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Title: What's so special about 111mm SAK's?
Post by: TheDude on July 31, 2015, 05:13:48 AM
My 111mm family is growing. :facepalm:
Meet the new kids. And see the new family pics.
Title: Re: What's so special about 111mm SAK's?
Post by: TheDude on July 31, 2015, 05:18:10 AM
Different strokes for different folks.
Title: Re: What's so special about 111mm SAK's?
Post by: SAK Guy on July 31, 2015, 06:17:53 AM
I collect and use them occasionally. Keep a Rucksack or Forester in my EDC bag. Very capable tools. I consider them pack/bag knives but will on occasion drop one into my front overall pocket when I head to town.

Rucksack
(http://i833.photobucket.com/albums/zz256/SAKGuy/VicRucksack_zpsf5b12479.jpg)

Nomad
(http://i833.photobucket.com/albums/zz256/SAKGuy/IamNOMAD_zps79957b65.jpg)

Forester
(http://i833.photobucket.com/albums/zz256/SAKGuy/ForesterfromRW_zpsf29a4e83.jpg)

Early Hunter
(http://i833.photobucket.com/albums/zz256/SAKGuy/EarlySAKHunter_zps4fb735a0.jpg)

Hercules (The top of the food chain 111mm IMO. Mine stay stored in bad weather/survival kits etc)
(http://i833.photobucket.com/albums/zz256/SAKGuy/HercASH_zps85a8f183.jpg)
(http://i833.photobucket.com/albums/zz256/SAKGuy/hercandstogie_zps11e38d87.jpg)

One Hand Trekker (Very capable knives. Mine stay in my Emergency/Wildfire bags)
(http://i833.photobucket.com/albums/zz256/SAKGuy/CammieOHT_zps2ee185e0.jpg)
(http://i833.photobucket.com/albums/zz256/SAKGuy/CamoOHTASH_zps8cdbec44.jpg)

For scale next to a 91mm Climber.
(http://i833.photobucket.com/albums/zz256/SAKGuy/Camosungrown_zps66198f19.jpg)

Also various thin ones like Cowboys (Philips) and Alpineers (Corkscrew)...nice to slip in a pocket.(Group pic)
(http://i833.photobucket.com/albums/zz256/SAKGuy/3_zpse6b6bf48.jpg)


The Liner Lock models have heavier (and locking) screwdrivers....
(http://i833.photobucket.com/albums/zz256/SAKGuy/Screwdrivercomparison_zps3aa73122.jpg)

All 111mm's have great saws
(http://i833.photobucket.com/albums/zz256/SAKGuy/Rucksaw2_zps18e1f0fa.jpg)


Have added multiples of the above models since these pix....need to do some new ones.
Title: Re: What's so special about 111mm SAK's?
Post by: Smaug on July 31, 2015, 06:43:59 AM
Nice 111s, guys.

What's special about them?

1) They can be pressed into service as a self-defense weapon, but somehow, they still don't seem as threatening as even a smaller Spyderco.

2) Victorinox's side lock is a masterpiece of mechanical engineering

3) Serrations at the tip > serrations at the base of the blade

4) Vic's stainless steel + long enough blade for food prep = easy to use and clean

5) Can be had with dual inline Phillips'!

6) Can be had with a locking screwdriver. (that's pretty unique for an MT that isn't plier-based)

7) Nice long saw

8) Ergonomic shape fills the palm, but isn't TOO big.

*********

My favorites are the One-hand Trekker NS, Skipper, and Workchamp.

(http://i134.photobucket.com/albums/q112/jzorns/Knives/image_zpsxz9q7cly.jpg) (http://s134.photobucket.com/user/jzorns/media/Knives/image_zpsxz9q7cly.jpg.html)

(http://i134.photobucket.com/albums/q112/jzorns/Knives/image_zpscqmjtnat.jpg) (http://s134.photobucket.com/user/jzorns/media/Knives/image_zpscqmjtnat.jpg.html)

(http://i134.photobucket.com/albums/q112/jzorns/Knives/1133052b.jpg) (http://s134.photobucket.com/user/jzorns/media/Knives/1133052b.jpg.html)
Title: Re: What's so special about 111mm SAK's?
Post by: Toolslinger on July 31, 2015, 12:36:42 PM
111mm's have a great hand feel when in use. Love the extra leverage on the can opener when opening tougher cans. The blade length is excellent as well and a great utility size for a wide variety of tasks.

My favourites are:
- Workchamp
- Locksmith
- One Hand Fireman
Title: Re: What's so special about 111mm SAK's?
Post by: TheDude on July 31, 2015, 01:17:18 PM
I think my favourite is the Rescue tool which gets the most use. The Soldier was my first and is a great back country nice when on foot. The rest will see limited use from time to time. I just bought the Workchamp. It replaces the 91mm Champ that got stolen out of my car many moons ago. Sadly its just a little to big to be comfortable in my hand.
Title: Re: What's so special about 111mm SAK's?
Post by: WoodsDuck on July 31, 2015, 03:43:15 PM
Seems like all the points have been covered, so I don't have much to add, except this pic of my 111s. (And a few friends.)

 :nothingtoadd:
Title: Re: What's so special about 111mm SAK's?
Post by: ToolJoe on July 31, 2015, 04:30:03 PM
The inline phillips are great and also the blade can't be beat.
Title: Re: What's so special about 111mm SAK's?
Post by: Grass on August 01, 2015, 09:21:08 AM
Staring at my beloved One Handed Trekker Non Serrated...

1.   It is large enough to have a substantial length blade and saw on it.
2.   It is small enough to sit mostly unnoticed in a pocket.
3.   It is the perfect size for a strong grip in my hand.
4.   The one handed opening of the blade can be done with the left or right hand.
5.   Blade shape works well for my uses.
6.   Rounded blade tip makes it look more like a tool than a weapon.
7.   Rounded blade tip works as a nail cleaner.
8.   Saw handles anything that I can throw at it.
9.   Locking screwdriver functionality.
10.   Locking screwdriver very strong and effective as a prybar.
11.   Extremely quick and efficient as a bottle opener.
12.   Can opener screwdriver reach is better than expected.
13.   Can opener effective at its base job of opening cans.
14.   The Philips head screwdriver works with an impressive range of screws.
15.   Reamer makes great circular holes in anything.
16.   Tweezers useful at everything from splinters to hairs.
17.   Toothpick solves all annoying day to day teeth issues.
18.   Easy to clean and maintain.
19.   It is possible to open every tool with one hand if needed.
20.   Takes a thrashing, regularly, without complaint.

... and a nice pic of the Damascus!
Title: Re: What's so special about 111mm SAK's?
Post by: Sea Monster on August 01, 2015, 10:13:42 AM
Nothing much.

I've got three (I had four. Pesky Thieves took my favourite. Still angry)

OHT, Helmsman, and..a red one? An Outrider I think.

None ever get carry time, they do not sit nicely in my pocket, and I do not find them comfortable in the hand.

the OHT sits in a box somewhere (like a disappointing child), the Helmsman in a drawer (too nice to use), the Outrider at least has potential for use, as it is in my emergency kit (a position it earned through being A. Red, and B. Having scissors)

I want to like them, I so really do (and I did kind of like my German Army knife, before someone needed it more than I did, apparently), but they just do not "work" for me.

Title: Re: What's so special about 111mm SAK's?
Post by: Smaug on August 01, 2015, 11:06:39 AM
Nothing much.

None ever get carry time, they do not sit nicely in my pocket,
I agree there. To carry a < 4 layer one comfortably in the pocket though, you only need a belt hanger of some sort. I have a simple one with a clip on one end to go through the keyring of the SAK and a loop on the other end, to go around my belt. This lets it hang vertically in the pocket, with the weight on the belt instead of the pocket. MUCH more comfortable than just tossing it in there. Give it a try with your Trekker. I bet you'll like it a lot more.


