.. :whistle:Not again :rant:
This is happening a couple of times now :ahhh :ahhh
It happened to a member on here with the PAD
Were the spring broke for the lock mechanism ??? >:(
Sorry for not explaining it properly
And my bad spelling :rofl:
The springs I mean are on the handle
Better way here is a pic :tu: :cheers:
But, SOG, the springs need to hold up more than a week. :facepalm:
SOG and Gerber seem to have a hard time figuring out how to temper scissors springs. I wish they would do back to the old spring ribbon/wire concept. :facepalm:
Considering that the file is nothing to write home about, I thought it would be useful to shape the end as a scrapper. (Is that what it is? English isn't my first language...) You can see before and after the Dremel treatment.(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180807/66ab8bd6be33c55fdfb3f4506a8f0902.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180807/0deba146ca3aceb09084592953d86c63.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180807/9270657231a1d29c35e631c436acf37f.jpg)
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And I almost forgot: I mentioned I didn't really like the stowash finish, so I polished the middle "panel" on the handles. It came out pretty nice, at least for my eyes. It's not easy to show on camera, but irl it looks quite stylish like this.This is really beautiful! How did you do it? Sandpaper? What kind of grit?
And I almost forgot: I mentioned I didn't really like the stowash finish, so I polished the middle "panel" on the handles. It came out pretty nice, at least for my eyes. It's not easy to show on camera, but irl it looks quite stylish like this.This is really beautiful! How did you do it? Sandpaper? What kind of grit?
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Welcome to the forum roamingcat and enjoy your time here!
I'm not sure about the modding possibilities in that sense, but I'd be curious to see what others might come up with.
And yeah, the scissors are just plain bad, I had the springbar just snap on me last week while cutting paper! I wrote to SOG asking about warranty, and if they could send me a replacement spring part, but they informed me that I'd have to send the whole tool in for repair. Financially it just wouldn't make sense for me, shipping would be 70% of the original price I paid for it, so now I'm stuck with non-functional scissors. ...any modders, handy MTO-ers wanting to try their hand at making a replacement spring? ;)
Welcome to the forum roamingcat and enjoy your time here!
I'm not sure about the modding possibilities in that sense, but I'd be curious to see what others might come up with.
And yeah, the scissors are just plain bad, I had the springbar just snap on me last week while cutting paper! I wrote to SOG asking about warranty, and if they could send me a replacement spring part, but they informed me that I'd have to send the whole tool in for repair. Financially it just wouldn't make sense for me, shipping would be 70% of the original price I paid for it, so now I'm stuck with non-functional scissors. ...any modders, handy MTO-ers wanting to try their hand at making a replacement spring? ;)
Welcome to the forum roamingcat and enjoy your time here!
I'm not sure about the modding possibilities in that sense, but I'd be curious to see what others might come up with.
And yeah, the scissors are just plain bad, I had the springbar just snap on me last week while cutting paper! I wrote to SOG asking about warranty, and if they could send me a replacement spring part, but they informed me that I'd have to send the whole tool in for repair. Financially it just wouldn't make sense for me, shipping would be 70% of the original price I paid for it, so now I'm stuck with non-functional scissors. ...any modders, handy MTO-ers wanting to try their hand at making a replacement spring? ;)
Thank you Exeter for your kind words. Sorry to hear about your scissors :(. Seems like it is a fairly common problem and hopefully our community here can collectively work out a solution.
I am interested to hear more about Sam's solution, i.e. replacing it with a Wave scissors. Sam, if it is not too much trouble can you post some pics and tell us a little bit more how you did it? I have a Leatherman Fuse which I don't use often and I am happy to 'transplant' the scissors to the PowerPint if I could. I really like to get the PowerPint as its design & configuration fits my requirements perfectly. Thanks so much.
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Hi! The pic of the wave scissors are just a few post up. Works but not the best solution.. Yesterday night after reading this post, I have again made some, I would say proper improvement. Let me get back home later to post up my solutions. :cheers:
Got my hand on a PowerPint in a lot deal. I have not used it yet, just played with it. My first impression is, this tool has a lot of potential, and can be a homerun for SOG. Immediately, the LM Juice series came to my mind as its competitor. Improvements can be done to this little gem IMO:
- Move the pocket clip to the pliers's pivot end
- Redesign the handles' cutouts for true one-hand opening
- The implements are quite crude. They need to be more polished
- Fix the file profile and the scissors' tension
I like the fact that I can adjust the tightness at the pivots. And there is no painted aluminum scale to worry about.
