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Tool Talk => Swiss Army Knights Forum => Topic started by: Marc_in_NS on March 08, 2018, 06:03:54 PM
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Nice!
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I figured, I too, could have a hang out. A place to chat about SAKs or any other SAK related activities. No gimmick, prizes or empty Jaffa cake promises... :P
just plain ol’SAK fun.
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Nice!
Thanks Ron, coming from you it means a lot.
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I'll hop threads. Just for you! :dd:
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Thanks Mechy!
Have you got a SwissChamp?
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Nice!
Thanks Ron, coming from you it means a lot.
You do know I´m a fruitcake do you?
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Nice!
Thanks Ron, coming from you it means a lot.
You do know I´m a fruitcake do you?
Aren’t we all?...just by being here!
PS the wife calls me fruit loop...
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The SwissChamp depicted above is my first one. Wow, what a toolset. It was monogrammed, gifted years ago and never taken out of the fancy leather sheath. Some $40.00 Cdn dollars. I though it would be cool to, of course, abolish the monogram; then sitting at my desk the first scale I found was a red one...the rest is history...a bi-colour CDNCHAMP was born...
You can all thank me later. I just hope to find a tiny stainless steel maple leaf to affix to this beast. Anyone ever done that before?
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Thanks Mechy!
Have you got a SwissChamp?
2 actualy.
One was gifted by my girlfriend when I just started the hobby.
She bought it for me at a yard sale from a TSA-lot-buying-guy.
My second one I bought myself last may because it was offered as "Victorinox Swisschamp" on a local second hand site for €50. It turned out to be a 15min drive from my place. I placed a bid of €45 after seeing it had the full SOS set and got a message that I could go and get it.
Good deal! :tu:
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Awesome deal!
Now that I have one, I am thinking of joining the ranks of the “never going back” crowd. What a beast (in a good way)
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Here´s my black one, and its predecessor the Champion. That one is about 35 years old.
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Nice, Marc!
The Champ has awlways seemed too big (or not big enough) for me. But I do admire them. :tu:
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There's my first and currently only one. I had the scales swapped as the representative at Warsaw Showroom just on Wednesday last week.
(https://i.imgur.com/gxs4N53.jpg)
They asked for 13 PLN (circa €3.25 for putting on new scales, an engraving (my name) and a new toothpick and the pin my old scales didn't have. Most importantly the representative spoke great English, was extremely respectful and even interested in my stories, even as we didn't end up buying anything else, though I guess at an official store that should be expected.
Today I figured to also give it the well deserved and overdue bath, it's been EDC without exceptions since the day I acquired it, so it gets a bit dirty, so I definitely get "never going back" the SwissChamp just feels like a companion for life.
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Here´s my black one, and its predecessor the Champion. That one is about 35 years old.
Nice looking samples, I have the three Champions, a, b, and c... according to wiki. The “b” model is currently awaiting new scales. I’ll post pics when it is repaired.
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:ahhh
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Nice, Marc!
The Champ has awlways seemed too big (or not big enough) for me. But I do admire them. :tu:
They are easy to love...
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There's my first and currently only one. I had the scales swapped as the representative at Warsaw Showroom just on Wednesday last week.
They asked for 13 PLN (circa €3.25 for putting on new scales, an engraving (my name) and a new toothpick and the pin my old scales didn't have. Most importantly the representative spoke great English, was extremely respectful and even interested in my stories, even as we didn't end up buying anything else, though I guess at an official store that should be expected.
Today I figured to also give it the well deserved and overdue bath, it's been EDC without exceptions since the day I acquired it, so it gets a bit dirty, so I definitely get "never going back" the SwissChamp just feels like a companion for life.
Looks very nice with the new scales.
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These are my Champions a and c. Both were mint when I bought them, very nice examples of swiss craftsmanship.
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My “b” sample is also near mint, the tools are. The scales were cracked though, kinda like they were shrunk due to heat exposure! So i’ve Now a set of old solid scales coming from the UK, one of our Mods was very kind to me... :)
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That bailed one with long nail file made me pick up my jaw...
