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Title: Fake Item on Ebay
Post by: ICanFixThat on June 16, 2012, 02:56:13 AM: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Victorinox-Swiss-Army-Knife-Multi-Feature-All-You-Want-IN-ONE-BOX-Black-/270997212289?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3f18b14c81 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Victorinox-Swiss-Army-Knife-Multi-Feature-All-You-Want-IN-ONE-BOX-Black-/270997212289?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3f18b14c81)
Title: Re: Fake Item on Ebay
Post by: Tyler_ on June 16, 2012, 03:35:12 AM: I reported it. I'm sick of these Hong Kong knock offs using my favorite knife's good name.
Title: Re: Fake Item on Ebay
Post by: Tyler_ on June 16, 2012, 03:37:23 AM: also,

You can literally see how cheap the steel is by looking at the tools, not to mention the awl looks like ass
Title: Re: Fake Item on Ebay
Post by: felinevet on June 16, 2012, 03:40:20 AM: I also reported it and urge everyone to do so so maybe eBay will do something.
Title: Re: Fake Item on Ebay
Post by: ironraven on June 16, 2012, 04:15:48 AM: I saw make them eat it.
Title: Re: Fake Item on Ebay
Post by: Syph007 on June 16, 2012, 04:33:04 AM: Reported too. Cheap knockoff junk is such a waste of time and energy to even make.
Title: Re: Fake Item on Ebay
Post by: enki_ck on June 16, 2012, 04:38:27 AM: Reported. :salute:
Title: Re: Fake Item on Ebay
Post by: MultiMat on June 16, 2012, 04:42:36 AM: I reported them as well.
When ever I see the knockoff Gerber DETs for sale at Oz Ebay I report them , does Ebay ever do anything with sellers who systemically sell counterfeit items :think: :think:, I reckon Ebay has mastered the art of sitting on hands , when it comes too shonky users/sellers :think:
Title: Re: Fake Item on Ebay
Post by: Currahee on June 16, 2012, 05:12:22 AM: It appears that the spring on those bogus scissors is already sprung!

I guess such blatant copyright and trademark infringements don't concern you when you operate in a third world country?

Edit: Report filed!
Title: Re: Fake Item on Ebay
Post by: alelser on June 16, 2012, 06:06:58 AM: Reported.

Oh, and hello again! :cheers:
Title: Re: Fake Item on Ebay
Post by: Grathr on June 16, 2012, 09:34:36 AM: Reported.
Title: Re: Fake Item on Ebay
Post by: Neil on June 16, 2012, 10:21:05 AM: Thanks for the heads up, reported!
Title: Re: Fake Item on Ebay
Post by: GigaHz on June 16, 2012, 11:51:06 AM: Same guy.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Victorinox-Swiss-Army-Knife-Multi-Feature-All-You-Want-IN-ONE-BOX-Red-/280900179214?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item4166f4950e#ht_1894wt_1193 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Victorinox-Swiss-Army-Knife-Multi-Feature-All-You-Want-IN-ONE-BOX-Red-/280900179214?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item4166f4950e#ht_1894wt_1193)
Title: Re: Fake Item on Ebay
Post by: GigaHz on June 16, 2012, 11:53:31 AM: Some more.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/New-Blue-Multitool-Rescue-Tool-Victorinox-Swiss-Army-Swiss-Knife-/170856848651?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item27c7dc9d0b#ht_2164wt_961 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/New-Blue-Multitool-Rescue-Tool-Victorinox-Swiss-Army-Swiss-Knife-/170856848651?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item27c7dc9d0b#ht_2164wt_961)
Title: Re: Fake Item on Ebay
Post by: demonoflust on June 16, 2012, 12:08:01 PM: The other 2 does look real to me, am I blind? No I relook at the first pic it look real too, did they change the pic or I am really blind?
Title: Re: Fake Item on Ebay
Post by: GigaHz on June 16, 2012, 12:20:18 PM: The blue one is stamped stainless where Victorinox should be. The red one was discussed earlier. All are fakes.
Title: Re: Fake Item on Ebay
Post by: J Mackrel Jones on June 16, 2012, 04:25:25 PM: Quote from: Syph007 on June 16, 2012, 04:33:04 AM
Reported too. Cheap knockoff junk is such a waste of time and energy to even make.

Here is The Swiss Army Knife Owner's Manual's take on shoddy chinese fake SAKs, similar to your statement:
"All in all a waste of resources, of worker’s time, and of one’s money."
Title: Re: Fake Item on Ebay
Post by: victor7000 on June 16, 2012, 06:11:51 PM: Quote from: demonoflust on June 16, 2012, 12:08:01 PM
The other 2 does look real to me, am I blind? No I relook at the first pic it look real too, did they change the pic or I am really blind?

Yes, you are blind! :pok:
Title: Re: Fake Item on Ebay
Post by: demonoflust on June 16, 2012, 07:14:30 PM: Quote from: victor7000 on June 16, 2012, 06:11:51 PM
Quote from: demonoflust on June 16, 2012, 12:08:01 PM
The other 2 does look real to me, am I blind? No I relook at the first pic it look real too, did they change the pic or I am really blind?

