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Title: WD40?
Post by: Rhino1227 on May 06, 2010, 01:51:44 AM
Hey guys,

I've been using oil on my MT's, but decided today to try some WD40 instead.  Was wondering what you guys use, and why.
Title: Re: WD40?
Post by: ari6126 on May 06, 2010, 02:31:24 AM
Mineral oil. Cheap, easy to find, food safe, and it works.
Title: Re: WD40?
Post by: Gareth on May 06, 2010, 03:08:28 AM
Nano oil for me. :)
Title: Re: WD40?
Post by: Pacu on May 06, 2010, 03:36:15 AM
Remington Gun Oil with teflon for me. Good stuff.  Tastes a bit like 10w30 with a earthy smokey carcinogenic flavour. :o :P :D
Title: Re: WD40?
Post by: andre0407 on May 06, 2010, 03:49:26 AM
I avoid WD40. It gums things up when used over time, leaving a rather sticky residue. I use Break Free CLP. :)
Title: Re: WD40?
Post by: scibeer on May 06, 2010, 05:12:48 AM
I've tried almost everything and have settled on good old 10W-40. 
Title: Re: WD40?
Post by: Smitty44 on May 06, 2010, 05:43:58 AM
All the above,but try to use a needle oiler,a little go's a long way,and wipe off the access,thats what collects the dust and grit.
 :cheers:& :salute:
Title: Re: WD40?
Post by: sawman on May 06, 2010, 07:30:07 AM
A dab of good gun oil or 3 in 1 to essential joints and pivots is ideal for healthy operation. BUT, WD40 is also necessary for cleaning and removing moisture at times. If your MT or knife has been exposed to water or is full of gunk, thats where you put the little red straw in the WD40 dispenser and hose out all possible areas - this cleans and lubricates. No matter which you use for the occassion however, be sure to wipe away any excess oil to avoid drenching everything it contacts.
Title: Re: WD40?
Post by: Mike, Lord of the Spammers! on May 06, 2010, 07:45:46 AM
Mineral oil. Cheap, easy to find, food safe, and it works.
+1 :tu:
Title: Re: WD40?
Post by: Sparky415 on May 06, 2010, 10:54:59 AM
Don't forget that WD should never be used where there is a source of ignition!  ::)

It will do a good impression of a dog......






Woof
Title: Re: WD40?
Post by: cerbera147 on May 06, 2010, 12:47:44 PM
Hey guys,

I've been using oil on my MT's, but decided today to try some WD40 instead.  Was wondering what you guys use, and why.

Hi buddy,

I haven't tried this stuff but everyone here swears by it. http://www.nano-oil.com/CPF.html (http://www.nano-oil.com/CPF.html) It is by a nice guy called Christian StClaire who posts here; even does giveaways  :tu:

In fact you've reminded me I should get off my lazy a$$ and get some :D
Title: Re: WD40?
Post by: Magic Bus on May 06, 2010, 12:57:31 PM
Nano oil, thanks to you know who  ;) :) The needle dispenser works great  :tu:
Title: Re: WD40?
Post by: Shorty66 on May 06, 2010, 01:11:26 PM
I just ordered the Nano oil 5 micro dispenser.
Could anyone post a picture of the dispenser with something for a size relation or post the measurements?
I am considering to add the dispenser to my wallet ;)
Title: Re: WD40?
Post by: DaveK on May 06, 2010, 01:24:37 PM
Hey guys,

I've been using oil on my MT's, but decided today to try some WD40 instead.  Was wondering what you guys use, and why.

Hi buddy,

I haven't tried this stuff but everyone here swears by it. http://www.nano-oil.com/CPF.html (http://www.nano-oil.com/CPF.html) It is by a nice guy called Christian StClaire who posts here; even does giveaways  :tu:

In fact you've reminded me I should get off my lazy a$$ and get some :D

Maybe we can club together and beat the shipping costs a bit Dan? I'm running low.

Personally, I wouldn't recommend WD40 as a lube - it sort of works for a short while, but it isn't designed to be a lubricant and doesn't last too long. It does help to disperse moisture and therefore protect against rust a bit though.

The above mentioned nano-oil is the best stuff I've tried so far, and the light 3 in 1 is decent, but I have to say that most modern tools don't seem to require lubing at all in my experience. I don't lube Charges, Waves etc as they seem fine without, but old PSTs and Supertools do seem to benefit a bit :)
Title: Re: WD40?
Post by: thebullfrog on May 06, 2010, 01:36:59 PM
Mineral oil. As said before, it's cheap, it works well, and it's sanitary. Plus it has no smell. I hate WD40. It's good for what it's made for, Water Displacement. That's it. Beyond cleaning out water from nooks and crannies I will never ever use it.
Title: Re: WD40?
Post by: Styerman on May 06, 2010, 02:55:05 PM
WD stands for water displacement . It attracts dust and crap . It makes an OK emergency tapping or cutting fluid , but other than that I wouldn't use it to lube a dog's d!@k .

Chris
Title: Re: WD40?
Post by: ratslash7 on May 06, 2010, 04:25:42 PM
I think WD-40 has it's place in the ol' tool cabinet. It is more solvent than lubricant and, as it has already been stated, It's good at what it's made to do.
Title: Re: WD40?
Post by: Vladimir on May 06, 2010, 05:06:13 PM
Nano-oil (thanks again Christian)  for my mt, Nyogel for my torches
Title: Re: WD40?
Post by: Mr. Whippy on May 06, 2010, 05:15:52 PM
Since I use my SAKs and MT's on food sometimes, I use mineral oil.

However, I must say, I thought lard would have been brought up by now.  :P
Title: Re: WD40?
Post by: Benner on May 06, 2010, 11:12:20 PM
I have used it on my MT's for years and it works for me.
Title: Re: WD40?
Post by: Pacu on May 06, 2010, 11:33:29 PM
Since I use my SAKs and MT's on food sometimes, I use mineral oil.

However, I must say, I thought lard would have been brought up by now.  :P

(http://www.texmex.net/Graphics/lard.gif)

i use it on all my tools >:D

Great with swisstools, tamales, tex-mex, PSTs, and fried chicken.

I use it as deordorant, hair gel, toilet paper and in my coffee. It's healthy too! Lubes up your heart so it pumps easier.

 ::)
Title: Re: WD40?
Post by: thebullfrog on May 07, 2010, 03:50:47 AM
Gotta keep them arteries nice and slippery
Title: Re: WD40?
Post by: evil510 on May 07, 2010, 06:58:45 AM
Bones Speed Cream. Good enough for my swiss racing bearings, good enough for my multitools.....

(http://i824.photobucket.com/albums/zz166/evil510/050620101686.jpg)
Title: Re: WD40?
Post by: shecky on May 07, 2010, 07:59:42 AM
WD40 is fine. People always seem to attribute magical nasty properties to it. But the stuff is mostly a kerosene-like solvent with some mineral oil added. The solvent thins out the oil, and is relatively quick to evaporate, leaving the oil behind. It's a perfectly adequate lube for multitools. ANY oil will attract dirt. Which is why oil of all types should be used sparingly, or else it will attract dirt and other contaminants, leading to gumming and crud. WD40 isn't all that flammable. In the old days, they used butane propellant, which was great for us firebug kids. We had so much fun, they decided to switch to CO2 or something much safer. So now, the oil and solvent will burn, but nothing like the old butane propellant, or even gasoline. It tends to want a wick to ignite. Honestly, though, if you can get away from using oil at all, I find that to be the best option. MTs are not sealed mechanisms. Their oiled joints attract dirt, which may increase wear by keeping a greasy dirt slurry in all those parts that rub together. This increased wear and gunk then demands more oil be used to remedy the situation, which is only a temporary and repeating cycle. I find if a tool operates smoothly enough without lubrication, it's best to leave well enough alone.

BTW, Leatherman recommends WD40.
Title: Re: WD40?
Post by: Dunc on May 07, 2010, 11:12:01 AM
My wife told me to get some of this ............

(http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b176/ebbingtide/album1/KY.jpg)


She told me that if I put it all over my tool we would have a very enjoyablee evening  :)  She wasn't wrong  :tu:  I got out all my multis and starting with a Spirit I lubed my entire collection finishing with a Vic Classic .I had a great time , its been ages since I got all the collection out on the kitchen table . I thought my wife was going to help but she went to bed really early  :think:

Dunc
Title: Re: WD40?
Post by: Sparky415 on May 07, 2010, 11:22:24 AM
Women!   ::)









 :rofl:
Title: Re: WD40?
Post by: DaveK on May 07, 2010, 09:19:38 PM
BTW, Leatherman recommends WD40.

Interesting that they ship them with something else on them!

My wife told me to get some of this ............

(http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b176/ebbingtide/album1/KY.jpg)


She told me that if I put it all over my tool we would have a very enjoyablee evening  :)  She wasn't wrong  :tu:  I got out all my multis and starting with a Spirit I lubed my entire collection finishing with a Vic Classic .I had a great time , its been ages since I got all the collection out on the kitchen table . I thought my wife was going to help but she went to bed really early  :think:

Dunc


:D
Title: Re: WD40?
Post by: NutSAK on May 07, 2010, 09:29:07 PM
I personally wouldn't ever consider lubricating anything with WD-40.  It is designed to displace water, not lubricate.

