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Title: Why is the keyring not standard on all alox?
Post by: Syph007 on December 04, 2011, 11:36:00 PM
I've been ordering a bunch of silver 93mm alox lately.  I got in a rancher, harvester and some solos and they don't have the key ring.  I looked online and noticed that only the pioneer and farmer do have them.  I much prefer to have it as lanyard carry is my preference.  Anyways, I was wondering though, is there a reason not all models have it?   It doesn't matter too much as I an add one when I customize, but I was just curious if there was a reason.

Title: Re: Why is the keyring not standard on all alox?
Post by: kirk13 on December 05, 2011, 12:49:24 AM
They do it to make us geek guys n gals upset ;)
Title: Why is the keyring not standard on all alox?
Post by: tattoosteve99 on December 05, 2011, 01:02:12 AM
Some do some don't. It's just the way they do things. On another note soldier models don't have them. Some might. Also some have the bail. It may be a different model # to keep up guessing. The solo doesn't have one cause there's no room (liner spacer)
Title: Re: Why is the keyring not standard on all alox?
Post by: Sazabi on December 05, 2011, 01:54:15 AM
Some do some don't. It's just the way they do things. On another note soldier models don't have them. Some might. Also some have the bail. It may be a different model # to keep up guessing. The solo doesn't have one cause there's no room (liner spacer)

You're right, Steve; some Soldiers do technically have lanyard rings, I think most of those either were stamped 95 or 07 (or maybe 06), and were mostly sold through Lee Valley.  I think there is the rare screwup, too.  Kinda like the factory error blank Wenger SIs - not the modern, no number SIs. :tu:
Title: Re: Why is the keyring not standard on all alox?
Post by: stressmaster5000 on December 05, 2011, 02:08:50 AM
Alox chips so easily when keys are attached to a ring right next to the knife. I also noticed that Wenger Snife models were sold new in the box without a key ring although there is an attachment point for it. The keys really beat them up.
Title: Re: Why is the keyring not standard on all alox?
Post by: user24 on December 05, 2011, 09:24:14 AM
some Soldiers do technically have lanyard rings, I think most of those either were stamped 95 or 07 (or maybe 06)
I have an old red alox with '99 stamped blade and keyring. I was under the impression that this is a actually a pioneer, but just that they used a soldier blade in it.

From the wonderful Sakwiki:
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three subtle cosmetic differences [between the Pioneer and Soldier]; first, the logo on the scales is different; second, it does not have the year of production stamped on the tang of the main blade; third, on the opposite scale from that with the logo (bottom), the Pioneer has a small flat area meant for engraving.

Mine has the keyring, vintage red alox scales, 99 stamped blade, and no engraving panel.

(http://www.knifewallpapers.com/smilies/confused2.gif)
Title: Re: Why is the keyring not standard on all alox?
Post by: Sazabi on December 05, 2011, 04:04:00 PM
some Soldiers do technically have lanyard rings, I think most of those either were stamped 95 or 07 (or maybe 06)
I have an old red alox with '99 stamped blade and keyring. I was under the impression that this is a actually a pioneer, but just that they used a soldier blade in it.

From the wonderful Sakwiki:
Quote
three subtle cosmetic differences [between the Pioneer and Soldier]; first, the logo on the scales is different; second, it does not have the year of production stamped on the tang of the main blade; third, on the opposite scale from that with the logo (bottom), the Pioneer has a small flat area meant for engraving.

Mine has the keyring, vintage red alox scales, 99 stamped blade, and no engraving panel.

(http://www.knifewallpapers.com/smilies/confused2.gif)

The ones I'm talking about had Soldier scales, a Soldier blade, and a lanyard ring. ;)  They were actual Soldiers, just with the keyring, not other alox models with Soldiers blades used on them. :)
Title: Re: Why is the keyring not standard on all alox?
Post by: Rahmed on December 05, 2011, 08:07:55 PM
I see ;)

(http://img684.imageshack.us/img684/8216/p1040378jpgbig.jpg)

(http://img502.imageshack.us/img502/6968/p1040379jpgbig.jpg)
Title: Re: Why is the keyring not standard on all alox?
Post by: jan. on December 05, 2011, 08:46:55 PM
Four the same SAK's, Pioneer silver, Pioneer black, Soldier, Settler.
(http://i754.photobucket.com/albums/xx190/janblokvoort/Afbeelding017-2.jpg)
Title: Re: Why is the keyring not standard on all alox?
Post by: victor7000 on December 06, 2011, 07:37:52 PM
I've been ordering a bunch of silver 93mm alox lately.  I got in a rancher, harvester and some solos and they don't have the key ring.  I looked online and noticed that only the pioneer and farmer do have them.  I much prefer to have it as lanyard carry is my preference.  Anyways, I was wondering though, is there a reason not all models have it?   It doesn't matter too much as I an add one when I customize, but I was just curious if there was a reason.

The reason is, some people like knives without keyring other like the keyring ...   ;)  and years ago Victorinox produced most models with and without ring and you could choose. But since some years Victorinox is reducing the Alox model palette continuously. Today on the regular Alox line only Pioneer and Farmer have the ring. Specialruns are an exeption.

@jan. Very nice lineup  :cheers: