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Title: FB Inspired Discussion- Micra or Classic?
Post by: Grant Lamontagne on June 11, 2019, 12:30:06 PM
It seems that we have a pretty good debate going on in the MTO Group on Facebook, and I figured I would bring it over here as well.

Aaron Mallott has asked what everyone prefers between these two:

(https://forum.multitool.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=81840.0;attach=437120;image)

Pretty straight forward question- let's hear your thoughts!

Def
Title: Re: FB Inspired Discussion- Micra or Classic?
Post by: zoidberg on June 11, 2019, 12:36:31 PM
Rambler totally bets those two.
Title: Re: FB Inspired Discussion- Micra or Classic?
Post by: Don Pablo on June 11, 2019, 12:42:29 PM
Rambler totally bets those two.
:iagree:
Title: Re: FB Inspired Discussion- Micra or Classic?
Post by: temo on June 11, 2019, 01:07:37 PM
Yes need to have phillips. Rambler vs micra would be more tough. 2D phillips versus small 3d phillips.
Title: Re: FB Inspired Discussion- Micra or Classic?
Post by: hiraethus on June 11, 2019, 01:31:04 PM
:iagree:
:imws:
Title: Re: FB Inspired Discussion- Micra or Classic?
Post by: SteveC on June 11, 2019, 02:07:04 PM
Micra or Executive for me.
Title: Re: FB Inspired Discussion- Micra or Classic?
Post by: McStitchy on June 11, 2019, 02:20:47 PM
Between those two I did prefer the Micra for quite a while. The Philips and to me better blade as well as the classic LM style were a few reasons.

These days though I do carry an alox Mini Champ.
Title: Re: FB Inspired Discussion- Micra or Classic?
Post by: Gareth on June 11, 2019, 02:21:43 PM
While I like both the Micra and the Classic, it's the Rambler that I carry far more often.
Title: Re: FB Inspired Discussion- Micra or Classic?
Post by: AimlessWanderer on June 11, 2019, 02:39:13 PM
Another vote for Rambler/Manager here
Title: Re: FB Inspired Discussion- Micra or Classic?
Post by: SirVicaLot on June 11, 2019, 02:48:23 PM
 :iagree: But even between Micra and Classic i would go with the Classic, considering my poor experience with my Micra.
Title: Re: FB Inspired Discussion- Micra or Classic?
Post by: Antti Lammi on June 11, 2019, 03:32:03 PM
Between Micra and Classic i prefer more Micra than Classic. Micra just have more suitable tools for me than Classic. Tho i carry Micra and Rambler with me on keychain all the time but i use Micra more often than Rambler
Title: Re: FB Inspired Discussion- Micra or Classic?
Post by: Butch on June 11, 2019, 05:02:46 PM
MiniChamp here along with SwissChamp. They pretty much go where I go ..................'cept the shower :dunno: :hatsoff:
Title: Re: FB Inspired Discussion- Micra or Classic?
Post by: McStitchy on June 11, 2019, 05:40:16 PM
MiniChamp here along with SwissChamp. They pretty much go where I go ..................'cept the shower :dunno: :hatsoff:

I could think of a couple of situations where you need a screwdriver under the shower  :pok:

(https://media.giphy.com/media/vbblzUfCL0h7q/giphy.gif)
Title: Re: FB Inspired Discussion- Micra or Classic?
Post by: Hevy (CT-782) on June 11, 2019, 05:44:29 PM
Classic.
A lot of punch in a small package.


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Title: Re: FB Inspired Discussion- Micra or Classic?
Post by: theonew on June 11, 2019, 05:54:19 PM
And another vote for the Rambler/Manager here.
Title: Re: FB Inspired Discussion- Micra or Classic?
Post by: ThundahBeagle on June 11, 2019, 05:54:49 PM
I could think of a couple of situations where you need a screwdriver under the shower  :pok:

(https://media.giphy.com/media/vbblzUfCL0h7q/giphy.gif)

Hey, dont laugh. I just got stuck in a bathroom this past Sunday. I was in an old house. It had an old-style mortise lock and skeleton key. Thank God I had my Rebar on my belt!

Extra key with someone on the outside using it wouldnt work. I wanted to cause as little damage as possible, so I tried to disassemble the knob and escutcheon plate. Got me nowhere. Prying the bolt wouldnt move it. Removed one hinge pin off the door but couldn't get the other to budge and broke my Rebar flathead screwdriver in the process.


Finally I started sawing where the box keep met the doorjamb and eventually got free.

Then I went to the beach to cool off
Title: Re: FB Inspired Discussion- Micra or Classic?
Post by: ThundahBeagle on June 11, 2019, 05:58:29 PM
For me, I prefer the Micra on my keychain, but the PS4 is a close second. If they made the PS4 like the Micra, or they made a Micra as plyers instead of scissors, that would be it for sure. Just not a fan of the matte finishes of the PS4 as much as I like the bare bones polished stainless of the Micra.

For my Beagle, Scout, I have a BSA Classic that I clip to his harness or collar when we hike. And one of his collars is a Kurgo, which has a bottle opener built right in!
Title: Re: FB Inspired Discussion- Micra or Classic?
Post by: comis on June 11, 2019, 05:59:37 PM
Though I did edc a Micra for a few years long, long time ago, I think I'd still say Classic.  The size/weight vs tool efficiency is just great with Classic.
Title: Re: FB Inspired Discussion- Micra or Classic?
Post by: McStitchy on June 11, 2019, 06:06:32 PM
Hey, dont laugh. I just got stuck in a bathroom this past Sunday. I was in an old house. It had an old-style mortise lock and skeleton key. Thank God I had my Rebar on my belt!

Extra key with someone on the outside using it wouldnt work. I wanted to cause as little damage as possible, so I tried to disassemble the knob and escutcheon plate. Got me nowhere. Prying the bolt wouldnt move it. Removed one hinge pin off the door but couldn't get the other to budge and broke my Rebar flathead screwdriver in the process.


Finally I started sawing where the box keep met the doorjamb and eventually got free.

Then I went to the beach to cool off

 :rofl: ... sorry  :dwts:

Great job using your Rebar to break free Thunda... even if the flathead broke  :hatsoff:
Title: Re: FB Inspired Discussion- Micra or Classic?
Post by: kirk13 on June 11, 2019, 06:48:27 PM
Another vote for Manager/Rambler. I've had one on my keyring for years...ironically my most carried SAK/multi :ahhh
Title: Re: FB Inspired Discussion- Micra or Classic?
Post by: SirVicaLot on June 11, 2019, 07:51:46 PM
Hey, dont laugh. I just got stuck in a bathroom this past Sunday. I was in an old house. It had an old-style mortise lock and skeleton key. Thank God I had my Rebar on my belt!

Extra key with someone on the outside using it wouldnt work. I wanted to cause as little damage as possible, so I tried to disassemble the knob and escutcheon plate. Got me nowhere. Prying the bolt wouldnt move it. Removed one hinge pin off the door but couldn't get the other to budge and broke my Rebar flathead screwdriver in the process.


Finally I started sawing where the box keep met the doorjamb and eventually got free.

Then I went to the beach to cool off

And this is (just one reason) why we carry MTs! Good job getting out of there  :tu:

Sorry, back to topic  :pok:
Title: Re: FB Inspired Discussion- Micra or Classic?
Post by: Butch on June 11, 2019, 08:50:27 PM
I could think of a couple of situations where you need a screwdriver under the shower  :pok:

(https://media.giphy.com/media/vbblzUfCL0h7q/giphy.gif)


 :twak: :twak: :twak: :dwts: :dwts:


Hey, dont laugh. I just got stuck in a bathroom this past Sunday. I was in an old house. It had an old-style mortise lock and skeleton key. Thank God I had my Rebar on my belt!

Extra key with someone on the outside using it wouldnt work. I wanted to cause as little damage as possible, so I tried to disassemble the knob and escutcheon plate. Got me nowhere. Prying the bolt wouldnt move it. Removed one hinge pin off the door but couldn't get the other to budge and broke my Rebar flathead screwdriver in the process.


Finally I started sawing where the box keep met the doorjamb and eventually got free.

Then I went to the beach to cool off



 :ahhh :ahhh  :ahhh

Ok now I gotta carry them to the shower ..........( sigh ) :dunno:
Title: Re: FB Inspired Discussion- Micra or Classic?
Post by: Aloha on June 11, 2019, 09:13:42 PM
Manager is my choice with my Squirt P4 a very close second.   
Title: Re: FB Inspired Discussion- Micra or Classic?
Post by: Butch on June 12, 2019, 04:28:25 AM

 :twak: :twak: :twak: :dwts: :dwts:



 :ahhh :ahhh  :ahhh

Ok now I gotta carry them to the shower ..........( sigh ) :dunno:


I know I'm gonna regret this ...................but I'm having a devil of a time trying to figger a way to carry the SwissChamp while nekkid .............. :dwts: :sa: :dunno:


 :pok:


 :rofl: :rofl:



 :rofl: :rofl:
Title: Re: FB Inspired Discussion- Micra or Classic?
Post by: SirVicaLot on June 12, 2019, 04:30:50 AM
Thanks Butch. Now i have a lot of pictures in my head and none of them are...shall we say...comfy...  :facepalm:

 :D
Title: Re: FB Inspired Discussion- Micra or Classic?
Post by: gerleatherberman on June 12, 2019, 08:01:04 AM

I know I'm gonna regret this ...................but I'm having a devil of a time trying to figger a way to carry the SwissChamp while nekkid .............. :dwts: :sa: :dunno:


 :pok:


 :rofl: :rofl:



 :rofl: :rofl:
:rofl:

So, with laughs out of the way, Imma gonna ruin this one.

Neck lanyard. :pok:

Title: Re: FB Inspired Discussion- Micra or Classic?
Post by: Gareth on June 12, 2019, 09:27:30 AM
Thanks Butch. Now i have a lot of pictures in my head and none of them are...shall we say...comfy...  :facepalm:

 :D

 :o

 :D :D
Title: Re: FB Inspired Discussion- Micra or Classic?
Post by: Blackbeard on June 12, 2019, 09:51:27 AM
:rofl:

So, with laughs out of the way, Imma gonna ruin this one.

Neck lanyard. :pok:

I'm picturing a very long neck lanyard so I don't have to picture anything else  :rofl: :facepalm:
Title: Re: FB Inspired Discussion- Micra or Classic?
Post by: magentus on June 12, 2019, 11:53:08 AM
Another one for the Rambler here - coupled with a Farmer it covers most dailty tasks for me.

Does anyone have some eye bleach they could splash on me please before the image of Butch in the shower burns itself onto my poor retinas  :ahhh
Title: Re: FB Inspired Discussion- Micra or Classic?
Post by: Grant Lamontagne on June 12, 2019, 12:54:09 PM
Interestingly enough, the voting for the original two tools is currently 6-2 in favor of the Micra.  I find that fascinating, because this is (as I stated on FB) one of the very few times I prefer Leatherman over Victorinox.  And, oddly enough, it isn't even something I have to think about, other than the slightly smaller package and lighter weight, I really can't think of any reason at all that I prefer the Classic, despite it's absolute (and justified) iconic status. 

The Micra has screwdrivers, and the Classic doesn't, so regardless of how useful they may be, they are far better than ones that don't exist.  And, the Classic SD, which does add a screwdriver tip really seems less like adding a function as it is ruining the tip of the nail file, which I use often.  I also prefer the texture of the nail file on the Micra.

The knife blades both work well, and I have seen some pretty major stuff done with the small blade on a Classic, but I prefer the slightly more robust blade on the Micra. 

The scissors are exceptional on the Classic as well, and they were the standard for Leatherman scissors.  Tim Leatherman once said that if he couldn't put scissors as good as the ones on a Victorinox knife on his tools then he didn't want to put any in it.  The Micra scissors are excellent, and a total win for LM, but they get this point (in my mind) for sheer size and ease of use.

And there's not much point in discussing tweezers- the Classic's beat the Micra's hands down.  The Micra's tweezers are useful, but not in the same league as Victorinox, nor does the Micra have a toothpick.  But, as I always have my Compact with me I have tweezers and toothpick already and don't need them on my keys as well.

So those are my reasons for picking the Micra.  I honestly can't think of too many other tools that I would pick LM over Victorinox though... they both build great tools, but Victorinox just goes that extra mile to make them that much better!

Def
Title: Re: FB Inspired Discussion- Micra or Classic?
Post by: ThundahBeagle on June 12, 2019, 04:34:10 PM
Well said, Def

However, I may have to disagree about the tweezers. The Micra tweezers are robust, if a little less easy to use because they are attached to the tool.

I've removed many a tick from the dogs with the Micra tweezers. I feel that the Vic tweezers require me to "choke up" on them and grasp them very close to the business end in order to be able to get a good grip on certain items.

And the Vic tweezers fall into one of my pet peeve categories: little tools and bits that can be removed and subsequently dropped and lost. But truth be told, they are not the same as losing a screwdriver bit in my book. So I still like them, I just think the Micra is tons more robust in every way, for not much more size, weight and money
Title: Re: FB Inspired Discussion- Micra or Classic?
Post by: powernoodle on June 12, 2019, 05:29:41 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/GQHc070.jpg)
I prefer the Manager.  But all of them could benefit with a real flat driver.
Title: Re: FB Inspired Discussion- Micra or Classic?
Post by: SirVicaLot on June 12, 2019, 05:47:20 PM
Interestingly enough, the voting for the original two tools is currently 6-2 in favor of the Micra.  I find that fascinating, because this is (as I stated on FB) one of the very few times I prefer Leatherman over Victorinox.  And, oddly enough, it isn't even something I have to think about, other than the slightly smaller package and lighter weight, I really can't think of any reason at all that I prefer the Classic, despite it's absolute (and justified) iconic status. 

The Micra has screwdrivers, and the Classic doesn't, so regardless of how useful they may be, they are far better than ones that don't exist.  And, the Classic SD, which does add a screwdriver tip really seems less like adding a function as it is ruining the tip of the nail file, which I use often.  I also prefer the texture of the nail file on the Micra.

The knife blades both work well, and I have seen some pretty major stuff done with the small blade on a Classic, but I prefer the slightly more robust blade on the Micra. 

The scissors are exceptional on the Classic as well, and they were the standard for Leatherman scissors.  Tim Leatherman once said that if he couldn't put scissors as good as the ones on a Victorinox knife on his tools then he didn't want to put any in it.  The Micra scissors are excellent, and a total win for LM, but they get this point (in my mind) for sheer size and ease of use.

And there's not much point in discussing tweezers- the Classic's beat the Micra's hands down.  The Micra's tweezers are useful, but not in the same league as Victorinox, nor does the Micra have a toothpick.  But, as I always have my Compact with me I have tweezers and toothpick already and don't need them on my keys as well.

So those are my reasons for picking the Micra.  I honestly can't think of too many other tools that I would pick LM over Victorinox though... they both build great tools, but Victorinox just goes that extra mile to make them that much better!

Def

Most people here seem to prefer Rambler/Manager over the Micra. Not many really mentioned the classic though  :dunno:
Title: Re: FB Inspired Discussion- Micra or Classic?
Post by: Grant Lamontagne on June 12, 2019, 06:05:55 PM
That's because this is MTO and when given a choice of A or B the membership tends to all vote for pineapple.   :facepalm:

Of course, if all you had were two choices in life, things would get awfully boring!

Def
Title: Re: FB Inspired Discussion- Micra or Classic?
Post by: McStitchy on June 12, 2019, 06:11:21 PM
What's not to like about pineapples?  :dunno:
Title: Re: FB Inspired Discussion- Micra or Classic?
Post by: Aloha on June 12, 2019, 06:40:43 PM
IF it were between the Micra and Classic and only those two were my choices I'd go Micra.  While the Classic is a, well Classic, its not a tool I carry or have carried.  For not much more weight or bulk you can get a lot more from Rambler/Manager.  Comparing the Micra to the Classic seems.................   :think:.
Title: Re: FB Inspired Discussion- Micra or Classic?
Post by: Don Pablo on June 12, 2019, 07:53:47 PM
IF it were between the Micra and Classic and only those two were my choices I'd go Micra.  While the Classic is a, well Classic, its not a tool I carry or have carried.  For not much more weight or bulk you can get a lot more from Rambler/Manager.  Comparing the Micra to the Classic seems.................   :think:.
Like comparing a Mandarin to a large Orange?
Title: Re: FB Inspired Discussion- Micra or Classic?
Post by: SirVicaLot on June 12, 2019, 09:47:58 PM
...or to pineapple. Now i am confused  :think:

   :D
Title: Re: FB Inspired Discussion- Micra or Classic?
Post by: Butch on June 12, 2019, 10:30:39 PM
...or to pineapple. Now i am confused  :think:

   :D

Me too ..........but I had a great idea how to carry the SwissChamp pics upcomming.............. :woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo:
Title: Re: FB Inspired Discussion- Micra or Classic?
Post by: McStitchy on June 12, 2019, 10:43:00 PM
Me too ..........but I had a great idea how to carry the SwissChamp pics upcomming.............. :woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo:

In a hollow pineapple?  :pok:

(https://media3.giphy.com/media/VT534DyEGky64/giphy.gif?cid=19f5b51a5d01636f594c516d7315938c&rid=giphy.gif)
Title: Re: FB Inspired Discussion- Micra or Classic?
Post by: SirVicaLot on June 13, 2019, 12:00:53 AM
Why would he take a hollow pineapple in the shower?  :o :think:
Title: Re: FB Inspired Discussion- Micra or Classic?
Post by: Aloha on June 13, 2019, 12:18:14 AM
 :o
Title: Re: FB Inspired Discussion- Micra or Classic?
Post by: Wessaen on June 13, 2019, 01:27:45 AM

The scissors are exceptional on the Classic as well, and they were the standard for Leatherman scissors.  Tim Leatherman once said that if he couldn't put scissors as good as the ones on a Victorinox knife on his tools then he didn't want to put any in it.  The Micra scissors are excellent, and a total win for LM, but they get this point (in my mind) for sheer size and ease of use.

Def

I think that depends entirely on what you are using the scissors for. A keychain tool the size of the Classic is, imho, best for tiny, intricate work such as trimming nails, removing hangnails, loose threads, etc. (And is pretty much the main reason I EDC one as I cannot have long, cracked, or snagging nails in my line of work.)

I have never been a fan of LM scissors except those on the OG Wave; the tolerances just are not tight enough to be useful for very detailed work or like on the new Wave/Charge flip back and expose the naked edge far too easily.

This is also why I pair my Rambler with a Squirt P4 and get the best of both worlds.

-Wes.
Title: Re: FB Inspired Discussion- Micra or Classic?
Post by: Huntsman on June 13, 2019, 02:05:16 AM
Great points on Classic vs Micra in post #29 boss

I do have a Micra - But I barely use it - You are making me think I should try it out a bit

Agree with everyone else's comments about the Rambler
- Although for some reason I rarely carry a Rambler either (one reason was I gave the one I used to carry to my sister!)

However I voted for the Classic -
1. As that is what is on my keychains (well actually it's a Signature and Signature Lite) - Bit I reckoned that counted as a Classic as same main toolset and
2. As I read above it had fewer votes than the Micra so wanted to even things up  - Tactical voting?   ???   :twak:
3. I do pop a Classic into my pocket - If my other EDC tool does not have tp, tw or scissors
Title: Re: FB Inspired Discussion- Micra or Classic?
Post by: theonew on June 13, 2019, 03:59:23 AM
Even though I voted Rambler/Manager, I much prefer a Pocket Tool Chest to either, therefore my vote goes to Mango.
Title: Re: FB Inspired Discussion- Micra or Classic?
Post by: Butch on June 13, 2019, 05:32:25 AM
Got the pics done but every time I try to upload I get a server down error message. The last time I tried to upload them I got a threatning massage that they were gonna report me to Al Gore. Guess I'll just have to describe the shower carry in words ................. as soon as I figger how to do that on a family forum .......... :dunno: :think:
Title: Re: FB Inspired Discussion- Micra or Classic?
Post by: McStitchy on June 13, 2019, 07:18:47 AM
I think that depends entirely on what you are using the scissors for. A keychain tool the size of the Classic is, imho, best for tiny, intricate work such as trimming nails, removing hangnails, loose threads, etc. (And is pretty much the main reason I EDC one as I cannot have long, cracked, or snagging nails in my line of work.)

I have never been a fan of LM scissors except those on the OG Wave; the tolerances just are not tight enough to be useful for very detailed work or like on the new Wave/Charge flip back and expose the naked edge far too easily.

This is also why I pair my Rambler with a Squirt P4 and get the best of both worlds.

-Wes.

Very good points on the scissors Wes.
Although I personally feel that the Classic's scissors are a tad small on the thumbs nails, they're definitively more comfortable for cutting... nose hair.

Now I wonder, are the 74mm scissors bigger than the Classic's?  :think:
Title: Re: FB Inspired Discussion- Micra or Classic?
Post by: McStitchy on June 13, 2019, 07:20:43 AM
Got the pics done but every time I try to upload I get a server down error message. The last time I tried to upload them I got a threatning massage that they were gonna report me to Al Gore. Guess I'll just have to describe the shower carry in words ................. as soon as I figger how to do that on a family forum .......... :dunno: :think:

 :popcorn:   :D
Title: Re: FB Inspired Discussion- Micra or Classic?
Post by: Don Pablo on June 13, 2019, 08:35:17 AM
Now I wonder, are the 74mm scissors bigger than the Classic's?  :think:
They are. :tu:
Title: Re: FB Inspired Discussion- Micra or Classic?
Post by: Gareth on June 13, 2019, 11:11:03 AM
I'm picturing a very long neck lanyard so I don't have to picture anything else  :rofl: :facepalm:
:rofl:
Title: Re: FB Inspired Discussion- Micra or Classic?
Post by: Gareth on June 13, 2019, 11:12:55 AM
Very good points on the scissors Wes.
Although I personally feel that the Classic's scissors are a tad small on the thumbs nails, they're definitively more comfortable for cutting... nose hair.

Now I wonder, are the 74mm scissors bigger than the Classic's?  :think:

Just a little.  :)  Here's an article I wrote a scary number of years ago  :-\ ;https://www.swissarmyknights.com/articles/2009/august-2009/458-ambassador
Title: Re: FB Inspired Discussion- Micra or Classic?
Post by: Fuzzbucket on June 13, 2019, 11:23:49 AM
Hey, dont laugh. I just got stuck in a bathroom this past Sunday. I was in an old house. It had an old-style mortise lock and skeleton key. Thank God I had my Rebar on my belt!

Extra key with someone on the outside using it wouldnt work. I wanted to cause as little damage as possible, so I tried to disassemble the knob and escutcheon plate. Got me nowhere. Prying the bolt wouldnt move it. Removed one hinge pin off the door but couldn't get the other to budge and broke my Rebar flathead screwdriver in the process.


Finally I started sawing where the box keep met the doorjamb and eventually got free.

Then I went to the beach to cool off

You should've just turned the key... a lot easier.
Title: Re: FB Inspired Discussion- Micra or Classic?
Post by: Hevy (CT-782) on June 13, 2019, 12:05:42 PM
Idea for a challenge:
Classic and Micra against the pineapple:
Who does best?

But I keep my vote on the Classic.

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Title: Re: FB Inspired Discussion- Micra or Classic?
Post by: Gerhard Gerber on June 13, 2019, 12:15:45 PM
My good old Microsoft-branded Micra  :salute:

I use it almost daily for many-many years.

That said, if I rank the tool usage as follow:

scissors - most used tool, 95%

small screwdriver, 3%

tweezer 1%

blade 0.5%

the rest 0.5%

 :facepalm: So a small but bulky scissor.....

But, it's lasted, feels as good as the day I got it.  :salute:

Title: Re: FB Inspired Discussion- Micra or Classic?
Post by: Gerhard Gerber on June 13, 2019, 12:17:19 PM
Why did they never use those spring loaded hooks that keep the Micra open on the larger models?  :think:
Title: Re: FB Inspired Discussion- Micra or Classic?
Post by: Radrler on June 14, 2019, 06:02:45 PM
I don’t believe there’s a “best” tool for everyone, at least until they put tweezers on a titanium PS4. For me, tweezers are the most important tool, hands down. I work with steel shavings and constantly have to remove them from my oh so sensitive skin... the knife blade is a distant second and I definitely want a backup pen, though I try to carry a full-sized one anyway.

So, Victorinox Signature it is.
Title: Re: FB Inspired Discussion- Micra or Classic?
Post by: Happy Gilmore on June 14, 2019, 10:18:14 PM
Classic or signature over the Rambler or Manager? Not a chance.. why would you give up the single best Philips driver on a multi-tool ever???!?!? Let me be clear, I have used it for both the screw on my glasses AND on screws as big as a #2...No other Philips can do this. The 2D one on the micra comes close, but no...nothing is this good.

(https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/616HK%2BuGAzL._SL1200_.jpg)

Manager..nuff said..

And no..the Mini champ is not better. If you look at it, it basically has redundancy but provides no other valuable function. The manager is the ONLY multi-tool I am never without. I carry a ton of other bigger MTs but the Manager is a constant that I would never compromise on. In fact...its in my wallet.. right next to my X7S from Mecarmy, and my 128GB flash drive:

(https://i.pinimg.com/564x/dc/5e/e3/dc5ee37473bcefdbf9a48c50fd59a722.jpg)

I'm usually not too pushy when it comes to MT preference, but the Manager is by far the top of the top when it comes to size vs. function. Nothing is more capable in a package this small, nothing.

Title: Re: FB Inspired Discussion- Micra or Classic?
Post by: Pacu on June 14, 2019, 10:56:03 PM
I carry a mini champ.  Ifin I didn't I'd carry a micra.
Title: Re: FB Inspired Discussion- Micra or Classic?
Post by: El Corkscrew on June 15, 2019, 04:49:38 PM
Lately it's been between the Manager and the Wenger Pocket Tech  :salute:
Title: Re: FB Inspired Discussion- Micra or Classic?
Post by: Don Pablo on June 15, 2019, 04:54:25 PM
Lately it's been between the Manager and the Wenger Pocket Tech  :salute:
El Corkscrew! How have you been?
Title: Re: FB Inspired Discussion- Micra or Classic?
Post by: getahl on June 16, 2019, 03:31:02 PM
I want to love the Micra. The tools are great, the blade is a laser beam, but the scissors suck. Cutting something rigid or semi  rigid works, but I've never been able to use them on a plastic bag, or hair, or something that has a tendency to fold or bend. It just mangles some things before I give up and get something else to cut it with. It's for this reason I choose the Classic, even if the scissors are nowhere near as robust.
Title: Re: FB Inspired Discussion- Micra or Classic?
Post by: Marcellus on June 26, 2019, 04:38:02 AM
I want to love the Micra. The tools are great, the blade is a laser beam, but the scissors suck. Cutting something rigid or semi  rigid works, but I've never been able to use them on a plastic bag, or hair, or something that has a tendency to fold or bend. It just mangles some things before I give up and get something else to cut it with. It's for this reason I choose the Classic, even if the scissors are nowhere near as robust.

I agree and this thread had me rethinking the micra  carry question.
I came to my original decision again.
The tool just doesn't pull it's own weight with those  substandard scissors. In my opinion  they are more like shears.

I carry the Rambler on my keys  along with one of those round doodads with four screw drivers that cost about a dollar.
 Plus a pocket knife in FRP as usual.

Title: Re: FB Inspired Discussion- Micra or Classic?
Post by: ToolJoe on June 28, 2019, 02:59:03 AM
Neither. I carry a Maglite LED Solitaire on my keys.. :whistle:
Title: Re: FB Inspired Discussion- Micra or Classic?
Post by: Fast Bill on August 09, 2019, 10:26:21 PM
The Micra is excellent for its screwdriver combo tool and so is the Classic for its scissors and T&T. I usually have both close by though strictly I agree the Rambler beats the Classic.
Title: Re: FB Inspired Discussion- Micra or Classic?
Post by: Striker on August 11, 2019, 06:24:36 AM
Another vote for Manager. But i'm going to try the micra now because of this thread and see how it goes.  :)
Title: Re: FB Inspired Discussion- Micra or Classic?
Post by: Sos24 on August 11, 2019, 07:09:03 AM
I’m another Rambler fan,  For me it has a great tool set for something that takes very little space on the keychain.

Almost seems like need a new poll that puts the Rambler against the Micra.
Title: Re: FB Inspired Discussion- Micra or Classic?
Post by: pipedreams on August 13, 2019, 02:16:34 PM
Between the Classic and Micra, I’ll go Classic. But, I don’t like a folding tool on my keys. The key ring is the domain of the OPMT.