Post by: kamakiri on January 01, 2019, 12:58:36 AM
Second, thanks to all the members who post such valuable information for all to use and learn from. Part of my posting today is about being able to help give back to this community by sharing some of what I've learned too. While I might be inclined to thank only those who provide answers, I also recognize that many of those answers wouldn't have been posted if not for the excellent and difficult questions asked.
I got my first Vic in the summer of '84 and I've been hooked ever since. That knife is a black Champion that my best friend gave me. It's certainly gotten me out of and occasionally into trouble over the years, is by far my favorite knife, and still in the EDC/in-service rotation. I'm just glad it's never fallen victim to TSA confiscation despite going everywhere with me.
Repaired one of it's scales back in 2016 with CA glue:
(https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8068/29425925031_8c3d444020_n.jpg)
I have a Hoffritz problem/addiction. This was the start:
(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4632/40524616182_b7a2eafb4e_n.jpg)
There are 2 versions of the stainless scale inlay 'v1' on the left:
(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4846/45633319965_93d3f37b8b_n.jpg)
Best guess is c. 1980 for the change
I like Craftsman variants and want to fill in most of running changes in my collection, but I still have big gaps to fill.
This is my earliest:
(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4804/45633319425_511973f07e_n.jpg)
also have one (Master) Craftsman c.1972 with the lack of can key:
(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4853/45633319535_a3b5f3220e_n.jpg)
I like Rangers (and campers, and picnickers, and outdoorsmen) and have some dating info for the Camping Inlay dating thread.
(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/942/43557928291_261c13b142_n.jpg)
(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7845/45633319705_458029c125_n.jpg)
Rangers are great dating tools since they have all the backside tools, have been in production for a long time, and do not have the cost of Champions/Champs
My first mod:
(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4836/45633319825_d26bb26ca0_n.jpg)
I like buying knives to repair:
Open heart surgery to replace a broken clip point
(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/899/41399262542_da4bc276dd_n.jpg)
(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/900/41399263622_00221a4b4e_n.jpg)
(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/882/27569875768_cec8b71197_n.jpg)
I like buying crap..and apparently taking them apart:
(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/902/41399273362_9c79250198_n.jpg)
(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1769/43557947021_957420c352_n.jpg)
(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/940/43511159972_d88c05ffa4_n.jpg)
(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1802/43511148812_7936a3613e_n.jpg)
Time consuming, but I like fabricating replacement parts:
(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/942/43577254202_7a6699483e_n.jpg)
(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1836/42140262760_66a0fcd5fd_n.jpg)
Dang, I better wrap this up...it's too long already! I'll add more pics in later posts. I also like:
Polished liners/spacers. Orange scales. Troubleshooters. 2.5mm pliers. Tinkers. Special inlays. Compacts, Explorers and Spartan Lites for mod fodder. Pruner blades.
Life is much better with 2.2mm brass rod in stock. Re-using pins and turning down 2.5mm or 3/32 stock sucks! :ahhh
I've never bought a new knife for myself. NOS and unused, yes, but never a new one from a retailer.
I only have one alox...a pruner. Two if I count a money clip.
I don't like being organized. My collection is like this post. All over the place! :o :oops:
Ack! That's just TMI. :facepalm:
Anyway...I'm looking forward to being part of the MTO/SAK Forum in 2019! :cheers:
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Finally, I'd like to apply for my SAK Banner. I'll repeat my oath in the SAK Banner thread, but I thought it appropriate to say the words first here. I also figured owning this knife wouldn't make me an automatic shoe-in...
(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7892/45633319105_14aaf4ee91_n.jpg)
I, kamakiri, being of relatively sound mind and aging body, hereby entreat the gracious MTO powers that be to consider me for membership in good standing in the Swiss Army Knights and promise to place no knife before my trusty Black '84 Champion till rust do us part.
(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7865/31605694137_67dc6557be.jpg)
;)
Post by: FolderBeholder on January 01, 2019, 01:06:51 AM
I like your style! :2tu:
Post by: twiliter on January 01, 2019, 01:07:17 AM
Post by: SteveC on January 01, 2019, 01:07:28 AM
Post by: McStitchy on January 01, 2019, 01:23:43 AM
That's a great into ... lovely work and collection :hatsoff:
Post by: RF52 on January 01, 2019, 01:27:00 AM
And welcome to this wonderful place :hatsoff:
Sent fra min FRD-L09 via Tapatalk
Post by: Poncho65 on January 01, 2019, 02:04:51 AM
Post by: CallsignBadger on January 01, 2019, 02:12:15 AM
And welcome to :MTO:
Post by: smiller43147 on January 01, 2019, 02:13:52 AM
Is that a double magnifier / in-line phillips mod?
Post by: kamakiri on January 01, 2019, 02:22:55 AM
I checked how long I was signed up...
Quote
Date Registered: February 21, 2018, 11:55:34 PM:facepalm:
Didn't think it was that long lurking!
Happy New Year :MTO:!
Yes, it is!
Welcome.
Is that a double magnifier / in-line phillips mod?
Post by: Barry Rowland on January 01, 2019, 02:57:30 AM
Welcome to :MTO:
I like your style! :2tu:
Post by: Rapidray on January 01, 2019, 03:01:58 AM
Post by: jaya_man on January 01, 2019, 03:02:51 AM
What an awesome introduction. That’s an impressive collection of SAKs you have there... I especially like the part where you recreated the bail... Awesome restoration...
:like: :cheers:
Post by: Nix on January 01, 2019, 03:56:03 AM
Post by: gustophersmob on January 01, 2019, 05:36:32 AM
Welcome to :MTO: Sir kamakiri :SAKnight:
What an awesome introduction. That’s an impressive collection of SAKs you have there... I especially like the part where you recreated the bail... Awesome restoration...
:like: :cheers:
Welcome to MTO!
Awesome 1st post, and I agree with Jaya man, I like that bail restoration. :tu: I'd be interested in more details on how you did it.
:cheers:
Post by: Butch on January 01, 2019, 06:38:14 AM
Welcome home.
:climber:
Post by: kamakiri on January 01, 2019, 07:33:30 AM
Welcome to :MTO: Sir kamakiri :SAKnight:
What an awesome introduction. That’s an impressive collection of SAKs you have there... I especially like the part where you recreated the bail... Awesome restoration...
:like: :cheers:
Welcome to MTO!
Awesome 1st post, and I agree with Jaya man, I like that bail restoration. :tu: I'd be interested in more details on how you did it.
:cheers:
Thanks! I'll try my best to explain.
The project started with the thought, "How would I make a bail/shackle for a custom resto-mod that's the width of a SwissChamp..."
The hardest part was the math...estimating the length needed on-center eye to eye for the correct look installed. A paper or card stock template to mock-up helped.
Once that was figured, estimating how to control finish length through the various forming steps was next.
I started with a 3/32 wire and it didn't seem like enough material to achieve the workable width and thickness after flattening a couple of ends. So I started with 2.5mm and decided to deal with the material removal needed on the center section instead of hammering which would change the length.
The shaping of the ends turned out to be the relatively easy part.
Flatten and form one end to have enough width and thickness for the final eyelet. Excess was left on the end to handle with pliers.
File details. Sure, that sounds easy, but NS is pretty soft and I only used 3 jewelers files. A half round taper, a small diameter round and a flat.
(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4906/31610066657_fab005bfeb_n.jpg)
Half round did most of the work at the 'neck' and around the eyelet and the flat did the visible 'step' and the back details/step. Small round to work the drilled eyelet final size and bevel.
Drilling the eyelet:
(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7898/45826591674_be628cf54e_n.jpg)
Open/locate hole with round file:
(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/838/29754928678_0e96c6a66c_n.jpg)
clip excess and taper eyelet:
(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/855/43900794652_4a0977f4e2_n.jpg)
Shape and reduce outer edge to match:
(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/932/43043697505_aea27a14f1_n.jpg)
Work the other end and control the eye to eye length:
(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1834/43043699315_627d9c1be2_n.jpg)
Finish the center section to match and bend to final shape before installation.
Hope that helps!
Post by: kamakiri on January 01, 2019, 07:50:40 AM
:MTO:
Welcome home.
:climber:
Feels like it, Butch! :cheers: Thanks, really, to all for the kind welcome! I'm feeling even guiltier for lurking so long. :cry:
I'm sure I'll get over that guilty feeling soon enough! :D
Post by: Aloha on January 01, 2019, 08:18:19 AM
Post by: jaya_man on January 01, 2019, 09:58:18 AM
Just kidding... awesome detailed explanation on the bail mod... :like:
Can we ask you to make a separate thread on the bail reproduction and modded SAK in the Mod Squad section? :cheers:
Post by: McStitchy on January 01, 2019, 10:30:25 AM
Thanks for the warm welcome :MTO: ! :cheers:
I checked how long I was signed up...QuoteDate Registered: February 21, 2018, 11:55:34 PM:facepalm:
Didn't think it was that long lurking!
Happy New Year :MTO:!Yes, it is!
Welcome.
Is that a double magnifier / in-line phillips mod?
So it's a pocket telescope then :D
Post by: Huntsman on January 01, 2019, 11:32:35 AM
......... Thanks, really, to all for the kind welcome! I'm feeling even guiltier for lurking so long. :cry: .......
Why ? ???
There is no oblligation to post! ;)
Although we are happy that you have chosen to now :tu:
It looks like you have a lot to share and will fit in v well :D
And thanks for that great intro Sir Kamakiri.
I love Hoffritzes too - I never knew about the two versions of the stamp - Although I did know about the switch from inlay to hot stamp
Off to check my Hoffritzes now !
And BTW - I think most of us lurked for a while before
Welcome :D
Post by: Mechanickal on January 01, 2019, 11:38:52 AM
:waving:
My introduction post seems so... lame... now... :D
Post by: Fuzzbucket on January 01, 2019, 12:01:59 PM
Is it just me or do all your spare parts look like they have little pixie faces? :think:
(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/942/43577254202_7a6699483e_n.jpg)
(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7898/45826591674_be628cf54e_n.jpg)
:cheers:
Post by: Wspeed on January 01, 2019, 12:47:49 PM
Post by: VICMAN on January 01, 2019, 02:03:27 PM
Nice pics! :like: :tu: :tu:
Post by: Greg Jones on January 01, 2019, 02:18:37 PM
Post by: ulzhan on January 01, 2019, 02:27:04 PM
:like:
Post by: gustophersmob on January 01, 2019, 02:42:40 PM
:like:
Post by: Rapidray on January 01, 2019, 03:40:53 PM
Post by: Myron on January 01, 2019, 03:45:35 PM
Post by: kamakiri on January 01, 2019, 08:42:10 PM
Question is, what took you soo long kamakiri? :pok:The explanation is weirder when I say it out loud...I was inclined to post over several topics since back in maybe 2016...but I thought it a little rude to barge into the community without at least a simple intro. Seemed even more rude as time passed since I've read lots of posts from most almost everybody...even from this thread! I even thought it a bit weird to want to donate to the site because I felt I personally gained from it...when I haven't even made a peep. Fixed both of those things yesterday...and also make the kick-off donation for 2019 in the amount of $20.19. Maybe a little cheesy...but hey, why not? The shoe fits...
Just kidding... awesome detailed explanation on the bail mod... :like:
Maybe a little like being a fly on the wall for years...and only taking human form now? :dunno:
Can we ask you to make a separate thread on the bail reproduction and modded SAK in the Mod Squad section? :cheers:Soitenly! I've got lots to add to existing threads that I've bookmarked and plan on starting a few where appropriate. Like dating with springs through the '70s...some awl info for @frater_martin...as well as some mag glass stuff, etc.
:MTO: Has help me spend my hobby money...now I'm doing my best to return the favor! ;)
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And many thanks everyone for the best welcome I've had to *any* forum! :salute: :tu: It's been a perfect way to start 2019. :D So glad to be here now! :woohoo:
Post by: CallsignBadger on January 01, 2019, 09:00:10 PM
Post by: Serena on January 01, 2019, 09:19:19 PM
Post by: Gath on January 01, 2019, 10:13:35 PM
I found out something that may help the owner's of the old scissors on the go: If you carefully place the tweezer tip into the screw and turn the tweezer handle firmly but not too strong, and , you can tighten the screw that way without carrying any extra tools. works at least on 91mm.
Post by: kamakiri on January 02, 2019, 01:54:45 AM
So it's a pocket telescope then :D
HA! I wish...
Got my inspiration from this magnifier I got from my Uncle when I was 10:
(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7831/32689395728_661cb24401.jpg)
One lens:
(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7921/32689394118_f0edb1c1a7.jpg)
Two lenses:
(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7907/32689394898_cc4e8dc7f9.jpg)
Hello there and... Welcome! :salute:
Is it just me or do all your spare parts look like they have little pixie faces? :think:
(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/942/43577254202_7a6699483e_n.jpg)
(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7898/45826591674_be628cf54e_n.jpg)
:cheers:
:oops: And once you see faces in something...you just *can't* UNSEE them!! :o :D
Post by: kamakiri on January 04, 2019, 10:24:39 PM
I said I have dating info to share. I thought I'd start with the awls c 1971 to '87+. I smurfed up the closeups so I'll add more detail later, and/or in a separate dating thread on this subject. I'd like to credit @Frater_Martin for his excellent awl graphics and all the @jazzbass answers and @Huntsman for timeline threads for getting me to look closer at awls. :tu:
(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4807/31662277017_601aafabd8_o.jpg)
The knives pulled for this sample pic:
1. c. '71 Champion LNF w/ file phillips and 'old' scissor small clip, etc. No +PAT
2. c. '71/'72 Master Craftsman w/ 'smooth' phillips - no can key, 'new' scissor with part polish and deep bevel machining
3. c. '73/'74 Hoffritz (Master) Craftsman with smooth+can key phillips, SS shield inaly, black scissor spring, partial deep bevel machining. Numbered scaler, small clip point. (I have one just like this non-Hoffritz and NS shield)
4. c. '76? Hoffritz Craftsman w/ SS 'Hoffritz' scale inlay No clip point, 'double thin (full) liner' protocol.Small scissor pivot screw. Numbered scaler
5. c. '77/8 sim. to #4 above but No number scaler, awl update 'thick and thin (full) liner' protocol. Large scissor pivot screw. I believe this to be a good example of discontinued part use in Hoffritz knives.
5a. MISSING. These are c. '80-'82 knives I'd likely insert a c. '80 Hoffritz with the 'Thick' shield SS inlay and v2 'Hoffritz' scale inlay.
6. '84 100th Anniversary Champion. I suspect late '83 production on these, because of non-bevel mag glass.
7. c. '86 Swiss Champ
8. '87+ Tinker Deluxe
Awl characteristics:
1. 50º machined tip w/ slight rotation. Eased/radiused outer edge. Concave back surface (raised at nail nick side)
2. 60º machined tip w/ slight rotation. Eased/radiused outer edge. 'Flat' back for all going forward.
3. 60º machined tip perpendicular. Eased/radiused outer edge.
4. 60º machined tip perpendicular. Outer edge is 90º for all going forward.
5. 70º machined tip perpendicular.
5a. No machined tip same shallow taper as all above.
6. No machined tip and taper increased.
7. Eye added. Otherwise sim to #6.
8. Taper increased and moved closer to tip past eye.
Thanks for looking! :hatsoff: Please question/comment/criticize! :)
EDIT:
OH, smurf it! :facepalm: :oops: :ahhh Forgot one that's supposed to be between 5. and 6. Gonna call it 5a. here and move numbering in all subsequent posts/references and list 9 types that I can identify on sight with a good pic straight from the bottom. EDIT2 And 5a goes after 5! :facepalm: :facepalm: :-[
Post by: CallsignBadger on January 04, 2019, 10:45:22 PM
:cheers:
Post by: kamakiri on January 05, 2019, 03:20:48 AM
Stellar! :like:
:cheers:
Thanks CsB! :salute: I'm glad somebody thinks so! :cheers:
Post by: CallsignBadger on January 05, 2019, 03:26:13 AM
Post by: Rapidray on January 05, 2019, 03:44:20 AM
Post by: kamakiri on January 05, 2019, 04:42:26 AM
Great information :cheers:
:cheers: Thanks Ray. You might also like what was in today's Mail Call :mail:...
a little dirty, but better than I was expecting and should clean up pretty well.
Hoffritz 134kmaU
(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7838/45693925955_008fd16afb.jpg)
(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4827/31667032257_169b4b2462.jpg)
aka 'small Master Craftsman' or 'Artisan'. Not that I like those names. I don't have as many 84mm knives, but some cool ones show up when I'm looking and they're hard to pass up.
And this Hoffritz Explorer...earliest one I've ever seen. Could be '73. Clip point, black spring, eased edge awl, NS inlay. Seller's photo:
(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4838/46556255382_ed10b680d6.jpg)
Took and offer and counter offer to get it, but I'm glad it came off the BIN asking price which I thought was unreasonable w/o a box or NIB condition.
:woohoo: for these two.
Post by: Rapidray on January 05, 2019, 05:54:05 AM
It will be in a nice home! :like:
Post by: kamakiri on January 05, 2019, 06:18:37 AM
Post by: Rapidray on January 05, 2019, 01:30:49 PM
:cheers: I was wondering if it was going to disappear while I was trying to strike a bargain! I hope you aren't into Marlboro Vics too! ;)No...you are safe! :rofl:
Post by: kamakiri on January 05, 2019, 06:43:03 PM
:tu: One less worry, then! :D:cheers: I was wondering if it was going to disappear while I was trying to strike a bargain! I hope you aren't into Marlboro Vics too! ;)No...you are safe! :rofl:
Post by: Wspeed on January 05, 2019, 06:46:33 PM
Nice one kamakiri :tu: :like:Great information :cheers:
:cheers: Thanks Ray. You might also like what was in today's Mail Call :mail:...
a little dirty, but better than I was expecting and should clean up pretty well.
Hoffritz 134kmaU
(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7838/45693925955_008fd16afb.jpg)
(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4827/31667032257_169b4b2462.jpg)
aka 'small Master Craftsman' or 'Artisan'. Not that I like those names. I don't have as many 84mm knives, but some cool ones show up when I'm looking and they're hard to pass up.
And this Hoffritz Explorer...earliest one I've ever seen. Could be '73. Clip point, black spring, eased edge awl, NS inlay. Seller's photo:
(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4838/46556255382_ed10b680d6.jpg)
Took and offer and counter offer to get it, but I'm glad it came off the BIN asking price which I thought was unreasonable w/o a box or NIB condition.
:woohoo: for these two.
Post by: kamakiri on January 05, 2019, 06:53:50 PM
Post by: Wspeed on January 05, 2019, 07:03:26 PM
Post by: kamakiri on January 05, 2019, 07:26:47 PM
Post by: Rapidray on January 05, 2019, 07:35:30 PM
You show up here and stay awhile, it becomes a second home! I say home because there are a lot of members here I would consider family!
