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Outdoor Section => The Outdoor and Survival Forum => Topic started by: Mike, Lord of the Spammers! on December 28, 2008, 06:19:30 PM
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Right due to continued foot woes, and a point blank refusal on my part of get a tin top or motorbike, I'm going to need a cain to get about on if I've got to walk or stand for any significant period of time :(
But I know nothing about them, figuring at the tender age of 32 I'd not need one for a good few years at least >:(
What I want is a nice light cane, that can stand up to the occational wrapping around a bad guys skull :D, Ideally available this side of the pond too :)
And some sizing information would be great too :tu:
Thanks in advance fella's :)
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I don't know if it's available over there... but I always liked this one >:D
http://www.coldsteel.com/irishblackthorn.html
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Cold steel do an amazing City stick or for the more relaxed approach try their "Walkabout" :cheers:
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Hmm, how about something like this for Micky the old. :D
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I don't know if it's available over there... but I always liked this one >:D
http://www.coldsteel.com/irishblackthorn.html
Now that I like >:D
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Cold steel do an amazing City stick or for the more relaxed approach try their "Walkabout" :cheers:
Hmm that looks good too :)
Anything domestically though :think:
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Hmm, how about something like this for Micky the old. :D
Sod off :twak: :D
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I've used a cane on occasion (bad knees) and the best advice I could give is; don't get anything too heavy. You'll just end up resenting the fact that you are carting around the extra weight. Check out your local antiques and bric-a-brac shops, you might get a nice cane for £20-£30 as long as it hasn't got silver fittings.
BTW I just put my cane on the kitchen scales and it weighs in at less than 8oz. I still wouldn't want it wrapped round the side of my head. ;)
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For your academic enjoyment.
http://ejmas.com/jnc/jncart_barton-wright_0200.htm
I know some chaps that have worked with this system and have done some work on it myself and, despite the silly hats, it is a quite effective system.
Disclaimer: I will now point out that as a responsible Martial Arts instructor I do not recommend you carry anything with self defence in mind. It puts you on the wrong side of the law here in the UK. Sorry for the serious bit, normal service will resume shortly. :ahhh ;)
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What style of martial arts do you study? I have studied: Brazillian Jujitsu, Aikido, Judo (still studying), and Kenpo.. After years of martial art training, I would have to say Judo is my favorite!
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I bought a couple of cheap walking poles recently, as I have RA and had intended to take up walking with SWMBO. Although I've only managed to walk as far as the car so far, Gareth's point about weight sounds very valid.
I suppose for use about town etc, those colourful poles aren't really ideal.
I bought this kind of thing, but much cheaper until I know whether they would be much use to me:
(http://www.venturesport.co.uk/images/products/product_5857.gif)
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Leki and Komperdell are common manufacturers of trekking poles, which are infinitely adjustable with telescoping shafts. They're lightweight and collapse for easy loading into packs and cars. Usually you can find rubber tips for inside use.
If you're looking at this sort of option, I can highly recommend both companies.
No good as weapons however. :D
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Here ya go Micky... on your side of the pond too (I think)
http://www.midwayuk.com/apps/eproductpage.exe/showproduct?SaleItemID=246838
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ohh no! you think he was cocky before!
(http://i44.tinypic.com/auxd6s.jpg)
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For your academic enjoyment.
http://ejmas.com/jnc/jncart_barton-wright_0200.htm
I know some chaps that have worked with this system and have done some work on it myself and, despite the silly hats, it is a quite effective system.
Disclaimer: I will now point out that as a responsible Martial Arts instructor I do not recommend you carry anything with self defence in mind. It puts you on the wrong side of the law here in the UK. Sorry for the serious bit, normal service will resume shortly. :ahhh ;)
Great linky mate :) That's definetly being saved to favourites :)
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Here ya go Micky... on your side of the pond too (I think)
http://www.midwayuk.com/apps/eproductpage.exe/showproduct?SaleItemID=246838
Thanks for that mate, I'm just going to check with Flash the legal implications then I'll probably snag that one :tu:
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ohh no! you think he was cocky before!
(http://i44.tinypic.com/auxd6s.jpg)
Me and Miss Peel, I can live with that :drool:
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ohh no! you think he was cocky before!
(http://i44.tinypic.com/auxd6s.jpg)
Me and Miss Peel, I can live with that :drool:
Actually, that picture must be 40 years old, you might stand a chance with her now Mike :D
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For an older lass she's still not that bad now ;)
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Me wanteth >:D
http://www.coldsteel.com/citystick.html
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I'm sure this is not legal in UK, but maybe (just maybe >:D), you can consider using one of these!
http://www.topsknives.com/product_info.php?cPath=7&products_id=217
Carlos
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it's okay, Mike isn't legal in the UK either :P
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Nope not legal sadly Carlos :cry:
WD :twak: :twak: :D
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I got one of my walking sticks from a place in Scotland. (Proper Scotland, far west)
I don't know if there's still some bitterness there (everything I know of English history I learned from Braveheart) but you could try.
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Here is a legal question:
Could you carry a walking stick inside a commercial airliner without you having any medical condition?
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I don't know if there's still some bitterness there (everything I know of English history I learned from Braveheart) but you could try.
Lol. You won't surprised to hear that opinions of the historical accuracy of Gibson's "finest" work vary throughout the UK ;).
Personally, whilst our "northern neighbours" are turning out single malt whiskies the way they do, I shan't be severing trade links with them in the foreseeable future. Hic.
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BTW Mike what did you decide on :think: :D
(everything I know of English history I learned from Braveheart) but you could try.
Yeah pretty much the same here :D
Great movie on any account ;)
I have watched a few things on TV since then that have led me to believe that the greater part of it may be fiction though :o :D
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I have watched a few things on TV since then that have led me to believe that the greater part of it may be fiction though
I won't hear of it!
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I have watched a few things on TV since then that have led me to believe that the greater part of it may be fiction though
I won't hear of it!
::) :pok: It sure seemed that way when I watched the documentary on William Wallace :pok: :D
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BTW Mike what did you decide on :think: :D
(everything I know of English history I learned from Braveheart) but you could try.
