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Title: Need a SAK IDed
Post by: WH867 on June 17, 2008, 04:26:06 AM
I just got this today. Im still pretty new to SAKs so not up on my model names. I have found a couple models that are close. But not exact.  Closest thing I have found is a Craftsman model. But this one doesnt have a hook.
Dennis
Title: Re: Need a SAK IDed
Post by: max6166 on June 17, 2008, 05:40:10 AM
I think it is a pre-1991 Craftsman. The hook wasn't introduced until 1991 according to the gurus at SOSAK.

Title: Re: Need a SAK IDed
Post by: Mike, Lord of the Spammers! on June 17, 2008, 07:24:15 AM
Yep it sounds like Max is right :)
Title: Re: Need a SAK IDed
Post by: WH867 on June 17, 2008, 07:49:51 AM
Thanks Guys :salute:  . I think with  a set of plus scales this would make a good EDC.
Title: Re: Need a SAK IDed
Post by: Grant Lamontagne on June 17, 2008, 07:43:33 PM
I think it is a pre-1991 Craftsman. The hook wasn't introduced until 1991 according to SmartKnives.

According to information in SOSAK that was provided to SmartKnives that they never credited you mean... :P

Def
Title: Re: Need a SAK IDed
Post by: Benner on June 17, 2008, 11:24:45 PM
I think it is a pre-1991 Craftsman. The hook wasn't introduced until 1991 according to SmartKnives.

According to information in SOSAK that was provided to SmartKnives that they never credited you mean... :P

Def

Not that Def is bitter about it or anything.  :D
Title: Re: Need a SAK IDed
Post by: Mike, Lord of the Spammers! on June 17, 2008, 11:25:37 PM
Yet another idea stolen boss >:(
Title: Re: Need a SAK IDed
Post by: Grant Lamontagne on June 18, 2008, 01:50:58 AM
*making no further comments on the subject*

Def
Title: Re: Need a SAK IDed
Post by: max6166 on June 18, 2008, 05:31:30 AM
Sorry about that. I wasn't aware of the origin of that information.

No matter what the field of interest, there always seems to be one character like that out there...



Title: Re: Need a SAK IDed
Post by: WH867 on July 26, 2008, 07:39:16 AM
Sorry to be a pain but I need another IDed :D.   This SAK thing is all you guys fault anyway.   After looking at the SAK selector(Which is great) Im guessing this in an older climber.  The no hook and split corkscrew tell me its older. Im slowly learning :)   This knife does'nt have the key ring on it.  Was that common on older models?
Title: Re: Need a SAK IDed
Post by: max6166 on July 26, 2008, 07:55:49 AM
Close but I think it is a Traveller, a close relative of the Climber which doesn't have a key ring.

I am not an expert though. You should definitely join SOSAK, that's where the experts are. There was just a discussion there about Climber variants the other day.

Title: Re: Need a SAK IDed
Post by: Mike, Lord of the Spammers! on July 26, 2008, 08:34:12 AM
I think Max is right again (the lad's good!) :)
Title: Re: Need a SAK IDed
Post by: WH867 on July 26, 2008, 09:22:36 AM
Close but I think it is a Traveller, a close relative of the Climber which doesn't have a key ring.

I am not an expert though. You should definitely join SOSAK, that's where the experts are. There was just a discussion there about Climber variants the other day.


Thanks Max :cheers:.     Not sure that joining SOSAK would be a good thing. Trying to avoid another full scale addiction :)
Title: Re: Need a SAK IDed
Post by: Mike, Lord of the Spammers! on July 26, 2008, 09:33:34 AM
Close but I think it is a Traveller, a close relative of the Climber which doesn't have a key ring.

I am not an expert though. You should definitely join SOSAK, that's where the experts are. There was just a discussion there about Climber variants the other day.


Thanks Max :cheers:.     Not sure that joining SOSAK would be a good thing. Trying to avoid another full scale addiction :)
:D :D

It's still a good resource for information though :)
Title: Re: Need a SAK IDed
Post by: max6166 on July 26, 2008, 10:17:42 AM
Thanks Max :cheers:.     Not sure that joining SOSAK would be a good thing. Trying to avoid another full scale addiction :)

It's already too late, my friend. Your already researching this stuff way past the level of casual interest. I can tell when someone's got the bug...   >:D  :D

Honestly though, as long as you stay focused on just getting knives that are truly useful to you, you won't buy very many at all. I've only got 3 SAKs and they cost me a total of about $40 shipped. There a few models I'd still like to get, but they are mostly cheap as well and I am in no hurry. I'll just keep a close eye out for deals and pick up 2 or 3 a year.