Post by: Wspeed on January 05, 2019, 07:40:21 PM
And a lot of members are like family :tu: :like:
Post by: Rapidray on January 05, 2019, 07:45:47 PM
:iagree: it is definitely a second home:cheers:
And a lot of members are like family :tu: :like:
Post by: Wspeed on January 05, 2019, 07:49:18 PM
Post by: kamakiri on January 05, 2019, 07:59:48 PM
:iagree: it is definitely a second home
And a lot of members are like family :tu: :like:
Oh :iagree:
You show up here and stay awhile, it becomes a second home! I say home because there are a lot of members here I would consider family!
:iagree: :like:
Thanks, guys. :) I think I understood when Butch said "welcome home". Really feels like that here. Like I finally found 'my people'.
Post by: Rapidray on January 05, 2019, 08:03:36 PM
Post by: CallsignBadger on January 05, 2019, 08:06:33 PM
The people here are so beyond incredible
Post by: Wspeed on January 05, 2019, 08:07:28 PM
Post by: kamakiri on January 06, 2019, 01:21:10 AM
:cheers:
The people here are so beyond incredible
Generous friendly helpful :cheers: :like:
:iagree: :iagree: I saw it every time I peeked in here! :MTO: is the best! :tu:
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Spent some time cleaning the 134kmaU:
before:
(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7888/46569453262_297ac46086.jpg)
(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7900/32747534988_19d36e0448.jpg)
(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4839/45897663454_359a3f2c24.jpg)
after 1st pass
(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7834/39656786183_db92f84e69.jpg)
(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4889/32747537598_f48c826bcc.jpg)
(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7924/46569458522_118746cf2b.jpg)
(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4814/46569459602_0957c720bf.jpg)
Everything else wasn't so bad and the blades were relatively untouched. No nasty surprises at least. I'll post more when I get more of the oxidation and galvanic crud off.
Post by: CallsignBadger on January 06, 2019, 01:25:23 AM
:like:
Post by: kamakiri on January 06, 2019, 01:34:00 AM
Post by: CallsignBadger on January 06, 2019, 01:35:12 AM
:think:
Weird indeed
Post by: Rapidray on January 06, 2019, 01:41:33 AM
Post by: kamakiri on January 06, 2019, 07:20:22 AM
Next to a very nice 246fmaU Champion 'b' for comparison:
(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4805/45901044044_e32764e759.jpg)
(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7825/46572884002_784c844c89.jpg)
(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7858/45901045194_3d00abd9e7.jpg)
scales untouched for now
(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4910/31684002287_570a7f8317.jpg)
Champion end still has factory scale fitting marks
(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4893/45901045454_0871df6f3e.jpg)
The Craftsman...not so much. Probably the worst part of this knife
(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4831/46572884892_e5be95f317.jpg)
(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7818/32751045188_5457770c0d.jpg)
(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4813/45901043904_67519da45d.jpg)
(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7832/32751045378_9d192c5ae1.jpg)
wipe marks just not cleaned
(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4901/45901046144_c4c83154d7.jpg)
Showing liner contact marks. Otherwise very clean unsharpened/factory grind blade. minor deformations along the very edge.
(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7927/46625154271_6f36b93859.jpg)
(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4856/46625154371_567766b7c9.jpg)
(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7887/46625154521_17aee267d7.jpg)
top of liners could use more attention
(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7873/46625155161_8a375d93d3.jpg)
Still needs some detail cleaning at the spring contacts and around the pivots
Post by: CallsignBadger on January 06, 2019, 07:22:07 AM
Looks like it is going well :cheers: :popcorn:
Post by: Reinier on January 06, 2019, 09:42:44 AM
Post by: Wspeed on January 06, 2019, 12:41:37 PM
Post by: Rapidray on January 06, 2019, 02:49:21 PM
Post by: kamakiri on January 07, 2019, 03:20:43 AM
Hi! Welcome. Great thread!
Thank you Reinier! :hatsoff: Glad to be here! :cheers:
:like:
Looks like it is going well :cheers: :popcorn:
Great job kamakiri :tu: :like:
Thats a great job there! Well done. :like: :tu:
Thanks guys. :tu: Went to bed happy about it last night.
Found some spare time today to get on with the scale polishing and started with the front. Back looked easy enough to do later.
Looking it over, I decided I didn't want to go through the big longitudinal scratch and a few other short but deepish ones. I don't like removing a lot of material or to try to perfect a knife with any scratches this deep. Typically, I try to maintain the surface profile (including warpage, end curl, etc. like this one) over making it perfectly smooth or unnaturally flat planed.
(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7914/46639002511_cb13920645.jpg)
1st pass wet sand 2000
(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4894/45914496264_951ab234c6.jpg)
2nd pass 2000 and 2500 big scratch still there.
(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7906/46639004511_c87784aab3.jpg)
Not bad in 'flat' lighting from the sky reflection
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Could use a LOT more resurfacing looking with 'critical' lighting
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Next to the same Champion from yesterday/above
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Still needs work, but not bad for about 40 mins of effort including time for pics in-between.
Post by: CallsignBadger on January 07, 2019, 03:27:18 AM
:popcorn:
Post by: Rapidray on January 07, 2019, 03:54:01 AM
Post by: Wspeed on January 07, 2019, 12:21:13 PM
Post by: pfrsantos on January 07, 2019, 05:26:24 PM
:cheers: :tu: :salute: :hatsoff:
Post by: kamakiri on January 08, 2019, 12:32:06 AM
Welcome aboard! Great intro!
:cheers: :tu: :salute: :hatsoff:
Thank you Sir pfrsantos! :salute: Gotta say I've always liked your signature and recall (versions of) it from my earliest lurking days here. Especially the OCD and 'scrut' parts. :D
ISWTMTOMTON ;)
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Thanks guys! :salute:
Got the bug this morning to do more polishing on that Craftsman...
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Improved the surface a bit more for better reflections
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also knocked down some of the roundness that developed on the shield inlay
(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7823/45929444914_b497f18677.jpg)
(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7802/46654359021_d5274bbc9b.jpg)
Before
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After
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Might take a little more off the shield before I'm done. Still a little more proud than I'd like.
Post by: kamakiri on January 08, 2019, 12:36:46 AM
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Post by: CallsignBadger on January 08, 2019, 01:59:01 AM
Post by: Douglas on January 08, 2019, 05:35:07 AM
That's one serious collection and some very artistic work my friend. Welcome to the family, proud to have ya! :hatsoff:
Post by: Rapidray on January 08, 2019, 05:44:37 AM
Post by: Wspeed on January 08, 2019, 12:33:17 PM
Post by: glenfiddich1983 on January 08, 2019, 12:53:58 PM
By the way:
(…)
Rangers are great dating tools
(…)
That's what she said!
Post by: kamakiri on January 08, 2019, 08:27:24 PM
Welcome, and what a great introduction! :cheers:
By the way:(…)
Rangers are great dating tools
(…)
That's what she said!
:rofl: :tu: :cheers:
As me Pappy said, "welcome Home"Thanks very much Douglas! :hatsoff:
That's one serious collection and some very artistic work my friend. Welcome to the family, proud to have ya! :hatsoff:
This welcome is loooong and starts to feel like a red carpet!
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I appreciate all the kind comments!
No knife work so far today...might knock something together if my afternoon frees up.
Might have spent a little *bay time already...maybe I should have accepted FolderBeholder's Feb challenge? :think: :D
Post by: kamakiri on January 10, 2019, 01:24:33 AM
Show content
(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7856/45957663044_a690dd9822_n.jpg)
Any guesses what's going on here? :D
Post by: CallsignBadger on January 10, 2019, 01:37:00 AM
Everything looks backwards :ahhh
Or... :whistle:
Post by: kamakiri on January 10, 2019, 01:43:30 AM
Good job so far! :tu:
Post by: CallsignBadger on January 10, 2019, 02:02:14 AM
The keyring hole and combo tool are facing forward, and also on the opposite side...
And the scissors match that...
Its unique, whatever it is :tu:
:popcorn:
Post by: Rapidray on January 10, 2019, 03:41:31 AM
Post by: kamakiri on January 10, 2019, 08:04:13 AM
(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7837/46629669332_9257708ca4_n.jpg)
Don't need no keyrings
(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7858/46685804591_fb69cf086d_n.jpg)
Refinishing edges of liners
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Show content
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Show content
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Not sure if I'll have the time to finish it tomorrow. Out of time for today!
Post by: Wspeed on January 10, 2019, 12:34:12 PM
Post by: Rapidray on January 10, 2019, 03:22:47 PM
Post by: CallsignBadger on January 10, 2019, 03:49:24 PM
Post by: kamakiri on January 12, 2019, 04:51:02 AM
(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4912/46708588441_36d69c3235_n.jpg)
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(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4883/46708585691_23feae827c_n.jpg)
And apparently, I can use the Force to levitate knives:
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(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7860/46655885892_38a356cc68_n.jpg)
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Still need to finish filing and peening. Anyone notice that I was working with the pins 'free' and not in any jig or board?
Any guesses on the scales planned? Or suggestions what you'd use? :dunno:
Can I claim the combo tool location as 'kamakiri style'? :D
Post by: Wspeed on January 12, 2019, 12:36:00 PM
Post by: Rapidray on January 12, 2019, 04:27:53 PM
Had 41 minutes to get a little more done before I needed to get started on dinner... :ahhh so forgive me for not taking pics at every step!I was thinking the free pins where for photo looks.
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(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4883/46708585691_23feae827c_n.jpg)
And apparently, I can use the Force to levitate knives:
(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7808/46655888772_a18766a724_n.jpg)
(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7860/46655885892_38a356cc68_n.jpg)
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Still need to finish filing and peening. Anyone notice that I was working with the pins 'free' and not in any jig or board?
