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Title: PowerPint Overview Mighty Little MT
Post by: gerleatherberman on May 07, 2018, 06:54:49 PM
This is just a first impression overview of my newly received SOG PowerPint.

It arrived in a basic clamshell package. The back outlined what each tool was for. It answered the questions about if the can opener and bottle opener were supposed to be screwdrivers. They clearly are not. The tool list shows there are only 2 screwdrivers; a #1 phillips and a small flat head called a "jewelery driver". I guess this is fine, because of the 1/4" bit holder. I placed a bit into the holder and it feels more secure than say the PowerPlay bit holder did. Then I noticed the magnet protrudes somewhat and that is why it feels more secure. I squeezed very tight and the magnet didn't budge. Only time and use will tell if that is intentional or not. You'll have to carry a bit or two in your pocket for bigger screws.
Onto the tools. There seems like a lot packed in this this mightly little pocket SOG.
The scissors are a notable departure from typical SOG scissors. The spring for the scissors disengage when you depress the lock. Not the most solid feeling scissors in the world, but we'll see if they hold up in time. They do cut thin card stock and toilet paper out of the box. So, that is good.
Can and bottle openers looks well formed and the can opener is mildly sharpened on the puncture side.
The #1 phillips is well formed and would possibly work on #2 phillips that weren't too tightly screwed in.
The hook cutter is a cheaper smaller type of SOG V-Cutter. And the one on this Pint is sharp. Good for paracord? Not sure it is necessary since the Pint has two blade.
Both the plain and serrated blades are very sharp and well formed. The serrated blade had some light burring on the edge. One stroke on my honing stone took care of that.
The awl is wiked sharp and looks like it would make a nice hole in whatever you need to put a hole in.
Last tool is the "file". In keeping with SOG's tradition, this file is only useful for fingernails. About the same cut quality as the Access series. No surprise there.
The plier jaws are well formed and nicely cut with no play. Cutter portion works well too.

The tool locks can only be reliably depressed by opening the handles part way and pressing the back of the handle. The lock bars are the black portion of the handle.

Overall initial feeling:
This overview only covers the PowerPint I received. We'll need more imput, comments  and usage before a review can be written.

I like it so far. It is a lot of function in a mighty little tool. Only time will tell how reliable and useful it is.
Pics to follow.
Title: Re: PowerPint Overview Mighty Little MT
Post by: gerleatherberman on May 07, 2018, 06:55:44 PM
Pics
Title: Re: PowerPint Overview Mighty Little MT
Post by: DeezNittles on May 07, 2018, 06:59:51 PM
Do you have any of the Juice series MTs for a comparison pic?

Seriously considering purchasing the PowerPint but concerned that it might not knock the Juice out of my pocket.
Title: Re: PowerPint Overview Mighty Little MT
Post by: Exeter on May 07, 2018, 07:03:00 PM
Do you have any of the Juice series MTs for a comparison pic?

Seriously considering purchasing the PowerPint but concerned that it might not knock the Juice out of my pocket.

Great overview and nice pics. :tu: I second the Juice comparison request!
Title: Re: PowerPint Overview Mighty Little MT
Post by: gerleatherberman on May 07, 2018, 07:06:05 PM
Juice comparison to come. Here it is with the Access and Access Deluxe. And some quick comparisons with the LM MiniTool, and Gerber MultiPlier.
Title: Re: PowerPint Overview Mighty Little MT
Post by: gerleatherberman on May 07, 2018, 07:15:23 PM
I only have one Juice. An XE6, but it should work for general comparison. Pics with pliers, onboard drivers, pe/se blades, scissors, file and closed. :tu:
Title: Re: PowerPint Overview Mighty Little MT
Post by: gerleatherberman on May 07, 2018, 07:19:26 PM
I'm going to go out on a limb and say that if the Juice isn't too big for your pocket, then keep the Juice. If you want something lighter, more compact, and has a pocket clip. Then the Pint MIGHT be for you. The Juice does feel better constructed though. The Pint has a big "cool factor" though. :)
Title: Re: PowerPint Overview Mighty Little MT
Post by: DeezNittles on May 07, 2018, 07:27:56 PM
I'm going to go out on a limb and say that if the Juice isn't too big for your pocket, then keep the Juice. If you want something lighter, more compact, and has a pocket clip. Then the Pint MIGHT be for you. The Juice does feel better constructed though. The Pint has a big "cool factor" though. :)

Much Obliged!  :cheers:
Title: Re: PowerPint Overview Mighty Little MT
Post by: gerleatherberman on May 07, 2018, 07:35:25 PM
I'm going to go out on a limb and say that if the Juice isn't too big for your pocket, then keep the Juice. If you want something lighter, more compact, and has a pocket clip. Then the Pint MIGHT be for you. The Juice does feel better constructed though. The Pint has a big "cool factor" though. :)

Much Obliged!  :cheers:
:tu:

Anyone else have a side-by-side request with a different MT, please let me know. :multi:
Title: Re: PowerPint Overview Mighty Little MT
Post by: DeezNittles on May 07, 2018, 07:41:52 PM
Totally nit-picking but I can't seem to find an actual closed length measurement anywhere, nor can I find a width measurement.

Do your have a scale to measure weight to see if the quoted 4.2 oz. is accurate?

Also, is there anything on the tool to indicate that it is a first production run?

Sorry to have some many questions... info on this tool is scarce!
Title: Re: PowerPint Overview Mighty Little MT
Post by: DeezNittles on May 07, 2018, 07:46:35 PM
Ah... I see now on the packaging that it states a closed length of 3.2 inches which would make it only 0.05 inches shorter than a Juice.  However, in pics it looks relatively more shorter than the Xe6.  Interesting.
Title: Re: PowerPint Overview Mighty Little MT
Post by: ReamerPunch on May 07, 2018, 08:42:57 PM
Thanks for sharing!  :like:
I think I like it. Not sure. Hopefully the price will go down instead of up, and I won't regret having waited.

Looking forward to the reviews on this.
Title: Re: PowerPint Overview Mighty Little MT
Post by: gerleatherberman on May 07, 2018, 09:06:59 PM
Totally nit-picking but I can't seem to find an actual closed length measurement anywhere, nor can I find a width measurement.

Do your have a scale to measure weight to see if the quoted 4.2 oz. is accurate?

Also, is there anything on the tool to indicate that it is a first production run?

Sorry to have some many questions... info on this tool is scarce!

Ah... I see now on the packaging that it states a closed length of 3.2 inches which would make it only 0.05 inches shorter than a Juice.  However, in pics it looks relatively more shorter than the Xe6.  Interesting.
No problem. I don't mind answering questions at all. It is pretty expensive for what it is. If I weren't an MT collector, I would have been hesitant as well buying it. :tu:

The weight and measurement is correct. I don't quite know how to explain this, but the PowerPint feels "small", but in a good way. It has the same 'technical' dimensions of an XE6, but in no way feels as big. The XE6 is huge for a Juice though. I don't normally collect smaller MTs, so I don't have a normal size Juice ti compare it to. :ahhh
The weight must be the biggest factor. It ia really light in hand (feel) and the pocket clip makes is disappear almost in my front right pocket. I do want to note that left front pocket carry may see the tool folding open, since the clip is on the tool end of the handle (unlike the plier end on the access).

I took some more pictures that may shed some light on what I mean by feeling smaller. The compound leverage system takes up a lot of "tool length room" in the PowerPint, so the toola are smaller than the Juices by quite a bit. But, with the compound leverage,  you can theoretically get a stronger grip with the pliers on the Pint. The plier end of the Pint is not bulky like thw Juice, so that means you can get a better grip on flush objects and do more detailed oriented plier tasks. :tu:
Title: Re: PowerPint Overview Mighty Little MT
Post by: gerleatherberman on May 07, 2018, 09:14:01 PM

Great overview and nice pics. :tu: I second the Juice comparison request!
Thank you for the kind words, Exeter! :cheers:

Thanks for sharing!  :like:
I think I like it. Not sure. Hopefully the price will go down instead of up, and I won't regret having waited.

Looking forward to the reviews on this.
You're welcome,  RP!  :cheers:
I have been using it for a few hours so far and I actually like the toolset on it. Except the file(won't file anything down except my fingernails and that takes a lot of pressure to do). The scissors are surprisingly good on my Pint. Still haven't decided on which 1/4 hex bits to throw in a pill caddy in my pocket for the Pint though. :ahhh
Title: Re: PowerPint Overview Mighty Little MT
Post by: Exeter on May 07, 2018, 09:22:42 PM
Totally nit-picking but I can't seem to find an actual closed length measurement anywhere, nor can I find a width measurement.

Do your have a scale to measure weight to see if the quoted 4.2 oz. is accurate?

Also, is there anything on the tool to indicate that it is a first production run?

Sorry to have some many questions... info on this tool is scarce!

Ah... I see now on the packaging that it states a closed length of 3.2 inches which would make it only 0.05 inches shorter than a Juice.  However, in pics it looks relatively more shorter than the Xe6.  Interesting.
No problem. I don't mind answering questions at all. It is pretty expensive for what it is. If I weren't an MT collector, I would have been hesitant as well buying it. :tu:

The weight and measurement is correct. I don't quite know how to explain this, but the PowerPint feels "small", but in a good way. It has the same 'technical' dimensions of an XE6, but in no way feels as big. The XE6 is huge for a Juice though. I don't normally collect smaller MTs, so I don't have a normal size Juice ti compare it to. :ahhh
The weight must be the biggest factor. It ia really light in hand (feel) and the pocket clip makes is disappear almost in my front right pocket. I do want to note that left front pocket carry may see the tool folding open, since the clip is on the tool end of the handle (unlike the plier end on the access).

I took some more pictures that may shed some light on what I mean by feeling smaller. The compound leverage system takes up a lot of "tool length room" in the PowerPint, so the toola are smaller than the Juices by quite a bit. But, with the compound leverage,  you can theoretically get a stronger grip with the pliers on the Pint. The plier end of the Pint is not bulky like thw Juice, so that means you can get a better grip on flush objects and do more detailed oriented plier tasks. :tu:

As I have an XE6 too, this was a perfect comparison, thanks!  :salute:

My PowerPint was shipped today, so I'm pretty excited, although it's still a week at best, maybe much more if they pull it for customs procedure. Anyway, looks really good and pretty much what I imagined.
Title: Re: PowerPint Overview Mighty Little MT
Post by: gerleatherberman on May 07, 2018, 09:41:20 PM

As I have an XE6 too, this was a perfect comparison, thanks!  :salute:

My PowerPint was shipped today, so I'm pretty excited, although it's still a week at best, maybe much more if they pull it for customs procedure. Anyway, looks really good and pretty much what I imagined.
You're quite welcome, Exeter! :cheers:
Fingers crossed that your PowerPint is as good as the one I received!
I do not feel like I wasted my money on the Pint. Hopefully that won't change.

Being a collector, I feel like I wasted money on MTs on a weekly basis. So the Pint was a pleasant surprise.  :woohoo:
Title: Re: PowerPint Overview Mighty Little MT
Post by: Wspeed on May 07, 2018, 10:37:28 PM
Excellent write up and pics GLBM  :like: :like: :tu:
Title: Re: PowerPint Overview Mighty Little MT
Post by: gerleatherberman on May 07, 2018, 10:54:23 PM
Excellent write up and pics GLBM  :like: :like: :tu:

Thank you very much, Wspeed! :cheers:
Title: Re: PowerPint Overview Mighty Little MT
Post by: gerleatherberman on May 07, 2018, 11:40:08 PM
Some more photos starring the PowerPint, PowerAccess, and PowerAccess Deluxe.
Title: Re: PowerPint Overview Mighty Little MT
Post by: DeezNittles on May 07, 2018, 11:50:06 PM
 :drool:  was about to order one last night when knifecenter had free shipping, but wanted to wait to see impressions.

Now kicking myself as Knife Center doesn’t have free shipping anymore!  Not going to pay an additional $8.

Looks like I’m playing the waiting game.   :facepalm:
Title: Re: PowerPint Overview Mighty Little MT
Post by: Wspeed on May 08, 2018, 12:03:12 AM
What is the file like GLBM   :think: :tu:
Title: Re: PowerPint Overview Mighty Little MT
Post by: gerleatherberman on May 08, 2018, 12:03:59 AM
:drool:  was about to order one last night when knifecenter had free shipping, but wanted to wait to see impressions.

Now kicking myself as Knife  Center doesn’t have free shipping anymore!  Not going to pay an additional $8.

Looks like I’m playing the waiting game.   :facepalm:

Hopefully they will put it back to free shipping soon!
Title: Re: PowerPint Overview Mighty Little MT
Post by: gerleatherberman on May 08, 2018, 12:06:38 AM
What is the file like GLBM   :think: :tu:
No worries, SOG didn't fix the crappy file problem on the Pint. Still only good for fingernails like every SOG file since the PowerPlay.  :facepalm:
Title: Re: PowerPint Overview Mighty Little MT
Post by: Wspeed on May 08, 2018, 12:19:53 AM
That’s a shame  :ahhh :tu:
Title: Re: PowerPint Overview Mighty Little MT
Post by: Sam Lim on May 08, 2018, 08:58:23 AM
I have one on the way from KC as well but probably another 2 to 3 weeks wait before its reaches me on the other side of the globe. I am liking the size so far. Thanks for the pics and the overview GLBM!  :like:
Title: Re: PowerPint Overview Mighty Little MT
Post by: ThePeacent on May 08, 2018, 02:10:34 PM
Thanks for the excellent writeup and overview, and the pic comparison is very useful.  :cheers: man is this tool small!   :ahhh

And with the clip it sure feels like a feather in your pocket. I like the finer pliers and C. Leverage, which allow for precise but super powerful gripping action and pulling, something hard to achieve with smaller MTs.

The awl is a new style that I'm not used to but the older awls in the PL,  PP and other old SOGs are my favorite style of awls in all MTs, not including Alox SAKs. This one doesn't seem as good.

The mini screwdriver is much welcome in the 21st century, given the amount of mini screws everywhere.  :tu: The bit driver should provide excellent reach capabilities if you carry an extender with your bits, multiplying the versatility of this tool. Also much better to apply force and pressure to a driver that is centered between the tool's handles  :salute:

very good so far, if not for the high price this ought to be a best seller and game changer for SOG! Hopefully a better QC and tools like this will make it a champion and serious contender in the multitool world  :)
Title: Re: PowerPint Overview Mighty Little MT
Post by: gerleatherberman on May 08, 2018, 03:13:39 PM
I have one on the way from KC as well but probably another 2 to 3 weeks wait before its reaches me on the other side of the globe. I am liking the size so far. Thanks for the pics and the overview GLBM!  :like:
You're quite welcome, Sam Lim! :cheers:
It also seems like a tool with mod potential. I removed a pivot pin to stretch the clip out a bit for my thicker jean pocket and the screw and threads looked good. They are fine threads, but screw in deep. The torx head pin didn't act like it was going to strip out when breaking the loctite(some kind of thread glue I am not familiar with).
I hope the one you receive is as good as the on I received. :)
Title: Re: PowerPint Overview Mighty Little MT
Post by: Exeter on May 08, 2018, 03:22:29 PM
I have one on the way from KC as well but probably another 2 to 3 weeks wait before its reaches me on the other side of the globe. I am liking the size so far. Thanks for the pics and the overview GLBM!  :like:
You're quite welcome, Sam Lim! :cheers:
It also seems like a tool with mod potential. I removed a pivot pin to stretch the clip out a bit for my thicker jean pocket and the screw and threads looked good. They are fine threads, but screw in deep. The torx head pin didn't act like it was going to strip out when breaking the loctite(some kind of thread glue I am not familiar with).
I hope the one you receive is as good as the on I received. :)

Another good bit of info that is good to hear as I'm thinking about removing the clip, it looks a bit strangely angled and also in general I'm not really a pocket clip person, I'd rather carry it in the pocket especially now that I have caddies. This way the removal will be no problem.
Title: Re: PowerPint Overview Mighty Little MT
Post by: gerleatherberman on May 08, 2018, 03:23:16 PM
Thanks for the excellent writeup and overview, and the pic comparison is very useful.  :cheers: man is this tool small!   :ahhh

And with the clip it sure feels like a feather in your pocket. I like the finer pliers and C. Leverage, which allow for precise but super powerful gripping action and pulling, something hard to achieve with smaller MTs.

The awl is a new style that I'm not used to but the older awls in the PL,  PP and other old SOGs are my favorite style of awls in all MTs, not including Alox SAKs. This one doesn't seem as good.

The mini screwdriver is much welcome in the 21st century, given the amount of mini screws everywhere.  :tu: The bit driver should provide excellent reach capabilities if you carry an extender with your bits, multiplying the versatility of this tool. Also much better to apply force and pressure to a driver that is centered between the tool's handles  :salute:

very good so far, if not for the high price this ought to be a best seller and game changer for SOG! Hopefully a better QC and tools like this will make it a champion and serious contender in the multitool world  :)
You're welcome, TP! :cheers:

I think the awl is a fair compromise with its' smaller shape and grind, but I haven't tried it yet. Maybe today I can give it a try.
Indded, the on-board mini drivers are a good call on SOG's part. And the bit gripper seens to hold the bit well. Just hoping the magnet thing doesn't turn out to be a source of failure. I have been trying it on different screws and the has so far been acceptable.

If the other Pints they ship out are as well assembled as mine, they will have a nice tool that is a notable detour in the MT world. This and the PowerAccess Deluxe are probably the best tools SOG has released in a long time. Hope they don't screw this up. :multi:
Title: Re: PowerPint Overview Mighty Little MT
Post by: gerleatherberman on May 08, 2018, 03:26:54 PM
I have one on the way from KC as well but probably another 2 to 3 weeks wait before its reaches me on the other side of the globe. I am liking the size so far. Thanks for the pics and the overview GLBM!  :like:
You're quite welcome, Sam Lim! :cheers:
It also seems like a tool with mod potential. I removed a pivot pin to stretch the clip out a bit for my thicker jean pocket and the screw and threads looked good. They are fine threads, but screw in deep. The torx head pin didn't act like it was going to strip out when breaking the loctite(some kind of thread glue I am not familiar with).
I hope the one you receive is as good as the on I received. :)

Another good bit of info that is good to hear as I'm thinking about removing the clip, it looks a bit strangely angled and also in general I'm not really a pocket clip person, I'd rather carry it in the pocket especially now that I have caddies. This way the removal will be no problem.
One thing to note is that the pin extends into the clip's mounting hole, so you'll need a washer to take up the space the clip did on the pivot pin. The washer will ens up on the outside of the frame, which isn't a big deal. You could grind the pin down, but a washer gives you the option to put the clip back on. :cheers:
Title: Re: PowerPint Overview Mighty Little MT
Post by: Exeter on May 15, 2018, 05:04:15 PM
Mine arrived today, later I'll put some photos of mine of the tool for those interested. Here's a teaser for now.  :rofl:

Title: Re: PowerPint Overview Mighty Little MT
Post by: Wspeed on May 15, 2018, 05:05:54 PM
Looking good Exeter  :cheers:
Still can’t believe how small the pint is  :like: :like: :tu:
Title: Re: PowerPint Overview Mighty Little MT
Post by: Sam Lim on May 15, 2018, 05:30:59 PM
I received mine today!! It came much faster than expected. And the package was really, small.

Out of package, I have to say I am not too pleased with what I have received.Having fortunately/unfortunately handle all the past 2017 models, to be honest, this was expected. I am sorry GLBM and SOG fans..

These are the problems I have...

1) The pliers I have received are misaligned at the tip. I really hate this when it new out of package. I have never had this problems with any of my SOGs before. So this time I am really disappointed.

2) I had very bad tool clumping on one side of the handle. When I pull out the serrated blade, everything else comes out with it. Took a closer look and realise the pivot is stuck with the blade and is moving along. I actually took apart that side of the handle immediately. I was right. The pivot hole of the blade is stuck with the pivot. Its pivot hole is somehow smaller than the rest of the implements. So whoever put this together simply does not care and probably hammered the pivot in. I had to do some filing to sort this out.

3) My serrated blade is slightly warped. Scissors crosses over too much, giving so much resistant that its almost unusable.

4) The back end of the tools that rubs against the locks are very rough. Making it very gritty when opening the tools.

5) Washers between the tools are very poor quality and mostly deformed but probably because they are so thin.

6) Some parts on the handle frame are finger slicing sharp..


There are the rants I have using eyeball and hand-ons inspection. More observations to come when I start using them.

Returning is not an option as I am on the other side of the world and paying for shipping simply does not make sense...

Having said all of the above, most problems are user correctable other than the the pliers misalignment...... I am still liking this tool at the moment and looking forward to using it!

Oh btw, Lynn, if you are reading this, this is a left hand scissors.....  ;)


Title: Re: PowerPint Overview Mighty Little MT
Post by: Exeter on May 15, 2018, 09:05:40 PM
I promised some photos, but they turned out pretty bad because of the lighting, they are too yellowish and dark or overexposed and lacking details, so I'll try to make some better ones tomorrow in natural lighting. I included some anyway.

My observations after playing with it for half a day now: there is some tool clumping, but on mine definitely not to the extent as in Sam Lim's case, and I suspect this is by design, as the inner tools come up a bit with the longer tool on the side, but only the ones on that particular side, my guess is to make the opening easier, as they're pretty hard to reach even with my smaller fingers. As for the gritty opening: the bottoms have machining marks, lines, yes, but I see nothing out of the ordinary on mine, I've seen similar marks on my Rebar and Juice too, and these will definitely smooth out with time and use.

My blades are perfectly okay, nothing to note there, but I agree about the scissors, it needs significant amount of force to operate, but hopefull it will break in. I particularly like that you can pop off the top arm from the springbar, probably for easier maintetnance, sharpening. The plier tips don't align perfectly, but for me that 0.1 mm makes no difference, insignificant and I expected something like that.

I'm not too fond of the pocket clip, I took that off, and for me the stonewash finish makes the tool look a bit cheaper than it is, but the surface will definitley age and get a bit more uniform and polished. My biggest gripe is the "file", even though I was prepared for it being bad, it's even worse than I expected. It's laughably bad, unusable. The crosscut side reluctantly filed fingernail, but that's all. It's just a metal bar, a complete waste of tool space. I wish someone would make an aftermarket file for the PowerPint! :D

The awl is scary sharp and pointy, the drivers are okay, the bit holder works as intended, but the protractor is just a gimmick, I have close to so called 20/20 vision and even in daylight I couldn't make out the markings, even with the Swisschamp's magnifier it took a while to recognize the numbers.

That's all for now.

 
Title: Re: PowerPint Overview Mighty Little MT
Post by: gerleatherberman on May 16, 2018, 03:03:47 AM
Thank you Exeter and Sam Lim for posting about your Pints. That is absolutely why I didn't call my thread a review(just an overview). I had a sneaking suspicion that QC problems would have a greater impact in regards to the way this tool is constructed. The tolerances are MUCH tighter than any of their other tools.
I will not write a review now that I know they couldn't make this tool consistently as well as the one I received.  :facepalm:
Title: Re: PowerPint Overview Mighty Little MT
Post by: Sam Lim on May 16, 2018, 04:37:03 AM
I think the tool clumping are unavoidable. Since they are just normal washers. Nothing "special" like Gerbers or some leatherman series that are designed for that purpose. I am actually fine with clumping. But what happened in my case was not suppose to happen..  :twak: Sog.

BTW, anyone notice there isn't a proper flathead screwdriver on board...  :facepalm: my cap lifter will turn into one soon..
Title: Re: PowerPint Overview Mighty Little MT
Post by: gerleatherberman on May 16, 2018, 04:47:28 AM
I think the tool clumping are unavoidable. Since they are just normal washers. Nothing "special" like Gerbers or some leatherman series that are designed for that purpose. I am actually fine with clumping. But what happened in my case was not suppose to happen..  :twak: Sog.

BTW, anyone notice there isn't a proper flathead screwdriver on board...  :facepalm: my cap lifter will turn into one soon..
I did mention that you'll need to pocket a few bits with the Pint if you need more than a "jeweler's flat driver." :pok:
Title: Re: PowerPint Overview Mighty Little MT
Post by: Sam Lim on May 16, 2018, 06:02:53 AM
I think the tool clumping are unavoidable. Since they are just normal washers. Nothing "special" like Gerbers or some leatherman series that are designed for that purpose. I am actually fine with clumping. But what happened in my case was not suppose to happen..  :twak: Sog.

BTW, anyone notice there isn't a proper flathead screwdriver on board...  :facepalm: my cap lifter will turn into one soon..
I did mention that you'll need to pocket a few bits with the Pint if you need more than a "jeweler's flat driver." :pok:

Ya.. I missed that..  :facepalm:  This is quite a strange MT after playing with it for a while.. It feels like a shrunk down power grab.. Rather than a new design... Strange...
Title: Re: PowerPint Overview Mighty Little MT
Post by: gerleatherberman on May 16, 2018, 06:13:36 AM
I think the tool clumping are unavoidable. Since they are just normal washers. Nothing "special" like Gerbers or some leatherman series that are designed for that purpose. I am actually fine with clumping. But what happened in my case was not suppose to happen..  :twak: Sog.

BTW, anyone notice there isn't a proper flathead screwdriver on board...  :facepalm: my cap lifter will turn into one soon..
I did mention that you'll need to pocket a few bits with the Pint if you need more than a "jeweler's flat driver." :pok:

Ya.. I missed that..  :facepalm:  This is quite a strange MT after playing with it for a while.. It feels like a shrunk down power grab.. Rather than a new design... Strange...
Do you still have a PowerGrab? I am not getting that feeling...yet.
The PowerGrab seems(to me anyway) more akin to the PowerPlay than anything else. Maybe I am missing something? :think:

Edit:
It does seem like a decent new modding platform. Any ideas for modding the Pint yet, Sam Lim? :like:
Title: Re: PowerPint Overview Mighty Little MT
Post by: Sam Lim on May 16, 2018, 06:34:50 AM
I think the tool clumping are unavoidable. Since they are just normal washers. Nothing "special" like Gerbers or some leatherman series that are designed for that purpose. I am actually fine with clumping. But what happened in my case was not suppose to happen..  :twak: Sog.

BTW, anyone notice there isn't a proper flathead screwdriver on board...  :facepalm: my cap lifter will turn into one soon..
I did mention that you'll need to pocket a few bits with the Pint if you need more than a "jeweler's flat driver." :pok:

Ya.. I missed that..  :facepalm:  This is quite a strange MT after playing with it for a while.. It feels like a shrunk down power grab.. Rather than a new design... Strange...
Do you still have a PowerGrab? I am not getting that feeling...yet.
The PowerGrab seems(to me anyway) more akin to the PowerPlay than anything else. Maybe I am missing something? :think:

Edit:
It does seem like a decent new modding platform. Any ideas for modding the Pint yet, Sam Lim? :like:

I sold off the power grab soon after I got it.. Felt that its too bulky. I remember when I first got the power grab, when I open the handle and saw that pliers head, that left a deep impression in me. That thing is beautiful beyond words..

Off my mind, juice/squirt tools look quite promising. Pivot holes looks quite the same I think.. Adding in the package opener from dime will be a great asset I feel. After taking it apart yesterday..

