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Title: Polishing SAK Cellidor Scales.
Post by: heardrwt on June 03, 2012, 10:58:56 PM
So i just finished polishing a couple of sets of Cellidor Victorinox scales. One red, One black.

I wanted to leave a record in-case anyone else new to this wanted to polish up a few knives.

I did it without removing the scales, using some clear tape to prevent polish getting into areas it shouldn't.

For anyone looking for advice on polish, i used "Novus Plastic Polish" available from The Container Store for $9.99 for a multi pack. ( 2oz No.1, 2oz No.2, 2oz No.3 and some paper cloths)

No. 3 is for medium depth scratches and leaves a slight matt finish.
Then lots of gentle rubbing with No. 2 returns each scale to a perfect glossy shine.

I would recommend using disposable kitchen paper with the No. 3, grit paste and a super soft old cotton t-shirt with the No. 2 paste.

No. 1 is just a cleaning solution, anti-static etc. Use it to clean the scales etc. before polishing and to keep them clean and dust free. It does not appear to have any polishing actions.

I managed to restore both sets to a factory grade finish.

Hope this is useful to someone.

http://www.novuspolish.com/ (http://www.novuspolish.com/)
http://www.containerstore.com/shop?productId=10025445&N=&Ntt=Nexus+plastic+polish (http://www.containerstore.com/shop?productId=10025445&N=&Ntt=Nexus+plastic+polish)
Title: Re: Polishing SAK Cellidor Scales.
Post by: nuphoria on June 04, 2012, 02:10:30 AM
Good info :tu:

I find that Brasso works pretty well too :)
Title: Re: Polishing SAK Cellidor Scales.
Post by: borgwarrior on June 04, 2012, 07:29:52 AM
Do you have and before/after pics?
Title: Re: Polishing SAK Cellidor Scales.
Post by: Currahee on June 04, 2012, 07:41:25 AM
+1 for Brasso :tu:
Title: Re: Polishing SAK Cellidor Scales.
Post by: sergemaster on June 04, 2012, 09:23:08 AM
Amici,
Dittos on Brasso, and thanks for the link and the heads up on the plastic polish!

Cheers,
Serge
Title: Re: Polishing SAK Cellidor Scales.
Post by: Suveges on June 04, 2012, 06:34:30 PM
These are great too:  http://www.leevalley.com/en/wood/page.aspx?p=62127&cat=1,250,43243,43245 (http://www.leevalley.com/en/wood/page.aspx?p=62127&cat=1,250,43243,43245)
Title: Re: Polishing SAK Cellidor Scales.
Post by: heardrwt on June 05, 2012, 09:29:39 AM
Here is one before and after set. Afraid its the only one that i had the fore-thought to take a before photo of.

It came out really well, still need to get some of the white paste to rub into the lettering.
Does anyone know what is normally used? These are embossed letters.
Title: Re: Polishing SAK Cellidor Scales.
Post by: borgwarrior on June 05, 2012, 10:40:42 AM
The polished scales look beautiful! :drool:
Title: Re: Polishing SAK Cellidor Scales.
Post by: magentus on June 05, 2012, 04:37:10 PM
Nice job!

For the skinflints among us, toothpaste does a good job and makes your SAK minty fresh.
Title: Re: Polishing SAK Cellidor Scales.
Post by: 13rus on January 10, 2014, 07:28:47 PM
Hate to resurrect an old thread but thought to add a useful tip, or at least what worked for me. Did not do much research before polishing my two celidor "basketcase worn" saks the other day so used what was handy -

Applied Meguiar's "All Metal Polysh" to an old leather belt/strop and polished/rubbed the knife on it without removing the scales. This took out most if not all of the deep scratches and now those old and very worn celidors shine like new. Mirror finishing could be done with a microfiber towel with or without the polishing compound.

I suppose a felt wheel on a Dremel and a little polishing compound would work wonders even faster.
Title: Re: Polishing SAK Cellidor Scales.
Post by: Fattsgalore on January 11, 2014, 12:57:07 AM
Do you have and before/after pics?
Pretty much what I was thinking...
Title: Re: Polishing SAK Cellidor Scales.
Post by: neillcurrie on January 11, 2014, 09:49:25 PM
I renovate a lot of really trashed knives frequently. Many have pretty deep gouges as well as pocket wear (or worse).
To fill really deep gouges I use two part Epoxy, let it set overnight, then 400/600/800/1500 wet and dry, all with lots of water. Finally buff the scales with Simichrome on a soft cloth. They get to a (usually) even better than factory finish, meaning they have a deep, burnished, highly polished look to them.
No real need to remove the scales, though it can be a little easier if they are removed.
Title: Re: Polishing SAK Cellidor Scales.
Post by: MWDP on January 13, 2014, 01:02:29 AM
For those not afraid to buy some ladies' items, a nail buffing block will take out a lot of surface scratches from cellidor scales  :D
Title: Re: Polishing SAK Cellidor Scales.
Post by: powernoodle on January 13, 2014, 01:20:24 AM
I use Mother's Mag wheel polish on just about everything from SAK scales to the chrome bumper of a 1969 Chevy truck.  I have bought many user knives on eBay and brought them back to life with the stuff.
Title: Re: Polishing SAK Cellidor Scales.
Post by: PTRSAK on January 13, 2014, 09:06:58 AM
The BEST... end of story.

http://www.sisweb.com/micromesh/acrylic_plastic_hand_kits.htm
Title: Re: Polishing SAK Cellidor Scales.
Post by: 13rus on January 13, 2014, 09:42:02 AM
Oh that plastic restoration stuff tickles my fancy! Have some headlight restoration stuff at shop, suppose it is similar to this. Will get, thank you!
Title: Re: Polishing SAK Cellidor Scales.
Post by: Longtermsakfan on January 27, 2014, 06:49:32 PM
In my early days as a collector, tried various products, Solvolautosol etc.
Yes , even Brasso works. Hours of fun !!
However, unless sentimentally attached to the old scales, and their associated 'battle scars', it is far easier to scrap the damaged ones, and replace with new scales !!
Title: Re: Polishing SAK Cellidor Scales.
Post by: sergemaster on February 03, 2017, 07:21:50 PM
Amici,
I had to bump this thread from the ether since on a whim, I recently picked up a Novus Plastic Polish kit for a great price and I wanted to see what it could do. Sure we all know the Victorinox secret regarding scales by now that they're replaceable so who cares if they get dinged up, just replace them!!

But for those one of a kind cases where you don't want to, this product really does the trick. I recently acquired another NOS Ranger with flouted corkscrew as well as those nice solid Cellidor scales. Well they were a little dinged up. So instead of popping off and replacing with a pair of nice, but  hollowed out Cellidor, I decided to give this product a try.

Well it worked remarkably well! So if you're in the market to refurbish a set of old scales, the Novus Plastic Polish kit will definitely do the job..

Cheers,
Serge
Title: Re: Polishing SAK Cellidor Scales.
Post by: JamesJ on February 03, 2017, 07:32:49 PM
One issue I've been having woth the polishing compound I'm using is that it splatters everywhere when I use the dremel tool with polishing ball.

Is the Novus stuff more of a paste than a liquid? I'd like to try something thicker that makes less of a mess.

The stuff I use works well, but I have to do it inside a cardboard box to avoid splatter all over the workbench.
Title: Re: Polishing SAK Cellidor Scales.
Post by: sergemaster on February 03, 2017, 09:04:02 PM
Amici,
The Novus polish is a cream or a paste if you will that comes in 2 different consistencies. Number 3 is coarse for those scales that are really dinged up, and number 2 is of the fine type meant as a finisher, or for scales that need a bit of tweaking as you were..

I simply apply a small amount with a cotton ball, and use circular motions. Follow up using the same method with number 2, and then buffing to a nice sheen.  It really is quite remarkable, how nice they turn out..

Cheers,
Serge
Title: Re: Polishing SAK Cellidor Scales.
Post by: Nix on December 12, 2018, 11:50:40 PM
A bit of a necro thread, but one worth reviving, I think.

Like the OP, I've used Novus plastic cleaner/scratch remover to clean up a few celidor scales in the past. However I'd never tried to polish translucent scales. Today I pulled out a translucent blue Tinker and attempted to clean up some fairly rough scales.....


Before, shield side:

(https://i.imgur.com/EfQEQ2h.jpg)


This side has some scratches and one spot, almost right on the shield, where I grabbed the SAK while I had some acetone on my fingers. Instant melt!

Before, driver side:

(https://i.imgur.com/uiAiuMF.jpg)


Again, some scratches and an acetone melt spot. Ooooops.


The spa regimen:

(https://i.imgur.com/nrvjL5w.jpg)


I went in order of 3-2-1.  Seemed only smart.


After, shield side:

(https://i.imgur.com/HFKonHN.jpg)


Much better! This was accomplished in less than 5 minutes. The acetone thumb print is still fairly prominent, but overall a nice improvement. I think if I want to remove that thumb [rint some automotive sandpaper might be called for.

After, driver side:

(https://i.imgur.com/NqonLHP.jpg)


Again, much better! I suspect that with a bit more time and effort, this could be made even sharper, but I was satisfied with the results.


Overall, I was really please to see the scale 1) NOT turn some cloudy, opaque color, and 2) some significant scratches get cleaned up easily. I'm giving these Novus products two big thumbs up.  :2tu:

For those of you who might have a hard time finding Novus. I got this product and a motorcycle dealer's shop. It was recommended for taking scratches out of windscreens and even face shields. So if Novus isn't available, you might try looking for a plastic polish at a place that sells helmets or plastic windscreens.

Now....sandpaper that acetone melt spot out....or leave it be...... :think:
Title: Re: Polishing SAK Cellidor Scales.
Post by: MacGyver on December 13, 2018, 01:12:04 AM
A bit of a necro thread, but one worth reviving, I think.

Like the OP, I've used Novus plastic cleaner/scratch remover to clean up a few celidor scales in the past. However I'd never tried to polish translucent scales. Today I pulled out a translucent blue Tinker and attempted to clean up some fairly rough scales.....


Before, shield side:

(https://i.imgur.com/EfQEQ2h.jpg)


This side has some scratches and one spot, almost right on the shield, where I grabbed the SAK while I had some acetone on my fingers. Instant melt!

Before, driver side:

(https://i.imgur.com/uiAiuMF.jpg)


Again, some scratches and an acetone melt spot. Ooooops.


The spa regimen:

(https://i.imgur.com/nrvjL5w.jpg)


I went in order of 3-2-1.  Seemed only smart.


After, shield side:

(https://i.imgur.com/HFKonHN.jpg)


Much better! This was accomplished in less than 5 minutes. The acetone thumb print is still fairly prominent, but overall a nice improvement. I think if I want to remove that thumb [rint some automotive sandpaper might be called for.

After, driver side:

(https://i.imgur.com/NqonLHP.jpg)


Again, much better! I suspect that with a bit more time and effort, this could be made even sharper, but I was satisfied with the results.


Overall, I was really please to see the scale 1) NOT turn some cloudy, opaque color, and 2) some significant scratches get cleaned up easily. I'm giving these Novus products two big thumbs up.  :2tu:

For those of you who might have a hard time finding Novus. I got this product and a motorcycle dealer's shop. It was recommended for taking scratches out of windscreens and even face shields. So if Novus isn't available, you might try looking for a plastic polish at a place that sells helmets or plastic windscreens.

Now....sandpaper that acetone melt spot out....or leave it be...... :think:

That's a great job  :tu: :like:

I use 6 way nail buffer pads for that myself..., they do a great job and are dirt cheap. Like "budget" micromesh pads, up to very fine grits for great polish and shine  :tu:

(https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/m6AAAOSwaA5Wjkyn/s-l1600.jpg)
(https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/pfEAAOSwFnxbqHwA/s-l1600.jpg)
Title: Re: Polishing SAK Cellidor Scales.
Post by: Nix on December 13, 2018, 01:23:35 AM
I'll keep my eyes open for those!   :like:
Title: Re: Polishing SAK Cellidor Scales.
Post by: Mechanickal on December 13, 2018, 04:35:11 PM
Since yesterday I use a headlight restoration kit (some French cars are known for their headlights turning yellow over time) that my parents wanted to throw out.