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and I do not find them comfortable in the hand.
Now THIS one, I haven't heard before regarding 111mm SAKs, except when referring to using the saw on a OH Trekker, some people feel like the thumbhold lump on the blade wrecks the grip. I just put my finger through that hole while I'm sawing, and it actually gives extra purchase.


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I want to like them, I so really do
Try the pocket hanger trick.


A couple more ideas: The Helmsman makes a great one to keep in your bag. It is one of those big MTs that is well-complimented by a smaller one with a scissors. Big, serrated blade, inline #2 Phillips and pliers are not a common combination in a SAK. I broke mine out at dinner out the other night when all we had were butter knives and I felt the need for something properly sharp without fear of dulling it against the plate...

How about getting a belt pouch and carrying them that way? I've found the simple and inexpensive nylon/velcro Victorinox pouches to be VERY comfortable on the hip...

****

I don't know about the rest of you guys, but when that big blade (esp. the side-locking type) gives that solid "CLICK" as it locks open, it never fails to give me an ear-to-ear smile.  :D

Oh, did I mention the pocket hanger trick? It makes all the difference, Bro.  :tu:
Title: Re: What's so special about 111mm SAK's?
Post by: Smaug on August 01, 2015, 11:09:33 AM
Yikes, look at the time!

(http://i134.photobucket.com/albums/q112/jzorns/Trash%20Talking/internet_wrong2.jpg) (http://s134.photobucket.com/user/jzorns/media/Trash%20Talking/internet_wrong2.jpg.html)

 :rant:
Title: Re: What's so special about 111mm SAK's?
Post by: kkokkolis on August 01, 2015, 12:12:18 PM
111 never appealed to me for some reason. I now have a Wenger Hunter which I love, being big enough to be distinguished from 91mm SAKs. I wonder now that 130mm is a Victorinox line if it sells more or less compared to the 111.
Title: Re: What's so special about 111mm SAK's?
Post by: Sea Monster on August 01, 2015, 12:43:16 PM
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Oh, did I mention the pocket hanger trick?


Harrumm..

I believe I do have a spare belt hanger kicking around, and possibly a nice releasy shackle type situation I could employ.

(I used to carry my  :climber: in a pouch, before I had a  :multi:, now it might be a little silly. )


Title: Re: What's so special about 111mm SAK's?
Post by: charlie fox on August 01, 2015, 12:56:32 PM
I like them; a little extra blade length is never bad. I only own two, but that's because they do everything I need them to - the Adventurer and the OHT. My Adventurer is an original side lock that I bought back in the early 2000's. My OHT was a gift from work and is my primary tool in my BOB.
Title: Re: What's so special about 111mm SAK's?
Post by: Zephon on October 30, 2015, 01:44:53 AM
What I find special with the 111mm series are:

1. Large(er) blade, saw, file.
2. Larger grip area.
3. That re-assuring heft in your pocket.
4. The sound of the side lock (or liner lock) engaging with a BANG! and not just a meek click.
5. Locally, you can get a Workchamp for at least 30% lesser than a Swisstool.  (If you're just after the tools in a Swisstool and not the pliers, this is a good deal)
Title: Re: What's so special about 111mm SAK's?
Post by: AimlessWanderer on October 30, 2015, 07:20:10 AM
111 never appealed to me for some reason. I now have a Wenger Hunter which I love, being big enough to be distinguished from 91mm SAKs. I wonder now that 130mm is a Victorinox line if it sells more or less compared to the 111.

I'm quite happy to skip the 111's too. I'm currently getting rid of all my SAKs over 91mm, but if I was going to keep one, it would be a 130 not a 111
Title: Re: What's so special about 111mm SAK's?
Post by: Kampfer on October 30, 2015, 08:21:01 AM
The two 111mm I had have bad blade lock up.

Round tip on OHO blade, why?

I love the 130mm, way better IMO.
Title: Re: What's so special about 111mm SAK's?
Post by: gene stoner on October 30, 2015, 02:54:34 PM
So far the only 111 I have is my Soldier. But now I want a Hunter, Locksmith and maby a WorkChamp. It may be a mutation of the Alox pox it's gone 111 and I may have it! :facepalm:
Title: Re: What's so special about 111mm SAK's?
Post by: magentus on October 30, 2015, 03:09:36 PM
The couple I've had have both had slight blade play (hate that), and they seem too big for a pocket knife but too small for a big knife. Plus in this country the locking is illegal so I couldn't really EDC them. I got rid of both and haven't missed them at all.

I love 91 and 93mm lines though.

My models were the Rucksack and the RAF Hunter one.
Title: Re: What's so special about 111mm SAK's?
Post by: Zephon on October 30, 2015, 03:41:41 PM
So far the only 111 I have is my Soldier. But now I want a Hunter, Locksmith and maby a WorkChamp. It may be a mutation of the Alox pox it's gone 111 and I may have it! :facepalm:

I'd like to try out a Locksmith as well simply coz its toolset takes advantage of the 111mm size- bigger knife, longer file, longer saw. All in a liner lock package. That off course include the locking cap lifter end.
Title: Re: What's so special about 111mm SAK's?
Post by: pfrsantos on October 30, 2015, 04:28:40 PM
The two 111mm I had have bad blade lock up.

Round tip on OHO blade, why?

I love the 130mm, way better IMO.

Some of mine (side-lock, not liner-lock) have this issue, too. Seems it's a feature, not a defect...

 :-\
Title: Re: What's so special about 111mm SAK's?
Post by: SAK Guy on October 30, 2015, 04:55:21 PM
The two 111mm I had have bad blade lock up.

Round tip on OHO blade, why?

I love the 130mm, way better IMO.

Some of mine (side-lock, not liner-lock) have this issue, too. Seems it's a feature, not a defect...

 :-\

I remember reading that little bit of play was in the design. I have never had one fail.
Title: Re: What's so special about 111mm SAK's?
Post by: firiki on October 30, 2015, 10:19:39 PM
Both of mine have a bit of vertical play too. It doesn't bother me but I'm not thrilled with it either.

I like the slide-lock models, I keep thinking that dirt or a fall could compromise its function though. :-\

My Forester and Soldier get the nod to do work sometimes and I love them. It took me a little time to like them but we got there. Especially the Soldier has been just the ticket on two occasions.
Title: Re: What's so special about 111mm SAK's?
Post by: gene stoner on October 31, 2015, 12:42:28 AM


I like the slide-lock models, I keep thinking that dirt or a fall could compromise its function though. :-
[/quote]

My understanding of the side lock is if the lock breaks  the knife still functions as a slip joint. You only lose the locking ability so it works like any other pocket knife.
Title: Re: What's so special about 111mm SAK's?
Post by: Toolslinger on October 31, 2015, 12:59:01 AM


I like the slide-lock models, I keep thinking that dirt or a fall could compromise its function though. :-

My understanding of the side lock is if the lock breaks  the knife still functions as a slip joint. You only lose the locking ability so it works like any other pocket knife.
[/quote]

That is correct. It still functions as a slipjoint. The spring isn't super stiff, but it will not fold on it's own.
Title: Re: What's so special about 111mm SAK's?
Post by: ToolJoe on October 31, 2015, 03:07:57 AM
According to sak wiki, there is a oh locksmith model. How rare are these?
Title: Re: What's so special about 111mm SAK's?
Post by: Luna Knife on October 31, 2015, 06:26:35 PM
I have a linerlock fireman on the way. I have been wanting one for a while
Title: Re: What's so special about 111mm SAK's?
Post by: Kampfer on October 31, 2015, 06:54:40 PM
The two 111mm I had have bad blade lock up.

Round tip on OHO blade, why?

I love the 130mm, way better IMO.

Some of mine (side-lock, not liner-lock) have this issue, too. Seems it's a feature, not a defect...

 :-\

I remember reading that little bit of play was in the design. I have never had one fail.
I do understand, but the two I had, if I swing it hard I could feel the blade moves up n down while I swing it... very annoying.
Title: Re: What's so special about 111mm SAK's?
Post by: Kampfer on October 31, 2015, 06:55:28 PM
 8)
(http://forum.multitool.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=55952.0;attach=247887;image)
Title: Re: What's so special about 111mm SAK's?
Post by: SAK Guy on October 31, 2015, 07:25:18 PM
The two 111mm I had have bad blade lock up.