Yeah pretty much the same here :D
Great movie on any account ;)
I have watched a few things on TV since then that have led me to believe that the greater part of it may be fiction though :o :D
Just got a cheapie adjustable steel one for now, as I'm waiting for some Hazel to season a bit first :)
I tell you what is a bugger though, none of the Cold Steel etc ones are long enough for me, and all seem to be made for people a good few inches shorter than I am >:(
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BTW Mike what did you decide on :think: :D
(everything I know of English history I learned from Braveheart) but you could try.
Yeah pretty much the same here :D
Great movie on any account ;)
I have watched a few things on TV since then that have led me to believe that the greater part of it may be fiction though :o :D
Just got a cheapie adjustable steel one for now, as I'm waiting for some Hazel to season a bit first :)
I tell you what is a bugger though, none of the Cold Steel etc ones are long enough for me, and all seem to be made for people a good few inches shorter than I am >:(
I forgot.....how tall are you?
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I got one of my walking sticks from a place in Scotland. (Proper Scotland, far west)
I don't know if there's still some bitterness there (everything I know of English history I learned from Braveheart) but you could try.
Being Scottish and a fan of my history I can reliably tell you about the only thing Mr Gibson got right was the mans name. ::) I genuinely believe that film set Scottish attitudes to England back by 100 years. I am very proud to call myself Scottish and am truly sorry to say that far to many here think that our defining characteristic is our hate of the English. A bit sad in the 21st Century don't you think?
That's better, rant over. :D
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I got one of my walking sticks from a place in Scotland. (Proper Scotland, far west)
I don't know if there's still some bitterness there (everything I know of English history I learned from Braveheart) but you could try.
Being Scottish and a fan of my history I can reliably tell you about the only thing Mr Gibson got right was the mans name. ::) I genuinely believe that film set Scottish attitudes to England back by 100 years. I am very proud to call myself Scottish and am truly sorry to say that far to many here think that our defining characteristic is our hate of the English. A bit sad in the 21st Century don't you think?
That's better, rant over. :D
Oh come on. You hate us still. Admit it :D
Whilst you are right, you can't deny that the film did do a some good for Scottish patriotism. Remember the football with all the Scotland fans with blue and white painted faces? I'm sure most of those guys didn't take it too seriously (I hope :o)
But that film was right up there with that film about the Odessa code in terms of historical accuracy :D
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BTW Mike what did you decide on :think: :D
(everything I know of English history I learned from Braveheart) but you could try.
Yeah pretty much the same here :D
Great movie on any account ;)
I have watched a few things on TV since then that have led me to believe that the greater part of it may be fiction though :o :D
Just got a cheapie adjustable steel one for now, as I'm waiting for some Hazel to season a bit first :)
I tell you what is a bugger though, none of the Cold Steel etc ones are long enough for me, and all seem to be made for people a good few inches shorter than I am >:(
I forgot.....how tall are you?
6 foot 2 :)
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I didn't know they stacked $**t that high. :P
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I didn't know they stacked $**t that high. :P
:D :D
Well you'd never be able to stack it that high, stumpy :twak:
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I could always use a step! :twak:
:D
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I could always use a step! :twak:
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Shouldn't that be step's :D
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BTW Mike what did you decide on :think: :D
(everything I know of English history I learned from Braveheart) but you could try.
Yeah pretty much the same here :D
Great movie on any account ;)
I have watched a few things on TV since then that have led me to believe that the greater part of it may be fiction though :o :D
Just got a cheapie adjustable steel one for now, as I'm waiting for some Hazel to season a bit first :)
I tell you what is a bugger though, none of the Cold Steel etc ones are long enough for me, and all seem to be made for people a good few inches shorter than I am >:(
I forgot.....how tall are you?
6 foot 2 :)
Benner....well done for catching my set up line ;)
Mickd....almost a respectable height there old bean
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BTW Mike what did you decide on :think: :D
(everything I know of English history I learned from Braveheart) but you could try.
Yeah pretty much the same here :D
Great movie on any account ;)
I have watched a few things on TV since then that have led me to believe that the greater part of it may be fiction though :o :D
Just got a cheapie adjustable steel one for now, as I'm waiting for some Hazel to season a bit first :)
I tell you what is a bugger though, none of the Cold Steel etc ones are long enough for me, and all seem to be made for people a good few inches shorter than I am >:(
I forgot.....how tall are you?
6 foot 2 :)
Benner....well done for catching my set up line ;)
Mickd....almost a respectable height there old bean
Yeah it's dead handy being 6 foot 2 when the worlds made for midgets ::) :D
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I got one of my walking sticks from a place in Scotland. (Proper Scotland, far west)
I don't know if there's still some bitterness there (everything I know of English history I learned from Braveheart) but you could try.
Being Scottish and a fan of my history I can reliably tell you about the only thing Mr Gibson got right was the mans name. ::) I genuinely believe that film set Scottish attitudes to England back by 100 years. I am very proud to call myself Scottish and am truly sorry to say that far to many here think that our defining characteristic is our hate of the English. A bit sad in the 21st Century don't you think?
That's better, rant over. :D
Oh come on. You hate us still. Admit it :D
Whilst you are right, you can't deny that the film did do a some good for Scottish patriotism. Remember the football with all the Scotland fans with blue and white painted faces? I'm sure most of those guys didn't take it too seriously (I hope :o)
But that film was right up there with that film about the Odessa code in terms of historical accuracy :D
Unfortunately for all to many people "Scottish Patriotism=Hating The English", and nothing more. Not true of all by any means but still far to common. >:(
On a lighter note am I going to be the short arse at the meet-up? I'm only 5' 11".
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Nope - you will be considerably taller than me!
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Don't know if this has already been mentioned, but it could prove a viable alternative, even in England.
http://www.real-self-defense.com/umbrella1.html
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Don't know if this has already been mentioned, but it could prove a viable alternative, even in England.
http://www.real-self-defense.com/umbrella1.html
I'm not sure of the legality of them over here ???
Gareth rest easy, your comfortably taller than half the midgets going :D
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I would suggest a simple wooden cane. A thin one would be lighter and faster to swing if you had to use it, while a heavier one would be slower, it would have less chance of breaking. It would also be better if you're a big guy. And I agree Gareth UK, you probably don't want a cane designed for self defense. It could make you look like you're looking for trouble. Plus, it's a bit of a waste of money. Any cane that is good and solid should work just fine.
As far as a heavy one being too much I carry a thick heavy hickory one and I have no trouble at all and I have chronic shoulder problems. But maybe if you're not used to it I can see where it might be a problem. I've been carrying a cane all the time for a year and a half now.
Here's some I found for you.
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Walking-cane-37-1-2-inches_W0QQitemZ260365645586QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_Antiques_Woodenware_RL?hash=item260365645586&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=72%3A1684%7C66%3A2%7C65%3A12%7C39%3A1%7C240%3A1318
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/NEW-Crook-Handled-Maple-Wood-Wooden-Cane-Walking-Stick_W0QQitemZ120384654958QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_Health_Beauty_Mobility_Disability_Medical_ET?hash=item120384654958&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=72%3A1684%7C66%3A2%7C65%3A12%7C39%3A1%7C240%3A1318
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/SUPPORT-WALKING-STICK-CRUTCH-HANDLE-FRAME-CANE-WALKER_W0QQitemZ150088063832QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_Health_Beauty_Mobility_Disability_Medical_ET?hash=item150088063832&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=72%3A1684%7C66%3A2%7C65%3A12%7C39%3A1%7C240%3A1318
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Wooden-Walking-Cane-Stick-Marbled-Black-Mobility-30089_W0QQitemZ160183115928QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_Health_Beauty_Mobility_Disability_Medical_ET?hash=item160183115928&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=72%3A1684%7C66%3A2%7C65%3A12%7C39%3A1%7C240%3A1318
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I got one of my walking sticks from a place in Scotland. (Proper Scotland, far west)
I don't know if there's still some bitterness there (everything I know of English history I learned from Braveheart) but you could try.
Being Scottish and a fan of my history I can reliably tell you about the only thing Mr Gibson got right was the mans name. ::) I genuinely believe that film set Scottish attitudes to England back by 100 years. I am very proud to call myself Scottish and am truly sorry to say that far to many here think that our defining characteristic is our hate of the English. A bit sad in the 21st Century don't you think?
That's better, rant over. :D
Oh come on. You hate us still. Admit it :D
Whilst you are right, you can't deny that the film did do a some good for Scottish patriotism. Remember the football with all the Scotland fans with blue and white painted faces? I'm sure most of those guys didn't take it too seriously (I hope :o)
But that film was right up there with that film about the Odessa code in terms of historical accuracy :D
Unfortunately for all to many people "Scottish Patriotism=Hating The English", and nothing more. Not true of all by any means but still far to common. >:(
On a lighter note am I going to be the short arse at the meet-up? I'm only 5' 11".
Nope, you're taller than me.
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I would suggest a simple wooden cane. A thin one would be lighter and faster to swing if you had to use it, while a heavier one would be slower, it would have less chance of breaking. It would also be better if you're a big guy. And I agree Gareth UK, you probably don't want a cane designed for self defense. It could make you look like you're looking for trouble. Plus, it's a bit of a waste of money. Any cane that is good and solid should work just fine.
As far as a heavy one being too much I carry a thick heavy hickory one and I have no trouble at all and I have chronic shoulder problems. But maybe if you're not used to it I can see where it might be a problem. I've been carrying a cane all the time for a year and a half now.
Here's some I found for you.
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Walking-cane-37-1-2-inches_W0QQitemZ260365645586QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_Antiques_Woodenware_RL?hash=item260365645586&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=72%3A1684%7C66%3A2%7C65%3A12%7C39%3A1%7C240%3A1318
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/NEW-Crook-Handled-Maple-Wood-Wooden-Cane-Walking-Stick_W0QQitemZ120384654958QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_Health_Beauty_Mobility_Disability_Medical_ET?hash=item120384654958&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=72%3A1684%7C66%3A2%7C65%3A12%7C39%3A1%7C240%3A1318
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/SUPPORT-WALKING-STICK-CRUTCH-HANDLE-FRAME-CANE-WALKER_W0QQitemZ150088063832QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_Health_Beauty_Mobility_Disability_Medical_ET?hash=item150088063832&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=72%3A1684%7C66%3A2%7C65%3A12%7C39%3A1%7C240%3A1318
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Wooden-Walking-Cane-Stick-Marbled-Black-Mobility-30089_W0QQitemZ160183115928QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_Health_Beauty_Mobility_Disability_Medical_ET?hash=item160183115928&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=72%3A1684%7C66%3A2%7C65%3A12%7C39%3A1%7C240%3A1318
Thanks fella :tu:
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No problem. Like multi-tools, canes are something which a person can become attached too. If you carry one everyday it becomes part of you and looking at them and reading about them is fun.
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No problem. Like multi-tools, canes are something which a person can become attached too. If you carry one everyday it becomes part of you and looking at them and reading about them is fun.
Trouble is I'm still in the denial I don't really need a cane phase ::)
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One other thought for something a little different: Go to Grivel's website and take a look around their ice axe offerings. You could put a rubber foot over the spike for indoor use...
Their actually quite comfortable.
www.grivel.com (http://www.grivel.com)
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What size of cane/stick do you need? I'll keep my eyes open.
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What size of cane/stick do you need? I'll keep my eyes open.
Thanks mate :tu:
About 39 inches :)
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You must be tall but with short arms.
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You must be tall but with short arms.
No I'm fairly normally proportioned :), I just got measured by the Podiatrist, and that's the length they said I needed to prevent damage to my hips :)
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I am 5'9'' so normally I should take an approximately 36" cane according to this website.
http://www.clearcanes.com/size.html
However I have really long arms so my cane is shorter. 33 inches
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I have been thinking about making a walking stick out bamboo you can buy it cheap at garden centers. You could cut it to any length you like. You could store stuff in the handle maybe use something like a champagne cork for a plug. Wrap the handle with para cord well you get the idea. I am sure you could think of lots of other things you could add. What do you think?
