Multitool.org Forum

Tool Talk => General Tool Discussion => Topic started by: Grant Lamontagne on October 11, 2017, 03:54:47 PM

Title: New Tool from CRKT- the Technician!
Post by: Grant Lamontagne on October 11, 2017, 03:54:47 PM
In the off chance you have not yet seen it, CRKT has released a new plier based multitool, the Technician:

(http://gallery.multitool.org/var/resizes/CRKT/CRKT-Technician/Technician01.png?m=1507727504)

At first glance it looks pretty standard- butterfly opening plier tool, stuff in the handles.... nice looking with the textured grips, but nothing we haven't seen before, right?  Well, maybe, but there's a good reason why this one should stand out.

(http://gallery.multitool.org/var/resizes/CRKT/CRKT-Technician/Technician02.png?m=1507727505)

Yup- as you can see, printed on the head, plain as day is "KLECKER DESIGN" and that name may sound vaguely familiar to you, and with good reason- Glenn Klecker has an impressive resume, at least as far as tool design goes.  Currently he is running his own shop at www.kleckerknives.com (and the Multitool.org Store (https://store.multitool.org/) is an authorized Klecker Dealership) and he is churning out plastic and wooden knife and multitool kits, as well as the current cell phone case tool, the Stowaway (https://www.kleckerknives.com/klecker-daily-carry/) and the axe multitool called the KLAX (https://www.kleckerknives.com/klax-lumberjack-head-inch/) but he has also designed another tool that you may have heard of.

(http://gallery.multitool.org/var/resizes/Leatherman/Skeletool/Pilot-Run-Skeletool/101_4731.JPG?m=1375996134)

Yup, before setting off on his own or hooking up with CRKT, Glenn was a designer for Leatherman and was instrumental in designing the Skeletool, which is the progenitor of multiple other Leatherman models such as the MUT, Signal, Freestyle and Style series tools.  Not a bad resume huh?

(http://memes.ucoz.com/_nw/13/29922471.jpg)

Glenn is also an MTO member, and has been since the early days, although he doesn't usually advertise it.  So, we should be even more interested in this tool since it comes from one of us.

(http://gallery.multitool.org/var/resizes/CRKT/CRKT-Technician/Technician03.png?m=1507727506)

Of course we aren't idiots that blindly buy things because we are told to, right?  We need to know if something really works, and that is the bottom line for this whole site- reviewing multitools, seeing what works and what doesn't, so let's look at the tool itself, an maybe do some speculating here and there.  :D

(http://gallery.multitool.org/var/resizes/CRKT/CRKT-Technician/Technician05.png?m=1507727506)

CRKT has this to say about it:

Quote
Doing it yourself? There’s a pride in that. To end the day with dirty hands and tired bones marks success in our book. And to get the job done right, there’s one thing we can’t go without: a damn good multi-tool. Shadetree mechanics and automotive masters, meet your new best friend: the Technician™.

(http://gallery.multitool.org/var/resizes/CRKT/CRKT-Technician/Technician06.png?m=1507727506)

We can gather from the images that it seems to be a bit smaller than the usual butterfly opening tool, but perhaps a bit more robust looking.  It sort of reminds me of the compact stoutness of the surprisingly decent DeWalt M-16 (https://forum.multitool.org/index.php/topic,57587.0.html), which I consider a good thing.  Further, it appears that the Technician will also include a One Hand Opening blade with a thumb stud, which could potentially be removed for places where one hand opening is a no no.  Good move!

(http://gallery.multitool.org/var/resizes/CRKT/CRKT-Technician/Technician07.png?m=1507727507)

CRKT goes on to say this about it:

Quote
One Hand Opening Knife Blade
Standard 1/4" Bit Driver
Folding Chisel/Scraper - Great for Scraping Gaskets

(http://gallery.multitool.org/var/resizes/CRKT/CRKT-Technician/Technician08.png?m=1507727508)

Considering how many times I wish a multitool had a scraper (at least in the times I am not carrying a SwissTool or Spirit) I think I am going to appreciate it's inclusion in the Technician.

(http://gallery.multitool.org/var/resizes/CRKT/CRKT-Technician/Technician09.png?m=1507727508)

And look at that plier head!  They don't come much more robust looking than that- Glenn and CRKT obvious intend for this thing to be used hard.

(http://gallery.multitool.org/var/resizes/CRKT/CRKT-Technician/Technician10.png?m=1507727508)

Inside it looks like a modest, but reasonable selection of tools, which is great because I for one am sick of carrying around tools with a thousand functions when I only need like 6 of them.  CRKT ofers the following specs:

Quote
SPECIFICATIONS
Blade Length   2.584" (65.63 mm)
Blade Edge   Plain Edge
Blade Thickness   0.097" (2.46 mm)
Closed Length   4.453" (113.11 mm)
Handle   G10
Style   Multi-Tool
Sheath Material   1680D Weaved Nylon; Black

So, it comes with a sheath, but it looks like the G10 might be thick enough for a pocket clip mod if you wanted.... plus the textured handles seem like they are a long time coming!  No plastic, no slippery steel, a real, hard wearing textured, grippy material at last!