Any guesses on the scales planned? Or suggestions what you'd use? :dunno:
Can I claim the combo tool location as 'kamakiri style'? :D
G10 scales! :tu:
Post by: CallsignBadger on January 12, 2019, 06:47:17 PM
I’ll back the “kamakiri style” :tu:
If its a 91, I vote black plus scales :tu:
Post by: kamakiri on January 12, 2019, 11:03:40 PM
I was thinking the free pins where for photo looks.That's a great suggestion! I've never had one with G10 before. :think: Color suggestion, Ray? I'm thinking I'd get some SwissBianco ones in the future when I mod something I really like.
G10 scales! :tu:
Nice work kamakiri :tu: :like:
Thanks Wspeed! I gotta say I'm not trying to make this one super clean and used the drilled side bushings from both knives instead of the 6 clean ones. Peening is going to be rough as I see this assembly as temporary for my use and testing.
Great build! :cheers::cheers: Been lurking for a while but wasn't sure if it was done before and I never noticed. Thanks CsB! Black is and has been a consideration. And I have some in stock...
I’ll back the “kamakiri style” :tu:
If its a 91, I vote black plus scales :tu:
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Okay, the scales I had at the top of the list were Silvertech...but I've been agonizing over the lack of Plus option. It was mostly for the look, as I was polishing this one inside and out for all visible surfaces. And then put aluminum tweezers in...
Might just stick some temporary red NTO stock I got from Central Valley Wholesale before they closed up Vic sales.
Post by: CallsignBadger on January 12, 2019, 11:12:36 PM
G10 does sound nice, though :like:
Post by: Rapidray on January 13, 2019, 01:45:33 AM
Post by: CallsignBadger on January 13, 2019, 03:44:35 AM
Post by: kamakiri on January 13, 2019, 06:23:31 AM
:cheers:
G10 does sound nice, though :like:
Here are the G10’s - and they are SwissBianco
That is nice too... Very GAK-like! :like:
I've had several types of the SwissBianco ones bookmarked...I just find them a little spendy and not always available in plus style or glow dot. Orange has been at the top of the G10 list but some neon green ones have been available cheap recently. :-\ :think:
Maybe a little anti-climactic, but I buttoned it up with temporary scales - the take-offs from the donor Explorer while I evaluate carry this mod/build.
(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4883/39756646063_722f055486_z.jpg)
For now 'officially' calling it a Reverse Compact Explorer w/ Nail File or Kamakiri Explorer. Probably needs a better name.
shiny inside:
(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7887/32846632508_5d02daafba_n.jpg)
1 pin end is probably not flush on the left side of this pic. ugh.
(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7921/39756646813_a65cec989b_n.jpg)
Probably should cut my own spacer or make it evenly recessed
(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4838/32846632868_fd4d800b14_n.jpg)
(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7815/32846633198_c724e4360c_n.jpg)
One issue with putting the in line phillips next to the liner is that it makes contact. I used an interior spacer on one side when I did the double magnifier from earlier because of this issue.
(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7832/32846633538_d985b358d4_n.jpg)
(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4819/32846634628_30a91bfcf7_n.jpg)
Thanks for the support, suggestions and kind comments during this build! :)
Post by: kamakiri on January 13, 2019, 06:34:46 AM
:ahhh too many options...
Post by: CallsignBadger on January 13, 2019, 06:38:55 AM
'Yeoman Special' was the initial project name...but maybe Reverse Yeoman makes more sense? Small Blade Yeoman? Kamakiri Yeoman?
:ahhh too many options...
Hmm :dunno:
Its very nice though, whatever it may be called :tu:
Post by: kamakiri on January 13, 2019, 07:18:57 AM
:cheers: Thanks CsB :) ...It's also a Left-Hand Yeoman. :D :facepalm:'Yeoman Special' was the initial project name...but maybe Reverse Yeoman makes more sense? Small Blade Yeoman? Kamakiri Yeoman?
:ahhh too many options...
Hmm :dunno:
Its very nice though, whatever it may be called :tu:
And checking the wiki on Yeomen, theres a pic of two with the scissor and mag/phillips layer switched. Might have worked better for this one too. I don't use hooks much, but I like it better in the middle for kickstand use.
Post by: Rapidray on January 13, 2019, 03:48:34 PM
Kickstand duty and usage is a plus! :like: :tu::cheers: Thanks CsB :) ...It's also a Left-Hand Yeoman. :D :facepalm:'Yeoman Special' was the initial project name...but maybe Reverse Yeoman makes more sense? Small Blade Yeoman? Kamakiri Yeoman?
:ahhh too many options...
Hmm :dunno:
Its very nice though, whatever it may be called :tu:
And checking the wiki on Yeomen, theres a pic of two with the scissor and mag/phillips layer switched. Might have worked better for this one too. I don't use hooks much, but I like it better in the middle for kickstand use.
Post by: CallsignBadger on January 13, 2019, 05:39:38 PM
Post by: Greg Jones on January 13, 2019, 05:57:57 PM
Post by: CallsignBadger on January 13, 2019, 06:12:13 PM
This is a pleasure to watch :hatsoff:
Agreed! :like: :cheers:
Post by: kamakiri on January 14, 2019, 12:08:56 AM
Kickstand duty and usage is a plus! :like: :tu:And always better used that way without either keyring style in the way. I gotta make one with a hook and shackle, because the it can be flipped out of the way!
This is a pleasure to watch :hatsoff:
Agreed! :like: :cheers:
Thanks gentlemen, and good to meet you Sir Jones! :hatsoff: :salute:
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I was thinking about making it a Woodsman or Modeler version, but indecision on that and what donor knife to pull got in the way of project timing. Next one is probably going to be a kamakiri Troubleshooter.
Post by: CallsignBadger on January 14, 2019, 12:42:59 AM
Post by: Wspeed on January 14, 2019, 12:31:24 PM
Post by: Rapidray on January 14, 2019, 02:35:00 PM
woodsman sounds great!
Post by: kamakiri on February 02, 2019, 07:27:48 AM
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Liners were too dirty and oxidized to leave alone. Re-brushed them all before polishing all the visible surfaces and edges.
Gonna go through all the tools too, so assembly might not happen until next week. Only tool done was the Metal Saw and that's not going to get extra polish.
Post by: McStitchy on February 02, 2019, 09:18:08 AM
I was wondering, does the combo tool get in contact with the scissors?
And do you think the mag/philips layer could be better put into the middle position?
Excellent thread btw :hatsoff:
Looking forward to the next one :popcorn:
Post by: Wspeed on February 02, 2019, 12:41:46 PM
Post by: kamakiri on February 02, 2019, 07:42:36 PM
Great mod the reverse kamakiri style yeoman thingy :like:
I was wondering, does the combo tool get in contact with the scissors?
And do you think the mag/philips layer could be better put into the middle position?
Excellent thread btw :hatsoff:
Looking forward to the next one :popcorn:
:cheers: Thanks, MTMatt!
There's zero contact for the combo and scissor. The combo tool does sit into the liner space, but have to push pretty hard to make them touch. I thought about the mag layer in the middle like the Swiss Bianco? (not sure on that), but I think the older/longer Phillips would make contact with the combo where the newer short style wouldn't (I suppose). If I recall correctly, the original Yeoman had the same liner contact issue. I figured I could live with it.
Not sure if I mentioned it earlier, the main reason for the reverse is to have the short side spring and higher compression to resist movement better when using it as a pry tool. I'd say the force to close is nearly double from the normal position. I know most would not like the small blade, but I wanted this to be proof of concept to put a Pruner blade instead.
This one is 'nothing special' technically speaking. I've got some other more interesting stuff lined up for 'proofing'. :tu:
Looking good :popcorn:
:cheers: Thank you Sir W! :salute: I hope this one isn't too boring!
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I also gotta get back to some of the content I intended for the original post. :ahhh But new mods are more fun. :woohoo:
-More of the story for my '84.5 Champion
-The bee story
- Marlboro stuff and mods
-Champions
-Early naming conventions (Particularly Craftsman and 136xxx relatives)
-More Hoffritz and Timeline data
-Ranger Production Timeline
-Camping Inlay Timeline
-Vintage Catalog version dating.
And I'm probably forgetting something at the moment. ::) :think:
Post by: AlephZero on February 02, 2019, 08:15:42 PM
I'd just call it Yeokiri and be done with it! ::) :D
Post by: kamakiri on February 02, 2019, 08:22:47 PM
Beautiful work with the Yeoman! :salute:
I'd just call it Yeokiri and be done with it! ::) :D
:tu: Thanks, AlephZero! I'm just not that clever! :hatsoff:
Post by: Wspeed on February 02, 2019, 08:53:26 PM
Post by: AlephZero on February 02, 2019, 08:54:05 PM
Post by: CallsignBadger on February 03, 2019, 07:14:01 PM
Post by: kamakiri on February 05, 2019, 05:41:58 AM
Had some time to finish my Troubleshooter Lite + Pen. Waffled a bit about adding a Wood Saw and using the Corkscrew instead for this temporary/test build and making it a Handyman Lite Plus, but it would add time to get the Saw from the fodder box. And adding another Layer would make it close to Champ size. This way it would still be about a half layer thinner than a Champ and about a full layer thinner than a CT Lite but have at least 1 saw. Intent is to have a Magnifier in place of the In-line Phillips for the 'final' build.