Mike
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One popular material for walking canes was known as Malacca. Basically a rattan, which is a grass. Just like bamboo. I have seen old bamboo canes as well so there is no reason it shouldn't work AFAIK. They never looked the most sturdy of things, but maybe it is deceptively strong. After all they use bamboo as scaffolding in China etc.
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I have been thinking about making a walking stick out bamboo you can buy it cheap at garden centers. You could cut it to any length you like. You could store stuff in the handle maybe use something like a champagne cork for a plug. Wrap the handle with para cord well you get the idea. I am sure you could think of lots of other things you could add. What do you think?
Mike
I'd be interested in some pictures when your finished mate :tu:
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I found a cane that might work for you. It's called a Hercules. It's 44 incheas long and cant be cut down to whatever length you need. It's designed for people who weight up to 500lbs so I'm assuming it's a STOUT cane. And it looks nothing like a "fighting cane" so if you needed to whack someone up side the head they couldn't say you bought a nasty looking cane with fangs and sharp edges.
Here it is
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Hercules-Mens-Extra-Wide-Derby-Cane-Harvy-Black_W0QQitemZ120247616933QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_0?hash=item120247616933&_trksid=p3286.m63.l1177
Here's a brown one.
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Mens-Hercules-Derby-Handle-Cane_W0QQitemZ270265796456QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_0?hash=item270265796456&_trksid=p3286.m63.l1177
I'm actually thinking about getting one of these. They look sweet, and they also look like they'd be comfortable to hold too. Something that is very important. Hope this helps.
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I think that look very good. Great find. :tu:
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I'm seriously thinking about getting one. Actually I'll probably get the brown one and if I like it I'll get the black one for formal occasions.
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Nice one DTH :tu:
They certainly look solid, and I do prefere that grip style :)
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Well I bought one of the Hercules canes off of ebay. I got the brown one. Hopefully it'll be here in a few days. I'll let y'all know how it is.
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Well the cane arrived today. This thing is sweet. It's a great STOUT cane that will serve me well but in no way does it look like a "fighting" or "self defense" cane. I am going to get the black one soon for formal occasions.
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I have been thinking about making a walking stick out bamboo you can buy it cheap at garden centers. You could cut it to any length you like. You could store stuff in the handle maybe use something like a champagne cork for a plug. Wrap the handle with para cord well you get the idea. I am sure you could think of lots of other things you could add. What do you think?
Used to carry a bamboo staff for hiking and backpacking about 5 feet long and 1.5 inch diameter.
Bamboo can make a great staff: lightweight, very strong, and surprisingly durable.
The bamboo for my staff, and several other staffs I made, came from a carpet store. Rolls of carpet used to be shipped from the factory wrapped around big bamboo poles (maybe they still are but haven't checked for years.) Some stores gave the bamboo away and other stores sold it for a few bucks.
Just find a piece of the diameter you prefer and cut it to a good length for you. It is important to cap the ends of your staff to prevent splitting. Those rubbery, slide-on caps sold for furniture legs work great for capping a bamboo staff. You'll probably need to go to a furniture store that offers a selection of caps to find the right size for your staff.
A tip for cutting your staff: choose a distance above one of the bamboo's rings so you will be left with a hollow compartment at the top of the staff of the length you desire.
I made the hollow storage compartment a little less than a foot long and capped it with a rubbery furniture cap to make it waterproof. Used it to carry cigars and matches.
I carried that same staff for years and loved it, but eventually gave it up for an ice axe.
The bamboo held up well despite lots of abuse: falling and sliding down rock faces, frequent submersion in water and mud, etc.
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Haven't seen you around for a while Ringzero. :)
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Haven't seen you around for a while Ringzero. :)
Hey, Benner. :>
Yeah, it's been quite a while since I posted anything here. But, I've still been dropping in a few times a week to keep up with developments on MTO.
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Haven't seen you around for a while Ringzero. :)
Hey, Benner. :>
Yeah, it's been quite a while since I posted anything here. But, I've still been dropping in a few times a week to keep up with developments on MTO.
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That's good to hear. :tu: It's good to see you back. :)
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Haven't seen you around for a while Ringzero. :)
Hey, Benner. :>
Yeah, it's been quite a while since I posted anything here. But, I've still been dropping in a few times a week to keep up with developments on MTO.
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That's good to hear. :tu: It's good to see you back. :)
Thanks, Benner. I've been kinda sidelined by some medical issues but am trying to get back into the swing of things.
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Nothing too serious I hope ???
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Nothing too serious I hope ???
Serious, but it could be worse.
"What can't be cured, must be endured."
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Sorry to hear that. :(
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Sorry to hear that. :(
Thanks for your concern, Benner - it's appreciated.
Now, on to a more pleasant topic: saw the recent pics of your wife and WOWSERS! You are a lucky guy, Benner. ;>
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What, because I own a Trailmaster?! :D I know, I love it. :D
She's ok too. ;)
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Good to see you back mate :)
And good on you for recycling the materials and using them for a cain :tu:
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What, because I own a Trailmaster?! :D I know, I love it. :D
She's ok too. ;)
Only OK?
Does she ever read any threads on MTO? If so, you'd best be a mite more careful what you write. ;P
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Luckily she doesn't. :D I would have been castrated long ago if she did.
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Luckily she doesn't. :D I would have been castrated long ago if she did.
That big Cold Steel blade could remove your whole package in just a fraction of a second.
IIRC, you have already replicated your DNA so the loss of a few nonessential parts shouldn't matter that much. ;P
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Luckily she doesn't. :D I would have been castrated long ago if she did.
That big Cold Steel blade could remove your whole package in just a fraction of a second.
I've just had a great idea for a trial at the UK meet next month......
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Good to see you back mate :)
And good on you for recycling the materials and using them for a cain :tu:
Hey, Micky d. :>
Can't take credit for the idea - it came directly from the Master Backpacker himself: Colin Fletcher. He described how to make a bamboo staff in "The Complete Walker" including checking carpet stores for surplus bamboo.
As decribed in "The Man Who Walked Through Time" and "Thousand Mile Summer" Fletcher's bamboo staff was a faithful companion throughout his hike down the length of the Grand Canyon, and for a thousand mile tramp along the West Coast of the US.
Try a bamboo staff, you'll like it.
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I may well give it a go :tu:
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Time to wake this thread up :pok:
As I'm getting fatter, older and slower I have started taking a walking stick with me when we walk the dog :-[
Here's a bit of Ash that I 'found' at this years meet
(http://i112.photobucket.com/albums/n184/sparky_415/stuff/Sticka.jpg)
Neil supplied me with the antler :salute:
and I copied Warriors link to the para-cord wrap :tu:
I wanted enough on the stick to make an emergency dog lead
(http://i112.photobucket.com/albums/n184/sparky_415/stuff/stickb.jpg)
I think I need one of those little skull beads or something to finish it of...... still thinking about that (suggestions?) :-\
(http://i112.photobucket.com/albums/n184/sparky_415/stuff/stickc.jpg)
:cheers:
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Cool :tu: I think a brass bead would work better personally.
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Yup, good idea waking up this thread. :tu: Anyhow, I like your ash, no wait that
doesn't sound right, nice wood! :think:
I've been getting into the stick and cane making lately just for fun. Here is a
bit of a crappy picture taken with my phone.
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They look great Sean :tu:
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Fine looking canes guys :salute:
I've been using a Vango walking pole atm because of my back, and find I get on with it much better than I do a walking stick :)
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Fine looking canes guys :salute:
I've been using a Vango walking pole atm because of my back, and find I get on with it much better than I do a walking stick :)
Mike
I have seen walkers using those poles for a while which was the reason I started using a stick
I'm finding it quite useful on hills/muddy bits
I was wondering about the length of this one, I have used it a few times whilst it was just a stick and it seems OK at 54'' / 137cms high but it can always get shorter
Brass beads :think:
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Thanks, Sparky & Mike. :)
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Interesting to find this post as it wasn't something I expected to see here. I usually have a stick with me while dog walking, I have a few, my favourite is a bit chewed, had it some years now. I have one fancy stick, landrover merchandise sassafras twisty hiking stick, will add some pics asap, its a nice stick but just not me, its been sat here for ages so this would be a great opportunity for a give away :tu:...its in fantastic condition, has a leather hand trap with seven types of tracking prints on it and a twisty carved spiral running most of its lenght, made by 'whistlecreek.com'. Will add pics and details of give away asap :salute:
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Whilst we're on the subject :)
I have recently developed arthritis in both my knees. As such a stick most of the time isn't much help but when its at its worst getting up can be a bit tricky and I've been thinking a collapsible stick might be a prudent bit of kit when out and about.
This is of course MTO and I won't be satisfied with a single use item ;) See I'm also after a monopod for the camera.
Any recommendations for a good monopod / walking stick? I see a lot of cheap ones from the low end camera accessory manufacturers but if they're of the same quality as their tripods I wouldn't trust them as a walking/standing aid.
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Whilst we're on the subject :)
I have recently developed arthritis in both my knees. As such a stick most of the time isn't much help but when its at its worst getting up can be a bit tricky and I've been thinking a collapsible stick might be a prudent bit of kit when out and about.
This is of course MTO and I won't be satisfied with a single use item ;) See I'm also after a monopod for the camera.
Any recommendations for a good monopod / walking stick? I see a lot of cheap ones from the low end camera accessory manufacturers but if they're of the same quality as their tripods I wouldn't trust them as a walking/standing aid.
Can't help with the monopod mate, but if you go for the hiking pole there's the stickpic if you turn the pole upside down. Never tried one but might be another option for you :think:
http://www.backpackinglight.co.uk/product445.asp?PageID=123 (http://www.backpackinglight.co.uk/product445.asp?PageID=123)
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I've got an old lightweight hiking pole in the car and a less grubby fold up black stick for smarter occasions. Always need one around just in case these days.
Re brass beads.... 6mm compression olives from a plumbing suppliers ;)
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Ebay have some, various styles and prices. The collapsible ones are ok if you want something that can be packed away but personally I'd buy the screw adaptor bit and modify a wooden stick, they are available, just can't find the darn link I had :think: Collapsible ones, unless you can find a really well made one are, in my opinion, not worth while, just something else to wear out and probably just when you really need it, like at the top of the stairs :o Get a solid stick :tu:
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I was in two minds weather to post about a walking stick :-\
Glad I did now :tu:
@Nuphoria
Thanks Chrissy, I wonder whats in my 'plumbing bits box' :think:
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Found a couple links and review of this thing, pricey but strong, its a combination mono/tripod. I still like my solid wooden stick :tu:
http://www.trek-tech.com/ (http://www.trek-tech.com/)
http://www.urban75.org/photos/trek-tech-trekpod-walk-tripod.html (http://www.urban75.org/photos/trek-tech-trekpod-walk-tripod.html)
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I found this attachment, I don't know if it fits on other poles :-\
http://www.walkandtravel.com/products/detail.asp?193,0,0,43,15 (http://www.walkandtravel.com/products/detail.asp?193,0,0,43,15)
Lots of stick stuff here :drool:
http://www.thestickman.co.uk/index.htm (http://www.thestickman.co.uk/index.htm)
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i know it will be a bit pricey, but id seriously think about a manfrotto one if you do go that route, my tripod by them is super sturdy
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Whilst we're on the subject :)
I have recently developed arthritis in both my knees. As such a stick most of the time isn't much help but when its at its worst getting up can be a bit tricky and I've been thinking a collapsible stick might be a prudent bit of kit when out and about.
This is of course MTO and I won't be satisfied with a single use item ;) See I'm also after a monopod for the camera.
Any recommendations for a good monopod / walking stick? I see a lot of cheap ones from the low end camera accessory manufacturers but if they're of the same quality as their tripods I wouldn't trust them as a walking/standing aid.
Did see this one over on 7day shop recently http://www.7dayshop.com/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=110432 (http://www.7dayshop.com/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=110432) I can's say if it's any good or not though :-\
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Kinda crude photos but here's my old walking stick.
(http://i808.photobucket.com/albums/zz5/tattoosteve99/006.jpg)
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Steve,
Any hidden, folding, multi use bits built in or hanging from it that I can copy?
:cheers:
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Looks like a good sturdy stick there Steve. Any idea on the wood used? :)
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Solid looking stick, anyone else find taking pics of sticks is not as easy as you'd think :think: Go here for a chance to win a stick http://forum.multitool.org/index.php/topic,32414.msg533521.html#new (http://forum.multitool.org/index.php/topic,32414.msg533521.html#new) :tu:
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My son and I used to go geocaching a lot, so I make a hiking staff based on this one.
http://www.backpacking.net/makegear/hiking-staff/index.html (http://www.backpacking.net/makegear/hiking-staff/index.html)
I get a pic up soon.
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Nice stick!
Personally, I want one of the Cold Steel heavy duty sword canes! >:D I know it'd make me look like an old man, but you gotta love the 24" double edged sword blade they have!
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Here is my stash of walking sticks and canes.
(http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r207/Chako_photo/Album%202/SAM_1274small.jpg)
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Nice collection of interesting looking sticks there Chako
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Whilst we're on the subject :)
I have recently developed arthritis in both my knees. As such a stick most of the time isn't much help but when its at its worst getting up can be a bit tricky and I've been thinking a collapsible stick might be a prudent bit of kit when out and about.
This is of course MTO and I won't be satisfied with a single use item ;) See I'm also after a monopod for the camera.
Any recommendations for a good monopod / walking stick? I see a lot of cheap ones from the low end camera accessory manufacturers but if they're of the same quality as their tripods I wouldn't trust them as a walking/standing aid.
Did see this one over on 7day shop recently http://www.7dayshop.com/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=110432 (http://www.7dayshop.com/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=110432) I can's say if it's any good or not though :-\
Max weight 0.35 kg
Doesn't install much faith in it for me
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Thanks Sparky415.
I figure I have something for any occasion. :D
Neil, I would go with a Manfrotto Pro 055 Monopod. Built like a tank and will act as an excellent walking staff (I know from experience using one as such). Just be sure to get the 3 fold version and not the 4.
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Thanks for all the ideas. There does seem to be alot of more affordable ones that as Ryan put it, don't inspire much faith and then there's a big price jump to the more substantial ones. Given that the more substantial ones are out of my price range right now, I figure I'll wait and see how I get on. If I get desperate I'll go hack a limb of some unfortunate tree in the wood up the road :P
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Steve,
Any hidden, folding, multi use bits built in or hanging from it that I can copy?
:cheers:
Mmm if I told u I'd have to.....uhh maybe :).
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Looks like a good sturdy stick there Steve. Any idea on the wood used? :)
Bamboo. Super strong and light. Has a stainless steel lag bolt in the end with cross hatch ground into it for grip.
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Thanks for all the ideas. There does seem to be alot of more affordable ones that as Ryan put it, don't inspire much faith and then there's a big price jump to the more substantial ones. Given that the more substantial ones are out of my price range right now, I figure I'll wait and see how I get on. If I get desperate I'll go hack a limb of some unfortunate tree in the wood up the road :P
:pok: (http://i112.photobucket.com/albums/n184/sparky_415/chopwood.gif)
:D
Do you have any more pictures of it please Steve?
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Here is my stash of walking sticks and canes.
(http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r207/Chako_photo/Album%202/SAM_1274small.jpg)
Please tell me I'm not the only one seeing this :o :-[ :ahhh
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Thanks for all the ideas. There does seem to be alot of more affordable ones that as Ryan put it, don't inspire much faith and then there's a big price jump to the more substantial ones. Given that the more substantial ones are out of my price range right now, I figure I'll wait and see how I get on. If I get desperate I'll go hack a limb of some unfortunate tree in the wood up the road :P
:pok: (http://i112.photobucket.com/albums/n184/sparky_415/chopwood.gif)
:D
Do you have any more pictures of it please Steve?
I can take more detailed ones tomorrow if I remember. I will show some more detail on it.
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Actually, getting out looking for a suitable piece of wood/sapling is a lot of fun. I do this
a fair bit and aside from getting out in the fresh air hiking, I'm always on the lookout for
strange crooks, and twisted sticks. I've got close to a hundred sticks on a rack drying out
and awaiting the sanding process and finish.
Wonderful hobby. :tu:
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Please tell me I'm not the only one seeing this :o :-[ :ahhh
No one else can see that except for you BW :twak:
:pok: You need help
:D
Sean, I think I need to find some wobbily wood :tu:
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Actually, getting out looking for a suitable piece of wood/sapling is a lot of fun. I do this
a fair bit and aside from getting out in the fresh air hiking, I'm always on the lookout for
strange crooks, and twisted sticks. I've got close to a hundred sticks on a rack drying out
and awaiting the sanding process and finish.
Wonderful hobby. :tu:
Have you ever come across a suitable piece of Osage Orange? That's one of my favorite woods. When you first mill it to size it is a bright yellow then it ages to an orange-brown color. Beautiful stuff. I've got some smaller pieces in my shop, but nothing long enough for a hiking staff.
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Sounds really nice. Wouldn't mind seeing a picture of some of that wood (Osage)? To my knowledge
we don't have it growing anywhere near here (B.C). Some of the wood we have available
around these parts are Alder, which has a very nice red underbark, Maple which turns color
as it ages, and I got lucky the other day and found a nice discarded piece of corkscrew willow
which was dumped with a pile of cedar hedge trimmings. Cedar is also a nice wood for walking
sticks as well. I'm working on a few so will post some pic's when they are completed.
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Sounds really nice. Wouldn't mind seeing a picture of some of that wood (Osage)? To my knowledge
we don't have it growing anywhere near here (B.C). Some of the wood we have available
around these parts are Alder, which has a very nice red underbark, Maple which turns color
as it ages, and I got lucky the other day and found a nice discarded piece of corkscrew willow
which was dumped with a pile of cedar hedge trimmings. Cedar is also a nice wood for walking
sticks as well. I'm working on a few so will post some pic's when they are completed.
Osage Orange is also know as Bodark, Bois D'Arc, Maclura pomifera or its most common name in the USA Hedge Apple. It is native to Oklahoma and northern Texas, but it is common in much of the US now. We have a lot of it here in Michigan.