(http://gallery.multitool.org/var/resizes/CRKT/CRKT-Technician/Technician11.png?m=1507727508)

I have to say that I think I am really looking forward to this one.  The design is right, the research is right, the form factor is right, the materials seem right.... I think this might be a serious contender for Multitool of the Year.... in 2018.   :facepalm:

Yup, not available until January, 2018, which is a bit frustrating, but it could be the most exciting new tool we have to look forward to- and at an MSRP of $89.99 I think there is some serious potential here.

Def
Title: Re: New Tool from CRKT- the Technician!
Post by: ThePeacent on October 11, 2017, 04:08:35 PM
hi Boss. I like the idea and the designer behind it, but I am a bit confused as to the toolset.    :tu:
You can see the obvious scraper (ala Schrade 5WR Vise Grip, which I like), the blade, the file/bottle opener, the big flat screwdriver, but I'm lost on the other two.
One seems like a telescoping pointer, and the thing that looks like a futuristic plasma cannon must be the bit driver?

Thanks for clarifying and good news rom you again, boss   :salute:
Title: Re: New Tool from CRKT- the Technician!
Post by: Kev D on October 11, 2017, 04:27:07 PM
hi Boss. I like the idea and the designer behind it, but I am a bit confused as to the toolset.    :tu:
You can see the obvious scraper (ala Schrade 5WR Vise Grip, which I like), the blade, the file/bottle opener, the big flat screwdriver, but I'm lost on the other two.
One seems like a telescoping pointer, and the thing that looks like a futuristic plasma cannon must be the bit driver?

Thanks for clarifying and good news rom you again, boss   :salute:

I'm guessing the telescoping one is a magnetic pick up tool

Edit: yep it is, it says so in the paragraph at the bottom... https://www.crkt.com/technician.html

The Technician™ is built for the discerning. It’s among the first multi-tools to feature a telescoping magnetic pick-up device.

Looks like it's aimed at the auto mechanic. Should be a good one to grip with G10 handles when hands are a little oily/greasy

Thanks for the heads up  :tu:
Title: Re: New Tool from CRKT- the Technician!
Post by: Kev D on October 11, 2017, 04:39:13 PM
I like the look of that CRKT Ripsnort knife that is coming out soon to
Title: Re: New Tool from CRKT- the Technician!
Post by: Etherealicer on October 11, 2017, 05:58:10 PM
I like the look of that CRKT Ripsnort knife that is coming out soon to
I like the name :D
They presented it on this years shot show... took them a while to bring it out. This is one of the knives I'm really looking forward to, like the blade shape.
Title: Re: New Tool from CRKT- the Technician!
Post by: Sazabi on October 11, 2017, 06:22:27 PM
I like the looks of that Technician; I could easily see them modifying the chassis to make a competitor to the Camillus Les Stroud Tool and Leathman Signal; the telescoping magnet pick-up tool would be perfect to replace with a sturdy firesteel rod.

I could see myself picking one of these up.
Title: Re: New Tool from CRKT- the Technician!
Post by: Grathr on October 11, 2017, 08:20:00 PM
:popcorn:

Title: Re: New Tool from CRKT- the Technician!
Post by: Aloha on October 11, 2017, 08:23:38 PM
Great to see Glenn Klecker coming out with this tool.  He certainly has some interesting ideas that for sure. 
Title: Re: New Tool from CRKT- the Technician!
Post by: AimlessWanderer on October 11, 2017, 08:25:30 PM
My thoughts, for what they're worth ....

1) Interesting tool set, particularly the magnetic pick up tool and feeler gauge  :salute:

2) This might be the most usable multitool design that CRKT have produced so far (certainly the least bizarre)  :cheers:

3) Ergonomics (open and closed) appear questionable. It doesn't look particularly comfortable in either pliers or knife use  :think:

4) Non-locking tools, with an outboard plain edged slipjoint blade which would be legal in a large percentage of areas globally  :2tu:

5) I don't like how thin the cord cutter/wire stripper makes the base of the file  :-\

6) Self-servicable screws on pivots, and mod potential for non-automotive users  :tu:

7) Pliers look reasonably substantial, with "cut-outs" for cosmetic purposes only - not significantly section reducing. So long as these aren't hollow cast with a spring in, they look like they should be fairly decent  :tu:

8) Leatherman style impeded main gripping area  :twak:  :rant: WHY ?!?!?  :poh: :megaslap: First job would be to (carefully) take a Dremel to the plier head to open that out to what it should be so that you are not griping with the cutters  ::) Thankfully the wire cutters should (hopefully) be long enough to still have a usable length of wire cutters.

Title: Re: New Tool from CRKT- the Technician!
Post by: Poncho65 on October 11, 2017, 09:08:03 PM
Very cool looking tool :o They always have very unique designs and I always give them kudos for this :salute: :like:
Title: Re: New Tool from CRKT- the Technician!
Post by: AimlessWanderer on October 11, 2017, 10:06:44 PM
This image ....

(https://www.crkt.com/pub/media/catalog/product/cache/1/image/920x412/beff4985b56e3afdbeabfc89641a4582/h/t/httpimages.salsify.comimageuploads--wetldvkp--c_padw_1840h_824fl_clip.png8uszblqyduid5luxfqawr.png)

.... makes it look like the bit driver will be able to stow with a bit in situ.  :tu:

For those with minimal driver needs, this might mean that the tool could potentially "stand alone" with a double ended flat/Phillips, without having to lug around a bit kit.

(Potentially more relevant for those who pocket carry, and who don't like belt sheaths getting snagged on stuff - or who can't get at the belt anyway because they've got overalls on - like for example, a Technician working on Automotive stuff  :whistle:)
Title: Re: New Tool from CRKT- the Technician!
Post by: Smashie on October 12, 2017, 12:16:40 AM
I like it, it's the most interesting pliers based multi released in the last couple of years (variations don't count). It's not perfect, but no mutli ever is, they're compromised by design.

The MSRP on it mean it's going to 'very' affordable when it it's released.

I sat on the launch of this of a week to see if anyone else mentioned it, they didn't, too busy smurf posting
Title: Re: New Tool from CRKT- the Technician!
Post by: Aloha on October 12, 2017, 12:37:24 AM
I like it, it's the most interesting pliers based multi released in the last couple of years (variations don't count). It's not perfect, but no mutli ever is, they're compromised by design.

The MSRP on it mean it's going to 'very' affordable when it it's released.

I sat on the launch of this of a week to see if anyone else mentioned it, they didn't, too busy smurf posting

 :salute:

The good thing is so far not a lot of over hype like some tools that will remain nameless. 
Title: Re: New Tool from CRKT- the Technician!
Post by: ThundahBeagle on October 12, 2017, 04:35:34 AM
Interesting tool, this Technician. I don't know Glenn, but seem to recall his name being out there. Nice looking tool. Some interesting decisions on tool set, like magnetic pick up and quarter in driver, scraper...

My own layman gut thoughts...and not to detract from this, but if it is geared toward the auto mechanic, I wonder if they might consider changing the name to Otto, or Auto, or mechanic or something? I wonder if they would buy it, as mechanics usually have a shop full of dedicated quality tools.

As an IT guy, we are known as Techs in our place of work. I associate technician with less industrial strength than that of an auto mechanic and more with the Geek Squad or IT field. But I will say, I have used bits and wanted a magnetized telescopic pick up many times while running cable or installing servers, etc.

I wonder, except for Paladin/ SOG, whose 540 (?) Is no longer available, will anyone else consider making a plyers based multi with a punch down tool? Maybe with a Menda spudger and little telecoms hook, an Ethernet crimper, the usual wire cutters, assortment of screw drivers, scissors, and the small bit driver from the Blast...

An auto mechanic typically works in a shop and has an assortment of dedicated tools at the ready. Us IT guys may have a small workshop, but are typically responding to someone's desktop, SMART Board, printer, server room, switch stack in a closet, etc. They already make book-sized computer tech tool kits, why not do what Tim L did all those years ago, and amalgamate all the common IT tools into one? That's what vision popped into my mind when the word "Technician" showed up in the title of this thread.

Glenn, I don't know you, sir,  but any chance of something like that coming down the pike? And of course, forgive my ignorance if it already exists, while pointing me to it
Title: Re: New Tool from CRKT- the Technician!
Post by: Distiller on October 12, 2017, 11:29:40 AM
Long time lurker.  First post.

Love the slipjoint and one hand opening combo.  In Scotland (UK) we can't have locking blades (apparently includes scissors, saws, even can openers) unless we have good reason (work, traveling to work)

I use a surge at work, which is very fit for purpose.  And I EDC a Swiss post office cybetool 34... Even though I have converted a leatherman charge tti to UK legal.

A total win for Klecker/crkt would have been to make slots for the stowaway tools in the scales.  The pen, pin, toothpick and tweezers in the cybetool 34 really do come in handy.

Nice platform.  If there were more tools that were easily swappable, this would be a winner.

Making an auto technicians tool is odd as there is always plenty of space in a car to have some full size tools... At work my surge saves me trips to the tool box where the tool I need might be missing, wasting time.  For EDC the Victorinox helps me out with a 1000 small things.

 I would stick to the surge for work purposes over this but would consider it as an EDC if it had scale tools and different/swappable main tools of good quality.
Title: Re: New Tool from CRKT- the Technician!
Post by: Poncho65 on October 12, 2017, 11:37:17 AM
Welcome to :MTO: Distiller :cheers: Great first post as well :salute: :like:
Title: Re: New Tool from CRKT- the Technician!
Post by: Poncho65 on October 12, 2017, 11:39:30 AM
I am with on TB on this as it does seem more geared toward that type of profession rather than a mechanic as well :think: :tu: A different (in a good way tool) that I can't wait to see what comes of it :tu:
Title: Re: New Tool from CRKT- the Technician!
Post by: Distiller on October 12, 2017, 11:50:45 AM
@poncho65 thanks for the welcome.

I should also add a +1 on all the tools being outside opening.

Yeah, swappable tools and interchangeable scales with slots for stowaway tools or similar and this would be a really cool platform, especially for the UK and Europe with our funny blade laws.
Title: Re: New Tool from CRKT- the Technician!
Post by: Grant Lamontagne on October 12, 2017, 01:08:53 PM
Welcome to the forum Distiller- it looks like you have some great ideas there- I really like the idea of slots in the handle for the Stowaway bits, but I am not sure I see that happening, at least not until/unless CRKT also picks up the Stowaway for production.  I'm not sure where Glenn and CRKT stand on that though, so I couldn't speculate on it.

