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Non Tool Forum => The Break Room => Topic started by: Mike, Lord of the Spammers! on May 23, 2008, 11:21:19 PM
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Has anyone noticed themselves using foriegn words?, for instance I've notice a lot of non Brit's saying 'Mate' a lot recently :think:, And I've started calling torches flashlights!
And if you were to listen to me talking to some of my mates, you'd swear I was a boy from Jersey or something :D, Lot's of 'kinda's' and 'sorta' words being chucked into my sentences all the time now, which upsets my well spoken teacher Mum no end :D
So is it just me or have other people started adopting foriegn colloquialisms ::)
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I've always done a bit of that, but I work with Brits fairly often. I'm of British ancestry too, so there are some distant relatives that I communicate with. If most of the rednecks from my area of the country heard me call someone "mate", they would laugh their arses off.
I've always preferred most of the proper english spellings, but I have noticed that even how I greet people is different depending on where they come from. You will never hear an American say to another, "How 'ya gettin' on?", but I will say it to my UK acquaintances at work. I think it just adds to the comfort level somewhat.
It's funny that you mention it though, I've noticed it on other forums too. Especially when talking about EDC items, I notice Americans will now use the phrase "nice piece of kit", which I've never heard an American utter.
It's a good thing I think, but let's not pick up on any bad habits, OK? :P :D For instance, don't start saying "irregardless" when you mean "regardless". Another bad one here is the phrase, "I couldn't care less". Unfortunately, 90% of the American population gets it completely wrong and says, "I could care less".
BTW, you'll catch me saying "torch" too because, even though I'm American, I think the word "Flashlight" is a bit awkward.
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Well where do I start half the clowns that I deal with sound like they come from the Bronx with a strong Weedgie accent but as much as I hate it I have found myself using words such as elevator and flashlights
This country has absorbed a variety of things through the one eyed monster that is tv
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Oh trust me there's a few younger brit's who can't speak english either ::)
I guess that's the beauty of Forum's and the internet as a whole, as cheesy as it sound's, it does bring us all together and make us appreciate that we're not all so terribly different :)
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Well where do I start half the clowns that I deal with sound like they come from the Bronx with a strong Weedgie accent but as much as I hate it I have found myself using words such as elevator and flashlights
This country has absorbed a variety of things through the one eyed monster that is tv
:D, Thats also very true, but at least Edward Woodwood (weird name) did his bit for the english lanquage in the Equilizer :D
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I guess that's the beauty of Forum's and the internet as a whole, as cheesy as it sound's, it does bring us all together and make us appreciate that we're not all so terribly different :)
I think you've got it there. If we all spoke (typed?) exactly the same, I think we would all have a very difficult time figuring out the differences, wouldn't we?
Except for Def of course, I had him pegged for a Canuck right away. :D :P
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I guess that's the beauty of Forum's and the internet as a whole, as cheesy as it sound's, it does bring us all together and make us appreciate that we're not all so terribly different :)
I think you've got it there. If we all spoke (typed?) exactly the same, I think we would all have a very difficult time figuring out the differences, wouldn't we?
Except for Def of course, I had him pegged for a Canuck right away. :D :P
Yeah it's pretty easy to nail down who the Canucks are, there usually really slow typist's due to axe/finger related injuries :D
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Well where do I start half the clowns that I deal with sound like they come from the Bronx with a strong Weedgie accent but as much as I hate it I have found myself using words such as elevator and flashlights
This country has absorbed a variety of things through the one eyed monster that is tv
:D, Thats also very true, but at least Edward Woodwood (weird name) did his bit for the english lanquage in the Equilizer :D
You have to respect a fat old man who made a fortune out of American tv and turned some of our cousins into Anglophiles
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Mr Woodwood we salute you sir :salute: :D
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I do type mate quite a bit, but i don't say it very often. Just a quirk of mine i suppose. Torch is so much easier than flashlight (both to say and type :D ) but yeah there is a lot of borrowing of phrases from each other, which is fine by me :) I do have a bit of trouble putting down in letters sometimes what i'm trying to say, especially colloquialisms. Language is a strange thing!!
