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Title: How many layers does a Compact have?
Post by: Fisting_Chili on March 01, 2010, 09:32:37 PM
Also, which model has that phillips screwdriver you can slide a piece of paper through?  Lastly, which 2 layer Victorinox has some weird scraper tool next to the big blade?  looks kinda of like a straight razor but with a wavy edge?
Thanks
Title: Re: How many layers does a Compact have?
Post by: jazzbass on March 01, 2010, 09:42:45 PM
Also, which model has that phillips screwdriver you can slide a piece of paper through?  Lastly, which 2 layer Victorinox has some weird scraper tool next to the big blade?  looks kinda of like a straight razor but with a wavy edge?
Thanks


Answers in order:

1. Compact has two layers
2. Lots. Any model with a phillips from c. 1974 to c. 1991. They were squared off until c. 1981, then round.
3. Need pics. Sounds like a pruning blade.
Title: Re: How many layers does a Compact have?
Post by: Mike, Lord of the Spammers! on March 01, 2010, 09:43:12 PM
The compact's has just got the two layers :)

And the scrapper thingy I think your talking about is from the Electrician mate :)
Title: Re: How many layers does a Compact have?
Post by: Fisting_Chili on March 01, 2010, 10:02:06 PM
The compact's has just got the two layers :)

And the scrapper thingy I think your talking about is from the Electrician mate :)

Not an electrician...at least not the pics I googled.  SAKwiki is not coming up for me...argh!!  The scraper thing i looks like  along blade when closed, but when you pull it out, it has this thing on the end, about 1/4-1/2" long that looks like a mini serrated edged cleaver....LOL.  sorry...camera is charging.
Title: Re: How many layers does a Compact have?
Post by: Fisting_Chili on March 01, 2010, 10:05:02 PM
Also, which model has that phillips screwdriver you can slide a piece of paper through?  Lastly, which 2 layer Victorinox has some weird scraper tool next to the big blade?  looks kinda of like a straight razor but with a wavy edge?
Thanks


Answers in order:

1. Compact has two layers
2. Lots. Any model with a phillips from c. 1974 to c. 1991. They were squared off until c. 1981, then round.
3. Need pics. Sounds like a pruning blade.

Not a pruning blade either.  blade part is only about 1/4/ to 1/2" tip of the tool that pulls out though full length is about 1 1/2" long.  camera is charging, sorry!

As for the philips, I thought only a few models had the split philips where you could slide a piece of paper between the tip?  Thought I saw a thread recently where somebody got one and posted pics of his phillips head picking up a piece of paper?
Title: Re: How many layers does a Compact have?
Post by: Mike, Lord of the Spammers! on March 01, 2010, 10:06:46 PM
Can you post a link to it mate?
Title: Re: How many layers does a Compact have?
Post by: Fisting_Chili on March 01, 2010, 10:07:52 PM
Can you post a link to it mate?

Hehe, not really...its in my hand.  LOL!
Camera died or I'd upload a pic.
Title: Re: How many layers does a Compact have?
Post by: thebullfrog on March 01, 2010, 10:09:12 PM
Sounds like the orange peeler to me
Title: Re: How many layers does a Compact have?
Post by: Fisting_Chili on March 01, 2010, 10:11:49 PM
Sounds like the orange peeler to me

bullseye!   Thank you!  Here is a link to what it looks like...sorry my descriptions sucked so bad...
http://www.smartknives.com/Swiss-Army-Knife-Tools/Victorinox-Peeler-Exec.htm
Title: Re: How many layers does a Compact have?
Post by: Fisting_Chili on March 01, 2010, 10:13:48 PM
Ok, got it...it is the Executive
(http://www.swissarmy.com/images/ProductCatalog/vm/vm_53401_sol_a02.jpg)
Title: Re: How many layers does a Compact have?
Post by: thebullfrog on March 01, 2010, 10:14:31 PM
Sounds like the orange peeler to me

bullseye!   Thank you!  Here is a link to what it looks like...sorry my descriptions sucked so bad...
http://www.smartknives.com/Swiss-Army-Knife-Tools/Victorinox-Peeler-Exec.htm

I put up a post about that very same implement when I saw Macgyver use it in an episode, so I know how hard it is to describe lol.
Title: Re: How many layers does a Compact have?
Post by: Fisting_Chili on March 01, 2010, 10:15:30 PM
Sounds like the orange peeler to me

bullseye!   Thank you!  Here is a link to what it looks like...sorry my descriptions sucked so bad...
http://www.smartknives.com/Swiss-Army-Knife-Tools/Victorinox-Peeler-Exec.htm

I put up a post about that very same implement when I saw Macgyver use it in an episode, so I know how hard it is to describe lol.

Fricken Macgyver...figures he'd find a way to use it!  Thanks again
Title: Re: How many layers does a Compact have?
Post by: jazzbass on March 01, 2010, 10:15:53 PM
As for the philips, I thought only a few models had the split philips where you could slide a piece of paper between the tip?  Thought I saw a thread recently where somebody got one and posted pics of his phillips head picking up a piece of paper?

It's not a model thing, it's a time period thing. ALL backspring phillips from Victorinox has the split phillips head from 1974 until 1991. I have Champions, Hikers, SuperTinkers, Saleman, Tinkers, Fishermen, Craftsmen and Master Craftsmen all with the split phillips.

One day you're going to learn to trust me on these things  :cheers:
Title: Re: How many layers does a Compact have?
Post by: thebullfrog on March 01, 2010, 10:17:42 PM
Split Phillips? I have never heard of such a thing. Any pics? Sounds interesting
Title: Re: How many layers does a Compact have?
Post by: Fisting_Chili on March 01, 2010, 10:19:54 PM
As for the philips, I thought only a few models had the split philips where you could slide a piece of paper between the tip?  Thought I saw a thread recently where somebody got one and posted pics of his phillips head picking up a piece of paper?

It's not a model thing, it's a time period thing. ALL backspring phillips from Victorinox has the split phillips head from 1974 until 1991. I have Champions, Hikers, SuperTinkers, Saleman, Tinkers, Fishermen, Craftsmen and Master Craftsmen all with the split phillips.

One day you're going to learn to trust me on these things  :cheers:

Hahaha, just slap me now.  Sorry buddy
Title: Re: How many layers does a Compact have?
Post by: Fisting_Chili on March 01, 2010, 10:24:24 PM
Split Phillips? I have never heard of such a thing. Any pics? Sounds interesting

Here you go...camera charged enough juice for this
(http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb160/mnky09/Knives%20and%20multitools/SDC12447.jpg)
(http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb160/mnky09/Knives%20and%20multitools/SDC12448.jpg)
Title: Re: How many layers does a Compact have?
Post by: thebullfrog on March 01, 2010, 10:29:49 PM
Huh. That's pretty cool. Anyone know why they made 'em this way? I can't see any real reason to have it designed like that.
Title: Re: How many layers does a Compact have?
Post by: Fisting_Chili on March 01, 2010, 10:30:15 PM
How about a blade like this on a Wenger?
(http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb160/mnky09/Knives%20and%20multitools/SDC12452.jpg)
(http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb160/mnky09/Knives%20and%20multitools/SDC12452.jpg)

Finding all kinds of unusual ones looking for parts for a couple people here
Title: Re: How many layers does a Compact have?
Post by: stressmaster5000 on March 01, 2010, 10:31:00 PM
That's an old style can opener on those Wengers.

What you should be doing is open up the "Tools" link on the SAKWicki,http://www.sakwiki.com/tiki-index.php?page=Tool+List (http://www.sakwiki.com/tiki-index.php?page=Tool+List)

There are 2 tool description tables right there for both Manufacturers although they do not include everything.

Also click on the "Knife Blades" link http://www.sakwiki.com/tiki-index.php?page=Knife+Blade (http://www.sakwiki.com/tiki-index.php?page=Knife+Blade)
to see different photos of various blades of the Victorinox side. The Wenger side has no photos at all.

Another thing is to click on the various Tool Image Galeries from the "Tools" link. There are different galleries for each different size and manufacturer of knife.
Title: Re: How many layers does a Compact have?
Post by: jazzbass on March 01, 2010, 10:32:47 PM
Huh. That's pretty cool. Anyone know why they made 'em this way? I can't see any real reason to have it designed like that.

It's called the "can-key". It was designed to open tin canned food like SPAM.
Title: Re: How many layers does a Compact have?
Post by: jazzbass on March 01, 2010, 10:34:43 PM
As for the philips, I thought only a few models had the split philips where you could slide a piece of paper between the tip?  Thought I saw a thread recently where somebody got one and posted pics of his phillips head picking up a piece of paper?

It's not a model thing, it's a time period thing. ALL backspring phillips from Victorinox has the split phillips head from 1974 until 1991. I have Champions, Hikers, SuperTinkers, Saleman, Tinkers, Fishermen, Craftsmen and Master Craftsmen all with the split phillips.

One day you're going to learn to trust me on these things  :cheers:

Hahaha, just slap me now.  Sorry buddy

No worries. Looks like a Tinker or Tinker Small from 82-85 (if the awl is solid) or 86-90 (if the awl has a hole in it).
Title: Re: How many layers does a Compact have?
Post by: Swiss Man on March 01, 2010, 10:35:08 PM
Huh. That's pretty cool. Anyone know why they made 'em this way? I can't see any real reason to have it designed like that.

It is a "can key"  I remember ( shows how old I am) that some food can came with a little key attached to the bottom.

Pulled the key off slip it into the little metal tap and twist off the seal letting you open the can.

I will try to find a pic. somewhere. :cheers:
Title: Re: How many layers does a Compact have?
Post by: thebullfrog on March 01, 2010, 10:36:29 PM
Ah! That actually makes a lot of sense  :tu:
Title: Re: How many layers does a Compact have?
Post by: thebullfrog on March 01, 2010, 10:37:20 PM
Huh. That's pretty cool. Anyone know why they made 'em this way? I can't see any real reason to have it designed like that.

It is a "can key"  I remember ( shows how old I am) that some food can came with a little key attached to the bottom.

Pulled the key off slip it into the little metal tap and twist off the seal letting you open the can.

I will try to find a pic. somewhere. :cheers:

Nah I get it. I know exactly what you're talking about.
Title: Re: How many layers does a Compact have?
Post by: stressmaster5000 on March 01, 2010, 10:41:14 PM
Here are some pics of the can key in action.....................
(http://i220.photobucket.com/albums/dd39/stressmaster5000/Misc/Meatcanopener-02.jpg)
(http://i220.photobucket.com/albums/dd39/stressmaster5000/Misc/Meatcanopener-03.jpg)
(http://i220.photobucket.com/albums/dd39/stressmaster5000/Misc/Meatcanopener-04.jpg)
(http://i220.photobucket.com/albums/dd39/stressmaster5000/Misc/Meatcanopener-06.jpg)
Title: Re: How many layers does a Compact have?
Post by: Fisting_Chili on March 01, 2010, 10:41:32 PM
That's an old style can opener on those Wengers.

What you should be doing is open up the "Tools" link on the SAKWicki,http://www.sakwiki.com/tiki-index.php?page=Tool+List (http://www.sakwiki.com/tiki-index.php?page=Tool+List)

There are 2 tool description tables right there for both Manufacturers although they do not include everything.

Also click on the "Knife Blades" link http://www.sakwiki.com/tiki-index.php?page=Knife+Blade (http://www.sakwiki.com/tiki-index.php?page=Knife+Blade)
to see different photos of various blades of the Victorinox side. The Wenger side has no photos at all.

Another thing is to click on the various Tool Image Galeries from the "Tools" link. There are different galleries for each different size and manufacturer of knife.

Is SAKwiki coming up for you?  it is not for me...says problem loading page.  I tried there first, but thanks...once i can pull it up, those links will be very handy!
Title: Re: How many layers does a Compact have?
Post by: Fisting_Chili on March 01, 2010, 10:42:19 PM
Huh. That's pretty cool. Anyone know why they made 'em this way? I can't see any real reason to have it designed like that.

It's called the "can-key". It was designed to open tin canned food like SPAM.

SWEET!  I'm Hawaiian....we LOVE Spam!  :D
Title: Re: How many layers does a Compact have?
Post by: thebullfrog on March 01, 2010, 10:49:27 PM
That's actually really cool. Obviously next to useless these days, last time I saw a can like that I was like 12, but very cool. Gotta love some of the stuff Vic comes up with.

How much did having that split in there weaken the driver though? Seems like I could see that being able to twist/bend at the end pretty easy if you torqued on it too hard.
Title: Re: How many layers does a Compact have?
Post by: Gareth on March 02, 2010, 01:07:00 AM
Hey, we still get cans like that, and I can personally attest to the fact the 'can key' works very well. :D
Title: Re: How many layers does a Compact have?
Post by: thebullfrog on March 02, 2010, 01:09:29 AM
Yeah but see, Americans are fat lazy smurfs and we can't stand for our cans of fake preservative laden food taking time and effort to open lol.
Title: Re: How many layers does a Compact have?
Post by: Gareth on March 02, 2010, 01:13:50 AM
Yeah but see, Americans are fat lazy smurfs and we can't stand for our cans of fake preservative laden food taking time and effort to open lol.

LOL.

Or the British are just 10 years behind when it comes to corned beef technology.  :D
Title: Re: How many layers does a Compact have?
Post by: thebullfrog on March 02, 2010, 01:43:02 AM
Or that.
Title: Re: How many layers does a Compact have?
Post by: Fisting_Chili on March 02, 2010, 01:48:43 AM
Yeah but see, Americans are fat lazy smurfs and we can't stand for our cans of fake preservative laden food taking time and effort to open lol.
I'm not fat!

(I am a lazy smurf though...)
Title: Re: How many layers does a Compact have?
Post by: Fisting_Chili on March 02, 2010, 01:50:45 AM
Huh. That's pretty cool. Anyone know why they made 'em this way? I can't see any real reason to have it designed like that.

It's called the "can-key". It was designed to open tin canned food like SPAM.

SWEET!  I'm Hawaiian....we LOVE Spam!  :D

Oh and another thing...when the Mrs and I drove from Oregon to Boston for a Red Sox game, we stopped at the Hormel Spam Museum in Minnesota!!  I asked, "Is this heaven?" and they said, "No, its Minnesota."
Title: Re: How many layers does a Compact have?
Post by: thebullfrog on March 02, 2010, 02:46:29 AM
There's a Spam museum? Why does that not surprise me? I told you fat lazy Americans loved their fake preservative laden food lol. I personally can't stand the stuff though, I'll never eat spam again unless the bombs fall and there is nothing else to eat.

And totally out of nowhere Field of Dreams reference FTW
Title: Re: How many layers does a Compact have?
Post by: yud on March 02, 2010, 02:54:51 AM
There's a Spam museum? Why does that not surprise me? I told you fat lazy Americans loved their fake preservative laden food lol. I personally can't stand the stuff though, I'll never eat spam again unless the bombs fall and there is nothing else to eat.

And totally out of nowhere Field of Dreams reference FTW
I hate it too  :spamkiller:

there also spam fests  ;)
Title: Re: How many layers does a Compact have?
Post by: jzmtl on March 02, 2010, 03:02:04 AM
I have two cans of spam right now that use can key, they come with their own thou attached to the bottom.
Title: Re: How many layers does a Compact have?
Post by: Fisting_Chili on March 02, 2010, 03:21:31 AM
There's a Spam museum? Why does that not surprise me? I told you fat lazy Americans loved their fake preservative laden food lol. I personally can't stand the stuff though, I'll never eat spam again unless the bombs fall and there is nothing else to eat.

And totally out of nowhere Field of Dreams reference FTW
 

Funny you mention Field of Dreams....

Same trip, we stopped in Dyersville, IA where they movie was filmed and the house sits for real.  Baseball field  and corn field are still there.  I set the vid cam on the bleachers that Costners glut touched and filmed the mrs and I tossin the ball around on the field!
Title: Re: How many layers does a Compact have?
Post by: thebullfrog on March 02, 2010, 03:25:28 AM
Yep, I've been there too. Have family that lives close to Dyersville. It was nifty in a way, but really not much to it.