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Tool Talk => Swiss Army Knights Forum => Topic started by: Antonis Zita on November 15, 2018, 09:38:02 PM
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Hallo friends,
Before some years i bought this sak on sale. I searched in the web for informations but i didn't t found much.
Does anybody else have a Nomad in olive green? Is it rare?
The model code is 0.8353.4 and the box is brown.
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Second pic
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Hi Antonis,
I don't know anything about the green-scaled Nomad, but I just thought I'd share that I have a black Nomad. I bought it in a knife, pen, and pipe shop in Dublin Ireland in 2010. I've never seen a green one, so congratulations on a what seems like a rarer SAK.
Myron
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Hi Antonis,
I don't know anything about the green-scaled Nomad, but I just thought I'd share that I have a black Nomad. I bought it in a knife, pen, and pipe shop in Dublin Ireland in 2010. I've never seen a green one, so congratulations on a what seems like a rarer SAK.
Myron
Thank you Myron. But rare or not, I like this knife a lot. It is slim, light, robust and very comfortable. The linerlock makes the blade very secure and the big cap lifter is SO usefull.
Actually, the one on the foto is my sak in the work. I use it every day. I keep a second one, unused, new in the box. Love this color.
:climber:
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Nice and that you have a back up says a lot. I have backups in case of loss or retirement.
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Nice and that you have a back up says a lot. I have backups in case of loss or retirement.
I try to do it only if i like a Sak or an MT very much. I am addicted, but i keep some control. At least, until now...
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Nice and that you have a back up says a lot. I have backups in case of loss or retirement.
I try to do it only if i like a Sak or an MT very much. I am addicted, but i keep some control. At least, until now...
My same thinking also..only on models I like. Being retired, I do have to keep control. :tu:
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No clue if it's rare or not (mine is black too) but i do agree they are a great knife to carry :tu:
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Antonis,
Does your olive drab Nomad have the DE-GM 9305297 patent number on the shank of the blade?
Myron
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Antonis,
Does your olive drab Nomad have the DE-GM 9305297 patent number on the shank of the blade?
Myron
Hi Myron. Yes it does. I think all the linerlock, 111mm Vic models have this patend No.
I searched for this product code: 0.8353.4 but there is nothing in the interner. The last digit (4) is for the color/type of the handle. Nowhere a reference. The only thing i found is a video on you tube, of a german guy, who also wonders about this model.
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I like this knife a lot. It is slim, light, robust and very comfortable. The linerlock makes the blade very secure and the big cap lifter is SO usefull.
Actually, the one on the foto is my sak in the work. I use it every day. I keep a second one, unused, new in the box. Love this color.
:climber:
I have a Centurion. A Nomad with a Phillips instead of corkscrew. It's my primary work knife, used daily, and I love it for the same reasons you love your Nomad.
The Nomad and Centurion are basically a heavy duty Spartan and Tinker. Great alternatives for outdoor use.
I believe there's a one hand opening variation of the Nomad. Serrated blade only, though. ???
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Hi Antonis. :cheers:
Since I don’t know anything about that kind of SAK, I’ll just wish you a welcome to MTO. :cheers:
Hi Antonis,
I don't know anything about the green-scaled Nomad, but I just thought I'd share that I have a black Nomad. I bought it in a knife, pen, and pipe shop in Dublin Ireland in 2010. I've never seen a green one, so congratulations on a what seems like a rarer SAK.
Myron
Hey, I know that shop!
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Here a picture of a 'military' flyer (dated late Nineties).
These knives all have green handles!
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Here a picture of a 'military' flyer (dated late Nineties).
These knives all have green handles!
That's awesome. We should add that to the Wiki!
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Found another green one. This one is for sale.
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Hi Myron. Yes it does. I think all the linerlock, 111mm Vic models have this patend No.
I searched for this product code: 0.8353.4 but there is nothing in the interner. The last digit (4) is for the color/type of the handle. Nowhere a reference. The only thing i found is a video on you tube, of a german guy, who also wonders about this model.
I asked because my black Nomad that I've had for some time does not have the DM-GE number. However, I found a green one for sale recently and it does have the DM-GE number on the shank. It's a new-old-stock specimen and I couldn't resist it with the cool red shield!
Here's my black Nomad. When the green one arrives I'll take a family photo for this thread. :)
(https://i.imgur.com/JBm7ADi.jpg?1)
(https://i.imgur.com/GqinMkr.jpg)
Hey, I know that shop!
Don Pablo,
If memory serves it's right around the corner from Trinity College, outside of the southern-most end of the campus I think? I almost bought a Peterson pipe while I was in there but resisted. I will always have the black Nomad and it will always remind me of Dublin, one of the truly great cities.
Myron
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Hey, I know that shop!
Don Pablo,
If memory serves it's right around the corner from Trinity College, outside of the southern-most end of the campus I think? I almost bought a Peterson pipe while I was in there but resisted. I will always have the black Nomad and it will always remind me of Dublin, one of the truly great cities.
Myron
Yup, it is. I went there a few times to stare at the SAKs. :D There is also an amazing pen shop not far away.
Great? :think:
Well, I suppose that it’s in the eye of the beholder. :) Glad you had a good time. :cheers:
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Antonis,
Does your olive drab Nomad have the DE-GM 9305297 patent number on the shank of the blade?
Myron
Hi Myron. Yes it does. I think all the linerlock, 111mm Vic models have this patend No.
I searched for this product code: 0.8353.4 but there is nothing in the interner. The last digit (4) is for the color/type of the handle. Nowhere a reference. The only thing i found is a video on you tube, of a german guy, who also wonders about this model.
Καλώς όρισες στο ΜΤΟ Αντώνη. Είναι φοβερό μέρος. Μόνο να, πρόσεχε το πορτοφόλι σου :D
DE-GM 9305297 is a German Patent Registration number. https://forum.multitool.org/index.php/topic,62222.msg1157231.html#msg1157231
There are a few more threads on this, just search the forum with this number for further reading.
Not all 111mm linerlocks have this stamp. It is found on the older, narrower profile blades. :salute:
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Hi Antonis. :cheers:
Since I don’t know anything about that kind of SAK, I’ll just wish you a welcome to MTO. :cheers:
Hi Antonis,
I don't know anything about the green-scaled Nomad, but I just thought I'd share that I have a black Nomad. I bought it in a knife, pen, and pipe shop in Dublin Ireland in 2010. I've never seen a green one, so congratulations on a what seems like a rarer SAK.
Myron
Hey, I know that shop!
Thank you, don Pablo. :salute:
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Hi Myron. Yes it does. I think all the linerlock, 111mm Vic models have this patend No.
I searched for this product code: 0.8353.4 but there is nothing in the interner. The last digit (4) is for the color/type of the handle. Nowhere a reference. The only thing i found is a video on you tube, of a german guy, who also wonders about this model.
I asked because my black Nomad that I've had for some time does not have the DM-GE number. However, I found a green one for sale recently and it does have the DM-GE number on the shank. It's a new-old-stock specimen and I couldn't resist it with the cool red shield!
Here's my black Nomad. When the green one arrives I'll take a family photo for this thread. :)
(https://i.imgur.com/JBm7ADi.jpg?1)
(https://i.imgur.com/GqinMkr.jpg)
Hey, I know that shop!
Don Pablo,
If memory serves it's right around the corner from Trinity College, outside of the southern-most end of the campus I think? I almost bought a Peterson pipe while I was in there but resisted. I will always have the black Nomad and it will always remind me of Dublin, one of the truly great cities.
Myron
Hi Myron, today i did a small search again and it seems that this Nomad is new for sale in russian sites. Some of these online shops describe it as "picnicker"... They sell it also in a nice blue color.
Waiting for some photos of your new beauty. :climber:
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Antonis,
Does your olive drab Nomad have the DE-GM 9305297 patent number on the shank of the blade?
Myron
Hi Myron. Yes it does. I think all the linerlock, 111mm Vic models have this patend No.
I searched for this product code: 0.8353.4 but there is nothing in the interner. The last digit (4) is for the color/type of the handle. Nowhere a reference. The only thing i found is a video on you tube, of a german guy, who also wonders about this model.
Καλώς όρισες στο ΜΤΟ Αντώνη. Είναι φοβερό μέρος. Μόνο να, πρόσεχε το πορτοφόλι σου :D
DE-GM 9305297 is a German Patent Registration number. https://forum.multitool.org/index.php/topic,62222.msg1157231.html#msg1157231
There are a few more threads on this, just search the forum with this number for further reading.
Not all 111mm linerlocks have this stamp. It is found on the older, narrower profile blades. :salute:
Καλώς σας βρήκα Firiki. Μου αρέσει ήδη πολύ το φόρουμ. Όσο για το πορτοφόλι, άστο καλύτερα...
Μένω Θεσσαλονίκη. Χάρηκα για τη γνωριμία.
Firiki, thank you for the information. :tu:
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Yup, it is. I went there a few times to stare at the SAKs. :D There is also an amazing pen shop not far away.
Great? :think:
Well, I suppose that it’s in the eye of the beholder. :) Glad you had a good time. :cheers:
Well, the grass is always greener on the other side of the fence, and so forth. We have enjoyed all of the many times we've been in Dublin. :)
With a little luck I may find myself there again this coming June. I'll drop you a line and maybe we could meet for pints! :cheers:
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Yup, it is. I went there a few times to stare at the SAKs. :D There is also an amazing pen shop not far away.