I think there is a lot to look forward to on this tool- as I said, Glenn has been a longtime member here and it's great to see some of the things that MTO members have wanted finally making it into a tool.

Def
Title: Re: New Tool from CRKT- the Technician!
Post by: ReamerPunch on October 13, 2017, 06:49:39 AM
I don't think there's enough space for stowaway implements on this one. You'd be better off with Victorinox scale tools.
And maybe a swiss card style scissor in a scale.

Still, this is so exciting!  :like:

A major brand making a butterfly MT? Yes please!  :cheers:
I sincerely hope this sells well enough for CRKT to make more designs. Glenn certainly has more great ideas in store. :salute:
Title: Re: New Tool from CRKT- the Technician!
Post by: Syncop8r on October 13, 2017, 09:48:42 AM
Wow, this is freaky....
Last night I had an idea about having outside-opening tools at the opposite end to the plier pivots (and not using liner locks) except turned around so that you don't have to open the tool to get at them....
And here it is!

So, unless this has been done before, this configuration makes this a very different tool.
I haven't looked at the tools on this too closely but it looks mod-able....  :popcorn:
Title: Re: New Tool from CRKT- the Technician!
Post by: ReamerPunch on October 13, 2017, 10:28:00 AM
Wow, this is freaky....
Last night I had an idea about having outside-opening tools at the opposite end to the plier pivots (and not using liner locks) except turned around so that you don't have to open the tool to get at them....
And here it is!

So, unless this has been done before, this configuration makes this a very different tool.


Vic Spirit is like that. And Gerber Suspension, and Bear & Son MTs.
And many others.
Title: Re: New Tool from CRKT- the Technician!
Post by: Syncop8r on October 13, 2017, 10:55:23 AM
Wow, this is freaky....
Last night I had an idea about having outside-opening tools at the opposite end to the plier pivots (and not using liner locks) except turned around so that you don't have to open the tool to get at them....
And here it is!

So, unless this has been done before, this configuration makes this a very different tool.


Vic Spirit is like that. And Gerber Suspension, and Bear & Son MTs.
And many others.
D'oh!  :facepalm:
Title: Re: New Tool from CRKT- the Technician!
Post by: Grant Lamontagne on October 13, 2017, 12:37:15 PM
There's still a lot to be interested about this one- the G10 scales alone make it interesting from a grip point of view, and the potential mod-ability with the Torx screws looks like it could be a throw back to the golden age of SOG.

I can also see a  huge benefit to the magnetic pickup tool too.  If nothing else, it is at least different from the usual stuff we find in the handles of a multitool.

Def
Title: Re: New Tool from CRKT- the Technician!
Post by: hiraethus on October 13, 2017, 12:47:49 PM
I sat on the launch of this of a week to see if anyone else mentioned it, they didn't, too busy smurf posting

Will there be a test to see if we've been paying attention?
Title: Re: New Tool from CRKT- the Technician!
Post by: hiraethus on October 13, 2017, 01:08:03 PM
I rather like the tool, but wonder about the large depression in the handles when open.  It looks like it'll be easy to mod too. >:D  I'd like a knifeless version for work.
Title: Re: New Tool from CRKT- the Technician!
Post by: ReamerPunch on October 13, 2017, 03:53:52 PM
Ti scales coming soon?
Title: Re: New Tool from CRKT- the Technician!
Post by: Grant Lamontagne on October 13, 2017, 03:55:53 PM
Ti scales coming soon?

As soon as we find someone with a cnc machine to cut different materials in different patterns... :D

Def
Title: Re: New Tool from CRKT- the Technician!
Post by: AimlessWanderer on October 13, 2017, 04:13:07 PM
I rather like the tool, but wonder about the large depression in the handles when open. It looks like it'll be easy to mod too. >:D  I'd like a knifeless version for work.

Yeah, open or closed, it seems there's an uncomfortable and unnecessary pointy bit that'll dig into your palm
Title: Re: New Tool from CRKT- the Technician!
Post by: Don Pablo on October 13, 2017, 04:20:29 PM
Ti scales coming soon?

As soon as we find someone with a cnc machine to cut different materials in different patterns... :D

Def
Tall order.  ::)
Title: Re: New Tool from CRKT- the Technician!
Post by: Syph007 on October 13, 2017, 06:27:43 PM
Ti scales coming soon?

As soon as we find someone with a cnc machine to cut different materials in different patterns... :D

Def
Tall order.  ::)

:D

Its got 2x more scales then a SAK does though.  Thats 100% more scales! 
Title: Re: New Tool from CRKT- the Technician!
Post by: Syncop8r on October 13, 2017, 10:55:37 PM
I rather like the tool, but wonder about the large depression in the handles when open. It looks like it'll be easy to mod too. >:D  I'd like a knifeless version for work.

Yeah, open or closed, it seems there's an uncomfortable and unnecessary pointy bit that'll dig into your palm
I wonder if that could be massaged out with some modding... I don't really like the scales anyway.
Of course one shouldn't have to...
Title: Re: New Tool from CRKT- the Technician!
Post by: AimlessWanderer on October 13, 2017, 11:15:58 PM
I rather like the tool, but wonder about the large depression in the handles when open. It looks like it'll be easy to mod too. >:D  I'd like a knifeless version for work.