I might pull off another stunt here with a unlocking lever again. The one on the ST work really well. Not liking the lock on this one..
Title: Re: PowerPint Overview Mighty Little MT
Post by: gerleatherberman on May 16, 2018, 07:02:55 AM
Looking forward to seeing what you come up with. :cheers:

Edit: Just saw your edit, Sam Lim.
That plier head is the main reason I kept mine, so I know what you mean. The Grab plier head is possibly the most beautifully machined plier head ever made. :ahhh


On another note, I am curious to know if the tool tangs on the Pints You and Exeter got are rougher looking than mine. I hope this photo shows it clearly. It feels really smooth, so I didn't give it any thought, but in macro, I can see it.
Does yours look rougher? Does it feel rough to the touch?
Title: Re: PowerPint Overview Mighty Little MT
Post by: gerleatherberman on May 16, 2018, 07:12:20 AM
For anyone not sure what Sam and I are talking about in regards to the PowerGrab plier head(Grab left and PAD right). :cheers:
Title: Re: PowerPint Overview Mighty Little MT
Post by: Sam Lim on May 16, 2018, 09:10:09 AM
For anyone not sure what Sam and I are talking about in regards to the PowerGrab plier head(Grab left and PAD right). :cheers:

GLBM, you and I know the picture doesn't do it justice. I honestly haven seen anything that wows me that much after the PG.. Now u are making me wanting one again...  :ahhh

Regarding the backside of the tool, some are smooth, some rough. Enough to feel the "gear" effect when pulling it back..
Title: Re: PowerPint Overview Mighty Little MT
Post by: gerleatherberman on May 16, 2018, 09:29:34 AM

GLBM, you and I know the picture doesn't do it justice. I honestly haven seen anything that wows me that much after the PG.. Now u are making me wanting one again...  :ahhh

Regarding the backside of the tool, some are smooth, some rough. Enough to feel the "gear" effect when pulling it back..
Had to try. People might think we're nuts saying the PowerGrab did something excellent. :rofl:

Thank you, Sam!
It'll be interesting to see if that issue gets worse on newer Pints as tooling at the factory starts to wear out in the future. :facepalm:
Title: Re: PowerPint Overview Mighty Little MT
Post by: Sam Lim on May 16, 2018, 11:29:09 AM

GLBM, you and I know the picture doesn't do it justice. I honestly haven seen anything that wows me that much after the PG.. Now u are making me wanting one again...  :ahhh

Regarding the backside of the tool, some are smooth, some rough. Enough to feel the "gear" effect when pulling it back..
Had to try. People might think we're nuts saying the PowerGrab did something excellent. :rofl:

Thank you, Sam!
It'll be interesting to see if that issue gets worse on newer Pints as tooling at the factory starts to wear out in the future. :facepalm:

Who isn't nuts over here...  :rofl:
Title: Re: PowerPint Overview Mighty Little MT
Post by: Exeter on May 16, 2018, 12:56:53 PM
Looking forward to seeing what you come up with. :cheers:

Edit: Just saw your edit, Sam Lim.
That plier head is the main reason I kept mine, so I know what you mean. The Grab plier head is possibly the most beautifully machined plier head ever made. :ahhh


On another note, I am curious to know if the tool tangs on the Pints You and Exeter got are rougher looking than mine. I hope this photo shows it clearly. It feels really smooth, so I didn't give it any thought, but in macro, I can see it.
Does yours look rougher? Does it feel rough to the touch?

On mine they look like this. There are machining marks, and can be felt when opening, definitely not buttery smooth, but wouldn't call it rough either.
Title: Re: PowerPint Overview Mighty Little MT
Post by: Exeter on May 16, 2018, 01:51:27 PM
Also, future owners be aware that the scissors on the PowerPint, although require quite some force to operate, are only good for threads, a couple of layers of normal printer/newspaper, thin zipties, thin regular cardboard. I tried it on corrugated cardboard and it failed miserably. See on the photo: the abandoned cut was made with the PP, the rest for comparison with the same piece of cardboard.

EDIT: Based on the size of the scissors, maybe a Squirt PS4 would be better for comparison, but I wouldn't dare to have a go at cardboard like this with that, so looking at like that, it's a win for the PP. :)

 
Title: Re: PowerPint Overview Mighty Little MT
Post by: Sam Lim on May 16, 2018, 02:10:30 PM
Try cutter with your left hand. This is a pair of left handed scissor like I said before earlier.

I, am, serious.

Btw, the design of the scissors are off. The handles are too short to give it any kind of proper leverage.
Title: Re: PowerPint Overview Mighty Little MT
Post by: Exeter on May 16, 2018, 02:26:33 PM
Try cutter with your left hand. This is a pair of left handed scissor like I said before earlier.

I, am, serious.

Btw, the design of the scissors are off. The handles are too short to give it any kind of proper leverage.

Well, I did just that, but saw no difference, it just chewed on the cardboard, it's too much for it. And let me add that I'm ambidexterous, or mixed handed to be precise, so my left is pretty much the same in strength and dexterity as my right, so that variable can be ruled out. For the sake of the experiment, I tried it with my right hand upside down, with the moving arm facing downwards to my pointer finger, but no difference either.

Maybe you scissors are better made, or your hand/fingers are stronger.
Title: Re: PowerPint Overview Mighty Little MT
Post by: Wspeed on May 16, 2018, 02:27:49 PM
Yes they are left handed  :tu:
You can see it properly in the pic of Sam
Nice one Sam never noticed that before  :like: :like: :tu:
Title: Re: PowerPint Overview Mighty Little MT
Post by: Sam Lim on May 16, 2018, 03:17:28 PM
Try cutter with your left hand. This is a pair of left handed scissor like I said before earlier.

I, am, serious.

Btw, the design of the scissors are off. The handles are too short to give it any kind of proper leverage.

Well, I did just that, but saw no difference, it just chewed on the cardboard, it's too much for it. And let me add that I'm ambidexterous, or mixed handed to be precise, so my left is pretty much the same in strength and dexterity as my right, so that variable can be ruled out. For the sake of the experiment, I tried it with my right hand upside down, with the moving arm facing downwards to my pointer finger, but no difference either.

Maybe you scissors are better made, or your hand/fingers are stronger.

Without any disrespect, I am serious. Its not my hands are better or anything like that. It's really a left handed scissors. There are scissors specifically made for left handers. And this is one of them. I am not sure why Sog made this decision. The past scissors designs from the powerlock series are right handed.

Well, the scissors from sog had never been great for the record. So.. I am not too surprise that it didn't make the cut this time round.. Mine is terrible as well.
Title: Re: PowerPint Overview Mighty Little MT
Post by: Exeter on May 16, 2018, 03:34:33 PM
Try cutter with your left hand. This is a pair of left handed scissor like I said before earlier.

I, am, serious.

Btw, the design of the scissors are off. The handles are too short to give it any kind of proper leverage.

Well, I did just that, but saw no difference, it just chewed on the cardboard, it's too much for it. And let me add that I'm ambidexterous, or mixed handed to be precise, so my left is pretty much the same in strength and dexterity as my right, so that variable can be ruled out. For the sake of the experiment, I tried it with my right hand upside down, with the moving arm facing downwards to my pointer finger, but no difference either.

Maybe you scissors are better made, or your hand/fingers are stronger.

Without any disrespect, I am serious. Its not my hands are better or anything like that. It's really a left handed scissors. There are scissors specifically made for left handers. And this is one of them. I am not sure why Sog made this decision. The past scissors designs from the powerlock series are right handed.

Well, the scissors from sog had never been great for the record. So.. I am not too surprise that it didn't make the cut this time round.. Mine is terrible as well.

Well, I didn't think you're pulling my leg. :) And I see what you mean with it being left handed, the arms are arranged opposite as on other scissors, I just meant for me it didn't make any difference when trying it left handed. Take thick blades, short lever arms and a too strong spring and you have your PowerPint scissors. :)
Title: Re: PowerPint Overview Mighty Little MT
Post by: gerleatherberman on May 16, 2018, 03:53:22 PM
Quote from: Exeter
On mine they look like this. There are machining marks, and can be felt when opening, definitely not buttery smooth, but wouldn't call it rough either.
Thank you for the input, Exeter!

Also, future owners be aware that the scissors on the PowerPint, although require quite some force to operate, are only good for threads, a couple of layers of normal printer/newspaper, thin zipties, thin regular cardboard. I tried it on corrugated cardboard and it failed miserably. See on the photo: the abandoned cut was made with the PP, the rest for comparison with the same piece of cardboard.

EDIT: Based on the size of the scissors, maybe a Squirt PS4 would be better for comparison, but I wouldn't dare to have a go at cardboard like this with that, so looking at like that, it's a win for the PP. :)

 
The scissors were not a disappointment on the Pint for me either after all, after using them on a bunch of stuff.  Card stock was the thickest material I successfully cut with mine. Corrugated cardboard is tough on little scissors. :ahhh
Try cutter with your left hand. This is a pair of left handed scissor like I said before earlier.

I, am, serious.

Btw, the design of the scissors are off. The handles are too short to give it any kind of proper leverage.
Well, seeing as the Pint uses the compound leverage pliersand has a tool locking mechanism, that is likely the best handle to cutting end ratio they could have achieved. The spring is stiff, but could possible be removed and over extended to remove some tension. More work to fix another new SOG issue. Though, I should note, the scissors on mine are acceptable in regards to spring tension. Not butter soft like a LM Juice or 91mm SAK, but not as bad as a lot of scissors I've used on cheaper MTs.

I found little difference in using ambidextrously as well, although I concede the point they wouldbe easier to use for a lefty to some degree.



In essence, barring the silly file, the tools were actually better than I had expected considering the tool's nature. IMO of course.
Title: Re: PowerPint Overview Mighty Little MT
Post by: Sam Lim on May 16, 2018, 04:08:37 PM
Try cutter with your left hand. This is a pair of left handed scissor like I said before earlier.

I, am, serious.

Btw, the design of the scissors are off. The handles are too short to give it any kind of proper leverage.

Well, I did just that, but saw no difference, it just chewed on the cardboard, it's too much for it. And let me add that I'm ambidexterous, or mixed handed to be precise, so my left is pretty much the same in strength and dexterity as my right, so that variable can be ruled out. For the sake of the experiment, I tried it with my right hand upside down, with the moving arm facing downwards to my pointer finger, but no difference either.

Maybe you scissors are better made, or your hand/fingers are stronger.

Without any disrespect, I am serious. Its not my hands are better or anything like that. It's really a left handed scissors. There are scissors specifically made for left handers. And this is one of them. I am not sure why Sog made this decision. The past scissors designs from the powerlock series are right handed.

Well, the scissors from sog had never been great for the record. So.. I am not too surprise that it didn't make the cut this time round.. Mine is terrible as well.

Well, I didn't think you're pulling my leg. :) And I see what you mean with it being left handed, the arms are arranged opposite as on other scissors, I just meant for me it didn't make any difference when trying it left handed. Take thick blades, short lever arms and a too strong spring and you have your PowerPint scissors. :)

 :cheers:

Though I sounded like I have alot of complains for the power pint, I am still liking this tool alot. Well mainly because how small and compact this is! Lets face it. The scissors are smallish and most likely suited for light task which I think they are ok-ish. Let's look beyond the scissors! There's the wonderful awl, nice blades, butter spreading file, etc etc....  :like:
Title: Re: PowerPint Overview Mighty Little MT
Post by: Exeter on May 16, 2018, 06:10:12 PM
Try cutter with your left hand. This is a pair of left handed scissor like I said before earlier.

I, am, serious.

Btw, the design of the scissors are off. The handles are too short to give it any kind of proper leverage.

Well, I did just that, but saw no difference, it just chewed on the cardboard, it's too much for it. And let me add that I'm ambidexterous, or mixed handed to be precise, so my left is pretty much the same in strength and dexterity as my right, so that variable can be ruled out. For the sake of the experiment, I tried it with my right hand upside down, with the moving arm facing downwards to my pointer finger, but no difference either.

Maybe you scissors are better made, or your hand/fingers are stronger.

Without any disrespect, I am serious. Its not my hands are better or anything like that. It's really a left handed scissors. There are scissors specifically made for left handers. And this is one of them. I am not sure why Sog made this decision. The past scissors designs from the powerlock series are right handed.

Well, the scissors from sog had never been great for the record. So.. I am not too surprise that it didn't make the cut this time round.. Mine is terrible as well.

Well, I didn't think you're pulling my leg. :) And I see what you mean with it being left handed, the arms are arranged opposite as on other scissors, I just meant for me it didn't make any difference when trying it left handed. Take thick blades, short lever arms and a too strong spring and you have your PowerPint scissors. :)

 :cheers:

Though I sounded like I have alot of complains for the power pint, I am still liking this tool alot. Well mainly because how small and compact this is! Lets face it. The scissors are smallish and most likely suited for light task which I think they are ok-ish. Let's look beyond the scissors! There's the wonderful awl, nice blades, butter spreading file, etc etc....  :like:

Oh yeah, I do like the tool as well for its compactness and versatility, so those who are contemplating buying one, don't let yourselves be turned off by my/our "camplaints", it's still a nice little multitool and I am happy I got one.  :multi:
Title: Re: PowerPint Overview Mighty Little MT
Post by: Exeter on May 16, 2018, 06:20:19 PM
And I almost forgot: I mentioned I didn't really like the stowash finish, so I polished the middle "panel" on the handles. It came out pretty nice, at least for my eyes. It's not easy to show on camera, but irl it looks quite stylish like this.

Title: Re: PowerPint Overview Mighty Little MT
Post by: Exeter on May 16, 2018, 09:21:27 PM
Hm, I just noticed now, that the plier has slightly different typefaces for the SOG logo on the two sides. Interesting. Since this is my first and only SOG product, I can only speculate why this is. Is this something SOG regularly does? Or did the two halves come from a different batch?