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I've learned several new British swear words. They come in handy at work, because no one else realizes they are swear words. :)
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I've learned several new British swear words. They come in handy at work, because no one else realizes they are swear words. :)
Glad to be off service Bob :D
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I always thought us Aussies held the copy right on "mate" :P
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I always thought us Aussies held the copy right on "mate" :P
Nope our criminals took it with them :D
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I don't use many foreign words, but I do speak "forum" quite a lot now.
For example "That's a POS!" has become a very popular phrase of mine. :D
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I always thought us Aussies held the copy right on "mate" :P
Nope our criminals took it with them :D
Criminals :o :o I thought my ancestors were political exiles :D :D. I do like to use "smurf" and "cobblers" , I think it comes from so much BBC on tv growing up , my boys use "sick" & "wicked", no chance of hearing them call anyone "govnor" which makes me a little :(
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I always thought us Aussies held the copy right on "mate" :P
Nope our criminals took it with them :D
Criminals :o :o I thought my ancestors were political exiles :D :D. I do like to use "Colorful Enunciation" and "cobblers" , I think it comes from so much BBC on tv growing up , my boys use "sick" & "wicked", no chance of hearing them call anyone "govnor" which makes me a little :(
You lot still say cobblers :D, wicked is probably my most used word :-[
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You lot still say cobblers :D, wicked is probably my most used word :-[
Anyone want to hazard a guess as to what mine is? :D
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Anyone want to hazard a guess as to what mine is? :D
"Yes dear" ...... :D
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Anyone want to hazard a guess as to what mine is? :D
"Yes dear" ...... :D
Sadly, that is probably very true. :D
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Aye, would be my guess :)
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Aye, would be my guess :)
Actually, aye is pretty common as well :D, but awesome is probably my most over used word.
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Aye, would be my guess :)
Actually, aye is pretty common as well :D, but awesome is probably my most over used word.
What are you, a Yank :D
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Aye, would be my guess :)
Actually, aye is pretty common as well :D, but awesome is probably my most over used word.
What are you, a Yank :D
Nothing wrong with the Yanks mate. :D
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0rYT0YvQ3hs
Say no more ;) :D
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0rYT0YvQ3hs
Say no more ;) :D
How come he gets to say "bol___ks" :D
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Because he's a comedy god, and we're not :D
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Though not language-oriented, I find I tend to bow a bit when meeting people- I think it's from all the Japanese films I've seen over the years :D ! I much prefer bowing to shaking hands- less germ transfer, sweaty palms and Johnny Steroids impressing you with his Grip of Steel. Being an Anglophile from the age of 6 or 7, I have the habit of using words like "daft" and "rotter." My weirdest is the frequent "Gott in Himmel!" I use that one especially when plumbing.
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My weirdest is the frequent "Gott in Himmel!" I use that one especially when plumbing.
Sound's like you've been reading lots of Commando Comics mate :D
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I don't believe that many of you ppl could understand me. Maybe Ducktapehero or ppl like that. I am from Southern U.S.
Tennessee to be exact (the Hills) My typing is a lot better sounding than my southern draw. Ppl from an hour or so away can't understand me sometimes, thanks goodness my typing is better. And I have had the urge to type "mate" a time or two myself in the short time I have been here :D My linguistics are still terrible I just know how to spell big words :D
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I don't believe that many of you ppl could understand me. Maybe Ducktapehero or ppl like that. I am from Southern U.S.
Tennessee to be exact (the Hills) My typing is a lot better sounding than my southern draw. Ppl from an hour or so away can't understand me sometimes, thanks goodness my typing is better. And I have had the urge to type "mate" a time or two myself in the short time I have been here :D My linguistics are still terrible I just know how to spell big words :D
Just as well your typing's ok then mate :D
We have the same problem here, we have so many dialects, and accent and in some places you may as well be speaking martian :D
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Thing is I can speak very clearly in my head but when it comes out I sound like a redneck hick :D just as long as I don't start answering myself in my head :ahhh I guess I'll be alright :D
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Because he's a comedy god, and we're not :D
Very kind of you Mike saying "we're not" and not "you are not" :( :P :D :D
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Because he's a comedy god, and we're not :D
Very kind of you Mike saying "we're not" and not "you are not" :( :P :D :D
I KNOW where my gift's lie :D
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Cor blimey govner , up the apples and pears ::) I try to come across correctly but dont go out of my way to . What you see is what you get . Flashlight is a big no for me . Its a torch . Isnt a flash light something that costs over a $100 ;) . I think I must of caught a few bad habits of the forums and my grammar is nothing to write home about .