Round tip on OHO blade, why?

I love the 130mm, way better IMO.

Some of mine (side-lock, not liner-lock) have this issue, too. Seems it's a feature, not a defect...

 :-\

I remember reading that little bit of play was in the design. I have never had one fail.
I do understand, but the two I had, if I swing it hard I could feel the blade moves up n down while I swing it... very annoying.

Yeah, that's too much. :tu:
Title: Re: What's so special about 111mm SAK's?
Post by: BASguy on November 01, 2015, 12:09:24 AM
(http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/10/31/580b82ac00eecbd6d3109073e4477f64.jpg)
Not a fan of the OHO blade.  It makes for an uncomfortable grip and the lock doesn't easily facilitate OHC.  It also would have been nice to have a locking saw.  In general, they are easily pocketable and the scales are great.  I keep this guy in the truck for general ranch use.  The blade itself is awesome.


Sent from 9 miles from the face of the sun
Title: Re: What's so special about 111mm SAK's?
Post by: Zephon on November 11, 2015, 05:40:24 AM
Here's something I just figured out:

As far as inline drivers are concerned, the small driver in a Hercules/Workchamp is just the same size as the one found in the Explorer (and Swisschamp).

It's the long, fine driver that's unique to the 111mm series that made me pick the Hercules versus say a Handyman/Ranger/Deluxe Tinker.....
Title: Re: What's so special about 111mm SAK's?
Post by: ToolJoe on November 11, 2015, 07:44:46 PM
I'm really close to going with a oh Trekker as my edc. Any reason not to?
Title: Re: What's so special about 111mm SAK's?
Post by: pfrsantos on November 11, 2015, 07:59:18 PM
There's something else about them:

They're palindromes!

 :cheers:
Title: Re: What's so special about 111mm SAK's?
Post by: SAK Guy on November 11, 2015, 08:46:10 PM
There's something else about them:

They're palindromes!

 :cheers:

Oh yeah....like the "have gun, will travel" guy.   :tu:


:D
Title: Re: What's so special about 111mm SAK's?
Post by: SAK Guy on November 17, 2015, 07:35:30 PM
Locksmith came in yesterday and a another Herc came today. Got some 111mm cases today as well.

Picked up the Herc after I checked the Vic site and it wasn't listed anymore.
Title: Re: What's so special about 111mm SAK's?
Post by: BASguy on November 19, 2015, 04:25:33 AM


Picked up the Herc after I checked the Vic site and it wasn't listed anymore.

It's there now


Sent from 9 miles from the face of the sun
Title: Re: What's so special about 111mm SAK's?
Post by: SAK Guy on November 19, 2015, 06:47:26 AM


Picked up the Herc after I checked the Vic site and it wasn't listed anymore.

It's there now


Sent from 9 miles from the face of the sun

Thank you! I like Hercs, one more is fine with me. :cheers:
Title: Re: What's so special about 111mm SAK's?
Post by: strmliner on November 20, 2015, 03:04:32 AM
There's something else about them:

They're palindromes!

 :cheers:

Oh yeah....like the "have gun, will travel" guy.   :tu:


:D

 :rofl:  I am rolling on the floor with that one!   :rofl:
Title: Re: What's so special about 111mm SAK's?
Post by: SAK Guy on November 20, 2015, 03:21:51 AM
There's something else about them:

They're palindromes!

 :cheers:

Oh yeah....like the "have gun, will travel" guy.   :tu:


:D

 :rofl:  I am rolling on the floor with that one!   :rofl:

 :hatsoff:
Title: Re: What's so special about 111mm SAK's?
Post by: ToolJoe on December 17, 2015, 04:53:32 PM
Herc's are good..  :climber:
Title: Re: What's so special about 111mm SAK's?
Post by: Grass on December 18, 2015, 07:16:32 AM
I'm really close to going with a oh Trekker as my edc. Any reason not to?

So did you? Serrared or non-serrated? Colour? How are you finding it?
Title: Re: What's so special about 111mm SAK's?
Post by: ToolJoe on December 18, 2015, 09:11:32 PM
Pretty close to it. Probably going to go with the green soldier model serrated.
Title: Re: What's so special about 111mm SAK's?
Post by: eahm on December 18, 2015, 11:43:42 PM
... and a nice pic of the Damascus!
Wow. Beautiful.

8)
(http://forum.multitool.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=55952.0;attach=247887;image)
Mh... that's 130mm.
Title: Re: What's so special about 111mm SAK's?
Post by: ToolJoe on December 19, 2015, 03:02:24 AM
I bought a serrated vic soldier from feline vet. Mrs tj approved of it so life is good!
Title: Re: What's so special about 111mm SAK's?
Post by: HarleyXJGuy on December 19, 2015, 09:07:12 AM
I'm really close to going with a oh Trekker as my edc. Any reason not to?

Nope.
Title: Re: What's so special about 111mm SAK's?
Post by: SAK Guy on December 19, 2015, 09:40:34 AM
I'm really close to going with a oh Trekker as my edc. Any reason not to?

Nope.

+1
Title: Re: What's so special about 111mm SAK's?
Post by: Humppa on December 20, 2015, 07:18:06 PM
111 mm SAKs. Not really my tea. They somehow seemed to miss the target. At least for me. They are just too big for pocket carry. I like the idea of SAK for carrying a small, pocketable toolset that can easily been carried on a daily basis. I have several 111mm SAKs and I use them, but not as EDC. I keep them in my toolbox in the drawers or the car, but not on my person.

Maybe I´m just one of those weird Recruit-Lovers ....  :facepalm:
Title: Re: What's so special about 111mm SAK's?
Post by: ToolJoe on December 22, 2015, 04:01:13 AM
I got my oh soldier today and all I have to say is wow this is a nice knife/mt!
Title: Re: What's so special about 111mm SAK's?
Post by: ducttapetech on December 22, 2015, 11:58:57 AM
Love the Solder/OHT. The only thing I didn't like was the chisel grind. Easy fix.
Title: Re: What's so special about 111mm SAK's?
Post by: Thales of Miletus on December 23, 2015, 03:37:55 AM
I've recently picked up an Outrider and Rucksack but I don't think I'm going to hold onto them.  I could see their appeal for being included in your pack for serious work, but as pocket knives they don't really fit my needs.  I'm still waiting to be converted...

Title: Re: What's so special about 111mm SAK's?
Post by: Oclip on December 23, 2015, 08:30:28 AM
Well,....I agree with everything that you all like them for. I have German and Italian Genes. They fit my German, 6' frame and hand, and the've got....Style. IMHO.

The serrated blade is long enough to cut food, and foam. They have about the right tools on them for me. Well, almost! I think they'd make a nice frame base for my "Dream Machine", and they fit my "pinch" or my pinch is easy to construct for my OHT 3 layer. The one hand opening ain't bad either. They remind me of my Spyderco's, which have all gotten away from me. There are a few more tools I'd like on one, so Thale O'Mille, what do you want for your Outrider? email me @ Oclip@live.com. I would also like to find a Malay ATM SAk (111mm), if anyone knows of one. And one other thing I like;  I think I can refit them with a Snap On #2 Phillips tip, and cut the scale in a straignt line, to the Tweezer hole, and put a longer, stronger tip in one. Yes, I'll change the pin, and add another side spring layer, so I can lock open, the T-driver Snap On Phillips tip (and the saw).  Yet to be seen. Snap on Phillips and all their screwdrivers in general, are the best I've ever used as a professional mechanic, when I was one.       
                                 But mostly,  They got.....Style.....:salute:    Thanx, Oclip
Title: Re: What's so special about 111mm SAK's?
Post by: duky on February 22, 2016, 10:30:09 AM


. I have several 111mm SAKs and I use them, but not as EDC.:
I have sentinel oh with clip as my EDC knife. I prefer bigger blade.

With combination with victorinox signature light on my keys, I have everything what I need :-)

Title: Re: What's so special about 111mm SAK's?
Post by: Reinier on February 22, 2016, 12:05:07 PM
They're palindromes!

No, I am!
Title: Re: What's so special about 111mm SAK's?
Post by: Guardian on February 22, 2016, 08:01:56 PM
They're palindromes!

No, I am!

 :facepalm:
Title: Re: What's so special about 111mm SAK's?
Post by: jalind on February 24, 2016, 12:09:17 AM

The 85mm Delemont and 91mm standard Vics are superb knives, and their size can be a valued characteristic, especially the compactness of the Delemont Evolution, but they have limitations driven by their size. The 111mm offers ability to take on tasks not possible with the smaller blades and tools. Main blade locking is the common theme, which is only found on some of the Delemont Evolution (notably missing from the Evolution 23; wishing there were a S23 variant). They also liner lock the bottle opener with its large flat-tip screwdriver, a feature only found on the Delemont with its spring lock. Some offer one-hand deployment which can be very useful when you don't want to let go of something to deploy the cutting blade. The grips are ergonomic and textured, with dual density now offered on many. The Swiss, German and Dutch armies use their own variants of them because of their size and robustness. There's a lot to like about the 111mm . . .

German Army Knife (nearly identical to the Soldier)
(http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l290/j_a_lind/Other/Knives/SAK/Miscellaneous/German%20Army%20Knife%20Trekker.jpg)

Dual Pro X (civilian version of Dutch Army Knife 2010)
(http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l290/j_a_lind/Other/Knives/SAK/Miscellaneous/Dual%20Pro%20X.jpg)

Rescue Tool
(http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l290/j_a_lind/Other/Knives/SAK/Miscellaneous/Rescue%20Tool.jpg)

Work Champ
(http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l290/j_a_lind/Other/Knives/SAK/Miscellaneous/WorkChamp.jpg)

When the going gets tough, the tough get going, and when the going gets tougher, the 111mm keep going!

John
Title: Re: What's so special about 111mm SAK's?
Post by: ToolJoe on February 24, 2016, 05:06:05 PM
I have a Soldier and a Hercules and both are solid members of the club. The only thing I am missing are pliers. Would a Leatherman Kick be a solid complement to the Soldier or Hercules (depending on which I carry)?
Title: Re: What's so special about 111mm SAK's?
Post by: sLaughterMed on February 24, 2016, 05:16:17 PM
It could,  although if you are just looking for pliers, id go with a Juice S2. Delivers real pliera in a very compact package.The Pocket PowerPlier also has pretty awesome pliers, in a thinner package than a Kick.
Title: Re: What's so special about 111mm SAK's?
Post by: Zephon on March 01, 2016, 01:05:18 AM
I guess the special thing about 111mm can be summarized in the Locksmith:


in a package that's still feasible enough to carry in the front pocket (versus 130mm.  I mean ever tried to pocket one of those?)
Title: Re: What's so special about 111mm SAK's?
Post by: gene stoner on March 19, 2016, 04:23:00 PM
Scored a camo Hunter.
Title: Re: What's so special about 111mm SAK's?
Post by: LoopCutter on March 19, 2016, 05:49:54 PM
I have had mine only a week, carried in tool bag, but pulled out for saw time, did number on tuning up conduit run, and it fits my large paws very well. (http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160319/69b05919ed502765402b42edcadd90a8.jpg)the bottom one


*via Tapatalk
Title: Re: What's so special about 111mm SAK's?
Post by: firiki on March 22, 2016, 02:01:50 PM
Something really special about the 111mm SAKs is that on the three-layer linerlock models the knife blade is in the middle of the handle. Only these and the Solos have that!
Title: Re: What's so special about 111mm SAK's?
Post by: Weasel on March 23, 2016, 12:46:19 PM

Scored a camo Hunter.
very nice i like that a lot
Title: Re: What's so special about 111mm SAK's?
Post by: pfrsantos on March 23, 2016, 12:47:57 PM
Scored a camo Hunter.

Really?! Where?! Let's see it!

 :pok: :pok:
Title: Re: What's so special about 111mm SAK's?
Post by: Paul DeBuhr on March 23, 2016, 05:03:06 PM
Is the glass breaker from the rescue tool interchangeable with any of the other models?
Title: Re: What's so special about 111mm SAK's?
Post by: LeaF on March 25, 2016, 01:21:19 PM
Is the glass breaker from the rescue tool interchangeable with any of the other models?
No
Title: Re: What's so special about 111mm SAK's?
Post by: anditsgone on March 27, 2016, 01:01:09 PM
I have also been looking for a 111mm sak but couldn't find one with the toolset that i wanted.

The tools it should at least have are:
OHO blade like rangergrip and OHO trekker with lock and no serrations.
scissors
Philhps screwdriver
flathead screwdriver


I could not find one with those tools, do you guys know if there is a 111mm with those tools?
Title: Re: What's so special about 111mm SAK's?
Post by: Luna Knife on March 27, 2016, 02:35:21 PM
I have also been looking for a 111mm sak but couldn't find one with the toolset that i wanted.

The tools it should at least have are:
OHO blade like rangergrip and OHO trekker with lock and no serrations.
scissors
Philhps screwdriver
flathead screwdriver


I could not find one with those tools, do you guys know if there is a 111mm with those tools?

They should make one like that.  It would be a good seller
Title: Re: What's so special about 111mm SAK's?
Post by: Grass on March 28, 2016, 12:40:42 AM
I have also been looking for a 111mm sak but couldn't find one with the toolset that i wanted.

The tools it should at least have are:
OHO blade like rangergrip and OHO trekker with lock and no serrations.
scissors
Philhps screwdriver
flathead screwdriver

I could not find one with those tools, do you guys know if there is a 111mm with those tools?

Was thinking last night that this is exactly what I want! It must happen! :)

Essentially a one handed trekker non-serrated that removes the saw and replaces it with scissors and an inline Philips! (Whether it then has two different Philips OR  puts the corkscrew on the back, I don't mind!).

Ie a 3 layer with:
One handed non serrated liner lock blade
Scissors
Inline Philips
Can opener-screwdriver
Bottle opener-screwdriver with liner lock
Awl on back
Philips OR corkscrew on back
Toothpick and tweezers

Has anyone made one? :) I've seen a mod that seems to add scissors to the trekker; but then it's getting big... :)
Title: Re: What's so special about 111mm SAK's?
Post by: anditsgone on March 28, 2016, 01:50:57 PM
Yeah, i really like the concept behind the 111mm but the tool set is just not that good. They have to look at their SAK's and see which models sell really wel like climber and spartan and just put those best selling tool load outs in their 111mm.

I agree that the tool load out hinders the 111mm in becomming a big succes.
Title: Re: What's so special about 111mm SAK's?
Post by: gene stoner on March 29, 2016, 04:00:44 PM
Witch saw would you use?
Title: Re: What's so special about 111mm SAK's?
Post by: ToolJoe on March 29, 2016, 05:42:34 PM
The Soldier saw gets my vote..
Title: Re: What's so special about 111mm SAK's?
Post by: sLaughterMed on March 29, 2016, 07:03:22 PM
I never noticed that the OH Soldier and Trekker had different saw blades. Why is that?
Title: Re: What's so special about 111mm SAK's?
Post by: gene stoner on March 29, 2016, 07:42:12 PM
 :-\
I never noticed that the OH Soldier and Trekker had different saw blades. Why is that?

The camo one is a Hunter not a Trekker. The slide lock 111mm saw is different from the line lock.
Title: Re: What's so special about 111mm SAK's?
Post by: sLaughterMed on March 29, 2016, 09:27:49 PM
:-\
I never noticed that the OH Soldier and Trekker had different saw blades. Why is that?

The camo one is a Hunter not a Trekker. The slide lock 111mm saw is different from the line lock.
my mistake. Neat information to know, i guess you learn a little more every day
Title: Re: What's so special about 111mm SAK's?
Post by: emu on April 09, 2016, 06:06:59 PM
I have a couple, and I love them. But to me, they're strictly special-use/outdoor knives, too big (and to some, scary) for indoor/urban EDC. I keep one with a belt-cutter blade in my car, and if I'm on a sailboat, same kind in my pocket with a 18-inch lanyard connected to my belt (can cut it loose if required). I carry a Trekker-type hiking or camping ... best pocket wood saw.
Title: Re: What's so special about 111mm SAK's?
Post by: Gryffin on April 09, 2016, 11:40:24 PM
I like the Eleventy-Ones as a more knife-focused alternative to a multitool on my belt, especially the one-hand locking-blade models. You do give up some MT functionality though.

(Although, I'm still considering having one of our local SAK surgeons build me my dream Eleventy-One, the One-Hand Workchamp! Now, THAT would be worth carrying instead of a multitool.)
Title: Re: What's so special about 111mm SAK's?
Post by: SAK Guy on June 10, 2016, 04:47:51 PM
Finally Took the plunge and got a Work Champ....it was the custom OD scales that pushed me over! :facepalm:

CVW OD Work Champ
(http://i833.photobucket.com/albums/zz256/SAKGuy/OD%20WorkChamp%20obv_zpsxrwms7lb.jpg)
Title: Re: What's so special about 111mm SAK's?
Post by: toolguy on June 10, 2016, 08:28:57 PM
:-\
I never noticed that the OH Soldier and Trekker had different saw blades. Why is that?

The camo one is a Hunter not a Trekker. The slide lock 111mm saw is different from the line lock.

Is that a scale swap ?

I've never seen the Hunter offered in camouflage.

Thanks.
Title: Re: What's so special about 111mm SAK's?
Post by: gene stoner on June 11, 2016, 02:44:38 PM
:-\
I never noticed that the OH Soldier and Trekker had different saw blades. Why is that?

The camo one is a Hunter not a Trekker. The slide lock 111mm saw is different from the line lock.

Is that a scale swap ?

I've never seen the Hunter offered in camouflage.

Thanks.

They where made in 2008 and they came with Phillips driver instead of CS.
Title: Re: What's so special about 111mm SAK's?
Post by: SAK Guy on June 11, 2016, 03:12:30 PM
:-\
I never noticed that the OH Soldier and Trekker had different saw blades. Why is that?

The camo one is a Hunter not a Trekker. The slide lock 111mm saw is different from the line lock.

Is that a scale swap ?

I've never seen the Hunter offered in camouflage.

Thanks.

They where made in 2008 and they came with Phillips driver instead of CS.

And I put it off till I missed out on them...... :facepalm:
Title: Re: What's so special about 111mm SAK's?
Post by: gene stoner on June 11, 2016, 03:21:28 PM
:-\
I never noticed that the OH Soldier and Trekker had different saw blades. Why is that?

The camo one is a Hunter not a Trekker. The slide lock 111mm saw is different from the line lock.

Is that a scale swap ?

I've never seen the Hunter offered in camouflage.

Thanks.

They where made in 2008 and they came with Phillips driver instead of CS.

And I put it off till I missed out on them...... :facepalm:

If I find an other one I'll let you know SG.
Title: Re: What's so special about 111mm SAK's?
Post by: SAK Guy on June 11, 2016, 05:46:06 PM
:-\
I never noticed that the OH Soldier and Trekker had different saw blades. Why is that?

The camo one is a Hunter not a Trekker. The slide lock 111mm saw is different from the line lock.

Is that a scale swap ?

I've never seen the Hunter offered in camouflage.

Thanks.

They where made in 2008 and they came with Phillips driver instead of CS.

And I put it off till I missed out on them...... :facepalm:

If I find an other one I'll let you know SG.

Thanks Gene!!!!  :salute:
Title: Re: What's so special about 111mm SAK's?
Post by: Gath on June 22, 2016, 08:55:53 PM
A RescueTool joined my humble 111mm SAK collection, though it was destined and delivered to my brother who is a nurse and red cross member and drives a lot. I hope he likes it but never needs the unique functions.
Title: Re: What's so special about 111mm SAK's?
Post by: WoodsDuck on June 22, 2016, 10:53:05 PM
A RescueTool joined my humble 111mm SAK collection, though it was destined and delivered to my brother who is a nurse and red cross member and drives a lot. I hope he likes it but never needs the unique functions.

Now that is a nice gift  :tu:
Title: Re: What's so special about 111mm SAK's?
Post by: SAK Guy on June 22, 2016, 11:58:26 PM
I gifted my Rescue tool to my cousin, an EMT.  Now I want another...... :facepalm:
Title: Re: What's so special about 111mm SAK's?
Post by: Gath on June 23, 2016, 12:16:25 AM
I gifted my Rescue tool to my cousin, an EMT.  Now I want another...... :facepalm:

The way I see it we gift our knives around to fool ourselves to thinking our urge is more sensible than pathological.
Title: Re: What's so special about 111mm SAK's?
Post by: gene stoner on June 24, 2016, 10:09:57 PM
Latest addition to my 111's. Can anybody tell me the dates for the DE-GM number stamp on the 111mm tang?
Title: Re: What's so special about 111mm SAK's?
Post by: SAK Guy on June 24, 2016, 11:08:55 PM
Latest addition to my 111's. Can anybody tell me the dates for the DE-GM number stamp on the 111mm tang?


1993-2003

http://forum.multitool.org/index.php/topic,50014.msg839265.html#msg839265
Title: Re: What's so special about 111mm SAK's?
Post by: gene stoner on June 24, 2016, 11:10:59 PM
Latest addition to my 111's. Can anybody tell me the dates for the DE-GM number stamp on the 111mm tang?


1993-2003

http://forum.multitool.org/index.php/topic,50014.msg839265.html#msg839265

Thanks SG
Title: Re: What's so special about 111mm SAK's?
Post by: SAK Guy on June 24, 2016, 11:21:49 PM
Vic Rucksack produced for a company in Switzerland and not marketed outside the country. 

(http://i833.photobucket.com/albums/zz256/SAKGuy/Swiss%20Market%20Ruck_zpsyps63qbx.jpg)


+B imported some into NA back in 2009
http://www.inmentis.com/SwissBianco/SwissBianco_NL_2009_5.htm

Title: Re: What's so special about 111mm SAK's?
Post by: SAK Guy on June 24, 2016, 11:23:56 PM
Latest addition to my 111's. Can anybody tell me the dates for the DE-GM number stamp on the 111mm tang?


1993-2003

http://forum.multitool.org/index.php/topic,50014.msg839265.html#msg839265

Thanks SG

You bet Gene!!!!  Remember having that same question when I got my first Forester.   :cheers: :cheers:
Title: Re: What's so special about 111mm SAK's?
Post by: gene stoner on June 24, 2016, 11:34:10 PM
Vic Rucksack produced for a company in Switzerland and not marketed outside the country. 

(http://i833.photobucket.com/albums/zz256/SAKGuy/Swiss%20Market%20Ruck_zpsyps63qbx.jpg)


+B imported some into NA back in 2009
http://www.inmentis.com/SwissBianco/SwissBianco_NL_2009_5.htm

One of those rucksacks is on my 111 want list along with a green work Champ.
Title: Re: What's so special about 111mm SAK's?
Post by: gene stoner on June 25, 2016, 04:36:34 PM
Bump, some 111 eye candy to keep things going. :cheers:
Title: Re: What's so special about 111mm SAK's?
Post by: WoodsDuck on June 25, 2016, 05:17:08 PM
Bump, some 111 eye candy to keep things going. :cheers:

There's something funny about that AT&T advertising knife. I guess those must have been gifts to investors or something, because I can't see those cheapskates giving name brand swag to their employees.
Title: Re: What's so special about 111mm SAK's?
Post by: gene stoner on June 25, 2016, 06:22:39 PM
Bump, some 111 eye candy to keep things going. :cheers:

There's something funny about that AT&T advertising knife. I guess those must have been gifts to investors or something, because I can't see those cheapskates giving name brand swag to their employees.

Who ever had it never used it so it's like new and advertising 111mm aren't very common so out of thousands of Trekkers this one is a little unique. For what I paid for it I'm not going to complain about AT&T having their logo on it but I'm not going to bitch if it rubs off either.
Title: Re: What's so special about 111mm SAK's?
Post by: SAK Guy on June 25, 2016, 06:39:41 PM
Bump, some 111 eye candy to keep things going. :cheers:

There's something funny about that AT&T advertising knife. I guess those must have been gifts to investors or something, because I can't see those cheapskates giving name brand swag to their employees.

Who ever had it never used it so it's like new and advertising 111mm aren't very common so out of thousands of Trekkers this one is a little unique. For what I paid for it I'm not going to complain about AT&T having their logo on it but I'm not going to bitch if it rubs off either.

Yours is the first ad 111mm I remember seeing Gene!!   :cheers:
Title: Re: What's so special about 111mm SAK's?
Post by: gene stoner on June 25, 2016, 06:53:06 PM
Bump, some 111 eye candy to keep things going. :cheers:

There's something funny about that AT&T advertising knife. I guess those must have been gifts to investors or something, because I can't see those cheapskates giving name brand swag to their employees.

Who ever had it never used it so it's like new and advertising 111mm aren't very common so out of thousands of Trekkers this one is a little unique. For what I paid for it I'm not going to complain about AT&T having their logo on it but I'm not going to bitch if it rubs off either.

Yours is the first ad 111mm I remember seeing Gene!!   :cheers:

Let's not forget the ULINE Camo OHT but those are perty common here in the US. I wouldn't mind finding out when and how many of these where made but for $25 deliverd it's a great user. :tu:
Title: Re: What's so special about 111mm SAK's?
Post by: SAK Guy on June 25, 2016, 07:06:35 PM
Bump, some 111 eye candy to keep things going. :cheers:

There's something funny about that AT&T advertising knife. I guess those must have been gifts to investors or something, because I can't see those cheapskates giving name brand swag to their employees.

Who ever had it never used it so it's like new and advertising 111mm aren't very common so out of thousands of Trekkers this one is a little unique. For what I paid for it I'm not going to complain about AT&T having their logo on it but I'm not going to bitch if it rubs off either.

Yours is the first ad 111mm I remember seeing Gene!!   :cheers:

Let's not forget the ULINE Camo OHT but those are perty common here in the US. I wouldn't mind finding out when and how many of these where made but for $25 deliverd it's a great user. :tu:

I do remember that one now that you mention it!!  :salute:
Title: Re: What's so special about 111mm SAK's?
Post by: gene stoner on June 25, 2016, 07:23:40 PM
Bump, some 111 eye candy to keep things going. :cheers:

There's something funny about that AT&T advertising knife. I guess those must have been gifts to investors or something, because I can't see those cheapskates giving name brand swag to their employees.

Who ever had it never used it so it's like new and advertising 111mm aren't very common so out of thousands of Trekkers this one is a little unique. For what I paid for it I'm not going to complain about AT&T having their logo on it but I'm not going to bitch if it rubs off either.

Yours is the first ad 111mm I remember seeing Gene!!   :cheers:

Let's not forget the ULINE Camo OHT but those are perty common here in the US. I wouldn't mind finding out when and how many of these where made but for $25 deliverd it's a great user. :tu:

I do remember that one now that you mention it!!  :salute:


The great thing about the ULINE OHT is if you shop around you can get a NIB one for about $30.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/ULINE-VICTORINOX-ONE-HAND-TREKKER-MULTI-TOOL-CAMO-SWISS-ARMY-KNIFE-NEW-15855-/191886592907?hash=item2cad550b8b:g:dwkAAOSwFqJWsUGq
Title: Re: What's so special about 111mm SAK's?
Post by: SAK Guy on June 25, 2016, 07:29:13 PM
Bump, some 111 eye candy to keep things going. :cheers:

There's something funny about that AT&T advertising knife. I guess those must have been gifts to investors or something, because I can't see those cheapskates giving name brand swag to their employees.

Who ever had it never used it so it's like new and advertising 111mm aren't very common so out of thousands of Trekkers this one is a little unique. For what I paid for it I'm not going to complain about AT&T having their logo on it but I'm not going to bitch if it rubs off either.

Yours is the first ad 111mm I remember seeing Gene!!   :cheers:

Let's not forget the ULINE Camo OHT but those are perty common here in the US. I wouldn't mind finding out when and how many of these where made but for $25 deliverd it's a great user. :tu:

I do remember that one now that you mention it!!  :salute:


The great thing about the ULINE OHT is if you shop around you can get a NIB one for about $30.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/ULINE-VICTORINOX-ONE-HAND-TREKKER-MULTI-TOOL-CAMO-SWISS-ARMY-KNIFE-NEW-15855-/191886592907?hash=item2cad550b8b:g:dwkAAOSwFqJWsUGq

That's a bargain!!!!! Unfortunately, I have a few things on the way and my money clip is empty for the month as well.....   :facepalm:
Title: Re: What's so special about 111mm SAK's?
Post by: SAK Guy on June 25, 2016, 07:50:51 PM
I looked back over this thread and realized that I hadn't posted this one...

A Vic Parachutist.
(http://i833.photobucket.com/albums/zz256/SAKGuy/Parachutist_zps6clkffcr.jpg)
Old pic....



I haven't posted my Locksmith either but I'll have to dig it out and get a pic sometime.
Title: Re: What's so special about 111mm SAK's?
Post by: gene stoner on June 25, 2016, 08:00:32 PM
I looked back over this thread and realized that I hadn't posted this one...

A Vic Parachutist.
(http://i833.photobucket.com/albums/zz256/SAKGuy/Parachutist_zps6clkffcr.jpg)
Old pic....



I haven't posted my Locksmith either but I'll have to dig it out and get a pic sometime.

What are you waiting for let's it. I really want a locksmith.
Title: Re: What's so special about 111mm SAK's?
Post by: SAK Guy on June 25, 2016, 08:05:55 PM
I looked back over this thread and realized that I hadn't posted this one...

A Vic Parachutist.
(http://i833.photobucket.com/albums/zz256/SAKGuy/Parachutist_zps6clkffcr.jpg)
Old pic....



I haven't posted my Locksmith either but I'll have to dig it out and get a pic sometime.

What are you waiting for let's it. I really want a locksmith.
http://forum.multitool.org/Smileys/default/rofl.gif

Ok, ok I'll put on my shoes and walk out to warehouse #6......

 ;)   :rofl:


Give me a bit to get organized.....   :salute:
Title: Re: What's so special about 111mm SAK's?
Post by: Gath on June 25, 2016, 08:34:31 PM
Bump, some 111 eye candy to keep things going. :cheers:

There's something funny about that AT&T advertising knife. I guess those must have been gifts to investors or something, because I can't see those cheapskates giving name brand swag to their employees.

Who ever had it never used it so it's like new and advertising 111mm aren't very common so out of thousands of Trekkers this one is a little unique. For what I paid for it I'm not going to complain about AT&T having their logo on it but I'm not going to bitch if it rubs off either.

Yours is the first ad 111mm I remember seeing Gene!!   :cheers:

My RescueTool is actually an ad knife, Advertising Volvo trucks, I'd say they got it spot on as their brand values strongly emphasize safety.
Title: Re: What's so special about 111mm SAK's?
Post by: gene stoner on June 25, 2016, 08:39:05 PM
Bump, some 111 eye candy to keep things going. :cheers:

There's something funny about that AT&T advertising knife. I guess those must have been gifts to investors or something, because I can't see those cheapskates giving name brand swag to their employees.

Who ever had it never used it so it's like new and advertising 111mm aren't very common so out of thousands of Trekkers this one is a little unique. For what I paid for it I'm not going to complain about AT&T having their logo on it but I'm not going to bitch if it rubs off either.

