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Title: Reevaluating my off day carry
Post by: Aloha on March 10, 2017, 06:10:34 PM
I always enjoy reading why others carry what they carry.  I especially love seeing all the bag stuffed with awesome tools and other items.  I love the minimalist as well however I've never seen myself as a minimalist.  I do enjoy when I see someone carry a Classic and button light. 

My off day carry varies and has varied in terms of what I carry.  I've carried a MT, light, and SAK mostly but each item changes for no specific reason.  I have also added in a folder or a fixed blade from time to time.  I've been experimenting with my off day carry just because.   

One set up in particular that I really like is

LM Squirt P4, Cadet2, Fenix LDO2.  My mind tells me I'm missing scissors.  Funny how this works huh?  Do I use scissors that much?  Couldn't I just get by without them?  I'm trying not to obsess to much.   

Another carry I've played around with is

LM Squirt P4, Executive,  Zebralight.  The ZL is pretty easy to carry and has lots of options lumen wise so I really like that.   My Executive has a great pair of scissors and terrific blade.  The only thing "missing" is a can opener.  Sure I can add a P38 can opener but it just not to my liking.   I enjoy using my SAK can opener in the kitchen, call me odd. 

I've carried my Spirit as my only tool a few times and its been really nice.  The tool density is awesome and it carried great.  I pair it with any light I feel for that day.  I do have to say the scissors are not great IMO.  Acceptable but SAK scissors have me spoiled.

I've also carried my OG Wave only and its also a great tool.  It has lots of drivers which for an onoff day is a waste IMO.  I do really like outside opening tools.  Convenience for me is a good thing.   

I've my Charge TTi with pocket clip with no real complaints.  I am thinking over a few mod tho.  I would like OHO scissors and some other changes.  Not sure what just yet.  Its been great having this tool in pocket and gotta love S30V.

I've tried my PST and Juice but both have left me feeling, eh.  Juice is ok.  PST is also ok.  Ok is just not good enough when I have some other tools that go beyond ok.  I do like both but not enough to commit to either. 

Wenger.  I really like Wengers offerings.  The tool locking Wenger was a tool I carried a lot early on.  Missing are scissors.  The other Wenger is also nice but for off day carry I'd much prefer a file to a saw. 

I think I'll look at some other Wenger options.  I thought about a Compact and considered getting out my Sideclip. 

Mostly I'm just rambling.   

   
Title: Re: Reevaluating my off day carry
Post by: Poncho65 on March 10, 2017, 06:49:10 PM
Looks like some good carries Aloha :tu:

I think that the lightest I care to go on an off day is maybe an Executive paired with a :ahhh :ahhh :ahhh !!!MINI!!! :ahhh :ahhh :ahhh I still feel prepared for most things like this and  usually have a Shard with me as well for the odd chance that I need to tighten a Phillips screw :D

Good thread :tu: :like:
Title: Re: Reevaluating my off day carry
Post by: captain spaulding on March 10, 2017, 07:29:05 PM
Excellent thread and i will comment more later after work.  One thing I want to mention is the scissors.  I always have to hand scissors on me. When you have a lot of facIal hair there is constant stray hairs that need trimming.
Title: Re: Reevaluating my off day carry
Post by: sir_mike on March 10, 2017, 07:40:33 PM
It is always good to re-evaluate your EDC variations! 

For me, I can live without the scissors as a blade with do the same thing!  I carried a small Tinker for over 25 years so I don't dwell on the scissors much.  If the sak has them then that is fine but for example, if the Explorer didn't have scissors I would be fine with it cause I mainly choose it for the other tools like the mag lens, inline philips, and corkscrew to hold mini driver.

I have to say I have always been more of a minimalist in the sense that I just don't carry much at all.  I have the small flashlight with my house key on it, then the sak in my pocket or on the suspension clip depending on which sak. I do try a couple of different sak's out to see what I like and think I may like to carry without too much bulk.  Like yesterday and today instead of carrying an Explorer or Swisschamp, I put the Pioneer X in my pocket but added a Classic to my hip/watch pocket where I keep my flashlight and house key so I still had the tweezers and toothpick if needed.  Truth be told, I probably could get by on just the Classic as my EDC but what if.....right?

Since I am in the urban/city environment 99.9% of the time what I carry above is more than enough.  The only time I will carry a MT or add a MT to my EDC is when I am out hiking/biking around and depending on where I am going hiking/biking I may add either a fixed blade or dedicated folder but that is rare. 

I will be following this thread just to see how your EDC evolves so keep us posted.  :)
Title: Re: Reevaluating my off day carry
Post by: Aloha on March 10, 2017, 08:03:36 PM
The Explorer Plus is hard to argue with on my end.  Why do I then?  Why not  :D. 

I've booted my Manager off my keys then after a week put it right back on.  Its hard to argue about the Manager for me.  Can I get by with a Manager?  No. 

I can get by with an 84mm tho.  Scissors, damn those ever loving Vic scissors.  I just love them and they are a slim enough layer for me.  I have a Golfer but it needs work.  I don't have experience with the combo tool. 

I used to reason that carrying my Swisschamp was minimal.  I mean its ONE item so............. :whistle:  Then I rediscovered the Champion.  I wouldn't miss the fish tickler so I'm back to my Explorer Plus. 

I really enjoy carrying my Cadet2.  Its such a wonderful tool in almost every way.  I thought about a mod of adding the scissors from my Golfer  :think:. 

Did I say I'm trying not to over analyze this?  :facepalm: 
Title: Re: Reevaluating my off day carry
Post by: Mechanickal on March 10, 2017, 08:23:30 PM
I'm carrying a leather shoulder bag during off time.
Besides a FAK, bandana, lighter, solar glasses (only in summer) some mints, a jewelers lens, an emergency whistle, a pen, in ear headphones, earplugs, mini phone charging cable, keys and wallet it ALWAYS contains my Led Lenser F1R, and Swisstool X.

Sometimes when I know I'll be leaving the bag in the car/in the neighborhood, I take my Spirit S, Swisschamp or Charge AL with me on person.
Title: Re: Reevaluating my off day carry
Post by: Aloha on March 10, 2017, 08:31:37 PM
I'm a hands free kinda guy.  I don't mind belt carry at all.  When I do carry a MT its in a sheath on my belt.  Like I said I have tried pocket clip carry of my TTi and its not bad. 

Here's the thing,  when I carry my LM tools with bit drivers I feel I also MUST carry a bit card.  I also feel like why not then carry the extender.  I cannot reason not to. 

When I carry my Spirit however its fine as is.  The difference really is OHO.  Need? NO.  Why not I ask?  Why the heck no have OHO when I can?  Great tool but.......

Ok I admit I'm analyzing.

 :whistle:
Title: Re: Reevaluating my off day carry
Post by: sir_mike on March 10, 2017, 10:24:40 PM
I'm a hands free kinda guy.  I don't mind belt carry at all.  When I do carry a MT its in a sheath on my belt.  Like I said I have tried pocket clip carry of my TTi and its not bad. 

Here's the thing,  when I carry my LM tools with bit drivers I feel I also MUST carry a bit card.  I also feel like why not then carry the extender.  I cannot reason not to. 

When I carry my Spirit however its fine as is.  The difference really is OHO.  Need? NO.  Why not I ask?  Why the heck no have OHO when I can?  Great tool but.......

Ok I admit I'm analyzing.

 :whistle:

I too like the hands free idea.  When we go hiking/biking of course we have a backpack but not a huge or or one weighted down with alot of stuff.  Sometimes I put the MT on my belt and sometimes I carry it in the backpack.  Part of that depends on what style shorts or pants I am wearing and if I have a belt on!

Regarding the OHO, It is kinda like the scissors thing to me, I don't or won't die if I don't have them but I do prefer the OHO to not having it as I do think it is more beneficial or at least can be.  That said, I don't own any Vic MT's but someday would like to try the Spirit X again.  I will say that I wish Vic made an OHO Spirit!  Time for a new design?  Could you imagine something like the Wave but with Vic's build and quality?  :tu:

Analyzing, well maybe a little!  LOL

Title: Re: Reevaluating my off day carry
Post by: Aloha on March 11, 2017, 12:58:57 AM
What I ended up carrying today.
Title: Re: Reevaluating my off day carry
Post by: smiller43147 on March 11, 2017, 02:25:15 AM
Some nice combos, and it appears you have a fair number of tools to work with.  If you like scissors (like me) I suggest the Squirt and a Vic Compact.  A lot of different tools, not a lot of duplication.
Title: Re: Reevaluating my off day carry
Post by: sir_mike on March 11, 2017, 03:06:55 AM
Have you tried a Pioneer X yet?  It's got scissors!  :)
Title: Re: Reevaluating my off day carry
Post by: Mike 56 on March 11, 2017, 03:20:06 AM
I'm retired so I guess for every day is a day off for me. I have to carry scissors I have bad fingernails which is a very bad thing to have when you collect pocket knives and multitools. So I always carry at least one 58mm SAK to trim broken nails and a small pry bar to open SAKs and multitools because I have no nails. Then I have heavy carry for the last month it has been a Centerdrive and three-layer or more SAK on a suspension clip when I jeans. My light carry is a Juice or PST in clip on pouch and a small SAK when I wear basketball shorts or sweat pants.

The Explorer Plus is hard to argue with on my end.  Why do I then?  Why not  :D. 

I've booted my Manager off my keys then after a week put it right back on.  Its hard to argue about the Manager for me.  Can I get by with a Manager?  No. 

I can get by with an 84mm tho.  Scissors, damn those ever loving Vic scissors.  I just love them and they are a slim enough layer for me.  I have a Golfer but it needs work.  I don't have experience with the combo tool. 

I used to reason that carrying my Swisschamp was minimal.  I mean its ONE item so............. :whistle:  Then I rediscovered the Champion.  I wouldn't miss the fish tickler so I'm back to my Explorer Plus. 

I really enjoy carrying my Cadet2.  Its such a wonderful tool in almost every way.  I thought about a mod of adding the scissors from my Golfer  :think:. 

Did I say I'm trying not to over analyze this?  :facepalm: 

All I carried for a long time was a waiter the combo tool worked really well for me. The corner of a combo does a pretty good job on Phillips screws it has just the right angle on it and of course it works well on sloted screws.

Mike
Title: Re: Reevaluating my off day carry
Post by: The Lone Wanderer on March 11, 2017, 04:52:18 AM
I've gone through the same thing before and I'm pleased with what I have decided on. Spirit X on my belt, Wenger SI, Coast flashlight and a Bic lighter. I don't smoke but you never know when you need a lighter.
Title: Re: Reevaluating my off day carry
Post by: ToolJoe on March 11, 2017, 05:35:04 AM
The Spirit has become my on and off day carry. I suppose it's alright 😁.
Title: Re: Reevaluating my off day carry
Post by: Aloha on March 11, 2017, 07:46:26 AM
Some nice combos, and it appears you have a fair number of tools to work with.  If you like scissors (like me) I suggest the Squirt and a Vic Compact.  A lot of different tools, not a lot of duplication.

I'll need to get a Compact.  I like the idea of this combo very much.   :tu:  I am a huge fan of scissors especially Vic scissors. 
Title: Re: Reevaluating my off day carry
Post by: Aloha on March 11, 2017, 07:46:54 AM
Have you tried a Pioneer X yet?  It's got scissors!  :)

I need to pick one up eventually. 
Title: Re: Reevaluating my off day carry
Post by: Aloha on March 11, 2017, 07:51:38 AM
I'm retired so I guess for every day is a day off for me. I have to carry scissors I have bad fingernails which is a very bad thing to have when you collect pocket knives and multitools. So I always carry at least one 58mm SAK to trim broken nails and a small pry bar to open SAKs and multitools because I have no nails. Then I have heavy carry for the last month it has been a Centerdrive and three-layer or more SAK on a suspension clip when I jeans. My light carry is a Juice or PST in clip on pouch and a small SAK when I wear basketball shorts or sweat pants.

The Explorer Plus is hard to argue with on my end.  Why do I then?  Why not  :D. 

I've booted my Manager off my keys then after a week put it right back on.  Its hard to argue about the Manager for me.  Can I get by with a Manager?  No. 

I can get by with an 84mm tho.  Scissors, damn those ever loving Vic scissors.  I just love them and they are a slim enough layer for me.  I have a Golfer but it needs work.  I don't have experience with the combo tool. 

I used to reason that carrying my Swisschamp was minimal.  I mean its ONE item so............. :whistle:  Then I rediscovered the Champion.  I wouldn't miss the fish tickler so I'm back to my Explorer Plus. 

I really enjoy carrying my Cadet2.  Its such a wonderful tool in almost every way.  I thought about a mod of adding the scissors from my Golfer  :think:. 

Did I say I'm trying not to over analyze this?  :facepalm: 

All I carried for a long time was a waiter the combo tool worked really well for me. The corner of a combo does a pretty good job on Phillips screws it has just the right angle on it and of course it works well on sloted screws.

Mike

Thank you for your response.  I haven't had any experience with the combo tool but it sure looks good on paper. 
Title: Re: Reevaluating my off day carry
Post by: Aloha on March 11, 2017, 07:55:56 AM
I've gone through the same thing before and I'm pleased with what I have decided on. Spirit X on my belt, Wenger SI, Coast flashlight and a Bic lighter. I don't smoke but you never know when you need a lighter.

The Spirit is a great tool.  I was a bigger fan of the Swisstool but I decided to give the Spirit another chance and I'm glad I did.  There is not much that one cant do with the Spirit.  That said, I do like the one hand access to some tools.  I've had discussions before regarding OHO and all I can say is its my preference.  Its not a deal breaker however.  The SI is one sweet tool as well.  I've carried mine on and off several times. 
Title: Re: Reevaluating my off day carry
Post by: ThePeacent on March 11, 2017, 11:43:17 AM
Similar to many folks here, I need scissors and pliers on a daily basis. Won't go anywhere without them, even if they're small (Squirt + 58mm SAK is the minimal size to fill my needs)

(http://i1314.photobucket.com/albums/t562/ThePeacent/CAM02875_zpswaongs2s.jpg)
On work days, always a heavy duty or bigger pliers based tool, as the tasks tend to be much more demanding and tough. Spirit, SOG blacktip, MP600...if I'm carrying the Spirit I can be happy with just a 58mm on my keychain or a thin SAK as a secondary tool, as the Spirit really covers almost everything you can need.


(http://i1314.photobucket.com/albums/t562/ThePeacent/Mobile%20Uploads/2016-12/20161223_220149_zpsnaoz3epa.jpg)
If I carry the SOG (no wood saw), the Gerber (no big scissors), or the Wave (no metal saw) for instance, then a larger SAK has to compliment it adding the tools or implements/functions that are missing.

(http://i1314.photobucket.com/albums/t562/ThePeacent/CAM05515_zpsojyxyx6p.jpg)
(http://i1314.photobucket.com/albums/t562/ThePeacent/CAM06068_zpswqppyb8c.jpg)
Title: Re: Reevaluating my off day carry
Post by: smiller43147 on March 11, 2017, 11:02:25 PM
I'm retired so I guess for every day is a day off for me. I have to carry scissors I have bad fingernails which is a very bad thing to have when you collect pocket knives and multitools. So I always carry at least one 58mm SAK to trim broken nails and a small pry bar to open SAKs and multitools because I have no nails. Then I have heavy carry for the last month it has been a Centerdrive and three-layer or more SAK on a suspension clip when I jeans. My light carry is a Juice or PST in clip on pouch and a small SAK when I wear basketball shorts or sweat pants.

The Explorer Plus is hard to argue with on my end.  Why do I then?  Why not  :D. 

I've booted my Manager off my keys then after a week put it right back on.  Its hard to argue about the Manager for me.  Can I get by with a Manager?  No. 

I can get by with an 84mm tho.  Scissors, damn those ever loving Vic scissors.  I just love them and they are a slim enough layer for me.  I have a Golfer but it needs work.  I don't have experience with the combo tool. 

I used to reason that carrying my Swisschamp was minimal.  I mean its ONE item so............. :whistle:  Then I rediscovered the Champion.  I wouldn't miss the fish tickler so I'm back to my Explorer Plus. 

I really enjoy carrying my Cadet2.  Its such a wonderful tool in almost every way.  I thought about a mod of adding the scissors from my Golfer  :think:. 

Did I say I'm trying not to over analyze this?  :facepalm: 

All I carried for a long time was a waiter the combo tool worked really well for me. The corner of a combo does a pretty good job on Phillips screws it has just the right angle on it and of course it works well on sloted screws.

Mike

Thank you for your response.  I haven't had any experience with the combo tool but it sure looks good on paper.

That's the same tool on the Compact.
Title: Re: Reevaluating my off day carry
Post by: Aloha on March 14, 2017, 06:38:57 PM
So I tried carrying my Golfer and it was nice which I paired with my Squirt.  Nice over all carry but at the end of the day I was really thinking I'll need to try a Compact.  On Sunday I carried my Swisschamp.  I know its not generally regarded as minimal however I'll argue it is.  I think however my Champion just makes more sense, I dont exactly know why  :think:

I also tried my 84mm Tinker but its just not doing it for me. 

So off to try to find a decent Compact to pair with my Squirt. 
Title: Re: Reevaluating my off day carry
Post by: sir_mike on March 14, 2017, 07:45:27 PM
So I tried carrying my Golfer and it was nice which I paired with my Squirt.  Nice over all carry but at the end of the day I was really thinking I'll need to try a Compact.  On Sunday I carried my Swisschamp.  I know its not generally regarded as minimal however I'll argue it is.  I think however my Champion just makes more sense, I dont exactly know why  :think:

I also tried my 84mm Tinker but its just not doing it for me. 

So off to try to find a decent Compact to pair with my Squirt.

I have the Golfer and it is the same as the Compact except for mine that doesn't have the hook so I am curious to why you would want or need a Compact over the Golfer?

As far as the Swisschamp vs the Champion, not much difference there except for the plier's (aka super tweezers) which will save you a little bit of weight and about 1/4 inch width wise so that would be a preference thing.  With or without plier's?  :)
Title: Re: Reevaluating my off day carry
Post by: Aloha on March 14, 2017, 08:58:20 PM
Compact over Golfer mostly because the plus scales and just because.  As I mentioned mostly just to try something I haven't.   

Champion over Swisschamp also no real reason other than I do like my Squirt more for pliers than my super tweezer pliers of my SC. 

Fine tuning my off day carry is more where I am headed than anything. 

Botton line I can carry my Golfer and Squirt and be stoked.  I can also just carry my Swisschamp like I used to and be done. 

Where I see myself headed is no where particular just evaluating over the course of time.   
Title: Re: Reevaluating my off day carry
Post by: sir_mike on March 14, 2017, 09:47:56 PM
Compact over Golfer mostly because the plus scales and just because.  As I mentioned mostly just to try something I haven't.   

Champion over Swisschamp also no real reason other than I do like my Squirt more for pliers than my super tweezer pliers of my SC. 

Fine tuning my off day carry is more where I am headed than anything. 

Botton line I can carry my Golfer and Squirt and be stoked.  I can also just carry my Swisschamp like I used to and be done. 

Where I see myself headed is no where particular just evaluating over the course of time.   

You could add plus scales to the Golfer unless you have the 84mm one!  My Golfer is the 91mm so I am set there if I decide to change the scales!  :)

Never tried the Squirt plier's so I will take your word for it!  LOL 

There is no doubt that there really is alot of different sak's or combo's that can do what one needs or wants!  You know I like the Explorer Plus as my main and only EDC but I too have been experimenting lately and one good combo I like so far is the Pioneer X in my right front pocket (no suspension clip) and a Classic thrown into my watch pocket.

I am getting to the point where I don't want to use the suspension clip and here is why.  I was at a Casino awhile ago playing a game and a security guy comes up to me and says "sir can I see what that clip is in your pocket".  Of course I said it is just a clip and he said can I see it so I pulled it out only part way to show him it was only a clip and I know he was thinking it was a clip on a pocket knife but I pulled it out only far enough so the clip was off my pocket but didn't show my Swisschamp underneath.  He said people try to bring knives in here which is not allowed.  I told him I will tuck the clip in so it wont be noticed anymore.  He thanked me and went on his way! 

I guess it is things like this that make me rethink my carry!  Also another reason why I don't do belt pouches unless I am doing something like hiking/biking!  :)
 
Title: Re: Reevaluating my off day carry
Post by: Aloha on March 14, 2017, 10:19:39 PM
Yes my Golfer is the 84mm variety. 

The Explorer with Plus scales is a hard SAK to beat.  An 84mm version of this would be awesome.   

I don't mind carrying a fixed blade around I also want to always fly well under radar.  If I have a MT sheath on my it's always covered by my T-shirt or other shirt.  I don't mind carrying a folder however I really don't want a clip showing for no other reason than wanted more to stay under the radar.

I like the 84mm line and have a few. 

I have what I believe is the Recruit economy, Golfer, and Tinker. 

I don't mind the lack of back tools especially when paired with my Squirt but lack of T&T is kinda lame.     

 
Title: Re: Reevaluating my off day carry
Post by: sir_mike on March 15, 2017, 12:33:22 AM
Yes my Golfer is the 84mm variety. 

The Explorer with Plus scales is a hard SAK to beat.  An 84mm version of this would be awesome.   

I don't mind carrying a fixed blade around I also want to always fly well under radar.  If I have a MT sheath on my it's always covered by my T-shirt or other shirt.  I don't mind carrying a folder however I really don't want a clip showing for no other reason than wanted more to stay under the radar.

I like the 84mm line and have a few. 

I have what I believe is the Recruit economy, Golfer, and Tinker. 

I don't mind the lack of back tools especially when paired with my Squirt but lack of T&T is kinda lame.     

 

I totally agree with you on the Explorer Plus and the lack of the T&T is lame!   :tu:

That collection of 84mm's are nice!  I tend to stick with the 91mm so I have the plus scale ability and only one size to replace scales on.  Lazy I know!  :)

If you decide to try out an alox in the mix, I can loan you my Pioneer X to tryout for a while to see it will work for you!  Just let me know!
Title: Re: Reevaluating my off day carry
Post by: ironraven on March 15, 2017, 02:02:58 AM
Most days are light days.

REALLY light days, the ones were I never get past sweats, Skeletool or Vic Compact.
Title: Re: Reevaluating my off day carry
Post by: Aloha on March 17, 2017, 08:18:56 AM
I am trying out a couple more options.  I carried the 84mm Vic today and I have to say I was impressed.  The can opener worked like a charm on medium Phillips screws.  I added a small pry tool cause there really is never a reason to use a knife tip and the pry tool is pretty small as you can see. 

I dug out the Wenger to give it a try as I was really impressed with the Victorinox 84mm.
Title: Re: Reevaluating my off day carry
Post by: Aloha on March 20, 2017, 03:32:32 PM
Because I typically carried as SAK with inline phillips I've not had to use the can opener as one.  The other day I was carrying my 84mm Recruit and had a few screws to tighten.  I honestly paused wondering if turning them would damage the can opener sharpened part.  I know the tip is whats to be used however the screws were a bit larger and I wanted to see how it performed.  I'm happy to report it worked great.  I can see damage occurring if more torque was used.  I also realize I could have also tried the bottle openers corner just as well. 

I was thrilled is mostly my take away that the can opener, a tool I really like, was up to the task. 

I am gaining more and more respect for my little 84mm SAKs.

This has not been a "test" to see how little I can get away with.  Its been more about editing out all the "what ifs".  I know carrying a SAK is always better than not. 

The picture is what I carried all day yesterday .   
Title: Re: Reevaluating my off day carry
Post by: Aloha on March 22, 2017, 05:44:16 PM
Still carrying my 84s.  I'm finding no issues at all.  I'm not surprised however I am a little surprised how well I am enjoying them.  I mean I liked them a lot but the 91s seemed to offer more, "more" what exactly, I don't know.

Anyhow.  I am switching between my Tinker, Golfer, Recruit, Wenger Viking ( pictured above ).  I think its a Viking  :think:, I also pulled out a Bantoam which is surprisingly awesome to me. 

I am paring them with my Squirt P4.  I don't alway like to use the blade in place of scissors is kinda what I'm finding out.  Heres why,  I was sending a package off at the post office and needed to trim the label.  I would have had to place the label on the table then cut.  The problem is I didn't want to cut thru the label and onto the table.  Using scissors is easy peasy.   

First pic is work carry.
Second pic is off day.
Title: Re: Reevaluating my off day carry
Post by: Aloha on March 22, 2017, 05:53:59 PM
To add onto my last post.  I am finding having a little pry tool is important for me.  Yes I can use my 84s bottle opener but I rather not.  I don't mind carrying the little one I have pictured.  Its really not an issue nor hard to carry.  I also like my Squirt.  Its just enough tool for so many things.  I like having a file more so that a saw blade is also what I'm noticing.  I think its good enough for finger nails and other file uses. 

I do like Victorinox can openers.  Wenger can openers are good but the tip of the Vic ones add another tool.  On my Wenger the bottle opener is just a slight bit narrower at the tip vs my Vic bottle opener.  I guess I can use the Wenger bottle opener as I do my Vics can opener tip.  Ok I can but the Vics can opener does add another tool.  I also prefer to open cans with a forward motion. 

The reality is I can use my Squirt for phillips.  I can also use my mini pry tool as well.


I like the Golfer a lot.  I can do without the corkscrew.  Phillips would be nice instead.  Plus scales would be over the top wonderful. 
 

 
Title: Re: Reevaluating my off day carry
Post by: Aloha on March 24, 2017, 05:06:19 AM
Carried the Bantam today.  I finally got to try the combo tool on a can.  It wasn't the cleanest cut but bottom line is it works well.  I enjoyed carrying this SAK a lot today.  I can imagine the Alox is a joy as well. 

Title: Re: Reevaluating my off day carry
Post by: Kev D on March 24, 2017, 08:57:30 AM
I've been carrying my swisschamp outside of work. It's still a big tool really, but a lot less than I usually carry. I still feed kind of naked just carrying that, it's strange what you get used to.
Title: Re: Reevaluating my off day carry
Post by: Aloha on March 24, 2017, 02:50:20 PM
Over the years I've had 8 Swisschamps.  I have 2 now, one live on my hike pack in an SOS sheath and one I have on my nightstand.  In a strange way I feel carrying my SC is minimal.  I am very much a fan of the tool as well my Champion.  I began to carry it suspended from my Victorinox Belt Hanger and really like the way it carries like that.  I got a leather sheath for my Champion which rides nicely on my belt.  Both tools have everything I'd need or want and then some. 

Carrying my 84s along with my Squirt almost matches my toolset on my SC. 

Today I'll carry my Golfer. 
Title: Re: Reevaluating my off day carry
Post by: Gareth on March 24, 2017, 05:32:30 PM
I've been going very minimal recently and today especially with just a 84mm Golfer and a Style PS. I'll be honest and say that I feel a little light on screwdrivers and don't need the scissors on the PS but it's certainly easy to carry.
Title: Re: Reevaluating my off day carry
Post by: Aloha on March 24, 2017, 10:05:17 PM
Yes I agree when I carry my Golfer its feels driver light.  I was surprised how well I got along with my Recruit and phillips screws.  I haven't had the occasion to use the combo tool for any phillips.  I do like my 84mm Tinker a lot more that I thought I would.  My squirt is pretty good in covering where I feel light but having a dedicated Philips is something that just makes me feel good.  Spoiled by my Explorer.   
Title: Re: Reevaluating my off day carry
Post by: Gareth on March 24, 2017, 10:15:11 PM
Yes I agree when I carry my Golfer its feels driver light.  I was surprised how well I got along with my Recruit and phillips screws.  I haven't had the occasion to use the combo tool for any phillips.  I do like my 84mm Tinker a lot more that I thought I would.  My squirt is pretty good in covering where I feel light but having a dedicated Philips is something that just makes me feel good.  Spoiled by my Explorer.

If I liked the small LM scissors more I'd be tempted to carry my Vic Scientist with the Style PS or Squirt P4.  Perhaps I should give that a go anyway and see how I get along.
Title: Re: Reevaluating my off day carry
Post by: Aloha on March 24, 2017, 10:28:51 PM
Yes go for it.  This is exactly what I'm doing.  Trying stuff I never thought I'd like or actually feel covered carrying.  I'm not carrying anything as back up either.  I don't want back up cause if the tools I have aren't up to the task that fine.  It further helps me rationalize what I will carry. 
Title: Re: Reevaluating my off day carry
Post by: sir_mike on March 24, 2017, 10:46:04 PM
Aloha,

Based on you telling us that you carry the Champion and a Squirt so you had plier's (aka super tweezers) in place of the Swisschamp, I decided to give that a try but with a twist too.  I picked up a PS4 cause I didn't have one and I am actually gonna pair it with the Explorer Plus so I still get the plier's but dont have tools like the saw and fish scaler that I don't need on a daily basis.  I will also use the PS4 with the Champ Plus too some time!

Thx for posting that!   :tu:

Title: Re: Reevaluating my off day carry
Post by: The Lone Wanderer on March 25, 2017, 03:38:15 AM
I've started to carry only my 111mm Soldier and I've been just dandy. I may add a Manager or Minichamp on my keys just for kicks.
Title: Re: Reevaluating my off day carry
Post by: Aloha on March 25, 2017, 06:20:55 AM
Aloha,

Based on you telling us that you carry the Champion and a Squirt so you had plier's (aka super tweezers) in place of the Swisschamp, I decided to give that a try but with a twist too.  I picked up a PS4 cause I didn't have one and I am actually gonna pair it with the Explorer Plus so I still get the plier's but dont have tools like the saw and fish scaler that I don't need on a daily basis.  I will also use the PS4 with the Champ Plus too some time!

Thx for posting that!   :tu:

Squirt pliers are pretty good.  They also carry very easy and yet are pretty robust for such a small tool.  Love the color you have on yours. 
Title: Re: Reevaluating my off day carry
Post by: Aloha on March 25, 2017, 06:27:03 AM
I've started to carry only my 111mm Soldier and I've been just dandy. I may add a Manager or Minichamp on my keys just for kicks.

I carry a Manager on my keys which I haven't mentioned in this thread  :think:.  I see this tool as, well, hmm.........

So let me think about this for a sec.  My manager is a tool I've carried now for several years on my keys.  It has a pen which is clutch when I have needed one.  Blade and scissors do what I need them when pressed into service.  I guess I see my Manager as a "spare key" in a way.  I don't often need it but its there. 

I carried my 84mm Golfer.  What a treat it was today.  I packed up some stuff to send out and cutting tape and boxes was a breeze.  I'd love to see plus scales on this tool.  That would be very great. 

Title: Re: Reevaluating my off day carry
Post by: Gareth on March 25, 2017, 10:26:51 PM
Yes go for it.  This is exactly what I'm doing.  Trying stuff I never thought I'd like or actually feel covered carrying.  I'm not carrying anything as back up either.  I don't want back up cause if the tools I have aren't up to the task that fine.  It further helps me rationalize what I will carry.

Well, having found myself in need of a Phillips screwdriver this afternoon I've stuck the Scientist in my pocket with my PS4 on my keys.  In fairness the Style file/screwdriver just about coped but it was definitely lacking.
Title: Re: Reevaluating my off day carry
Post by: Aloha on March 25, 2017, 11:00:26 PM
Yes go for it.  This is exactly what I'm doing.  Trying stuff I never thought I'd like or actually feel covered carrying.  I'm not carrying anything as back up either.  I don't want back up cause if the tools I have aren't up to the task that fine.  It further helps me rationalize what I will carry.

Well, having found myself in need of a Phillips screwdriver this afternoon I've stuck the Scientist in my pocket with my PS4 on my keys.  In fairness the Style file/screwdriver just about coped but it was definitely lacking.

Well now you know without reservation not having a phillips isn't gonna work for you. 
Title: Re: Reevaluating my off day carry
Post by: styx on March 26, 2017, 03:24:30 PM
Weren't you a big fan of the serrated Native? A bit odd you're not including it
Title: Re: Reevaluating my off day carry
Post by: Aloha on March 26, 2017, 04:25:22 PM
Huge fan of both SE Native and SE Delica.  I have an on and off relationship with folders.  I do enjoy carrying one for sure but enjoyment aside for off day had me mostly not carrying one.  What I do really enjoy is carrying a small fixed instead.  For work carry which is not exactly what I'm reevaluating I will still carry a folder from time to time. 
Title: Re: Reevaluating my off day carry
Post by: 4everYoung on March 26, 2017, 07:22:21 PM
I've been reevaluating my off day carry as well. I really dont need larger pliers when I'm out or and about.
So my idea was the mechanic. It still has a small set of pliers and pair it with my rambler, I get scissors and various sized drivers. All that in a fairly compact size.
Title: Re: Reevaluating my off day carry
Post by: Gareth on March 27, 2017, 06:50:22 PM
Yes go for it.  This is exactly what I'm doing.  Trying stuff I never thought I'd like or actually feel covered carrying.  I'm not carrying anything as back up either.  I don't want back up cause if the tools I have aren't up to the task that fine.  It further helps me rationalize what I will carry.

Well, having found myself in need of a Phillips screwdriver this afternoon I've stuck the Scientist in my pocket with my PS4 on my keys.  In fairness the Style file/screwdriver just about coped but it was definitely lacking.

Well now you know without reservation not having a phillips isn't gonna work for you.

Very true.  Went back to the job with my Scientist and got it done properly.
Title: Re: Reevaluating my off day carry
Post by: Aloha on March 27, 2017, 06:55:30 PM
Yes go for it.  This is exactly what I'm doing.  Trying stuff I never thought I'd like or actually feel covered carrying.  I'm not carrying anything as back up either.  I don't want back up cause if the tools I have aren't up to the task that fine.  It further helps me rationalize what I will carry.

Well, having found myself in need of a Phillips screwdriver this afternoon I've stuck the Scientist in my pocket with my PS4 on my keys.  In fairness the Style file/screwdriver just about coped but it was definitely lacking.

Well now you know without reservation not having a phillips isn't gonna work for you.

Very true.  Went back to the job with my Scientist and got it done properly.

Now thats a terrific carry.
Title: Re: Reevaluating my off day carry
Post by: Gareth on March 27, 2017, 06:58:10 PM
Cheer mate.  I wish I liked the LM scissors more and I think I'm going to swap the T10 for a Tube now that the days are getting longer again but other than that I'm pretty happy with it.:)
Title: Re: Reevaluating my off day carry
Post by: Aloha on March 27, 2017, 07:03:13 PM
I have a love affair with SAK scissors so I pause when I think about "trying" others. 

As far as lights go,, with the really long days I'm finding with my highly adjustable Zebralight I can still carry a light that offers brightness when needed yet many less bright options say for my garages dark areas. 
Title: Re: Reevaluating my off day carry
Post by: Aloha on March 27, 2017, 07:18:31 PM
I forget about my Al Mar Ultralight Falcon.  I carried it yesterday and it was nice having it.  I was blade heavy but my Al Mar was my food knife.  I used it to cut tomato for lunch and open a pack of St Louis Ribs. 

Cleaning the knife is really easy and I was able to give it a proper dry as well.

I'll post up a pic in a bit. 

I'm still evaluating being capable without trying to solve any and all things that "might" come my way. 

I know I'll need to be able to cut. 
I know I'll open a can.
I know I'll need to turn flat and phillips screws.
I know I'll need to scrape or pry something.
I know I prefer scissors to a blade for some tasks.
I know I'll need to grasp something my fingers aren't strong enough to. 

I can live within certain limits.  I have no problem not being able to perform certain tasks. 
I don't require one tool to do it all.  I'm handy enough to use the tool at hand to its fullest capacity. 

What I'm not trying to do is limit myself to size and weight just for that sake.  I'm not trying to test myself by carrying around the least to see if I can get by.  This is not about what I can live without in so much as what I can manage with.

This all is subject to change as well.  I am enjoying the process as much as testing out each tools capability and my ability.
Title: Re: Reevaluating my off day carry
Post by: sir_mike on March 27, 2017, 08:58:13 PM
From reading your above post, it sounds like all you need is a SWISSCHAMP and a flashlight!  LOL

Kidding aside it is good to re-evaluate your EDC from time to time and reflect on what you have used/not used or needed/not needed in the past or since your last time you did the re-evaluating!  :)

This is a great thread to read and get ideas from so keep up the great work!   :cheers:
Title: Re: Reevaluating my off day carry
Post by: Gareth on March 27, 2017, 10:21:26 PM
I forget about my Al Mar Ultralight Falcon.  I carried it yesterday and it was nice having it.  I was blade heavy but my Al Mar was my food knife.  I used it to cut tomato for lunch and open a pack of St Louis Ribs. 

Cleaning the knife is really easy and I was able to give it a proper dry as well.

I'll post up a pic in a bit. 

I'm still evaluating being capable without trying to solve any and all things that "might" come my way. 

I know I'll need to be able to cut. 
I know I'll open a can.
I know I'll need to turn flat and phillips screws.
I know I'll need to scrape or pry something.
I know I prefer scissors to a blade for some tasks.
I know I'll need to grasp something my fingers aren't strong enough to. 

I can live within certain limits.  I have no problem not being able to perform certain tasks. 
I don't require one tool to do it all.  I'm handy enough to use the tool at hand to its fullest capacity. 

What I'm not trying to do is limit myself to size and weight just for that sake.  I'm not trying to test myself by carrying around the least to see if I can get by. This is not about what I can live without in so much as what I can manage with.

This all is subject to change as well.  I am enjoying the process as much as testing out each tools capability and my ability.

Great synopsis of where I've been going for a while now. :salute:  Our priorities aren't identical but our thinking is the same.
Title: Re: Reevaluating my off day carry
Post by: eddie1115 on March 28, 2017, 12:42:54 AM
I've been heading in this direction for a while now, so much so that I think I've found a solution (at least for now) which has led to some of my other tools being relegated to bags and kits.  I used to try to "carry as much as I could without looking like it", which was definitely a fun goal, tried lots of options looking for tool density and pocket-ability. 

Now, like you mentioned, it's about "what can I manage with".  If I have to go back to the car once in a while for a bigger tool to handle a bigger task, it's not the end of the world (for me specifically, some people have much more strict needs).  But I don't need that 95% of the time.  So my new goal was looking for compact and "reasonable", at the expense of complete preparedness (again, personal, not for everyone).

My carry these days has become very nearly an EVERY day carry, with my Pioneer X, my modded Squirt, and my Olight i3s (pliers, blade, nail file, 3d phillips, flat drivers, and tweezers).  I'll carry a full-size MT if I know there's work to be done somewhere, or a 5+ layer SAK around the house because they're just cool, but so far I've found no reason that I need to change my usual carry.
Title: Re: Reevaluating my off day carry
Post by: Aloha on March 28, 2017, 07:46:01 AM
I've been heading in this direction for a while now, so much so that I think I've found a solution (at least for now) which has led to some of my other tools being relegated to bags and kits.  I used to try to "carry as much as I could without looking like it", which was definitely a fun goal, tried lots of options looking for tool density and pocket-ability. 

Now, like you mentioned, it's about "what can I manage with".  If I have to go back to the car once in a while for a bigger tool to handle a bigger task, it's not the end of the world (for me specifically, some people have much more strict needs).  But I don't need that 95% of the time.  So my new goal was looking for compact and "reasonable", at the expense of complete preparedness (again, personal, not for everyone).

My carry these days has become very nearly an EVERY day carry, with my Pioneer X, my modded Squirt, and my Olight i3s (pliers, blade, nail file, 3d phillips, flat drivers, and tweezers).  I'll carry a full-size MT if I know there's work to be done somewhere, or a 5+ layer SAK around the house because they're just cool, but so far I've found no reason that I need to change my usual carry.

I see no reason for you to change it either  :like:

Modding your Squirt really sets you up for success especially when adding in a great SAK with scissors. 

IF like you say you feel the need to get work done then brining along a larger tool is the obvious way to go.  My goal is not packing up a tool box for "what ifs".   I'm also not trying to carry a Classic and get by when I know I'll need more tool. 

Its really been a fun journey.  I also have zero problem packing heavy just because.  There are no set parameters in what I"m doing.   
Title: Re: Reevaluating my off day carry
Post by: Aloha on March 29, 2017, 04:54:38 PM
My Al Mar
Title: Re: Reevaluating my off day carry
Post by: Gareth on March 29, 2017, 05:16:43 PM
I don't think I'd realised how compact the Al Mar is.  Very nice. :tu:
Title: Re: Reevaluating my off day carry
Post by: Aloha on March 29, 2017, 05:35:24 PM
So here's a tool I played with the other day.  Its Leatherman By The Numbers  #5.  I wanted to have a pry function and a small wrench option as well.  I also like the package opener feature but truthfully any edge of the tool would work.  Its wider that my other pry tool but not terrible.   I'm not too worried I have several items since each on its own is useful and can be stand alone tool, more testing of the LM#5 to confirm or refute it as such.     

Here is my carry today. 
LM #5
P4
Golfer
LD02
Title: Re: Reevaluating my off day carry
Post by: Aloha on March 29, 2017, 05:42:27 PM
I don't think I'd realised how compact the Al Mar is.  Very nice. :tu:

And incredibly light, I believe the weight is 1oz or a smidge more.  In hand its about a light as my Celidor Bantam.  Its a tough little blade too which I like.
Title: Re: Reevaluating my off day carry
Post by: Aloha on April 03, 2017, 06:15:57 PM
Not sure if I'm settling into a carry combo just yet but I am really not seeing my Squirt P4 leaving.  I also am really loving my 84mm SAKs.  I specifically love my Golfer and Tinker however I am carrying my Wenger Viking/Hunter, really not sure which it is but thats not important.  I also have no hesitation to carry my Recruit or Bantam. 

I've added a Leatherman #5 to the mix as I've mentioned many times I enjoy a little pry tool.  This tool has been quite nice to carry.  Its already earned its keep in helping me tighter loose Philips on my cabinet.

So the picture below, left side are my go to tools.  The right side are items I'll swap in/out just because. 

My light for the day is my Fenix LD02 and for night is my Zebralight.   

   
Title: Re: Reevaluating my off day carry
Post by: Aloha on April 12, 2017, 06:54:24 PM
I dont want to say I'm settling in with my carry yet.  I can say the the addition of the LM#5 tool has been a good call.  I like the tool overall and it carries nicely.  My 84mm Tinker is really a great little tool.  I have to say I am a little surprised now that I like it so much.  I also continue to big a big fan of my LM Squirt P4.  I'm glad I picked up a spare when I did. 

I reintroduced my Cadet 2 to the mix but something is leaving me flat about it.  Not sure what exactly. 

This has been a good experience of not carrying my Wave or any other medium sized plier based MT on my off days. 
Title: Re: Reevaluating my off day carry
Post by: ducttapetech on April 12, 2017, 06:59:39 PM
Interesting thread bromigo. I pretty much carry the same stuff on the weekends as I do during the weekdays. Of course when I am not at work I am on the farm.
Great thread!
Title: Re: Reevaluating my off day carry
Post by: leathermon on April 12, 2017, 07:05:00 PM
I like this thread a lot, I recently picked up a few small nitecore lights and started thinking about carrying one of those paired with my ps4 and the shard. After reading this i think I'm closer to leap, lol.

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Title: Re: Reevaluating my off day carry
Post by: Aloha on April 12, 2017, 07:12:19 PM
Interesting thread bromigo. I pretty much carry the same stuff on the weekends as I do during the weekdays. Of course when I am not at work I am on the farm.
Great thread!

There have been a few occasions where having a larger plier based tool would have been convenient.  Nothing that a very short walk to get a tool wouldn't be super bothersome. 
Title: Re: Reevaluating my off day carry
Post by: Aloha on April 12, 2017, 07:17:05 PM
I like this thread a lot, I recently picked up a few small nitecore lights and started thinking about carrying one of those paired with my ps4 and the shard. After reading this i think I'm closer to leap, lol.

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The sun is out here in Cali for a good long while so a small light is the right call for me.  Yes I very much like my Zebralight and the modes are so great that I can carry it instead of my LD02 but its all about testing.   

I am not trying to see how small or little I can go with.  I'm also not trying to see much I can do without either.  I am trying to balance having tools that I can rely on with out having to carry all of them  :D.

I believe I've mentioned that I will still carry a tool just because.  I am still enjoying having tools and carrying them.  So, I will toss in a fixed blade or Spirit if I feel like it. 

BTW, the Shard is a wonderful tool.  Sadly its the only tool I lost but our time together was amazing. 
Title: Re: Reevaluating my off day carry
Post by: leathermon on April 12, 2017, 09:07:53 PM
Another setup I've been toying with is the leatherman mini and a vic classic, giving me the essentials: knive, pliers,  and sisscors.

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Title: Re: Reevaluating my off day carry
Post by: Aloha on April 12, 2017, 09:24:58 PM
Another setup I've been toying with is the leatherman mini and a vic classic, giving me the essentials: knive, pliers,  and sisscors.

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Thats a great combo.  Give it a try for at least a few days. 
Title: Re: Reevaluating my off day carry
Post by: leathermon on April 12, 2017, 11:14:25 PM
I will this weekend,  I started too wear cargo pants more,  and with all the extra pockets, as long as the tools are smaller there is no need for belt carry.

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Title: Re: Reevaluating my off day carry
Post by: Aloha on April 12, 2017, 11:58:37 PM
Whats impressed me most is for my off day "needs" a 84mm SAK is very capable but more than that its nearly unnoticeable in pocket. 

My Squirt lives in my coin pocket till needed along with my Fenix LD02.  When or if I feel I need or want more tools then no problem I add to my hearts desire. 

It was a transition of mind more than need or lack thereof. 
Title: Re: Reevaluating my off day carry
Post by: Gareth on April 14, 2017, 04:44:59 PM
Still playing with my light carry a bit, but here's what I've got on me just now.  Small pocket knife (RR Whittler), Squirt P4, Vic Rambler and Nitecore Tube.

(https://forum.multitool.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=68477.0;attach=313326)
Title: Re: Reevaluating my off day carry
Post by: Poncho65 on April 14, 2017, 05:13:20 PM
After the challenge I am gonna try a bit of this as well :think:

Great thread BTW :like: :like:

I have carried this before and it worked wonderfully, an Executive, a Shard and my  :ahhh :ahhh :ahhh !!!MINI!!! :ahhh :ahhh :ahhh

I think that it meets most if not all my needs and for a light I have for the last several months carried an Olight I3e :like: :like:

Been good watching the progression and reading this thread :tu:
Title: Re: Reevaluating my off day carry
Post by: Aloha on April 15, 2017, 06:44:36 AM
Still playing with my light carry a bit, but here's what I've got on me just now.  Small pocket knife (RR Whittler), Squirt P4, Vic Rambler and Nitecore Tube.

(https://forum.multitool.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=68477.0;attach=313326)

 :like:

With whats on your keychain you really are set, the RR however is pretty wonderful.  I like to carry my reevaluated carry items and possibly a fun items just because. 

Title: Re: Reevaluating my off day carry
Post by: Aloha on April 15, 2017, 06:49:11 AM
After the challenge I am gonna try a bit of this as well :think:

Great thread BTW :like: :like:

I have carried this before and it worked wonderfully, an Executive, a Shard and my  :ahhh :ahhh :ahhh !!!MINI!!! :ahhh :ahhh :ahhh

I think that it meets most if not all my needs and for a light I have for the last several months carried an Olight I3e :like: :like:

Been good watching the progression and reading this thread :tu:

Executive, Shard, and Mini are a powerful trio.  What a terrific light the Olight is. 

Title: Re: Reevaluating my off day carry
Post by: Aloha on April 15, 2017, 06:52:37 AM
So heres something I almost completely forgot about.  I have a PW2 and since I do like to have a pry tool that is not a one trick pony I figured I'd give it a carry. 

Now my Leatherman #5 is a nice little carry item but the PW2 is a lot more capable.  I was thinking we could even have a PW2 challenge?

84mm Tinker, LD02, and Pocket Wrench 2. 
Title: Re: Reevaluating my off day carry
Post by: Don Pablo on April 15, 2017, 10:54:33 AM
I like the sound of that!  :tu:  :like:
Would definitely follow.
Title: Re: Reevaluating my off day carry
Post by: Poncho65 on April 15, 2017, 12:09:16 PM
I have looked into.getting a PW or a PW2 for last few years and just never have pulled the trigger yet :facepalm:

That is an awesome carry Aloha and yes the Olights are fantastic lights :tu: I have also been looking to get one of the brighter small lights they have as well :tu:
Title: Re: Reevaluating my off day carry
Post by: Gareth on April 15, 2017, 03:14:23 PM
Still playing with my light carry a bit, but here's what I've got on me just now.  Small pocket knife (RR Whittler), Squirt P4, Vic Rambler and Nitecore Tube.

(https://forum.multitool.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=68477.0;attach=313326)

 :like:

With whats on your keychain you really are set, the RR however is pretty wonderful.  I like to carry my reevaluated carry items and possibly a fun items just because.
:cheers:
Title: Re: Reevaluating my off day carry
Post by: Aloha on April 15, 2017, 04:42:04 PM
I have looked into.getting a PW or a PW2 for last few years and just never have pulled the trigger yet :facepalm:

That is an awesome carry Aloha and yes the Olights are fantastic lights :tu: I have also been looking to get one of the brighter small lights they have as well :tu:

I have the Ti Thrunite 160+ lumen which is pretty awesome for AAA.  I have to admit tho, the LD02 with its clicky is pretty nice light.  I will also admit that I like the strobe mode.  I run all my lights off eneloops so I get a bit more run time than spec'd. 

   
Title: Re: Reevaluating my off day carry
Post by: Gareth on April 21, 2017, 12:39:43 PM
I'm also playing with how I'm carrying mine.  Above you can see what I've done for years with small tools, simply clipped them to my keys, but I'm currently trying out just having a small tool set on one 'S' biner and keeping my keys less bulky.  I'd normally of removed the MT from my keys to use them anyway but with much less in the way I'm not sure I need to do that quite so often.  It's all an experiment and time will tell.

(https://forum.multitool.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=9225.0;attach=314678)
Title: Re: Reevaluating my off day carry
Post by: Poncho65 on April 22, 2017, 05:47:09 PM
I have looked into.getting a PW or a PW2 for last few years and just never have pulled the trigger yet :facepalm:

That is an awesome carry Aloha and yes the Olights are fantastic lights :tu: I have also been looking to get one of the brighter small lights they have as well :tu:

I have the Ti Thrunite 160+ lumen which is pretty awesome for AAA.  I have to admit tho, the LD02 with its clicky is pretty nice light.  I will also admit that I like the strobe mode.  I run all my lights off eneloops so I get a bit more run time than spec'd. 

   

I need to give those lights a look at :salute: :like:

Also been meaning to get some eneloops  for years :facepalm: :whistle: :D
Title: Re: Reevaluating my off day carry
Post by: Poncho65 on April 22, 2017, 05:48:04 PM
I'm also playing with how I'm carrying mine.  Above you can see what I've done for years with small tools, simply clipped them to my keys, but I'm currently trying out just having a small tool set on one 'S' biner and keeping my keys less bulky.  I'd normally of removed the MT from my keys to use them anyway but with much less in the way I'm not sure I need to do that quite so often.  It's all an experiment and time will tell.

(https://forum.multitool.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=9225.0;attach=314678)

After the Gerber challenge I may try this as I have an extra S biner or 2 laying around in that size :think: :like: :like:
Title: Re: Reevaluating my off day carry
Post by: Don Pablo on April 22, 2017, 05:50:11 PM
I have looked into.getting a PW or a PW2 for last few years and just never have pulled the trigger yet :facepalm:

That is an awesome carry Aloha and yes the Olights are fantastic lights :tu: I have also been looking to get one of the brighter small lights they have as well :tu:

I have the Ti Thrunite 160+ lumen which is pretty awesome for AAA.  I have to admit tho, the LD02 with its clicky is pretty nice light.  I will also admit that I like the strobe mode.  I run all my lights off eneloops so I get a bit more run time than spec'd. 

   

I need to give those lights a look at :salute: :like:

Also been meaning to get some eneloops  for years :facepalm: :whistle: :D
Get them Eneloops.  :pok:  :D

I use a Ti3. Firefly is good for reading at night and doing something without disturbing anyone, and the 120 lumen high is plenty high.  :like:
Title: Re: Reevaluating my off day carry
Post by: Gareth on April 22, 2017, 10:56:01 PM
I have looked into.getting a PW or a PW2 for last few years and just never have pulled the trigger yet :facepalm:

That is an awesome carry Aloha and yes the Olights are fantastic lights :tu: I have also been looking to get one of the brighter small lights they have as well :tu:

I have the Ti Thrunite 160+ lumen which is pretty awesome for AAA.  I have to admit tho, the LD02 with its clicky is pretty nice light.  I will also admit that I like the strobe mode.  I run all my lights off eneloops so I get a bit more run time than spec'd. 

   

I need to give those lights a look at :salute: :like:

Also been meaning to get some eneloops  for years :facepalm: :whistle: :D
Get them Eneloops.  :pok:  :D

I use a Ti3. Firefly is good for reading at night and doing something without disturbing anyone, and the 120 lumen high is plenty high.  :like:

The Ti3 is a cracking little light, but I have to say I'd carry it a lot more if it had a proper mode memory. :-\
Title: Re: Reevaluating my off day carry
Post by: carboncopy101 on April 27, 2017, 04:14:05 AM
Evaluated my off day carry, and it seems that I use the blades, bottle and can opener, and corkscrew. I use the magnifier a lot, thus, using the explorer most of the time. However, switching to the swisschamp made me realize how badly I need a ruler and a file. The rest of the tools just gives me the feeling that anything I can fix with all those tools. I guess I'll try bringing a tape measure plus explorer to see if its better.
Title: Re: Reevaluating my off day carry
Post by: Aloha on April 27, 2017, 06:41:54 AM
The fun part is deciding what you like to have and what you can live without.  A Swisschamp to me is fine even if I never use the fish tickler.  The idea of having one tool with many capabilities is enough to carry it when I did. 

I am still carrying my 84mm Tinker, Pocket Wrench 2, and Fenix LD02.  I have missed the scissors on a few occasions but my I have realized that the combo tool on my Golfer isn't so great.   
Title: Re: Reevaluating my off day carry
Post by: carboncopy101 on April 27, 2017, 07:13:36 AM
The fun part is deciding what you like to have and what you can live without.  A Swisschamp to me is fine even if I never use the fish tickler.  The idea of having one tool with many capabilities is enough to carry it when I did. 

I am still carrying my 84mm Tinker, Pocket Wrench 2, and Fenix LD02.  I have missed the scissors on a few occasions but my I have realized that the combo tool on my Golfer isn't so great.

That is true. I like the feeling we get when we have a tool in our pocket right for the task.  :salute:
Title: Re: Reevaluating my off day carry
Post by: Aloha on April 30, 2017, 09:41:21 PM
Off today as a result of not getting the equipment I needed.  Oh well  :D

So I was out early to take care of life stuff and reached for 84mm Tinker, Leatherman #5, Squirt P4,  and Fenix LD02.  This really is working out nicely.  I do switch out my LM#5 for my pocket wrench 2 or even my simple pry bar.  I will also switch out my Tinker for my Cadet 2.  I haven't yes switched out my light tho. 

The reason I switch out tools is mostly due to where I go and what I feel for the day.  I also find it keeps things fun.  The reason I haven't switched out my light is cause my Fenix SS EO5 can be wonky.  It doesn't alway go on even with a fresh cell.  I have other AAA lights but I like the LD02.  I might try another AAA I have to keep things fun. 

Here is where another change will occur just for testing purposes. I just acquitted a SOG Crossgrip.  Its a bit larger than my P4 but not terrible.  I can still carry it rather comfortably and it has nearly all the same tools. 

I don't have that pressing urge to carry a larger tool on my off day when I leave the house.  I struggled with feeling under prepared but it has totally passed. 

Its been really interesting changing things around when off.  Now when I decide to stuff my pockets or load my belt up its because I just want to enjoy the tools rather than because I feel under prepared.   
Title: Re: Reevaluating my off day carry
Post by: Gareth on April 30, 2017, 10:56:32 PM
Oh, nice find on the Crossgrip mate.  That's one of the few MTs that I'd still like to get my hands on for very much the same reasons you've got it. :tu:
Title: Re: Reevaluating my off day carry
Post by: Aloha on May 01, 2017, 06:40:11 AM
I was clearing out some things in the garage and vehicle and those little pliers on the SOG are nice.  I spent some time getting the chisel ground edge up to par and it not bad either.  I am not entirely sure about he odd little Philips driver yet but I'll reserve judgement for now. 

The one thing I really liked on the Leatherman P4 was the tools were on the outside.  Not a deal breaker for the SOG but noteworthy. 

I also was a tad bummed the file on the SOG was only one sided.  Hooray for the P4 being 3 sided.  Again I won't yet judge to harshly for now.  The tool preformed as needed today so thats a win in my book. 

 
Title: Re: Reevaluating my off day carry
Post by: Aloha on May 30, 2017, 04:16:55 PM
I carried my new to me SOG Crossgrip enough to know its not making the cut.  You can read more here https://forum.multitool.org/index.php/topic,72150.msg1482599.html#msg1482599

I've also made a few leather things to carry my items.
https://forum.multitool.org/index.php/topic,72132.msg1482704.html#msg1482704

So where am I with what I'm carrying?  Well the 84mm Tinker seems to be the most carried SAK days off.  I recently cleaned up a square phillips 84mm Tinker so I'd have a spare. I have 2 Fenix LD02 lights which is a good thing for me.  The simplicity of those lights combined with a clicky make them an easy choice to carry. 

I've all but ditched the simple pry tool.  I much favor my Pocket Wrench 2 as it can do so much, I also have 2 of those. 

I still add in items at will simply because they are fun to carry.  I am in no way "set".  These are things that work now and when or if the need arises then I like many will adjust. 

Remember this is not about how little I can manage with.  This isn't about carrying a paperclip to show how ingenious I am in tackling what comes my way. 

Its about carrying items that I know I'll need and knowing that I cannot or don't want to be prepared for every possible scenario.   

Title: Re: Reevaluating my off day carry
Post by: Aloha on June 22, 2017, 10:33:35 PM
Ok back again with some more thoughts. 

I tried to carry a SAK with combo tool in the form of my Bantom or Golfer both 84mm.  I just cannot get on with those combo tools when it comes to opening cans.  I can admit that I love the regular SAK can opener best. 

I've needed scissors on a few occasions.  My carry doesn't include them.  It wasn't critical but it would have been more convenient.

I'm still loving my 84mm Tinker.  There's nothing to dislike.  If it had scissors then it would be near perfect.  Not having them tho is not a big deal. 

I love my Pocket Wrench 2.  If you own one you know what I'm taking about.  Other than cut it can do so much.

Fenix LD02.  I would have never thought I'd like this light as much as I do.  My Fenix SS E05 is such a disappointment.  Its so temperamental.  It works then it doesn't.  Ah well.

Leatherman P4 is the bees knees.  Its the best little tool for me.

So my thing now is how to carry these tools.  I made a sheath for my P4 and Tinker.  Its nice ( to me ) and works great.  I am enjoying carrying it.

My light and pen ride together in a sheath.  Its ok but I'd like to make a pad holder that would include holding my pen.

I made a prototype of a sheath I have for a 58mm SAK.  This started out being for my Manager so you'll see where I cut a slit in the leather.  I later realized I should try to fit my 84mm Tinker.  Well I actually like how it fits.  I thought the space my Tinker filled in the sheath I made for it and my P4 could now hold my PW2. 

So as you see not much has really changed.  I am still running my 84mm Tinker, Leatherman P4, Fenix LD02, and Pocket Wrench 2.  These 4 small tools all do what I need and much more.  They are easy to carry and tough as nails. 

Now I must mention that I am playing around with a BO Tread bracelet.  Its been 3 days ?  Well its only been a little bit now.  I won't consider this as part of what my thread is about, just thought it was worth mentioning.

   

Title: Re: Reevaluating my off day carry
Post by: Gareth on June 22, 2017, 11:01:22 PM
Sorry to hear the SOG didn't work out better.  I'm trying to think of an argument against the P4 but as it's been my carry for a month or more, I really can't think of one. :think:  My little group of P4, Vic Rambler and Nitecore Tube with some kind of knife or SAK added really has covered my needs. 
Title: Re: Reevaluating my off day carry
Post by: styx on June 23, 2017, 10:23:54 AM
Sorry to hear the SOG didn't work out better.  I'm trying to think of an argument against the P4 but as it's been my carry for a month or more, I really can't think of one. :think:  My little group of P4, Vic Rambler and Nitecore Tube with some kind of knife or SAK added really has covered my needs. 

Well there is an easy negative - it is hard to kick out of your EDC
Title: Re: Reevaluating my off day carry
Post by: Gareth on June 23, 2017, 12:49:18 PM
Sorry to hear the SOG didn't work out better.  I'm trying to think of an argument against the P4 but as it's been my carry for a month or more, I really can't think of one. :think:  My little group of P4, Vic Rambler and Nitecore Tube with some kind of knife or SAK added really has covered my needs. 

Well there is an easy negative - it is hard to kick out of your EDC

that's it.  the damn thing just won't get out of my pocket. :D
Title: Re: Reevaluating my off day carry
Post by: pfrsantos on June 23, 2017, 12:51:58 PM
Sorry to hear the SOG didn't work out better.  I'm trying to think of an argument against the P4 but as it's been my carry for a month or more, I really can't think of one. :think:  My little group of P4, Vic Rambler and Nitecore Tube with some kind of knife or SAK added really has covered my needs. 

Well there is an easy negative - it is hard to kick out of your EDC

that's it.  the damn thing just won't get out of my pocket. :D

That's what she said...

 :whistle:

 :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
Title: Re: Reevaluating my off day carry
Post by: Aloha on June 24, 2017, 12:19:41 AM
Sorry to hear the SOG didn't work out better.  I'm trying to think of an argument against the P4 but as it's been my carry for a month or more, I really can't think of one. :think:  My little group of P4, Vic Rambler and Nitecore Tube with some kind of knife or SAK added really has covered my needs.

Glad to hear your carry has been working out for you.  When I initially stopped carrying a full size MT I honestly thought I'd regret it.  I'm glad to report I haven't regretted it one bit. 

The Leatherman P4 is really quite a little workhorse.  The Rambler is a terrific SAK and while I don't have a Tube, from everything I've read and watched ( reviews ) it looks like a solid little light. 
Title: Re: Reevaluating my off day carry
Post by: Aloha on October 16, 2017, 07:55:27 PM
Back again.  What has continued to work has been the 84mm Tinker.  I don't know why I really like this SAK.  I think the 84mm line is just sublime.  I've been looking at the 85mm line a lot however and trying to see if anything attracts me.  The Victorinx EVO 16 is really looking great.  I think I'll need to eventually get one and give it a go.  I love the red and black evo grip scales a lot.  I've also mentioned scissors are missing from my carry.  Its not been crucial but if I can get them into a SAK that works for me then I'd like to try.   

My light choice has changed a bit.  I got a Manker EO2 and really like it.  I am a sucker for the strobe feature.  Yeah I know, theres not a lot of love for it among light enthusiast.  Hey whatever floats your boat is what I say.  Since I really like my Fenix LD02 I carry both.  Why not? 

My Leatherman Squirt P4 has remained a wonderful. This tool is the bees knees as I"ve already mentioned.  I don't see it loosing its spot anytime soon.  The tool set it a real compliment to my Tinker and should continue to be if I get the EVO 16.   

My Pocket Wrench 2.  Well despite my love of this tool it has not been carried as much as it initially was.  I think I need to find a better way to carry it.  I would like to remake my Tinker/Squirt sheath to include a space for it.  I decide to carry it when I feel like it or if I feel I may need a bit more oomph than my Squirt is up to.   

What I am beginning to realize is ease of carry makes all the difference for me.  Ok I guess that's always been true.  I want to have a compact carry system that fits into my pocket comfortably.   I have to be able to carry my tools in a way that makes sense for me.  On my off days I need to be able to take out my sheath, remove a tool, then put the tool back all without fuss.  I also don't want every pocket to be loaded down.

This brings me to folders.  I am still having an off and on relationship with them.  I like to carry them and when I do I lean on my Delicas.  One is fully serrated and one PE.  You might notice I've got one configured for left hand and one for right hand.  I'm a dominant lefty BUT only slightly.  I can use either hand effectively.  I like to carry the waved Delica on my right side.   Oddly tho I carry my serrated Delica either in my right rear pocket or left front pocket.  Thats a whole other thread tho.  I do like to carry my Al Mar when I want to be gentlemanly.  I like the knife a lot and mostly carry it when the urge strikes. 

I am not having the best time with my Space pen.  I had a leak and was really disappointed.  The form factor is nice and my issue was probably one of very few.  The sheath I've made for it is working out good. 

My ever present Manager in a sheath.  I keep this on my house keychain.  I wish I could find another sheath like this.  The sheath originally housed a Classic but I wet formed it to accept my Manager.  Love this SAK and sheath.

Lastly is a sheath I made but have repurposed it to carry a mini Bic and fox 40.  Not entirely sure if I am gonna carry it everyday.  It rode well on my house keychain.  I'd like to make it a bit smaller and maybe with a snap closure.  We'll see. 
   

   
     
Title: Re: Reevaluating my off day carry
Post by: Aloha on October 16, 2017, 07:57:24 PM
My awesome Manager sheath.   The min Bic and Fox 40 in its repurposed sheath. 
Title: Re: Reevaluating my off day carry
Post by: ThePeacent on October 16, 2017, 08:18:33 PM
I  :like:  those sheaths, especially the ones you made yourself. I wish I had that kind of talent,
and as always  it's very interesting to follow the natural progression of your EDC, it's thought provoking to say the least   :cheers:
Title: Re: Reevaluating my off day carry
Post by: Aloha on October 16, 2017, 08:21:28 PM
I  :like:  those sheaths, especially the ones you made yourself. I wish I had that kind of talent,
and as always  it's very interesting to follow the natural progression of your EDC, it's thought provoking to say the least   :cheers:

 :oops:

I have patience not talent  :rofl:.  I also copied both styles of sheaths ( tinker/squirt and light/pen ) unapologetically  :D.  Get some leather or similar material and give it a go. Its really fun to see what comes about. 

Title: Re: Reevaluating my off day carry
Post by: Poncho65 on October 18, 2017, 12:10:53 PM
Love reading this and getting an understanding of why you carry what you do :tu: It really is good to see how others get to where they are in their carry :like: :like:
Title: Re: Reevaluating my off day carry
Post by: lister on October 18, 2017, 12:29:38 PM
I  :like:  those sheaths, especially the ones you made yourself. I wish I had that kind of talent,
and as always  it's very interesting to follow the natural progression of your EDC, it's thought provoking to say the least   :cheers:

 :oops:

I have patience not talent  :rofl:.  I also copied both styles of sheaths ( tinker/squirt and light/pen ) unapologetically  :D.  Get some leather or similar material and give it a go. Its really fun to see what comes about.

Sewing is really not that hard you just must give it a go. It is often frustrating and it takes a while to get a hang of but almost anyone can do it. But then again the same can be said about most things...  :D
Title: Re: Reevaluating my off day carry
Post by: alexTOOL on October 18, 2017, 11:25:28 PM
I will give you combo options tested by me:

- Vic Cadet
- Vic folding scissors (Nogent scissors really) >>> http://www.ciseauxpliants.fr/Files/1_bordeaux__trio_.jpg
- LM Mini

- LM Style PS
- Vic Cadet

- Vic Manager
- LM Skeletool or Freestyle

- Vic Voyager
- LM Mini

- LM PS4 or LM Style PS
- Vic Bantam

- LM Style CS
- LM Skeletool


And so on...


Title: Re: Reevaluating my off day carry
Post by: Aloha on October 18, 2017, 11:59:08 PM
I will give you combo options tested by me:

- Vic Cadet
- Vic folding scissors (Nogent scissors really) >>> http://www.ciseauxpliants.fr/Files/1_bordeaux__trio_.jpg
- LM Mini

- LM Style PS
- Vic Cadet

- Vic Manager
- LM Skeletool or Freestyle

- Vic Voyager
- LM Mini

- LM PS4 or LM Style PS
- Vic Bantam

- LM Style CS
- LM Skeletool


And so on...

Which set is used most often?  I notice some "favorites". 
Title: Re: Reevaluating my off day carry
Post by: ThundahBeagle on October 19, 2017, 04:15:29 AM
Aloha,

So, you no longer carry a regular sized Leatherman or other multi on your days off?

I will agree that the P4 (Now the Squirt PS4 if I'm not wrong) is a really nice tool packed into a small package. My buddy who works with me lost his on the Job. I carry a PST or bigger, plus a Super Tinker, so I was kind of ribbing him over what I perceived as a toy of a Leatherman.

Anyway, I bought him another PS4 on his birthday to replace the lost one. I took it out of the package to make sure it was all there before gifting, and I almost didn't want to give it. Very nice plyers. Far better than the Deluxe Tinker plyers.
Title: Re: Reevaluating my off day carry
Post by: ThundahBeagle on October 19, 2017, 04:29:23 AM
I have an original PST for weekends to keep it casual but still ready. That is unless I am working on the truck or Jeep, then it is dedicated Craftsman tools with the Surge as the gopher or backup.

I pair my LM with any one from my Tinker line, Tinker, Super or Deluxe.

If I get another OG PST, I would even carry one at work. I'm old school like that.

When I walk the Thundah Beagle at night, I carry my Surge. OHO is great if my other hand is bound up in the leash.
Title: Re: Reevaluating my off day carry
Post by: ThundahBeagle on October 19, 2017, 04:33:11 AM
And to top it all off, Scout the ThundahBeagle is now outfitted with a red BSA Classic SD snapped to his collar
Title: Re: Reevaluating my off day carry
Post by: ThundahBeagle on October 19, 2017, 04:54:27 AM
Scout the Thundah Beagle's new adventure carry

Or, as seen here, his lounge-around- the house- carry
Title: Re: Reevaluating my off day carry
Post by: Aloha on October 19, 2017, 06:49:23 AM
Aloha,

So, you no longer carry a regular sized Leatherman or other multi on your days off?

I will agree that the P4 (Now the Squirt PS4 if I'm not wrong) is a really nice tool packed into a small package. My buddy who works with me lost his on the Job. I carry a PST or bigger, plus a Super Tinker, so I was kind of ribbing him over what I perceived as a toy of a Leatherman.

Anyway, I bought him another PS4 on his birthday to replace the lost one. I took it out of the package to make sure it was all there before gifting, and I almost didn't want to give it. Very nice plyers. Far better than the Deluxe Tinker plyers.

Yes the Squirt PS4 did replace the P4.   I have a PS4 that does see some pocket time but there are issues with it.  I may have highlighted them somewhere, maybe even in this thread. 

Anyway no I don't always carry a full size MT on my off days.  If I really feel like I may end up somewhere or doing something that having them is better than not having them then sure.  I found that over the years a small plier or my Pocket Wrench 2 was enough.  I agree the pliers on the Squirt are much tougher than the SAK pliers.  I have to admit tho, I've never seen the SAK pliers as "pliers".  I've always seen them more as "super tweezer".  They are great but limited as compared to the Squirts. 

If I feel full sized pliers should be carried then I do have a Charge AL that I like.  I also will carry this same tool at home when I'm doing stuff around the home and the convenience of having pliers is important.

What I have realized was my 84mm Tinker, Squirt P4, and soon to be PW2 again once I figure a good way to carry it, are quite a capable trio.  I've noted that when I feel the need I do add in a folder.  I made a thread about evolution and I feel I've evolved in what I carry and how I like to carry these items.  It was not about going minimal yet it seems that way. 

I always have a Swisstool on in my vehicle so technically I'm not far from a MT.         
Title: Re: Reevaluating my off day carry
Post by: Aloha on October 19, 2017, 04:55:32 PM
Heres the post I made of why I like the P4 over the PS4.  Could I get by with the PS4? Yes.  I certainly could.  I may mod the tool to shape the scales like the P4 but I hesitate cause if the tool should break LM may not warranty it.

https://forum.multitool.org/index.php/topic,72166.msg1485448.html#_
Title: Re: Reevaluating my off day carry
Post by: alexTOOL on October 19, 2017, 11:50:30 PM
I will give you combo options tested by me:

- Vic Cadet
- Vic folding scissors (Nogent scissors really) >>> http://www.ciseauxpliants.fr/Files/1_bordeaux__trio_.jpg
- LM Mini

- LM Style PS
- Vic Cadet


- Vic Manager
- LM Skeletool or Freestyle

- Vic Voyager
- LM Mini

- LM PS4 or LM Style PS
- Vic Bantam


- LM Style CS
- LM Skeletool


And so on...

Which set is used most often?  I notice some "favorites".

It is difficult to downloadsize...  :P :rant: :facepalm:
Title: Re: Reevaluating my off day carry
Post by: Aloha on November 23, 2017, 04:17:06 PM
Well here I am again droning on about my off day carry.  Thanks for listening or pretending to do so  :D.

I have been thinking about how I got here and why.  Here being my choice of off day carry items.  I posted this so I could try to determine how and why I've decided to carry what I carry.    https://forum.multitool.org/index.php/topic,74242.msg1568299.html#msg1568299

I read so many on here talking about natural progression.  I called it evolution.  Whatever we choose to call it many of us go through some kind of process.  I've come full circle at times as I've read other have too.  I've then gone outside the box just to see what that would be like. 

Where am I then?  Well, pretty much the same, kinda.  Sheath with P4 and 84mm Tinker.  Manager in sheath on house keys.  I have been carrying my mini Bic and Fox 40 whistle in the sheath I showed.  I have abandoned my Space pen and sheath thing.  I'll come to that in a sec.  I carry my light ( Fenix LD02 ) on my house keys.  I'm not entirely happy with it there.  More on that later too.  I've also made an effort to carry a dedicated folder.  Why?  Not entirely sure actually.  I have been carrying my Delica 4. 

So about the Space pen.  While I like the sheath I made to carry the pen and light I am not happy with the pen in the sheath.  I'm not without pen as my Manager has one.  I need to really think about just carrying the pen loose in pocket.

As a result of abandoning the pen/light sheath I needed a way to carry my light.  For now I clipped my light ( Fenix LD02 ) onto my house keys.  Its not ideal as the keychain is bulky.  I tried to clip my Manker E02 onto my car keys but that also is not ideal. 

I have gone back and forth thinking I might get a newer brighter keychain specific light like the Nitecore Tube or TIP or Makner.  This way the light is "made" for keychain carry.  I am leaning towards that for now. 

I like SAKs.  I feel like I want to carry my Alox from time to time and justifying carrying it happens.  If I already have a Manager and 84mm Tinker why?  Now I'm making an effort to carry a folder ( Delica 4) so really?

What I know about me is I like these tools and why the heck not!  My "goal" was never to be a minimalist.  I had no goal actually.  Like I began this post today, I think I've evolved more than anything. 

I do want to figure out my light carry.  I also want to make a decision about my pen carry. 

The constants have been my Manager and my Tinker/Squirt P4 sheath.  The new addition is my mini Bic/Fox40 carry.  I really like having this duo. 

I may need to pull the trigger on the keychain light.   

   
Title: Re: Reevaluating my off day carry
Post by: Mechanickal on November 23, 2017, 04:49:59 PM
Nothing to add...

Do what you like!
Redundancy? It's used in safety systems for a reason ;)
Title: Re: Reevaluating my off day carry
Post by: Aloha on November 23, 2017, 06:14:27 PM
I want to be like Ronald.  I want to carry several SAKs because dammit I can.  I imagine myself emptying my pockets and lookin gat the table.  I'm standing there wondering why the F all this stuff in in them.  I began rationalizing why when I stop myself mid rationalization. 

Manager on keychain.  Serves me so well and is a bullet proof carry tool.  It does have limits.
Tinker in sheath.  I continue to be surprised how well I like this simple SAK.  Paired with my Manager and I feel I can nearly dominate the world.................. :D
Squirt P4 in sheath with Tinker.  Having pliers is a good thing.  Having small effective pliers is awesome.  I also get a file, Awl, a variety of smaller drivers in such a compact package.  WIN WIN WIN. 

I dont "need" to carry anything else BUT I want to, sometimes.  So I'll pop a larger SAK in my pocket.  The second it hits the bottom of my pocket I wonder to myself, WHY?  Why am I brining this tool along?  What purpose does it serve? 

I am not a minimalist.  I am not a minimalist.  I say again, I am not a minimalist.  I also don't have to justify to myself why.  But I do and then I take the SAK out and at some point in my day I yet again question why? 

I don't have a point by the way.  If you were thinking I do. 

I will continue to cary my "core" items and when the urge strikes I WILL carry what I want in addition.  Redundancy is for many part of thier system.  Its a system unto itself.  My mind doesn't work that way actually.  I may have said 1 is none and 2 is one but I really dont adhere to that in my day to day.  I don't consciously make the effort to do so. 

Today I will add my Farmer to my mix.  Why?  Because thats why  :salute: 
Title: Re: Reevaluating my off day carry
Post by: Ron Who on November 23, 2017, 06:32:21 PM
Do you know that scene from the 2005 movie Sahara, where Dirk and Al are captured by Tuareg, and Al unloads? One of the funniest movie scenes ever, imo.
Title: Re: Reevaluating my off day carry
Post by: ThundahBeagle on November 24, 2017, 09:16:23 AM
I want to be like Ronald.  I want to carry several SAKs because dammit I can.  I imagine myself emptying my pockets and lookin gat the table.  I'm standing there wondering why the F all this stuff in in them.  I began rationalizing why when I stop myself mid rationalization. 

Manager on keychain.  Serves me so well and is a bullet proof carry tool.  It does have limits.
Tinker in sheath.  I continue to be surprised how well I like this simple SAK.  Paired with my Manager and I feel I can nearly dominate the world.................. :D
Squirt P4 in sheath with Tinker.  Having pliers is a good thing.  Having small effective pliers is awesome.  I also get a file, Awl, a variety of smaller drivers in such a compact package.  WIN WIN WIN. 

I dont "need" to carry anything else BUT I want to, sometimes.  So I'll pop a larger SAK in my pocket.  The second it hits the bottom of my pocket I wonder to myself, WHY?  Why am I brining this tool along?  What purpose does it serve? 

I am not a minimalist.  I am not a minimalist.  I say again, I am not a minimalist.  I also don't have to justify to myself why.  But I do and then I take the SAK out and at some point in my day I yet again question why? 

I don't have a point by the way.  If you were thinking I do. 

I will continue to cary my "core" items and when the urge strikes I WILL carry what I want in addition.  Redundancy is for many part of thier system.  Its a system unto itself.  My mind doesn't work that way actually.  I may have said 1 is none and 2 is one but I really dont adhere to that in my day to day.  I don't consciously make the effort to do so. 

Today I will add my Farmer to my mix.  Why?  Because thats why  :salute:

Aloha = always a good read.

I have found myself asking "why do I carry all this stuff" as well. But I continue to do so. Often I find my backpack getting too heavy. I have to remove everything and 'restock it full of only the " must-haves" and get rid of extra weight periodically. So I like the idea behind this thread.

Not familiar with the Manager, but for me, if it is cellidor and on a keychain, it is not bulletproof and it is just a matter of time.

Having plyers IS a good thing. And small, effective ones are smart. I don't have a P4 yet, but if I can find one, I'm gettin it. I may pick up a PS4, if I don't find a P4 soon.

I have never found a 91 mm SAK to be too big in the pocket, probably because I have always had one, and the 91's have ever been the only SAK' s I've ever known until recently. They are the smallest thing I carry, in my mind, even though the PST is comparable, but that come with a sheath.

I cont get past the feeling that the Classic may have originally been deigned for sale with Barbie dolls. The blade seems so thin and shallow, certainly compared to the P4 or PS4, I gave the classic to my dog to wear on his collar. By the way, his leash attachment on his Kurgo red and blue collar also happens to be a bottle opener. So even Scout the ThundahBeagle carries a helpful combo just in case.

When I really want to go "one tool to rule them all", I carry my Leatherman Suge with my red MagLite Solitaire in one of the elastic side pockets of the sheath, and that pretty much covers everything. Minimalist as it is one tool, but not minimalist because of the many components.

Although, I do subscribe to 2=1 and 1=none...I find myself carrying complimentary LM/ SAK combinations, with another such combination in my backpack. Always. Expanding from there is pointless, as I have a toolbox of real tools in my truck, and another at home. On my person, An LM with no scissors, such as the Rebar, is paired with Super Tinker. PST II is paired with Camper II. That type of thing. I like to have both a saw and a scissors along with my plyers. When I carry just the simple Tinker, I could carry the SURGE because it has both saw and scissors, but then, I wouldn't need the Tinker..

Can't seem to go out the door with just a SAK or just a PS4 yet.

Title: Re: Reevaluating my off day carry
Post by: Aloha on November 24, 2017, 02:01:31 PM
Do you know that scene from the 2005 movie Sahara, where Dirk and Al are captured by Tuareg, and Al unloads? One of the funniest movie scenes ever, imo.

I am not familiar with this movie but I will look it up. 
Title: Re: Reevaluating my off day carry
Post by: Aloha on January 04, 2018, 06:09:05 PM
Back again.  Mostly a bit of rambling but then again thats pretty much what I do.  Not much has changed.  Manager on house keys, mini bic in sheath on same keychain, and FenixLD02.  Kinda dangly all on that keychain but not terrible.  Car keys have photon X.  I have my sheath that has LM P4 and 84mm Tinker in pocket thats been a staple now for a while. 

I get bored.  I have added the dedicated blade which is nice to have.  My Delica now has a stripped screw hole.  The pocket clip was loose so I removed it and cleaned the screws and added blue loctight.  One screw just spun.  Aw well its holding on for now and I'll deal with it when the screw falls out.  I have my waved Delica so its not a big deal. 

A few days ago I was rummaging thru my box of tools and located my Skeletool CX.  I'm not sure why I didn't get along with it.  Anyway, I put it in my pocket and what a treat.  I had to add a bit card because it made sense.  I've carried it now for a few days and its come in handy.  I've disassembled a microwave and pulled some nails.  I'll carry it again today cause I anticipate needing it. 

I feel I am a creature of habit so many great tools wont get time.  I want to get back to trying tools just for the experience and for the fun.  While my set up is stable and functional theres no reason why I cannot play a bit.  Oh and I've carried my pioneer a lot lately too. 

Title: Re: Reevaluating my off day carry
Post by: sir_mike on January 04, 2018, 07:25:54 PM
Aloha - always great reads on how your EDC evolves!   :tu:

As you know I recently changed mine from just carrying the Explorer and my Olight to trying out a Champ Plus, P4 and of course the Olight.  Whether I carry the Explorer or Champ Plus, I always use a suspension clip since I don't like the feel in the pocket and with the clip they don't feel as heavy nor do they move around.  I haven't needed to use the P4 plier's yet though!