Title: Re: PowerPint Overview Mighty Little MT
Post by: gerleatherberman on May 17, 2018, 01:58:45 AM
Glad everyone is enjoying their Pints. For me, I like almost everything about it. Except the file, but that was expected.
SOG may have a safety flotation device in the PowerPint. The size and amountof tools are impressive. What really impresses me is that the PowerPint might be the smallest multitool with all locking implements. Aside from the LM Leap possibly. I'll have to check that out this evening.  :cheers:

Hm, I just noticed now, that the plier has slightly different typefaces for the SOG logo on the two sides. Interesting. Since this is my first and only SOG product, I can only speculate why this is. Is this something SOG regularly does? Or did the two halves come from a different batch?
That is so strange. I'll look at mine wheb I get home. Maybe they had some plier halves cast with a different logo design for early/pre production or something. A mystery that should prove interesting to solve. :)
Those handles look really nice with the centers polished, DT! :like:
Title: Re: PowerPint Overview Mighty Little MT
Post by: gerleatherberman on May 17, 2018, 02:48:57 AM
Dutch_Tooler,
My Pint has the same peculiar difference of branding. Kind of neat.

And I was wrong. The Pint IS the smallest MT with all locking tools that I know of. The Leap has a few tools that don't lock. :ahhh

The Leap is also more bulky. SOG may have a winner with the PowerPint. :multi:
Title: Re: PowerPint Overview Mighty Little MT
Post by: DeezNittles on May 19, 2018, 01:36:29 AM
All sites are back to saying preorder...  :facepalm:

Is there anything on your Pints to designate it as a first production run?
Title: Re: PowerPint Overview Mighty Little MT
Post by: gerleatherberman on May 19, 2018, 02:40:10 AM
All sites are back to saying preorder...  :facepalm:

Is there anything on your Pints to designate it as a first production run?
Possibly the different cast SOG logos on the pliers. :think:
There aren't any numbers or anything, so it's hard to tell.
I hope the Pint can dig SOG out of their metaphorical hole. :)
Title: Re: PowerPint Overview Mighty Little MT
Post by: Exeter on May 19, 2018, 11:34:49 AM
All sites are back to saying preorder...  :facepalm:

Is there anything on your Pints to designate it as a first production run?
Possibly the different cast SOG logos on the pliers. :think:
There aren't any numbers or anything, so it's hard to tell.
I hope the Pint can dig SOG out of their metaphorical hole. :)

Interesting. And yeah, no date stamps or anything.

I guess I'll be pretty annoyed if a second run comes out with a proper, functional file. :) But of course it would be a positive for future buyers, and a good step from the company if they improve the quality.
Title: Re: PowerPint Overview Mighty Little MT
Post by: gerleatherberman on May 19, 2018, 03:40:43 PM
Hey Exeter,
If the newer ones have good files, then we must immediately request SOG send us just the files to install ourselves. :D
Title: Re: PowerPint Overview Mighty Little MT
Post by: Wspeed on May 19, 2018, 03:53:57 PM
Hey Exeter,
If the newer ones have good files, then we must immediately request SOG send us just the files to install ourselves. :D
+1 :gimme: :gimme:
Title: Re: PowerPint Overview Mighty Little MT
Post by: Exeter on May 19, 2018, 03:57:15 PM
Hey Exeter,
If the newer ones have good files, then we must immediately request SOG send us just the files to install ourselves. :D

Indeed. (Why haven't I thought of that in the first place?)
Title: Re: PowerPint Overview Mighty Little MT
Post by: Sam Lim on May 19, 2018, 04:17:10 PM
I was working on the scissors the whole afternoon and I think I have figured out what's wrong with it. It's simply a case of bad design. The angle of the "V" opening of the 2 blades are totally off. They does not provide any slicing action but rather 2 pieces of metal trying to go past each other at a very steep angle. It's more like chopping than slicing. The short length of the handle makes it even worse.  :think: I hope people can understand. The left hand cut post another problem. U try to draw a straight line on a piece of paper and try to cut it. You will get what I mean. In case you are wondering, the dime scissors uses a left handed design. So it doesn't cut well either though mine doesn't have much issues. So imo, there's no way to significantly improve the scissors. Well its a small scissors for small tasks. Not the end of the world, but I would say it's a bad failed design.

The awl is extremely well designed. But it drew blood the second day on using it.... When u have the PE blade out, watch where your middle finger is resting. There's a high chance it may wander into the handle frame, into the awl. I was aware of this danger so I am always very mindful of it. But that day, I was just fidgeting with the MT and my finger still got caught on the awl.. So this tool is having a trip to the grinder. But it's really a awl with the optimal pokey power. All awls should be made in this design..
Title: Re: PowerPint Overview Mighty Little MT
Post by: Exeter on May 19, 2018, 04:26:02 PM
I was working on the scissors the whole afternoon and I think I have figured out what's wrong with it. It's simply a case of bad design. The angle of the "V" opening of the 2 blades are totally off. They does not provide any slicing action but rather 2 pieces of metal trying to go past each other at a very steep angle. It's more like chopping than slicing. The short length of the handle makes it even worse.  :think: I hope people can understand. The left hand cut post another problem. U try to draw a straight line on a piece of paper and try to cut it. You will get what I mean. In case you are wondering, the dime scissors uses a left handed design. So it doesn't cut well either though mine doesn't have much issues. So imo, there's no way to significantly improve the scissors. Well its a small scissors for small tasks. Not the end of the world, but I would say it's a bad failed design.

The awl is extremely well designed. But it drew blood the second day on using it.... When u have the PE blade out, watch where your middle finger is resting. There's a high chance it may wander into the handle frame, into the awl. I was aware of this danger so I am always very mindful of it. But that day, I was just fidgeting with the MT and my finger still got caught on the awl.. So this tool is having a trip to the grinder. But it's really a awl with the optimal pokey power. All awls should be made in this design..

Sam, how/what are you planning to modify the awl exactly? So far I managed to avoid being stabbed or cut by it, but got close to it myself, so I'd be interested to hear your (planned) solution. Are you thinking of deepening that little notch at the bottom for it to lie a bit deeper when closed?
Title: Re: PowerPint Overview Mighty Little MT
Post by: Sam Lim on May 19, 2018, 04:47:09 PM
I was working on the scissors the whole afternoon and I think I have figured out what's wrong with it. It's simply a case of bad design. The angle of the "V" opening of the 2 blades are totally off. They does not provide any slicing action but rather 2 pieces of metal trying to go past each other at a very steep angle. It's more like chopping than slicing. The short length of the handle makes it even worse.  :think: I hope people can understand. The left hand cut post another problem. U try to draw a straight line on a piece of paper and try to cut it. You will get what I mean. In case you are wondering, the dime scissors uses a left handed design. So it doesn't cut well either though mine doesn't have much issues. So imo, there's no way to significantly improve the scissors. Well its a small scissors for small tasks. Not the end of the world, but I would say it's a bad failed design.

The awl is extremely well designed. But it drew blood the second day on using it.... When u have the PE blade out, watch where your middle finger is resting. There's a high chance it may wander into the handle frame, into the awl. I was aware of this danger so I am always very mindful of it. But that day, I was just fidgeting with the MT and my finger still got caught on the awl.. So this tool is having a trip to the grinder. But it's really a awl with the optimal pokey power. All awls should be made in this design..

Sam, how/what are you planning to modify the awl exactly? So far I managed to avoid being stabbed or cut by it, but got close to it myself, so I'd be interested to hear your (planned) solution. Are you thinking of deepening that little notch at the bottom for it to lie a bit deeper when closed?

I am not going that direction.. That would make that particular tools recessed and sort of ruin the outlook.. I just grounded some material off the back of the awl. Its still super effective.

(https://i.imgur.com/7Dci4Db.jpg)

It doesn't have to be much and doesn't seem much. But enough to be safe.
(https://i.imgur.com/tc7zgqk.jpg)
Title: Re: PowerPint Overview Mighty Little MT
Post by: Exeter on May 19, 2018, 04:56:53 PM
Ah, I see, nice and simple. I overthought it. :D
Title: Re: PowerPint Overview Mighty Little MT
Post by: Sam Lim on May 19, 2018, 05:42:44 PM
Well.. :facepalm: I just snapped my spring for the scissors.. I swear I was using it normally.. Can't say I am surprised.. So this marks the end for my ranting of the scissors..   :whistle:
Title: Re: PowerPint Overview Mighty Little MT
Post by: Wspeed on May 19, 2018, 05:50:23 PM
Well.. :facepalm: I just snapped my spring for the scissors.. I swear I was using it normally.. Can't say I am surprised.. So this marks the end for my ranting of the scissors..   :whistle:
Not again :rant:
This is happening a couple of times now  :ahhh :ahhh
It happened to a member on here with the PAD
Were the spring broke for the lock mechanism  ??? >:(
Title: Re: PowerPint Overview Mighty Little MT
Post by: Sam Lim on May 19, 2018, 07:31:22 PM
Well.. :facepalm: I just snapped my spring for the scissors.. I swear I was using it normally.. Can't say I am surprised.. So this marks the end for my ranting of the scissors..   :whistle:
Not again :rant:
This is happening a couple of times now  :ahhh :ahhh
It happened to a member on here with the PAD
Were the spring broke for the lock mechanism  ??? >:(

To be honest, I am not really surprised by it. Not even angry.. Amused really.

Not really sure what u meant by "Were the spring broke for the lock mechanism  ???" .. But looking at the spring method they have used for the locking tabs, I think that will be another very possible failure...

I am pretty fast at working/breaking apart things nowadays.. its midnight now so I am only using "quiet" hand tools.. Some changes were made to the loadout. Broken scissors and serrated blade removed.  :cheers:

Some filing work of course. Though the pivot size are different, It doesn't prevent the wave scissors to lock up properly and perfectly functional. The wave scissors was from my parts bin.The thumb pad was broken originally, that's why the handles on this scissors are so short. If done on a proper wave scissors, It should be another 10mm longer, which is a very decent length. Mighty package opener from a Dime of course.( from ThePeacent )
(https://i.imgur.com/6MUyLeH.jpg)

 :multi:
Title: Re: PowerPint Overview Mighty Little MT
Post by: Wspeed on May 19, 2018, 08:49:14 PM
Sorry for not explaining it properly
And my bad spelling :rofl:
The springs I mean are on the handle
Better way here is a pic  :tu: :cheers:
Title: Re: PowerPint Overview Mighty Little MT
Post by: Sam Lim on May 19, 2018, 09:05:31 PM
Sorry for not explaining it properly
And my bad spelling :rofl:
The springs I mean are on the handle
Better way here is a pic  :tu: :cheers:

Ok thats what I thought. Mine is not broken, yet... But I do believe they will eventually...
Title: Re: PowerPint Overview Mighty Little MT
Post by: Wspeed on May 19, 2018, 09:17:13 PM
I would love to see a replaceable spring system
That can just be clipped on to the handles  :think: :tu:
Title: Re: PowerPint Overview Mighty Little MT
Post by: gerleatherberman on May 20, 2018, 02:05:29 AM
I think Gerber(saf-t-lock) is the only current producer of an MT with replaceable springs. LM, Vic, and SOG have permanent springs. Either riveted on (Vic) or part of the handle.
Some exemptions apply, but for the most part, these comanies really don't care about a tool lasting forever.

But, SOG, the springs need to hold up more than a week. :facepalm:
Title: Re: PowerPint Overview Mighty Little MT
Post by: ThePeacent on May 20, 2018, 02:42:55 PM

But, SOG, the springs need to hold up more than a week. :facepalm:

the only two things I've broken in my SOGs are a scissors spring  :rant:  and a dented cable cutter  :facepalm:
Title: Re: PowerPint Overview Mighty Little MT
Post by: gerleatherberman on May 20, 2018, 05:24:34 PM
SOG and Gerber seem to have a hard time figuring out how to temper scissors springs. I wish they would do back to the old spring ribbon/wire concept. :facepalm:
Title: Re: PowerPint Overview Mighty Little MT
Post by: Sam Lim on May 20, 2018, 06:46:52 PM
SOG and Gerber seem to have a hard time figuring out how to temper scissors springs. I wish they would do back to the old spring ribbon/wire concept. :facepalm:

Yeah. Those are pretty much fail proof.
Title: Re: PowerPint Overview Mighty Little MT
Post by: Sakpan74Gr on August 07, 2018, 07:52:36 PM
Considering that the file is nothing to write home about, I thought it would be useful to shape the end as a scrapper. (Is that what it is? English isn't my first language...) You can see before and after the Dremel treatment.(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180807/66ab8bd6be33c55fdfb3f4506a8f0902.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180807/0deba146ca3aceb09084592953d86c63.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180807/9270657231a1d29c35e631c436acf37f.jpg)

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Title: Re: PowerPint Overview Mighty Little MT
Post by: gerleatherberman on August 07, 2018, 07:57:23 PM
Excellent improvement, Sakpan!

 :like:
Title: Re: PowerPint Overview Mighty Little MT
Post by: Exeter on August 07, 2018, 07:58:36 PM
Considering that the file is nothing to write home about, I thought it would be useful to shape the end as a scrapper. (Is that what it is? English isn't my first language...) You can see before and after the Dremel treatment.(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180807/66ab8bd6be33c55fdfb3f4506a8f0902.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180807/0deba146ca3aceb09084592953d86c63.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180807/9270657231a1d29c35e631c436acf37f.jpg)

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Pretty nice!  :tu: Great idea, maybe I'll try that too.
Title: Re: PowerPint Overview Mighty Little MT
Post by: gerleatherberman on August 07, 2018, 08:08:50 PM
It has been a while since the Pint came out. My thoughts are mostly positive.

Pros:
Compound leverage on the mid-sized plier head.
Outside tool access.
Locking tools.
Pocketable.
Stronger than expected.
After the tool went through a 'break-in' period, the tools and pliers deploy, lock and unlock smoothly and a slight snap holdin the tools in now (not perfect, but acceptable).
Easy to disassemble.
After a while, the scissors got a bit easier to use. Not great, but mediocre.

Cons:
My first one had a screw head break off when using the phillips driver hard. SOG took care of it. While SOG had it, I bought another one. It has had no problems so far.
Scissors are uncomfortable on harder materials.
File is mediocre at best.
Cutter hook came dull and the design isn't effective
You have to slightly open the handles to unlock the tools

I may be forgetting something, but those are my thoughts so far.
Title: Re: PowerPint Overview Mighty Little MT
Post by: Sakpan74Gr on September 01, 2018, 11:22:18 AM
And I almost forgot: I mentioned I didn't really like the stowash finish, so I polished the middle "panel" on the handles. It came out pretty nice, at least for my eyes. It's not easy to show on camera, but irl it looks quite stylish like this.
This is really beautiful! How did you do it? Sandpaper? What kind of grit?

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Title: Re: PowerPint Overview Mighty Little MT
Post by: Exeter on September 01, 2018, 11:26:23 AM
And I almost forgot: I mentioned I didn't really like the stowash finish, so I polished the middle "panel" on the handles. It came out pretty nice, at least for my eyes. It's not easy to show on camera, but irl it looks quite stylish like this.
This is really beautiful! How did you do it? Sandpaper? What kind of grit?

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I used 1000 and 2000 grit sandpaper if I remember correctly and then green polishing compound.
Title: Re: PowerPint Overview Mighty Little MT
Post by: roamingcat on February 10, 2019, 10:51:42 AM
REPLACE THE SCISSORS AND FILER TO MAKE IT PERFECT

On paper, the Powerpint appears to be the perfect edc for me since it ticks all the boxes for me.... pocketability, all-outside tools deployment, comprehensive tool selection, etc.. However, based on the reviews I have seen so far, I am very concerned with the scissors and filer which I use often.

I am thinking, if I do get the Powerpint, whether I could replace the scissors and filer with one from say, a Victorinox Classic (or some other MT). What do you guys think? Do you think it would work? Any advice would be greatly appreciated ! Thanks in advance.
Title: Re: PowerPint Overview Mighty Little MT
Post by: Exeter on February 10, 2019, 11:15:50 AM
Welcome to the forum roamingcat and enjoy your time here!

I'm not sure about the modding possibilities in that sense, but I'd be curious to see what others might come up with.

And yeah, the scissors are just plain bad, I had the springbar just snap on me last week while cutting paper! I wrote to SOG asking about warranty, and if they could send me a replacement spring part, but they informed me that I'd have to send the whole tool in for repair. Financially it just wouldn't make sense for me, shipping would be 70% of the original price I paid for it, so now I'm stuck with non-functional scissors. ...any modders, handy MTO-ers wanting to try their hand at making a replacement spring?  ;)

Title: Re: PowerPint Overview Mighty Little MT
Post by: Sam Lim on February 10, 2019, 03:57:50 PM
Welcome to the forum roamingcat and enjoy your time here!

I'm not sure about the modding possibilities in that sense, but I'd be curious to see what others might come up with.

And yeah, the scissors are just plain bad, I had the springbar just snap on me last week while cutting paper! I wrote to SOG asking about warranty, and if they could send me a replacement spring part, but they informed me that I'd have to send the whole tool in for repair. Financially it just wouldn't make sense for me, shipping would be 70% of the original price I paid for it, so now I'm stuck with non-functional scissors. ...any modders, handy MTO-ers wanting to try their hand at making a replacement spring?  ;)

I wouldnt bother with making a spring for the scissors though. The scissors is just plain bad. Giving it the best spring in the world doesn't make any difference. I broke it the first day of acquiring it. What roamingcat said is in the right direction. It needs to be replaced. I somewhat have a wave scissors in there on the very first day. Needs lots of refinement but works miles better than the original scissors.
Title: Re: PowerPint Overview Mighty Little MT
Post by: roamingcat on February 11, 2019, 03:27:17 AM
Welcome to the forum roamingcat and enjoy your time here!

I'm not sure about the modding possibilities in that sense, but I'd be curious to see what others might come up with.

And yeah, the scissors are just plain bad, I had the springbar just snap on me last week while cutting paper! I wrote to SOG asking about warranty, and if they could send me a replacement spring part, but they informed me that I'd have to send the whole tool in for repair. Financially it just wouldn't make sense for me, shipping would be 70% of the original price I paid for it, so now I'm stuck with non-functional scissors. ...any modders, handy MTO-ers wanting to try their hand at making a replacement spring?  ;)

Thank you Exeter for your kind words. Sorry to hear about your scissors  :(. Seems like it is a fairly common problem and hopefully our community here can collectively work out a solution.

I am interested to hear more about Sam's solution, i.e. replacing it with a Wave scissors. Sam, if it is not too much trouble can you post some pics and tell us a little bit more how you did it? I have a Leatherman Fuse which I don't use often and I am happy to 'transplant' the scissors to the PowerPint if I could. I really like to get the PowerPint as its design & configuration fits my requirements perfectly. Thanks so much.
Title: Re: PowerPint Overview Mighty Little MT
Post by: Sam Lim on February 11, 2019, 04:47:31 AM
Welcome to the forum roamingcat and enjoy your time here!

I'm not sure about the modding possibilities in that sense, but I'd be curious to see what others might come up with.

And yeah, the scissors are just plain bad, I had the springbar just snap on me last week while cutting paper! I wrote to SOG asking about warranty, and if they could send me a replacement spring part, but they informed me that I'd have to send the whole tool in for repair. Financially it just wouldn't make sense for me, shipping would be 70% of the original price I paid for it, so now I'm stuck with non-functional scissors. ...any modders, handy MTO-ers wanting to try their hand at making a replacement spring?  ;)

Thank you Exeter for your kind words. Sorry to hear about your scissors  :(. Seems like it is a fairly common problem and hopefully our community here can collectively work out a solution.

I am interested to hear more about Sam's solution, i.e. replacing it with a Wave scissors. Sam, if it is not too much trouble can you post some pics and tell us a little bit more how you did it? I have a Leatherman Fuse which I don't use often and I am happy to 'transplant' the scissors to the PowerPint if I could. I really like to get the PowerPint as its design & configuration fits my requirements perfectly. Thanks so much.

Hi! The pic of the wave scissors are just a few post up. Works but not the best solution.. Yesterday night after reading this post, I have again made some, I would say proper improvement. Let me get back home later to post up my solutions.  :cheers:
Title: Re: PowerPint Overview Mighty Little MT
Post by: Sam Lim on February 11, 2019, 06:55:41 AM
Here you go! I would say ditch that scissor and put in something else. Mine came from a crappy guidesman multitool. The scissors cuts very well though. Shouldnt be too difficult to find something that fits. But I am afraid a Vic SD will not work as theres not enough material around the pivot tag. Its was polished like a Vic's but I gave it a quick acid bath to match the finish. Not entirely a drop in, just some filing here and there.  :cheers: Theres another thing that needs work on though. The handles are floppy as smurf, making the pocket clip absolutely useless as the handles will open in the pocket.. Gotta find a way to keep them closed..

(https://i.imgur.com/5qaUq1P.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/kkAyXSw.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/L9jDlpP.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/L0LGUbb.jpg)

Donor MT
(https://i.imgur.com/FV2DXFA.jpg)
Title: Re: PowerPint Overview Mighty Little MT
Post by: roamingcat on February 11, 2019, 07:31:58 AM
[/quote
Hi! The pic of the wave scissors are just a few post up. Works but not the best solution.. Yesterday night after reading this post, I have again made some, I would say proper improvement. Let me get back home later to post up my solutions.  :cheers:
[/quote]

Thanks Sam. This sounds promising. Looking forward to your 'scissors solution'. Sorry for missing your earlier pics on the Wave scissors .... its reasuring to see the PowePint has good modding potential ! I really like the PP but I need it to have a pair of scissors that last for more than a week !

(sorry - cross post I think we posted simultaneously ... thanks for the update Sam !)
Title: Re: PowerPint Overview Mighty Little MT
Post by: Sam Lim on February 11, 2019, 08:18:05 AM
[/quote
Hi! The pic of the wave scissors are just a few post up. Works but not the best solution.. Yesterday night after reading this post, I have again made some, I would say proper improvement. Let me get back home later to post up my solutions.  :cheers:

Thanks Sam. This sounds promising. Looking forward to your 'scissors solution'. Sorry for missing your earlier pics on the Wave scissors .... its reasuring to see the PowePint has good modding potential ! I really like the PP but I need it to have a pair of scissors that last for more than a week !

(sorry - cross post I think we posted simultaneously ... thanks for the update Sam !)
[/quote]

 :cheers: modding potential I can't say much.. The pivot size is not quite a regular one.. I dun have a caliper to measure that. But at least its held together by screws and not rivets!
Title: Re: PowerPint Overview Mighty Little MT
Post by: roamingcat on February 11, 2019, 11:05:52 AM
Nice work Sam. Thanks for posting !
Title: Re: PowerPint Overview Mighty Little MT
Post by: chrono on February 24, 2019, 04:30:40 AM
Got my hand on a PowerPint in a lot deal. I have not used it yet, just played with it. My first impression is, this tool has a lot of potential, and can be a homerun for SOG. Immediately, the LM Juice series came to my mind as its competitor. Improvements can be done to this little gem IMO:
- Move the pocket clip to the pliers's pivot end
- Redesign the handles' cutouts for true one-hand opening
- The implements are quite crude. They need to be more polished
- Fix the file profile and the scissors' tension

I like the fact that I can adjust the tightness at the pivots. And there is no painted aluminum scale to worry about.
Title: Re: PowerPint Overview Mighty Little MT
Post by: gerleatherberman on February 24, 2019, 04:37:35 AM
Congrats on getting your Pint, Chrono! :cheers:

SOG has some almost-fantastic tools right now But, for some unbeknownst reason, chooses to stay the course with the way they are already. :dunno:

You have good points listed there, Chrono.  :iagree:
Title: Re: PowerPint Overview Mighty Little MT
Post by: roamingcat on February 26, 2019, 04:42:39 AM
Got my hand on a PowerPint in a lot deal. I have not used it yet, just played with it. My first impression is, this tool has a lot of potential, and can be a homerun for SOG. Immediately, the LM Juice series came to my mind as its competitor. Improvements can be done to this little gem IMO:
- Move the pocket clip to the pliers's pivot end
- Redesign the handles' cutouts for true one-hand opening
- The implements are quite crude. They need to be more polished
- Fix the file profile and the scissors' tension

I like the fact that I can adjust the tightness at the pivots. And there is no painted aluminum scale to worry about.

Just got mine too.  :iagree: entirely. Imo the PP is a great design :like:  but flawed badly in its implementation  :facepalm:. The materials used and construction feels flimsy compared to the Leatherman Juice which I think is its closest substitute. The scissors and filer in particular needs improvement, badly. I think I will limit the PP scissors to cutting excess garment threads only to avoid breaking it.

I really hope SOG will release a PP version 2 with the same basic design but improve upon the points mentioned above ... just look at how Leatherman / Vic do their scissors and filer, and upgrade the material to proper stainless steel (instead of the not-too-sure cheap alloy used currently?)

I attach a comparison shot of the similarity (size-wise) between PP and Juice S2 (currently being modded slightly pending my new pivots to arrive). :drool:
Title: Re: PowerPint Overview Mighty Little MT
Post by: gerleatherberman on February 26, 2019, 05:42:01 AM
I agree with your points, except the steel being inferior. I do agree that PP looks like the steel is "cheap", but fortunately, that is a perception side effect from the stonewash finish. The steel is actually the same mid-grade stainless found in their other tool's frames. The steel is similar to most other companies frame/handle steel. The poor machining of the file is a strong disappointment for sure. The scissors are not well designed, but would be drastically better with just a softer wire spring like Gerber uses. That piece of metal that acts as a spring is prone to breaking under use, because it was probably never intended to be tempered into spring steel(one of the reasons it takes a few pounds of pressure to move it).
Title: Re: PowerPint Overview Mighty Little MT
Post by: roamingcat on February 26, 2019, 06:17:28 AM
Thanks for clarifying and reassuring the steel material used. I wonder if anyone has figured out how to replace the springs for the scissors as it has been reported it has broken by a few posters before? I really want to use the scissors more than just cutting off excess garment threads.  :dunno:
Title: Re: PowerPint Overview Mighty Little MT
Post by: gerleatherberman on February 26, 2019, 06:24:54 AM
Thanks for clarifying and reassuring the steel material used. I wonder if anyone has figured out how to replace the springs for the scissors as it has been reported it has broken by a few posters before? I really want to use the scissors more than just cutting off excess garment threads.  :dunno:
:cheers:
As you know, Sam Lim has swapped in a pair of cheapie scissors, but that is a good question. I have not seen any posts about changing the scissor spring. I may be taking one of my Pints apart at some point and will try and remember to look at spring alternatives.  :)
Title: Re: PowerPint Overview Mighty Little MT
Post by: Sam Lim on February 26, 2019, 09:18:15 AM
:cheers:
As you know, Sam Lim has swapped in a pair of cheapie scissors, but that is a good question. I have not seen any posts about changing the scissor spring. I may be taking one of my Pints apart at some point and will try and remember to look at spring alternatives.  :)

Yes. Cheapie it is.  :D this is a left hand scissors. Unless u are left handed and dun mind that terrible design, I suggest ditching that and just put in something else. Many people will think that a scissors this tiny, there is no difference left or right orientated.  I would disagree. Right handers using a left hand scissors, ie a Spirit, dime, powerpint etc, seriously, draw a line on a piece of paper and try to cut it straight. U will know what I mean. U can't even see where u are cutting.
Title: Re: PowerPint Overview Mighty Little MT
Post by: gerleatherberman on February 26, 2019, 09:49:03 AM
I just turn the medium I am cutting at an angle to see what I'm doing. Whether it be left-hand scissors used with my right hand or right-hand scissors used with my left hand(doesn't matter to me). The scissors don't have to be perpendicular to your line of sight. :pok:  :D
Title: Re: PowerPint Overview Mighty Little MT
Post by: Sam Lim on February 26, 2019, 10:14:30 AM
I just turn the medium I am cutting at an angle to see what I'm doing. Whether it be left-hand scissors used with my right hand or right-hand scissors used with my left hand(doesn't matter to me). The scissors don't have to be perpendicular to your line of sight. :pok:  :D

Wrong.. That's just so wrong... Awkwardly wrong.. :ahhh
Title: Re: PowerPint Overview Mighty Little MT
Post by: gerleatherberman on February 26, 2019, 10:17:11 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/MqW1xPq.jpg?1)
(I had to borrow this from ThePeacent.)