Yeah, open or closed, it seems there's an uncomfortable and unnecessary pointy bit that'll dig into your palm
I wonder if that could be massaged out with some modding... I don't really like the scales anyway.
Of course one shouldn't have to...

Yeah .... you could fix the ergos of the handles, and you could fix the cutters so they don't encroach on the main gripping area .... but to be honest, I've grown tired of buying stuff that I need to finish off or correct  :-\

At least it looks like it should function out of the box, even if it is damn uncomfortable, so that potentially puts it above anything I've seen from  SOG in the last few years :tu:
Title: Re: New Tool from CRKT- the Technician!
Post by: Syncop8r on October 13, 2017, 11:26:40 PM
Yeah .... you could fix the ergos of the handles, and you could fix the cutters so they don't encroach on the main gripping area .... but to be honest, I've grown tired of buying stuff that I need to finish off or correct  :-\
Time for you to start designing multitools then, show them how it's done.  :pok:  ;)
Title: Re: New Tool from CRKT- the Technician!
Post by: Grant Lamontagne on October 13, 2017, 11:57:39 PM
Honestly I would love to see Al in the R&D or testing departments of any and all manufacturers.....

Def
Title: Re: New Tool from CRKT- the Technician!
Post by: Syncop8r on October 14, 2017, 12:04:59 AM
Honestly I would love to see Al in the R&D or testing departments of any and all manufacturers.....
I'm serious too - I'm not saying "let's see you do better". Well actually I am. I would like to see what he would come up with.  :popcorn:
Title: Re: New Tool from CRKT- the Technician!
Post by: AimlessWanderer on October 14, 2017, 12:09:48 AM
Yeah .... you could fix the ergos of the handles, and you could fix the cutters so they don't encroach on the main gripping area .... but to be honest, I've grown tired of buying stuff that I need to finish off or correct  :-\
Time for you to start designing multitools then, show them how it's done.  :pok:  ;)
These issues may not have originated with the designer. Sometimes there are misinterpretations further down the line. There was no specific instruction to scale down the bit driver on the Zilla Jr. Unfortunately, neither was there a specific instruction not to.  ::)

Honestly I would love to see Al in the R&D or testing departments of any and all manufacturers.....

Def

 :salute:

I think there's probably a few members here who could identify and remedy potential issues quite easily if they were given a sneak peek at the tech spec, drawings and process routings.
Title: Re: New Tool from CRKT- the Technician!
Post by: Don Pablo on October 14, 2017, 12:11:12 AM
Honestly I would love to see Al in the R&D or testing departments of any and all manufacturers.....
I'm serious too - I'm not saying "let's see you do better". Well actually I am. I would like to see what he would come up with.  :popcorn:
+1!
Al would be a great person to have on your team to pick apart your designs for flaws, and I'm sure that his designs would be proper good. :cheers: :salute:

I wonder if certain multitools have ever been tested in the real world by real people for good egronomics, sensible tool set, etc.  ::)
Title: Re: New Tool from CRKT- the Technician!
Post by: AimlessWanderer on October 14, 2017, 12:13:48 AM
Honestly I would love to see Al in the R&D or testing departments of any and all manufacturers.....
I'm serious too - I'm not saying "let's see you do better". Well actually I am. I would like to see what he would come up with.  :popcorn:

My creative efforts are diverted elsewhere at the moment.

Although if someone was to make me a very lucrative offer. ...  :whistle:
Title: Re: New Tool from CRKT- the Technician!
Post by: Grant Lamontagne on October 14, 2017, 01:37:34 AM
After all of these years I am surprised we aren't seeing manufacturers come us more for testing and evaluation.

The small guys with their Kickstarter stuff makes sense- that's their baby and they have spent a lot of time making it suit their needs and anything different just waters it down in their minds.... but the major manufacturers haven't got as much personal effort invested and have more of a desire for mass market appeal.

But then maybe I am just biased in thinking we would be qualified for such a service when the manufacturers have a whole FB land full of ass kissers.

Def
Title: Re: New Tool from CRKT- the Technician!
Post by: Distiller on October 14, 2017, 12:31:23 PM
Interesting conversation.

In the world of CAD, 3D printing, CNC it wouldn't take years and a tonne of money to develop and produce something.

It looks like there are lots of people on this forum who have lots of good ideas.  I see the R&D bit is kind of a commercial thing.  I have a few good ideas on multitools but with no interest or time to really do anything with it.  Good ideas are easy.  Pushing a good idea into reality is a big process.

Has this forum had a fantasy multitool thread?  Might be fun.
Title: Re: New Tool from CRKT- the Technician!
Post by: Steinar on October 14, 2017, 01:54:38 PM
After all of these years I am surprised we aren't seeing manufacturers come us more for testing and evaluation.

Look at the two threads for least and most favorite SAK tools: I think we in total  list pretty much every available tool in both threads.  :D
Title: Re: New Tool from CRKT- the Technician!
Post by: AimlessWanderer on October 14, 2017, 05:15:22 PM
After all of these years I am surprised we aren't seeing manufacturers come us more for testing and evaluation.