Great? :think:
Well, I suppose that it’s in the eye of the beholder. :) Glad you had a good time. :cheers:
Well, the grass is always greener on the other side of the fence, and so forth. We have enjoyed all of the many times we've been in Dublin. :)
With a little luck I may find myself there again this coming June. I'll drop you a line and maybe we could meet for pints! :cheers:
Maybe! It would be awesome. :cheers:
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Great info and photos! :like:
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I was sure i had a red Nomad too but it turns out to be a Picnicker, fully serrated and slide locked, just for interest my black Nomad does have the DE-GM stamp :tu:
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Ok, here a slightly better snap shot of the Vic military brochure from the Nineties. (I can't get the colors right...)
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Here a picture of two slightly different DAK's (which in fact are Centurions - and Centurions are Nomads without a Cork Screw, but with Phillips instead.).
Top is the most common one and had the DE-GM reverse tang stamp.. Bottom is one rarely seen, and has no reverse tang stamp.
The difference is in the width of the blades. The one with the DE-GM tang stamp has a width of around 15,5 mm; the one without the DE-GM has a width of about 16,3 mm.
My guess is that Vx made the blades a little bit stronger when they changed to the 'clear'' tang stamp.
The side-lock models have a blade width an average width of around 14,8 mm.
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Nice and great information, thanks for sharing. :tu:
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Waiting for some photos of your new beauty. :climber:
Hi Antonis,
And here it is! With its 111 mm brothers:
(https://i.imgur.com/u7bHWfp.jpg)
The difference in blade shape between the black non-DE-GM blade and the green DE-GM blade is really noticeable in person.
(https://i.imgur.com/7mOYEIQ.jpg)
And of course no DE-GM number on my black Nomad. I wonder why not?
(https://i.imgur.com/j3dFQTH.jpg)
One more just for fun:
(https://i.imgur.com/DurM93g.jpg)
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Waiting for some photos of your new beauty. :climber:
Hi Antonis,
And here it is! With its 111 mm brothers:
(https://i.imgur.com/u7bHWfp.jpg)
The difference in blade shape between the black non-DE-GM blade and the green DE-GM blade is really noticeable in person.
(https://i.imgur.com/7mOYEIQ.jpg)
And of course no DE-GM number on my black Nomad. I wonder why not?
(https://i.imgur.com/j3dFQTH.jpg)
One more just for fun:
(https://i.imgur.com/DurM93g.jpg)
Congrats Myron! :woohoo:
And the pics are great! I can see what you say about the different blade shape, because yesterday i bought a Trekker :D.
No patent number on the blade. Another thing i noticed, is that there is no "press" written on the linerlock on the Nomad and
the whole linerlock doesnt sticks out as much as on the Trekker.
I wish you good times with your new, beautifull Nomad. :salute:
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Waiting for some photos of your new beauty. :climber:
Hi Antonis,
And here it is! With its 111 mm brothers:
(https://i.imgur.com/u7bHWfp.jpg)
The difference in blade shape between the black non-DE-GM blade and the green DE-GM blade is really noticeable in person.
(https://i.imgur.com/7mOYEIQ.jpg)
And of course no DE-GM number on my black Nomad. I wonder why not?
(https://i.imgur.com/j3dFQTH.jpg)
One more just for fun:
(https://i.imgur.com/DurM93g.jpg)
Congrats Myron! :woohoo:
And the pics are great! I can see what you say about the different blade shape, because yesterday i bought a Trekker :D.
No patent number on the blade. Another thing i noticed, is that there is no "press" written on the linerlock on the Nomad and
the whole linerlock doesnt sticks out as much as on the Trekker.
I wish you good times with your new, beautifull Nomad. :salute:
I think most made 2007 and before had that old linerlock. During the development of the Soldier M2008 they determined changes were needed, and enlarged and beefed up the lock. My Fireman, which came in a box with 2007-dated owner's guide has the old, low profile lock. Not as easy to release the lock with gloves on, but it is more comfortable for extended use. And might I add, I bought the knife new out of the Victorinox case from a local cutlery store in 2016--for less money than a Trekker!
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I think most made 2007 and before had that old linerlock. During the development of the Soldier M2008 they determined changes were needed, and enlarged and beefed up the lock. My Fireman, which came in a box with 2007-dated owner's guide has the old, low profile lock. Not as easy to release the lock with gloves on, but it is more comfortable for extended use. And might I add, I bought the knife new out of the Victorinox case from a local cutlery store in 2016--for less money than a Trekker!
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Hi Cody and thank you for the information. Is your fireman red? I have a red one. With lower lockliner profile. I agree that it is more comfortable than the new linerlock.
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Μένω Θεσσαλονίκη. Χάρηκα για τη γνωριμία.
Κι' εγώ χαίρομαι :cheers: Μένω Αθήνα όμως έχω οικογένεια στην Σαλονίκη.
I have a Fireman with VSMS on one side of the tang and the patent # in question on the other. Any others have this variant?
I agree that the old linerlock is more comfortable for prolonged use. The newer one is easier to activate, though.
The most important difference I notice between the two blades can be found at the tip. Not easy to realise from the pictures but its whole shape makes the newer blade seem much larger!