I was born wrong.  :rofl:
Title: Re: PowerPint Overview Mighty Little MT
Post by: ThePeacent on February 26, 2019, 03:02:46 PM
I had to borrow this from ThePeacent
I was born wrong.  :rofl:

(https://i.imgur.com/BsBp1uo.jpg?1)

your line of sight. :pok:  :D

(https://i.imgur.com/Gzo4p3I.jpg)

U can't even see where u are cutting.

(https://i.imgur.com/gOkBvBr.jpg)
Title: Re: PowerPint Overview Mighty Little MT
Post by: Sam Lim on February 26, 2019, 05:04:02 PM
Seriously...... Take a piece of paper, draw a line, cut with those mentioned left hand mini scissors, tell me is easy.  :twak: :twak: :twak:
Title: Re: PowerPint Overview Mighty Little MT
Post by: gerleatherberman on February 26, 2019, 05:30:26 PM
Admittedly, I am at a bit of an advantage. When I had all of those surgeries on my right arm, I had to learn to do everything with my left arm(even writing). The cool part is that I now have two equally capable arms/hands.  :multi:

(https://i.imgur.com/BsBp1uo.jpg?1)

(https://i.imgur.com/Gzo4p3I.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/gOkBvBr.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/MqW1xPq.jpg?1)

 :rofl:
Title: Re: PowerPint Overview Mighty Little MT
Post by: sergemaster on February 26, 2019, 07:13:36 PM
Amici,
I've been using the PP on and off for the past few weeks in between using the Juice, to see which is more useful and comfortable as a user.  Here it is along with my Ernie mini 7, D25C-TI, and a 1930's repro zippo.

Cheers,
Serge 
Title: Re: PowerPint Overview Mighty Little MT
Post by: gerleatherberman on February 26, 2019, 07:42:19 PM
Fantastic combo, Serge! Looking forward to reading your thoughts on the Pint and Juice. :popcorn:
Title: Re: PowerPint Overview Mighty Little MT
Post by: roamingcat on March 09, 2019, 08:52:13 AM
2 essential mods for the PP for me. Idea borrowed from Sam  :like:.

1. converted that useless "nibble" to a flat head screw driver
2. filed down the back of the awl so it won't cut my finger accidentally

Scissors will be next, but I haven't found a suitable donor yet. More importantly, I don't feel my skills are ready for this yet  :facepalm:

Title: Re: PowerPint Overview Mighty Little MT
Post by: ReamerPunch on March 09, 2019, 10:36:05 AM
wow, that bottle-opener looks great, as if the tool came with it like that. Fantastic job. :cheers:
Title: Re: PowerPint Overview Mighty Little MT
Post by: gerleatherberman on March 10, 2019, 06:22:34 AM
roamingcat,

Good job and thank you for inspiring me to do some work on my Pint.

Made two different size flat drivers with the can opener and bottle opener. Used a fine wheel stone to get the sharp hollow-grind to make them bite. Did a similar mod to the awl that roamingcat did, where I lower the tip angle to avoid it catching my pocket/hand. Then used a hand diamond-file to file the back of the scissor spring where the spring tang touches the frame when engaged. Ground the semi-circle spring tip down to lessen the distance needed to squeeze. All in all the scissors are notably more functional(being easier to squeeze) and will be less likely to break(the spring doesn't exert as much force).

Used a sharpie to show how far I wanted to go.
(https://i.imgur.com/YBXR1KO.jpg)

After the grinding work on openers and awl.
(https://i.imgur.com/u8EBQ17.jpg)

Four good drivers now.  :)
(https://i.imgur.com/0DESqos.jpg)

See how I moved the leaf spring out and up to work on it.
This is when I used the diamond-file to gently remove some tang-stop material.
(https://i.imgur.com/4qcaCRz.jpg)

Photo showing the new spring profile and position.
(https://i.imgur.com/DEq1ZDB.jpg)
Title: Re: PowerPint Overview Mighty Little MT
Post by: Sam Lim on March 10, 2019, 08:13:06 AM
 :like: amazing how they can pack so many implement in such a small package.
Title: Re: PowerPint Overview Mighty Little MT
Post by: roamingcat on March 10, 2019, 10:11:17 AM
gerleatherberman,

This is amazing :like:, and thank you for sharing your excellent ideas and improvements it make to the PP (in particular the scissors)! Also, those excellent and clear photos certainly help me a lot to go ahead with mine.

With these mods in place, imo the PP is well placed to become the best single EDC available today (at least for me), As I said b4, the PP has all the great design features I always wanted for an EDC. If we can collectively improve upon the few shortcomings in its execution by way of mods then we are all set !
Title: Re: PowerPint Overview Mighty Little MT
Post by: gerleatherberman on March 10, 2019, 11:12:47 AM
gerleatherberman,

This is amazing :like:, and thank you for sharing your excellent ideas and improvements it make to the PP (in particular the scissors)! Also, those excellent and clear photos certainly help me a lot to go ahead with mine.

With these mods in place, imo the PP is well placed to become the best single EDC available today (at least for me), As I said b4, the PP has all the great design features I always wanted for an EDC. If we can collectively improve upon the few shortcomings in its execution by way of mods then we are all set !

You're quite welcome, and thank you again for posting your mod.  :salute:

Indeed, I think we can suss out some practical fixes for our Pints. The scissor work was primarily brought on by seeing several member's spring breaks. The fix is a bit of a pain-in-the-butt, but will be worth it if it works out in the long run. Right now I am involved in the Center-Drive challenge and may be participating in the Surge challenge next month, so won't be able to actually EDC the Pint for a while. However, I will try to brainstorm some ideas, in the rare event I have a complex thought.  :cheers:
Title: Re: PowerPint Overview Mighty Little MT
Post by: ReamerPunch on March 10, 2019, 11:37:24 AM
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roamingcat,

Good job and thank you for inspiring me to do some work on my Pint.

Made two different size flat drivers with the can opener and bottle opener. Used a fine wheel stone to get the sharp hollow-grind to make them bite. Did a similar mod to the awl that roamingcat did, where I lower the tip angle to avoid it catching my pocket/hand. Then used a hand diamond-file to file the back of the scissor spring where the spring tang touches the frame when engaged. Ground the semi-circle spring tip down to lessen the distance needed to squeeze. All in all the scissors are notably more functional(being easier to squeeze) and will be less likely to break(the spring doesn't exert as much force).

Used a sharpie to show how far I wanted to go.
(https://i.imgur.com/YBXR1KO.jpg)

After the grinding work on openers and awl.
(https://i.imgur.com/u8EBQ17.jpg)

Four good drivers now.  :)
(https://i.imgur.com/0DESqos.jpg)

See how I moved the leaf spring out and up to work on it.
This is when I used the diamond-file to gently remove some tang-stop material.
(https://i.imgur.com/4qcaCRz.jpg)

Photo showing the new spring profile and position.
(https://i.imgur.com/DEq1ZDB.jpg)

Great work.  :like:
Why did the openers not come like that! :rant:
Title: Re: PowerPint Overview Mighty Little MT
Post by: gerleatherberman on March 10, 2019, 11:42:49 AM
Great work.  :like:
Why did the openers not come like that! :rant:
Thank you, RP! :cheers:

What is really crazy is that I only spent a couple of minutes grinding and smoothing the tools. A trained factory worker could have done the same thing in a few seconds(and a computerized machine could probably have ground hundreds at a time for a few seconds).  :dunno:
The tools have room for nail nicks as well.  :-\
Title: Re: PowerPint Overview Mighty Little MT
Post by: roamingcat on March 15, 2019, 05:06:33 AM
My mods so far (from left to right):-
1. Bottle opener "nipple" converted to "large" flat head screwdriver/pryer
2. Can opener "nipple" converted to "medium" flat head screw driver
3. Hook cutter back sharpened for use as a scraper
4. Back of awl filed down to minimize risk of cutting my finger when using main blade
5. Filer tip converted to scraper
I want to thank all the posters in this thread for sharing their ideas. Very tempted to do the scissors mod too but want to practice more on my dremel skills first!

Very interested to see what mods other posters have done so far to their Pints too!

(Together, lets make it a Perfect Pint  :cheers:)
Title: Re: PowerPint Overview Mighty Little MT
Post by: Sam Lim on March 15, 2019, 05:28:55 AM
My mods so far (from left to right):-
1. Bottle opener "nipple" converted to "large" flat head screwdriver/pryer
2. Can opener "nipple" converted to "medium" flat head screw driver
3. Hook cutter back sharpened for use as a scraper
4. Back of awl filed down to minimize risk of cutting my finger when using main blade
5. Filer tip converted to scraper
I want to thank all the posters in this thread for sharing their ideas. Very tempted to do the scissors mod too but want to practice more on my dremel skills first!

Very interested to see what mods other posters have done so far to their Pints too!

(Together, lets make it a Perfect Pint  :cheers:)

That's alot of improvements from the original design RC!  :like: I would really like to incorporate some kind of swing lock for the handles.. The pocket clip is on the wrong end and the handles keeps opening up in my pocket..
Title: Re: PowerPint Overview Mighty Little MT
Post by: gerleatherberman on March 15, 2019, 06:47:20 AM
Sam,
Can you tighten the pliers mount screws anymore than they are(I know some SOG models have pins that are bottomed out)? That is how I got mine to stop opening in my pocket.  :dunno:
Title: Re: PowerPint Overview Mighty Little MT
Post by: Sam Lim on March 15, 2019, 07:52:51 AM
Sam,
Can you tighten the pliers mount screws anymore than they are(I know some SOG models have pins that are bottomed out)? That is how I got mine to stop opening in my pocket.  :dunno:

But I like to flik the pliers open and bash my knuckles a little..  :D
Title: Re: PowerPint Overview Mighty Little MT
Post by: gerleatherberman on March 15, 2019, 02:28:58 PM
But I like to flik the pliers open and bash my knuckles a little..  :D
:rofl:
Fair enough.
Title: Re: PowerPint Overview Mighty Little MT
Post by: roamingcat on March 16, 2019, 03:26:10 AM
That's alot of improvements from the original design RC!  :like: I would really like to incorporate some kind of swing lock for the handles.. The pocket clip is on the wrong end and the handles keeps opening up in my pocket..

Thanks Sam. Regarding the lock for the handles, would cutting a notch out of the lanyard ring and right handle (as per diagram) work?

Also, how straight forward is it when reassembling the springs? Does it require any 'tricks' like the LM Juice to put the springs back in place?

Thanks.
Title: Re: PowerPint Overview Mighty Little MT
Post by: ReamerPunch on March 16, 2019, 04:22:12 AM
Something like the Kershaw A100's would work, maybe on the other side of where the Pint's pocket-clip is.
put a latch on one screw, and have a narrow washer to lift the screw's head, so the latch can hook it.

(https://i.imgur.com/Gnn00ox.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/onZp7LS.jpg)
Title: Re: PowerPint Overview Mighty Little MT
Post by: ReamerPunch on March 16, 2019, 04:23:34 AM
I would really like to incorporate some kind of swing lock for the handles..

 :popcorn:
Show us how it's done, Sam. :cheers:
Title: Re: PowerPint Overview Mighty Little MT
Post by: roamingcat on March 16, 2019, 04:52:15 AM
Something like the Kershaw A100's would work, maybe on the other side of where the Pint's pocket-clip is.
put a latch on one screw, and have a narrow washer to lift the screw's head, so the latch can hook it.

This sounds like a good idea ReamerPunch! All we need is to source a suitable latch that will fit, if not it has to be custom-made?

Gosh, I wish SOG is listening !
Title: Re: PowerPint Overview Mighty Little MT
Post by: gerleatherberman on March 17, 2019, 09:55:08 PM
This sounds like a good idea ReamerPunch! All we need is to source a suitable latch that will fit, if not it has to be custom-made?

Gosh, I wish SOG is listening !
I think it would be easy to fabricate from some mild hardness  thinner gauge steel. Using a dremel and assorted cutting wheels and bits. And a lot of patience.  :ahhh
Title: Re: PowerPint Overview Mighty Little MT
Post by: roamingcat on March 18, 2019, 08:40:40 AM
I think it would be easy to fabricate from some mild hardness  thinner gauge steel. Using a dremel and assorted cutting wheels and bits. And a lot of patience.  :ahhh

Thanks for the tip! Has anyone disassembled the torx screws, took out the implements and put it all back together in their Pint yet? How easy/difficult is it to put the tension springs back together?
Title: Re: PowerPint Overview Mighty Little MT
Post by: gerleatherberman on March 18, 2019, 09:11:22 AM
Thanks for the tip! Has anyone disassembled the torx screws, took out the implements and put it all back together in their Pint yet? How easy/difficult is it to put the tension springs back together?
Anytime! Should be a fun project.  :cheers:
It is one of the easier tools to break down and put back together(relatively of course). The only issue I would mark as somewhat serious is the thin washers. Make sure they do back between the correct implements. The newer versions have better quality washers, but if you have an early Pint, they will be thin and flimsy. Just something to watch for.  :)
Title: Re: PowerPint Overview Mighty Little MT
Post by: Sam Lim on March 18, 2019, 10:09:37 AM
Anytime! Should be a fun project.  :cheers:
It is one of the easier tools to break down and put back together(relatively of course). The only issue I would mark as somewhat serious is the thin washers. Make sure they do back between the correct implements. The newer versions have better quality washers, but if you have an early Pint, they will be thin and flimsy. Just something to watch for.  :)

Like GLBM said. The spring does not post any problems. I think mine is a earlier version. The washers are a complete mess..  :facepalm:
Title: Re: PowerPint Overview Mighty Little MT
Post by: ReamerPunch on March 18, 2019, 10:50:28 AM
I hope SOG has been taking notes. :pok:
Title: Re: PowerPint Overview Mighty Little MT
Post by: roamingcat on March 18, 2019, 12:20:10 PM
Anytime! Should be a fun project.  :cheers:
It is one of the easier tools to break down and put back together(relatively of course). The only issue I would mark as somewhat serious is the thin washers. Make sure they do back between the correct implements. The newer versions have better quality washers, but if you have an early Pint, they will be thin and flimsy. Just something to watch for.  :)

Thanks guys for your advice  :salute:. I will take note and be extra careful with the washers. Fingers-crossed. :climber:
Title: Re: PowerPint Overview Mighty Little MT
Post by: tommywp on March 23, 2019, 01:55:22 AM
Great thread guys. Just coming across this now. Do any of you have a feel for whether Victorinox or Wenger tools might fit?
 :cheers:
Title: Re: PowerPint Overview Mighty Little MT
Post by: gerleatherberman on March 26, 2019, 04:19:20 AM
No idea about the Vic tools fitting, but thanks for the kind words, tommywp! :cheers:
Title: Re: PowerPint Overview Mighty Little MT
Post by: roamingcat on April 12, 2019, 01:11:28 PM
Not ideal, but a quick & dirty method to prevent the handles from opening while riding on the pocket clip. Cut out a U clip from a paper clip.

Title: Re: PowerPint Overview Mighty Little MT
Post by: gerleatherberman on April 12, 2019, 02:02:49 PM
Cool hack, roamingcat! :like:
Title: Re: PowerPint Overview Mighty Little MT
Post by: roamingcat on April 12, 2019, 03:13:21 PM
Cool hack, roamingcat! :like:

Thank you !  Applied the same hack to solve the same 'problem' of my LM Wave while I am at it.

Title: Re: PowerPint Overview Mighty Little MT
Post by: gerleatherberman on April 13, 2019, 06:54:42 AM
 :like:

A couple of questions though, if you don't mind?! Do you ever lose the clips? And how long does a nice one take to make?
Title: Re: PowerPint Overview Mighty Little MT
Post by: roamingcat on April 13, 2019, 10:43:05 AM
:like:

A couple of questions though, if you don't mind?! Do you ever lose the clips? And how long does a nice one take to make?

Sure, not at all. I haven't lost a clip yet, but it is mainly because I only had it for less than 24 hours and I haven't been carrying it around too much  :cheers: I agree with you it may be prone to loosing since there is no permanent attachment to the Pint. fyi I made the first u-clip in about a minute, and if I ever loose it I can re-make a replacement in less than a minute since I am already familiar with the overall shape. All that is required is a paper clip, 2 cuts + 2 bends (with one finger and one set of pliers) btw - I have further 'refined' the u-clip in the attached photo. It has worked well for me so far (within the last 24 hous or so).

Title: Re: PowerPint Overview Mighty Little MT
Post by: roamingcat on April 13, 2019, 10:46:04 AM
double post
Title: Re: PowerPint Overview Mighty Little MT
Post by: Wspeed on April 13, 2019, 12:44:53 PM
Great simple idea  :like: :tu:
Title: Re: PowerPint Overview Mighty Little MT
Post by: gerleatherberman on April 13, 2019, 01:52:44 PM
Sure, not at all. I haven't lost a clip yet, but it is mainly because I only had it for less than 24 hours and I haven't been carrying it around too much  :cheers: I agree with you it may be prone to loosing since there is no permanent attachment to the Pint. fyi I made the first u-clip in about a minute, and if I ever loose it I can re-make a replacement in less than a minute since I am already familiar with the overall shape. All that is required is a paper clip, 2 cuts + 2 bends (with one finger and one set of pliers) btw - I have further 'refined' the u-clip in the attached photo. It has worked well for me so far (within the last 24 hous or so).
Excellent. Thank you, RC! :cheers:

I may conjure up a few clips for some looser tools now. A minute or so seems like a fair compromise to keep certain tools from opening on the pocket. I have usually just over tightened pliers pivot bolts to keep them from opening, but flipping MTs open when they arw looser. :)
Title: Re: PowerPint Overview Mighty Little MT
Post by: DeezNittles on April 13, 2019, 09:12:40 PM
I want to love this tool so badly... perfect size, good tool selection (short of flat head drivers)... but the small flathead that is onboard bends at will and is seemingly made of pot metal... the scissors leave a lot to be desired as well... I am in love with the design, just wish it was executed better!
Title: Re: PowerPint Overview Mighty Little MT
Post by: powernoodle on April 14, 2019, 12:18:47 AM
The last SOG MT I bought, and I don't even remember the name [it was the PowerAccess], was so poorly made that I dropped out of an MTO Challenge and returned the thing to Amazon. The "file" was as smooth as a baby's rump, and the whole thing was just flimsy and cheap.
Title: Re: PowerPint Overview Mighty Little MT
Post by: gerleatherberman on April 14, 2019, 03:34:47 AM
I want to love this tool so badly... perfect size, good tool selection (short of flat head drivers)... but the small flathead that is onboard bends at will and is seemingly made of pot metal... the scissors leave a lot to be desired as well... I am in love with the design, just wish it was executed better!
I have not experienced any driver bending yet, but will watch for it. Thanks for the input, Nittles! :cheers:
Title: Re: PowerPint Overview Mighty Little MT
Post by: gerleatherberman on April 14, 2019, 03:42:53 AM
The last SOG MT I bought, and I don't even remember the name [it was the PowerAccess], was so poorly made that I dropped out of an MTO Challenge and returned the thing to Amazon. The "file" was as smooth as a baby's rump, and the whole thing was just flimsy and cheap.
Indeed. I did have fun smearing mayonnaise on bread with the file though.  :rofl:

Here is the PowerAccess Deluxe/PowerAccess challenge thread for anyone interested in our observations of its' performance.  :)
https://forum.multitool.org/index.php/topic,77168.60.html

That said, and I'm being honest, it would be nice to keep this thread about the PowerPint and ideas to improve the function of it. :)
Title: Re: PowerPint Overview Mighty Little MT
Post by: theonew on April 15, 2019, 01:47:50 AM
The last SOG MT I bought, and I don't even remember the name [it was the PowerAccess], was so poorly made that I dropped out of an MTO Challenge and returned the thing to Amazon. The "file" was as smooth as a baby's rump, and the whole thing was just flimsy and cheap.

When the PowerPint was annouced I was pretty sure I would get one but held off waiting to hear some reports. I no longer intend to get one because I expect to be disappointed and I'm not all the picky. SOG has some great ideas and clever designs but they seriously need to up their manufacturing game before I will ever buy again.
Title: Re: PowerPint Overview Mighty Little MT
Post by: Sam Lim on April 15, 2019, 06:29:56 AM
The last SOG MT I bought, and I don't even remember the name [it was the PowerAccess], was so poorly made that I dropped out of an MTO Challenge and returned the thing to Amazon. The "file" was as smooth as a baby's rump, and the whole thing was just flimsy and cheap.

I may be the odd one to like the file on the Pint. Tool this size, I wouldn't expect it to file hard stuffs. Able to round off plastic or wood is good enough. Works best for manicure. Great pocket nail file for touching up.  :tu:
Title: Re: PowerPint Overview Mighty Little MT
Post by: roamingcat on April 15, 2019, 10:31:34 AM
Inspired by the new LM Free, I found a 1mm magnet and used it as a stopper to the handles from opening. A slightly more 'elegant' solution to the 'paper clip' method imo.


Title: Re: PowerPint Overview Mighty Little MT
Post by: gerleatherberman on April 15, 2019, 05:44:46 PM
 :o
Very very cool, RC! :like:

What kind of magnet did you use for the mod?
Title: Re: PowerPint Overview Mighty Little MT
Post by: roamingcat on April 16, 2019, 03:45:50 AM
:o
Very very cool, RC! :like:

What kind of magnet did you use for the mod?

For the Pint, I used one 10 x 1mm round magnet. For the LM Wave, I used 2 small 3 x 1.5mm round magnets. I applied double-sided adhesive tape to one side of the magnet to secure it from moving. These are very strong magnets, together with the double-sided adhesive tape I find it very secure and greatly minimize the risk of loosing it.

If you cannot find some spare magnets already stuck on your fridge that you can use, you should be able to source some from your local hardware store or from Amazon. Just do a search for, say, 1mm magnet and there are plenty of choices of many different shapes and sizes.

I am quite happy with the result as it requires almost no effort to fix the issue of the loose handles from opening up.
Title: Re: PowerPint Overview Mighty Little MT
Post by: gerleatherberman on April 16, 2019, 05:42:35 AM
Thanks for the explanation, RC!  :cheers:  :like:
Title: Re: PowerPint Overview Mighty Little MT
Post by: Sam Lim on April 17, 2019, 09:34:15 AM
Thanks for the explanation RC! :tu: Great to know that other members are trying to improve on this little but mighty MT.  :salute:

I thought up with a mechanical solution for this. A locking latch, beta stage. It somewhat resembles a horse head..  :facepalm: but works wonderfully.

Down side, the tools on the swinging latch side cannot open when the latch is engaged due to the locking tab cannot extend backwards. No biggie. The latched side open with no issue.

Pics below on how it latches.

Latch click into place.
(https://i.imgur.com/4nba5Qm.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/EQKPval.jpg)

I have to modify a thicker washer with thinner "walls" to allow the latch to enter.
(https://i.imgur.com/5bT4ieS.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/gatymep.jpg)

Latched side, tools deploys no issue.
(https://i.imgur.com/7xtXBR3.jpg)

For now, when unused, it disappears into the frame so I have to open up the other tools to dig it out. Doesn't really bother me yet.
(https://i.imgur.com/pz5FTNv.jpg)

Where this part came from? The clip is not tempered and can bend to ridiculous shapes without breaking. Using the larger hole for the pivot. I hate drilling... :P
(https://i.imgur.com/m8jmIge.jpg)

 :cheers:



 
Title: Re: PowerPint Overview Mighty Little MT
Post by: gerleatherberman on April 17, 2019, 11:56:11 AM
Wonderful solution, Sam! :salute:

Looks like how SOG should have done it at the factory. I like it better than the PowerLitre latch, and I like the PowerLitre latch. :like:
Title: Re: PowerPint Overview Mighty Little MT
Post by: Sam Lim on April 17, 2019, 12:05:20 PM
Wonderful solution, Sam! :salute:

Looks like how SOG should have done it at the factory. I like it better than the PowerLitre latch, and I like the PowerLitre latch. :like:

 :salute: could u snap a pic for the latch on the PL? I can't see it on all the stock photos.  :salute:
Title: Re: PowerPint Overview Mighty Little MT
Post by: gerleatherberman on April 17, 2019, 12:09:45 PM
It is somewhere in the photos I took for this thread.
https://forum.multitool.org/index.php/topic,78899.msg1777635.html#msg1777635

 :tu:
Title: Re: PowerPint Overview Mighty Little MT
Post by: Sam Lim on April 17, 2019, 12:32:08 PM
It is somewhere in the photos I took for this thread.
https://forum.multitool.org/index.php/topic,78899.msg1777635.html#msg1777635

 :tu:

Just saw that!  :salute: thanks! Is that plastic?
Title: Re: PowerPint Overview Mighty Little MT
Post by: ReamerPunch on April 17, 2019, 02:09:55 PM
Great work as always, Sam! :like:
Title: Re: PowerPint Overview Mighty Little MT
Post by: Sam Lim on April 17, 2019, 03:05:48 PM
Great work as always, Sam! :like:

 :hatsoff: fun things to do!
Title: Re: PowerPint Overview Mighty Little MT
Post by: gerleatherberman on April 17, 2019, 03:06:11 PM
Just saw that!  :salute: thanks! Is that plastic?
All metal. But, what kind of metal? I am not sure. :think:
Feels sturdy though. :)

Title: Re: PowerPint Overview Mighty Little MT
Post by: Sam Lim on April 17, 2019, 03:30:08 PM
All metal. But, what kind of metal? I am not sure. :think:
Feels sturdy though. :)

 :tu: all along I thought that was a foil cutter..  :facepalm:
Title: Re: PowerPint Overview Mighty Little MT
Post by: roamingcat on April 17, 2019, 04:51:25 PM
Great work Sam, and thank you for sharing !  :like: Can you tell us a little bit more how you converted from the clip to the latch? Did you have to cut out/ fabricate the metal clip to the shape of the latch, and if so, how did you do it? Or if I misunderstood it completely for which I apologize !
Title: Re: PowerPint Overview Mighty Little MT
Post by: Sam Lim on April 17, 2019, 05:28:27 PM
Great work Sam, and thank you for sharing !  :like: Can you tell us a little bit more how you converted from the clip to the latch? Did you have to cut out/ fabricate the metal clip to the shape of the latch, and if so, how did you do it? Or if I misunderstood it completely for which I apologize !

Yes u are right! Its a cut out from the clip. I have a strange habit of using weird things...  :facepalm: Flatten the clip first, fit the larger hole into pivot. Stare at it for a while. Using the standard eyeball gauge, go trigger happy with the dremel.
Title: Re: PowerPint Overview Mighty Little MT
Post by: ReamerPunch on April 17, 2019, 08:42:07 PM
Thanks for the pic, Sam.
I hope SOG has been following this thread.  :cheers:
Title: Re: PowerPint Overview Mighty Little MT
Post by: roamingcat on April 18, 2019, 03:22:35 AM
Thank you Sam  :like:

I think this forum should send SOG a bill for "Professional Advice for Product Improvement for the Pint" !

If SOG can release a Pint version 2 with all the improvements as noted above I think it would become a killer EDC.  I am happy to purchase it again, even if they have to charge a little bit more.
Title: Re: PowerPint Overview Mighty Little MT
Post by: Sam Lim on April 18, 2019, 04:14:38 AM
Thank you Sam  :like:

I think this forum should send SOG a bill for "Professional Advice for Product Improvement for the Pint" !

If SOG can release a Pint version 2 with all the improvements as noted above I think it would become a killer EDC.  I am happy to purchase it again, even if they have to charge a little bit more.

They didn't think though the design.. The power access was right in all ways. Pocket clip on the right end and the lock tabs are recessed. Whoever designed the pint made the same mistake for deluxe, play and grab..  :facepalm:
Title: Re: PowerPint Overview Mighty Little MT
Post by: Sam Lim on April 18, 2019, 04:18:14 AM
Thanks for the pic, Sam.
I hope SOG has been following this thread.  :cheers:

 :salute: :salute: pretty sure someone from there is in here. Stalking..  :pok:
Title: Re: PowerPint Overview Mighty Little MT
Post by: roamingcat on May 01, 2019, 03:57:21 PM
I've put together a mini bit kit to extend the capability of our nimble Pint.
Title: Re: PowerPint Overview Mighty Little MT
Post by: gerleatherberman on May 02, 2019, 06:23:26 AM
I've put together a mini bit kit to extend the capability of our nimble Pint.
Very nice setup, roamingcat!  :like:
Title: Re: PowerPint Overview Mighty Little MT
Post by: roamingcat on May 02, 2019, 06:59:30 AM
Thank you GLBM ! I am working on your scissors mod for the Pint, hopefully I'll get there soon :drink:
Title: Re: PowerPint Overview Mighty Little MT
Post by: gerleatherberman on May 02, 2019, 07:13:39 AM
Thank you GLBM ! I am working on your scissors mod for the Pint, hopefully I'll get there soon :drink:
Looking forward to see what you come up with, RC! I keep hoping SOG will make another version of the Pint, but with the Litre's swing latch, nice scissors, and driver-tips(like the ones we did) on the openers. But, that said, not gonna hold my breath on that one.  :ahhh
Title: Re: PowerPint Overview Mighty Little MT
Post by: roamingcat on May 02, 2019, 10:18:53 AM
Looking forward to see what you come up with, RC! I keep hoping SOG will make another version of the Pint, but with the Litre's swing latch, nice scissors, and driver-tips(like the ones we did) on the openers. But, that said, not gonna hold my breath on that one.  :ahhh

 :iagree: I very much look forward to PP version 2. I think it would be a killer edc, at least it would be for me. I finally went ahead with the scissors mod. I was only able to hand file down the tang a little bit, so not quite as good as yours. But I can see it does ease the spring tension a bit so hopefully it gives it more longevity. Thanks again for the idea. :salute:
Title: Re: PowerPint Overview Mighty Little MT
Post by: gerleatherberman on May 02, 2019, 02:23:16 PM
:iagree: I very much look forward to PP version 2. I think it would be a killer edc, at least it would be for me. I finally went ahead with the scissors mod. I was only able to hand file down the tang a little bit, so not quite as good as yours. But I can see it does ease the spring tension a bit so hopefully it gives it more longevity. Thanks again for the idea. :salute:
Very nice. And you're certainly welcome.
Glad it feels more reliable thay way. Definitely a mod worth its' weight in gold.  :cheers:
It amazes me, that with this thread being such a resource for future SOG design, that SOG representatives aren't clamoring to do these mods as updates. Thank you again for getting the ball rolling with the driver mod. :)
Title: Re: PowerPint Overview Mighty Little MT
Post by: The_Raven on June 18, 2019, 05:10:44 PM
Here's a question, do any MT's have a saw that could replace the file? I don't use files very much anyway, but I use saws surprisingly often.
Title: Re: PowerPint Overview Mighty Little MT
Post by: The_Raven on June 18, 2019, 05:12:33 PM
Also, would the power access be worth missing like this or is it just too much of a failure even as a base? I like the slightly larger size as the rebar seems to be the perfect size to me
Title: Re: PowerPint Overview Mighty Little MT
Post by: gerleatherberman on June 18, 2019, 06:40:44 PM
As far as I know, there isn't a drop in saw for the Pint. :(
It would be pretty short as well, since the compound leverage mechanism takes up some real estate in the handles. :ahhh

The PowerAccess and Access Deluxe are "like it or hate it tools."
My position is this: The PowerAccess(base model with pocket clip) is a good tool if you can find it for $30 or less. The Deluxe is a good tool if it can be found for $50 or less. Still probably a bit too expensive for their placement on MT hierarchy, but you do get good CS from SOG and they look nice. The Deluxe has a decent wood saw, but it is a bit on the short side. Well cut though and usable. The Access and Access Deluxe files have been pretty low-tier as far as I know, but it has been a while since anyone I know of has bought one. Hopefully SOG has since updated the file cut profile.  :dunno:
Title: Re: PowerPint Overview Mighty Little MT
Post by: The_Raven on June 18, 2019, 11:38:39 PM
So would the power access make a good base for modding, though? I like how useful this powerpint is with these mods, but would like a slightly bigger size. I know some of you have experience with both, and I'm just curious if there is something about the power access that wouldn't make it worth modding or prevent one from easily modding it. I'm sorry if I'm not being very clear in my questions :think:
Title: Re: PowerPint Overview Mighty Little MT
Post by: gerleatherberman on June 18, 2019, 11:46:56 PM
I see. It will depend on the variety of parts to mod with and the skill level of the modding. But, as far as I know, there are no drop in parts. Anything used as a part to mod with would need a tang large enough to shape to work. Then the pivot size may be wrong, where a bushing may need to be made if the modded part has a pivot to large, or you'll need to drill it out for a larger size. Best case scenario is the the implement you'd like to transplant has the sane pivot size and a large tang that can be profiled to fit.

So, in short, the Access is not an ideal tool for modding right now.
The PowerAccess Deluxe has a wood saw, so that may be a better start.
SOG's older models(PowerPlier, PocketPowerPlier, PowerLock, and PowerAssist) are compatible with some of the older Leatherman implements, and vice versa.
Title: Re: PowerPint Overview Mighty Little MT
Post by: leigh.ratcliffe.5 on July 11, 2019, 06:58:23 AM
I have one. I like it, however I would make the point that it is not a full sized tool. It's not as robust as a full sized tool, but it's much better than, for example, a PS4. The blades are very impressive, and as someone who wears glasses the jewlers  screwdriver  has proven an absolute Godsend.
Personally I find it a very useful accompliment to my SAK  Huntsman.

Huntsman,
Powerpint,
BIC lighter x 2.
AAA LED Maglite.
That's me good to go.
Title: Re: PowerPint Overview Mighty Little MT
Post by: gerleatherberman on July 11, 2019, 07:59:39 AM
I have one. I like it, however I would make the point that it is not a full sized tool. It's not as robust as a full sized tool, but it's much better than, for example, a PS4. The blades are very impressive, and as someone who wears glasses the jewlers  screwdriver  has proven an absolute Godsend.
Personally I find it a very useful accompliment to my SAK  Huntsman.

Huntsman,
Powerpint,
BIC lighter x 2.
AAA LED Maglite.
That's me good to go.
Nice setup of tools there for sure!  :like:

Title: Re: PowerPint Overview Mighty Little MT
Post by: ChopperCharles on May 26, 2020, 05:31:45 PM
Is it just me, or does the PowerLitre come with a lock to hold it closed?

Charles.
Title: Re: PowerPint Overview Mighty Little MT
Post by: ChopperCharles on July 14, 2020, 12:08:25 AM
Why the hate on the PowerAccess files? They work GREAT on metal. Not stainless (it will damage the file), but mild steel and aluminum are cut quickly and easily. The PowerPlay file, now *that* is a bad file. It's not even useful for fingernails.

Also... would it be possible to grind the bottle opener into a screwdriver blade? Might make it harder to open, but with clumping that's not really that big an issue.

Charles.
Title: Re: PowerPint Overview Mighty Little MT
Post by: ChopperCharles on July 14, 2020, 12:12:29 AM
I've put together a mini bit kit to extend the capability of our nimble Pint.

If you use the Victorinox bitdriver extension, it has a smooth flat shank without the cutout for quick-release holders. Meaning, there is more flat surface area inside the area that grips the bits, and it doesn't wobble as much.

Charles.
Title: Re: PowerPint Overview Mighty Little MT
Post by: Top-Gear-24 on January 05, 2021, 02:29:26 PM
Just discovered the SOG PowerPint at the local outdoorshop, and I thought it was strange that I'd never heard of it before...

When I got home I found this topic, that for some reason, I had missed completely 🙄.

Anyway, inspecting it at the outdoorshop I thought it looked like quite a decent tool in a small package.

So I thought, why not make the first tool I buy in 2021 a SOG (which is definitely a first for me, since I only own 3 other SOG products after 26 years of hoarding collecting multitools).

So here it is:

(https://i.imgur.com/e0N84kE.jpg)

And I must say, I'm surprised by the quality of this one.  I expected tools rubbing against the plier head, locks that needed a bit of adjusting, a PE blade that needed sharpening...

But turns out SOG has it all covered on this one, only thing I might mod is the spring on the scissors, just like GLBM did on his PowerPint.

I actually like this little tool 😁.
Title: Re: PowerPint Overview Mighty Little MT
Post by: masterjuggler on January 05, 2021, 05:00:30 PM
And I must say, I'm surprised by the quality of this one.  I expected tools rubbing against the plier head, locks that needed a bit of adjusting, a PE blade that needed sharpening...

But turns out SOG has it all covered on this one, only thing I might mod is the spring on the scissors, just like GLBM did on his PowerPint.

I actually like this little tool 😁.
How are the scissors on it?

I got the powerpint a year or two ago and really was not impressed. All the tools had some burrs on the edges that made it hard to get a tool out, and the scissors had some burr that made them catch while cutting, but I never could find out where to file it down. I ended up losing it when camping and didn't feel too bad, went back to a leatherman juice.

Maybe they raised the quality control? Anyone else have a good experience? Might have to try again at some point.
Title: Re: PowerPint Overview Mighty Little MT
Post by: King_Gorilla on February 08, 2021, 08:43:57 AM
I was thinking about getting one of these when they came out because I thought that the bid driver in the back of the plier head was a genius design.  But then before I bought one, I saw 4 or 5 video reviews on youtube that all said that the bit driver barely worked.  They all seemed to have issues with the bits spinning. 

I just read through all the pages on here and it doesn't seem like anyone was talking about that.  Do any of you that have the Power Pint, or any of the other similar SOG tools with that function, feel that the bit driver works well?
Title: Re: PowerPint Overview Mighty Little MT
Post by: Sven34 on January 25, 2024, 05:03:05 AM
Old thread I know, but I just bought my first Power Pint (not my first SOG) at Walmart the other day. I was not expecting great things given reported quality issues, however, the example I got is excellent in every way! I am very stoked about this little MT! The file on mine is excellently cut and very agressive. All the locking tools deploy nicely and snick into place. There is no blade rub, the pliers tips meet accurately, the scissors cut well, the blades are sharp and the other tools are well ground and sturdy for their size. Overall, I am very impressed! Perfect pocketable size, and great fidget factor. Just thought people might like to know it is worth trying again.
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Title: Re: PowerPint Overview Mighty Little MT
Post by: Barry Rowland on January 26, 2024, 02:30:43 AM
I've heard great things about them too Sven!  I keep hearing about quality issues with SOG but I've had great luck so far.  Post a picture when you can   :like:
Title: Re: PowerPint Overview Mighty Little MT
Post by: Sven34 on January 26, 2024, 03:42:07 AM
I got my first SOG, a PowerLock, 15 or so years ago on clearance at Lowes. I had been a dedicated Leatherman fan since my father got me a Leatherman Supertool in the late 80's while I was in High-school.  Hoewever, when I saw the pliers-head on the PowerLock, as well as the socket-driver, I was sold. I later bought a Switch-plier 2, and now the PowerPint. Going to try to attach some pictures of the PowerPint.
Cheers, Sven.
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Title: Re: PowerPint Overview Mighty Little MT
Post by: Sven34 on January 26, 2024, 04:05:43 AM
The file on this PowerPint really is excellent. The files on my old PowerLock and Switch-plier 2 are rather unimpressive, so I was delighted to find that the PowerPint's file is very good. Both the single-cut and the double-cut sides of the file will cut aluminum and mild steel, and it cleans up fingernails like a champ. The awl is very sharp, and even the jewelry driver looks precisely ground. The serrated blade is surprisingly similar in size and grind to the serrated blade on my Leatherman Crunch, and the PE blade is a nice, pointy wharncliffe, perfect for detail work and delicate tasks.
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Title: Re: PowerPint Overview Mighty Little MT
Post by: Barry Rowland on January 26, 2024, 05:51:53 PM
Looking good Sven!  I agree with you on those files.