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Tool Talk => Swiss Army Knights Forum => Topic started by: Lynn LeFey on January 13, 2018, 07:41:08 AM

Title: 84mm 'Pioneer'?
Post by: Lynn LeFey on January 13, 2018, 07:41:08 AM
I'm looking at a picture of a SAK.

It's next to a 91mm model, so I know it's 84mm. It's got red Alox scales with the old style cross on it, and old style grind on the can opener (which is a Vic style opener, hence knowing it's an 84).

It's 2 layers. Large blade, caplifter/flathead and can opener/small flathead... and an awl. The kind in the same layer as the main blade. Like on the 93mm frame.

No keyring.

What IS it? I'm stumped. It's like a mini Pioneer. Is it just an unusual Cadet variant? I also see in the SAKwiki that some Cadet II models came with no keyring but don't see any mention of awl replacing nail file/second blade.
Title: Re: 84mm 'Pioneer'?
Post by: hiraethus on January 13, 2018, 07:48:16 AM
Why aren't we looking at a picture too? :pok: :worthless:

Sounds like a mod to me - AFAIK there has never been a Cadet with an awl.
Title: Re: 84mm 'Pioneer'?
Post by: Lynn LeFey on January 13, 2018, 07:55:31 AM
Mmm...

Looking at more pics, and it might have been a weird distortion of the 91mm having multiple layers LOOKING longer than a 93mm. But it's weird.

It's an ebay listing.
Title: Re: 84mm 'Pioneer'?
Post by: m47mu74nt on January 13, 2018, 08:09:28 AM

It's an ebay listing.
Link it ? :-)
Title: Re: 84mm 'Pioneer'?
Post by: Lynn LeFey on January 13, 2018, 08:15:00 AM

It's an ebay listing.
Link it ? :-)

No. NOOOoooo! You shall not steal my precious treasure! NNNnnnnnoooooo!

Ok...

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Lot-of-3-Swiss-Army-Knife-Knives/253351202531?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649

I think it's just an optical illusion in the first picture.
Title: Re: 84mm 'Pioneer'?
Post by: hiraethus on January 13, 2018, 08:15:45 AM
That's 93mm. :tu:

You can tell by the texture on the scales (coarser than the 84mm) and the placement of the middle rivet (central, rather than closer to the blade pivot).
Title: Re: 84mm 'Pioneer'?
Post by: Lynn LeFey on January 13, 2018, 08:16:55 AM
Yeah, optical illusion in the first pic.
Title: Re: 84mm 'Pioneer'?
Post by: Sawl Goodman on January 13, 2018, 08:30:02 AM
I reckon a lot of people would like an 84mm Pioneer, though. Be a great alternative or companion to the Cadet. :)
Title: Re: 84mm 'Pioneer'?
Post by: m47mu74nt on January 13, 2018, 09:57:52 AM
Yeah, optical illusion in the first pic.

Yep, first pic ils really weird with sak order:
The 91mm is thicker so its front scale is closer to us, AND the moneyclip is a lot smaller so the eye is waiting for a progressive decrease in size from the left to right
Hence that pretty neat illusion ;-)