This combo seems to work okay but I do find that it is more than I want to carry on some days so I have been just pocket carrying a Compact instead of the Champ Plus for the last couple days and find it to be okay but I do prefer sak's with the mag lens/inline philips.  I use those two tool often and just love the inline philips.  I might end up going back to the Explorer since it has those tools and is a smaller form factor compared to the Champ Plus but I will still have to carry it via suspension clip which is kind of a bummer.  Now if you could take a Compact and add the mag/philips layer, then it would be slightly smaller than the Explorer itself and might be just perfect!

As far as full size MT's go, I can't remember the last time I even carried one just as an EDC setup.  I only pack one when I know I am going outside my "urban" environment like hiking or if we are out biking around!

The way I carry these items is by putting the Olight and P4 in watch pocket of jeans and then the sak is suspended or riding in the right front pocket.  I would like to try a leather pouch someday like you made for a sak like the Explorer, the P4 and even the Olight all in one.  That would be pretty cool.  I should see who can make me one for a decent price or google search for one!

Of course, this will change or at least be re-evaluated once Spring/Summer gets here when the shorts come out!  I do know that one of those pouches would also work when wearing shorts! :)
Title: Re: Reevaluating my off day carry
Post by: Aloha on January 04, 2018, 10:42:18 PM
The Explorer Plus is a wonderful SAK.  Its really hard to justify carrying anything else SAK wise if you can carry the layers.  I find myself carrying mine randomly and not carrying my Swisschamp at all.  Its a weird place to be in when I know how awesome my Swisschamp is but I cannot justify it.  My P4 is my constant companion.  I know I'll need or want pliers so it stays.  I wish I would like my Cadet more.  I mean I do but like you I like the mag glass and inline phillis too much. 

I did some minor plumbing today and the Skeletool was invaluable.     
Title: Re: Reevaluating my off day carry
Post by: ThundahBeagle on January 05, 2018, 07:33:20 PM
Hi Aloha

Always interesting to follow your progression. The fact that you have taken to carrying your Explorer over your Champ makes total sense to me, even never having carried either myself.

Who wants to carry 8 layers in the pocket when you can carry 4, and an LM P4?

I don't have any of the tools mentioned, but I have a new PS4 and a Mountaineer. I also have a Tinker Deluxe. Both are 4 layer like the Explorer. That's just about my limit for SAK pocket carry - 4 layers.

And for me, if I were just going to sheath carry a SAK, I'm just upping to a Leatherman anyway

The P4, and by extension the PS4, can, as you say, fit right into the fifth pocket, the ole pocket watch pocket, and you may not even remember it's there until laundry day. And such a great little tool. It's like a Yorkshire Terrier - little, but with a lot of hear and doesn't give up.

The PS4 plyers are far better than those of the Deluxe Tinker or Swisschamp. Between an Explorer or Huntsman or Mountaineer in one pocket and a P(S)4 in the change/ watch pocket, you are pretty well covered.

One day maybe I will seek out an Explorer. I like the idea of corkscrew AND proper Phillips head
Title: Re: Reevaluating my off day carry
Post by: Aloha on February 27, 2018, 05:23:04 PM
Well hello friends and fellow MTOers.  Back again.  Lets see where I am today.  As of my last post I mentioned I get bored but really its about evolving or fine tuning.  Since my last post I've carried my Skeletool CX and Explorer Plus when leaving my home on my off days.  My little sheath has stayed home.  What a powerful combo the Skele and Explorer.  This past Sunday I felt I needed a larger plier and blade as compared to my P4 and 84mm Tinker.  The Skele is just enough tool to get work done without feeling under powered, if you will.  The blade is wonderful, its really a lovely blade in 154cm. 

Scissors.  Dagoneit I have to have them.  I have to.  58mm are great but........  Sigh.  I had a fail.  I was adjusting my blinds and trimming the cord.  My little 58mm just couldn't bite hard enough.  My 91mm snips it like it was thread.  Truth be told my Spirit had a hard time to.  Took two bites to get through.  The scissors on the Spirit IMO are its weakest feature.  I vote for 91mm scissors as a replacement.     

I was also fixing my vertical blinds gearing/wand control assembly that same day.  The blinds wouldn't rotate so I was using my P4 to remove the gear housing when sadly, fail.  The screws were just to tight/wide/hard to turn.  My Skele to the rescue as I put away the Spirit after the fail.  Interesting I'm still learning the P4s limits which is a good thing.  Around the house I tend to carry a MT just because it makes sense for me.  Having the fail at home with the 58mm and P4 is good learning.  I know their limits and can carry accordingly when going out.  I dont hold the fail against the Spirit as I will continue to carry it.

I'm rather surprised I am liking the Skele so much tho.  I've had one since 2013 and just didn't care for it.  When I got the CX I carried it then put it away.  I'm glad I decided to try it again.  I've cut cable wiring tho it took 2 bites.  I've made several adjustments on my lawn mower and around the home with no issues.  Its still a learning process with it but so far so good. 

My P4 and 84mm Tinker aren't in jeopardy just yet.  This combo however has always had limits.       

So where am I?  I like the P4 so that stays.   I am seeing larger scissors do have their place.  Do I bump the 84mm Tinker for my 84mm Golfer yet loose the can opener?  That combo tool is not to my liking.  I have played with the idea that my Executive really fills the niche but still no can opener.  I have learned that scissors on anything less than 91mm are a compromise.   Well, until I gave my Micra a shot.   The Micra is a tool I haven't had much time with.  I've been paying with mine more and more.  The scissors as I use them are rally nice.  More on that as I continue to play.   

Alright enough babble without having said a darn thing.         
Title: Re: Reevaluating my off day carry
Post by: pfrsantos on February 27, 2018, 05:44:55 PM
:worthless:

 :pok: :pok:

Yeah, like you don't know/own the tools you mention...


 :facepalm:
Title: Re: Reevaluating my off day carry
Post by: Aloha on February 27, 2018, 06:09:29 PM
But of course.  No 84mm Golfer.  I like the idea but that combo tool  :twak:.  For now, for today as I prepare to leave the house to run errands.  I will take my Skeletool and Explorer. 
Title: Re: Reevaluating my off day carry
Post by: pfrsantos on February 27, 2018, 06:15:44 PM
But of course.  No 84mm Golfer.  I like the idea but that combo tool  :twak:.  For now, for today as I prepare to leave the house to run errands.  I will take my Skeletool and Explorer.

With those you can make great EDC combos.

 :tu: :tu:
Title: Re: Reevaluating my off day carry
Post by: ThundahBeagle on February 28, 2018, 06:01:17 AM
Great thread Aloha.

We are accustomed to tools and having a certain amount of metal around our middle. Truth is, unless it's a cellphone, most everyone else isn't.

I've been finding that a PS4 in the coin pocket + a Camper (or you could use a Farmer) in a front pocket + Micra on the keychain...is a very capable and unobtrusive combination. No single piece jumps out at me as being out of place, nor are these tools flimsy.
Title: Re: Reevaluating my off day carry
Post by: Aloha on February 28, 2018, 06:48:41 AM
I agree those are a very capable trio of tools.  I haven't given my Micra much of a chance.  I've always seen it as purely scissors.  I think for me I tend to gravitate to tools with outside accessibility.  Having to open a Micra in the greater scheme isn't a big deal but I'm all for convenience. 

Title: Re: Reevaluating my off day carry
Post by: Aloha on June 06, 2018, 06:00:13 PM
Hello all.  Its been a bit since my last post here.  Lets get right into it. 

I am still a huge fan of my Leatherman Squirt P4.  Theres just no way around it, the tool performs!  While I don't always need a full size plier I like have something more than just my finger tips.  The P4 also has some nice implements on board. 

Pocket Wrench 2.  This is a great tool.  Its a multitool which makes it worth carrying.  Its flat, so find space for it is easy enough.  I am a firm believer in having a dedicated pry tool with me at all times.   

Fenix LD02.  If you have one then you understand how simple and nice a light it is.  3 modes activated my a tail click.  It has a pocket clip which can be reversed so the light can be clipped to the bill of a hat. 

SAK.  Theres been a new development here.  My 84mm Tinker was my go to.  I played around with my Cadet 2 as well.  I even tried my 84mm Golfer.  Then it just happened, the stars aligned, the SAK Gods presented me with my 84mm Super Tinker/Salesman....  << sounds of harps, angelic music >>.  Oh boy!  I am pretty stoked and have been since getting it over the weekend.  I tried to like the combo tool.  I tried to do without a fuller sized scissor.  What can I say, the 84mm Golfer while nice, misses the mark for me.  The Cadet 2 is without scissors.  For now, my new to me precious will be my go to.   

So there you go.  Not much changed for the most part.  The tools above represent my faithful companions that I don't question capability or dependability.  They are proven time and time again.  I don't believe I'll need to "test" the 84mm Stinker/Salesman so I think the above statement holds true for it even tho its new to me.   

   
Title: Re: Reevaluating my off day carry
Post by: Aloha on June 06, 2018, 06:28:41 PM
I have 2 keychains.  One is for car keys and one my house keys. 

My house key chain is on a Victorinox belt hanger.  I really like this way to carry my keys.  I dont like clipping keys to my belt loop.  On my house key chain are, house keys (2), 2 pill fobs, faux ton light, and most importantly my Fenix LD02 and Manager.  There have been unchanged for a long while.  I do want to change out the cheap light but since I have my Fenix LD02 its not a priority.  My Manger also serves as my pen when I need one.   

My car key chain is a Leatherman Biner.  I was using a niteize biner but since I had this I wanted to try it out.  Its been really nice but larger than I need.  I may switch back to the niteize biner.  On my car keychain are, my car key and alarm fob, camper top keys (2), Photon X light, Leatherman #5.  Typically when I leave I am off to work so the Leatherman #5 serves as my work pry tool/scraper.   

If I am running errands its nice to have a dedicated pry tool.  In this scenario I leave my PW2 at home.  If I am sticking close to home then I won't have my keychains with me so my PW2 my go to pry tool.  Hope that made sense.

 

   
Title: Re: Reevaluating my off day carry
Post by: pfrsantos on June 06, 2018, 06:47:04 PM
Stinker?! You may not like it, but there's no need to be rude...

 :whistle:
Title: Re: Reevaluating my off day carry
Post by: pfrsantos on June 06, 2018, 06:49:53 PM
Does that leather Vic pouch have a hole for the light? The cut-out is to allow you can press the light button, right? Can the light be used without taking the SAK out?

Title: Re: Reevaluating my off day carry
Post by: Aloha on June 06, 2018, 06:53:45 PM
This whole thread began when I decided I didn't need to carry a full size MT on my day off.  I like to carry something on me even when at home.  I wanted something easy to carry when running errands.  Its been fun trying things and seeing what works.   

So far my Squirt P4, PW2, Fenix LD02, and 84mm S.Tinker/Salesman have proven worthy of off day carry.  I am not a full time pocket knife guy.  I like having one but usually my MT serves as my pocket knife on work days.  Since I am not carrying a MT on my off days I still wanted a knife that could serve multiple purposes.  My SAK has 2 blades and my P4 has one.  Yes I could get by with 3 blades but I wanted something OHO.  I look around a thought a Dragonfly would be a great choice.  I was incredibly stunned and super thankful by the generosity of NIX  :2tu: :hatsoff:  who gifted me a Dragonfly. 

This knife has proved to be everything I had wanted in a knife for my days off.  I know a lot of you don't require a OHO knife but I am in the opposite camp, I love a OHO knife.  I absolutely love this Dragonfly.  I carry it clipped to my shirt pocket.  Its really a "little BIG knife".  My 84mm SAK is more of a razor blade for me, knife wise.  I live in California for those that may not know.  I am legally allowed to carry any sized folder I want.  I live in a city with a lot of military which means a lot of guys who carry and use knives.  I am not worried about people giving my looks when I use a knife BUT I tend to be discreet non the less.  The Dragonfly can be taken out of my shirt pocket and used, put away, all without the slightest of looks.  Its size lends itself to discreetness.  My 84mm is actually a tad longer tho the shape of the Dragonflys blade is wider.  I do know ZDP can get crazy sharp.  I've only stropped the blade and its been a joy.  The tip is a needle.  This knifes ease of carry and utility on my off days has been a true joy. 

My humblest thanks to NIX.   :hatsoff: :2tu:

     
Title: Re: Reevaluating my off day carry
Post by: Aloha on June 06, 2018, 07:11:34 PM
The next process was how would I carry my off day tools.  I made a sheath for my Squirt and Tinker.  I liked it very much especially since it held both tools very compactly.  The only issue was where would I keep my PW2 and light when I was home?   I leave my PW2 and Fenix at home when off and needing to run errands since I have my Leatherman #5 and Fenix on my key chain set ups.  At home however the PW2 and Fenix needed a spot in my pocket or ?

I have a Skinth that was a viable option.  I guess I could have tossed everything into my pockets?  Naw, I dont like that Idea.  The Skinth is nice and holds everything.  Its got a belt clip so its easy on and easy off.  Not as compact as my pocket sheath but again it holds everything.  I've bounced back an forth between the two carry options and haven't declared a winner just yet.  When I do carry my home made pocket sheath I put the SAK in my coin pocket or just directly into my pocket.  The Fenix I either clip to my shirt pocket or put in my coin pocket with the cap slightly unscrewed in case of accidental activation.     
Title: Re: Reevaluating my off day carry
Post by: Aloha on June 06, 2018, 07:12:06 PM
Stinker?! You may not like it, but there's no need to be rude...

 :whistle:

 :rofl:  affectionately known as Stinker. 
Title: Re: Reevaluating my off day carry
Post by: Aloha on June 06, 2018, 07:13:58 PM
Does that leather Vic pouch have a hole for the light? The cut-out is to allow you can press the light button, right? Can the light be used without taking the SAK out?

There is a "hole" in the front.  I think you are right, its possible for the light activation.  My guess is the sheath is meant for a LED 58mm.  My Manager doesnt have a LED but I like how the shield shows thru the hole. 
Title: Re: Reevaluating my off day carry
Post by: pfrsantos on June 06, 2018, 07:20:57 PM
Does that leather Vic pouch have a hole for the light? The cut-out is to allow you can press the light button, right? Can the light be used without taking the SAK out?

There is a "hole" in the front.  I think you are right, its possible for the light activation.  My guess is the sheath is meant for a LED 58mm.  My Manager doesnt have a LED but I like how the shield shows thru the hole.

Probably it's meant for it. I must try to make a similar pouch for my Midnite Manager. The pouch I use now is meant for Classics, I need a wider one and, if I can get it to let me use the light, without taking the knife out, that'll be nice, too.

 8) 8)
Title: Re: Reevaluating my off day carry
Post by: Aloha on June 06, 2018, 07:37:45 PM
Last but not least is my choice for........  Idiots :think:  :D.  I have not used it nor intend on it nor want to but there are plenty of idiots that come and go in and around us.  I'm pretty level headed and very easy going.  I manage to avoid BS since I am not one to engage with stupid people.  It really would have to be a situation that demanded use. 

I have one in my vehicle keep close at hand and one I have been keeping on my belt.  I struggled with how to carry it and pocket carry just wasn't working nor did it seem a good idea IF I needed it in a hurry.  I have a simple ranger band ( bike inner tube ) cut and placed on my belt.  The canister attaches very securely with little or no imprint.  I am legally allowed to carry a certain amount of pepper spray and while this canister looks large it falls within the legal parameters.  I'm a lefty so its carried on my left side just forward of my left front pocket.  No issues getting my wallet out ( I carry my wallet front left pocket ). 

Pepper spray may not be your thing but its a little bit of piece of mind for me.  I also got my girls and friends some too.  I had one incident where I reached for it but I quickly assessed the idiot and realized he was drunk and no threat.     
Title: Re: Reevaluating my off day carry
Post by: Aloha on June 06, 2018, 07:40:44 PM
Does that leather Vic pouch have a hole for the light? The cut-out is to allow you can press the light button, right? Can the light be used without taking the SAK out?

There is a "hole" in the front.  I think you are right, its possible for the light activation.  My guess is the sheath is meant for a LED 58mm.  My Manager doesnt have a LED but I like how the shield shows thru the hole.

Probably it's meant for it. I must try to make a similar pouch for my Midnite Manager. The pouch I use now is meant for Classics, I need a wider one and, if I can get it to let me use the light, without taking the knife out, that'll be nice, too.

 8) 8)

This came with a Classic.  I wet formed it to fit my Manager.  Its snug but comes out easy enough without worry it'll come out.  I have had it on my keys now for a good while with no issues.  I tried to make one but mine came out too large.  I love the sheaths you made so I think you can make a nice one for your Midnight Manger. 
Title: Re: Reevaluating my off day carry
Post by: ThePeacent on June 06, 2018, 08:09:22 PM
Last but not least is my choice for........  Idiots :think:  :D.  I have not used it nor intend on it nor want to but there are plenty of idiots that come and go in and around us.  I'm pretty level headed and very easy going.  I manage to avoid BS since I am not one to engage with stupid people.  It really would have to be a situation that demanded use. 

I have one in my vehicle keep close at hand and one I have been keeping on my belt.  I struggled with how to carry it and pocket carry just wasn't working nor did it seem a good idea IF I needed it in a hurry.  I have a simple ranger band ( bike inner tube ) cut and placed on my belt.  The canister attaches very securely with little or no imprint.  I am legally allowed to carry a certain amount of pepper spray and while this canister looks large it falls within the legal parameters.  I'm a lefty so its carried on my left side just forward of my left front pocket.  No issues getting my wallet out ( I carry my wallet front left pocket ). 

Pepper spray may not be your thing but its a little bit of piece of mind for me.  I also got my girls and friends some too.  I had one incident where I reached for it but I quickly assessed the idiot and realized he was drunk and no threat.     

well done, I also carry one and used it once only, might have saved my life.
I also made a sheath for it (also fits Juice sized tools) with hard plastic tube, heat and a belt loop I added, will try not to hijack your thread too much with my pics  :whistle:

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(https://i.imgur.com/KzwToNB.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/4oDz4xq.jpg)

the spray is sabre brand, carried often at 11 in the belt

(https://i.imgur.com/1oDnQ5f.jpg)

wise choice in today's world. :salute:  And all the oher gear you carry,  8) :like: kewl as usual! :tu:
Title: Re: Reevaluating my off day carry
Post by: Aloha on June 06, 2018, 10:25:54 PM
Pictures are more than welcomed.  I like to see how and what others carry, especially gear thats time tested and carried interestingly.  The pepper spray is good till 2021, as Sabre gave it a exp date.  When that time comes like any old unused pepper sprays go, we'll spray them.  We've recently used up some old ones going thru a mock dog attack.  Its fun to run thru "what ifs" especially to see how quickly we can draw and spray.  When I cycled I was often chased by dogs and had a water bottle ready for them.  Water + Vinegar + Hot pepper = back the eff off.  Worked well enough to not need anything else. 

 
Title: Re: Reevaluating my off day carry
Post by: Gareth on June 07, 2018, 11:57:47 AM
Great stuff mate.  :tu:  My light duty carry hasn't changed much if I'm honest. 

The Vic Rambler has just lived on my keys for months and I've basically no reason to change it. 

For a pair of pliers I've played with a Gerber Dime that I like the pliers and bottle opener on, but it's still never going to replace my Squirt P4 as the rest of the Dime I find a bit....meh. :shrug:

For a light then I just can't get past my Eagletac D25A clicky, though if I'm going seriously light the Nitecore Tube is excellent. 

For a slightly bigger blade I've been a bit more varied.  I've been using a mix of 84mm SAKs and traditional knives.  Vic Sportsman and Case Mini Trapper likely topping the bill.
Title: Re: Reevaluating my off day carry
Post by: pfrsantos on June 07, 2018, 12:34:02 PM
Does that leather Vic pouch have a hole for the light? The cut-out is to allow you can press the light button, right? Can the light be used without taking the SAK out?

There is a "hole" in the front.  I think you are right, its possible for the light activation.  My guess is the sheath is meant for a LED 58mm.  My Manager doesnt have a LED but I like how the shield shows thru the hole.

Probably it's meant for it. I must try to make a similar pouch for my Midnite Manager. The pouch I use now is meant for Classics, I need a wider one and, if I can get it to let me use the light, without taking the knife out, that'll be nice, too.

 8) 8)

This came with a Classic.  I wet formed it to fit my Manager.  Its snug but comes out easy enough without worry it'll come out.  I have had it on my keys now for a good while with no issues.  I tried to make one but mine came out too large.  I love the sheaths you made so I think you can make a nice one for your Midnight Manger.

Thanks, man! If/when I get one done, I'll post the pics/specs here.

 :salute: :tu:
Title: Re: Reevaluating my off day carry
Post by: temo on June 07, 2018, 12:43:19 PM
I found squirt ps4 and freestyle very light carry and a good set of tools. Example I needed to assemble latters I could use ps to hold a bolt while used freestyle to tie a nut. But also always thinking other options :) Both freestyle and squirt are light so can't push pliers too much. But for heavier options need to upgrade to heavier carry. For hold and tie type of tasks I think keychain tool is good to have even bigger tool have drivers and pliers as well.

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Title: Re: Reevaluating my off day carry
Post by: powernoodle on June 07, 2018, 02:05:15 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/F0p0hDs.jpg)

- Ruger EC9s in an Aliengear Cloak Slide OWB holster:  I always carry a firearm, and usually a single stack 9mm that hits that sweet spot between utility and ease of carry
- Victorinox nail clipper:  folds flat; case prevents pocket from getting shredded
- Explorer Plus:  favorite SAK; tons of utility.  Love the inline phillips like God intended for mankind.
- mini Sharpie: until you carry one, you don't realize how often you'll use it
- Spyderco Dragonfly:  quick deployment for most cutting tasks
- Streamlight Stylus Pro: long runtime, 2xAAA Eneloop, simple on/off functionality.  Works when you needed it.
- Knipex 6" pliers wrench: amazing tool that replaces a toolbox full of crescent and adjustable wrenches; sometimes carry the smaller 5".  Smooth jaws remain parallel throughout their range of motion.
- Maxpedition phone holster with top strap removed (carries a Samsung J7, which provides most of the functionality of the high end Samsungs at 25% of the cost).

The nail clipper, Explorer Plus, Sharpie, Dragonfly and Stylus Pro ride in my LF pocket; Knipex in my RF or verticle pocket on 5.11 Taclite Pro pants.  Gun and phone on belt under t-shirt.  I am accustomed to this setup, and don't notice that I'm carrying anything.  The time-tested core of this EDC are the Explorer Plus, Sharpie, Dragonfly and Stylus Pro.
Title: Re: Reevaluating my off day carry
Post by: Aloha on June 07, 2018, 03:11:55 PM
I found squirt ps4 and freestyle very light carry and a good set of tools. Example I needed to assemble latters I could use ps to hold a bolt while used freestyle to tie a nut. But also always thinking other options :) Both freestyle and squirt are light so can't push pliers too much. But for heavier options need to upgrade to heavier carry. For hold and tie type of tasks I think keychain tool is good to have even bigger tool have drivers and pliers as well.

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I've played around and carried my Skeletool CX which is a nice plier and has the bit driver.  When I do carry it I feel the need to also carry a bit card.  I know the 2 bits with the Skeletool are plenty but having that bit driver just screams carry a bit card.  I have left all of my day off tools home and just carried the Skeletool and PW2.  I did feel very comfortable with that combo.  The PW is a great companion to a plier based tool.  You can hold a bolt while you tighten with a plier.  You can also tighten one too.  It has the 1/4 hole for bits too.  Its really a terrific tool.  I probably should have said I like to carry a dedicated pry tool but it must perform more functions than just prying.  My Leatherman #5 can also tighten nuts and bolts but honestly, not as well as my PW2.

 
Title: Re: Reevaluating my off day carry
Post by: Aloha on June 07, 2018, 03:18:58 PM
Great stuff mate.  :tu:  My light duty carry hasn't changed much if I'm honest. 

The Vic Rambler has just lived on my keys for months and I've basically no reason to change it. 

For a pair of pliers I've played with a Gerber Dime that I like the pliers and bottle opener on, but it's still never going to replace my Squirt P4 as the rest of the Dime I find a bit....meh. :shrug:

For a light then I just can't get past my Eagletac D25A clicky, though if I'm going seriously light the Nitecore Tube is excellent. 

For a slightly bigger blade I've been a bit more varied.  I've been using a mix of 84mm SAKs and traditional knives.  Vic Sportsman and Case Mini Trapper likely topping the bill.

Glad to hear the tools have continued to prove themselves.  I also had a Dime but the P4 is IMO just a better tool.  Having a 58mm on a keychain to me is a no brainer.  You get a great pair of scissors plus some scale tools.  The little blade is a razor blade which is very handy to have.  The D25A has served you very well.  While I have nothing but love for my Fenix LD02 during the winter darker months I will grab my Zebralight or Olight S1R.  I've lit up a parking lot with them.  I grocery shop at a small store nearby that has dim lights.  I've gotten out of my car and boom lit that place up.  I also light it up when return got my car to load in groceries.  I put the S1R on my hat light a headlamp.  I just love lights that have clips than can do that.   
Title: Re: Reevaluating my off day carry
Post by: Aloha on June 07, 2018, 03:37:59 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/F0p0hDs.jpg)

- Ruger EC9s in an Aliengear Cloak Slide OWB holster:  I always carry a firearm, and usually a single stack 9mm that hits that sweet spot between utility and ease of carry
- Victorinox nail clipper:  folds flat; case prevents pocket from getting shredded
- Explorer Plus:  favorite SAK; tons of utility.  Love the inline phillips like God intended for mankind.
- mini Sharpie: until you carry one, you don't realize how often you'll use it
- Spyderco Dragonfly:  quick deployment for most cutting tasks
- Streamlight Stylus Pro: long runtime, 2xAAA Eneloop, simple on/off functionality.  Works when you needed it.
- Knipex 6" pliers wrench: amazing tool that replaces a toolbox full of crescent and adjustable wrenches; sometimes carry the smaller 5".  Smooth jaws remain parallel throughout their range of motion.
- Maxpedition phone holster with top strap removed (carries a Samsung J7, which provides most of the functionality of the high end Samsungs at 25% of the cost).

The nail clipper, Explorer Plus, Sharpie, Dragonfly and Stylus Pro ride in my LF pocket; Knipex in my RF or verticle pocket on 5.11 Taclite Pro pants.  Gun and phone on belt under t-shirt.  I am accustomed to this setup, and don't notice that I'm carrying anything.  The time-tested core of this EDC are the Explorer Plus, Sharpie, Dragonfly and Stylus Pro.

Getting conceal carry permit her in SoCal is like winning the lotto, probably harder.  I'd probably get one but thats a whole other story.  I agree the Explorer Plus is a wonderful SAK.  It really has everything you could want in a pocket knife.  My core tools aside, I do like to add in things from time to time because its fun and because I like certain tools.  The Explorer Plus is one of them,  I now have 2, one old style and one new style.  Mini sharpie!!!!  Preach brother, preach.  I am a convert to the mini sharpie.  I tried to buy cheap knock off mini sharpies but never again.  I may have even posted about it.  I have one on my tool belt for work, one in my vehicle, and while I don't actually carry one on off days regularly I do add one to my keychain from time to time.  I may need to just keep it on there.  I put a dot of superglue in the little cap above the cap so it doesnt pop off my keys.  I've had a couple run away.  Can the Dragonfly really be the best EDC knife?  For me, yes.  I like that orange color a lot.  I'm glad I'm late to the Dragonfly party.  I've seen a few I'd probably would have bought instead of all the MTs I did.  The HAP40, a purple one, V-Toku2 and SUS 310 Laminate Blade, etc.  Would have been a neat collection. 