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The SwissChamp depicted above is my first one. Wow, what a toolset. It was monogrammed, gifted years ago and never taken out of the fancy leather sheath. Some $40.00 Cdn dollars. I though it would be cool to, of course, abolish the monogram; then sitting at my desk the first scale I found was a red one...the rest is history...a bi-colour CDNCHAMP was born...
You can all thank me later. I just hope to find a tiny stainless steel maple leaf to affix to this beast. Anyone ever done that before?
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I had a SwissChamp once... good times :D
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170510/663382021fb12947ba993d2cd1f309ac.jpg)
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Way to spoil the roll Fiddy...
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:like: the red and white scales :tu:
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:like: the red and white scales :tu:
I know hey! So simple :)
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I had a SwissChamp once... good times :D
Glennfiddich;
What did you do? Drop it? Haha
Boing! Darn springs. Seriously though, taking them apart and re-assembly is a lot of fun. I do a lot of pocket watch strip down, cleaning, oiling, adjustments and timing...SAK are more fun. HEHE
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That bailed one with long nail file made me pick up my jaw...
It’s a beauty...i really hope it did not hurt too much... :B:
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Did someone mention swisschamp?(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180309/53a9a23f8a5630046ef7c7d79f499e67.jpg)
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That bailed one with long nail file made me pick up my jaw...
It’s a beauty...i really hope it did not hurt too much... :B:
Nah, they bolted it back together :facepalm:
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Poor kid
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Did someone mention swisschamp?
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Nice and well organized, I should print that for future reference.
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I might take this CDNCHAMP to an engraving shop and get a maple leaf etched on the scale (s)
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Just found this thread - what happened to this one Marc?
My blue translucent one is at home, but I have posted pics in the SC thread.
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Just found this thread - what happened to this one Marc?
My blue translucent one is at home, but I have posted pics in the SC thread.
The scale, on the Phillips side were cracked and missing a little part (tweezer slot). And the scales were also exposed to some heat. Otherwise this ol’ champion “b” is mint. I have a set of older solid scales coming from the UK. This knife will be back in shape soon.
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Great thread Marc :cheers: I love the Swisschamp and use to carry it more before I made the mod that I carry now :salute: :like:
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Thanks ponch!
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Well, today I received my new, to me, solid SAK scales. They are not exactly the type I needed since they do not sport the hole required to insert the 2.5mm silver/Nickle pin; which, acts to retain the bail in place. They do have the three recessed openings to “snap” onto the brass bushing normally found on 91mm SAK models.
THANK YOU Chris!! :salute:
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Marc, if you're careful you can cut a slot for the pin on those scales. I did one on an old sak of mine (given away now) and it wasn't too difficult. :salute:
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I have decided to fill the two recessed openings associated with the Bail/Nickle-silver pin mechanism. This to hopefully provide a stronger surface and minimise the potential for “cracking” in the future. I will use a product that I currently have in stock; but, first I will test the epoxy, on the damaged scales, for adhesion, strength and for its ability to be drilled once cured.
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:popcorn:
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For now, I need to wait 24 hours, sand level the cured epoxy (the last pic above) and attempt to drill a 2.5mm hole into the epoxied cavity...
Ouff, now I am tired... :D
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Marc, if you're careful you can cut a slot for the pin on those scales. I did one on an old sak of mine (given away now) and it wasn't too difficult. :salute:
Mags, sorry I missed your post while taking photographs... as you can now see, I will attempt to fill the two associated recesses in order to provide a solid base to drill into. And YES I will be very careful. I am now building a “jig” to mount the scale onto the fixed chuck on my watchmaker’s lathe and will slowly drill through the scale.
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Marc, if you're careful you can cut a slot for the pin on those scales. I did one on an old sak of mine (given away now) and it wasn't too difficult. :salute:
Mags, sorry I missed your post while taking photographs... as you can now see, I will attempt to fill the two associated recesses in order to provide a solid base to drill into. And YES I will be very careful. I am now building a “jig” to mount the scale onto the fixed chuck on my watchmaker’s lathe and will slowly drill through the scale.