Great thread . You blokes over the pond must think us Brits a funny lot :D
Dunc
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I'm not across the pond, and I think we're strange :D
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I'm not across the pond, and I think we're strange :D
No no we're normal, everyone else is strange ::) :D
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I'm not across the pond, and I think we're strange :D
No no we're normal, everyone else is strange ::) :D
Well your a lot smarter than me, so I guess your right :D
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Well America was a colony of us Brits so therefore we are the originals and they are the "new" versions. Ergo we are normal they are "different" (i.e. strange :D :P ) All simple logical steps!!
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Absolutely nothing to do with this thread. I just liked this picture. :D
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Well America was a colony of us Brits so therefore we are the originals and they are the "new" versions. Ergo we are normal they are "different" (i.e. strange :D :P ) All simple logical steps!!
Your logic is as ever impecable mate :D
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Poor pooch!! How could they do that to it!
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Your logic is as ever impecable mate :D
And i got to use the word "ergo" :D
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Double word score for Ryan :D
Btw my boy thinks the dog is dead funny :D
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Double word score for Ryan :D
Btw my boy thinks the dog is dead funny :D
And how old is Jack?
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Double word score for Ryan :D
Btw my boy thinks the dog is dead funny :D
And how old is Jack?
5 years 5 months :)
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Double word score for Ryan :D
Btw my boy thinks the dog is dead funny :D
And how old is Jack?
5 years 5 months :)
So my sense of humour is that of a 5 year olds then. :( I'd prefer to think that he is ahead of his time and has the sense of humour of a 23 year olds I think. :D
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Double word score for Ryan :D
And what do points make.....prizes!! Where's my prize :pok: :D
Btw my boy thinks the dog is dead funny :D
::) Childish sense of humour that kid :P
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Double word score for Ryan :D
Btw my boy thinks the dog is dead funny :D
And how old is Jack?
5 years 5 months :)
So my sense of humour is that of a 5 year olds then. :( I'd prefer to think that he is ahead of his time and has the sense of humour of a 23 year olds I think. :D
Were blokes, we don't have to grow up :D
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Double word score for Ryan :D
And what do points make.....prizes!! Where's my prize :pok: :D
Btw my boy thinks the dog is dead funny :D
::) Childish sense of humour that kid :P
Don't make me send him round to have a word with you >:( :D
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Double word score for Ryan :D
Btw my boy thinks the dog is dead funny :D
And how old is Jack?
5 years 5 months :)
So my sense of humour is that of a 5 year olds then. :( I'd prefer to think that he is ahead of his time and has the sense of humour of a 23 year olds I think. :D
Were blokes, we don't have to grow up :D
Phew! :D
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Don't make me send him round to have a word with you >:( :D
"Cry 'Havoc,' and let slip the kids of war" :D
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Don't make me send him round to have a word with you >:( :D
"Cry 'Havoc,' and let slip the kids of war" :D
Put it this way, we were having a bit of a play fight on saturday, and he got a tad carried away and punched me in the throat :o, and it still hurts to swallow now :D (proud, if battered daddy moment :D)
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Flashlight is a big no for me . Its a torch . Isnt a flash light something that costs over a $100 ;) .
BTW, "Torch" doesn't make sense to Americans because, to us, that word describes only something that emits flame.
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Flashlight is a big no for me . Its a torch . Isnt a flash light something that costs over a $100 ;) .
BTW, "Torch" doesn't make sense to Americans because, to us, that word describes only something that emits flame.