This is especially true if you are primarily interested in simpler SAKs like Waiters, Climbers, and Tinkers. They can be had for under $10, and are not much more brand new. Check out these prices at FelineVet's (http://felinevet.sosakonline.com/index.php?option=com_phpshop&page=shop.browse&category_id=1c914424d2569bea3439fbcca9123a27&option=com_phpshop&Itemid=1), where you should always buy first if you can.

I am the same way with multitools actually. I like to learn all about them, but only so that I can make a very informed decision to purchase the ones I will actually use. If I know that I have bought the thing that serves me best, I am not tempted to buy something that I know from research will do a worse job.

As well, reading people's reviews and opinions, you almost get to own many objects vicariously so that you don't want to buy them. There are many tools which I don't want any more because other people's reviews and pictures have fully satisfied my curiousity.

Plus I am just plain poor...  :P

Title: Re: Need a SAK IDed
Post by: Steel Blade on July 27, 2008, 12:44:13 PM
Close but I think it is a Traveller, a close relative of the Climber which doesn't have a key ring.

I am not an expert though. You should definitely join SOSAK, that's where the experts are. There was just a discussion there about Climber variants the other day.


Thanks Max :cheers:.     Not sure that joining SOSAK would be a good thing. Trying to avoid another full scale addiction :)
:D :D

It's still a good resource for information though :)

I can't see how anyone can get addicted to SAK's. After all it is just a knife isn't it?

Hang on a minute I just have  got to check an 84mm Climber on e-bay, and I probably won't even buy it.

I am definitely not addicted. I have just a rather large edc rotation. LOL

Bob

Title: Re: Need a SAK IDed
Post by: Mike, Lord of the Spammers! on July 27, 2008, 12:54:27 PM
Any chance of some pics of your ''large EDC rotation'' ???
Title: Re: Need a SAK IDed
Post by: Steel Blade on July 27, 2008, 03:24:56 PM
Ok, Micky I will try and post some pics tomorrow, of my SAK's not my socks!

BR

Bob
Title: Re: Need a SAK IDed
Post by: Neil on July 27, 2008, 04:05:42 PM
...
Hang on a minute I just have  got to check an 84mm Climber on e-bay, and I probably won't even buy it.

I am definitely not addicted. I have just a rather large edc rotation. LOL

Bob



And leave off that beaten up 84mm alox job! (I know your tastes ;) )  Its gonna be mine, mine, MINE :P
..... or smartknives will get it again  :cry:

Neil
Title: Re: Need a SAK IDed
Post by: Steel Blade on July 27, 2008, 04:28:09 PM
A few littering my desk.

Two Salesmen, short Climber, Golfer, two short Tinkers and a five layer thingy I cant remember the name of. All 84mm.  I also have another short Climber in a bag of bits that I am going to mod hopefully into a Salesman with a nail-file.

Neil I have almost finished collecting my 84mm now. I have an 84mm Fieldmaster on the way and there is not many gaps. I have no interest in the bale models. As for anything else Que Sera, Sera.

Best regards

Bob
Title: Re: Need a SAK IDed
Post by: Leatherman123 on July 27, 2008, 04:41:47 PM
I really like that five layer thingy! I bet you want to get rid of it!  :D
Title: Re: Need a SAK IDed
Post by: Neil on July 27, 2008, 04:47:05 PM
So what models are you still hunting for?   I don't think I've got anything you're missing but if I see any I'll happily provide links :)

I used to avoid bidding on auctions I saw SOSAK members had already bid on but with eBay scrambling names I can't do that any more.  So is life :D

Neil
Title: Re: Need a SAK IDed
Post by: Steel Blade on July 27, 2008, 05:32:16 PM
Neil I don't know what I am missing until I see it come up for auction. There is not many coming up in 84mm now I do not have. Thanks for your kind offer however.

It is difficult these days on ebay, I honestly do not have a clue who I am bidding against. When I see the item, I decide my max and set my snipe. I never increase the amount, but sometimes I will withdraw it. In the past I seem to remember you beating me for an old silver alox ribbed knife, which has been marvelously resuscitated by someone recently. LOL

Regards

Bob
Title: Re: Need a SAK IDed
Post by: Steel Blade on July 27, 2008, 06:28:48 PM
...
Hang on a minute I just have  got to check an 84mm Climber on e-bay, and I probably won't even buy it.

I am definitely not addicted. I have just a rather large edc rotation. LOL

Bob



And leave off that beaten up 84mm alox job! (I know your tastes ;) )  Its gonna be mine, mine, MINE :P
..... or smartknives will get it again  :cry:

Neil

Well Neil I was outbid on that old alox Voyageur, Were you SAK modder?

Bob
Title: Re: Need a SAK IDed
Post by: Neil on July 27, 2008, 06:41:44 PM
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In the past I seem to remember you beating me for an old silver alox ribbed knife,

 :oops: Sorry, I probably didn't recognise your ID back then (twas some time ago), my bad  :-[

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Well Neil I was outbid on that old alox Voyageur, Were you SAK modder?

  :ahhh Why didn't you tell me you were already on it?  ???  I'm a nice chap, I'd have left it alone  :-[

Yes, I won it and was temporarily very excited.  If you still want it I'm sure we can sort something out. 

You haven't already set a snipe on the Camping pruner he has up do you? 

Neil  <off to hang his head in shame>
Title: Re: Need a SAK IDed
Post by: Mike, Lord of the Spammers! on July 27, 2008, 06:44:47 PM
Nice 84 line up mate :)

So what is it with the 84's that keeps you coming back mate ???
Title: Re: Need a SAK IDed
Post by: Steel Blade on July 27, 2008, 07:13:02 PM
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In the past I seem to remember you beating me for an old silver alox ribbed knife,

 :oops: Sorry, I probably didn't recognise your ID back then (twas some time ago), my bad  :-[

Quote
Well Neil I was outbid on that old alox Voyageur, Were you SAK modder?

  :ahhh Why didn't you tell me you were already on it?  ???  I'm a nice chap, I'd have left it alone  :-[

Yes, I won it and was temporarily very excited.  If you still want it I'm sure we can sort something out. 

You haven't already set a snipe on the Camping pruner he has up do you? 

Neil  <off to hang his head in shame>

Keep the knife Neil, you won it fair and square. Rest easy I have no more snipes!

I was only being greedy as I already have a Voyageur. I look forward to your restoration photos.


Bob


Ps I will probably stop buying on ebay for a while now. Good hunting!
Title: Re: Need a SAK IDed
Post by: Steel Blade on July 27, 2008, 08:21:07 PM
Nice 84 line up mate :)

So what is it with the 84's that keeps you coming back mate ???

Sorry to Hi-jack this thread.


Micky I like the size for edc. I also like the Wenger 85's but I am not a great fan of their scissors. The Salesman (basically an 84mm SUPER Tinker) is my favourite configuration in that size.

But I collect other sizes too and alox, 84mm was just my latest thing. I think I just like cleaning up the old models and bringing an old stiff gunked up model back to life. Hearing the"snap' of a well oiled SAK.

Three generations of Scottish engineering in my background has to come out somehow!

Regards


Bob
Title: Re: Need a SAK IDed
Post by: Neil on July 27, 2008, 08:22:50 PM
I'm glad you've already got a Voyageur, this will be my first and considering the cost of them, probably last.  I now only feel bad.  Rather than  :ahhh I've done it again!  :ahhh

There will be lush glamour pics!

I always tread on toes when it comes to 84mm SAKs  :-[

Sorry

Neil
Title: Re: Need a SAK IDed
Post by: Neil on July 27, 2008, 08:24:20 PM
Bob, are you short Tinkers round or square shank phillips and do they have the nail file on them?

Neil
Title: Re: Need a SAK IDed
Post by: Steel Blade on July 27, 2008, 08:31:27 PM
Neil both are round shank (split) neither are with the nail file. (??)

Don't feel bad! I was only going to use the Voyageur as an edc. I don't dare carry my new (old) one after what it cost me.

BR

Bob
Title: Re: Need a SAK IDed
Post by: Neil on July 27, 2008, 09:52:59 PM
The one I've just won appeals in that I won't be scared to carry it and I get to do it up.  Hopefully it'll just need the blade reprofiling and a bit of spit and polish.

They don't go for pocket change; Its got to be one of the most expensive discontinued SAKs.  On the good condition ones I've seen I haven't even bothered bidding, knowing they'd go for well outside my budget.

So, you don't have a little square shank Tinker  :think:  I feel a karma restoration plan coming together  :)  I don't like taking glamour shots with artificial light, so I'll PM you tomorrow with some pics and a cunning plan ;)

Neil

Title: Re: Need a SAK IDed
Post by: Mike, Lord of the Spammers! on July 27, 2008, 10:28:43 PM
Nice 84 line up mate :)

So what is it with the 84's that keeps you coming back mate ???

Sorry to Hi-jack this thread.


Micky I like the size for edc. I also like the Wenger 85's but I am not a great fan of their scissors. The Salesman (basically an 84mm SUPER Tinker) is my favourite configuration in that size.

But I collect other sizes too and alox, 84mm was just my latest thing. I think I just like cleaning up the old models and bringing an old stiff gunked up model back to life. Hearing the"snap' of a well oiled SAK.

Three generations of Scottish engineering in my background has to come out somehow!

Regards


Bob
Thanks for the reply mate :), my experience of 84mm is pretty much confined to Eco and Alox Lumberjack's and My first Vic's :)
Title: Re: Need a SAK IDed
Post by: Neil on July 27, 2008, 10:47:05 PM
I like the My First. I have a nice black one that I think looks all grown up :D
Though I have been told by my betters that they are just to be treated as a source of parts ;)

Neil
Title: Re: Need a SAK IDed
Post by: Mike, Lord of the Spammers! on July 27, 2008, 10:49:03 PM
I don't know about you, but I hate to see anything that cute get all broken up :cry:
Title: Re: Need a SAK IDed
Post by: Neil on July 27, 2008, 10:51:27 PM
What would I make my sarnies with... for I have no Flair!  :ahhh

Neil
Title: Re: Need a SAK IDed
Post by: Mike, Lord of the Spammers! on July 27, 2008, 10:52:15 PM
What would I make my sarnies with... for I have no Flair!  :ahhh

Neil
At least in theory you could put the Vic away dirty... :D
Title: Re: Need a SAK IDed
Post by: Steel Blade on July 27, 2008, 10:57:00 PM
The one I've just won appeals in that I won't be scared to carry it and I get to do it up.  Hopefully it'll just need the blade reprofiling and a bit of spit and polish.

They don't go for pocket change; Its got to be one of the most expensive discontinued SAKs.  On the good condition ones I've seen I haven't even bothered bidding, knowing they'd go for well outside my budget.

So, you don't have a little square shank Tinker  :think:  I feel a karma restoration plan coming together  :)  I don't like taking glamour shots with artificial light, so I'll PM you tomorrow with some pics and a cunning plan ;)

Neil



I am intrigued now.

I can't wait until tomorrow.

Best regards

Bob
Title: Re: Need a SAK IDed
Post by: Neil on July 27, 2008, 11:19:33 PM
What would I make my sarnies with... for I have no Flair!  :ahhh

Neil
At least in theory you could put the Vic away dirty... :D

(http://www.knifeforums.com/forums/images/smilies/roll.gif)  Cutting but true :D

Neil
Title: Re: Need a SAK IDed
Post by: Mike, Lord of the Spammers! on July 27, 2008, 11:20:05 PM
 :D :D
Title: Re: Need a SAK IDed
Post by: DaveK on July 28, 2008, 01:13:49 AM
I don't know about you, but I hate to see anything that cute get all broken up :cry:

Oh, you'd have loved it here earlier then. I smashed up 5 SAKs earlier as my "build your own swisschamp" gets up to speed.

(http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e10/DaveK-ToolPics/bits1.jpg)
Title: Re: Need a SAK IDed
Post by: Neil on July 28, 2008, 01:30:08 AM
Looks like my workbench, but more organised :)

Neil
Title: Re: Need a SAK IDed
Post by: AndyTiedye on July 28, 2008, 04:47:07 AM
I have been told by my betters that they are just to be treated as a source of parts ;)

That's what Scibeer used to make the sheepsfoot blade in that 84.

Title: Re: Need a SAK IDed
Post by: Mike, Lord of the Spammers! on July 28, 2008, 08:33:39 AM
I don't know about you, but I hate to see anything that cute get all broken up :cry:

Oh, you'd have loved it here earlier then. I smashed up 5 SAKs earlier as my "build your own swisschamp" gets up to speed.

(http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e10/DaveK-ToolPics/bits1.jpg)
:cry: :cry:
Title: Re: Need a SAK IDed
Post by: Hoghead on July 29, 2008, 02:44:58 AM
I don't know about you, but I hate to see anything that cute get all broken up :cry:

Oh, you'd have loved it here earlier then. I smashed up 5 SAKs earlier as my "build your own swisschamp" gets up to speed.

(http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e10/DaveK-ToolPics/bits1.jpg)
:cry: :cry:

Care for some company?   :cry: :cry: :cry:
Title: Re: Need a SAK IDed
Post by: Mike, Lord of the Spammers! on July 29, 2008, 10:33:24 AM
I don't know about you, but I hate to see anything that cute get all broken up :cry:

Oh, you'd have loved it here earlier then. I smashed up 5 SAKs earlier as my "build your own swisschamp" gets up to speed.

(http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e10/DaveK-ToolPics/bits1.jpg)
:cry: :cry:

Care for some company?   :cry: :cry: :cry:
It's horrible isn't it :o :D