No worries Marc. I actually meant you can cut a slot for the straight pin to fit into by the corkscrew recess.
Can't wait to see this project come to fruition though. :salute:
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I shall now go for a nice hot meal (that’s thinking of you Mechy) then practice my, long ago acquired, peening skills on a couple of donor Nickle-silver pins. For this project to be successful the peening has to be ecstatically perfect; since the peened heads will show much like a 93mm Alox. So, a small hammer, solid base, steady hands, clear vision and some buffing at the end. :ahhh :ahhh :ahhh
Then :drink: :drink: :drink:
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Peening takes patience.
So I let other people do it. :D
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I had a hot meal too.
For the first time in 2 weeks.
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Nice, Mechy.
Mashed potatoes? With cheese and garlic? :cheers:
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I am very proud of you Mechy. ::)
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Nix,
Patience is one thing I have.
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Mashed potatos oven baked, mixed with minced meat. And some apple sauce.
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Mashed potatos oven baked, mixed with minced meat. And some apple sauce.
I just threw up in my mouth a little...
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Mashed potatos oven baked, mixed with minced meat. And some apple sauce.
I just threw up in my mouth a little...
What?
The minced meat and mashed potato is added in a glass bowl in layers and covered with bread crums.
It's then grilled in the oven to harden the crust.
Delicious!
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Mashed potatos oven baked, mixed with minced meat. And some apple sauce.
I just threw up in my mouth a little...
What?
The minced meat and mashed potato is added in a glass bowl in layers and covered with bread crums.
It's then grilled in the oven to harden the crust.
Delicious!
If you say so!
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Mashed potatos oven baked, mixed with minced meat. And some apple sauce.
I just threw up in my mouth a little...
What?
The minced meat and mashed potato is added in a glass bowl in layers and covered with bread crums.
It's then grilled in the oven to harden the crust.
Delicious!
If you say so!
(https://koken.vtm.be/sites/koken.vtm.be/files/styles/vmmaplayer_big/public/recipe/image/istock_000015485614small.jpg?itok=I1Gif72s)
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Mechy,
That does look good...you meant ground beef or pork...it was the minced meat part that got to me.
That looks like, almost like a shepherd’s pie.
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Alright,
I’ve completed my epoxy experiment. Overall it performed as expected. The epoxy cured in 24 hours as instructed, even at the “bottom” of the recess. The sanding was straight forward but time consuming since I applied far too much. Lesson one. Drilling the epoxy through to the other side was as expected using a 0.0935” (3/32) or 2.4 mm.
Note: I drilled free hand for the experiment; since, I was not concerned with accuracy of location. I was mostly testing the epoxy’s ability to be drilled and retain structural integrity.
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:popcorn:
And minced meat is what Google Translate told me...
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I am also satisfied with the results obtained on the “outside” of the scale material. There is no cracking of the edges or otherwise anymore flaking then the original factory hole. Again this was done free hand without any holding devices or sacrificial back plate. When proceeding to the next phase, namely the application of epoxy to the replacement scales, the scale material will be secure to a bench lathe “fixed chuck” sandwiched between two pieces of sacrificial material (hard wood flat shims). This to ensure that the hole location is correct and to protect the exposed surfaces.
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The additional holes, were done with my specially self-loaded 22-250 Varmit rifle. I shall stick to end mills.
:rofl: :rofl:
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Next step is to apply the epoxy to the replacement scales.
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Any feedback or heads up at this point would be valuable!
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:popcorn:
So far, you've been more careful than I might have been.........
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Good mornin!
The epoxy is setting well, a little tacky still. Sanding and drilling will likely take place early in the week.
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Pretty much ready to peen the scales in place, as soon as the epoxy is fully cured.
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The scales turned out as expected, the epoxy cured properly. The scales were drilled free hand using liners, I had kicking around, as templates. That proves consistency in manufacturing and production; since the scales, the extra liners and the actual SAK are spread over several decades... :salute: Victorinox.
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Turned out great!
Does it still need to be peened?
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Turned out great!
Does it still need to be peened?
Nah, its a new concept I am trying...allows you to hang smurf off your smurfing knife, it will also get snagged into
Your smurfing pockets...
I'll perform some field trials then send it to you when it has driven me completely mad...
Sarcasm aside for a minute... yes I need to cut and peen the pins lol
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Turned out great!
Does it still need to be peened?
Nah, its a new concept I am trying...allows you to hang smurf off your smurfing knife, it will also get snagged into
Your smurfing pockets...
I'll perform some field trials then send it to you when it has driven me completely mad...
Sarcasm aside for a minute... yes I need to cut and peen the pins lol
I liked the sarcasm story better...
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That's looking great, Marc! :cheers:
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That's looking great, Marc! :cheers:
Thank you Sir!
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Now for the patience bit....... :tu:
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That’s why I not doing today...that’s an early morning project. :D
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Well then, i decided to peen this evening...heck it’s just a hobby right? :)
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That's turned out very nicely! :like:
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It does look good. :tu: How tight were you able to get the pivots? Is there any blade play, and is the bail free to move?
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Good questions from h
But it sure looks sweet!
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It does look good. :tu: How tight were you able to get the pivots? Is there any blade play, and is the bail free to move?
Overall I am pleased with the outcome:
All of the components, liners, springs, tools and the blade layer spacer are nice and snug.
There is zero play in the tools, on either end, but more specifically on the bail end, all of the implements have a nice snap opening and closing.
The bail is free to move with assistance, it will not sag, but it will travel to both extremes, having said that... it rubs on the tooth pick a little, I will need to figure out how to address this issue.
Thank you all for the comments
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That's turned out very nicely! :like:
I am pleased! Thank you
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Good questions from h
But it sure looks sweet!
Thanks Mechy!
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*removes toothpick*
Problem solved 8)
What an awesome SAK....
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It does look good. :tu: How tight were you able to get the pivots? Is there any blade play, and is the bail free to move?
Overall I am pleased with the outcome:
All of the components, liners, springs, tools and the blade layer spacer are nice and snug.
There is zero play in the tools, on either end, but more specifically on the bail end, all of the implements have a nice snap opening and closing.
The bail is free to move with assistance, it will not sag, but it will travel to both extremes, having said that... it rubs on the tooth pick a little, I will need to figure out how to address this issue.
Thank you all for the comments
I think you could file some material off the toothpick without making it inextricable...
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It does look good. :tu: How tight were you able to get the pivots? Is there any blade play, and is the bail free to move?
Overall I am pleased with the outcome:
All of the components, liners, springs, tools and the blade layer spacer are nice and snug.
There is zero play in the tools, on either end, but more specifically on the bail end, all of the implements have a nice snap opening and closing.
The bail is free to move with assistance, it will not sag, but it will travel to both extremes, having said that... it rubs on the tooth pick a little, I will need to figure out how to address this issue.
Thank you all for the comments
I think you could file some material off the toothpick without making it inextricable...
Note taken... good point.
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Great work, Marc!
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Great work, Marc!
Thank you very much, it makes the three (six) bushing SAKs a lot less terrifying now... hehe
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Just caught up, that's some nice work. :cheers: :like:
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Thanks Pablo
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I have regressed any therapeutic treatments, I have been receiving, by two years, but I really enjoyed the time doing it. :)
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Overall I am pleased with the outcome:
All of the components, liners, springs, tools and the blade layer spacer are nice and snug.
There is zero play in the tools, on either end, but more specifically on the bail end, all of the implements have a nice snap opening and closing.
The bail is free to move with assistance, it will not sag, but it will travel to both extremes, having said that... it rubs on the tooth pick a little, I will need to figure out how to address this issue.
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Got a pic with all Champs lined up?
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Got a pic with all Champs lined up?
Just a quick one with my phone...
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Got a pic with all Champs lined up?
Just a quick one with my phone...
I LOVE those holders!
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Niiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiice.... :gimme:
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Thank you! Easy to make!
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To the workbench!
When I've got the materials :facepalm: