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Tool Talk => Collector's Forum => Topic started by: ausjulius on January 07, 2007, 06:26:47 PM
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http://www.turpintyme.com/knife/
hi , a chap has emailed me with this,, hammer knife thingy, its not realy true multi tool, but this is the soviets crack at it , it was made sometime in the 1930s,
anyway , have a look, interesting,
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That is a fascinating piece of craftsmanship ausjulius, thanks for sharing it with us! Think of the time someone must have spent creating it........
Question: what do you suppose this tool is?
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That looks lik ethe telecommunications tool we saw on some of the other tools! The Russians must have been WAY more advanced than the Yanks!
:D
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That is exactly what I was thinking! A 1930's version of the "mecto ynopa" we looked at a couple months ago.
Link: http://forum.multitool.org/index.php/topic,236.0.html
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Few people know that the internet was alive and well in the early 30's in Russia. The only problem was that no one had computers to access it!
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I thought Al Gore was the father of the Internet?! Damnit, it's all lies, lies, lies! ??? :D
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I thought Al Gore was the father of the Internet?! Damnit, it's all lies, lies, lies! ??? :D
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v307/jooliesews/Bobbys/roll.gif)(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v307/jooliesews/Bobbys/roll.gif)(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v307/jooliesews/Bobbys/roll.gif)
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The only thing Al Gore invented was Manbearpig...
(http://groovy.movingtonz.com/images/algore.jpg)
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That is an interesting and beautiful looking tool. It would be nice to see how that tool compared to a modern multi, both in to days world and its 'native' time.
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The only thing Al Gore invented was Manbearpig...
(http://groovy.movingtonz.com/images/algore.jpg)
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(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v307/jooliesews/Bobbys/roll.gif)
I'm working to spread Manbearpig awareness.
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Few people know that the internet was alive and well in the early 30's in Russia. The only problem was that no one had computers to access it!
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:D :D :D :D :D "mecto ynopa" :D :D :D :D :D :D
Место упора , it would be written as "measto oupora" measto is a place , and oupora is a emphasis.. so place of emphasis, or point of force,
this does look just like the tool that was on here some months ago, thats why i put it up here, ive never seen anythign quite like it,
in soviet russia you dont access the internet the internet access you ! ::) ::) :D :laugh: couldnt help that one :d..
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I love Yakov Smirnoff's stuff!
Even funnier when typed with a Russian accent too! :D
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THEORY: At least, from the lion drawing, it may be a possible import from mMongolia/northern china. or constructed on the russian side of the border(due to the cross-cultural influences of the time)
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The only thing Al Gore invented was Manbearpig...
According to this classic Snickers commercial he also invented pants.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=litHPx4ge78
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I like that multitool! (the Russian one!) thanks for sharing it :cheers:
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That's very nice looking MT thanks for sharing ;)
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looks like bit holders to me
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Hello folk,
i have recently found the origin of this tool , and it is not at all russian , and is rather quite old, proably around 100 years old or somewhat more.
It is italian, and specilicaly from the region of tuscany..
these style of knife were popular starting from around 1800 for hunters,, and normaly this style of etching was common,,
this is a complexed exsample,,
the tool we all could not figuer out is so obvious,, it sia nipple wrench for a percussion guns nipple, proably a shotgun ,
actualy these percussion guns were used in southern europe untill 1900 or so.. as they were cheap to shoot.
the hammer is for hitting a drift to move sites and for other work..
this tool is a common italian item for a hunters kit of the 19th centuary..
hope this helps..
there is 2 firms from russia that do to this day market a multitool... however these are modern items , hat are quite different than this,
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"there is 2 firms from russia that do to this day market a multitool... however these are modern items , hat are quite different than this,"
Just out of curiosity are they made in Russia and can you show us pictures of them?
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yes some are i suspect some are now not always..
ill upload fotos later..
to tools from noks ,, there is about 4 different tools.. i think they were made for the owner of noks my saro or meta-k which are both firms producing steel products, saro makes a large range of knives,
there is another firm making a funky large multitool plier..
there is amny makers making combination tool knives, but these are still all mainly a knife.......
ii can post these products too, but they have no plier head on them ,
they are like a folding hatchet spade tool , with tools attacked and butterfly knife type tools with many tools in the handle.. ect ect.. only 2 frims have a plier multitool
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I'm looking forward to the photo's mate :)
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hi ok , there is for plier based tools..
based tools,
saro , noks, and kulinkovo pole
see in that order..
then there is ofcorse many many others than are knif ebased tools, knives with other tools on the , such as awls and saws and wire breakers and can openers, ect ect
first pic is
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here is the nicks sapper in close up
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and specs
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Wow, awesome looking tools!
They look like something from an alternate universe...they are similar to a lot of western designs..but have subtle differences.
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Wow... I want some of those. :o
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I like that bayonet style blade- debatable for functionality but looks really cool! :D
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I like that bayonet style blade- debatable for functionality but looks really cool! :D
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You don't find a blood groove in a multitool blade to be a useful feature? ??? ??? ;)
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(http://www.knifebargains.co.uk/acatalog/crkt_m16-13Z_carson_more.jpg)
It does seem somewhat reminiscent of the CRKT M-16.
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I always wanted one of the sexier M16's in a spear point.
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I have one of the original tantos... from back in the days before they started putting flippers on them.
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I have one of the original tantos... from back in the days before they started putting flippers on them.
And I'm sure you had to fight a bear with your bare hands and a broken leg to get it too.
You old geezer.
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Wow, awesome looking tools!
They look like something from an alternate universe...they are similar to a lot of western designs..but have subtle differences.
haha indeed, yes the russian knife market revolved around another range of interest and customers.. so the products are a little different ,
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and specs
thats a very nice one:)
i am going to try to find some information about it. since i was born in the old USSR, maybe my old pals can get me some information about it:)
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and specs
thats a very nice one:)
i am going to try to find some information about it. since i was born in the old USSR, maybe my old pals can get me some information about it:)
Looking forward to hearing what you find out ptolemy :)
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my friend said that this version is for the military and shouldnt be as easy to find as the generic one made for the civilian use.
also it's considered 'cold weapon' as any knife live weapon.
he said he will look into it...we shall see what he comes up with...
some interesting names of the tools there...
the on the right side (the one on top that has writing extended furthest right) translated it says something like: holder for the detonating cap. interesting for sure :)
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Are you referring to this picture here ptolemy?
(http://forum.multitool.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=576.0;attach=10496;image)
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correct :)
i am not sure how to translate it property since i havent lived there for many years and it uses fairly specialize jargon
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I would kill for that tool!
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Are you referring to this picture here ptolemy?
(http://forum.multitool.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=576.0;attach=10496;image)
Here's my try at translating the text (I'm fluent in Russian, reading and writing zzz long story)
Multifunctional knife-instrument "Vzmash-3" - fist and only "super tool" of Russian manufacture, developed as a sappers combat knife. This knife is also looked at as a survival and combat knife for special operations in urbanized terrain. Functions - Main blade, pliers with wire cutters, and detonator/wire crimper, wood saw, metal saw (back of wood saw), ruler, two flat head screwdrivers - small and large, philips driver, wire stripper, awl/reamer, can opener, probe (hard to translate and function is not described properly, the item described is the end of the pliers handle). This knife got it's "baptism of fire" in "Nord Ost" (the theater performance taken over by Chechen terrorist in Moscow in 2002 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nord-Ost) in clearing explosive devices. Knife "Vzmash-3" is officially adopted for military use (the civilian version is called "Professional").
There is a wrench by the pliers head that is not described in the summary, but there is an line pointing to it the picture. Also the picture points and describes a spring, looks like the pliers are spring loaded. There is a thumb stud for one handed opening of the main blade, and what looks like a liner lock.
Some of the specs.
Fully extended 250.5mm
Folded 140mm
Main Blade length 110mm
Blade at maximum width 26.8mm
Blade thickness 3.7mm
Handle width (at mid line) 36.5mm
Handle thickness (at mid line) 27mm
Wood saw length 110mm
Metal saw length 97.5mm
Main Blade Hardness, HRC 56-58
Main Blade - steel 95X18MShD
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my friend found a price for this, its $275 or so (its 7500 rubles, but due to the fluxtuation of rufle vs dollar it also fluxuates)
thats the price inside russia, i guess u have to add $20-25 for s/h and i have no idea regarding the laws of russia/your country regarding this knife. i am guessing my friend (if it can be gotten) might be willing to do me a favor/see what can be done about it, but after he mails it, it's on his own for the customs...