Finding a set of go to tools does make carrying them easy.  I like knowing each of my tools capabilities and how hard I can push them.  I know when I can help and when to back away. 
Title: Re: Reevaluating my off day carry
Post by: powernoodle on June 07, 2018, 05:29:17 PM
Those mini Sharpies are only available during "back to school" days, so I buy several in August and then use them throughout the year.  I have Dragonflies in black, orange, purple, yellow (serrated in H1 steel) and G10.  They are one of my favorites of all time due to their utility to size ratio, performance and aesthetics.  Hard to beat in an EDC knife.

(https://i.imgur.com/0v8AQfX.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/hynUn7L.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/BQLGPNa.jpg)

https://www.spyderco.com/catalog/details.php?product=665

Title: Re: Reevaluating my off day carry
Post by: Aloha on June 07, 2018, 05:30:48 PM
 :dd:
Title: Re: Reevaluating my off day carry
Post by: pfrsantos on June 07, 2018, 05:43:25 PM
 :drool: :drool: :drool: :drool:
Title: Re: Reevaluating my off day carry
Post by: Aloha on June 08, 2018, 03:36:00 PM
Left the house yesterday so here's what I carried.  As usual I had my house keys which always has my Fenix LD02 and Manager.  While at home I had what you see in the picture minus the Zebralight, plus my pocket wrench 2.  As I prepared to leave I left my PW2 and grabbed my ZL.  I think I'm going to find a way to add to my pouch for my PW2. 
Title: Re: Reevaluating my off day carry
Post by: Aloha on August 27, 2018, 06:35:24 PM
Looks like my fine tuning is just that, fine tuning.  With the addition of my Salesman my off day carry seems complete.  I've been having some fun tho carrying my CRKT Texas Toothpick.  Its not instead of, its in addition to what I carry.  A fun knife solely for food. 

My carry yesterday while off was P4, Salesman, Manager, LD02 and PW2.  Its been an fun journey to this point.  I dont suspect things will change much.  Who knows tho. 

 
Title: Re: Reevaluating my off day carry
Post by: Singh on August 31, 2018, 08:15:13 PM
The less I carry in my pockets, the better.

Wallet, keys, phone, SAK and a light.

There's a toolbox in my car if I need more than that.
Title: Re: Reevaluating my off day carry
Post by: Aloha on October 08, 2018, 06:01:22 PM
Really enjoying my Salesman.  Its working our great.  My P4 is unstoppable.  I really like that tool.  I could almost just carry it, almost.  There has been some slight, very slight disruption.  I happened upon a Wenger Pocket Tool Chest.  What a SAK.  Can we have it all?  IF, if only it had a pen  :dd:.  That would un seat my Manager in a NY sec.  Well,  :think:. 

So, what I have been doing is carrying it ( PTC ) along with my Manager.  Certainly seems redundant but goodness how do I leave it at home?  My keychain as you've all seen if you've followed along has my Manager and a LD02 permanently attached.  That keychain has my house key and 2 pill fobs.  I have my car keys which are separate.  On it I have a Photon X and now my PTC.  I honestly don't want or need both small tools.  The PTC will eventually have to go. 

Go where  :dunno:.   I harken back to a simpler time.   

For now its not a terrible bother.  Its a super cool SAK that beckons me to carry it. 
Title: Re: Reevaluating my off day carry
Post by: AimlessWanderer on October 08, 2018, 06:07:55 PM
Really enjoying my Salesman.  Its working our great.  My P4 is unstoppable.  I really like that tool.  I could almost just carry it, almost.  There has been some slight, very slight disruption.  I happened upon a Wenger Pocket Tool Chest.  What a SAK.  Can we have it all?  IF, if only it had a pen  :dd:.  That would un seat my Manager in a NY sec.  Well,  :think:. 

So, what I have been doing is carrying it ( PTC ) along with my Manager.  Certainly seems redundant but goodness how do I leave it at home?  My keychain as you've all seen if you've followed along has my Manager and a LD02 permanently attached.  That keychain has my house key and 2 pill fobs.  I have my car keys which are separate.  On it I have a Photon X and now my PTC.  I honestly don't want or need both small tools.  The PTC will eventually have to go. 

Go where  :dunno:.   I harken back to a simpler time.   

For now its not a terrible bother.  Its a super cool SAK that beckons me to carry it.

If the only obstacle to carrying the PTC is a pen, check out something like the True Utility Telepen.
Title: Re: Reevaluating my off day carry
Post by: Aloha on October 08, 2018, 06:12:12 PM
Thanks.  The PTC is really an eye opener.  I've heard several of you praise it.  I am slow but I do come around. 
Title: Re: Reevaluating my off day carry
Post by: Aloha on April 29, 2019, 06:46:27 PM
Back again.  The more things change the more they stay the same?  Is that right  :dunno:.  The more things stay the same the more I change them......   Ok, I'm just ruining perfectly good sayings  :facepalm:

Where am I?  Keychain items are stable, Manager and LD02 remain.  I did add a mini Bic lighter and my Wenger Pocket Tool Chest to my carry.  I put both into a small sheath I made for something else.  We'll see if I end up reaching for them.  I'm not a "what if" carry type.  I thought the PTC would be a nice small SAK that complimented the Manger. 

My car keys still have the Photon X and LM #4.  The Photon is such a nice little light.  I've now changed the batteries twice.  I get a lot of use from that little light. 

My other carry items have changed.  My pocket sheath with my Salesman and Squirt aren't carried as much.  Not sure what happened.  Great SAK but...........   :dunno:.

I won a Skinth and so this changed my carry a lot.  I have always like my Explorer.  Adding plus scales to any SAK makes sense to me and my Explorer has them.  While my Fenix LD02 is a great light and I have my Photon X as well those live on a keychain that I don't always have on me.  The Skinth has side pockets that fit my Squirt and a AAA light as well as my Explorer.  This makes it a no brainier for me to carry this set up vs my pocket sheath set up. 

I loose nothing with my Explorer vs Salesman.  I gain some in fact, PEN/PIN for starters and the amazing inline phillips not to forget the mag glass.  Using the Skinth I can also now easily house my Pocket Wrench 2. 

If I go somewhere I need to leave sharps in my vehicle I can still carry my PW2 and light in pocket. 

I have also been playing around with ball chain carry.  My idea was to have a light and tool with me that were small yet capable.  I got a second Manager and so this plus one of my  Foursevens AAA lights ( ATOM or Preon ) nicely works.  I recently went to an arena where no knives were allowed.  I easily took off my Manager yet still was able to carry my light in.  I saw lots of people going back to their vehicles having been turned away for items deemed unwelcome.

My Skeletool CX has continued to be a nice tool to carry when I really want to be at the most basic yet capable on my off days.  I've played around with a few other carry ideas and tools but like I've mentioned my goal was not minimal carry more than optimizing what I carry. 

Pic forthcoming. 

   
Title: Re: Reevaluating my off day carry
Post by: AimlessWanderer on April 29, 2019, 07:56:59 PM
 :popcorn:
Title: Re: Reevaluating my off day carry
Post by: Gareth on April 30, 2019, 12:15:40 AM
 :tu:
Title: Re: Reevaluating my off day carry
Post by: Gareth on April 30, 2019, 12:18:14 AM
While I've not tried the Photon X I would say that for the same kind of money you can get the excellent Nitecore Tube.  No need to buy any batteries ever again.  ;)
Title: Re: Reevaluating my off day carry
Post by: Gareth on April 30, 2019, 12:24:19 AM
My little group of light, SAK and mini pliers.  (D25A, Golfer and P4)
Title: Re: Reevaluating my off day carry
Post by: Aloha on April 30, 2019, 03:52:03 PM
While I've not tried the Photon X I would say that for the same kind of money you can get the excellent Nitecore Tube.  No need to buy any batteries ever again.  ;)

I bought it a while ago so I use it.  I have however looked at the Tube extensively.  Excellent point on the batteries tho  :tu:.
Title: Re: Reevaluating my off day carry
Post by: Aloha on April 30, 2019, 04:11:39 PM
Your group is wonderful.  Simple and effective.   
Title: Re: Reevaluating my off day carry
Post by: Aloha on April 30, 2019, 04:46:02 PM
I've had the Photon X for a while.  I think since 2012-23 and in that time I've changed the batteries twice.  It activated and drained the batteries the first time which prompted me to take it off my keychain.  I then switched it to my car keys and have been happy with it since. 

The LM#4 is my pry tool plus it has the added feature of the driver bit.  I like having a small pry tool.  The Manager in sheath ain't going no where.  Its been bomb proof plus I have a back up just in case.  The mini Bic lighter and PTC are new carry items.  I really tried to find a purpose for the PTC.  I actually carried it on my ball chain set up and liked it but I think I am just a sucker for the Manager.  It may go back on the ball chain.  The lighter is a light and easy to carry even in the sheath.  Without the PTC in the sheath its really very easy to forget I have it.  We'll see how it goes.  So far tho, it stays.

This is the Skinth that I won.  This set up has bumped my Salesman and Squirt pocket sheath out of my carry system. I was able to add my PW2 which I was "struggling" to find a way to carry anyway.  This is a nice compact-ish way to carry my liked items.  Pockets are free which is nice.

The ball chain set up is something I've tried in the past.  Not sure why I abandoned it.  AW kinda sparked my interest in trying it again.  I like this simple carry of a Manager and Preon or Atom.  As I said I may go with my PTC but we'll see. 

 
 

   
Title: Re: Reevaluating my off day carry
Post by: Aloha on April 30, 2019, 04:55:51 PM
Pics of my LM#4, Photon X, Mini Bic, Manager, and PTC. 

I forgot my Fenix LD02 but its still there with my Manager in sheath.  Those are on my house keys.  They've been there for a while and will remain.  My LM#4 and Photon are on my vehicle keys.  The Photon has been there a little while now and the LM#4 replaced my LM#5.  Just wanted to try something else.  I like a pry tool. 

The Bic and PTC dangle from my vehicle keys as well.  May seem like a lot but weight wise its fine.  I have it so I can detach as needed for those times I go somewhere where knives are frowned upon.   
Title: Re: Reevaluating my off day carry
Post by: Aloha on October 08, 2019, 05:06:23 PM
There've been some changes but not drastic.  I find myself liking so many things that I want to carry them.  My inner gear junkie wanting to take over sometimes.  I am not carrying a full size MT still.  Its the one tool that seems to always get left behind. 

Wallet is the same Nixon wallet.  The only thing new is the little pouch that contains a crystal.  I found the orange 7 strand  paracord recently and played around with a knot.  I liked it so I used it to secure my wallet to my Vic belt clip. 

Keys are on my Keysmart Pro.  I am still loving this key organizer.  I use the flashlight all the time.  I've recharged it now several times since getting it.  Its helped my organize and remain jingle free for the most part.  I added my Leatherman #4 which I really like.  I couldn't find a happy place for my vehicle key so I went back to my NiteIze biner.  I have my photon x and pill container.  Its as simple as I like.

Skinth sheath is perfect for pretty much the bulk of what I want to carry.  These items seem to be the perfect compromise of utility and function for me.  I loved my 84mm Salesman but, and because of that but I went back to my Explorer plus. 

Bandana and kerchief.  These items may not get talked about as often as tools but they are always with me.  My little first aid pouch is a simple boo boo kit. 

My Manager in sheath.  This somehow got lost in the shuffle of my key set up.  I've left it behind for now and truly I've missed it.  Not just emotional miss but usefulness miss.  There are just times when a little 58mm is the prefect tool for the job.  I've got to figure out where I want it. 

When I am in the mood to carry addition cutlery the Spyderco gets the first call to duty.  Its been such a fantastic knife that I need little reason to carry it.  Once in a while I will carry my BM MiniGrip.  I use the BM for work mostly.  I do bring it with me for off days especially when going to box stores to pick up material for home projects. 

My Zebralight and Olight are strong so as the days are shorter they will get the call.  I do carry my Olight at home a lot more these days.  When I get home I empty my pockets of work tool and refill with home tools  :D.  Come on I know some of you do the same. 

Fixed blades choices have grown.  I do like to carry a fixed blade.  I am currently carrying a Jumpmaster 2 for work so for off days I like these choices.  The Contego is new to me and I am really liking it a lot.  The BM Nimravus is a fun knife to carry, tactical but useful.  My RAT is a favorite for sure and sees a lot of belt time.  Last but not least is my Esee.  Man I love this little knife.  I carry it for work as well.  Its such a sweet little knife that I find myself wanting to carry it all the time.   
Title: Re: Reevaluating my off day carry
Post by: Aloha on October 08, 2019, 05:08:05 PM
Opps meant to post wallet first. 
Title: Re: Reevaluating my off day carry
Post by: Aloha on October 08, 2019, 05:12:50 PM
I get to use a lot of stuff at work so off day carry is always being evaluated.  The more new to me items the more I want to carry them on and off work days.  The way I do it is I carry items when at home.  As I mentioned when I come home from work I empty my work gear and replace with things I like to carry at home.  Off day carry are items shown above when I will leave home for errands or outings.  Some off day items cross over to just hanging at home. 

I have some lovely gear that I like but way too much to try to carry.  Breaking it up into these three situations makes it easy to carry all the things I like. 

Maybe next I'll post about what I carry at home when I am putzing around. 
Title: Re: Reevaluating my off day carry
Post by: Rapidray on October 08, 2019, 07:40:11 PM
That SAK leather holder is nice and especially with the cut so the shield is showing!  :like: :cheers:
Title: Re: Reevaluating my off day carry
Post by: ToolJoe on October 17, 2019, 05:24:52 AM
I haven't found a better combo than Vic Spirit/Maglite Solitaire LED.
Title: Re: Reevaluating my off day carry
Post by: AimlessWanderer on October 18, 2019, 12:33:13 AM
Everyday is an off-day for me now, and the deluxe tinker handles most of them with ease
Title: Re: Reevaluating my off day carry
Post by: Aloha on October 18, 2019, 12:35:35 AM
Good to hear the DT is working out. 
Title: Re: Reevaluating my off day carry
Post by: Rapidray on October 18, 2019, 12:44:50 AM
Everyday is an off-day for me now, and the deluxe tinker handles most of them with ease
Oh, are you retired too?
Title: Re: Reevaluating my off day carry
Post by: AimlessWanderer on October 18, 2019, 12:59:44 AM
Oh, are you retired too?

Kind of. Disability rather than age
Title: Re: Reevaluating my off day carry
Post by: Rapidray on October 18, 2019, 01:13:31 AM
Kind of. Disability rather than age
Awww...everyday is Saturday!  :cheers:
Title: Re: Reevaluating my off day carry
Post by: AimlessWanderer on October 18, 2019, 05:05:38 AM
Yeah, everyday feels like a bad hangover  :D
Title: Re: Reevaluating my off day carry
Post by: Aloha on October 18, 2019, 05:59:19 AM
I sure hope thats not the case AW  :(.  I carried my Deluxe Tinker quite a lot when I got it.  Its a wonderful SAK no doubt.  I went to the market tonight and stopped to get a bite to eat before hand so I wasn't hungry at the store.  I've made that mistake a few times and learned my lesson. 

I carried my Wenger Pocket Tool Chest and Zebralight.  It was great.  I used it to snip the wrapper off a candy for my partner.  When we got home we repacked the items for the freezer and used the main blade to cut the container open.  Light was used to see on side yard to bring bins in. 
Title: Re: Reevaluating my off day carry
Post by: AimlessWanderer on October 18, 2019, 06:43:22 AM
I sure hope thats not the case AW  :(.


Sadly, yes. A lot of it's the meds though, it can leave me pretty "numb" mentally for the first few hours, assuming I slept (not happening tonight). Then it's the usual lucky dip of balance disorder, visual and auditory weirdness, migraines, communication difficulties and sensory calibration errors, or any combination thereof, striking at inopportune moments. Every day's a lottery, some you win, some you lose  :D

I carried my Deluxe Tinker quite a lot when I got it.  Its a wonderful SAK no doubt.  I went to the market tonight and stopped to get a bite to eat before hand so I wasn't hungry at the store.  I've made that mistake a few times and learned my lesson. 

Made that mistake FAR too many times. Internet shopping can be as bad. Before you click checkout, get a bite to each and a drink (the drink is important too, for the same reason). I wish I'd learned that years ago  :rofl:

I carried my Wenger Pocket Tool Chest and Zebralight.  It was great.  I used it to snip the wrapper off a candy for my partner.  When we got home we repacked the items for the freezer and used the main blade to cut the container open.  Light was used to see on side yard to bring bins in.

Still a huge fan of the Wenger Tool Chest... and a huge hater of the Zebralights  :P In fact that damn thing might be what caused all these neurological problems in the first place  :D
Title: Re: Reevaluating my off day carry
Post by: Rapidray on October 18, 2019, 03:40:42 PM
 :iagree: I try to eat before going to the grocery store also!  :cheers:
Title: Re: Reevaluating my off day carry
Post by: Aloha on October 18, 2019, 04:11:48 PM
The ZL may have  :rofl:.  My partner always goes into strobe and then tosses it to me to say, "this stupid light".  :facepalm:

I do hope there's relief more days than not my friend soon.   :salute:

Its just so darn crazy how this come on.  My daughter friends mom,   :D.   Ok so she come down with some disease, some strange rare condition that nearly left her paralyzed.  She's been battling it now a year.  She's just now got up with the help of a walker tho she needs to be in a wheelchair or scooter.  She's a fighter like you so she decided to walk on her own and sadly broke her ankle. 

She is getting better but its gonna take time.  I do hope in your case you too.  Sooner actually. 
Title: Re: Reevaluating my off day carry
Post by: AimlessWanderer on October 18, 2019, 11:42:19 PM
Cheers mate  :salute:
Title: Re: Reevaluating my off day carry
Post by: spudley112 on October 19, 2019, 12:39:03 AM
I just added 3 aaa flashlights to my carry options (Olight i3t, Maratac copper and Olight i3e). In addition, I also bought a i1r (very nice keychain light) and I have a Rovyvon a2 (650 lumens) keychain light on the way. I have a Nitecore TUP and ordered a Thrunite t1.

In knives, I always carry my Vic Huntsman, but have a Vic Vagabond on the keychain for my car and a MiniChamp on the Harley keychain. I often rotate my second pocketknife.

I was inspired by this post to shake up my options a bit to be more task specific.
Title: Re: Reevaluating my off day carry
Post by: Aloha on October 19, 2019, 10:33:18 PM
 :salute:. 

Sounds like you've got some great options.  The Vagabond and Minichamp are powerful SAKs.  I can see why you chose them. 
Title: Re: Reevaluating my off day carry
Post by: spudley112 on October 19, 2019, 10:51:19 PM
:salute:. 

Sounds like you've got some great options.  The Vagabond and Minichamp are powerful SAKs.  I can see why you chose them.

Definitely. With my Maratac Copper aaa flashlight and Vic Huntsman in my pocket, feel ready for almost anything.
Title: Re: Reevaluating my off day carry
Post by: spudley112 on October 20, 2019, 01:48:50 AM
I used to throw together different survival kits as a way to refine practicality. I had different sized packs, bags, boxes etc that I would use to set up these survival kits. I have to admit, it was kind of fun to sit with like-minded friends and think of scenarios we might face, and how size efficient we could make the kits. I had my Maxpedition bag set up with most of the items I thought I might need, but had a small Otter Box kit and even a couple of Altoid tin kits I made. To and outside observer, these activities may make us look like fringe survivalists, but the reality was that it made us more efficient outdoorsmen because we had to look at actual situations we might face. A lot of talk went into real world situations that people had faced in the past.

I was darn good at lighting a fire without matches or a lighter. I had a ferro rod that I had grown quite proficient with. Then, during a hunt a couple of years ago, when the temperature was extremely frigid, I decided I would build a fire for me and a buddy to warm up with. When my fingers were numb from the cold of sitting on a deer stand all morning, I found the ferro rod a little harder to work with. The longer I went without fire...and without my thick gloves on...the harder it was to throw sparks. I added a small cigarette lighter to my carry items after that. Seems obvious, but my pride up to that point kept me using the ferro rod.


EDC is much the same. Almost everyone has been in a situation where they have had to say, "I wish I had_____." For many of us, it was an item that we added to our EDC as soon as we had a chance. Yeah, we can't carry everything, but there are some items that are definitely nice to have when the situation arrises.
Title: Re: Reevaluating my off day carry
Post by: Aloha on March 02, 2020, 06:48:59 PM
So where am I? 

I've put together a few kits that all make sense by themselves, they are good to go if I only take them alone.  I can grab either Skinth and feel more than comfortable.  I can grab my Salesman and AA light and be happy.  If I only take my PTC, Fenix E05, and pen I'd be fine. 

Now the tool minded voice in me says I need a small plier with the Salesman and PTC kit.  Here's a little wrinkle.  I got a wonderful traditional from spudsly sale.  I made a complimentary "kit" because I really wanted a traditional that I would carry till I'm in the dirt.  This may be it but...........  More on that another time. 

The Schatt and Morgan traditional is nice so I made a little sheath to carry a Squirt and mini bic.  I was going to add a AAA light but this kit was to compliment any of the other kits I have.  When I carry my Skinths and my S&M I take out the Squirt from the leather sheath since both Skinth kits have a small plier.  Its simple and easy to do.  I may add my Manager but its something I decide at that moment. 

When I carry my Salesman kit or my PTC kit then the S&M kits is really good combined with either.

I reserve my S&M kit for off days when I am going to leave the house.  It has no other role for me.  When home I'll choose to carry either the Buck Creek or Camillus trads.  This makes those trad days in their sheaths less. 

I will supplement all carries with a folder if the mood strikes.  The Dragonfly or BM Mini Griptillian are go tos.  More often that not its the Dragonfly. 

I also supplement my lights with either ZL SC52 or Olight S1R Turbo.  These are two very good light that have me me not search out others  My beater light is the Lumentop Tool 2.0. 

I find myself carrying the Skinth kits more than anything.  The Green one for out and back errands, while the black is more for fleamarket or longer errand runs.

If I am feeling minimal then the PTC kit goes.  The Salesman kit is carried least but I enjoy it so I do make time for it.

I have other tools that I do like but I didn't include them in this conversation.  It gets messy when I want to carry others.   

               

 

 
Title: Re: Reevaluating my off day carry
Post by: Gareth on March 02, 2020, 10:33:16 PM
Very nice little set-ups mate and we're still very much of a mind. 
Title: Re: Reevaluating my off day carry
Post by: AimlessWanderer on March 02, 2020, 10:56:46 PM
So.... paraphrasing....

The two skinths work! Done, sorted, finito! (leave them alone  :twak:)
Both of those are primarily for use away from the house by the sounds of it.

The Schatt and Morgan is also for away from the house... but clashes with the skinths due to having it's own pliers. So ditching those, and just having a knife and lighter makes that pairable with either skinth.

Then you have...

1) Salesman kit, or PTC kit, as a foundation, and pairable with

2) Buck Creek or Camillus trads if stopping home, or Schatt and Morgan if going out somewhere, and/or one of the modern folders if you want a bit more blade, plus

3) Charge TTi or Squirt PS4 for the pliers, depending on the needs/mood for the day, and

4) one on the primary lights, leaving each of those in their respective kits as back up.

Does that sound like a fair reflection? Or have I misunderstood your intentions somewhere?
Title: Re: Reevaluating my off day carry
Post by: Aloha on March 02, 2020, 11:41:29 PM
Yes, perfectly summarized  :salute:.  I have enjoyed the simplicity of what to carry an on any given day I just add a fun item or larger light. 

Its made a world of difference for me especially since I do have "collection" items.  Those items are stored away out of sight and truthfully out of mind.  They dont burden me because every time I go thru them I swear its the first time seeing them :climber:   

So todays carry was simple, Green Skinth, BuckCreek Trad.  No need for a larger light since I am home.  No need for a fixed, even tho I like to carry my Esee Izula at home.  I try to balance my, "desire to carry", and "want to carry".  I enjoy what I have so I like to carry them.  When I am home like today, I do have a little more fun.  Seems when I head out I tend to be more pragmatic.   
Title: Re: Reevaluating my off day carry
Post by: AimlessWanderer on March 03, 2020, 12:01:05 AM
No need for a fixed, even tho I like to carry my Esee Izula at home.  I try to balance my, "desire to carry", and "want to carry".  I enjoy what I have so I like to carry them.  When I am home like today, I do have a little more fun.  Seems when I head out I tend to be more pragmatic.   

At home is the only place my fixed blades tend to get used now. That's probably my next area for streamlining.  :whistle:

It is easy to faff around more at home, as you're only a minute away from getting something different to use  :D Out and about, you have to be sure you got it right before you leave. Then again, even if we didn't take the ideal kit, we'd still be better equipped for surprises than most of the population  ;)
Title: Re: Reevaluating my off day carry
Post by: Aloha on March 03, 2020, 12:08:07 AM
 :tu:.  I always carry a fixed for work and more times than not its my Jumpmaster.  I do love to carry a fixed because I can do so much with one and am very comfortable with one.

With fixed blades I also tend to "assign" roles for them.  It seems once I've made the decision on where and when to carry an item the process of carrying is much easier.  I leave the thinking and evaluating for the fun stuff.  I like to believe I am simple when it comes right down to it.  I may have myself wrong.  Fun for me doesn't have harsh rules so I like to play a little fast and loose with fun items. 

Once I have my go to items then the fun begins with rules.  Carry what I like, when I like, because I can.   :woohoo:     
Title: Re: Reevaluating my off day carry
Post by: Aloha on April 23, 2020, 05:27:21 PM
Time for an update.  Few changes to the kits, tweaks if you will.  Lemme snap some pics and I'll be back to discuss. 
Title: Re: Reevaluating my off day carry
Post by: Aloha on April 23, 2020, 05:50:57 PM
All I did was add the slip sheath for the Camillus to another I made so I now include a complete kit of Trad, SAK, Light.  I also did the same for the Buck Creek.  The sheath is some random one I found.  These two kits are what I carry around the house.  I'm set as far as home carry.  I'm not reaching for the Salesman/light duo as much since. 

I'm really liking being able to pair the PTC with the Camillus plus a light.  Perfect complete set up for whatever.  The same goes for the Buck Creek set up. 

Skinths are the same as they have been for a while now. 
Title: Re: Reevaluating my off day carry
Post by: Gareth on April 24, 2020, 11:12:27 AM
Very, very nice mate.  I'm liking those slip sheaths you've got there.  Are you carrying them in your back pocket? 
Title: Re: Reevaluating my off day carry
Post by: Aloha on April 24, 2020, 02:19:07 PM
Thank you.  It all started a couple years ago.  I bought an old thick leather purse for the leather.  I made a simple sheath to carry a SAK and light.  I tried a few ways to carry, front pocket, back pocket, and shirt pocket but I found front best for me.  They are about the size of a wallet and I carry my wallet in my front pocket so it kinda balance me carrying one in the other pocket. 

The Camillus sheath I made worked so good but I found myself carrying my PTC in my coin pocket and light elsewhere. Figured why not combine them.  So far so good.  I guess its hard to not have a SAK on me regardless of what other knife may be carrying.

Once the fleamarket is open I'll look for more leather and really refine the sheath.   
Title: Re: Reevaluating my off day carry
Post by: Aloha on August 10, 2020, 04:03:44 PM
Its been a while.  I finished my first 30 day challenge and it was fun.  It was a 30 day memorial for Dean51 hosted by Steve.   I had been fooling around with Trads as my last entry noted.  I received a wonderful S&M from spuds so I was carrying it a lot.  I assembled a few slip sheath for my Trads and complimentary items.  Thats worked out great and I've really enjoyed carrying them. 

Because of COVID I wasn't able to go to the flea market to get leather so I opted for an inexpensive option.  I bought a couple of slip sheath of the big river site.  I wasn't expecting much other than a trial run and/or template for when I do make one.  What I bought were Diodrio sheaths.  I bought a compact and EDC.  They were priced fair IMO, the smaller one was $14 and the larger $13.  My partner surprised me with an additional compact.  I told her how I was pleasantly surprised at the FnF and quality.   

I suspect the stitching as with anything will be the failure point.  Thankfully the stitching is not just thread.  It seems to be fairly well done and if there is a failure something I could remedy.  The leather is sufficient for a pocket sheath.  Its thin enough to conform to the items within without being too stiff.  I liked the pen elastic addition as well as the grommet.  Over all its a decently executed piece of gear that should wear well and last fairly well.

When I received the second compact sheath the color was notably different.  Their was also a notable size difference.  The lighter one is the one I purchased.  Its a little bigger in width and length as well as thicker leather.  The individual compartments are also different in width.  I am happy with both however the differences make a difference in what will fit.  It worked out great for me as the smaller one fits my Schatt and Morgan while the "larger" one fits my Case Mini Trapper. 

Ok this is not a review I just wanted to let y'all know how I was carrying what I was carrying so onto that. 

         
Title: Re: Reevaluating my off day carry
Post by: Gareth on August 10, 2020, 04:15:39 PM
I tell ya, it's spooky.  I was honestly looking at a slip sheath just like that last night. :ahhh  Does it still fit in your front pocket OK?
Title: Re: Reevaluating my off day carry
Post by: Aloha on August 10, 2020, 04:26:23 PM
Ok now that you know how I carry here's what I've been carrying and why. 

I have been really enjoying traditional folders more and more.  Maybe its a phase but who cares.  Its been nice to delve into this area of the hobby.  The history of these knives is wonderful and theres really quite a lot of variety to them.  Will I give up my SAK Explorer?  Not a chance.  Will I give up my Squirts?  Not a chance tho the Style has made a debut. 

I've really enjoyed carrying the Schatt and Morgan knife.  I am liking keeping it in a sheath to preserve it to some degree.  Its nice to also have a pen and scissors ( Squirt ) which also has pliers.  That kit is a stand alone grab and go kit.  I now have a second stand alone kit thanks to my partner.  It houses my Case Mini Trapper, Squirt, and pen.  I'm pretty stoked with these two set ups which I've now carried for about a month.  They are being shaped nicely within my pocket and to the tools within. 

The EDC sheath houses my sentimental Case Psalms 23 Trapper.  Its the first knife I've bought in a while.  I wanted to carry it "safely" which prompted me to buy the sheaths.  While larger than the compact sheath it fits/fills my Levi front pocket comfortably.  I added my Style PS so that I could have scissors and pliers.  I have a Squirt P4 but that lack scissors.

Side note.  I may get 2 more Style PS tools and remove the Squirts from the smaller sheaths.  My aim is to have scissors and pliers which is why I don't have 58mm SAKs or 74mm SAKs within any of these sheaths. 

     
Title: Re: Reevaluating my off day carry
Post by: Aloha on August 10, 2020, 04:28:14 PM
Very, very nice mate.  I'm liking those slip sheaths you've got there.  Are you carrying them in your back pocket?

I am carrying both sizes in my front pocket.  The smaller one is a great fit in Levi pockets and the larger one fills the pocket yet still for me comfortable.  At the price point I am happy and should any stich failure occur I believe I can remedy. 
Title: Re: Reevaluating my off day carry
Post by: Aloha on August 10, 2020, 04:37:30 PM
I have decided that I will carry the larger sheath with my Psalm 23 Trapper on my off days primarily.  This is gonna be my primary setup. 

I do miss a light and SAK and lighter which seems to have been needed more than I realized it would be.  Thats all covered in my green Skinth. 

I've been pretty happy with this setup.  I can add my PW2 to the Skinth if I really feel I want some extra oomph. 

Title: Re: Reevaluating my off day carry
Post by: Aloha on August 10, 2020, 05:12:47 PM
When I am leaving the house be it errands or just a day of fun I put my Psalm 23 kit in my pocket.         

I now have a few options for everyday  :whistle:.   I have leaned more to my Case Mini Trapper set up that anything.  Its been a great compliment at work and around the house.  That little Trapper is near perfect size for me.  The choice in blades is also a terrific. 

I think my next favorite is my Camillus set up.  Its complimented by a Wenger PTC and 2 mode SS Lumintop Worm.  My sheath I made is doing well and I like that I can carry 3 tools.  At home I don't "need" a pen.

I'm still very much enamored with my Schatt and Morgan.  Its a knife pattern I like a lot.  I wouldn't mind getting a larger version of this exact configuration. 

I enjoy my Queen Barlow in its belt sheath quite a lot so honestly sometimes I carry that in addition to any of the small sheath set ups  ;).

My BuckCreek is a nice knife and the Micra was a good compliment so those are paired.  I carry that mostly at home.  Not quite that often but enough to enjoy it.  I'm surprised by my Micra more and more.  I am more of a Squirt aficionado. 

The large knife at the bottom is new to me.  Its a Queen #29.  I picked it up not long ago and have not really carried it much.  The single sheath is one I use for my Opinel and Rough Rider 1139 as well. 

Lastly is my CRKT Texas Toothpick, MiniChamp, and Fenix E05 SS.  That light was giving me a headache till I finally screwed the LED from the inside down firmer.  Not sure what the whole led assembly is called.  The light now works as it should and is a nice light tho heavy little fella.  I don't carry this set up that much since the Case Mini Trapper hogs a lot of pocket time.  I also now have a few more options so 1st world problems  :whistle:     
Title: Re: Reevaluating my off day carry
Post by: SteveC on August 10, 2020, 06:40:43 PM
Some nice options !    :like: :tu:
Title: Re: Reevaluating my off day carry
Post by: Aloha on August 10, 2020, 07:03:10 PM
Off day today so Case Mini Trapper set in pocket.  I've added a Skeletool CX also. 
Title: Re: Reevaluating my off day carry
Post by: Aloha on August 10, 2020, 07:03:26 PM
Some nice options !    :like: :tu:

Thank you. 
Title: Re: Reevaluating my off day carry
Post by: Gareth on August 10, 2020, 08:31:43 PM
Some nice options !    :like: :tu:

Yup.  :iagree:
Title: Re: Reevaluating my off day carry
Post by: Aloha on October 13, 2020, 06:57:39 PM
Well well here I am again mostly just to ramble on like always. 

As I sit and look at what I have on deck ( night stand ) and think about what I like to carry vs what to carry because I know I'll need a tool or tools vs what I want to carry because its new to me or cool I'm left scratching my head  :think:. 

I've set up some go to items in Skinths and Sheaths so I wouldn't have to think and just grab and go but  :dunno:. 

What I can tell y'all is my go to has been my Case set up.  Missing is a light and larger SAK.  Not to worry as I have that covered in a Skinth and now another leather sheath  :facepalm:.  I was never trying to be minimalist or trying to test my ability to get by with less.  I was and am wanting a set up that I can carry without thinking about what to carry.  Thats at least how this thread is evolving. 

I have worn the same belt now for decades.  I have worn the same work watch for a long time.  Same MT on my work belt.  Heck I am using the same dang cell phone ( well same model ) for years.  I wore the same work hat for decade or more.  I'm a creature of habit when something works. 

I am not one who craves change for change sake.  I do however like to try things for no other reason that why the heck not.  What that means is additional carry items.

Whats worked has been a AAA light and my Squirt.  Those are staples for sure.  I'm not terribly picky with the light but unlike most I do like a strobe feature.  I do have without a strobe feature so its not a deal breaker to carry a simple AAA. 

Because I don't have a Squirt for each leather kit I used a Style PS in my Pslam 23 Trapper kit which works too.

I still want to carry a SAK 84 or 91mm.  I'm wanting one with scissors and a Cadet X would be perfect.  The SAK I reach for most times is my Explorer.  I'm still wanting to try a Compact and will in time.  I like opening layers so the combo tool is what makes me hesitant as I've already tried one and didn't bond. 

I have a 84mm Golfer that would be perfect it I liked the combo tool.  I am also liking carrying a mini Bic lighter as well.  Its simple and easy to carry so I have a few.   

The journey continues for me. 

Here is a pic of my trad set ups.  My Case Trapper ( top row 1st kit ) is my go to.  My Psalm 23 Trapper ( top row 2nd kit ) is my off day carry.  I'll carry the S&M kit ( top row 3rd kit ) from time to time.  The Camillus 64 with Cadet 2 kit is a new sheath and kit ( bottom row 1st kit ).  I am liking this setup a lot.  The Imperial ( bottom row 2nd kit ) is newish and a favorite for harder work.  The last two have not been carried a lot.  The Kutmaster is a great little knife but its still new to me.  The CRKT Toothpick is a great single blade SS knife.  I just have a few too many options now  :D not humble bragging at all.  I didn't even show my Queen Barlow or Buck Creek as those are ones I am not carrying a lot. 

I can see why fellas in the Trad thread carry two.  It makes sense to me now as I have some fun trads and want to carry them all. 

Add in my fixed blade of the day and I'm not a minimalist at all.  I'm having such a renewed sense of fun with trads added in to my daily carry that this thread has taken a neat turn. 

Thats all for now.   
Title: Re: Reevaluating my off day carry
Post by: Gareth on October 13, 2020, 08:30:09 PM
Love that ribbed Alox mate.  :drool:

I think the last few months has seen me carrying even less than before!  Mostly because I've spent a lot more time indoors for some reason and have anything I want close to hand.  :D

So mostly I've had a 58mm SAK or Micra on my keys along with the excellent Nitecore Tiki.  In my other pocket I've had either a light trad or slim SAK of some kind.
Title: Re: Reevaluating my off day carry
Post by: Aloha on October 13, 2020, 10:27:48 PM
Thank you. 

 :like:  Makes complete sense.  Our carry will and often times reflects our daily activity or lack thereof.  I'm still working outside the home and while not as much I've been tinkering around the home.  My partner is having a bit of a redecorating spree  :o.  I've been putting together and taking apart furniture and closet shelving.  I've done a bit of work in the yard and other random things. 

The Cadet 2 is nice thin carry.  I am so jealous of those who have added scissors to their Cadets.  I would love to remove the main blade for a new one as well as the can opener.  They were a bit mistreated so I had to make some adjustments.  The blade was baldly sharpened and recurved as a result. The can opener tip was mangled so I made a bit of a judgement call in the fixing.
Title: Reevaluating my off day carry
Post by: dmattaponi on October 15, 2020, 04:24:17 AM
My out of the house combo is a Vic Explorer Plus and a Leatherman Squirt PS4.  The Leatherman provided the pliers, wire cutter, and file.  Around the house the Xplorer gets traded out for a Classic or a Rambler.

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Title: Re: Reevaluating my off day carry
Post by: Aloha on October 15, 2020, 06:37:04 AM
My out of the house combo is a Vic Explorer Plus and a Leatherman Squirt PS4.  The Leatherman provided the pliers, wire cutter, and file.  Around the house the Xplorer gets traded out for a Classic or a Rambler.

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 :tu: Very solid paring.  Around the house either 58mm is a great choice. 
Title: Re: Reevaluating my off day carry
Post by: Gareth on October 15, 2020, 01:23:57 PM
My out of the house combo is a Vic Explorer Plus and a Leatherman Squirt PS4.  The Leatherman provided the pliers, wire cutter, and file.  Around the house the Xplorer gets traded out for a Classic or a Rambler.

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That's a nice combination I think.  If you can find an old Squirt P4 you'll not have a redundant pair of scissors. :)
Title: Re: Reevaluating my off day carry
Post by: Aloha on March 23, 2021, 06:39:54 PM
Its been a while since my last "real" update.   So whats changed?  Lots and nothing. 

Lets get into it then shall we,

I am enjoying carrying a Traditional folder so much so that I carry my Case Pslam 23 every off day.  Its housed in a sheath with my Squirt, 4/7s ATOM Ti light, and pen.  That is a complete kit alone but since I am loving trads so much these days......... 

I also carry my Pemberton in a sheath with my Wenger PTC and REX trad with a 4/7s Preon.   I actually carry this kit everyday.   I know its a lot, 3 trads, 2 lights, plus the Squirt, and PTC :dunno:.  The Pemberton kit has become my everyday carry since getting the Pemberton.  I bonded with the little REX trad for some unknown reason so instead of replacing it with the Pemberton I included it.  The more I reevaluated my carry the more unreliable my evaluating has become  :facepalm:.  I am enjoying these days more so than ever.  I appreciate the items I have and carry more than ever.       

I carry the Case Psalm 23 in memory of my son.  Its not used a lot but I am not hesitant to use it.  I bought it shorty after my son passed with the intention of remembering him with something I'd carry and use.  It became an immediate favorite.  Because I carried my Squirt already it was easy to include that into the sheath.  My space pen ink cartridge was not something I liked.  I changed it out and now I'm much more happy so I added it to the sheath.  Lastly I chose the 4/7s Titanium Red LED because of the soft light it gives off and it fit so well within the sheath.  Like I said this is a complete kit as far as I'm concerned.  The problem is I'm loving my other stuff so much.   

I got the REX trad a short while ago.  Its so cute but also useful I carried it often.  When I got the Pemberton I bought the sheath so I could put it and my PTC in it which I did.  I had no intention to add anything else but there was just enough space for my little cute REX plus I wanted some light too so my 4/7s Preon was added to the elastic pen holder.  I carried this that day and everyday since.  3 little knives all perfectly cohabiting in a small neat kit. 

Lights.  If I need more light then I use the lights shown.  My Zebralight is still a go to light.  I like this light a lot.  The ability to handle different cells is important to me.  I have a 14500 in it so it gives a nice amount of light if needed.  Its various modes means I am never without options for most if not all circumstances.  I also very much enjoy the Tool 2.0.  Its a good light for the money.  It can also handle different cells.  That diffuser is brilliant.  I keep it on full time so I can use the light as a lantern.  Running a 14500 this light pumps out more than enough light for me.  I bought the Thrunite T10T out of impulse.  It was a great price so I figured what the heck.  It can take 14500s and push 800lm which is nice but it was the Ti that got me  ;).  It is not a light weight light tho.  This light is mostly carried while at home while the Zebra or Tool are taken with me outside the home.  I bought the Manker a while ago as my first angle light.  I also use this mostly at home which is nice since I can clip it to my shirt pocket and go hands free.  The neutral tint is pretty nice. My Fenix LD02 continues the be a favorite.  I keep one in a Skinth along with an Explorer.  Its been flawless in function and earned its spot.  My Fenix E02 SS was wonky when I got it but I tightened the module and its been flawless as well.  I bring this one when I want a smaller light over the ZL or Tool.  Fits in the coin pocket easily.     
 
Modern OHO Folders.  Not much has changed as far as me carrying a folder.  I carry them once in a while outside the home but mostly at home or work.  I got the Benchmade 555 fairly recently from a member.  Very happy with it.  My partner "borrowed" it for a little while but I somehow got it back.  Even tho I am flush with knives on my day off with the 3 trads, Squirt, and PTC, there are times when I like a OHO knife.  Those 3 are my go to if I do decide a OHO folder will be carried. 

Explorer plus.  With all the sharps in my pocket is not often I carry a SAK larger than my PTC on my off days outside the house.  This SAK is one I have come back to time and time again.  I've gone to 84mm for a while but I keep coming back to the Explorer.   I carry a Champion for work now so the Explorer see less time as a result.  I bought a loop so my Explorer is seeing less time at the fleamarket as well.  I've not given up on my Explorer but it is seeing limited time in use. 

Watch.  I picked this watch up from a member.  My partner decided it was hers pretty quickly.  I only recently got it back.  Its been a nice watch and very comfy on the wrist.  My go to for work has been a Gshock which I also used for off days as well.  I am happy to have something else to wear on my off days now.  While I have other watches I wanted something like this for a while.  Been on my wrist every off day since getting it. 

Misc.  Lip balm, the white tube is essential oil that I can take a whiff from as needed, bandana, hand sanitizer, and pepper gel.  These all get carried everyday except the pepper gel which only gets carried on off days. 

   

 
     
Title: Re: Reevaluating my off day carry
Post by: Aloha on March 23, 2021, 06:40:44 PM
Watch and misc items. 
Title: Re: Reevaluating my off day carry
Post by: SurgeUk on March 23, 2021, 06:49:12 PM
Watch and misc items.
Loving all of the kit Aloha  :tu: :like:

If only we could carry incapacitant spray/gel here  :dd: :rant:
Title: Re: Reevaluating my off day carry
Post by: Aloha on March 23, 2021, 07:08:27 PM
I should also mention I have been wearing 5.11 pants more on my off days.  I picked up several pair from the thrift store thinking I'd wear them for work since I wear similar type pants for work ( LA Police gear ).  I typically wear jeans on my off days and Levi's are a no go for me these days.  They have gotten way too thin and I'm not happy with them any more.  I picked up a pair of Wranglers which I was happy with but I still need to get a few more.  The 5.11 pants and cargo pants in general were not a type of pant I wore outside of work but I have to say I am liking them more than I thought I would.  They are so lightweight and the POCKET real estate is awesome. 

The other typical items carried are a wallet and phone. 

I carry my wallet in my left front pocket with the Pemberton kit.  Its fits nicely together with a little bulk tho not bad at all.  I carry my Case Psalm 23 kit in my right from pocket with lip balm and essential oil inhaler ( if I am not wearing a shirt with pocket ) and sanitizer if wearing jeans.  Bandana is in my left rear pocket with phone.  If I carry a modern folder then it goes into my right rear pocket.    When I add a larger light it gets clipped to the belt loop.  My belt seems to keep it in place with jeans and the 5.11 pants have a wide loop so its very secure there. 

I carry my pepper gel on my belt ( not shown but I wear a leather belt every day off ) in a ranger band ( bike inner tube ).  Its very secure there but also allows easy access.  I thought about carrying my additional light in a similar manner but the belt loop works. 

I don't use all the pocket on my 5.11 pants as you can see other than for my sanitizer.  They are greta tho and I can see how they can be great for those that choose to.   
Title: Re: Reevaluating my off day carry
Post by: Aloha on March 23, 2021, 07:20:09 PM
Loving all of the kit Aloha  :tu: :like:

If only we could carry incapacitant spray/gel here  :dd: :rant:

I have not used it thankfully but it does give me some peace of mind.  I don't think of my sharps as defense weapons so pepper gel would be a choice of defense in certain situations.  I've used my ability to deescalate with humility in most cases.  Seems certain fellas just want to peacock more than anything so a bit of humility works for them.  I have had a few encounters where I was going to spritz someone but luckily for us both he decided to take a step back.  We've practiced a fair bit with pepper sprays/gels ( my girls and partner too ) so we are fairly ready if needed to spritz.  Not entirely sure the effectiveness but if only for a moment of surprise we'll be onto our next step.  We also like it for our walks, some pet owners do not take care to keep their dogs safely behind fences or on leashes. 

Its the very least approach to some kind of self protection here in a very large city in a even larger state of uncertainty at times.       
Title: Re: Reevaluating my off day carry
Post by: Aloha on June 16, 2021, 10:18:48 PM
Back again.  I didn't show how I carry my wallet.  I switched out wallets for a while but I am back to my Nixon leather bifold.  I like this wallet even tho its a bit wide.  In other threads I mentioned nearly leaving it on the counter while checking out of a store.  Since that moment I attached it to my Victorinox Belt Hanger.  This way the wallet is on a leash that wont come off unless I choose to.  Its worked out great. 

Keys have always been an area of frustration.  How do I carry all the key I need to?  Well, I decided since I dont always take my vehicle all I really needed were house keys.  I attached those to the leash my wallet is on.  So far so good. 

My vehicle key and fob along with the two keys to open my truck topper are together with a pill container and PhotonX.  They are all attacked to my NiteIze biner that has stood the test of time.  I keep my vehicle key on a quick release to my ignition isn't being bogged down.  The PhotonX is a great little button light.  Its served me well even with the battery case popping open a few times.  Its so light yet so worth carrying I keep it aboard.  Pill fob has Ibuprofen.

Keeping with leashed stuff I bought the dual belt clip thing.  I had a single that proved to work well.  The dual belt clip thing has two chains.  One keeps my Midnight Minichamp that FolderBeholder sent to me on a quick release.  I also keep a leather pouch that has a few mementos.  I clip that to my Wrangler belt loop or D ring that my 5/11 pants have.  I then pop it into my Wrangler coin pocket or slash pocket of my 5/11's.  I have easy access to my SAK and light. 

The other chain keeps my Case Psalm 23 Trapper kit secure.  No worries of it running off.  The only chain really exposed is the brass one.  Which to me looks kinda cool.  The silver chains is only slightly seen.

I then attach my NiteIze biner to the dual belt clip and I'm set.  My vehicle key is just long enough to slip into my pocket as well.  No dangling bit for me. 

 
Title: Re: Reevaluating my off day carry
Post by: Aloha on June 16, 2021, 10:21:31 PM
I've been happy with this set up as far as my wallet carry and slip sheath carry.  My keychain will change and go back and change again.  I do like keeping my house keys with my wallet.  When I am off like today I only have my dual belt clip with 2 chains.  No need for my vehicle key. 

That last pic is what I have in that leather pouch. 
Title: Reevaluating my off day carry
Post by: dmattaponi on June 17, 2021, 05:50:37 AM
Great thread and pics!  Like some of you my home edc is often in flux, but I really do like the idea of settling on on a consistent edc that I carry both at home and outside of home. Most recently I upsized my multitool from a Squirt PS4 to a Leatherman Bond or PST.  I’ve downsized my SAK from the Explorer Plus to a Compact.  The single AA flashlight, the pen and notebook remain the same.  The main reason for the changes is that I broke (bent) my Squirt trying to cut some wire that it couldn’t handle and I wanted something that while compact would be a little more robust.  So that meant a bigger multitool.  To compensate a little for this I tried to save a little on the size and weight of the SAK (while keeping the  SAK scissors which are a heavily used favorite of mine…not to mention neither of the two multitools that I’m using have scissors).


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Title: Re: Reevaluating my off day carry
Post by: GearedForwards on June 17, 2021, 06:53:06 AM
One heck of a kit Aloha! Loving the chains, I used a chain in secondary for my locker and house key, school was not the time to try that... It was not well received by my 'peers'  :facepalm:

I should put more effort into my kits, though being at home like... 95% of the time makes it a bit hard to not grab a couple handfuls of whatever is allowed in the challenge of the month  :think:

How do you find carrying the Zebralight on your loop? I'd imagine that it'd be past the point of retention, does it moving around not bother you at all?

How useful do you find the midnite minichamp's light?
Title: Re: Reevaluating my off day carry
Post by: Aloha on June 17, 2021, 04:12:38 PM
Great thread and pics!  Like some of you my home edc is often in flux, but I really do like the idea of settling on on a consistent edc that I carry both at home and outside of home. Most recently I upsized my multitool from a Squirt PS4 to a Leatherman Bond or PST.  I’ve downsized my SAK from the Explorer Plus to a Compact.  The single AA flashlight, the pen and notebook remain the same.  The main reason for the changes is that I broke (bent) my Squirt trying to cut some wire that it couldn’t handle and I wanted something that while compact would be a little more robust.  So that meant a bigger multitool.  To compensate a little for this I tried to save a little on the size and weight of the SAK (while keeping the  SAK scissors which are a heavily used favorite of mine…not to mention neither of the two multitools that I’m using have scissors).


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My carry is evolving as I go thru the thread.  I have some items that have remained.  I went from a Wave to my Squirt since I was not using the Wave as much.  I can see how you went the other direction especially when you had the fail.  Going from a Explorer to the Compact is not bad at all.  Lots of functionality in the Compact.

The PST is a nice slim multitool yet offers more robustness over the Squirt.  I don't have a Bond but from what I've been reading its also seems like a good slim choice. 
Title: Re: Reevaluating my off day carry
Post by: Aloha on June 17, 2021, 04:28:34 PM
One heck of a kit Aloha! Loving the chains, I used a chain in secondary for my locker and house key, school was not the time to try that... It was not well received by my 'peers'  :facepalm:

I should put more effort into my kits, though being at home like... 95% of the time makes it a bit hard to not grab a couple handfuls of whatever is allowed in the challenge of the month  :think:

How do you find carrying the Zebralight on your loop? I'd imagine that it'd be past the point of retention, does it moving around not bother you at all?

How useful do you find the midnite minichamp's light?

Thank you.  The chains have been working out great.  I was going to use paracord but I had the chains.  The brass one is nice looking and the only one that shows.  The silver on goes straight into my pocket.  I also dont tuck my shirt in so......

I can imagine a couple keys hangin from a chain as a young boy wouldn't go over too well.  The biker wallet is a look with the chain hanging.  Its not the look I was going I was after a secure way to keep my slip sheath from wandering.  I am a big fan of the Victorinox belt clip with chain so this was familiar. 

So I should follow up to say I only carried the ZL in my loop when wearing the 5/11 pants since they have a wider belt loop.  I also wear a leather belt which also helps the light stay snug.  As for movement, its pretty stable but I have also been trying it clipped inside the waistband and in the 5/11s front velcro pocket.  I dont like to clip it to my pocket or just let it sit at the bottom of my pocket. 

I'm pretty happy with the light from the Midnight Minichamp.  I carry a button light and while they are great for certain situations they have their limits.  The MC is bright enough for those moments when you need some light.  I wouldn't use it to light my pathway along the side of my house but it would be ok for a dark room or under a bed. 

I much prefer a AAA in most circumstances.  The are easy to carry and slim.  They can be carried on a keychain for the most part so you'll always have a light.  My AA/14500 are for everything else.   
Title: Re: Reevaluating my off day carry
Post by: dmattaponi on June 17, 2021, 05:10:08 PM
My carry is evolving as I go thru the thread.  I have some items that have remained.  I went from a Wave to my Squirt since I was not using the Wave as much.  I can see how you went the other direction especially when you had the fail.  Going from a Explorer to the Compact is not bad at all.  Lots of functionality in the Compact.

The PST is a nice slim multitool yet offers more robustness over the Squirt.  I don't have a Bond but from what I've been reading its also seems like a good slim choice.
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Title: Re: Reevaluating my off day carry
Post by: dmattaponi on June 17, 2021, 05:12:42 PM
Thank you.  The chains have been working out great.  I was going to use paracord but I had the chains.  The brass one is nice looking and the only one that shows.  The silver on goes straight into my pocket.  I also dont tuck my shirt in so......

I can imagine a couple keys hangin from a chain as a young boy wouldn't go over too well.  The biker wallet is a look with the chain hanging.  Its not the look I was going I was after a secure way to keep my slip sheath from wandering.  I am a big fan of the Victorinox belt clip with chain so this was familiar. 

So I should follow up to say I only carried the ZL in my loop when wearing the 5/11 pants since they have a wider belt loop.  I also wear a leather belt which also helps the light stay snug.  As for movement, its pretty stable but I have also been trying it clipped inside the waistband and in the 5/11s front velcro pocket.  I dont like to clip it to my pocket or just let it sit at the bottom of my pocket. 

I'm pretty happy with the light from the Midnight Minichamp.  I carry a button light and while they are great for certain situations they have their limits.  The MC is bright enough for those moments when you need some light.  I wouldn't use it to light my pathway along the side of my house but it would be ok for a dark room or under a bed. 

I much prefer a AAA in most circumstances.  The are easy to carry and slim.  They can be carried on a keychain for the most part so you'll always have a light.  My AA/14500 are for everything else.   
I agree.  I have a Minichamp with the light.  It’s an older one and they may have since been improved, but a AAA flashlight is much superior for most tasks. 


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Title: Re: Reevaluating my off day carry
Post by: Aloha on December 08, 2021, 05:20:03 PM
Reevaluating or rambling?  I'm not sure anymore  :think:.

Over the last few months I have really tried to only put things into my pockets that tick a few boxes for me.  The what if scenario can be a helluva journey.  I tell myself and have told myself I cannot deal with every scenario nor do I want to, more importantly.  I want to carry things that assist me in my comings and goings while enjoy8n guy days off. 

When I am working I plan for most things.  I have contingencies.  When I am out enjoying an activity I also have contingencies planned for.  When I am off not engaged in a specific activity I am usually doing life stuff.  Here in SoCal we spend a lot of time in our vehicles.  We've got to drive everywhere and from where I live thats usually 30 miles or further.  I wont need much even if I break down.  I wont be spending the night out doors.  I wont need food and water.  I live in a big city and its rare I wont have cell coverage. 

My off day carry is why I began this thread.  I was carrying stuff I no longer felt the need I had to have on me.  I also rarely used some of the gear which prompted my evaluation of it, or rather the need. 

Over the course of this thread I have began to really enjoy carrying traditional folders.  I still very much enjoy them.  Also as I type this out I have not been carrying my Explorer or large SAK much at all. 

I'll get right into it then. 

Midnight Manager on my Victorinox Belt hanger.  While thicker than my Manager I appreciate the light ( white vs red ).  Its thickness is not noticed in how I carry it.  I was carrying a Manager before in the same manner for a while so its a familiar SAK but with a added feature ( light ).  The light is nice.  Its very usable so its worth the added thickness of the scales, to me. 

I bought a Rovyvon Aurora A5 after some lengthy reading up on it and reviews.  I didn't have a "real" keychain light and thought it would be nice to have one on me at all times.  While the manager is nice the light is not what I'd call bump in the night worthy.  I popped the light onto the same belt hanger as my Manager.  Its not bad at all.  While I am not a big fan of jingling items, these are relatively quiet since its plastic on plastic.  The amount of light and recharge ability are wonderful on the A5 as are the features. 

Lets for a moment stop there.  With those 2 items ( Midnight Manager and A5 ) I am comfortable with leaving the house IF I only carried those.  Lets be clear tho, I am like you, I like sharps and I like gear.  What I am saying is my feeling of NEED is not strong enough to have me feeling less prepared IF I only had those items on me. 

I hope that made sense. 

Title: Re: Reevaluating my off day carry
Post by: GearedForwards on December 08, 2021, 05:42:21 PM
My soul sheds a tear every time a gear head is drawn closer to shudder minimalism  :ahhh

At least it's still quality gear  :salute:

I really like my Rovyvon, it performs well in most situations, only really failing to hail the delivery driver that takes the wrong turn down the street a.k.a. my justification for blasting 4000+ lumens in a residential area  :whistle:

The Midnite Manager looks like a great package, I haven't tried a lite SAK yet, I have a second hand one in the states with my missus' sister waiting for collection/delivery at some point, but if one goes on sale here in the mean time I might try it out  :think:

If you were to compare the MM's lite to the Rovyvon's main LED, what brightness level is it closer to?
Title: Re: Reevaluating my off day carry
Post by: Aloha on December 08, 2021, 06:15:26 PM
BTW I place the belt hanger on my left side and its been great.  The pill container has 1 Ibuprofen, 1 Allergy pill, 1 St Josephs 81mg pill, 1 upset stomach pill.

Pepper Spray.  I am still carrying it and its been nice to have it.  I've told the story over and over again as to why.  A knife for me is not a defense tool I'm likely to use.  I'll never say never and leave it at that.  I'm not too bad with my hands and feet.  I had years of training in boxing and American Kenpo however I'd rather not get into a scuffle.  Id much rather if the situation called for it spritz an idiot with some seasoning  :D.  Well before that tho I am a 3rd degree black belt ( in talk ) and Jedi with letting ego driven idiots or idiots in general who want trouble feel amazing by talking them down.  Any of you who have been accosted or felt threatened know when its "go time".  I have had my share of moments but rarely felt it was "go time".  I can usually feed their ego while being calm and ready and giving off the vibe I'm afraid to set it off.   

Hope that makes sense.

I keep the pepper spray on my right side even tho I am a lefty.

In my front pocket is where all the trouble is  :rofl:.   What to carry?  Over the months I have been so thankful to receive such wonderful knives, traditional ones.  I have found a comfort in them and using them.  I don't often get new knives so I've often said I like to think about who may have owned them thru the years.  Why they chose this particular knife and so on. 

I did buy 2 Case knives that really need to be carried.  One is a Trapper with a verse very special to me.  I bought it after my son passed away.  I also bought a Tony Bose Tribal Lock.  Its such a fantastic knife. 

Do I carry both?  How can I leave one behind? 

So because I bought the Trapper for a specific reason I choose to carry it daily on my off days.   

I was having such a great time carrying my Pemberton that its so hard not to.  I did stop for a short while tho.  I missed its little blades and immediately put it back into my pocket. 

What about my Case small Trapper?  My Case Copper Lock?  They are all such nice knives I want to carry them all. 

Ok ok ok, I used to love reading about some who carried ONE tool for years.  In some ways I want to be that fella. The thing is, I have acquired too many nice things.  I cannot go back now. 

   
           
Title: Re: Reevaluating my off day carry
Post by: Aloha on December 08, 2021, 06:22:09 PM
If you were to compare the MM's lite to the Rovyvon's main LED, what brightness level is it closer to?

The SAK white light is pretty dim.  While nice in a car looking under seats or glove box.  Nice for under sofa or when theres NO light.  I'd say the "closest to" the lowest mode of the A5.  I can use the SAK light for my door lock.  It useable light but specially so. 

I really like my A5 with red aux LEDs. 
Title: Re: Reevaluating my off day carry
Post by: GearedForwards on December 08, 2021, 06:43:32 PM
The SAK white light is pretty dim.  While nice in a car looking under seats or glove box.  Nice for under sofa or when theres NO light.  I'd say the "closest to" the lowest mode of the A5.  I can use the SAK light for my door lock.  It useable light but specially so. 

I really like my A5 with red aux LEDs.

That's not bad for the size, I do think Vic are overdue a revision with more modern LEDs and rechargeable cells like in the Keysmart Pro smart side. My Rovy is the one with UV instead of red light, I like it for playing with GitD stuff, including self charging the body to act like a marker for my organiser.

A lovely set of trads you have to choose from! My trad game is pretty low but I'm building up to it.

This reminds me I should probably update my carry thread  :think:
Title: Re: Reevaluating my off day carry
Post by: Aloha on December 08, 2021, 06:43:51 PM
Those wonderful Trads don't all go solo. 

Lets go top left of picture. 

Black Squirt PS4.  SS Trapper.  small pen. This combo is terrific.  I like the trapper pattern a lot and SS is a decent choice for this CASE.  Big fan of the Squirt so this has always made the cut. 

Blue Squirt P4 ( minus scissors ).  Yellow Copper lock CV.  Titanium 4/7s Atom A0 Red LED.  I always wanted to try the Copper lock and lucked upon this fella.  I've had the red led light for a long time.  Its nice as an accessory light.  Its also neat its a red led.  My Squirt P4 has some milage.  Its minus the scissors yet its has a little awl.  Its a great little tool. 

The empty leather sheath with contents below it. 
Pemberton  I have nothing but praise for this little knife.  If I could get another I'd snap it up in a heartbeat.  The nimbleness of this knife is stellar.  Small yet super capable.  It also looks amazing.  Mini Bic.  Titanium Thrunite, this is a terrific light.  I love having a small light on my especially now that its dark earlier.  I also just love having lights on me.  Red Style PS.  I had a Micra instead but I'm a sucker for small pliers.  Brass Pen.  I liberated this from the box that went around.  Love me a small pen.  I have no clue who made it or how to get refills. 

My Trapper with verse is mated with a Space pen in leather slip.

Tribal lock goes solo also in leather slip. 

I cut a slip in half so the above knives can be carried as such.  I was not using the dual large slip efficiently and this has worked out much better.

So what do I carry off days?   
Title: Re: Reevaluating my off day carry
Post by: Aloha on December 08, 2021, 06:45:38 PM
 :salute: Thank you. 
Title: Re: Reevaluating my off day carry
Post by: Aloha on December 08, 2021, 06:54:55 PM
Alright here we go.  To the average fella this maybe a lot.  To the average gear fella maybe too little.  If I am feeling a strong desire for more I'll pocket one of the other leather slips.  Either small trapper or Copper lock.  Its not often tho which is where I began to feel sad they get left so often. 

Now let me remind you, this is my off day carry when leaving the house. 

We'll get into when I have no plans to leave the house like today.   :facepalm:. 

Title: Re: Reevaluating my off day carry
Post by: Gareth on December 09, 2021, 12:46:15 AM
Always a great thread mate. :hatsoff:  I've been sticking to the pretty minimal doctrine as well (outside of working).  I'm still a big fan of the Nitecore Tiki which is very much in the same style as Rovyvon.  Here's what I currently have in my pockets. Case Stockman, Vic Classic, Tiki and LM Squirt P4.
Title: Re: Reevaluating my off day carry
Post by: Aloha on December 09, 2021, 05:53:12 PM
 :like: Lovely gear.  We are very much of the same mind.  While we may swap in a different slippie its a basic formula we have.  Anything else that goes into my pockets is because I just really wanted to carry it. 
Title: Re: Reevaluating my off day carry
Post by: GearedForwards on December 09, 2021, 10:36:07 PM
Aloha you will be receiving an invoice in the post, I appear to have ordered a Midnite Manager  :facepalm:
Title: Re: Reevaluating my off day carry
Post by: Aloha on December 09, 2021, 11:23:27 PM
I had been wanting to try a newer version rather than the old red leds.  Those were pretty bad and I was not a fan.  When FolderBeholder sent me this one I was really very surprised how decent of a light it is.  Yes there are far better lights but they do not have scissors, pens, phillips, or a blade.  I hope you'll enjoy yours. 
Title: Re: Reevaluating my off day carry
Post by: GearedForwards on December 09, 2021, 11:35:01 PM
I had been wanting to try a newer version rather than the old red leds.  Those were pretty bad and I was not a fan.  When FolderBeholder sent me this one I was really very surprised how decent of a light it is.  Yes there are far better lights but they do not have scissors, pens, phillips, or a blade.  I hope you'll enjoy yours.

I'm sure I will! I'm sure it'll be a useable amount of light indoors and upclose, and it gives me a nice all in one package for when I just throw a single item in a pocket to head to the kitchen from my office or something.

I have to admit I've been tempted since I saw Nix carry one in I think the EDC challenge? But that was so long ago it's easier to blame the most recent tempter  :whistle:

I saw the Vic belt dangler as a suggested item too, but I'm not there yet  :surrender:
Title: Re: Reevaluating my off day carry
Post by: Aloha on December 09, 2021, 11:47:21 PM
I bought the belt hanger a while ago for a specific purpose but as things go it was never used for that purpose.  I then bought another for some reason  :whistle:. 

One day as I was checking out of the store I almost walked out without my wallet.  I placed it on the counter to grab my bags and didn't think.  Once I got home I immediately attached my wallet to the belt hanger as well as my Manager and pill container.  I now have my Midnight Manager the same pill container and Rovyvon A5.  While I love hair singeing lumens the Manager is more than enough.

My garage is pretty pitch black.  Here is a quick shot of the Midnight Manager at work.  I would feel more than comfortable walking in a small very dark space with it.   
Title: Re: Reevaluating my off day carry
Post by: GearedForwards on December 10, 2021, 12:13:00 AM
Oh that's way better than I thought it'd be to be honest!

And I can see why you'd tether your wallet to you, I have the other problem. Getting to the checkout and embarrassingly having to go back home for my wallet  :facepalm:
Title: Re: Reevaluating my off day carry
Post by: Aloha on December 10, 2021, 12:26:53 AM
Using the tether I am confident of not leaving my wallet behind plus I have some where to hang my Midnight Manager and a few other things from.  Its worked out great. 

As for the amount of light on the Manager, it is pretty decent.  Its why its kicked my regular Manager off the hanger.  Quite a lot of utility on a wonderfully small package.   
Title: Re: Reevaluating my off day carry
Post by: Singh on December 10, 2021, 01:35:40 PM
You do you, but that's too much redundancy for me.

 SAK+Light and I call it done.
Title: Re: Reevaluating my off day carry
Post by: Aloha on December 13, 2021, 03:49:25 PM
 :salute:  I cannot leave well enough alone  :whistle:.  I don't mind having a few lights with me.  The Rovyvon light and SAK with my wallet means I'll never be without a SAK + Light.  The SAK alone wont cut it as a stand alone light but its such usable light and adds a fraction of thickness to my Manager scale.  I was already carrying a Manager as it were. 

Adding the Rvoyvon gives me a terrific light also with little weight/size penalty.  I love my trads.  I have become so enamored with them that I have to carry them.  Its the fun in this hobby/collecting that went missing for me.  I know many are very minimal and I enjoy seeing those carries.  Me, I'll carry whats fun plus functional.  Its got to be fun.   
Title: Re: Reevaluating my off day carry
Post by: Singh on December 18, 2021, 12:19:35 PM
Its got to be fun.   

Agreed!
Title: Re: Reevaluating my off day carry
Post by: Aloha on December 18, 2021, 04:37:04 PM
Leaving the house yesterday I attached my wallet lanyard with Midnite Manager/Aurora.  I paused for a moment and thought could I leave with nothing else and be good to go? 

Yes.

Its getting dark earlier so a light is something I like to carry and has proven useful and in some situations necessary.  The Managers light is decent and while its better than nothing it remains only decent.  The tool set however is fantastic and as we tend to say, it punched above it class. 

So, as I pondered what else I'd carry, which tends to be my Pemberton "kit"  the Pemberton doesn't give me much more blade length but does add the little plier of my Style.  The style has scissors and sure its redundant but I chose this tool over my Squirt P4 for this kit simply due to size/weight.  I really like having a small plier on board. 

Ok enough blabber, I decided to leave without the Pemberton kit and only go with what is attached to my wallet lanyard.  Midnight Manager and Aurora would be my companions. 

My partners mom asked if I could stop by to help with a few things.  I deployed my Manger several times to snip this and that.  I also needed the light but as I had already figured my Managers light would be limited.  Indoors its decent but outdoors not so great.  My Aurora was more than enough and with variable settings I could select the right amount for each task. 

The phillips is so great and handles those tiny screws wonderfully.  Being magnetic makes a big difference too.  I used the pen as well.  I can't say I've pushed the blade on this tool before so there was a couple of tasks that had me ask her for a blade.  Not saying my Pemberton small blade would have been enough but I would have not hesitated since its a lot more robust. 

I tend to carry my Large Trapper mostly but my Tribal lock also gets carried a fair bit.  The longer blades offer me quite a bit more utility over the little blade I like so much. 

Any lessons learned?  No.  I knew I'd be short on blade length but it was nothing serious.  Early on in this thread I mentioned I am not trying to solve everything I encounter.  I don't have to be able to take care of every situation that comes up.  Heck I'd carry my Surge if I was wanting to be to go to for most things. 

I carry what I like and whats fun to me.  Yes my tools offer solutions but in no way solve everything and they are not meant to.  I've long since stepped away from that feeling or desire or need.  I love my Pemberton simply because it wonderful in hand and to my eye.  Its short blades would not have helped with yesterdays tasks but its nice to have with me. 

Today I'm headed to work so I'll be tool heavy, Surge with extender and bit kit.  I'll also have a fixed blade with me.  I have more dedicated tool onboard my truck but this tread is about off days so......

       
Title: Re: Reevaluating my off day carry
Post by: Aloha on April 20, 2022, 05:49:58 PM
Anything change?  Yes and no as always.  I don't think this thread went were I thought it would.  I really thought I was trying to find a great tool set to carry by trial and examination.  What I am discovering is I like stuff.  Can I be a minimalist in the very truest meaning?  No.  I carried a very minimal tool set last time I posted and was fine.  No calamities reported. 

Where am I now you may or may not be wondering.  Well, lets start with what I always carry. 

Case Large Trapper Psalm 23 and a ATOM A0 titanium Red led light. 

Pemberton kit.  Pemberton,  Thrunite Ti, mini Bic lighter, Squirt Ps4 ( will be going back to my P4 ). 

Lip balm, POM pepper spray, Mmidnight manager that lives on my keychain. 

These things I truly enjoy and they are more than I'll want. 
Title: Re: Reevaluating my off day carry
Post by: Aloha on April 20, 2022, 06:12:23 PM
Thats the easy part.  I have picked up som really nice things that I also very much enjoy.  So before I get into that let me ask a question/s. 

What do you do when you have gear that you just love?  What do you do when you have really good gear that you want to carry even tho you have your EDC all set? 

There are more questions I could ask but suffice to say this is where I am these days.  I have picked up some gear that I enjoy too much to leave at home and my Pemberton kit is my EDC when off.  The Psalm Trapper is a memento for my sons passing so that will be carried.  I have given up caring a larger SAK for the most part.  I do not carry a full size MT and wont add one any time soon either. 

There are a few items I carry in addition to what you saw above.  Not all mind you but I have been known to carry 2 sets from this next picture. 

The Blue Case mini copperhead is a new favorite.  I carry that along with my wallet.  If not that one then the Natural bone Case or the Tony Bose Case.  One of these three little Case knives is carried very very often.  They are much to awesome not to.

The Pocket Wrench and Case gorgeous blue Copperhead is another thats hard to leave at home. 

The Tribal lock and black Copperlock are two that I enjoy tremendously.  Its a had choice when it comes to those. 

The Case coke bottle and blue light is a fun duo.  That Case is from the 70s and is a new one for me.  Its hard to put it into the drawer and only pick up every once in a while.  That kit get put into my pocket every whim I get. 

The SAK you see is the only SAK I put into my pocket IF I feel the need.  Its a Wenger Security 14. 

The knifes are the two I gravitate to most.  Benchmade with 154cm blade and Spyderco with ZDP.  Both are terrific and either will accomplish what I need.  I bring one when I plan or think I'll have some dirty hard work.   

   
Title: Re: Reevaluating my off day carry
Post by: Aloha on April 20, 2022, 06:15:05 PM
Wallet is the same with nothing new to report. I did get a new phone, well my daughters iPhone 11. 

These trads have taken over.  I cannot get enough of them.  They are more addicting than the MTs ever were.  Having to many awesome trads made my carry so scrambled.  I want to carry them all. 
Title: Re: Reevaluating my off day carry
Post by: Farmer X on April 20, 2022, 06:31:57 PM
What do you do when you have gear that you just love?  What do you do when you have really good gear that you want to carry even tho you have your EDC all set?
The second question is easier to answer: my EDC is never all set. If I want to carry something, sooner or later, I'll carry it.

The first question is a little more complicated. It largely depends on the what part of my collection a piece of gear is placed in. For example, I have a Schrade 833UH that I love. However, as it has never been carried, I will keep it that way. I can't just order a direct replacement from Knife Center or SMKW. Sooner or later I'll find an American-made 833UH that was previously carried and put it in the rotation. My 33OT is occasionally carried.

I've said this before, but it bears repeating: most of my carriers are standard models in current production. SAKs with logos are almost without exception safe queens. Discontinued tools will get carried on occasion if someone carried them before I got them. If I buy a brand-new knife or tool with the intention of carrying it, I'll often purchase a second one to keep as a safe queen.

Sometimes I get lucky and wind up with both a nice and unused discontinued tool and a previously carried counterpart. In that case, the latter will get carry time. I'd love to carry my Schrade 61OT, but it's probably outside of the stoopid blade length limit imposed upon me.

Okay, enough rambling for now.
Title: Re: Reevaluating my off day carry
Post by: Aloha on April 20, 2022, 07:14:33 PM
I appreciate your thoughts.  I want to carry them all.  Why should any sit home?  I have many that I dont carry but im not sure if its more cause I like what I like or replacement would be hard?  That said I couldn't buy a few I do carry easily.   

The ones I got from you all need to be carried.  The Pemberton kit did change and I changed it again one last time.  I had a Style PS then changed it for the Squirt PS4 now will get the Squirt P4 which happened already.  This kit really should be complete.  I enjoy carrying is so much that its not a question of do I put it into my pocket anymore. 

I carry the Psalm 23 trapper but its not one I use a whole lot.  I just never want to be without it.  I do use the red led light I carry with it more than you'd think.  The trapper I made sentimental.  Its one of very few things I hold sentimental "value' with.   

The Copperlock wharncliff I got from you competes with my Tribal lock.  I got the Tribal lock to be my "clean" knife.  I use it for food.  Now I have the Copperlock and they share pocket time.  I love having a knife to use for food and even food prep.  The Tribal lock filled that very well till I got the Copper lock from you.  While I lean more towards the Tribal lock I do really enjoy the Copper lock.   

Its those darn little ones I love so much.  These cause me more deliberation that anything else. 

The mini copper head 62109 ( second knife pic ) and 102109W mini copper head ( first knife pic ) added to my choices/dilemma.  I was going with the Tony Bose 61117 Sway back ( third knife pic ) with out hesitation.  Its really a gorgeous knife. 

The other little ones I have that I don't fret over as much anymore are Old Timer Dog leg 72OT, REX ( this is a big favorite of mine and I dont know why) , Boker USA 99/08 ( not sure what that means ), Kutmaster Utica NY ( this is another that is a huge favorite of mine ), and last but not least Hammer Brand that I covered with leather just for fun.  I'll redo it later with bone or wood.

How do I leave any one of those great knives at home?  Those little knives are my favorites.  I wouldn't have guessed they would be. 

Oh and lets not forget the Case 25 1/2.  This little one is so wonderful.   :facepalm:.  Yes I love them all. 

Rotate some say, carry one a day they say.  I don't know if I'll make it home each day so I want the things I enjoy with me.  Ok thats a bit dramatic. 

Truth is, When I'm off I don't always leave the house.  This makes things pretty easy to decide what I'll carry or more complicated  :oops:   

     

Title: Re: Reevaluating my off day carry
Post by: Aloha on June 13, 2022, 03:07:00 PM
That's not bad for the size, I do think Vic are overdue a revision with more modern LEDs and rechargeable cells like in the Keysmart Pro smart side. My Rovy is the one with UV instead of red light, I like it for playing with GitD stuff, including self charging the body to act like a marker for my organiser.

A lovely set of trads you have to choose from! My trad game is pretty low but I'm building up to it.

This reminds me I should probably update my carry thread  :think:

This is such a terrific idea tho I highly doubt Vic is interested.  I got back to this thread and recalled what you mentioned.  Such a great idea.   :tu:   
Title: Re: Reevaluating my off day carry
Post by: Aloha on June 13, 2022, 05:10:24 PM
Feels like forever since I updated.

I made some changes then went right back to where I was.  Where is that you ask? 

First, I am still very much loving my traditional pocket knives.  I have not been this excited by gear in a long time.  Its also very hard for me to decide on what to carry.  Not much of a "problem" really.   

I always appreciated those who carry pretty much the same items day in and day out.  I'm just not that guy as much as I think I want to be.  Its too much fun to have a new item in pocket.  On that note I picked up a folding knife a little while back.  I've always maintained I'm not the dedicated folder type.  I've shown a few I like and while I like them and carried them I wasn't dedicated to them. 

My new to me knife is Bradley Alias 2.  It's a titanium frame lock with S30V blade.  Yup, that combo has been done to death.  Do we have some odd fascination with titanium?  Maybe its me?  I'm not sure what it is but that material for me evokes a special magnetism ( which is really funny ) to it.  The knife is a really good size which makes me want to carry it.  I like the blade shape.  I like the steel choice.  Even the pocket clip is good.  I've been carrying it for work AND on my off days since getting it.  I got it preloved but in overall nice condition.  The blade is marked 1st production run.  From my limited understanding Benchmade made these for Bradley.  It seemed to be received well but not a ton of info on it.   

I was blessed to get a new light from Sos.  I'll share more later as I am still getting to know it.  What I can say is if you like Anuril UI and customizing your experience then please go for a light with it and enjoy.  I'll follow up later once I spend a little more time with it. 

Sos is so wonderful for sending it my way.  I honestly cannot thank her enough.  Not only is she a terrific member of our MTO family with her insights and user experiences, she's enormously generous and thoughtful.  She had no idea it was recently my Bday so it was an extra special treat for me.  I'm not saying any of this cause she sent me a gift her contributions to our community are to all.  Forever grateful to her  :salute:

Thats it for now but I'll be back to discuss/ramble more.   

 

     
Title: Re: Reevaluating my off day carry
Post by: Aloha on December 15, 2022, 06:40:55 PM
I guess an update before the years ends is in order. 

What a year it was.  Lots of fun stuff to shake up my off day carry.  I wont review everything as I cannot recall most  :facepalm:. 

I'm old and my propensity to forget is real.  I have adopted attaching things to me by leash. 

Lets begin with my wallet.  I tend to keep my wallets a very long time.  My last wallet served me for 20 years.  I then got a Wenger wallet which I carried for a while but then this Nixxon wallet was spotted at the flea market so I picked it up.  I immediately liked the money clip in the middle of the wallet so it replaced my Wenger. 

I'm sure I could go with a smaller wallet but I'm not sure which.  I do have a Trayvax element but I carry cash and its fumbly when it comes to getting at my cash.     

I keep my wallet attached to me using the Victornox belt hanger.  I've used front pocket carry since my teens, this wallet lives in my front left pocket. 

On that ring is my house key, pill bottle, and Rovyvon A5 which dangles into my pocket from a length of paracord.  I had them dangling from the keyring but I prefer them in my pocket so this is what I came up with.  Its working good so far but things evolve.

My Rovyvon has been great.  I mention in some thread that I was changing flat and used the blinking red LEDs on it as a added safety measure.   I was well away from traffic and had my emergency flashers on but it was nice to have this light.  I've also used it several times on my cap as a headlamp.  Great light so far. 
   
My Midnight Manger is the only thing that freely dangles.  Over the years I've become less dangling.  Keeping the Manager there also gives me access as needed.  Its a light, pen, scissor, and knife.  I reach for it quite often.  The quick release is great.  No fumbling to get to my tool.   

In my left back pocket is a bandana and my phone ( phone in pic is a prop ) I have the iPhone11 in a catalyst case with its own lanyard.  I'm telling you, I need things secure to me.   

My right rear pocket also had a bandana.  I was gifted quite a lot of bandanas so I carry a couple every day.   

My right front pocket is where I carry my Pemberton kit.  This is truly my EDC.  I rarely leave the house without it.  You can see by the polish on the leather its had a lot of pocket time.
 
In that kit is, 
GEC Pemberton, Micra, ThruniteTi, Mini Sharpie, Brass Pen ( Sos surprise box ), Mini Bic.
The leather case is Easyant, got it off the big river site.  Its been great and has held up wonderfully.   I keep that kit on a paracord leash as you can see.   Carrying it that way keeps pocket weight/sag down and the belt clip is a place to attach other items like car keys and my Maxpedition Micro kit. 

It would seem my belt is weighted down.  Its not actually.  I tried to carry a small bag and truthfully I am still looking.  I wanted to attach a strap to my Maxpedition EDC pouch but I'm not sure thats the option I want.  The Micro is pretty light and the contents have been selected from needs over time.  I did put together a bag but its a lot of stuff that I've never really "needed" on my off days around town.  It has been carried when I'd be away from my vehicle for a while.  I have charger and cords for my phone, little larger FAK, larger light, back up cells for light, etc. It really became a man purse.  Thats another story tho.   

My Maxpedition Micro kits contents,   

Left side.
face mask, eye glass repair kit.  Rolaids, Doctor picks tooth picks ( awesome ), another mini Bic, 2 safety pins, zip ties, uncle bills sliver gripper.
Right side.
cough drops with Vitamin C,  a simple boo boo kit containing a few bandaids, antibiotic cream, burn cream, moleskin, gauze.   The blue tipped thing is a stainless steel straw, 10ft paracord, alkaseltzer, tucked in the pocket not shown is 5 ft duct tape on a used gift card.
Front carries hand sanitizer.   

POM Pepper spray is carried in front right accessory pocket.  I like that this pepper spray doesn't look like the typical.   

This is my EDC-off days.  Whats shown is what I carry on my off days everyday.

I do add in stuff as y'all know.  Because its not the same each time I thought showing exactly what I carry every off day would be best. 
       
 

 

           

Title: Re: Reevaluating my off day carry
Post by: Aloha on December 15, 2022, 06:42:51 PM
Pemberton kit and Maxpdition Micro kit. 
Title: Re: Reevaluating my off day carry
Post by: Aloha on December 15, 2022, 06:44:12 PM
POM Pepper spray and how I carry it all. 
Title: Re: Reevaluating my off day carry
Post by: MadPlumbarian on December 15, 2022, 07:23:17 PM
POM Pepper spray and how I carry it all.
I have two pair of those identical pants/shorts, same color and all! I saw a pair and was like OMG there so expensive, but there was a deal, if you bought 2 you got a % off, but then if you spent over so much you got the pads thrown in for free, so by the time I bought 2 pair the price got knocked down to the price of one plus the free pads and free shipping, like totally made out! But those freaking paints/shorts were the best freaking find I ever made!
JR
Title: Re: Reevaluating my off day carry
Post by: Aloha on December 15, 2022, 07:42:03 PM
I am still evolving.  I'll likely always be which is the fun of it all.  That fun is whats most important to me.  If its not fun then why the heck bother?  There are many things I want to carry, mostly notably my Tony Bose Stockman.  It fits great in the front left accessory pocket.  I also like to carry my Tribal Lock which also fits great in that pocket.  Its hard to decide which to carry.  I'll say the TB Stockman generally wins.     

Next up are two Diodrio kits that have my beloved Leatherman Squirts in. 

Case Wharncliff Copperhead kit with Squirt P4 and lumen top worm AAA.

Case Sowbelly kit with Squirt PS4 and Fenix E05 AAA.

I will pop one of these into my back right pocket. I thought about putting the content of these kits into my Maxpedition Micro.  Maybe I will play around with that next year.  I do enjoy the leather slips which has kept me from doing that.

Its been fun.  It continues to be fun.  Leaving the house on my day off with some nice gear is fun.  Whether you carry a full on bag or just a Classic I hope you are also having fun.   
Title: Re: Reevaluating my off day carry
Post by: Aloha on December 15, 2022, 07:45:43 PM
 :facepalm:  I'll have to try and post pics later.  Not sure why they wont post.
Title: Re: Reevaluating my off day carry
Post by: Gareth on December 17, 2022, 04:02:09 PM
This is not me.  Not any more anyway.  :whistle:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_5nZ5bH2-hw
Title: Re: Reevaluating my off day carry
Post by: Aloha on December 17, 2022, 04:26:35 PM
 :rofl:  Thank you, that was one of the funniest things I've seen in a while. 

Confession, when I was a younger man, I also carried a lanyard around my neck.  It began life as a whistle lanyard that morphed into carrying my car key and house key.  I then attached a safety pin.  This was late 80s and it seemed like a game changer  :whistle:.  I don't recall it lasting long. 

The books and other things in baggies  :rofl:.  Brilliant. 
Title: Re: Reevaluating my off day carry
Post by: Aloha on December 17, 2022, 04:28:25 PM
 ;)
Title: Re: Reevaluating my off day carry
Post by: Farmer X on December 17, 2022, 11:12:54 PM
 :like:
Title: Re: Reevaluating my off day carry
Post by: Poncho65 on December 21, 2022, 07:54:09 PM
Always love Viva La Dirt League anything :rofl: :like: :like:

;)

Thos all look sweet :drool: :like:
Title: Re: Reevaluating my off day carry
Post by: Enginears on December 24, 2022, 08:07:08 PM
I just read through the evolution of this thread, very cool tools. Thank you for sharing. :like:
Title: Re: Reevaluating my off day carry
Post by: Aloha on December 24, 2022, 08:26:59 PM
Thank you.  :hatsoff:
Title: Re: Reevaluating my off day carry
Post by: Aloha on June 27, 2023, 04:30:51 PM
Not even sure what I am posting about anymore  :think:.  Mostly chatting I think these days. 

Pictures of some things to follow. 
Wallet set up is mostly same.  I use the Victorinox belt clip to secure my wallet, midnight manager, and Rovyvon light.  This works so its been mostly left as is.

I've just recently put this kit together and am liking it. 

 
Title: Re: Reevaluating my off day carry
Post by: Aloha on June 27, 2023, 04:44:36 PM
That is what I'm carrying and its been great so far.  I shared that I used the PW2 on a portable carport I was assembling recently.  Worked like a charm. 

I enjoyed carrying my PW2 when I got it in 2013 or so but stopped at some point for reason/s I cannot recall.  As this thread has progressed I see I still have somewhat of a "core" set to which I add in when the mood strikes. 

Never setting out to become a minimalist nor solving all issues with my pocket kit I feel good about the journey I am on.  Its fun changing things up while still having things of convenience with me. 

I have really enjoyed the Gerber EAB.  It was a tool I bought and almost immediate put aside.  I had enough sharps so it sat.  I mentioned somewhere on the forum about sharpening the blade on it.  Its not about frugality more than I have the ability.  I've given the blade a few sessions on my Spyderco Sharpmaker.  I quite enjoy using the EAB for quite a few chores.  Most recently it was used on bags and bags of mulch.  I enjoy using it to break down boxes.  I use old t shirts for rags and its been a joy to use on them. 

Having paper and pen plus sharpie are great for my aging memory.  I can also diagram out things.  I'm currently doing a front walkway so putting ideas down is convenient.  I had flat pencil in there but I changed it out for the sharpie.  Not sure yet which is more useful. 

Thats it for now.       
Title: Re: Reevaluating my off day carry
Post by: Farmer X on June 28, 2023, 05:32:18 AM
Great little set-up! :tu: I'm thinking of buying or making a little double slip/wallet combo like that.
Title: Re: Reevaluating my off day carry
Post by: Aloha on June 28, 2023, 05:37:58 AM
They are fun to make.  I made one which has been decent.  This particular brand is fair priced and decently made.  I have been enjoying using them.

Title: Re: Reevaluating my off day carry
Post by: Aloha on January 23, 2024, 06:31:58 PM
This thread began because i really enjoy seeing what others carry.  Taking a look at what I carry and why I realized I just enjoy carrying "stuff". 

7 years later and I still enjoy carrying stuff  :D.  Its actually been longer than that but who's counting? 

Here is a sampling of categories I carry.  Over the many years I've determined these categories to be what makes sense to me.  I hesitate to call them anything specific.  I've read "core" or "base" but I'm not sure what sounds right to me  :dunno:.     

Cutting.  I find it interesting in my day to day how much stuff I cut.  Its not only amazn boxes or mail.  I do a lot of gardening and love to keep busy around my house so there are plenty of opportunities to need a knife.  It was literally pizza this past Friday. 

Light.  In my neck of the woods it will eventually get dark.  My back yard has motion lights but its nice to light areas that are not well lit.  My neighborhood is older and there are few street lights so when we take our evening walks a light is essential.  I have a truck with a Leer Contractor top and lighting is sparse.  I changed a tire fairly recent and my lights were wonderfully helpful. 

SAK.  Convenience.  That same Friday I mentioned I cut a pizza I also opened a bottle with the cap lighter.  The scissors are great for an impromptu trim of my beard or mustache.  I have cut my finger nail/s a few times.  While many cans these days have pull tops there are many that don't and I love using the can opener for those.  Ever needed to make a hole?  I've used my SAKs awl quite a bit.  My hanging plants appreciate drainage and some pots dont have holes. 

Cordage.  Pick your flavor.  Mine is 550 and its been more than handy.  That Friday I spoke of previously, I used 550 cord to tie up some bed slats to make them easier to carry.  Last night I used some to tie down a awning bungie cord that snapped do to winds.  I've used it more than I can count over the years actually.  I tend to carry a few hanks these days since its been very practical for me. 

Writing instrument.  Pick your favorite.  I like to have a mini sharpie and pen with me.  I will also add in a pencil simply because the occasions for one have come up more. 

Paper.  I have a small enough pad to make this very easy to do.  I don't do lists on my phone.  I like to write down things.  I should say I love to journal if that means anything to anyone?  Paper is essential for me. 

Booboo stuff.  Funny enough its rarely for me so I carry for my family.  Just a few things on hand that are easy to carry.

 What might seem like a lot to some might very well be minimal to others.  This is where I'll openly say that I enjoy gear and stuff.  I would not have lasted as long on this forum if I didn't.  I most certainly will carry something just because I enjoy it.  Never the course of this thread I have reconciled with myself that I really enjoy my things and if I choose to carry several of each category then so be it. 

If I choose to carry additional items because it feel like it then so be it.  I am having a lot of fun with those extras items.  Heck I am having more fun these days with it all. 

Thank you if you've read this far.  I'll post up some pictures of the items in the categories I've listed.  I'll also post up additional items that are fun.   

       
Title: Re: Reevaluating my off day carry
Post by: Murphy Slaw on January 25, 2024, 02:21:57 PM
Love those Case pocketknives. I always have at least one on me, usually a medium Stockman or a Russlock.

I just enjoy them, they remind me of relatives who have passed on.
Title: Re: Reevaluating my off day carry
Post by: Aloha on January 25, 2024, 04:34:00 PM
I've been looking at the Russlock but have yet to get one.  Glad you enjoy carrying trads and Case in particular.  :salute: 

I'm a big fan of Case knives.  I initially stayed away because I let the negative talk online influence me  :-[.  Once I decided to pull the trigger and find out for myself I understood why this company has been around for so long.  There is a pattern and handle material for anyone. 

Are there some issues?  Yes.  Are those issues preventing me from loving my Case knives?  No way.  I'm glad I decided to purse Case instead of letting the negative talk keep me away.  I am guaranteed to have a Case knife or three in my pocket everyday  :D.     

"I just enjoy them, they remind me of relatives who have passed on." 

I understand this sentiment completely.  Enjoyment is such a huge part of my journey.  Prepared seemed to take a primary role in what I carried early on.  I'm talking well before my MTO days.  I can carry what I enjoy AND be prepared. 

Today I am carrying my Tribal Lock and a medium Stockman. 

   
Title: Re: Reevaluating my off day carry
Post by: Murphy Slaw on January 26, 2024, 02:54:20 PM
Carried this one for several years. So easy to open, great size.

A mighty fine knife.

(https://i.imgur.com/Ci3nXxk.png?2)
Title: Re: Reevaluating my off day carry
Post by: Aloha on January 26, 2024, 06:25:26 PM
 :hatsoff: I be proud to own that one.  I can see why you've carried it for so long.  Was this handed down to you? 
Title: Re: Reevaluating my off day carry
Post by: David Bowen on January 26, 2024, 09:59:46 PM
I've got a Russlock, cheap one. Plastic handle with American flag on the side. It was my first case and it holds memories for me. I own quite a few cases and I'm not disappointed in any of them. I learned early on that they're not perfect, but there's charm in those flaws. There are a lot of collectors out there, but I feel they were meant to be users.

Sent from my SM-G996U using Tapatalk

Title: Re: Reevaluating my off day carry
Post by: Aloha on January 27, 2024, 12:53:42 AM
 :iagree:  Love to carry and use mine.  My Tony Bose Premium Stockman is a great example.  I bought it thinking I'd keep it pristine but nope, its in my pocket today and I've already used it a bunch.   
Title: Re: Reevaluating my off day carry
Post by: Murphy Slaw on January 30, 2024, 02:25:01 PM
Now I want a 6375 Amber bone with carbon steel.

Call me crazy...
Title: Re: Reevaluating my off day carry
Post by: nate j on January 31, 2024, 06:17:17 AM
This thread began because i really enjoy seeing what others carry.  Taking a look at what I carry and why I realized I just enjoy carrying "stuff". 

7 years later and I still enjoy carrying stuff  :D.  Its actually been longer than that but who's counting? 

Here is a sampling of categories I carry.  Over the many years I've determined these categories to be what makes sense to me.  I hesitate to call them anything specific.  I've read "core" or "base" but I'm not sure what sounds right to me  :dunno:.     

Cutting.  I find it interesting in my day to day how much stuff I cut.  Its not only amazn boxes or mail.  I do a lot of gardening and love to keep busy around my house so there are plenty of opportunities to need a knife.  It was literally pizza this past Friday. 

Light.  In my neck of the woods it will eventually get dark.  My back yard has motion lights but its nice to light areas that are not well lit.  My neighborhood is older and there are few street lights so when we take our evening walks a light is essential.  I have a truck with a Leer Contractor top and lighting is sparse.  I changed a tire fairly recent and my lights were wonderfully helpful. 

SAK.  Convenience.  That same Friday I mentioned I cut a pizza I also opened a bottle with the cap lighter.  The scissors are great for an impromptu trim of my beard or mustache.  I have cut my finger nail/s a few times.  While many cans these days have pull tops there are many that don't and I love using the can opener for those.  Ever needed to make a hole?  I've used my SAKs awl quite a bit.  My hanging plants appreciate drainage and some pots dont have holes. 

Cordage.  Pick your flavor.  Mine is 550 and its been more than handy.  That Friday I spoke of previously, I used 550 cord to tie up some bed slats to make them easier to carry.  Last night I used some to tie down a awning bungie cord that snapped do to winds.  I've used it more than I can count over the years actually.  I tend to carry a few hanks these days since its been very practical for me. 

Writing instrument.  Pick your favorite.  I like to have a mini sharpie and pen with me.  I will also add in a pencil simply because the occasions for one have come up more. 

Paper.  I have a small enough pad to make this very easy to do.  I don't do lists on my phone.  I like to write down things.  I should say I love to journal if that means anything to anyone?  Paper is essential for me. 

Booboo stuff.  Funny enough its rarely for me so I carry for my family.  Just a few things on hand that are easy to carry.

 What might seem like a lot to some might very well be minimal to others.  This is where I'll openly say that I enjoy gear and stuff.  I would not have lasted as long on this forum if I didn't.  I most certainly will carry something just because I enjoy it.  Never the course of this thread I have reconciled with myself that I really enjoy my things and if I choose to carry several of each category then so be it. 

If I choose to carry additional items because it feel like it then so be it.  I am having a lot of fun with those extras items.  Heck I am having more fun these days with it all. 

Thank you if you've read this far.  I'll post up some pictures of the items in the categories I've listed.  I'll also post up additional items that are fun.   

     
Your post reminded me of the modern ten essential groups.  Of course, I doubt most of us carry all ten regularly when not hiking or camping, but the idea remains.
Title: Re: Reevaluating my off day carry
Post by: Aloha on January 31, 2024, 03:05:54 PM
I had a cleanup of items and while I was at it I also went thru out hiking packs.  I might not have all ten items but I come very close.  Cover was not there and a couple other items. 

As to my off day carry items, I have found a sweet spot I think  :think:.   
Title: Re: Reevaluating my off day carry
Post by: Aloha on February 05, 2024, 07:02:59 PM
It has got to be fun.  This is always such a big part of what I carry.  In my intro I mention I am not a minimalist.  I am not planning for anything in particular.  In my 5 plus decades I am comfortable without many things.  I do however like to have several items with me. 

I found this little pouch at the flea market.  Its nothing special in terms of materials or craftsmanship.  I should say prior to this I carried a Maxpedition Micro.  I should also say the fun part of my journey is trying new things. 

This Vans pouch is a great size in that I cannot add a lot to it like the Micro.  In it I carry what I have found to be useful. 
 
The 91mm Compact and full size Bic lighter or for size reference. 

The keyring is how I carry it.  Its clipped to a belt clip.  The contents are,

AAA Atom A0 Red Led in Titanium.  I've had this light since 2015 and have carried it on and off since.  I realized I enjoy it too much to leave it at home.  I've used it enough over those years that it was time to make it part of my off day EDC.

550 Paracord.  I have a need for binding more than I realize.  Just yesterday moving a couple dressers I used it to keep the drawers closed while we carried it to the truck.  I think its about 8 feet? 

Hand sanitizer.  Even before it was a thing to carry I always had some in my vehicle and close at hand.  Carrying it is easy so I do.

Meds.  Bandaids, gauze, and cough drops. 

Min Bic lighter.  I don't smoke but I love my incense.  We also light a lot of candles at home.  Funny enough it was needed once for a birthday parties candles. 

Title: Re: Reevaluating my off day carry
Post by: Aloha on February 05, 2024, 07:17:20 PM
Next up is what I have in my pocket.  I carry this in my front right pocket.  The leather organizer is an inexpensive Diodrio brand I got for about $10-$15 if I'm correct.  I have several from this company and I've been very happy with them. 

What I'm carrying currently and have been are,

Note book.  ICRS.  I seriously need to write things down.  I enjoy writing things down.  I'm an avid journal keeper so its second nature to me. 

Pen.  I got this from the surprise box that is being passed around.  Its Ti but as many know Ti can be heavy.  Its bolt action which is fun.  Because it came from the Sos surprise box its special to me.   

Mini Sharpie.  I've tried knockoffs but they are not worth it to me.  Its a good additional writing implement. 

AAA Light.  Thrunite Ti.  I've had this light a while now and love the features.  It has a very low as you can see in the pic and a pretty decent high.  It also has strobe which I also like on my lights.  I don't recall all the specs sorry.  It was a Xmas special from what I do recall. 

Leatherrman Style PS.  While I am a huge Squirt fan this tool fits perfectly in this organizer.  Its no slouch either and I enjoy carrying it. 

Case Teardrop.  This is a special knife for me.  A wonderful member/friend gifted it to me.  I have and will carry it for the foreseeable future.  Items like this that mean a lot to me.  I carry it because of that and its also a great little knife.  Looks amazing too. 

The 91mm Compact and full size Bic are for size reference.       
Title: Re: Reevaluating my off day carry
Post by: styx on February 06, 2024, 09:10:40 PM
that is very well thought out. now you got me interested in that Vans pouch
Title: Re: Reevaluating my off day carry
Post by: Aloha on February 06, 2024, 09:21:41 PM
 :D I've seen nice ones since and Alpaka as well as Viperade have some that look great. 
Title: Re: Reevaluating my off day carry
Post by: styx on February 06, 2024, 10:29:28 PM
Alpaka has some really nice gear. tomtoc as well
Title: Re: Reevaluating my off day carry
Post by: Aloha on February 06, 2024, 10:56:23 PM
I have the Alpaka tech case in multicam which is terrific. 
Title: Re: Reevaluating my off day carry
Post by: styx on February 06, 2024, 11:16:19 PM
anybody ever told you that you're a bad influence?
Title: Re: Reevaluating my off day carry
Post by: Murphy Slaw on February 07, 2024, 01:34:58 PM
Nice set up.
Title: Re: Reevaluating my off day carry
Post by: Aloha on February 07, 2024, 06:40:50 PM
anybody ever told you that you're a bad influence?

 :think:  Maybe once or twice  ;)

Nice set up.

Thank you.  Its a very easy way to carry what I enjoy carrying.  Over the course of this thread I realized I enjoy carrying certain items and the little Vans pouch made it very easy to do so without cramming a lot of other things in.  The leather organizer are my additional items and both are separate from each other. 
Title: Re: Reevaluating my off day carry
Post by: Blunt Object on February 07, 2024, 06:56:24 PM
:D I've seen nice ones since and Alpaka as well as Viperade have some that look great.

I have a Viperade organizer, VE3 EDC they call it. I dunno, looked better in the pictures. The material is crazy thick and stiff, making the thing very bulky, and I don't find the zipper compartment very useful or handy for my needs. It's better for organizing things in, say, a backpack compartment. My idea of EDC organizer is smaller. I mean, it can handle my tools OK, but I wouldn't stick it in my front pocket. The quality is fine, it's a keeper, but not for intended use.
Title: Re: Reevaluating my off day carry
Post by: Aloha on February 07, 2024, 07:13:59 PM
 :tu:  Thank you.  I never pulled to trigger on the Viperade since I found this Vans pouch.  I was using a Maxpedition Micro which worked great but those fantastic pouches tempt me to add more and more into them.  With the Vans pouch I am very limited and thats prefect since I only want to carry whats in it to begin with. 

Title: Re: Reevaluating my off day carry
Post by: styx on February 07, 2024, 09:53:33 PM
I know the feeling. Got one organizer, then figured that I probably get away with more with a bigger one and now it seems that I'd have to carry a 20L backpack to accommodate things I rarely use. That's why I appreciate the idea of that Vans and Alpaka
Title: Re: Reevaluating my off day carry
Post by: Aloha on February 08, 2024, 04:55:27 PM
In reevaluating my off day carry I found myself carrying the same type items tho maybe not the exact same items. 

I've looked over some of my older posts and I've been consistent with, knife, light, cordage, paper/pen, lighter, sak, bandages/meds.  I have and do add in other things because its fun.  When I carry 2 traditional folders its not because it need 2.  I enjoy them so I'll carry what I enjoy. 

Wallet, phone, keys are the other items that don't need mentioning since I believe we all carry these items. 

As mentioned I do have a Alpaka Tech Case.  It was meant to carry my charger, cables, and other items I'd like to have with me when I'll be away from my vehicle for a duration of time.  AN example is when I was at our local Zoo.  Another example is at a graduation we attended.  Visiting friends tho I may not bring the bag in with me and will likely leave it in the car.  If I am going with someone in their car somewhere. 

Truth is, I can leave it behind without any concerns.  I have left it behind multiple times.  What I have shown I carry is what I am very comfortable with.  The Alpaka Tech Case contains items that are nice to have. 

I think I have mentioned how my small FAK has come into play on multiple occasions?  I've handed meds from it to others.  The RED led has aided a friend reading a menu in a dark lit restaurant.  I've already mentioned the cordage and lighter.  My Vans kit is terrific.  My Alpaka bag extends my capabilities a little further.  Items that have been useful to me or others but not as often as my little Vans kit items. 

In the next post I'll show this bag and the items.   
Title: Re: Reevaluating my off day carry
Post by: Aloha on February 08, 2024, 08:40:28 PM
Alright.  Lets start off with I have tried several bags and large pouches for this very purpose the Alpaka case is now serving. 

I am not a bag guy.  I will carry one when the situation calls for it. 

I am a passenger. 
I will be away from my vehicle or too far from my vehicle. 
I will be at a function away from my vehicle. 

See a theme?  Both our vehicles have items stowed for breakdowns, emergencies,   etc. 

Ok on to the Alpaka Tech Case. 
First Pic.
The items shown with the Case are for size reference. 
L-R  Vans pouch, the next items are from Maxpedition, 3x5 note book, Micro, EDC pouch.
I picked the case up at the thrift store so I did not pay full price.  Its Multicam and from what I read it was limited edition.  I don't have all the specs sorry.  It their first edition.  They made changes on V2 that seem very nice.  The zippers are very rattly. 
Second Pic.
I used shrink wrap to cut down on the rattle.  Its worked pretty good.   

When I carry this case the Vans pouch is left behind. 

Third Pic
In the front zippered pocket are;
Wet wipes, body wipe, 2 hand sanitizers ( I hand these others ), the case has soap sheets ( add water and its hand soap ). 
 
Yes well before 2020 I was a stickler for clean hands.  I'll wipe a surface using the wet wipes.

Fourth Pic,
Inside pic.  It accordion splays open which is very nice and can sit up without issue.  I love the blood orange inside.  This case is not packed out IMO.



   

Title: Re: Reevaluating my off day carry
Post by: Aloha on February 08, 2024, 08:54:41 PM
First pic.
There is a loop for a writing instrument so I add a dual sharpie and shortie G5 pen. In that payer of the bag I also carry a grocery bag.  I carry a bag with my phone cord, wall plug, USB LED light, cordage, spray hand sanitizer, 2 energy drinks I can add to a 16oz bottle of water.  I also have glucose tablets. 

Second pic.
Doterra essential oils, meds, medical kit, mirror, DrPicks, tweezer, lip balm, pouch with a utility towel plus burn creme plus sun screen plus ointment.  USB drive.

Third pic.
Utensils made from bamboo. stainless steel straw. cough drops. ear plugs. full size Bic lighter. few zip ties. safety pins a 2 paperclips, eye glass repair kit. PW2, whistle, bare bones lock pick items.  Neodymium magnet.

Fourth pic.
Carabiner that attaches to outside of pack. writing pad, bandana. 
Title: Re: Reevaluating my off day carry
Post by: Aloha on February 08, 2024, 09:02:44 PM
First pic.
The zipper has a tool if you will.  Mine came with a phone stand.  Its neat tho I have not used it.  I had to look up how to deploy it hahaa. 

Second pic.
I will decide which battery bank I take of these.  The white is nice since I can use it without cords.  Its also 10K.  The small black one is 2200 and the larger black one is 5200.  These items fit very well into the case. 

I don't have a weight but if it was terrible I wouldn't bring it or I'd switch to another system.

I do have two other bags that are very similar tho one has more capacity.  That one can hold a water bottle 16oz and snacks.  As you can see I don't have sharps in the bag mostly so I can bring it anywhere.  I leave my leather organizer along with my Vans pouch when I carry this bag. 

     
Title: Re: Reevaluating my off day carry
Post by: styx on February 08, 2024, 09:56:19 PM
ok, i see what you mean. might have to copy some of the ideas  here to see if they work and pan out for me
Title: Re: Reevaluating my off day carry
Post by: Aloha on February 08, 2024, 10:05:25 PM
 :tu:

 I don't add in things just because I'm out and about and could've used an item I didn't have.  I do consider why, how likely, and would I be ok if not, when deciding on carrying or not carrying something.  I'm not really trying to cover all scenarios.     

   
Title: Re: Reevaluating my off day carry
Post by: styx on February 09, 2024, 11:38:49 PM
not sure if it is feasible to cover everything. for me it is mostly toy/bike quick fix, ouchie kit and "daddy, i'm thirsty/hungry". the bigger problem is when we go to any relatives which are almost exclusively older women at this point so there is always something to fix but no appropriate tool and no charger for any of our electronic devices.
the latter of these 2 was an odd occurrence a few years ago as well. went to a major IT brand event, 60ish people in that field on the bus and 0 external batteries, only a dozen or so wall chargers and almost no one had extra cables.
Title: Re: Reevaluating my off day carry
Post by: Aloha on February 10, 2024, 02:59:53 AM
When my kids were younger I had quite the "diaper" bag.  Talk about being prepared for most anything.  I do find myself feeling ready to take on most things with whats in my pockets.  As to chargers and cables  :twak:.  I almost got a multi wall plug just in case someone else was using the plug  ;).  I decided against it.  My 10K batter bank should be enough.  So far it has been. 

I have to say regarding fun, its fun to assemble these kits.   
Title: Re: Reevaluating my off day carry
Post by: Grand_Banana on February 10, 2024, 04:37:50 AM
When my kids were younger I had quite the "diaper" bag.  Talk about being prepared for most anything.  I do find myself feeling ready to take on most things with whats in my pockets.  As to chargers and cables  :twak:.  I almost got a multi wall plug just in case someone else was using the plug  ;).  I decided against it.  My 10K batter bank should be enough.  So far it has been. 

I have to say regarding fun, its fun to assemble these kits.

Really liking the breakdowns and analysis with your kit! 

I’m at the diaper bag stage right now. I’ve found a smaller timbuk2 messenger bag works really well for the actually diaper kit, extra clothes for both kids, snacks, FAK, and I can still fit my Wave kit and all the other everyday day carry normally in my pockets.

I’ve also had a timbuk2 that I think is called the catapult for many years now that serves as my travel bag. It’s particularly useful for overseas when I’ve needed the temporary mobile, hotspot and charger bank. Front pockets that fit that stuff great. Inside has an iPad pocket and zippered compartment, but the downside is everything is loose. I need to upgrade to something with organizer pockets or interior MOLLE for pouches.
Title: Re: Reevaluating my off day carry
Post by: Aloha on February 18, 2024, 07:31:16 PM
Love carrying cordage.  Random enough uses keep me carrying some cordage with me at all times.  I'm pretty sure this will last a lot longer than the last piece of cordage I had there.