Misc polishing:
(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7819/32047730747_a23e879020_n.jpg)
Don't need this:
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'free' pins during assembly:
(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4833/46075410185_6d446f28bb_n.jpg)
Layer 1 Openers/Awl:
(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4844/32047732407_5ed007d270_n.jpg)
Layer2 Lite (would add magnifier here on permanent build instead of phillips):
(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7819/46075411265_40f159373c_n.jpg)
(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7914/46075411385_1db65a2bab_n.jpg)
Layer 3 Pliers (FYI - If I put the scissor here it could save a 1mm spacer):
(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4811/46075411835_61afe4817a_n.jpg)
Layer 4 Scissor/Hook:
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Layer 5 Saw/Chisel:
(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7815/32047735767_9b36fe1e4e_n.jpg)
Layer 6 Blades and back Phillips:
(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4904/46075414235_7fedef2c3c_n.jpg)
Top view:
(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7899/46264891024_2fb580f48c_n.jpg)
Measure and trim pins:
(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7827/46264891364_41a9b366d7_n.jpg)
Hammer Time:
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Pressed on original/modified for pen scales:
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Very entertaining :like: :cheers:
:cheers: Thanks, CsB...I hope this one was, even if a little. Was glad for the knife time today and to finish this one. :woohoo:
Post by: CallsignBadger on February 05, 2019, 05:46:44 AM
Nice one :tu: :like:
Post by: kamakiri on February 05, 2019, 06:07:22 AM
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Troublemaker living up to its name...showing off new hardware to it's sibling and Hoffritz cousin:
(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7907/46938092522_83d7dd6c12.jpg)
Post by: McStitchy on February 05, 2019, 11:06:15 AM
Post by: Wspeed on February 05, 2019, 12:37:25 PM
Post by: CallsignBadger on February 05, 2019, 04:46:11 PM
Post by: Rapidray on February 05, 2019, 04:51:08 PM
Post by: kamakiri on February 06, 2019, 06:46:45 PM
:like: Nice peening, excellent work Kamakiri :hatsoff:
:cheers: Thanks, MTMatt! Better looking than when I clip-n-hammer for temporary builds using the damaged bushings!
Excellent work kamakiri :cheers: :like:
Thanks, Wspeed! I always put more effort with builds that may be permanent. And get even pickier with restorations. I left one of the pins about 0.12 mm longer than I wanted and would have taken it off for a restoration, but okay for a user like this.
:cheers: :like: :tu:
Thanks, CsB! I hope there's still entertainment value in there! :cheers:
Nice limited edition :like: :tu:I thought you might notice that, Ray! :cheers: ;)
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Gotta quickly figure out what I'm going to do with knife time this afternoon...might just be cleaning some of the recent arrivals. :dunno:
Post by: Rapidray on February 06, 2019, 07:02:58 PM
Oh yeah, I saw! :rofl::like: Nice peening, excellent work Kamakiri :hatsoff:
:cheers: Thanks, MTMatt! Better looking than when I clip-n-hammer for temporary builds using the damaged bushings!Excellent work kamakiri :cheers: :like:
Thanks, Wspeed! I always put more effort with builds that may be permanent. And get even pickier with restorations. I left one of the pins about 0.12 mm longer than I wanted and would have taken it off for a restoration, but okay for a user like this.:cheers: :like: :tu:
Thanks, CsB! I hope there's still entertainment value in there! :cheers:Nice limited edition :like: :tu:I thought you might notice that, Ray! :cheers: ;)
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Gotta quickly figure out what I'm going to do with knife time this afternoon...might just be cleaning some of the recent arrivals. :dunno:
Glad you got it! :cheers: :hatsoff:
Post by: kamakiri on February 10, 2019, 10:11:53 PM
Small blade in the listing only mentioned 'light scratches' and said nothing about the very pronounced BENT TIP ::)
Mother Hamster Smurf it ALL:
(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7821/46139124355_0380d03045_n.jpg)
a bit better:
(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7882/46328927784_80de0ae10b_n.jpg)
Still too visible from the blade side:
(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7903/46328928124_097115cc1a_n.jpg)
Good enough to leave for now. At least it sits nowhere near the main blade now.
(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7903/46328929924_8ac2906ffd_n.jpg)
Rest of the knife and the edge on this blade was great so I didn't want to bother with a return or refund or pulling it apart to replace the blade. I have enough of those to do that I knew about when purchasing. ::)
Just glad I didn't have any errant blows and ruin the factory edge. Still cuts nicely and separates news print just fine.
Post by: CallsignBadger on February 10, 2019, 10:13:42 PM
Post by: Wspeed on February 10, 2019, 10:39:10 PM
Post by: kamakiri on February 11, 2019, 12:25:38 AM
Post by: Rapidray on February 11, 2019, 02:00:15 AM
Post by: kamakiri on February 11, 2019, 07:22:05 AM
Excellent job on the blade straightening :like: :tu: :cheers:
:cheers: Thanks Ray! If it doesn't break, I'm okay with it! :tu:
Post by: McStitchy on February 11, 2019, 08:02:31 AM
Yeah, not too bad and I've fixed worse but with some degradation of the cosmetics. I'm more concerned with not marring the edge or sides on this one. Making it straight might come at the expense of some surface dimpling. I always try for the 'right' fix for the given condition.
Or... you've got to know when to stop :D
Excellent fix Kamakari :tu:
Post by: Rapidray on February 11, 2019, 03:07:49 PM
:rofl:Excellent job on the blade straightening :like: :tu: :cheers:
:cheers: Thanks Ray! If it doesn't break, I'm okay with it! :tu:
If it doesn’t break
Post by: kamakiri on February 11, 2019, 05:24:01 PM
:rofl:Excellent job on the blade straightening :like: :tu: :cheers:
:cheers: Thanks Ray! If it doesn't break, I'm okay with it! :tu:
If it doesn’t break
Always a big 'IF' once I start swingin' the hammer! :D
Post by: Rapidray on February 12, 2019, 02:55:01 AM
:rofl: :cheers::rofl:Excellent job on the blade straightening :like: :tu: :cheers:
:cheers: Thanks Ray! If it doesn't break, I'm okay with it! :tu:
If it doesn’t break
Always a big 'IF' once I start swingin' the hammer! :D
Post by: McStitchy on March 13, 2019, 08:31:06 AM
Post by: kamakiri on March 13, 2019, 08:05:22 PM
Hey Grant, what's new? :hatsoff:
First answer that came to mind is: Sourdough. :D
A friend of ours gave me some active starter so I thought I'd give it a go and use it in my pizza dough and make some sourdough loaves.
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SAK-wise I've been going through and cleaning/repairing recent arrivals. Mostly busy work and light repairs. Started pulling apart some of the donors for my next project, but have only started 2 (SwissChamps) of the 5 or 6 it needs. Might get more done later today. Gonna be a little slow on the prep for this one. I want the polish to 'match' on parts from different eras. Gonna be a bit of work if I choose an unpolished/machine finish pruner blade. And since so many spacers and liners will be loose I need to cherry pick though the parts after some cleaning. Doesn't help that I'm still mulling over the tools to include.
Sounds less fun the more I type! :D
Post by: McStitchy on March 13, 2019, 09:15:38 PM
It's just not something you can do in a hurry, like a pizza.
That new SAK project of yours sounds... big :popcorn:
Btw, found a nice "period correct" addition to the Traveller :salute:
Post by: Wspeed on March 13, 2019, 09:21:55 PM
Post by: kamakiri on March 13, 2019, 09:46:13 PM
I love sourdough bread :drool:
It's just not something you can do in a hurry, like a pizza.
That new SAK project of yours sounds... big :popcorn:
Btw, found a nice "period correct" addition to the Traveller :salute:
Nice addition, Matt! :tu: I always include the mini SD when possible.
Is there still stuff coming out of the joints between the tools and liners/springs? I only used oil (Vic MTO) to clean it so I wouldn't risk damaging/melting original scales with alcohol.
I only used the starter (no commercial yeast added) for the pizza dough too...so while it's quick on the prep time, it's still taking a while to rise. I normally do refrigerated proofing for my pizza dough over 3-5 days, but I was inclined to leave these out for a few hours this morning just to give them a faster start. I'll probably bake those Friday. Gonna attempt the bread loaf tomorrow if I don't forget a feeding for the starter.
Post by: McStitchy on March 14, 2019, 08:03:41 PM
I'm using Ballistol.
I had the scissors grinding at the backspring suddenly. I worked that away carefully with lots of open-close actions, oil and cleaning after every 5 cycles or so.
It's all good, I love it :hatsoff:
Enjoy your sourdough bread. My wife makes some sometimes. :salute:
Post by: kamakiri on March 14, 2019, 09:06:04 PM
Must be nice to have your wife make it. Mine prefers simpler projects like soda bread. Pleased with my first attempt!
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Post by: Wspeed on March 14, 2019, 09:21:21 PM
Post by: McStitchy on March 15, 2019, 09:05:13 AM
Nice one Matt :like: :tu:
Oh, hey.... cheers Wim :hatsoff:
Post by: McStitchy on March 15, 2019, 09:10:30 AM
That's interesting about the scissor spring. I didn't notice anything visually or in operation. Vic MTO is pretty thick and could mask contact surface roughness. If the Ballistol lube component is on the thin side, it might not like the shearing action.
Must be nice to have your wife make it. Mine prefers simpler projects like soda bread. Pleased with my first attempt!
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Just want to make sure, don't mean the tiny spring on the scissors. I mean the spring for the tool itself. I think it's called backspring?
It was working smoothly initially, so it's a bit weird it did develop that suddenly. Maybe some "stuff" that came loose and got caught under it :dunno:
I've added a pic...
Tasty looking bread Grant :drool:
Post by: kamakiri on March 17, 2019, 05:21:55 AM
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I remember noting how clean those surfaces were even from the first pics.
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I'm thinking that either something worked loose or the Ballistol is more solvent than lubricant. The stuff that came out was like tar or varnish and didn't seem to be carrying dirt or grit as it came out. The large scissor spring puts on a fair amount of compression and will gall surfaces quickly without adequate lubrication. Including light oil like 3 in 1. When I clean with alcohol or put a new mod together, I lube liberally with Vic MTO at the backspring contact and the top so that the liners are lubricated too. I learned what that grinding noise is the hard way. :(
Post by: McStitchy on March 17, 2019, 10:15:40 AM
It is slightly alkalic though, but never had a problem with it on my SAKs and MTs :think:
I always oil the liner areas too as you said.
I had a very very slight grinding problem on the other '80s Traveller on 3 implements but they were unused and not as highly polished as they are these days. It quickly went away.
Never any of those problems on newer SAKs.
No worries Grant, it's got better already and snaps open and close with no grinding. Just not super slick.
How's your project going? :popcorn:
Post by: kamakiri on March 26, 2019, 03:42:08 AM
I'm using Ballistol since the early '80s and trust it.
It is slightly alkalic though, but never had a problem with it on my SAKs and MTs :think:
I always oil the liner areas too as you said.
I had a very very slight grinding problem on the other '80s Traveller on 3 implements but they were unused and not as highly polished as they are these days. It quickly went away.
Never any of those problems on newer SAKs.
No worries Grant, it's got better already and snaps open and close with no grinding. Just not super slick.
How's your project going? :popcorn:
No real progress on the current project...I haven't had much continuous knife time so I've been mostly doing minor repairs and cleaning recent arrivals.
Also got a little side-tracked on some nickel silver pin production:
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I've forgotten how much I dislike turning pins down from 3/32". Been itching to do a vintage resto-mod and some repairs that'll need the 2.2mm pins. Not looking forward to turning long sections.
Spring (the season) cleaning is taking up way more of my free time than I thought...and I'm nowhere near being done.
Post by: McStitchy on March 27, 2019, 09:14:51 AM
Turning down pinstock? How much braided wire do you need? :rofl:
Post by: kamakiri on October 27, 2021, 07:58:39 AM
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:dunno:
And this wasn’t well received in the mod forum…so I thought I’d drop this here too. Figured out how to ‘cut‘ the rivet heads so that bushings, liners, and vintage scales go through disassembly without damage or perhaps less damage than by drilling. Still a work in progress…and that’s all I’m saying about it. Here are the pics of what I did yesterday and today.
Post by: Huntsman on October 27, 2021, 11:23:24 PM
The pin removal technique sounds interesting - It's always a tricky job to do - Can you enlighten us some more on the approach pls?
Post by: kamakiri on October 30, 2021, 08:40:34 PM
Very interesting old knife KK - I guess there can't be many SAKs with that design of opener and the Phillips as the can-opener went out and Phillips came in round about the same time.Yes, and not many are known in 90/91mm. Some doubt their existence. The big question is wether tge Phillips is from earlier than Victorinox’s records/estimate/published date or that the crab claws lasted longer.
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The pin removal technique sounds interesting - It's always a tricky job to do - Can you enlighten us some more on the approach pls?It’s a work in progress and everyone in the mod forum isn’t happy that I’m not providing more details. :dunno:
It is letting me move forward with some projects I had on the back burner. Also tested the method on vintage ribbed Alox. Made this 111mm yesterday:
Post by: kamakiri on November 10, 2021, 06:53:06 AM
Everything works well, so I’ll be moving forward with the Workchamp version with both features OHO Slide lock and this style liner lock 100mm pruner ‘XS’ added.
Post by: kamakiri on November 11, 2021, 08:26:04 PM
Post by: kamakiri on November 11, 2021, 08:39:56 PM
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Post by: GrouchoM on November 11, 2021, 10:28:32 PM
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Post by: kamakiri on November 11, 2021, 11:24:48 PM
Post by: GrouchoM on November 12, 2021, 12:55:33 AM
Yes, reducing the tip by sharpening or reproducing another millimeter+ or so would make it clear. I took a bit off the corner of the round of the tang to help a bit. But it’s hard to work the material that way in an assembled knife. Still hangs low.Thanks for checking. Was this due to the donor? Is it easier to start with a Spartan and add the magnifier than to remove a layer from an Explorer?
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Post by: kamakiri on November 12, 2021, 01:26:45 AM
Thanks for checking. Was this due to the donor? Is it easier to start with a Spartan and add the magnifier than to remove a layer from an Explorer?
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Yeah the original problem was with the donor. Unfortunately, it wouldn’t be easier for me to start with the spartan. The spartan would end up with shorter pins and likely mismatching parts. I was just distracted/excited/pleased when I took the scales off that they matched my date estimate for the knife exactly. The front scale is dated ‘98 and the back one ‘99. I just failed to double check everything before cleaning or tear down.
Post by: kamakiri on November 12, 2021, 01:48:51 AM
Post by: GrouchoM on November 12, 2021, 02:12:57 AM
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Post by: kamakiri on November 13, 2021, 04:49:58 AM
Buttoned up a few mods today, but this one took the most work. Changed a few things from what I planned earlier. Liner lock works great and with the 111mm frame it’ll be a whole lot safer.
It’s a Trekker with the 100mm hawksbill swapped plus a hook.
Post by: kamakiri on November 19, 2021, 04:20:58 AM
:woohoo:
Internal/design pics in the mod forum in hulk’s thread here:
https://forum.multitool.org/index.php/topic,88434.msg2296650.html#msg2296650
Still need to finish the cosmetic trimming and polishing, but the mechanics are 100% done.
In a nutshell:
No trimmed blades, tip sits inside alox scale profile.
No added or externally visible joints in backspring or tools.
Don’t break the scissor spring!!! Not serviceable without taking the knife apart.
Snap is insane. Avoiding the original pivot hole limits how close the new round of the tang can be. And I left over 1mm of material. Could go thinner, but didn’t.
Hook sits ~0.5mm proud. Reducing or eliminating this is possible, but lots of work and I wanted to see what could be done without modifying the hook itself.
Post by: kamakiri on November 19, 2021, 04:36:43 AM
Post by: kamakiri on November 27, 2021, 02:30:32 AM
Found this one that needed a 1-minute fix.
The cool thing about the knife is that it’s c.’81 and has a stainless advertising inlay and a rare-ish back shield in nickel silver.
Post by: kamakiri on November 27, 2021, 02:35:10 AM
This smurfy plastic had to go…
Post by: kamakiri on November 27, 2021, 02:41:31 AM
Post by: kamakiri on November 29, 2021, 03:21:31 AM
Post by: kamakiri on December 01, 2021, 02:24:31 AM
Serrated Bantam X
74mm scissors
4 knives used for donor parts.
Post by: GrouchoM on December 01, 2021, 05:48:35 AM
Just a test fit…👍
Serrated Bantam X
74mm scissors
4 knives used for donor parts.
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Post by: SteveP on December 01, 2021, 06:05:10 AM
Just a test fit…Nice!
Serrated Bantam X
74mm scissors
4 knives used for donor parts.
Post by: Rizio Il Ghiro on December 01, 2021, 09:09:43 AM
Post by: kamakiri on December 01, 2021, 04:24:44 PM
I still have to decide if I’m going to assemble this one as shown. Other options for this knife are to flip the orientation of the 74mm scissors or switch to 91mm ones with the hook, or do another spring for the no hook 91mm.
The small advantage of this orientation is that the exposed profile of the scissors completely fits within the profile of the main blade when closed. Bad part is that those two nail nicks are pretty close.
:-\ Decisions, decisions.
Post by: kamakiri on December 03, 2021, 12:56:27 AM
:-\ Decisions, decisions.
Ok. Couldn’t stand it any longer and pulled the temporary end pins and put nickel silver ones I turned. Center pin is reused from one of the Cadets I pulled apart. Trimmed pins for a flush fit.
Post by: Rizio Il Ghiro on December 03, 2021, 08:56:02 AM
Post by: kamakiri on December 03, 2021, 03:55:18 PM
That looks great, Kamakiri! :like: :like: :cheers:Thanks, Rizio! :cheers:
The reality is that I put in two tools that needed a lot of sharpening! The Serrated Recruit was the worst of the ones I had in the donor box. The 74mm scissor came from a well used money clip that I needed for something else a while back. Serrated blade was just completely dull in the 3 teeth toward the tip. Lots of bends at most of the tips of the teeth. So the factory grind had to go completely, which I hate doing. Scissors are done, but gonna take me some time to get the blade where I want it for a user.
Post by: kamakiri on December 05, 2021, 05:12:32 AM
Boom. The hard part is done!
Best part was not breaking or shattering anything to do it!
:woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo:
Post by: kamakiri on December 05, 2021, 06:17:53 AM
Post by: kamakiri on December 07, 2021, 10:55:28 PM
Post by: kamakiri on December 25, 2021, 02:08:09 AM
Just the magnifier and a modded UV LED, GITD on the front.
Spy Kid Decoder:
Post by: GrouchoM on December 25, 2021, 02:17:11 AM
Made this today for my oldest.Scientist jr.?
Just the magnifier and a modded UV LED, GITD on the front.
Spy Kid Decoder:
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Post by: kamakiri on December 25, 2021, 03:21:54 AM
Scientist jr.?
Lol. Mad Scientist Jr. ;) :D
Post by: SteveP on December 25, 2021, 07:13:44 AM
Made this today for my oldest.:like:
Just the magnifier and a modded UV LED, GITD on the front.
Spy Kid Decoder:
I like the GITD.
Post by: Rizio Il Ghiro on December 25, 2021, 09:23:08 AM
Post by: kamakiri on December 25, 2021, 10:16:22 PM
Post by: kamakiri on January 03, 2022, 06:16:56 AM
:whistle:
Post by: kamakiri on January 04, 2022, 05:05:41 PM
Post by: SteveP on January 05, 2022, 07:02:37 AM
:like:
Does the shield light come on with the flashlight? Or are they switched separately?
Post by: kamakiri on January 05, 2022, 04:34:37 PM
OK, those are both beyond cool.
:like:
Does the shield light come on with the flashlight? Or are they switched separately?
Thanks SteveP! :cheers:
I wired the Huntsman (blue) with the module switch to come on in two steps. Press for the module light and lock on for both.
The red one is wired so you lift the module out and squeeze it like the moment switch style on a Photon.
Brief (easy way) ‘how to’:
Need (arguably) LED string 2-wire insulated
Remove scale(s)
Figure out where you want pass-thru, and drill.
Sand or file two ends of LED lead wires
Drill module case
Wires on mine were about 0.4mm each. I drilled 1.0mm and 0.9.mm.
Thin LED height. Mine are about 2.3mm tall and I reduced to ~1.8mm
Pass wires thru frame. test polarity of wires and mark. I used red sharpie for +.
Pass wires into module case. Hookup and test.
Locate and epoxy LED to scale plug or secure in pass thru hole with epoxy. Epoxy not ‘required’ but good practice so wire insulation doesn’t rub thru and short.
Glow epoxy scales or liner or LED.
Reattach scales. Epoxy shut if desired for water or dust resistance
:tu:
Showed my siblings and even one of my sisters wants two. :gimme: :gimme:
I was doing a full hidden wire and ‘clean’ install when I realized I could do it this way and complete like 3or 4 in an hour. Lots of ways to do the electrical too…even to squeeze way more LEDs in if desired.
Post by: Barry Rowland on January 05, 2022, 06:03:37 PM
Post by: kamakiri on January 06, 2022, 12:00:35 AM
Talked to the sister who wants the same mod today. It’ll be a Huntsman Lite with the only change of a magnifier instead of the in-line Phillips…maybe a serrated main. 2nd knife will be like the Yeo-kiri earlier in this thread, but added Metal saw + chisel.
Gonna spec nephew’s knives after he uses my sister’s knives.
Post by: GrouchoM on January 06, 2022, 02:28:50 AM
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Post by: kamakiri on January 06, 2022, 07:53:08 AM
Can this be added to a non-lite model like an Explorer?
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Pretty sure it could. The lite module is an easy, existing source of power to tap. But anywhere you can put lithium button cells would work, I think. Lots of micro switch options that fit on or in a SAK.
It’s been one of my plans to try one like that without the Lite module. Explorers and Cybertools are at the top of my list for that.
I have several projects planned along these lines and misc. hardware inbound to support the effort.
Post by: GrouchoM on January 06, 2022, 11:09:09 AM
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Post by: kamakiri on January 06, 2022, 03:33:47 PM
If you make an Explorer like that, I'll be envious forever.....In Blue/sapphire? The newer color? They keep changing it! I can almost date Sapphire knives just by the color. Without checking the date codes or looking at the style of back scale. And Explorer not Passenger? Still a preference for a gray magnifier?
Sister already claimed a nice ‘04 set that’s faded toward teal.
Post by: GrouchoM on January 06, 2022, 08:46:14 PM
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Post by: kamakiri on January 07, 2022, 06:01:12 AM
Gray magnifier. Either blue or red (doesn't matter) . I don't need the scissors, but I'd be OK if they were there.
Test fit in older mag layers and the 1225 batteries don’t fit at all. 1 or 2 fit in the newer ones depending which side the driver is on.
Post by: kamakiri on January 07, 2022, 06:02:35 AM
Post by: GrouchoM on January 07, 2022, 10:35:32 AM
Test fit in older mag layers and the 1225 batteries don’t fit at all. 1 or 2 fit in the newer ones depending which side the driver is on.Could the batteries fit in lieu of the scissors or the on-end Phillips screwdriver?
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Post by: kamakiri on January 07, 2022, 05:37:26 PM
Could the batteries fit in lieu of the scissors or the on-end Phillips screwdriver?
That’s all possible, but at that point…why not put the Lite module in? The tool, say the Phillips, could be essentially turned into a battery compartment door by grinding a lot if it away, but I don’t really like taking away the main function of the tool. :dunno:
I prefer hiding things as much as possible or practical. I already see the added micro switch as a necessary evil without the lite module.
Wouldn’t be a ‘problem’ to put a big battery even like like a 123 size, but the compartment required wouldn’t look like knife or tool parts at all. There are some vertical drop-in style battery holders, which could work with button type batteries, but not really interested in doing anything that way. But could be an option for anyone willing to delete tools to add batteries which are visible, but safely secured.
Post by: kamakiri on January 07, 2022, 06:01:50 PM
Wouldn’t be a ‘problem’ to put a big battery even like like a 123 size, but the compartment required wouldn’t look like knife or tool parts at all.
Now I think I have one more project to put in the queue. ‘Only’ as wide as about 5 mag/Phillips layers!
:facepalm: :facepalm: :facepalm:
Well, at least I know where some of all these spare parts I’m generating will go toward. :rofl:
Post by: kamakiri on January 07, 2022, 11:14:19 PM
Minutes after I got the mail I made some test pieces and put one on the knife I’m working on for my sister.
Pleased with the results so far. Pic is of the testing with a couple of patterns and spacing variations.
More details in the mod forum thread here:
https://forum.multitool.org/index.php/topic,87044.msg2309412.html#msg2309412
Post by: kamakiri on January 07, 2022, 11:23:17 PM
Also better, IMO. Faster and smoother cut.
Post by: GrouchoM on January 08, 2022, 01:56:14 AM
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Post by: kamakiri on January 08, 2022, 10:23:42 PM
Cut my fingernails today and the performance of the file is great. No need to switch from a coarse to fine file. This profile cut quickly and smoothly. Way better than any single file I’ve used before. Crazy.
EDIT:
Just put it to a real test of smoothness. Dragged the bails on the back of an old necktie…no catching from the nails…can’t say the same from the machinist fingers.
Post by: kamakiri on January 30, 2022, 01:04:38 AM
Post by: Rizio Il Ghiro on January 30, 2022, 11:33:32 AM
Post by: kamakiri on February 03, 2022, 06:51:44 AM
Great work, Kamakiri! :like: :like:
:cheers: Thanks, Rizio! :)
Tore these two down at 2:22 since it’s 2/2/22.
No knives were harmed in the process. No drill bits used. ;) :D
Did the two in tandem so I had to label the piles so I wouldn’t mix the parts. Forgot to grab paper towels from the house. Padded envelopes don’t really keep rolling parts on them real well. Oops.
‘98 Explorer and c.’01 CT29
Post by: GrouchoM on February 03, 2022, 07:04:00 AM
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Post by: kamakiri on February 03, 2022, 03:28:19 PM
Getting the right era or specific year parts is one of the big reasons I can ID the production year of many knives while just looking at smurfy auction pics and reviewing them on a phone.
Gray mags layers alone have at least 3 main variants. More, if the adjacent liner and brass spacer/collar and misc. gray bezel types…way more.
Post by: Ritornello on February 03, 2022, 05:38:45 PM
I hope this works! Here are the pics. It looks like it just needs a new bail fitted on, the contact points are still there. Let me know if this looks doable.
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Post by: kamakiri on February 04, 2022, 02:22:04 AM
Hey Kama,
I hope this works! Here are the pics. It looks like it just needs a new bail fitted on, the contact points are still there. Let me know if this looks doable.
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Hey Rit,
Pics are perfect and just what I needed to see. :tu:
It’s absolutely doable. Pin looks good enough to reuse. I was just working on my no-drill rivet removal on an early ‘60s Huntsman LNF in need of some repairs. So getting the broken bail end off won’t be a problem at all, whichever way. That’s the good news.
The not so good news is that I’m planning on making tooling to fabricate shackle ends faster. That project has been on the back burner for a while and I’d like to get that done before I make another. At least that was my plan.
I’ll PM you later about some of the timing details and some other thoughts.
Happy that the no-drill rivet removal worked here with the focus on not removing/cutting the nickel silver material (much) to get it to release.
:woohoo:
Post by: Ritornello on February 05, 2022, 08:02:44 PM
Hey Rit,
Pics are perfect and just what I needed to see. :tu:
It’s absolutely doable. Pin looks good enough to reuse. I was just working on my no-drill rivet removal on an early ‘60s Huntsman LNF in need of some repairs. So getting the broken bail end off won’t be a problem at all, whichever way. That’s the good news.
The not so good news is that I’m planning on making tooling to fabricate shackle ends faster. That project has been on the back burner for a while and I’d like to get that done before I make another. At least that was my plan.
I’ll PM you later about some of the timing details and some other thoughts.
Happy that the no-drill rivet removal worked here with the focus on not removing/cutting the nickel silver material (much) to get it to release.
:woohoo:
Sounds great Kama! Looking forward to hearing from you. Whatever you decide to do, don't feel pressured. I'm very curious about that shackle fabricator, seems like you're a regular MacGyver.
Post by: kamakiri on February 06, 2022, 05:43:09 AM
Sounds great Kama! Looking forward to hearing from you. Whatever you decide to do, don't feel pressured. I'm very curious about that shackle fabricator, seems like you're a regular MacGyver.
Thanks for that, but any pressure is pre-existing and internally generated! I’ve been meaning to set things up for a while to do projects like this. I should thank you for giving me one more reason to move things along faster. Shipping/receiving…websites…payments…terms and conditions…so many moving parts! And that’s the stuff that has nothing to do with the actual work! So far, I’ve only tended toward projects that I find or furnish all the parts so the ‘sale’ only occurs after the work is completed and ready to ship. I've been contacted occasionally about doing service, repair, and mod work, but so far I’ve only been able to respond ‘no’ or ‘not yet’…
Anyway, checked off some items in the to-do list today regarding such logistics. I’ll have to owe you that PM for now.
Post by: Ritornello on February 07, 2022, 04:43:41 AM
Thanks for that, but any pressure is pre-existing and internally generated! I’ve been meaning to set things up for a while to do projects like this. I should thank you for giving me one more reason to move things along faster. Shipping/receiving…websites…payments…terms and conditions…so many moving parts! And that’s the stuff that has nothing to do with the actual work! So far, I’ve only tended toward projects that I find or furnish all the parts so the ‘sale’ only occurs after the work is completed and ready to ship. I've been contacted occasionally about doing service, repair, and mod work, but so far I’ve only been able to respond ‘no’ or ‘not yet’…
Anyway, checked off some items in the to-do list today regarding such logistics. I’ll have to owe you that PM for now.
Alrighty Kama, I do hope you can get all that going sometime soon! Looking forward to it!
Post by: kamakiri on February 08, 2022, 06:06:40 AM
Alrighty Kama, I do hope you can get all that going sometime soon! Looking forward to it!
:cheers:
Work on the tooling started today and is progressing quickly! Testing with other material was promising on the prototype/beta tooling and work has started on the permanent stuff. That’s today's good news.
The not so good…I came up with a better idea for the tooling. So I need to figure out the materials and blanks I gotta order. At least that won’t slow the progress with the existing tool setup.
Proof of concept/process on left, OEM on right.
Post by: Ritornello on February 09, 2022, 05:26:11 AM
:cheers:
Work on the tooling started today and is progressing quickly! Testing with other material was promising on the prototype/beta tooling and work has started on the permanent stuff. That’s today's good news.
The not so good…I came up with a better idea for the tooling. So I need to figure out the materials and blanks I gotta order. At least that won’t slow the progress with the existing tool setup.
Proof of concept/process on left, OEM on right.
Really glad to hear that things are moving along nicely! The PoC looks great and if the only bad news is that you have a superior method to fabricate shackles I'd say you're doing just fine.
Post by: kamakiri on February 15, 2022, 06:10:35 AM
Really glad to hear that things are moving along nicely! The PoC looks great and if the only bad news is that you have a superior method to fabricate shackles I'd say you're doing just fine.
Also had to wait for more nickel silver to show up…and that finally did today! So the tooling was ‘finished’ about as far as I could take it without further testing a week ago. And I really wanted to get this process tested with the ‘correct’ 2mm diameter, instead of larger diameter rods that would need to be thinned after the ends were both forged. I dislike that extra work step.
About an hour after the wire was here and unpackaged, I had the first nickel silver prototype forged. Taking what I learned I got the second one done in under 24 minutes. Happy about that, but I want to get that to under 10 mins from the time I measure and clip the wire.
Trimmed up the second one after dinner. Not perfect, but just about ready to be installed in a 2-layer 91mm. First one is sized for a 3-layer with a saw…I think I’m going to keep it as is, being the first one that I forged with this tooling.
That’s it for today, but I gotta spend some time thinking about any adjustments I should make to either the process or the tooling.
Post by: mattbod on February 16, 2022, 04:33:04 AM
Post by: kamakiri on February 16, 2022, 04:13:01 PM
Welcome and great work. I hope you have all your inoculations though...the sh*t on some of those knives made me want to hurl.
:cheers:
Lol. I probably should document what comes out of all the really gross ones. The real surprises come from pretty well maintained vintage ones…oiled, not over-sharpened…pretty nice…until the scales get popped off. Then you know what they used the knife for. Ugh. :P
Post by: Ritornello on February 20, 2022, 07:33:09 AM
Also had to wait for more nickel silver to show up…and that finally did today! So the tooling was ‘finished’ about as far as I could take it without further testing a week ago. And I really wanted to get this process tested with the ‘correct’ 2mm diameter, instead of larger diameter rods that would need to be thinned after the ends were both forged. I dislike that extra work step.
About an hour after the wire was here and unpackaged, I had the first nickel silver prototype forged. Taking what I learned I got the second one done in under 24 minutes. Happy about that, but I want to get that to under 10 mins from the time I measure and clip the wire.
Trimmed up the second one after dinner. Not perfect, but just about ready to be installed in a 2-layer 91mm. First one is sized for a 3-layer with a saw…I think I’m going to keep it as is, being the first one that I forged with this tooling.
That’s it for today, but I gotta spend some time thinking about any adjustments I should make to either the process or the tooling.
Very fascinating stuff! Do keep the updates coming.
Post by: kamakiri on February 21, 2022, 03:29:23 AM
Very fascinating stuff! Do keep the updates coming.
:cheers: Thanks, Rit. More equipment inbound in the next few days…so hopefully more to report and higher QC output soon.
Post by: kamakiri on February 27, 2022, 12:46:08 AM
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Progress on the bail/shackle fabrication. Slight improvement on the initial forging. Waiting for some different material from a different supplier…unfortunately gonna be a bit of a wait.
(https://img1.wsimg.com/isteam/ip/5c0b3c68-ec35-433d-a027-d53c3601aca1/98F6356B-734A-4F30-AF84-B85780D87063.jpeg/:/rt=d:270/cr=t:0%25,l:16.61%25,w:62.5%25,h:100%25/rs=w:1280)
Post by: Ritornello on March 02, 2022, 04:10:47 AM
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Progress on the bail/shackle fabrication. Slight improvement on the initial forging. Waiting for some different material from a different supplier…unfortunately gonna be a bit of a wait.
(https://img1.wsimg.com/isteam/ip/5c0b3c68-ec35-433d-a027-d53c3601aca1/98F6356B-734A-4F30-AF84-B85780D87063.jpeg/:/rt=d:270/cr=t:0%25,l:16.61%25,w:62.5%25,h:100%25/rs=w:1280)
Looking good Kama! I'm really appreciating the regular updates. What's the material? Some kind of nickel silver?
Post by: kamakiri on March 02, 2022, 07:16:21 AM
Post by: Ritornello on March 04, 2022, 10:05:40 PM
Yes, it is. I’m just hoping to I have any progress on this front sooner than later as I’ve bumped some other projects ahead of the bail and shackle work.
You and me both Kama lol. I'm pretty thrilled with what I've seen thus far.
Post by: kamakiri on March 04, 2022, 10:21:40 PM
You and me both Kama lol. I'm pretty thrilled with what I've seen thus far.
:cheers:
So am I, but if I can’t get to the point where the final products are both better and faster than my older process using mostly files, I’d have to abandon this work or at least set it aside somewhat and move forward with perhaps casting. …Which I’m familiar with and could use the existing tooling to help with things like the wax positives or maybe touch-ups or specific reforming for certain era reproductions. But I really don’t want to go that way.
…
Unrelated, but I finally got some titanium scales to use for test fitting. I’ve been liking using alox and screws for similar 84mm test fitting…I figured these would make sense for 91mm mods.
Also got some titanium sheet for liners. Gonna find out the hard way how to cut these by hand.
Checking a nickel silver spacer mod for fit in the titanium test scales:
Post by: GrouchoM on March 05, 2022, 02:08:40 AM
:cheers:
So am I, but if I can’t get to the point where the final products are both better and faster than my older process using mostly files, I’d have to abandon this work or at least set it aside somewhat and move forward with perhaps casting. …Which I’m familiar with and could use the existing tooling to help with things like the wax positives or maybe touch-ups or specific reforming for certain era reproductions. But I really don’t want to go that way.
…
Unrelated, but I finally got some titanium scales to use for test fitting. I’ve been liking using alox and screws for similar 84mm test fitting…I figured these would make sense for 91mm mods.
Also got some titanium sheet for liners. Gonna find out the hard way how to cut these by hand.
Checking a nickel silver spacer mod for fit in the titanium test scales:
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Post by: Ritornello on March 05, 2022, 07:04:19 AM
:cheers:
So am I, but if I can’t get to the point where the final products are both better and faster than my older process using mostly files, I’d have to abandon this work or at least set it aside somewhat and move forward with perhaps casting. …Which I’m familiar with and could use the existing tooling to help with things like the wax positives or maybe touch-ups or specific reforming for certain era reproductions. But I really don’t want to go that way.
…
Unrelated, but I finally got some titanium scales to use for test fitting. I’ve been liking using alox and screws for similar 84mm test fitting…I figured these would make sense for 91mm mods.
Also got some titanium sheet for liners. Gonna find out the hard way how to cut these by hand.
Checking a nickel silver spacer mod for fit in the titanium test scales:
Well I do hope the method you're experimenting with ends up working out. I wish I was that handy and could give you some input but unfortunately I'm simply not. Are the liners for your own builds, repairs, or both?
Post by: kamakiri on March 06, 2022, 06:21:52 AM
Well I do hope the method you're experimenting with ends up working out. I wish I was that handy and could give you some input but unfortunately I'm simply not. Are the liners for your own builds, repairs, or both?
I didn’t have a specific use in mind. I think the uses would depend on how well and how fast I can do it…consistently. I suppose I’m more interested in the process and making a project of it first.
Post by: Ritornello on May 26, 2022, 03:50:55 AM
I didn’t have a specific use in mind. I think the uses would depend on how well and how fast I can do it…consistently. I suppose I’m more interested in the process and making a project of it first.
Hey Kama,
Been a little while. I hope you and yours are okay. Just checking in on the bail project. Any updates?
Rit