I recommend mineral oil unless the tool sticks, then I would recommend nano-oil.
Title: Re: WD40?
Post by: shecky on May 07, 2010, 09:46:16 PM
I personally wouldn't ever consider lubricating anything with WD-40.  It is designed to displace water, not lubricate.

Though commonly repeated, this is not completely true. Not only will it help disperse water, it will also lubricate. It's even advertised as such. Really, is there any reason to believe that WD40 will not lubricate? Look it up. It's just thinned oil. I suppose it won't work well in the crankcase of an old Ford. But for knives and hand tools, it works just fine.

This same nonsense goes on with bicyclists. Mention WD40 as a chain lube on bike forum, and watch about half the heads explode, claiming a whole litany of reasons it will destroy your precious bike, usually starting with the trope, "...but it's designed to displace water!". The other half will say they've used it for years and never noticed anything bad as a result.
Title: Re: WD40?
Post by: Gareth on May 07, 2010, 09:50:10 PM
My wife told me to get some of this ............

(http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b176/ebbingtide/album1/KY.jpg)


She told me that if I put it all over my tool we would have a very enjoyablee evening  :)  She wasn't wrong  :tu:  I got out all my multis and starting with a Spirit I lubed my entire collection finishing with a Vic Classic .I had a great time , its been ages since I got all the collection out on the kitchen table . I thought my wife was going to help but she went to bed really early  :think:

Dunc

:rofl:
Title: Re: WD40?
Post by: John on May 07, 2010, 10:08:10 PM
Where to get food grade mineral oil?  :think: thanks guys  :cheers:
Title: Re: WD40?
Post by: Sazabi on May 07, 2010, 10:20:21 PM
Where to get food grade mineral oil?  :think: thanks guys  :cheers:

Look in a pharmacy; they're sold as laxatives, but it's all the same. :)
Title: Re: WD40?
Post by: John on May 07, 2010, 10:32:29 PM
Where to get food grade mineral oil?  :think: thanks guys  :cheers:

Look in a pharmacy; they're sold as laxatives, but it's all the same. :)

A pharmacy? Hmm! I think I'll take my tool along and show them exactly what wants lubricating,I don't want them to get the wrong idea  :think:  :D
Title: Re: WD40?
Post by: Rhino1227 on May 08, 2010, 02:52:55 AM
Hey guys, thanks for all the great feedback.  Seems like there is some divide over the effectiveness of WD40 as a lubricant. Well, I'll have to invest in some nano oil and mineral oil to compliment the WD40. By the way, my wife is now convinced I am a total loser for asking you guys about lubing my MTs.

Ryan
Title: Re: WD40?
Post by: DaveK on May 08, 2010, 03:05:20 AM
I personally wouldn't ever consider lubricating anything with WD-40.  It is designed to displace water, not lubricate.

Though commonly repeated, this is not completely true. Not only will it help disperse water, it will also lubricate. It's even advertised as such. Really, is there any reason to believe that WD40 will not lubricate? Look it up. It's just thinned oil. I suppose it won't work well in the crankcase of an old Ford. But for knives and hand tools, it works just fine.

This same nonsense goes on with bicyclists. Mention WD40 as a chain lube on bike forum, and watch about half the heads explode, claiming a whole litany of reasons it will destroy your precious bike, usually starting with the trope, "...but it's designed to displace water!". The other half will say they've used it for years and never noticed anything bad as a result.

Sorry, but I have to disagree with this. WD-40 does indeed have some lubricative properties - no doubt. But to suggest that it is on a par with purpose designed oils just isn't right.

I don't think anyone's suggested that it will do any harm to multitools, but it clearly isn't as effective a lubricant as say, the gun oils, nano-oil and others that have been mentioned. In fact, WD-40 actually produce "3-IN-ONE" PTFE products that often sit on the same shelf in hardware stores, and it is this that is marketed as "Ideal for chains, cables and gear mechanisms". The WD-40 can says "Stops Squeaks, Drives Out Moisture, Cleans and Protects, Loosens Rusted Parts and Frees Sticky Mechanisms".

Don't get me wrong, I use WD40 a hell of a lot for releasing seized tools, cleaning and ensuring moisture has been dealt with on tools that I restore - it's great stuff. But one of the above oils will provide efficient lubrication for longer on a multitool, which is why I switched from using WD-40.