Look at the two threads for least and most favorite SAK tools: I think we in total  list pretty much every available tool in both threads.  :D

That's why I didn't criticise the tool set on this one. I have no need of a feeler gauge, but I am sure some people will welcome the addition. I do like the pick-up tool though, and the plain edged blade. My main issues on this are the impeded gripping area (cutters encroaching on the arc on large teeth), and in-hand comfort. Aside from that, I think it's a good looking tool which does well in respect of being legal to carry in many places globally.
Title: Re: New Tool from CRKT- the Technician!
Post by: Syph007 on October 14, 2017, 07:34:14 PM
You people keep talking about the handle shape, and I didnt even really look close at it, but now that I have it does seem odd.

I'd still buy one though. 

Title: Re: New Tool from CRKT- the Technician!
Post by: AimlessWanderer on October 14, 2017, 08:54:04 PM
 :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
Title: Re: New Tool from CRKT- the Technician!
Post by: Syncop8r on October 14, 2017, 09:59:57 PM
You people keep talking about the handle shape, and I didnt even really look close at it, but now that I have it does seem odd.
Funny how that's what you immediately thought of...  :pok:
Title: Re: New Tool from CRKT- the Technician!
Post by: sLaughterMed on October 15, 2017, 12:57:31 AM
So uh, what's the scraper made of? Not to be a downer (because I actually love CRKT as a company), but if the gasket scraper is steel, it's partially compromised, seeing as it can't be used on aluminum engine blocks.

Otherwise, it looks great. I like the magnetic pickup tool, it makes perfect sense for a mechanic to just have on them. Now I can get my 10mm sockets out of the engine bay without going back to the toolbox.

Title: Re: New Tool from CRKT- the Technician!
Post by: gadgetman7 on December 31, 2017, 05:17:22 AM
Looks like a great tool for our members with restrictive knife laws but the non locking tools are a deal breaker for me on a tool this large.
Title: Re: New Tool from CRKT- the Technician!
Post by: Smashie on January 12, 2018, 02:56:48 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mO2-uRgWCvQ
Title: Re: New Tool from CRKT- the Technician!
Post by: ThePeacent on January 12, 2018, 04:34:27 PM
OK it still looks good and the video (thanks for it9 is straight to the point, but...

- the peeler and chisel look like they could easily fold on you and cause serious harm. Yes, be sensible and use common sense with slip joints, don't twist etc. but these look like a dangerous thing to me  :P
- nice on the OHO slipjoint blade for an all legal tool, but it doesn't help that the blade is opened with two hands in the video and then fiddled with (semi folded) with the use of both hands...again  :facepalm:
- detent seems too strong? at least there is no clumping. And opening the tool... it needs some oiling and breaking in I guess, in the video looks difficult and too stiff overall
- liners, G10 and tools  construction makes t way too thick, especially considering the nr. of functions it provides
- sheath is exactly like the Ganzo ones = super thick and bulky yet not so durable (stitching) and not allowing for side add-ons, lateral pockets (AAA light, pen...) or anything else  :-\
- price is exaggerated. Look for instance at the SOG 2018 Offerings and compare, or even with current production tools from Gerber or LM
Title: Re: New Tool from CRKT- the Technician!
Post by: Raukodur on January 13, 2018, 01:49:43 AM
Nice to see some variety on the tools - main complaint would be that it looks very thick for the number of tools, that is I suppose to do with the bit driver and magnetic pick up tool.

Also, once someone has done a hands on test, I would be interested to know how much pressure you can put on the handles when using the pliers, it looks like they would dig into your hands.

If they were going with a non-standard shape of the handles, surely it would have made sense to copy the spirit handles, which curve towards each other when in pliers mode, so they are closer together and easier to use even when the pliers are open.
Title: Re: New Tool from CRKT- the Technician!
Post by: WoodsDuck on January 13, 2018, 05:16:15 AM
I'm on the same page as a lot of you guys with this one.

Things I like;

Textured G10 handle scales
Magnetic pickup tool (use those things all the time)
Chisel
Outside opening tools
One-hand opening blade

Things I don't like;

Bulk to versatility ratio
Feeler gauge (I just never need one of these, personally)
Apparent stiffness of pliers deployment. Though this could be a non-issue with lube and/or work
Two-sided file. Three is better, but I tolerate this on other tools, so it's not a deal breaker

Things I'm unsure about;

Ergonomics
No locking tools

Definitely a couple cool ideas here. I'll be keen to see some reviews.
Title: Re: New Tool from CRKT- the Technician!
Post by: ReamerPunch on January 13, 2018, 05:56:19 AM
I would have liked to see the person be more familiar with the tool.
It looked stiff, and he could have fully closed an implement before deploying the next. The blade did not look one-handed to me.
I do not mind non-locking blades, saws, files, but implements which you use by pushing the  tip against something, like screwdrivers, chisels, or awls, those need to at least have good retention.
I do not like the bottle opener placement, or even the inclusion of it. Why bother?

I do not like the handle shape and splay. I hope the field test it and tweak things a bit and have an awesome MT upon release.
Title: Re: New Tool from CRKT- the Technician!
Post by: WoodsDuck on January 13, 2018, 01:16:45 PM
I would have liked to see the person be more familiar with the tool.
It looked stiff, and he could have fully closed an implement before deploying the next. The blade did not look one-handed to me.