Thanks for clarifying and reassuring the steel material used. I wonder if anyone has figured out how to replace the springs for the scissors as it has been reported it has broken by a few posters before? I really want to use the scissors more than just cutting off excess garment threads. :dunno::cheers:
:cheers:
As you know, Sam Lim has swapped in a pair of cheapie scissors, but that is a good question. I have not seen any posts about changing the scissor spring. I may be taking one of my Pints apart at some point and will try and remember to look at spring alternatives. :)
I just turn the medium I am cutting at an angle to see what I'm doing. Whether it be left-hand scissors used with my right hand or right-hand scissors used with my left hand(doesn't matter to me). The scissors don't have to be perpendicular to your line of sight. :pok: :D
I had to borrow this from ThePeacent
I was born wrong. :rofl:
your line of sight. :pok: :D
U can't even see where u are cutting.
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gerleatherberman,
This is amazing :like:, and thank you for sharing your excellent ideas and improvements it make to the PP (in particular the scissors)! Also, those excellent and clear photos certainly help me a lot to go ahead with mine.
With these mods in place, imo the PP is well placed to become the best single EDC available today (at least for me), As I said b4, the PP has all the great design features I always wanted for an EDC. If we can collectively improve upon the few shortcomings in its execution by way of mods then we are all set !
Show contentroamingcat,
Good job and thank you for inspiring me to do some work on my Pint.
Made two different size flat drivers with the can opener and bottle opener. Used a fine wheel stone to get the sharp hollow-grind to make them bite. Did a similar mod to the awl that roamingcat did, where I lower the tip angle to avoid it catching my pocket/hand. Then used a hand diamond-file to file the back of the scissor spring where the spring tang touches the frame when engaged. Ground the semi-circle spring tip down to lessen the distance needed to squeeze. All in all the scissors are notably more functional(being easier to squeeze) and will be less likely to break(the spring doesn't exert as much force).
Used a sharpie to show how far I wanted to go.
(https://i.imgur.com/YBXR1KO.jpg)
After the grinding work on openers and awl.
(https://i.imgur.com/u8EBQ17.jpg)
Four good drivers now. :)
(https://i.imgur.com/0DESqos.jpg)
See how I moved the leaf spring out and up to work on it.
This is when I used the diamond-file to gently remove some tang-stop material.
(https://i.imgur.com/4qcaCRz.jpg)
Photo showing the new spring profile and position.
(https://i.imgur.com/DEq1ZDB.jpg)
Great work. :like:Thank you, RP! :cheers:
Why did the openers not come like that! :rant:
My mods so far (from left to right):-
1. Bottle opener "nipple" converted to "large" flat head screwdriver/pryer
2. Can opener "nipple" converted to "medium" flat head screw driver
3. Hook cutter back sharpened for use as a scraper
4. Back of awl filed down to minimize risk of cutting my finger when using main blade
5. Filer tip converted to scraper
I want to thank all the posters in this thread for sharing their ideas. Very tempted to do the scissors mod too but want to practice more on my dremel skills first!
Very interested to see what mods other posters have done so far to their Pints too!
(Together, lets make it a Perfect Pint :cheers:)
Sam,
Can you tighten the pliers mount screws anymore than they are(I know some SOG models have pins that are bottomed out)? That is how I got mine to stop opening in my pocket. :dunno:
But I like to flik the pliers open and bash my knuckles a little.. :D:rofl:
That's alot of improvements from the original design RC! :like: I would really like to incorporate some kind of swing lock for the handles.. The pocket clip is on the wrong end and the handles keeps opening up in my pocket..
I would really like to incorporate some kind of swing lock for the handles..
Something like the Kershaw A100's would work, maybe on the other side of where the Pint's pocket-clip is.
put a latch on one screw, and have a narrow washer to lift the screw's head, so the latch can hook it.
This sounds like a good idea ReamerPunch! All we need is to source a suitable latch that will fit, if not it has to be custom-made?I think it would be easy to fabricate from some mild hardness thinner gauge steel. Using a dremel and assorted cutting wheels and bits. And a lot of patience. :ahhh
Gosh, I wish SOG is listening !
I think it would be easy to fabricate from some mild hardness thinner gauge steel. Using a dremel and assorted cutting wheels and bits. And a lot of patience. :ahhh
Thanks for the tip! Has anyone disassembled the torx screws, took out the implements and put it all back together in their Pint yet? How easy/difficult is it to put the tension springs back together?Anytime! Should be a fun project. :cheers:
Anytime! Should be a fun project. :cheers:
It is one of the easier tools to break down and put back together(relatively of course). The only issue I would mark as somewhat serious is the thin washers. Make sure they do back between the correct implements. The newer versions have better quality washers, but if you have an early Pint, they will be thin and flimsy. Just something to watch for. :)
Anytime! Should be a fun project. :cheers:
It is one of the easier tools to break down and put back together(relatively of course). The only issue I would mark as somewhat serious is the thin washers. Make sure they do back between the correct implements. The newer versions have better quality washers, but if you have an early Pint, they will be thin and flimsy. Just something to watch for. :)
Cool hack, roamingcat! :like:
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A couple of questions though, if you don't mind?! Do you ever lose the clips? And how long does a nice one take to make?