Hey guys, thanks for all the great feedback.  Seems like there is some divide over the effectiveness of WD40 as a lubricant. Well, I'll have to invest in some nano oil and mineral oil to compliment the WD40. By the way, my wife is now convinced I am a total loser for asking you guys about lubing my MTs.

Ryan

Ah, what do they know ;)
Title: Re: WD40?
Post by: Styerman on May 08, 2010, 04:42:23 AM
Where to get food grade mineral oil?  :think: thanks guys  :cheers:

Look in a pharmacy; they're sold as laxatives, but it's all the same. :)

A pharmacy? Hmm! I think I'll take my tool along and show them exactly what wants lubricating,I don't want them to get the wrong idea  :think:  :D

Ya dont lube tools with that stuff , slippery but very latex unfriendly !

Chris
Title: Re: WD40?
Post by: Nikos on May 08, 2010, 06:24:25 PM
Where to get food grade mineral oil?  :think: thanks guys  :cheers:

Look in a pharmacy; they're sold as laxatives, but it's all the same. :)

A pharmacy? Hmm! I think I'll take my tool along and show them exactly what wants lubricating,I don't want them to get the wrong idea  :think:  :D

Mineral oil is also known as liquid paraffin or heavy paraffin oil (at least that's how it's marketed around here).
Title: Re: WD40?
Post by: zepla on May 09, 2010, 11:12:03 AM
How about graphite powder? I used to use on a doorlock that did not run smooth and the difference was stunning! I'm out of it bit I would sure try it on a MT. Any experience with that? The best part about this, is that it is dry.
Title: Re: WD40?
Post by: Nikos on May 09, 2010, 09:20:49 PM
When I was asking around for mineral oil for my MTs, a local weaponsmith suggested a graphite-powder-based product. He couldn't vouch it was food-safe though... :-\
Title: Re: WD40?
Post by: zepla on May 10, 2010, 02:39:54 PM
It is made out of carbon I guess. The building blocks of life, so you should be safe  ;)
Title: Re: WD40?
Post by: Mercury on May 10, 2010, 03:30:54 PM
3 in 1 works wonders in moderation.  It's kinda easy to over use it though.
Title: Re: WD40?
Post by: NutSAK on May 10, 2010, 04:04:23 PM
I personally wouldn't ever consider lubricating anything with WD-40.  It is designed to displace water, not lubricate.

Though commonly repeated, this is not completely true.

Yes, that statement is completely true.  WD-40 was not designed as a lubricant.  It was designed specifically to displace water and prevent corrosion.  It does contain thin oil, but to lubricate is not it's primary use and should only be substituted for a proper lubricant as a last resort, IMO.  There are much better products desgined and manufactured specifically to lubricate.  Yes, there are many uses of WD-40 as claimed by the manufacturer, but it performs most of those "many uses" very poorly.

I was a bicycle mechanic for 10 years, and I told hundreds of customers to never apply WD-40 to their chains--for good reason.  I saw the results of its use (grime and resulting wear) and there are much better products widely available.  A chain lube should slough off dirt and grime, not gum up and attract it as WD-40 does.  

Call it nonsense if you will, but when asked for my advice I will continue to suggest that people use proper lubricants where they are needed.
Title: Re: WD40?
Post by: Mercury on May 10, 2010, 04:21:38 PM
I personally wouldn't ever consider lubricating anything with WD-40.  It is designed to displace water, not lubricate.

Though commonly repeated, this is not completely true.

Yes, that statement is completely true.  WD-40 was not designed as a lubricant.  It was designed specifically to displace water and prevent corrosion.  It does contain thin oil, but to lubricate is not it's primary use and should only be substituted for a proper lubricant as a last resort, IMO.  There are much better products desgined and manufactured specifically to lubricate.  Yes, there are many uses of WD-40 as claimed by the manufacturer, but it performs most of those "many uses" very poorly.

I was a bicycle mechanic for 10 years, and I told hundreds of customers to never apply WD-40 to their chains--for good reason.  I saw the results of its use (grime and resulting wear) and there are much better products widely available.  A chain oil should slough off dirt and grime, not gum up and attract it as WD-40 does.  

Call it nonsense if you will, but when asked for my advice I will continue to suggest that people use proper lubricants where they are needed.

Absolutely.  Penetrating oils and the like are fantastic for, well, penetrating, and they excel at displacing water but they are too thin to properly lube metal on metal.   I maintain that Nano oil or 3 in 1 are the best for any sak/mt.   Oh yea, and WD40 gunks up like a mother.  If you want to destroy(very slowly) your MT, keep using it.
Title: Re: WD40?
Post by: NutSAK on May 10, 2010, 05:04:18 PM
Absolutely.  Penetrating oils and the like are fantastic for, well, penetrating, and they excel at displacing water but they are too thin to properly lube metal on metal.

