Multitool.org Forum

Tool Talk => Leatherman Tools => Topic started by: babola on October 21, 2014, 12:19:22 PM

Title: LM ReCharge with a twist
Post by: babola on October 21, 2014, 12:19:22 PM
Finally got around to finish my 'Oxy-ReCharge' project today.  :ahhh

Since for me the MTs need to not only work well but must also look good (Zoidberg, get that smirk off your face! ;)) I sometimes put a little too much emphasis on the appearance, but can't help it, sorry  8) 

So I decided to oxidize the Ti scales to force that well known darker shade of Titanium that normally takes years to develop by a normal oxidation process, plus few extra details you don't see everyday done on an MT.

Mods:

- Swapped stock Charge pliers with the Rebar pliers with replaceable wire cutters.

- Awl also from Rebar - this one wasn't a simple drop in as it required a little bit of 'meat' taken off the top arch closer to the tip so that the pliers would close properly inside the handle. 

- Oxidized Ti scales; although not that visible from the photos, these are now 2-3 shades of gray darker than the original Ti scales. I'll see if I can borrow a standard Charge TTi from a colleague of mine sometime next week for comparison photo.

- Blued pivot screws; I originally wanted to acid etch these but like the blued finish better this time as it's near perfect fit with the Ti scales, almost identical. You wouldn't tell the scales and screws are made from a two very different materials.

- Flattened the dome on screws. While I like button top screws very much, I found a flattened top being in sync with the flat edges of the Ti scales. You may like this or not, but I believe LM should have included slightly flatter screws on a factory standard Charge.

Anyway, that's about it and I'm really stoked how it all came out in the end.  :salute:

(https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3934/15590773305_50d0132ec2_o_d.jpg)
(https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5607/14970030444_c31266c703_k_d.jpg)
(https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3937/15404770387_91446ec1b6_o_d.jpg)
Title: Re: LM ReCharge with a twist
Post by: ducttapetech on October 21, 2014, 12:23:29 PM
Wow!! That looks good!

Nate

Title: Re: LM ReCharge with a twist
Post by: bmot on October 21, 2014, 12:26:15 PM
 :drool: :drool: :drool:


Besides that, I do think you need to somehow make the clip more matching, too  :pok:
Title: Re: LM ReCharge with a twist
Post by: babola on October 21, 2014, 12:32:00 PM
:drool: :drool: :drool:


Besides that, I do think you need to somehow make the clip more matching, too  :pok:

Thanks Nate and bmot, yeah I agree...the clip darkening is certainly something on my radar. Unfortunately the area of the clip is a little too large for an even blueing effect (I use a small hand torch), so will have to acid etch it with some ferric chloride which I have inciming sometime next week. Stay tuned for more... :)
Title: Re: LM ReCharge with a twist
Post by: Lichtbote on October 21, 2014, 12:32:30 PM
Really nice looking.  :tu:
Title: Re: LM ReCharge with a twist
Post by: zoidberg on October 21, 2014, 12:45:39 PM
Very nice mate.  :salute:
Title: Re: LM ReCharge with a twist
Post by: babola on October 21, 2014, 01:03:12 PM
Very nice mate.  :salute:

Thanks for your help with those fiddly Rebar screws  :tu:
Title: Re: LM ReCharge with a twist
Post by: Dexter on October 21, 2014, 01:26:43 PM
Looks great!
Title: Re: LM ReCharge with a twist
Post by: hiraethus on October 21, 2014, 01:42:25 PM
Very good finish you've got there, looks like a factory model. :tu:
Title: Re: LM ReCharge with a twist
Post by: Toolslinger on October 21, 2014, 03:25:29 PM
Very nice :tu:.

How'd you flatten the screws? I presume you ground some material off the dome?
Title: Re: LM ReCharge with a twist
Post by: JAfromMn on October 21, 2014, 03:34:01 PM
 :drool:  :drool:  :drool:  :drool: 
Title: Re: LM ReCharge with a twist
Post by: Aloha on October 21, 2014, 04:15:25 PM
That sure is a terrific color and I'm sure in person its even better looking.  Great job  :tu:
Title: Re: LM ReCharge with a twist
Post by: Metropolicity on October 21, 2014, 04:40:44 PM
Super!!!
Title: Re: LM ReCharge with a twist
Post by: Kampfer on October 21, 2014, 05:18:31 PM
 :gimme:
Title: Re: LM ReCharge with a twist
Post by: Breezy12 on October 21, 2014, 06:23:02 PM
excellent work! :cheers:
Title: Re: LM ReCharge with a twist
Post by: enki_ck on October 21, 2014, 07:29:35 PM
Now that's more like it. :2tu:

Excellent job. :hatsoff:
Title: Re: LM ReCharge with a twist
Post by: babola on October 21, 2014, 08:06:31 PM
Thanks guys, I thought about doing similar to my Wave too but I'm broke at the moment with both of my kids birthdays next month and Christmas around the corner, so will have to wait better days  :P

How'd you flatten the screws? I presume you ground some material off the dome?

You can put them in a vice and file off the tops, or hold them in a pliers and run them upside down over a sand paper you placed on a flat surface. I do normally do the latter. Start with 400 grit and go down to 800 if you like the brushed top finish, or end up with 2000-4000 for the more polished look.

Whatever you chose make sure the screw is held 'perfectly' up right and that there's no wiggle as you'll end up with rounded top instead of flat.  :)


Title: Re: LM ReCharge with a twist
Post by: pietervn on October 22, 2014, 09:39:44 AM
G'Day,

That looks REALLY good. I'm a big fan of the Ti Charge, and darkening the scales looks fantastic. Would you mind sharing how you did it?

I have heated a set of scales for the rainbow effect, but I think this looks very nice, almost gunmetal gray. Never thought about the screws, I might give them a bit of heat...  :D

Well done,

Pete
Title: Re: LM ReCharge with a twist
Post by: babola on October 22, 2014, 09:56:56 AM
G'Day,

That looks REALLY good. I'm a big fan of the Ti Charge, and darkening the scales looks fantastic. Would you mind sharing how you did it?

I have heated a set of scales for the rainbow effect, but I think this looks very nice, almost gunmetal gray. Never thought about the screws, I might give them a bit of heat...  :D

Well done,

Pete


Thanks mate...not hard, oxidized them for about 15mins. Will drop you a PM. Cheers.
Title: Re: LM ReCharge with a twist
Post by: Mr Biriyani on October 22, 2014, 02:04:50 PM
Very,very, very beautiful ! :drool:
Title: Re: LM ReCharge with a twist
Post by: DazMechanical on October 24, 2014, 02:12:28 PM
Looks great babola!  :tu:
Title: Re: LM ReCharge with a twist
Post by: MARIOS7319 on October 24, 2014, 10:57:56 PM
Very nice !
If you didn't told us this mod and i saw the photos elsewhere, i will probably thinking that this Charge was a special version.

I really like when i see people with imagination, to be able to make the thoughts into reality.

If someday you decide to sell it, let me know. ;)
Title: Re: LM ReCharge with a twist
Post by: babola on October 25, 2014, 12:56:22 AM
Thanks for your kind words...I think I'll keep this one for a while :)
Title: Re: LM ReCharge with a twist
Post by: babola on November 01, 2014, 12:17:17 PM
For comparison purposes I borrowed my colleague's original un-touched Charge TTi.
The difference in gray color of the scales is definitely there and is even more evident in real life.


(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7522/15494104538_069a8f5ae6_o_d.jpg)
(https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5604/15059553294_0b78e05f85_o_d.jpg)
Title: Re: LM ReCharge with a twist
Post by: zoidberg on November 01, 2014, 12:22:05 PM
I know which one I want more.  :D
Title: Re: LM ReCharge with a twist
Post by: Breezy12 on November 01, 2014, 07:31:12 PM
great comparison pics! :tu: and I really like the way your oxidized scales turned out... :drool:
Title: Re: LM ReCharge with a twist
Post by: babola on November 01, 2014, 08:57:36 PM
great comparison pics! :tu: and I really like the way your oxidized scales turned out... :drool:

Thanks man, your mods definitely add to my inspiration. Thinking about next one already.  :multi:

I happened to have a spare Wave...hmmm  8)
Title: Re: LM ReCharge with a twist
Post by: Breezy12 on November 01, 2014, 11:49:20 PM
great comparison pics! :tu: and I really like the way your oxidized scales turned out... :drool:

Thanks man, your mods definitely add to my inspiration. Thinking about next one already.  :multi:

I happened to have a spare Wave...hmmm  8)

thanks for the kind words. :cheers: but I can't be held responsible for you catching the modding fever! ;)

you know it's bad when you look for good deals on tools that you already have just so you can use them in mods. :facepalm:
Title: Re: LM ReCharge with a twist
Post by: babola on November 02, 2014, 12:08:03 AM

thanks for the kind words. :cheers: but I can't be held responsible for you catching the modding fever! ;)

you know it's bad when you look for good deals on tools that you already have just so you can use them in mods. :facepalm:

Oh yes, one can never own too many Rebars, for example  :whistle:
Title: Re: LM ReCharge with a twist
Post by: Outback in Idaho on November 02, 2014, 09:00:58 AM
  Wow, impressive. Could go for that one too.

  My TTi has been used and abused, and the awl I had on doesn't look half as good as yours does. Don't know why Leatherman hasn't woken up and smelled the coffee yet. Charge owners want the awl too.



  Was so not impressed with Dave Canterbury's version, as he put the awl in the middle instead of the outside. He obviously did not do his homework or looked here in the forums. And here leatherman says they don't mod for anyone, ha!
Title: Re: LM ReCharge with a twist
Post by: kkokkolis on November 02, 2014, 09:56:42 AM
They should choose the Surge arrangement for the next generation of Wave/Charge. Outside beefy scissors, blade holder for T shank saws and an awl will complete that excellent series of tools. I don't mind the replaceable wire cutters but they count too for a lot of people. A new Charge TTi like this would be probably the best multitool in the world.
Title: Re: LM ReCharge with a twist
Post by: babola on November 02, 2014, 11:02:07 AM
They should choose the Surge arrangement for the next generation of Wave/Charge.

Yeah, while very logical something tells me they won't do that any time soon.  ::)

LM however did something similar with the ST300 and the Rebar.  :think:

Title: Re: LM ReCharge with a twist
Post by: babola on January 15, 2015, 09:25:58 AM
:drool: :drool: :drool:


Besides that, I do think you need to somehow make the clip more matching, too  :pok:

Done!  :)

(http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b241/babola/OxyReChargeClip1_zpsb31a5c7b.jpg)

Added another clip on my Acid Wave, too:
(http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b241/babola/OxyReChargeClip2_zpsa3a2740f.jpg)
Title: Re: LM ReCharge with a twist
Post by: Psycopyro on February 22, 2016, 09:22:37 PM
Nice one, with superb finish!

What is the method for oxidizing? By heating or something like that?
Title: Re: LM ReCharge with a twist
Post by: stolnme1 on February 23, 2016, 03:44:48 AM
that's bad a$$
Title: Re: LM ReCharge with a twist
Post by: babola on February 24, 2016, 12:09:16 AM
Nice one, with superb finish!

What is the method for oxidizing? By heating or something like that?

OXYAction, Napisan etc laundry whitening/brightening products you can get for few $$ in supermarkets.

Simple and cheap, but very effective.
Title: Re: LM ReCharge with a twist
Post by: babola on February 24, 2016, 12:09:36 AM
that's bad a$$

Thanks man.
Title: Re: LM ReCharge with a twist
Post by: danilo on February 24, 2016, 12:21:46 AM
Nice one, with superb finish!

What is the method for oxidizing? By heating or something like that?

OXYAction, Napisan etc laundry whitening/brightening products you can get for few $$ in supermarkets.

Simple and cheap, but very effective.
uh  that's beautiful, do you have a link to a tutorial at hand?

thanks!
Title: Re: LM ReCharge with a twist
Post by: titohendrata on June 20, 2016, 11:29:49 AM
Finally got around to finish my 'Oxy-ReCharge' project today.  :ahhh

Since for me the MTs need to not only work well but must also look good (Zoidberg, get that smirk off your face! ;)) I sometimes put a little too much emphasis on the appearance, but can't help it, sorry  8) 

So I decided to oxidize the Ti scales to force that well known darker shade of Titanium that normally takes years to develop by a normal oxidation process, plus few extra details you don't see everyday done on an MT.

Mods:

- Swapped stock Charge pliers with the Rebar pliers with replaceable wire cutters.

- Awl also from Rebar - this one wasn't a simple drop in as it required a little bit of 'meat' taken off the top arch closer to the tip so that the pliers would close properly inside the handle. 

- Oxidized Ti scales; although not that visible from the photos, these are now 2-3 shades of gray darker than the original Ti scales. I'll see if I can borrow a standard Charge TTi from a colleague of mine sometime next week for comparison photo.

- Blued pivot screws; I originally wanted to acid etch these but like the blued finish better this time as it's near perfect fit with the Ti scales, almost identical. You wouldn't tell the scales and screws are made from a two very different materials.

- Flattened the dome on screws. While I like button top screws very much, I found a flattened top being in sync with the flat edges of the Ti scales. You may like this or not, but I believe LM should have included slightly flatter screws on a factory standard Charge.

Anyway, that's about it and I'm really stoked how it all came out in the end.  :salute:

(https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3934/15590773305_50d0132ec2_o_d.jpg)
(https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5607/14970030444_c31266c703_k_d.jpg)
(https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3937/15404770387_91446ec1b6_o_d.jpg)
wow! amazing! ... very good works ...
can you please tell me how you darken the titanium?
Title: Re: LM ReCharge with a twist
Post by: titohendrata on June 20, 2016, 11:34:56 AM
G'Day,

That looks REALLY good. I'm a big fan of the Ti Charge, and darkening the scales looks fantastic. Would you mind sharing how you did it?

I have heated a set of scales for the rainbow effect, but I think this looks very nice, almost gunmetal gray. Never thought about the screws, I might give them a bit of heat...  :D

Well done,

Pete


Thanks mate...not hard, oxidized them for about 15mins. Will drop you a PM. Cheers.

PM me too, please  :cheers: :cheers: :cheers:
Title: Re: LM ReCharge with a twist
Post by: zoidberg on June 20, 2016, 11:50:41 AM
Finally got around to finish my 'Oxy-ReCharge' project today.  :ahhh

Since for me the MTs need to not only work well but must also look good (Zoidberg, get that smirk off your face! ;)) I sometimes put a little too much emphasis on the appearance, but can't help it, sorry  8) 

So I decided to oxidize the Ti scales to force that well known darker shade of Titanium that normally takes years to develop by a normal oxidation process, plus few extra details you don't see everyday done on an MT.

Mods:

- Swapped stock Charge pliers with the Rebar pliers with replaceable wire cutters.

- Awl also from Rebar - this one wasn't a simple drop in as it required a little bit of 'meat' taken off the top arch closer to the tip so that the pliers would close properly inside the handle. 

- Oxidized Ti scales; although not that visible from the photos, these are now 2-3 shades of gray darker than the original Ti scales. I'll see if I can borrow a standard Charge TTi from a colleague of mine sometime next week for comparison photo.

- Blued pivot screws; I originally wanted to acid etch these but like the blued finish better this time as it's near perfect fit with the Ti scales, almost identical. You wouldn't tell the scales and screws are made from a two very different materials.

- Flattened the dome on screws. While I like button top screws very much, I found a flattened top being in sync with the flat edges of the Ti scales. You may like this or not, but I believe LM should have included slightly flatter screws on a factory standard Charge.

Anyway, that's about it and I'm really stoked how it all came out in the end.  :salute:

(https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3934/15590773305_50d0132ec2_o_d.jpg)
(https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5607/14970030444_c31266c703_k_d.jpg)
(https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3937/15404770387_91446ec1b6_o_d.jpg)
wow! amazing! ... very good works ...
can you please tell me how you darken the titanium?

Babola's Acid Wave project (http://forum.multitool.org/index.php/topic,56530.0.html)
Title: Re: LM ReCharge with a twist
Post by: babola on June 20, 2016, 12:07:38 PM
To darken Titanium, it has to oxidize. I use simple and cheap method with Napisan, OxyClean or any other oxidizing stain remover you can find in your local supermarket.

Warm up the water in a small container, add powder (approx 1 Tbsp per cup of hot water), agitate slowly and wait. Remove the Ti bits from liquid and wash under the tap. Repeat as required to reach desired darkness.

Nothing to it, really.
Title: Re: LM ReCharge with a twist
Post by: babola on June 20, 2016, 12:10:18 PM

Babola's Acid Wave project (http://forum.multitool.org/index.php/topic,56530.0.html)

That method (acid etching using ferric chloride) works on steel, copper etc but doesn't on Ti, unfortunately.
Ti darkens thru oxidation.   :)
Title: Re: LM ReCharge with a twist
Post by: zoidberg on June 20, 2016, 12:22:43 PM

Babola's Acid Wave project (http://forum.multitool.org/index.php/topic,56530.0.html)

That method (acid etching using ferric chloride) works on steel, copper etc but doesn't on Ti, unfortunately.
Ti darkens thru oxidation.   :)

Yeah I completely misread and misinterpreted this.   :facepalm:   :facepalm:   Happens.   :kirky:

Secondly, after I posted my Oxy-ReCharge mod over at EDCF couple of members over there asked me if I could post my next mod in steps, kind of tutorial style.
Title: Re: LM ReCharge with a twist
Post by: NKlamerus on June 20, 2016, 02:15:23 PM
Babola is quite the Inspiration, his acid wave thread convinced me to create my Blue Collar Surge. And now my Charge TTi is in peices waiting for oxidation and new parts.......

Instead of liquid or electrical oxidation I may really slow it down with some direct heat.
Title: Re: LM ReCharge with a twist
Post by: G-Dizzle on June 20, 2016, 03:42:28 PM
Very nice!!


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Title: Re: LM ReCharge with a twist
Post by: titohendrata on June 20, 2016, 08:42:35 PM
To darken Titanium, it has to oxidize. I use simple and cheap method with Napisan, OxyClean or any other oxidizing stain remover you can find in your local supermarket.

Warm up the water in a small container, add powder (approx 1 Tbsp per cup of hot water), agitate slowly and wait. Remove the Ti bits from liquid and wash under the tap. Repeat as required to reach desired darkness.

Nothing to it, really.

Babola's Acid Wave project (http://forum.multitool.org/index.php/topic,56530.0.html)

That method (acid etching using ferric chloride) works on steel, copper etc but doesn't on Ti, unfortunately.
Ti darkens thru oxidation.   :)
thank you, very appreciate it  :salute: ... I will do looking for stain removal available here and try :)