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Outdoor Section => The Outdoor and Survival Forum => Topic started by: jzmtl on March 17, 2010, 02:14:33 AM
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I'm planning on build a PSK, not pocket sized but rather something I can throw in my pack if I may need it.
Original plan was to use an otter box, but after reading the specs a little I found they are really bulky, adding over an inch in every dimension, which would change the size quite a bit on something this size.
So now I'm not sure what to put it in anymore, maybe a nylon pouch? It wouldn't be waterproof or nearly as sturdy thou. Any suggestions?
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It may not be the most "tactical" of answers but have you thought about a Tupperware type box? Strong near-unbreakable plastic, infinite choice of sizes and waterproof. Some types will have clip down lids that are very unlikely to come open. I've used them for food stuffs when hiking and never had an issue.
(http://img.auctiva.com/imgdata/8/4/8/0/8/0/webimg/324849857_tp.jpg)
Just an idea. :)
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Haha, you know, I actually never thought about that. But you are right, they would be quite functional.
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Personally, in a pack that size isn't a huge concern, throw it all in a Nalgene. To me, it is more practical than Tupperware, since you have a bottle for water in an emergency now.
Alternatively, I put my smaller kits for day-trips in a 1L, up to 5L depending on how much gear you want, drysack. Drysacks are waterproof, strong, can be used in a pinch to patch your jacket, and slide super easy in and out of a pack. Zip-lock baggies are the same thing on the cheap side, but don't last as long.
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I use Otterboxes. You're right about the sizes, the are a bit bulky but they seem pretty indistructable. And the smaller ones are waterproof aswell unlike the small Pelican boxes. If you are looking for a watertight box that does not going to be under a lot of stress, I would go with the Tuperware kind of boxes mentioned before. An added bonus of those is that you just can steal them from the wife or from the person who has probably the best assortment,...........your mom :D
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How about a large cooking bot of some kind?
At least it's serve more than one purpose then :)
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I use Otterboxes. You're right about the sizes, the are a bit bulky but they seem pretty indistructable. And the smaller ones are waterproof aswell unlike the small Pelican boxes. If you are looking for a watertight box that does not going to be under a lot of stress, I would go with the Tuperware kind of boxes mentioned before. An added bonus of those is that you just can steal them from the wife or from the person who has probably the best assortment,...........your mom :D
Hehe, I'm SOL, my mom doesn't use tupperware.
I think the ideal container is a relatively fat wide mouth all SS bottle, so it can function as a water container/boiler as well, but all the ones I've seen are either too tall or mouth is too small.
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I use Otterboxes. You're right about the sizes, the are a bit bulky but they seem pretty indistructable. And the smaller ones are waterproof aswell unlike the small Pelican boxes. If you are looking for a watertight box that does not going to be under a lot of stress, I would go with the Tuperware kind of boxes mentioned before. An added bonus of those is that you just can steal them from the wife or from the person who has probably the best assortment,...........your mom :D
Hehe, I'm SOL, my mom doesn't use tupperware.
I think the ideal container is a relatively fat wide mouth all SS bottle, so it can function as a water container/boiler as well, but all the ones I've seen are either too tall or mouth is too small.
The mouth on these is about 45-50mm wide if that's any good?
http://www.onegreenbottle.com/
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I use this pouch (od) for my PSK http://www.specopsbrand.com/ProductDetails.asp?ProductID=89 and tan version for my FAK. It comes with two aloksaks and it's on clearance now :cheers:
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The mouth on these is about 45-50mm wide if that's any good?
http://www.onegreenbottle.com/
Still would be difficult to retrive anything without dump everything out thou, I'm thinking something more like pot shaped, but with a screw on lid to keep it watertight, but I've never seen anything like that in local stores.
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I think of a PSK as something you have on your person at all times you've got pants on, and closeby when you don't have pants on :P
For that an Altoids tin is perfect IMO; cheap, light and sturdy. I was actually just sketching a design for a leather belt sheath for an Altoids tin...
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Heh, yeah, but I already carry a lot of crap on me, knives, tools, lights, firesteels, and at times lighters etc, so I figure as far as altoid type is concerned, I'm decently covered.
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I use an otterbox (little one, 100?) and find it's perfect for what I am wanting.
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I like these:
http://www.viewtainer.com/
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Those are pretty nice yeah :tu:
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I reckon a Bills Urban Wallet would fit a small kit in quite nicely. I use mine for my EDC urban PSK stuff :)
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For Packrafting I use the Trangia 210 Mess Tin with lid and detachable, insulated handle. A strip of pvc electrical tape waterproofs the lid/base edge. I store the handle inside the tin, which holds a good range of gear.
The Mess Tin can be used to gather and boil water and as a cook pot and mug. The lid can be used as a spoon or trowel if needed. Its the ability to gather, store and boil water, and to use as a cook pot and mug that makes this my PSK container of choice.
Size: 6.5 x 3.5 x 2.6 inches. Weight: 5.6 oz.
This Mess Tin is also available without the handle and in a larger size, 7.8 x 5.1 x 2.8 inches.
(http://ep.yimg.com/ca/I/wildernessdining_2104_2410873)
http://www.wildernessdining.com/lm327565.html (http://www.wildernessdining.com/lm327565.html)
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I made mine out of a Swiss canteen.Got the idea from here.
http://www.woodsmonkey.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=172:swiss-canteen-psk&catid=41:how-to-articles&Itemid=63
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I wanted to add a boiling container to my daypack PSK...so I cut the top off a Swiss M32 canteen, reversed it and made it into a slipcase type container. It is expandable, I added a few inches to the vertical webbing strap with that in mind.
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Sorry for bringing this back from the dead but that swiss canteen setup is excellent. I might use that idea.
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Rod,
As you look around this forum you will find that Spork has a million brilliant ideas
:dd: (I can't find a worshipping emoticon)
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I'm not brilliant...I'm just a bad influnce (http://fc01.deviantart.net/fs24/f/2008/017/6/1/Dance_til_ya_can__t_no_moe_by_de_Mote.gif)
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...and hot :drool:
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I'm not brilliant...I'm just a bad influnce (http://fc01.deviantart.net/fs24/f/2008/017/6/1/Dance_til_ya_can__t_no_moe_by_de_Mote.gif)
We're not worthy',We're not worthy :ahhh
I'm still bleeding from the last time I tried to copy you :twak:
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...and hot :drool:
I just had a new pole installed (http://fc01.deviantart.net/fs45/f/2009/071/a/1/_stripperpolefail__by_ChildIncognito.gif)
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I'm still bleeding from the last time I tried to copy you :twak:
Perhaps I shouldn't post the Swisstool I modified for body-piercing then... ::)
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I think I'm too old to have anything pierced :ahhh
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...and hot :drool:
I just had a new pole installed (http://fc01.deviantart.net/fs45/f/2009/071/a/1/_stripperpolefail__by_ChildIncognito.gif)
In where?!?! :o
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...and hot :drool:
I just had a new pole installed (http://fc01.deviantart.net/fs45/f/2009/071/a/1/_stripperpolefail__by_ChildIncognito.gif)
In where?!?! :o
(http://fc04.deviantart.net/fs7/i/2005/195/a/a/_bootyshake__by_neek_zique.gif) (http://fc01.deviantart.net/fs24/f/2008/017/6/1/Dance_til_ya_can__t_no_moe_by_de_Mote.gif)
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One question for Spork... does the "canteen" part get stuck in the cup at all or because you sanded the green paint off it slides in and out without problems. I know with US canteens(plastic ones), they are pretty tight in the canteen cup.
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I have not noticed it getting stuck in the original painted configuration or with the paint removed. It might...depending on the number of dents an individual canteen and cup has collected during it's service life.
I bought a lot of six of them and a few were in worse shape than others.
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Here's one I cleaned up and re-corked.
The mug is secured with an extended loop tied into the cork lanyard. I suggest making careful observation or taking a photo of the original cord before untying it...so that you can re-tie it in the same way.
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Well done Rodfather for getting the thread back on track again!
When this lot get distracted it's like a load of monkeys on amphetamines :ahhh
So Spork, another genius idea eh? It's a good thing you don't work for the forces of evil (I hope) :o
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Well done Rodfather for getting the thread back on track again!...
Won't last long... :D
Sportsmans Guide (http://www.sportsmansguide.com/net/cb/cb.aspx?a=455813) currently has a six-pack of M32s...that's where I got mine (http://fc08.deviantart.net/fs20/f/2007/245/2/3/Evil_w00t_by_duststorm10.gif)
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I'm still up in the air on whether to use the swiss canteen & cup or the german messkit. The german one wouldn't need any modding done to it and has a skillet. Same prices on ebay too. If one was significantly more than the other that would help the decision, but it seems the like only factor in choosing a messkit/cooking pot(also would be a PSK container) is the lack of modding on one. Hmmmmmmm :shrug:
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It also depends on how much storage capacity you want. The Swiss bottle is about 500-600 ml and will fit into a coat pocket.
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Yeah, the larger "pot" of the german messkit is actually the same size as the canteen cup, so they serve the same purpose. They both actually look exactly like the US canteen cup. The only difference really is the two smaller "skillets" and the fact that all of the pieces lock together. I would still use a strap or some other form of keeping it secured together.
I'm still up in the air on it. Sometimes I stay in lala land longer than I should so who knows how long I'll be up here
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I'm confused...this is the German Messkit, which is larger than the USGI Canteen cup.
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Unless you are looking at the Bundeswehr canteen set...
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I'm confused...this is the German Messkit, which is larger than the USGI Canteen cup.
Yeah, that's the german one I'm leaning towards. Looks similar to the US canteen cup. Not same size, but looks similar. I have a US canteen cup already, but nothing to make it a container. I can't use a US canteen because unlike the swiss canteen, the bottom of the US one is tapered, so it wont work. But since the german messkit is larger and doesn't need to be modded(plus the cute little skillets), that's probably what I'm going to get.
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BTW, right now, I have a couple of different PSks in different ypes of containers. I have the small "SAS" altoid tin, the large "SAS" tin and a kit inside a nalgene bottle/cup. I bought the tins from ebay and pretty much replaced everything they came. The original stuff was not up to snuff