Neither does:
Chips
Crisps
Nappies
Fanny
Holiday
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Whiskey ;)
I bet you pronounce Multitool different to us too.........
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Flashlight is a big no for me . Its a torch . Isnt a flash light something that costs over a $100 ;) .
BTW, "Torch" doesn't make sense to Americans because, to us, that word describes only something that emits flame.
Neither does:
Chips
Crisps
Nappies
Fanny
Holiday
or
Whiskey ;)
I bet you pronounce Multitool different to us too.........
What like
Aluminium
Data
laboratory
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If you want to see something really funny whatch an American say ALOX :D
Bottom Video and watch the whole thing
http://www.guntalk.tv/gtv/library.php?category=47
Also at 4mins 27secs he mentions the Secret society :D
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If you want to see something really funny whatch an American say ALOX :D
Wow, never even thought to say it that way :think: :D
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Don't make me send him round to have a word with you >:( :D
"Cry 'Havoc,' and let slip the kids of war" :D
Put it this way, we were having a bit of a play fight on saturday, and he got a tad carried away and punched me in the throat :o, and it still hurts to swallow now :D (proud, if battered daddy moment :D)
I share your pain I was the victim of a big runny up one in the family allowance (god take the pain but leave the swelling please)
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Flashlight is a big no for me . Its a torch . Isnt a flash light something that costs over a $100 ;) .
BTW, "Torch" doesn't make sense to Americans because, to us, that word describes only something that emits flame.
Neither does:
Chips
Crisps
Nappies
Fanny
Holiday
or
Whiskey ;)
I bet you pronounce Multitool different to us too.........
I was only explaining why we don't use the word in the same context. Most of those words make sense to me, but they may have different meanings--chips is a good example. I was not commenting on different pronunciations.
Pronunciations are another topic. Let's take ALOX for instance, since you mention it. ALOX is an abbreviation for "aluminum (or aluminium) oxide". So, the pronunciation should be AL from aluminium + OX from oxide. Or, in other words, AL as in Alfred, + Ox as in oxen. I can't view videos at work, so I'm not sure what Dunc is referring to above, or how that particular American pronounced it.
Pronunciations cannot be generalized, as meanings usually can. For instance, you mentioned the word "data" and "multitool" above. Some Americans, such as myself, pronounce it as "dayta" (with "long a" sound), some don't. Some Americans, such as myself, also pronounce "multi" as multee, some don't. There are separate dialects here too, but they aren't as numerous as they are in the UK. Who is to say which pronunciation is right or wrong?
On the subject of torches--the "flashlight" was invented in the US in the 1890's (patented in 1903). The term "flashlight" was used because the batteries available in 1903 were not powerful enough to give a long, steady stream of light. They were only powerful enough to light their energy-inefficient carbon filaments for brief "flashes".
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I find it interesting that Brit Sir Humphrey Davy discovered aluminum and named originally named it thus, a name which matches its Latin root. It wasn't until an anonymous contributor to the Quarterly Review read about the discovery and suggested the name aluminium be used instead, because it had a more "classical" sound.
At the time, the precedent naming convention of metals in the periodic chart ended in -ium. However, there have been numerous other metals since added to the chart ending in -um, such as platinum and molybdenum.
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I find it interesting that Brit Sir Humphrey Davy discovered aluminum and named originally named it thus, a name which matches its Latin root. It wasn't until an anonymous contributor to the Quarterly Review read about the discovery and suggested the name aluminium be used instead, because it had a more "classical" sound.
Now, I did not know that! I had heard of Sir Humphrey as the inventor of the "Davy Lamp", the saviour of many a coal-mining budgie.....
The periodic table names is an odd one isn't it? I wonder why one convention wasn't adopted, platinium or titanum just don't sound right do they?
I was only explaining why we don't use the word in the same context. Most of those words make sense to me, but they may have different meanings--chips is a good example. I was not commenting on different pronunciations.
Those examples do have different meanings though don't they?
At least, I know fanny does, and we're definitely not talking about the same thing when we say whiskey :angel:
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Those examples do have different meanings though don't they?
At least, I know fanny does, and we're definitely not talking about the same thing when we say whiskey :angel:
Chips
Crisps
Nappies
Fanny
Holiday
Yes, they're different. As you're probably aware we call crisps chips. We do have "fish and chips" on restaurant menus here though, and that is a commonly known term. We actually don't really have a term for what you call "chips"--the thickly-sliced fried potatoes, so we just call them "fried potatoes" or "potato wedges". We only use the term "fries" or "French fries" to specifically refer to long, slender sticks of fried potato. Why we give credit to the French for our fries is a mystery to me. :think: :D There are some brand names of snack crackers or chips that use the word "crisps" in the name, but it's not a common term. It's all pretty confusing, really.
Holiday is an interesting one. Our definition of holiday is the same as yours when we're talking about a national or religious holiday such as Christmas or Easter. However, when we take time off work to go on a personal trip, that's a vacation. I guess that's just an example of how different dialects add words to the language further differentiate terms.
Fanny definitely isn't the same. :P :D Somehow we got turned around the wrong way on that one!
I'm not sure what you mean about whiskey. I've always assumed when a Brit says "whiskey" he's talking about Scotch whiskey, which normally we would just call scotch. Of course there's also Irish whiskey, Tennessee whiskey, Canadian whiskey, bourbon whiskey (which we just call bourbon), etc. Do you have another definition of whiskey that I'm not aware of?
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I'm not aware of another use of whiskey other then Scotch whiskey.
Of course before I gave up smoking recently I loved a fag before I went to sleep , I inderstand that could get me funny looks in the states :o
Dunc
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I'm not aware of another use of whiskey other then Scotch whiskey.
Of course before I gave up smoking recently I loved a fag before I went to sleep , I inderstand that could get me funny looks in the states :o
Dunc
Insert snigger here..... :D
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I don't believe that many of you ppl could understand me. Maybe Ducktapehero or ppl like that. I am from Southern U.S.
Tennessee to be exact (the Hills) My typing is a lot better sounding than my southern draw.
I got a bit of a Southern drawl myself. I probably have a little western twang mixed in there too.
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I'm not aware of another use of whiskey other then Scotch whiskey.
Of course before I gave up smoking recently I loved a fag before I went to sleep , I inderstand that could get me funny looks in the states :o
Dunc
That's for sure. ;) Did you say you loved a fag? :D
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I belive he did :D
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I belive he did :D
I've also heard the term "blowing a fag". This is definitely a phrase you want to consider not using in the US. :D
Unless you're into that sort of thing, of course.
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I belive he did :D
I've also heard the term "blowing a fag". This is definitely a phrase you want to consider not using in the US. :D
Not without a flak jacket or two :D
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This is definitely a phrase you want to consider not using in the US.
He'd be OK if he did that in San Francisco. I wouldn't recommend doing it in Muscle Shoals Alabama.
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LOL. Good point.
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LOL
I was just being smart about the whiskey ;) I do enjoy my Scotch. Some Irish whiskeys are nice too, but I've never found an American whiskey to my taste (yet). Although to be fair, there's a fair few Scotches that are a bit rough too - so maybe I'm generalising a bit.
French fries is one of the most appropriate names I can think of. I've lived in France and they have chips with bloody anything. Despite the snobbery about good old British fish n chips, they have Moules et Frites, Steak Frites at some of the best restaurants!
I've no comment to make about having a pull on a fag......
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HAHAHHA LMAO
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I've no comment to make about having a pull on a fag......
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You should try Maker's Mark bourbon if you get a chance. Since you're a scotch drinker you may not like it, but it's the best I've found.
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You should have known that this discussion would have brought up things like this Micky D
I belive he did :D
I've also heard the term "blowing a fag". This is definitely a phrase you want to consider not using in the US. :D
Unless you're into that sort of thing, of course.
:D
I don't believe I'd bring that up anywhere :P
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But I am sure that we say things over here that would get us funny looks over there :D I just don't know what ::)
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I was wondering about that myself. :think:
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Have any of you across the big water, red anything that we have typed over here that would get us funny looks over there ? Cause if I am over there just the way I look could get me funny looks :o :D