Sure, not at all. I haven't lost a clip yet, but it is mainly because I only had it for less than 24 hours and I haven't been carrying it around too much :cheers: I agree with you it may be prone to loosing since there is no permanent attachment to the Pint. fyi I made the first u-clip in about a minute, and if I ever loose it I can re-make a replacement in less than a minute since I am already familiar with the overall shape. All that is required is a paper clip, 2 cuts + 2 bends (with one finger and one set of pliers) btw - I have further 'refined' the u-clip in the attached photo. It has worked well for me so far (within the last 24 hous or so).Excellent. Thank you, RC! :cheers:
I want to love this tool so badly... perfect size, good tool selection (short of flat head drivers)... but the small flathead that is onboard bends at will and is seemingly made of pot metal... the scissors leave a lot to be desired as well... I am in love with the design, just wish it was executed better!I have not experienced any driver bending yet, but will watch for it. Thanks for the input, Nittles! :cheers:
The last SOG MT I bought, and I don't even remember the name [it was the PowerAccess], was so poorly made that I dropped out of an MTO Challenge and returned the thing to Amazon. The "file" was as smooth as a baby's rump, and the whole thing was just flimsy and cheap.Indeed. I did have fun smearing mayonnaise on bread with the file though. :rofl:
The last SOG MT I bought, and I don't even remember the name [it was the PowerAccess], was so poorly made that I dropped out of an MTO Challenge and returned the thing to Amazon. The "file" was as smooth as a baby's rump, and the whole thing was just flimsy and cheap.
The last SOG MT I bought, and I don't even remember the name [it was the PowerAccess], was so poorly made that I dropped out of an MTO Challenge and returned the thing to Amazon. The "file" was as smooth as a baby's rump, and the whole thing was just flimsy and cheap.
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Very very cool, RC! :like:
What kind of magnet did you use for the mod?
Wonderful solution, Sam! :salute:
Looks like how SOG should have done it at the factory. I like it better than the PowerLitre latch, and I like the PowerLitre latch. :like:
It is somewhere in the photos I took for this thread.
https://forum.multitool.org/index.php/topic,78899.msg1777635.html#msg1777635
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Great work as always, Sam! :like:
Just saw that! :salute: thanks! Is that plastic?All metal. But, what kind of metal? I am not sure. :think:
All metal. But, what kind of metal? I am not sure. :think:
Feels sturdy though. :)
Great work Sam, and thank you for sharing ! :like: Can you tell us a little bit more how you converted from the clip to the latch? Did you have to cut out/ fabricate the metal clip to the shape of the latch, and if so, how did you do it? Or if I misunderstood it completely for which I apologize !
Thank you Sam :like:
I think this forum should send SOG a bill for "Professional Advice for Product Improvement for the Pint" !
If SOG can release a Pint version 2 with all the improvements as noted above I think it would become a killer EDC. I am happy to purchase it again, even if they have to charge a little bit more.
Thanks for the pic, Sam.
I hope SOG has been following this thread. :cheers:
I've put together a mini bit kit to extend the capability of our nimble Pint.Very nice setup, roamingcat! :like:
Thank you GLBM ! I am working on your scissors mod for the Pint, hopefully I'll get there soon :drink:Looking forward to see what you come up with, RC! I keep hoping SOG will make another version of the Pint, but with the Litre's swing latch, nice scissors, and driver-tips(like the ones we did) on the openers. But, that said, not gonna hold my breath on that one. :ahhh
Looking forward to see what you come up with, RC! I keep hoping SOG will make another version of the Pint, but with the Litre's swing latch, nice scissors, and driver-tips(like the ones we did) on the openers. But, that said, not gonna hold my breath on that one. :ahhh
:iagree: I very much look forward to PP version 2. I think it would be a killer edc, at least it would be for me. I finally went ahead with the scissors mod. I was only able to hand file down the tang a little bit, so not quite as good as yours. But I can see it does ease the spring tension a bit so hopefully it gives it more longevity. Thanks again for the idea. :salute:Very nice. And you're certainly welcome.
I have one. I like it, however I would make the point that it is not a full sized tool. It's not as robust as a full sized tool, but it's much better than, for example, a PS4. The blades are very impressive, and as someone who wears glasses the jewlers screwdriver has proven an absolute Godsend.Nice setup of tools there for sure! :like:
Personally I find it a very useful accompliment to my SAK Huntsman.
Huntsman,
Powerpint,
BIC lighter x 2.
AAA LED Maglite.
That's me good to go.
I've put together a mini bit kit to extend the capability of our nimble Pint.
And I must say, I'm surprised by the quality of this one. I expected tools rubbing against the plier head, locks that needed a bit of adjusting, a PE blade that needed sharpening...How are the scissors on it?
But turns out SOG has it all covered on this one, only thing I might mod is the spring on the scissors, just like GLBM did on his PowerPint.
I actually like this little tool 😁.