In my experience, WD-40 isn't a good penetrating oil either.  I'll take a specific penetrating oil such as PB Blaster or Kroil over WD any day.
Title: Re: WD40?
Post by: Mercury on May 10, 2010, 05:40:47 PM
Absolutely.  Penetrating oils and the like are fantastic for, well, penetrating, and they excel at displacing water but they are too thin to properly lube metal on metal.

In my experience, WD-40 isn't a good penetrating oil either.  I'll take a specific penetrating oil such as PB Blaster or Kroil over WD any day.

KROIL!  good stuff.  Yea, WD40 is much better as a cleaner and water displacer.
Title: Re: WD40?
Post by: jim guy on May 18, 2010, 01:07:23 AM
Absolutely.  Penetrating oils and the like are fantastic for, well, penetrating, and they excel at displacing water but they are too thin to properly lube metal on metal.

In my experience, WD-40 isn't a good penetrating oil either.  I'll take a specific penetrating oil such as PB Blaster or Kroil over WD any day.

KROIL!  good stuff.  Yea, WD40 is much better as a cleaner and water displacer.
I agree :tu:
Title: Re: WD40?
Post by: Multiple Personality on June 04, 2010, 07:06:26 PM
It's just my personal preference guys but I would really recommend trying some G96 Gun Treatment.  I've been using it almost 20 years now.  It doesn't get gummy like WD-40 and it cleans and lubes. (www.g96.com)
Title: Re: WD40?
Post by: TxSxB on June 04, 2010, 09:05:13 PM
I use WD-40 on my tackle box MT, but only because its always in my tackle box, WD cleans and lubes reels very nicely and it can do wonders as a fish attractant :tu:
Title: Re: WD40?
Post by: smiller43147 on June 04, 2010, 10:35:17 PM
WD-40, but not the aerosol.  I buy the gallon size container.  All oil, no propellent.

And I happen to LIKE my tools smelling that way!
Title: Re: WD40?
Post by: an0nemus on April 16, 2017, 06:50:04 AM
Hello guys. Sorry to revive this old thread. I was at my local hardware store and saw these WD-40 lubricants. Which of these two works better for my Leatherman-- Silicone or Dry Lube?

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170416/4c47ef6a8391bd0524215567698ad34c.jpg)
Title: Re: WD40?
Post by: Gareth on April 16, 2017, 08:50:01 AM
Of the two I'd go with the Silicone as I think it would be the better penetrator, but that's just a gut feeling.
Title: Re: WD40?
Post by: an0nemus on April 16, 2017, 09:39:34 AM
Of the two I'd go with the Silicone as I think it would be the better penetrator, but that's just a gut feeling.
Here's a close up of the two and their features.

FWIW, Silicone is US$7, while Dry Lube is US$8.

I guess either will do the job?(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170416/1e5108ad63ac9c39f89efd04f3ea46cd.jpg)
Title: Re: WD40?
Post by: ReamerPunch on April 16, 2017, 09:42:27 AM
Of the two I'd go with the Silicone as I think it would be the better penetrator, but that's just a gut feeling.

That's what she said.  :D
Title: Re: WD40?
Post by: Gareth on April 16, 2017, 10:53:32 AM
Of the two I'd go with the Silicone as I think it would be the better penetrator, but that's just a gut feeling.

That's what she said.  :D
:doh:
Title: Re: WD40?
Post by: zoidberg on April 16, 2017, 11:44:49 AM
 :rofl:
Title: Re: WD40?
Post by: an0nemus on April 16, 2017, 01:20:14 PM
😂😂😂
Title: Re: WD40?
Post by: SteveC on April 16, 2017, 03:18:09 PM
 :rofl:
Title: Re: WD40?
Post by: AlephZero on April 17, 2017, 06:46:12 PM
Of the two I'd go with the Silicone as I think it would be the better penetrator, but that's just a gut feeling.

That's what she said.  :D
:doh:

:facepalm:
   +
 :rofl:
Title: Re: WD40?
Post by: Poncho65 on April 17, 2017, 07:26:10 PM
Of the two I'd go with the Silicone as I think it would be the better penetrator, but that's just a gut feeling.

That's what she said.  :D
:doh:

:facepalm:
   +
 :rofl:

 ::)

 :rofl:

Also in true MTO fashion get both :whistle:

Then let us know which is better :D