Below is a picture of some small items made of Osage Orange. They appear to be new because the color has not mellowed to the orange brown color yet.
(http://www.woodensecrets.com/redbgsm.jpg)
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Thanks for posting that picture of the wood. Looks very nice and I'll bet it ages
beautifully. :tu:
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Osage is also a good wood for a selfbow.
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That's interesting, have you made one before? :)
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As requested. Pics
The stainless bolt. Uh I guess I forgot to do the crosshatch
(http://i808.photobucket.com/albums/zz5/tattoosteve99/7fe08a82.jpg)
Detailed paracord wrap
(http://i808.photobucket.com/albums/zz5/tattoosteve99/5ad6c795.jpg)
Best shot I could get of the whole thing. Nevermind the mess :(
(http://i808.photobucket.com/albums/zz5/tattoosteve99/ec15670d.jpg)
Enjoy
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No, but I know a few club members that have.
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No, but I know a few club members that have.
I was just checking it out online. Looks interesting how they make them and they did
mention the Osage Orange as being good as you mentioned.
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Looks good that stick Steve, nice paracord wrap! :tu: A question? The stainless bolt on
the bottom of the stick, what is that under it rubber?
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Thanks for the pictures Steve, the whipping/paracord looks really great! :tu:
Now I understand about the lag-bolt, I was thinking about making some kind of ferule for mine :think:
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Looks good that stick Steve, nice paracord wrap! :tu: A question? The stainless bolt on
the bottom of the stick, what is that under it rubber?
Yeah something like that. It's a chair end. The kind that goes on the bottom of a chair to keep it from sliding. They have a couple colors and several sizes. I got the idea from a survival expert "army ranger Rick". Hes got his own website. The wrapping I got from a link on stormdranes blog. Thanks people.
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Thanks for the pictures Steve, the whipping/paracord looks really great! :tu:
Now I understand about the lag-bolt, I was thinking about making some kind of ferule for mine :think:
I use these on some of mine that I don't fit with either a rubber cane tip (great if you are using
them weekly) or a furniture tip (good for occasional use).
They are a bit pricey but wonderful because you can swap the tip for those icy winter conditions
when needed most.
http://www.leevalley.com/en/wood/page.aspx?p=58762&cat=1,250,43243 (http://www.leevalley.com/en/wood/page.aspx?p=58762&cat=1,250,43243)
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They look great Sean :drool:
I think I will end up ramming a bit of copper pipe on the end of mine ;)
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Sounds good. :)
Years ago I took an outside thread piece of brass pipe about an inch or so long
and the size of the inside diameter of the bottom of the stick I wanted to fit. I then put glue on the inside of the brass and tapped it on to the stick with a mallet. I then took the threads to my grinding wheel to bevel the threads flat and I'll tell you it looked sharp and only for a buck or two.
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I have a garage full of 'stuff' I just need to find the right bit..... It might take some time to finish ::) :)
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Have fun. :tu: I use my sticks a fair bit so more often than not I find rubber fits my
needs best but brass or a metal cap of some sort looks the best.
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Heres one that i did, parts that you don't see, behind the wrap(zip-ties, fish line, fish hooks um,, and something else important. at the bottom i grooved a ruler up to two feet, first 6" by the quarter, then by half" and second ft by the inch. i also added at the top, i drilled a hole and fit a mini single aaa maglite threw, and as you can see, at the top is a 360deg compass, that i ended up drilling a hole in the top and setting in the top, also tied in a D-shape hook, and the wrist strap is really a rock sling..
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v196/mrssabrina/Justins%20Projects/Staff.jpg) (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v196/mrssabrina/Justins%20Projects/Staff2.jpg)
my other walking stick i haven't finished, but that one is leather rather then para-cord, sorry no pics.. JR
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Some great ideas there mad one :salute:
Mmmm a few wraps of copper wire set in to the stick every foot or 50cms :think: ...... good idea Mate :cheers:
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A wrist strap that is a rock sling. Nice touch.
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madplum,
looks like a great stick, nice work! :tu:
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Thanks for the pictures Steve, the whipping/paracord looks really great! :tu:
Now I understand about the lag-bolt, I was thinking about making some kind of ferule for mine :think:
I use these on some of mine that I don't fit with either a rubber cane tip (great if you are using
them weekly) or a furniture tip (good for occasional use).
They are a bit pricey but wonderful because you can swap the tip for those icy winter conditions
when needed most.
http://www.leevalley.com/en/wood/page.aspx?p=58762&cat=1,250,43243 (http://www.leevalley.com/en/wood/page.aspx?p=58762&cat=1,250,43243)
Thanks for the link, those are way better than what I have, mine are just alpine spike type with a removable rubber foot :tu:
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Thanks for the pictures Steve, the whipping/paracord looks really great! :tu:
Now I understand about the lag-bolt, I was thinking about making some kind of ferule for mine :think:
I use these on some of mine that I don't fit with either a rubber cane tip (great if you are using
them weekly) or a furniture tip (good for occasional use).
They are a bit pricey but wonderful because you can swap the tip for those icy winter conditions
when needed most.
http://www.leevalley.com/en/wood/page.aspx?p=58762&cat=1,250,43243 (http://www.leevalley.com/en/wood/page.aspx?p=58762&cat=1,250,43243)
Thanks for the link, those are way better than what I have, mine are just alpine spike type with a removable rubber foot :tu:
Hey your welcome. :) Yours are cheaper though and homebrewed which is nice! :tu:
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Thanks for the pictures Steve, the whipping/paracord looks really great! :tu:
Now I understand about the lag-bolt, I was thinking about making some kind of ferule for mine :think:
I use these on some of mine that I don't fit with either a rubber cane tip (great if you are using
them weekly) or a furniture tip (good for occasional use).
They are a bit pricey but wonderful because you can swap the tip for those icy winter conditions
when needed most.
http://www.leevalley.com/en/wood/page.aspx?p=58762&cat=1,250,43243 (http://www.leevalley.com/en/wood/page.aspx?p=58762&cat=1,250,43243)
That's cool but I prefer this one:
http://www.leevalley.com/en/wood/page.aspx?p=63218&cat=1,250,43243
Thanks for the link
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Your welcome Steve! Next time in I think I'll try and buy a bit more in bulk and see
if they can give me a bit better price.