It works great!!

2 different rubbing pads and ultra fine sanding paper, along with 2 different diamond pastes.

A shiny SAK within seconds!

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20181213/d0062a8423e51b6142b0120fc582abbf.jpg)
Title: Re: Polishing SAK Cellidor Scales.
Post by: Nix on December 13, 2018, 04:41:41 PM
Very nice!

Does the kit have a brand name?   :pok:

And, does it work on translucent scales....?   :think:
Title: Re: Polishing SAK Cellidor Scales.
Post by: Rich S on December 13, 2018, 05:55:41 PM
Nice, I use those nail pads for light sharpening and touching up the edges on my knives (start with 4 go to 7) . Works great and gives a good polished edge when finished. I get them at a dollar store (1$ a piece).
Rich
Title: Re: Polishing SAK Cellidor Scales.
Post by: Myron on December 14, 2018, 03:48:56 PM
Very nice!

Does the kit have a brand name?   :pok:

And, does it work on translucent scales....?   :think:

I use a headlight polishing kit on my SAKs as well.  It's called Quixx.  Kinda pricey but works very well. 
Title: Re: Polishing SAK Cellidor Scales.
Post by: Mechanickal on December 14, 2018, 05:22:00 PM
Brandname is Gunson on my kit.

Son of a gun I guess :shrug:
Title: Re: Polishing SAK Cellidor Scales.
Post by: Reinier on December 14, 2018, 07:10:25 PM
Brandname is Gunson on my kit.

Son of a gun I guess :shrug:

(https://media.giphy.com/media/5gw0VWGbgNm8w/200w.gif)
Title: Re: Polishing SAK Cellidor Scales.
Post by: mikulichj on May 25, 2019, 01:43:22 AM
Thank you for the info here.
Title: Re: Polishing SAK Cellidor Scales.
Post by: Knerml on July 04, 2019, 03:23:14 PM
Just purchased a used Hiker on eBay for $10.

The knife was in really good shape, expect for heavy scale wear.

Not wanting to invest in a special polish for for my SAKs, I used what I had on hand:
1. Ultra fine sand paper
2. Meguiar's Ultimate Compound
3. Meguiar's Ultimate Polish

Worked great.

I would think just about any automotive rubbing compound and polish will work.
Title: Re: Polishing SAK Cellidor Scales.
Post by: Aloha on July 04, 2019, 03:31:02 PM
Welcome.  Glad you were able to use stuff you already had to get the scales polished up.   
Title: Re: Polishing SAK Cellidor Scales.
Post by: Nix on July 04, 2019, 03:31:59 PM

I would think just about any automotive rubbing compound and polish will work.


I bet you are right!  :like:

And welcome to MTo.  :waving:
Title: Re: Polishing SAK Cellidor Scales.
Post by: VICMAN on July 04, 2019, 03:49:08 PM
Just purchased a used Hiker on eBay for $10.

The knife was in really good shape, expect for heavy scale wear.

Not wanting to invest in a special polish for for my SAKs, I used what I had on hand:
1. Ultra fine sand paper
2. Meguiar's Ultimate Compound
3. Meguiar's Ultimate Polish

Worked great.

I would think just about any automotive rubbing compound and polish will work.

 :iagree:

I use the fine sand paper and Turtle Wax Heavy Duty Rubbing Compound,and Turtle Wax Light to Medium Rubbing Compound....basically the same thing....it works fine. :D
Title: Re: Polishing SAK Cellidor Scales.
Post by: Aligator on July 04, 2019, 09:58:44 PM
The disks of removing make-up that ladies wear greatly improve the result of any polish