I do not mind non-locking blades, saws, files, but implements which you use by pushing the  tip against something, like screwdrivers, chisels, or awls, those need to at least have good retention.
I do not like the bottle opener placement, or even the inclusion of it. Why bother?

I do not like the handle shape and splay. I hope the field test it and tweak things a bit and have an awesome MT upon release.

Yeah, that demo video was clearly not very well thought out. Also, forgot to mention it in my list, but you're right about the bottle opener. Terrible placement and an obvious afterthought. "Everything needs a bottle opener!"
I'm hoping the whole thing turns out to be more wieldy and ergonomic in person, which would go a long way to securing it decent sales.
Title: Re: New Tool from CRKT- the Technician!
Post by: ThePeacent on January 13, 2018, 01:18:01 PM
I would have liked to see the person be more familiar with the tool.
It looked stiff, and he could have fully closed an implement before deploying the next. The blade did not look one-handed to me.
I do not mind non-locking blades, saws, files, but implements which you use by pushing the  tip against something, like screwdrivers, chisels, or awls, those need to at least have good retention.
I do not like the bottle opener placement, or even the inclusion of it. Why bother?

I do not like the handle shape and splay. I hope the field test it and tweak things a bit and have an awesome MT upon release.

you and I think alike.

Pushing/thrusting a sharp thing without lock or strong detent is a problem waiting to happen    :-[
The OHO blade might be openable with a single hand but then I'd expect the (official advertisement) video to show that it can be done   :ahhh
you usually show one thing at a time, if you pull other stuff out they are in the way and difficult the vision and analysis of the individual implement and how it works, its space efficiency, its size, etc.

the MT might be super, but the video is poorly done and looks unprepared, like the person had never even seen the tool before
Title: Re: New Tool from CRKT- the Technician!
Post by: ReamerPunch on January 13, 2018, 02:25:24 PM
Watched the video again, and I have more concerns.
This is just under 4.5" long and looks thick. Basically the size of a Supertool 300/Surge. Should there not be more tools in the handles?

At $89.99, this is a bit up there for what it offers. I paid $88 for a Surge.

Also, the telescoping magnet seems too short.
Based on the video, it expands to 5". That's a bit stubby. Maybe it is not expanded to its full length, but it does not seem to expand much more.
(https://i.imgur.com/SPez6Fv.png)

The only telescoping thing on a multi-tool that comes to mind is the pointer on the Wenger SAKs. That extends to 12" which is significant.
My dedicated telescoping magnet is 4.5" long and extends to 20" not counting its length when retracted.
My second one is 7" retracted, and extends to an additional 24".
As it is, it is not an implement I am excited to see on this MT.
Title: Re: New Tool from CRKT- the Technician!
Post by: ThePeacent on January 14, 2018, 05:58:17 PM
Watched the video again, and I have more concerns.
This is just under 4.5" long and looks thick. Basically the size of a Supertool 300/Surge. Should there not be more tools in the handles?

At $89.99, this is a bit up there for what it offers. I paid $88 for a Surge.

Also, the telescoping magnet seems too short.
Based on the video, it expands to 5". That's a bit stubby. Maybe it is not expanded to its full length, but it does not seem to expand much more.
(https://i.imgur.com/SPez6Fv.png)

The only telescoping thing on a multi-tool that comes to mind is the pointer on the Wenger SAKs. That extends to 12" which is significant.
My dedicated telescoping magnet is 4.5" long and extends to 20" not counting its length when retracted.
My second one is 7" retracted, and extends to an additional 24".
As it is, it is not an implement I am excited to see on this MT.

I was also deceived by its length. All my telescoping pointers, magnets or instruments (loupes) seem like they'd give a much greater length for that sized rod/barrel when fully deployed   :think:

also the price seems a bit steep compared to current offerings or 2018 releases from other companies. Generally speaking CRKT is known for doing original albeit budget/inexpensive tools and knives, usually not in the same category as products from brands speSmurfpillsed in tools or knives
Title: Re: New Tool from CRKT- the Technician!
Post by: David Bowen on January 25, 2018, 01:38:34 AM
Received my Technician today, very interesting tool for sure. First off the bat,  I thought dang this thing is a beast. This is by no means a small tool or a tool for people with small hands.

I don't own a surge anymore but it feels like a boat anchor. I like the G10 handles but the shape of them is awkward as heck. Closed isn't too bad but open is not that comfortable, that hump digs into my hand/fingers. Pliers are really big but mine have play in them, not sure how bad it will effect usage. I tried them on a coat hanger and it passed. Failed to cut paper/card stock though. Also checked out the feeler gauge because I didn't know they would do this one in a multitool. When researching feeler gauges online they make different sizes, all together in a kit. This one is a ramp with measurements in milimeters. Rather than inserting into a gap to check width you would have to slide in the gauge at the edge of the gap sideways.

Knife opens fairly easy, extremely sharp. File seems useless like some SOG tools we have complained about. Cord cutter may work but doesn't seem that sharp. Chisel seems pretty nice and look forward to using it. Driver is nice, wish it came with more available as a bit kit. Comes with a #2 phillips and a #1 flat.

 The telescopic magnetic pickup is cool and has a strong magnet in it, just wish it had a longer reach. All this is very preliminary and I'm likely to change my opinions when I get to testing it out.

It's late and I don't have good lighting but I took a couple pictures. Of the size, pliers and feeler gauge.

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180125/b06603b6d5071a1ba8d3104bf3e722dd.jpg)

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180125/95ec84b0387b40e0fc35b05a2f61bc8c.jpg)

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180125/71df50055795f3b547c7944801cff986.jpg)

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180125/729bf120a54c7cdbba28f0ddd0d732f9.jpg)

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180125/d143818a7b1f5313c96d5f12341acb10.jpg)

Sent from my SM-G935V using Tapatalk

Title: Re: New Tool from CRKT- the Technician!
Post by: Blackbeard on January 25, 2018, 02:01:29 AM
the handle shape combined with G10 looks very uncomfortable
Title: Re: New Tool from CRKT- the Technician!
Post by: Kampfer on January 25, 2018, 04:25:21 AM
As much as I like Glenn and love his skeletool, that pos is just awful.
Played with for a few minutes and I had enough.  :td:
Title: Re: New Tool from CRKT- the Technician!
Post by: Higgins617 on January 25, 2018, 04:31:56 AM
As much as I like Glenn and love his skeletool, that pos is just awful.
Played with for a few minutes and I had enough.  :td:

Quality-wise or just the tool itself?
Title: Re: New Tool from CRKT- the Technician!
Post by: Kampfer on January 25, 2018, 05:11:35 AM
As much as I like Glenn and love his skeletool, that pos is just awful.
Played with for a few minutes and I had enough.  :td:

Quality-wise or just the tool itself?
BOTH! :facepalm:
Title: Re: New Tool from CRKT- the Technician!
Post by: David Bowen on January 25, 2018, 05:27:41 AM
I've owned many many CRKT multitools, some good, some bad. On the surface this sounds like a good idea and Glenn is a Great guy. Perhaps poor execution on their part is to blame. Even my Bivy is not anything amazing, it's interesting and it works but nothing ever seems in the category of say Gerber, Leatherman or SOG. I don't think that it's high expectations on my part. I'll show this thing no mercy and do a fitting review for it.

Sent from my SM-G935V using Tapatalk

Title: Re: New Tool from CRKT- the Technician!
Post by: Don Pablo on January 25, 2018, 09:27:11 AM
I'll show this thing no mercy and do a fitting review for it.
:popcorn:
I like knowing stress limits.
Title: Re: New Tool from CRKT- the Technician!
Post by: ThePeacent on January 25, 2018, 09:56:17 AM
this beast seems like a hard use-oriented tool so I look forward to your review and putting it through its paces,  :salute:
it will be interesting for sure   :cheers:
Title: Re: New Tool from CRKT- the Technician!
Post by: pa_strunk on January 25, 2018, 08:42:23 PM
Well I have to say I agree totally agree with the last few comments. Just received mine, and if your not a yeti or big foot your going to find this tools ergonomics less than desirable. Like the tool selection and unique approach.
Title: Re: New Tool from CRKT- the Technician!
Post by: WWW on January 26, 2018, 12:24:02 AM
Everybody is giving praise to the mag-pickup tool, but as mentioned how long it is will affect it's usefulness right?
Title: Re: New Tool from CRKT- the Technician!
Post by: ReamerPunch on March 17, 2018, 02:58:01 PM
Any reviews on this thing?
Title: Re: New Tool from CRKT- the Technician!
Post by: David Bowen on March 22, 2018, 11:51:58 PM
As you can see from the review section I'm working on some now. I'll have one up within a week buddy, busy busy with work lately.

Sent from my SM-G935V using Tapatalk

Title: Re: New Tool from CRKT- the Technician!
Post by: gerleatherberman on March 23, 2018, 03:48:02 AM
I did a little photo comparison(and some discussion), but it doesn't come up, because I mispelled the name if the tool in the title.
https://forum.multitool.org/index.php/topic,76088.0.html

David,
Looking forward to your review! :popcorn:
Title: Re: New Tool from CRKT- the Technician!
Post by: zoidberg on March 23, 2018, 07:09:05 AM
Fixed the title.   :tu:
Title: Re: New Tool from CRKT- the Technician!
Post by: gerleatherberman on March 23, 2018, 01:11:21 PM
Fixed the title.   :tu:
Thank you, zoidberg! :)
Title: Re: New Tool from CRKT- the Technician!
Post by: David Bowen on March 24, 2018, 05:18:43 AM
Any reviews on this thing?
Here you go ReamerPunch, hot off the press.

https://forum.multitool.org/index.php/topic,76534.0.html

Sent from my SM-G935V using Tapatalk

Title: Re: New Tool from CRKT- the Technician!
Post by: ReamerPunch on March 24, 2018, 03:54:06 PM
Any reviews on this thing?
Here you go ReamerPunch, hot off the press.

https://forum.multitool.org/index.php/topic,76534.0.html

Sent from my SM-G935V using Tapatalk

 :like: :salute:
Title: Re: New Tool from CRKT- the Technician!
Post by: ReamerPunch on December 17, 2019, 06:40:32 PM
TX Tool Crib's review on it. Great reviewer, lots of tools covered already, and no BS. Check his videos out if you haven't already. :hatsoff:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8EItPBuNOWM