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madplum,
looks like a great stick, nice work! :tu:
thanks, ill have to take a updated pic and a few on my other.. JR
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I couldn't resist picking up this nice 1907 gentleman's stick a couple of months ago. While I do have a dodgy knee it's been years since it gave me enough trouble to actually require a stick, but if it ever does again then I know I can limp in style.(http://fc03.deviantart.net/fs12/i/2006/306/1/8/_hatsoff__by_LeoLeonardo.gif)
(http://i581.photobucket.com/albums/ss260/gareth_SAKs/001.jpg)
(http://i581.photobucket.com/albums/ss260/gareth_SAKs/005.jpg)
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I couldn't resist picking up this nice 1907 gentleman's stick a couple of months ago. While I do have a dodgy knee it's been years since it gave me enough trouble to actually require a stick, but if it ever does again then I know I can limp in style.
Well if we ever meet at an MTO gathering I can help with that >:D
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Gareth, that is a nice stick indeed! So, at the expense of sounding like those chaps on
Antique Roadshow, tell us a little bit about it if you can, what type of wood, where you
ended up getting it and how you know about it's age? :)
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Gareth, that is a nice stick indeed! So, at the expense of sounding like those chaps on
Antique Roadshow, tell us a little bit about it if you can, what type of wood, where you
ended up getting it and how you know about it's age? :)
Well luckily the silver collar is, in fact, Sterling Silver and as such has a set of hallmarks on it. So with a bit of Google-fu I can tell that it is British made and from 1907. I can say with certainty that the handle is horn, but not what animal it's from. :D The wood shaft I'm much less certain about. It's got a very short, close grain but not (I think) an oak. Also has a very slight flex to it, just enough to stop it being brittle I guess. I picked it up in an antiques centre about 40 miles from where I live. :)
I couldn't resist picking up this nice 1907 gentleman's stick a couple of months ago. While I do have a dodgy knee it's been years since it gave me enough trouble to actually require a stick, but if it ever does again then I know I can limp in style.
Well if we ever meet at an MTO gathering I can help with that >:D
Ha! You wouldn't be the first person to try, but I'm still walking just fine. >:D
:duel:
:D
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Gareth,
Thanks for the info. What a nice find and cane. Enjoy it. :tu:
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Nice stick Gareth.
My brother found a nice silver topped cane when he pulled up the carpet in the old house he was renting years back. He needs a stick to walk so this was great, unfortunately generation upon generation we keep getting taller and it was about a 40cm too short. Still he cleaned it up and added it to his stick stand by the door for show :)
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Nice stick Gareth.
My brother found a nice silver topped cane when he pulled up the carpet in the old house he was renting years back. He needs a stick to walk so this was great, unfortunately generation upon generation we keep getting taller and it was about a 40cm too short. Still he cleaned it up and added it to his stick stand by the door for show :)
This is true in a lot of cases sadly. luckily this one is a good length for me and even happens to have my initials monogrammed on the silver collar. I really couldn't say no. :)
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Nice stick Gareth.
My brother found a nice silver topped cane when he pulled up the carpet in the old house he was renting years back. He needs a stick to walk so this was great, unfortunately generation upon generation we keep getting taller and it was about a 40cm too short. Still he cleaned it up and added it to his stick stand by the door for show :)
This is true in a lot of cases sadly. luckily this one is a good length for me and even happens to have my initials monogrammed on the silver collar. I really couldn't say no. :)
There was no way you could turn this one down Gareth, it was meant to be :salute:
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That is a lovely cane, I certainly wouldn't mind one like that :)
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Really lovely... and it think it suits you too :)
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Yes "suits you sir" ;)
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thanks folks.(http://fc03.deviantart.net/fs12/i/2006/306/1/8/_hatsoff__by_LeoLeonardo.gif)
A couple more. My other nice cane, simple wooded ball top and plain shaft. This one actually has held me up during a short period of limping.
(http://i581.photobucket.com/albums/ss260/gareth_SAKs/Sticks001.jpg)
The whole group; the two 'dress' canes and a couple of my own short poles. No idea what the wood's are, but these two poles have seen me through a good few days worth of hiking.
(http://i581.photobucket.com/albums/ss260/gareth_SAKs/Sticks004.jpg)
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Nice! The one on the right looks like it might be birch. I have a few of them and
I can't tell the difference between yours and mine, but who knows. :)
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All very nice, like what you done to the one on the right :tu: I like them with the bark on, love that all natural look.
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Nice! The one on the right looks like it might be birch. I have a few of them and
I can't tell the difference between yours and mine, but who knows. :)
actually given the horizontal pattern of the bark, birch sounds very plausible. Cheers Sean. :tu:
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Nice! The one on the right looks like it might be birch. I have a few of them and
I can't tell the difference between yours and mine, but who knows. :)
actually given the horizontal pattern of the bark, birch sounds very plausible. Cheers Sean. :tu:
It looks like it could be cherry also.
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Yep, I'd say Cherry.
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could be Cherry. :) I'd go with if you remember where you harvested it from and what the
stand of the day is in that area?
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I have absolutely NO idea where, or when, I harvested this one. :-[ Sorry.
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I'm pretty sure thats cherry. If you can cut into it a small bit, wet the wood, smell and lightly taste it. It should smell like cherry and have a sweet taste. Also there are lots near my house (wild cherry) if I can remember I'll take some comparison shots for you.
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okay, we'll go with the majority here and side with cherry. :) :tu:
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Word of advice to anyone using a cane for heavy use. Get a hiking pole. I bore too much weight on mine, & have ruined my wrist, and thumb. Switched hands & have been using a hiking pole ever since. I get asked if I'm blind quite often lol, but its better than the cane was. I should have just swallowed my pride and used a walker, like I was told, but sometimes we have to screw ourselves to be humbled enough to listen to those wiser.
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Bumping this
I've still not finished mine :-[