Yes, you are blind! :pok:

:facepalm: haha ok :climber:
Title: Re: Fake Item on Ebay
Post by: J Mackrel Jones on June 16, 2012, 10:24:39 PM: On the fake WorkChamp also the ends of the wood and metal saws are clearly wrong. The set of photos below tho are from a real Vic I think - multilpying the seller's dulplicity.
But what are the obvious differences from the real on the other two? Aside from the cream-colored toothpick on one...
Title: Re: Fake Item on Ebay
Post by: GigaHz on June 17, 2012, 08:57:07 AM: Only $13 here.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/310408029321#ht_2690wt_1015 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/310408029321#ht_2690wt_1015)
Title: Re: Fake Item on Ebay
Post by: nsa-x-file on June 17, 2012, 11:21:29 AM: Reported. :salute:
Title: Re: Fake Item on Ebay
Post by: frugalscotty on June 18, 2012, 03:12:16 AM: http://www.ebay.com/itm/New-Victorinox-Swiss-Army-Swiss-Knife-Multitool-Rescue-Tool-Red-/180909302531?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2a1f08e303 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/New-Victorinox-Swiss-Army-Swiss-Knife-Multitool-Rescue-Tool-Red-/180909302531?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2a1f08e303)

reported
Title: Re: Fake Item on Ebay
Post by: Grathr on June 18, 2012, 04:55:59 AM: Reported
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Post by: bushidomosquito on June 18, 2012, 12:00:09 PM: Reported them all. Smurf these jokers. :twak:

The pliers are always the biggest tell for me. In true Chinese corner cutting fashion they just stamp and tumble. Come on guys, stamp them, tumble polish then grind the jaw faces so they have a sharper edge. I know you have the equipment over there. WTH? You can make real iPads but not fake Vics?

I've seen Chi multitools so awful it's unbelievable. One had a file that just had a vague rolled on impression of a file pattern on it. It was so obvious that it was never even intended to work as a disappointing low quality file, just to fool enough people into thinking it might work in photos or in the package to get them to buy it. It's the ultimate f-you to consumers.

It's kind of sad really. For ever connoisseur there's a thousand people that have bought a fake and wind up thinking the quality of Swiss tools is nothing special. The high seller ratings of these guys proves that the people never even realize they bought J-2 stainless garbage.
Title: Re: Fake Item on Ebay
Post by: derekmac on June 18, 2012, 03:18:04 PM: Quote from: bushidomosquito on June 18, 2012, 12:00:09 PM

It's kind of sad really. For ever connoisseur there's a thousand people that have bought a fake and wind up thinking the quality of Swiss tools is nothing special. The high seller ratings of these guys proves that the people never even realize they bought J-2 stainless garbage.

That's what ticks me off the most about these. People unwilling and unknowingly buy these rip-offs thinking they're getting a quality Swiss Army Knife, and end up with cheap junk that breaks/falls apart and they then think that SAKs are junk, and tell their friends don't bother with getting a Swiss Army Knife, they're just crap.

There are so many people out there with bad impressions of quality tools because of these ass clowns selling this junk. I really wish companies like Vic/Leatherman/ect. could team up with ebay to help police this crap and keep these sellers from being able to put this stuff on ebay.
Title: Re: Fake Item on Ebay
Post by: Syph007 on June 18, 2012, 03:19:59 PM: This is why I continue to preach not to buy anything from china made of steel. Their steel is garbage. They rock cheap electronics, but do you really want to rely on a knife or shotgun barrel made of Chinese steel?
Title: Re: Fake Item on Ebay
Post by: bushidomosquito on June 18, 2012, 05:04:49 PM: If there isn't already a thread where we can post fakes and everybody can gang up on them with reports I propose this be it. I'll report every one I see a link to. Maybe with a whole forum of watch dogs these fools will switch to selling fake purses or shoes or something else we don't care about.
Title: Re: Fake Item on Ebay
Post by: Waterlander on June 18, 2012, 05:56:04 PM: +1

Reported
Title: Re: Fake Item on Ebay
Post by: GigaHz on June 20, 2012, 01:47:21 PM: I asked one seller why he was selling fake knives from China. I get this reply:

"""It is made in China.
It's the best replacement and the same as our description.
It works well.

Thanks for your message.

At least he is honest about the origin, just doesn't care about stealing the name.
Title: Re: Fake Item on Ebay
Post by: T.J. Hooker on June 20, 2012, 02:22:01 PM: These sellers probably wouldn't know what Victorinox is.
They probably think the factory where they get there cheap knives from is called Victorinox :facepalm:
Title: Re: Fake Item on Ebay
Post by: Logrus9 on June 20, 2012, 03:43:20 PM: Can they be reported directly to Victorinox? It seems like they have a vested interest.
Title: Re: Fake Item on Ebay
Post by: T.J. Hooker on June 20, 2012, 03:45:49 PM: I emailed Victorinox with links of fake knives(with Vic logo on them) before and they tell me they forward the links to there legal team or something like that.
Title: Re: Fake Item on Ebay
Post by: Syph007 on June 20, 2012, 03:54:03 PM: They cant do anything to stop the fake trade in China, but they should be able to pressure ebay. I'm willing to bet there are zero real SAKS for sale from people with sellers accounts in China.
Title: Re: Fake Item on Ebay
Post by: GigaHz on June 20, 2012, 08:58:17 PM: A fake Spartan almost up to what a real one would cost.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/New-Blue-Multitool-Rescue-Tool-Victorinox-Swiss-Army-Swiss-Knife-/180909303617?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2a1f08e741 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/New-Blue-Multitool-Rescue-Tool-Victorinox-Swiss-Army-Swiss-Knife-/180909303617?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2a1f08e741)
Title: Re: Fake Item on Ebay
Post by: T.J. Hooker on July 29, 2012, 03:27:22 PM: Not sure if its a fake but I bet it is:
http://www.ebay.ca/itm/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=330769726996&clk_rvr_id=369306291219&item=330769726996&lgeo=1&vectorid=229529 (http://www.ebay.ca/itm/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=330769726996&clk_rvr_id=369306291219&item=330769726996&lgeo=1&vectorid=229529)

11 bids and at US 41. 6 mins to go.

The cork screw looks strange. I think that could be a real photo. Not sure.
But look at the small little photos. You can see small differences(very hard to see).

and I think that fact thats it China and has silly descriptions is enough to know its fake.

Sword
Pull the cork drill
Small screwdriver also to be a Cross screw
Drilling cone
Forceps
Unloading hook device
Nail file/ wheres this?
Remove the wire tool

Could be real :whistle:
Title: Re: Fake Item on Ebay
Post by: AHB on July 29, 2012, 04:00:19 PM: Quote from: T.J. Hooker on July 29, 2012, 03:27:22 PM
Could be real :whistle:

Gotta love this.. ::) :D

"Please DO NOT leave us Nagetive feedback or
Natural feedback before you haven't contact us.
If you are not going to pay for the item please don't
bid on it as there will be a transaction fees generate!"
Title: Re: Fake Item on Ebay
Post by: Reinier on August 09, 2012, 04:53:06 PM: Bump.

This one keeps coming back: www.ebay.com/itm/170893011401 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/170893011401)

Seller says it's not a Victorinox (duh!). But I'm guessing it's still a counterfeit item that should be reported.
Title: Re: Fake Item on Ebay
Post by: Syph007 on August 09, 2012, 04:58:19 PM: You'd think that it must be tough to sell Vic knives if your location is in china. Anyone that was fooled once, sure wouldnt buy again. Also arent most people aware of the china fake trade? It IS really annoying though.
Title: Re: Fake Item on Ebay
Post by: magentus on August 09, 2012, 04:59:48 PM: Quote from: Reinier on August 09, 2012, 04:53:06 PM
Bump.

This one keeps coming back: www.ebay.com/itm/170893011401 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/170893011401)

Seller says it's not a Victorinox (duh!). But I'm guessing it's still a counterfeit item that should be reported.

I like the 'MUTLIFUNCTION'

(http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c186/jennifertate/muttley.jpg)
Title: Re: Fake Item on Ebay
Post by: Marius on August 09, 2012, 05:20:24 PM: Although the seller mentions this is not Victorinox, the knife and its box display the counterfeited Victorinox logo AND the opened knife image is a stolen Victorinox Craftsman stock product image. And we do not know what is on the blade tang... :twak:
Title: Re: Fake Item on Ebay
Post by: T.J. Hooker on August 10, 2012, 06:03:43 AM: http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Useful-Cool-30-Function-Swiss-Camping-Style-Pocket-Army-Knife-/280938735114?pt=AU_KnivesSwords&hash=item416940e60a (http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Useful-Cool-30-Function-Swiss-Camping-Style-Pocket-Army-Knife-/280938735114?pt=AU_KnivesSwords&hash=item416940e60a)

This ones does not state is a Victorinox, but it has the logo in the photo.
I doubt it is real but you never know.

Victorinox from Deal Extreme are real and they are a Chinese store.
Title: Re: Fake Item on Ebay
Post by: T.J. Hooker on August 29, 2012, 01:03:38 PM: Two more fakes:
http://www.ebay.de/itm/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=251138044211&clk_rvr_id=381100812228&item=251138044211&lgeo=1&vectorid=229487 (http://www.ebay.de/itm/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=251138044211&clk_rvr_id=381100812228&item=251138044211&lgeo=1&vectorid=229487)

http://www.ebay.de/itm/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=251138040715&clk_rvr_id=381094553599&item=251138040715&lgeo=1&vectorid=229487 (http://www.ebay.de/itm/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=251138040715&clk_rvr_id=381094553599&item=251138040715&lgeo=1&vectorid=229487)
Title: Re: Fake Item on Ebay
Post by: Reinier on August 29, 2012, 01:58:34 PM: Looks like this one: http://www.ebay.com/itm/170893011401 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/170893011401) (different seller)
Title: Re: Fake Item on Ebay
Post by: marduk on August 29, 2012, 05:53:12 PM: But he does admit it's not a real Vic. Besides the knife, you also get a real "cool" box" & an 11 in 1 survival card!!