Yours is the first ad 111mm I remember seeing Gene!!   :cheers:

My RescueTool is actually an ad knife, Advertising Volvo trucks, I'd say they got it spot on as their brand values strongly emphasize safety.

Nice Volvo Rescue tool I bet that's pretty uncommon. :tu:
Title: Re: What's so special about 111mm SAK's?
Post by: SAK Guy on June 25, 2016, 09:04:59 PM
Got lucky and caught the airstrip shuttle with the tourists on the "SAKs out in back" tour....  :P

Here ya go, shown with the Cheese knife.

(http://i833.photobucket.com/albums/zz256/SAKGuy/Lock%20amp%20Cheese_zpsuzehs3bz.jpg)


Title: Re: What's so special about 111mm SAK's?
Post by: SAK Guy on June 25, 2016, 09:06:41 PM
Bump, some 111 eye candy to keep things going. :cheers:

There's something funny about that AT&T advertising knife. I guess those must have been gifts to investors or something, because I can't see those cheapskates giving name brand swag to their employees.

Who ever had it never used it so it's like new and advertising 111mm aren't very common so out of thousands of Trekkers this one is a little unique. For what I paid for it I'm not going to complain about AT&T having their logo on it but I'm not going to bitch if it rubs off either.

Yours is the first ad 111mm I remember seeing Gene!!   :cheers:

My RescueTool is actually an ad knife, Advertising Volvo trucks, I'd say they got it spot on as their brand values strongly emphasize safety.

Nice Volvo Rescue tool I bet that's pretty uncommon. :tu:

+1!!!! Very cool!!!   
Title: Re: What's so special about 111mm SAK's?
Post by: gene stoner on June 25, 2016, 09:11:40 PM
Got lucky and caught the airstrip shuttle with the tourists on the "SAKs out in back" tour....  :P

Here ya go, shown with the Cheese knife.

(http://i833.photobucket.com/albums/zz256/SAKGuy/Lock%20amp%20Cheese_zpsuzehs3bz.jpg)

Very nice SG. Thanks :cheers: Is the cheese knife full or partial serated?
Title: Re: What's so special about 111mm SAK's?
Post by: SAK Guy on June 25, 2016, 09:33:26 PM
Got lucky and caught the airstrip shuttle with the tourists on the "SAKs out in back" tour....  :P

Here ya go, shown with the Cheese knife.

(http://i833.photobucket.com/albums/zz256/SAKGuy/Lock%20amp%20Cheese_zpsuzehs3bz.jpg)

Very nice SG. Thanks :cheers: Is the cheese knife full or partial serated?

Thanks!!  Partial, about 70% serrated.
Title: Re: What's so special about 111mm SAK's?
Post by: WoodsDuck on June 26, 2016, 03:14:46 AM
Bump, some 111 eye candy to keep things going. :cheers:

There's something funny about that AT&T advertising knife. I guess those must have been gifts to investors or something, because I can't see those cheapskates giving name brand swag to their employees.

Who ever had it never used it so it's like new and advertising 111mm aren't very common so out of thousands of Trekkers this one is a little unique. For what I paid for it I'm not going to complain about AT&T having their logo on it but I'm not going to bitch if it rubs off either.

Yours is the first ad 111mm I remember seeing Gene!!   :cheers:

Let's not forget the ULINE Camo OHT but those are perty common here in the US. I wouldn't mind finding out when and how many of these where made but for $25 deliverd it's a great user. :tu:

I do remember that one now that you mention it!!  :salute:


The great thing about the ULINE OHT is if you shop around you can get a NIB one for about $30.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/ULINE-VICTORINOX-ONE-HAND-TREKKER-MULTI-TOOL-CAMO-SWISS-ARMY-KNIFE-NEW-15855-/191886592907?hash=item2cad550b8b:g:dwkAAOSwFqJWsUGq

My OHT NS came from Amazon Warehouse Deals. Someone returned a brand new one for whatever reason and I got it for $26.
Title: Re: What's so special about 111mm SAK's?
Post by: SAK Guy on June 26, 2016, 10:44:20 PM
Did I post this one?

Hunter XS
(http://i833.photobucket.com/albums/zz256/SAKGuy/Hunter%20XS_zpsny1t4v6y.jpg)
Title: Re: What's so special about 111mm SAK's?
Post by: twiliter on June 27, 2016, 12:57:05 AM
Got lucky and caught the airstrip shuttle with the tourists on the "SAKs out in back" tour....  :P

Here ya go, shown with the Cheese knife.

(http://i833.photobucket.com/albums/zz256/SAKGuy/Lock%20amp%20Cheese_zpsuzehs3bz.jpg)

Very nice SG. Thanks :cheers: Is the cheese knife full or partial serated?

Thanks!!  Partial, about 70% serrated.

This is my Käsemesser upgrade from my old Hardwood Cheese model, which has the opener layer that I don't use (because I always have one in my pocket). Shows the serration pattern from the reverse angle. I use it for KP when I need something bigger than a 91-93mm main blade, so not often, but also to remove corks and bits of underdone potato from teeth.  :D
Title: Re: What's so special about 111mm SAK's?
Post by: twiliter on June 27, 2016, 01:07:53 AM
The front scale reminds me of the OC alox.  :) I did search for a limited edition horn scaled model, but never found one that wasn't outrageously priced.  :-\
Title: The simple things in life are often the best....
Post by: TheDude on June 27, 2016, 08:14:00 AM
Sentinel.
$40 is more that what you'd pay on sale for a 111mm with more functions. But its thin, light weight, and in some respects makes me wonder why I spent twice that on my Spyderco edc. :think:
BTW anyone seen one with just the file, and the rest of the standard functions?
Title: Re: The simple things in life are often the best....
Post by: Zephon on June 27, 2016, 08:19:10 AM
Sentinel.
$40 is more that what you'd pay on sale for a 111mm with more functions. But its thin, light weight, and in some respects makes me wonder why I spent twice that on my Spyderco edc. :think:
BTW anyone seen one with just the file, and the rest of the standard functions?


I think the metal file is the "premium" item for the 111mm.  Based on the catalog, I don't see anyone below a Workchamp and Locksmith having a metal file.  I would like something like that too -- something like a 91mm Mountaineer but in 111mm.
Title: Oh it exists...
Post by: TheDude on June 27, 2016, 09:18:16 AM
The One Hand Master.... But very elusive. They should call it the "One arm bandit".
Title: Re: What's so special about 111mm SAK's?
Post by: gene stoner on June 29, 2016, 05:32:06 PM
Here's some pics to compare the old linerlock with the new using a DE GM  Trekker and a 2011 Soldier. I had no idea the old lock was so much thinner then the newer ones. But now I understand why the newer ones need the press bump.
Without it there's not enough to get your fingers on to unlock the lock on the heavier spring.
Title: Re: What's so special about 111mm SAK's?
Post by: Ron Who on August 17, 2016, 06:04:21 PM
The bigger models aren't more special than the others (or less), they're just bigger and will handle bigger tasks.
Title: Re: What's so special about 111mm SAK's?
Post by: AndyTiedye on August 17, 2016, 07:38:00 PM
I gifted my Rescue tool to my cousin, an EMT.  Now I want another...... :facepalm:

The way I see it we gift our knives around to fool ourselves to thinking our urge is more sensible than pathological.
Rescue Tool is safety equipment. Should have one in the car at all times.
Title: Re: What's so special about 111mm SAK's?
Post by: JamesJ on August 18, 2016, 05:22:56 AM

Rescue Tool is safety equipment. Should have one in the car at all times.

Agree. One in each 111mm scale color option including the glow. One set in each car.
Title: Re: What's so special about 111mm SAK's?
Post by: JamesJ on August 18, 2016, 05:25:44 AM
Got lucky and caught the airstrip shuttle with the tourists on the "SAKs out in back" tour....  :P

Here ya go, shown with the Cheese knife.

(http://i833.photobucket.com/albums/zz256/SAKGuy/Lock%20amp%20Cheese_zpsuzehs3bz.jpg)

Very nice SG. Thanks :cheers: Is the cheese knife full or partial serated?

Thanks!!  Partial, about 70% serrated.

This is my Käsemesser upgrade from my old Hardwood Cheese model, which has the opener layer that I don't use (because I always have one in my pocket). Shows the serration pattern from the reverse angle. I use it for KP when I need something bigger than a 91-93mm main blade, so not often, but also to remove corks and bits of underdone potato from teeth.  :D

I love that red lock slider. Mine are all gray.
Title: Re: What's so special about 111mm SAK's?
Post by: JamesJ on August 18, 2016, 05:48:34 AM
I want a WorkChamp. Love the small phillips and I like how they tuck tools underneath the scissors and pliers, making for less layers than equivalent 91mm knife. I could see the WorkChamp as my "you can only take one" wilderness SAK.

I also have a thing for those Garant scales and orange/ruler tweezers. Woulda been cool if it had orange headed fire steel instead of toothpick, and orange mini screwdriver with phillips head....3D printing isn't quite cheap enough yet :)
A cutout for the swisscard type nailfile would be ultra-nice. Seems like there would be room on this size of scale.

Some jealousy-inducing collections here. I really like the blue scales with compass rose design on all the fishing/boating models, but I'm not sure I'd use the nautical oriented tools.

My favorite is still that white one I saw on another thread, with a name like "Leia" or something.
Title: Re: What's so special about 111mm SAK's?
Post by: SAK Guy on August 18, 2016, 07:04:27 AM
I want a WorkChamp. Love the small phillips and I like how they tuck tools underneath the scissors and pliers, making for less layers than equivalent 91mm knife. I could see the WorkChamp as my "you can only take one" wilderness SAK.

I also have a thing for those Garant scales and orange/ruler tweezers. Woulda been cool if it had orange headed fire steel instead of toothpick, and orange mini screwdriver with phillips head....3D printing isn't quite cheap enough yet :)
A cutout for the swisscard type nailfile would be ultra-nice. Seems like there would be room on this size of scale.

Some jealousy-inducing collections here. I really like the blue scales with compass rose design on all the fishing/boating models, but I'm not sure I'd use the nautical oriented tools.

My favorite is still that white one I saw on another thread, with a name like "Leia" or something.

Yeah the Workchamp's really awesome!!!   >:D :pok: :pok:


It was Leica, like the camera.  :cheers: :cheers: 
I need one too to match my Spartan!  :facepalm:
Title: Re: What's so special about 111mm SAK's?
Post by: Ron Who on August 28, 2016, 07:07:39 PM
Way back in the previous century, I was a young man still, I did an intensive ERT training -- first aid in disaster areas.
I'm glad to say that there's been no need to apply this training. Nevertheless, being prepared matters.
Title: Re: What's so special about 111mm SAK's?
Post by: SAK Guy on August 31, 2016, 06:52:00 AM
Well, just found this pic from last Dec so....apparently I have a Tradesman stuck in a bag somewhere. :facepalm:

(http://i833.photobucket.com/albums/zz256/SAKGuy/Reposts/Tradesman_zpsfoc1sfrt.jpg)
Title: Re: What's so special about 111mm SAK's?
Post by: cali-SAK-attack on August 31, 2016, 08:13:42 AM
 :D :facepalm:  :tu:
Title: Re: What's so special about 111mm SAK's?
Post by: Thunderpants on August 31, 2016, 08:36:52 AM
I was really looking forward to getting an Outrider, but quite disappointed when I finally got one.
The good thing about the OH Trekker/ Forester /Soldier etc is they are slender and pocketable. Adding one more layer suddenly gives you a big fat knife that loses that portability.
The scissors on the Outrider are what you'd find on any 91mm SAK, while the long, narrow philips turns out to be too tiny for most uses.  The stubby philips on the Atlas is a far more useful tool - again, you'll find the exact same tool many 91mm SAKs.
I love the size of the 111mm Saks - I love the OH blades, the serrations, the long saw etc. Having tried several I have concluded that for me, the trick is to have a 111mm SAK that does what 111mm SAKs do best (long blades!), and match it with a 91mm SAK that gives you the things you're missing - ie a Forester and an Explorer, for instance, or a Locksmith and Deluxe Tinker.
I suppose the other approach is to simply buy a Workchamp and a pouch - a drastic step that irreversibly ruins your chances of ever having sex...
Title: Re: What's so special about 111mm SAK's?
Post by: glenfiddich1983 on August 31, 2016, 08:57:35 AM
I was really looking forward to getting an Outrider, but quite disappointed when I finally got one.
The good thing about the OH Trekker/ Forester /Soldier etc is they are slender and pocketable. Adding one more layer suddenly gives you a big fat knife that loses that portability.
The scissors on the Outrider are what you'd find on any 91mm SAK, while the long, narrow philips turns out to be too tiny for most uses.  The stubby philips on the Atlas is a far more useful tool - again, you'll find the exact same tool many 91mm SAKs.
I love the size of the 111mm Saks - I love the OH blades, the serrations, the long saw etc. Having tried several I have concluded that for me, the trick is to have a 111mm SAK that does what 111mm SAKs do best (long blades!), and match it with a 91mm SAK that gives you the things you're missing - ie a Forester and an Explorer, for instance, or a Locksmith and Deluxe Tinker.
I suppose the other approach is to simply buy a Workchamp and a pouch - a drastic step that irreversibly ruins your chances of ever having sex...

Great observation! I have an Outrider on the way, time will tell how I like it  :salute:
Title: Re: What's so special about 111mm SAK's?
Post by: Thunderpants on August 31, 2016, 09:25:29 AM
Thanks Glennfiddich!
I ought to point out that the word "AGAIN" is missing from the last line of my previous post.... a small but important word, given the context.
Title: Re: What's so special about 111mm SAK's?
Post by: glenfiddich1983 on August 31, 2016, 09:36:57 AM
Thanks Glennfiddich!
I ought to point out that the word "AGAIN" is missing from the last line of my previous post.... a small but important word, given the context.

 :rofl:
Title: Re: What's so special about 111mm SAK's?
Post by: SAK Guy on August 31, 2016, 03:14:44 PM
:D :facepalm:  :tu:

Thanks Cali!!!!  :D
Title: Re: What's so special about 111mm SAK's?
Post by: ChopperCharles on May 19, 2018, 01:12:31 AM
I was looking at the 111mm models... but once it's that big, why not just jump straight to the 130mm knives? I was considering the Outrider, but if it's going to be a saddle-bag knife anyhow, the RangerWood 55 seems like a better deal. Bigger saw, bigger blade, sounds like a plan to me.

Charles.

Title: Re: What's so special about 111mm SAK's?
Post by: kmanct3 on May 19, 2018, 01:58:54 AM
My OHT is my favorite 111, guess I need to post some pics
Title: Re: What's so special about 111mm SAK's?
Post by: ThePeacent on May 19, 2018, 12:38:09 PM
I was looking at the 111mm models... but once it's that big, why not just jump straight to the 130mm knives? I was considering the Outrider, but if it's going to be a saddle-bag knife anyhow, the RangerWood 55 seems like a better deal. Bigger saw, bigger blade, sounds like a plan to me.

Charles.

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Title: Re: What's so special about 111mm SAK's?
Post by: EMZ on May 19, 2018, 01:41:23 PM
The Victorinox Atlas. Probably the most underestimated slide-lock 111 mm ever. Last week I bought two Atlas's, just to make sure I have them, because it is no longer produced.

Although the Atlas is rather thick, it still can be carried as a pocket knife. Not really comfortable, I know, but it can be done!
In my opinion this may be the best all-round camping, bush craft and survival knife ever. Scissors are nice when you are around your home or at the office, but out there in the fields you probably are better off with small pliers when you have to apply force that is beyond the force that your bare, maybe wounded or frozen fingers can't deliver.
Title: Re: What's so special about 111mm SAK's?
Post by: kmanct3 on May 19, 2018, 06:24:47 PM
Here are my 111’s(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180519/9460ab6c4b598cf0990cde10918de27e.jpg)