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Title: Only in a Jeep.....
Post by: Boonies on November 19, 2018, 09:45:31 PM
I’ve been driving a Jeep for 35 years now, not the same one of course.  1st a 1980 CJ-5, then a 99 downsize Cherokee (keeping the CJ-5 for the hardcore stuff), then a 2003 Tombraider Rubicon (stolen right out of the parking lot at work in the middle of the day) and currently a 2006 Rubicon Unlimited.  Can’t seem to be without one.

I have a Jeep knife and machete, Chinese made, (for hacking thru the deep, dark jungle here in Arizona) but I always wanted a Jeep branded Swiss Army knife but unable to find one......until now.  Forest Green Recruit.....liking this one.  Anybody else do the Jeep thing or have a Jeep SAK?       :cheers:
Title: Re: Only in a Jeep.....
Post by: VICMAN on November 19, 2018, 10:42:05 PM


I have a Jeep knife and machete, Chinese made, (for hacking thru the deep, dark jungle here in Arizona) but I always wanted a Jeep branded Swiss Army knife but unable to find one......until now.  Forest Green Recruit.....liking this one.  Anybody else do the Jeep thing or have a Jeep SAK?       :cheers:

Cool SAK Boonies! :like: :tu: :tu:
Title: Re: Only in a Jeep.....
Post by: Rapidray on November 19, 2018, 10:49:25 PM
No Jeep SAK...but I am seriously looking at the Jeep ‘Gladiator’ when it comes out! Can’t wait to see it.
Title: Re: Only in a Jeep.....
Post by: NutSAK on November 19, 2018, 11:05:15 PM
Cool knife.  it would be nice to find more of an "outdoors" model like a Camper, Huntsman or Ranger, but I guess you gotta take what you can get!!

No Jeep knives here, but I do the Jeep thing.  This is the only Jeep I've owned--it's been all Broncos until this XJ 10 years ago or so.  I still have my '67 Bronco.

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4651/38811134235_599dde035a_k.jpg)
Title: Re: Only in a Jeep.....
Post by: Boonies on November 19, 2018, 11:27:13 PM
Love those early Broncos.......if I couldn’t have a Jeep, that would be the one.

This was my baby for a long time......sold it to a friend for his son but it ended up getting a cracked fuel line and burned up........😢.

Couldn’t be picky about the Jeep branded SAK, only one I have been able to find.
Title: Re: Only in a Jeep.....
Post by: Rapidray on November 19, 2018, 11:40:13 PM
Love those early Broncos.......if I couldn’t have a Jeep, that would be the one.

This was my baby for a long time......sold it to a friend for his son but it ended up getting a cracked fuel line and burned up........😢.

Couldn’t be picky about the Jeep branded SAK, only one I have been able to find.
Burnt up... :dwts:
Yes on the early Bronco’s...friend of mine wants one bad to restore it.
Title: Re: Only in a Jeep.....
Post by: NutSAK on November 19, 2018, 11:52:29 PM
Nice one Boonies.  Great pic!  Sorry to hear about the demise of the CJ-5...

Here's my Bronco:

(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1853/43735497844_859150639f_k.jpg)

(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1848/43543800265_99d5883936_k.jpg)
Title: Re: Only in a Jeep.....
Post by: Rapidray on November 20, 2018, 12:00:22 AM
Nice one Boonies.  Great pic!  Sorry to hear about the demise of the CJ-5...

Here's my Bronco:

(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1853/43735497844_859150639f_k.jpg)

(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1848/43543800265_99d5883936_k.jpg)
Yepper...that will do!
Title: Re: Only in a Jeep.....
Post by: Barry Rowland on November 20, 2018, 04:44:44 AM
That is a real beauty!  There was a first generation Bronco rally here last summer..  I hadn't seen that many together in decades!  You sporting the 289 in that beauty?
Title: Re: Only in a Jeep.....
Post by: ToolJoe on November 20, 2018, 05:26:37 AM
Nice looking Bronco! I'm curious to see how the new ones will look in person compared to the concept drawings..
Title: Re: Only in a Jeep.....
Post by: Boonies on November 20, 2018, 07:20:10 AM
Nice one Boonies.  Great pic!  Sorry to hear about the demise of the CJ-5...

Here's my Bronco:

(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1853/43735497844_859150639f_k.jpg)

(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1848/43543800265_99d5883936_k.jpg)

Nice Bronco, there was always a friendly competition between the Jeep drivers and Bronco drivers on a 4X4 run.

No tears for the CJ, they took the power train (axles, trannie and trasfer case) and put them under another CJ-5.  Locked front and back, full floating axles front and back, locking hubs on all 4 corners, granny low T-18 out of a Ford truck, 4.56:1 gears.....there is still part of my CJ out there going strong.  I’m just not driving it...... :rofl:
Title: Re: Only in a Jeep.....
Post by: Reinier on November 20, 2018, 08:48:16 AM
Nice SAK, nice Jeeps.
You don't really see them very often here in the Netherlands. Because of the gas prices, car and road taxes, narrow roads, tiny parking spaces and general fondness of small, underpowered econo-boxes :facepalm:
Title: Re: Only in a Jeep.....
Post by: NutSAK on November 20, 2018, 09:35:05 PM
That is a real beauty!  There was a first generation Bronco rally here last summer..  I hadn't seen that many together in decades!  You sporting the 289 in that beauty?

Thanks!  Yeah, it's a 289 w/3-spd Tremec converted from column shift to a Hurst floor shifter.  The drivetrain is all original except for a Unilite distributor.

Nice looking Bronco! I'm curious to see how the new ones will look in person compared to the concept drawings..

I'm not all too hopeful from what I've seen so far, unfortunately.
Title: Re: Only in a Jeep.....
Post by: Rapidray on November 20, 2018, 09:50:52 PM
I’m not going to hold my breath on any of them myself, untill I see them.
I was waiting for the ‘Cuda to come back out...nawww...didn’t happen.
Title: Re: Only in a Jeep.....
Post by: cody6268 on November 20, 2018, 11:34:59 PM
And ironically, the same color as my own pile of junk 1969 Kaiser Jeep CJ-5 (hasn't run in years, intended to have been used for parts by Dad, never was, got dumped on my grandparents property (his wife tried to turn it into a chicken house, which was part of the reason it ended up over here--that resulted in 2 hours of work for me dumping out the straw, and a few wasp stings), I claimed it, the gold digging mental case of a wife he married claims its his, my great-uncle's widow says she has the title, with my great-uncle's name on it, and can't find said title but will give it to me when found so let's just say that's a mess right now). It also has a Kelly Bonanza II cab on it--that's rare. I've only seen maybe 4? of them.  Now if only I can get my neighbor to sell his nearly identical CJ-5 (which has a solid rust and repair free body), I think I might have something nice here, especially with the cab and V-6 engine that are on the parts Jeep.

 You see a ton of Land Rover ones, but few Jeep ones. Given there's been several Chrysler related SAKs of the same vintage, I'm not surprised there is a Jeep one.

(https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5787/23187099545_839e315431_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/BjXWSn)Photo0262 (https://flic.kr/p/BjXWSn) by cody6268 (https://www.flickr.com/photos/91575614@N04/), on Flickr
Title: Re: Only in a Jeep.....
Post by: Grant Lamontagne on November 20, 2018, 11:43:49 PM
How about this Jeep SAK?

(http://gallery.multitool.org/var/resizes/Victorinox/D-Day-Hunter/103_4025.JPG?m=1329869501)

It matches at least one of my Jeeps....

(http://gallery.multitool.org/var/resizes/Defventures/Lac-La-Peche/May-22%2C-2017/LaPeche%20%281%29.jpg?m=1495543301)

This is my other one, although it doesn't look this nice anymore.   :facepalm:

(http://gallery.multitool.org/pbmirror/Personal/Cars/Jeep.jpg)

Def
Title: Re: Only in a Jeep.....
Post by: NutSAK on November 20, 2018, 11:56:06 PM
 :tu:

I want a TJ.

Nice knife Def.
Title: Re: Only in a Jeep.....
Post by: Grant Lamontagne on November 21, 2018, 01:32:58 AM
Thanks. I love my TJ but it's been sitting and rotting for a while now.  Since I am likely to have yo do some serious frame and body work on it anyway I am very tempted to get a Brute kit instead of restoring it as is.

I think that would be an awesome thing to do to it.

Def
Title: Re: Only in a Jeep.....
Post by: Boonies on November 21, 2018, 02:16:40 AM
How about this Jeep SAK?

(http://gallery.multitool.org/var/resizes/Victorinox/D-Day-Hunter/103_4025.JPG?m=1329869501)

It matches at least one of my Jeeps....

(http://gallery.multitool.org/var/resizes/Defventures/Lac-La-Peche/May-22%2C-2017/LaPeche%20%281%29.jpg?m=1495543301)

This is my other one, although it doesn't look this nice anymore.   :facepalm:

(http://gallery.multitool.org/pbmirror/Personal/Cars/Jeep.jpg)

Def

Love that SAK, I suspect that’s not an easy one to find...... :tu:

My CJ didn’t look as nice as it did originally either but it spent 20 years hard core 4-wheeling in the rocks, twice on parts of the Jeep other than the tires 😳. 1st time I just put it on its side, 2nd time over backwards and then 3 times side to side before coming to a rest upright.  Not a scratch on me, can’t say as much for the Jeep.  Few dent pulls and such and it continued on.

You need to restore your TJ and get it going, that’s a nice looking Jeep.   :cheers:
Title: Re: Only in a Jeep.....
Post by: Grant Lamontagne on November 21, 2018, 02:42:24 AM
This is pretty similar to what I have in mind:

(http://image.fourwheeler.com/f/9080423+w660+h440+re0+cr1+ar0/0710-4wd-01-z%2bjeep-wrangler-tj-aev-brute%2bright-side-view.jpg)

As for the knife, there were dozens of them on eBay when I got mine, although I couldn't honestly tell you where they came from, who did them, or whether any would be left or not.

Def
Title: Re: Only in a Jeep.....
Post by: Boonies on November 21, 2018, 02:50:54 AM
Oh yes, that would work......does it keep the same wheelbase or extend it?  Very nice, I vote go for it!!!!      :woohoo:
Title: Re: Only in a Jeep.....
Post by: Rapidray on November 21, 2018, 04:04:06 AM
How about this Jeep SAK?

(http://gallery.multitool.org/var/resizes/Victorinox/D-Day-Hunter/103_4025.JPG?m=1329869501)

It matches at least one of my Jeeps....

(http://gallery.multitool.org/var/resizes/Defventures/Lac-La-Peche/May-22%2C-2017/LaPeche%20%281%29.jpg?m=1495543301)

This is my other one, although it doesn't look this nice anymore.   :facepalm:

(http://gallery.multitool.org/pbmirror/Personal/Cars/Jeep.jpg)

Def
Nice SAK  :like: :tu: and the matching Jeep almost.
Title: Re: Only in a Jeep.....
Post by: Rapidray on November 21, 2018, 04:10:27 AM
This is pretty similar to what I have in mind:

(http://image.fourwheeler.com/f/9080423+w660+h440+re0+cr1+ar0/0710-4wd-01-z%2bjeep-wrangler-tj-aev-brute%2bright-side-view.jpg)

As for the knife, there were dozens of them on eBay when I got mine, although I couldn't honestly tell you where they came from, who did them, or whether any would be left or not.

Def
Like that TG! You got my vote on the go!
Title: Re: Only in a Jeep.....
Post by: Myron on November 21, 2018, 04:51:41 AM
Not a Jeep guy, but I've enjoyed life with this old Land Rover for the last 25 years. 

(https://i.imgur.com/6WmTaCD.jpg)

Title: Re: Only in a Jeep.....
Post by: Barry Rowland on November 21, 2018, 05:11:08 AM
I like that Land Rover!! :drool: :drool:
Title: Re: Only in a Jeep.....
Post by: Rapidray on November 21, 2018, 05:25:50 AM
Not a Jeep guy, but I've enjoyed life with this old Land Rover for the last 25 years. 

(https://i.imgur.com/6WmTaCD.jpg)
Is that like a 1966???
Title: Re: Only in a Jeep.....
Post by: Boonies on November 21, 2018, 07:29:16 AM
Not a Jeep guy, but I've enjoyed life with this old Land Rover for the last 25 years. 

(https://i.imgur.com/6WmTaCD.jpg)

Now that’s a classic, really like that one.  Bet it’s hard to get parts though.   :tu:
Title: Re: Only in a Jeep.....
Post by: Grant Lamontagne on November 21, 2018, 12:34:09 PM
Oh yes, that would work......does it keep the same wheelbase or extend it?  Very nice, I vote go for it!!!!      :woohoo:

It does indeed- some cutting and welding on the frame is needed, but since I will need frame work anyway, I might as well.  The other interesting factoid is that the LJ (longer wheelbase version of the TJ) with the 4.0L and 5 speed manual has a towing capacity of 3500lbs, while the standard version is limited to 2000 because of the extra length.  The LJ is 13 inches longer than a standard TJ, so my guess is that this kit would also increase the towing capacity to that as I think it extends the wheelbase about the same amount.

Of course, I am also thinking of a new engine as well, maybe a small block Chevy V8 since that seems to be the most common conversion, and that should give it more than enough power to haul 3500lbs comfortably.

Not a Jeep guy, but I've enjoyed life with this old Land Rover for the last 25 years. 

(https://i.imgur.com/6WmTaCD.jpg)



That is absolutely gorgeous, and the canoes are very sweet as well!  You should let us know more about them in the paddling thread (https://forum.multitool.org/index.php/topic,77988.0.html).   :D

Def
Title: Re: Only in a Jeep.....
Post by: Myron on November 21, 2018, 01:52:40 PM

That is absolutely gorgeous, and the canoes are very sweet as well!  You should let us know more about them in the paddling thread (https://forum.multitool.org/index.php/topic,77988.0.html).   :D

Def

Thanks Grant!  I didn't realize there was a paddling thread, so I will certainly check it out. 



Now that’s a classic, really like that one.  Bet it’s hard to get parts though.   :tu:

Actually not that bad.  There are several good parts houses in the US, mostly in the NE states.  You can always buy parts from the UK too.  What you can't do, however, is roll down to the neighborhood NAPA store and pick up this or that...  It just takes a little planning. 



Is that like a 1966???

Hey Ray.  It's a 1964 actually.  But like most old Land Rovers it has parts on it from a couple other Rovers.  When I took it off the road to restore it 10  years ago, I had a 1972 parts car that I cannibalized for some parts that were NLA new. 

 
I like that Land Rover!! :drool: :drool:

Thanks Barry!  It's a lot of fun, that's for sure.  That picture was taken several years ago on a paddling trip in northern Michigan.  Here's a more recent picture of it; I've been rolling with the roof off of it lately. 

(https://i.imgur.com/wl4gCv6.jpg)
Title: Re: Only in a Jeep.....
Post by: Rapidray on November 21, 2018, 02:15:35 PM


Is that like a 1966???

Hey Ray.  It's a 1964 actually.  But like most old Land Rovers it has parts on it from a couple other Rovers.  When I took it off the road to restore it 10  years ago, I had a 1972 parts car that I cannibalized for some parts that were NLA new. 
Nice - nothing wrong driving down the road with the top at home.  :like: :cheers:
Title: Re: Only in a Jeep.....
Post by: Smashie on November 21, 2018, 03:24:55 PM

That is absolutely gorgeous, and the canoes are very sweet as well!  You should let us know more about them in the paddling thread (https://forum.multitool.org/index.php/topic,77988.0.html).   :D

Def

Thanks Grant!  I didn't realize there was a paddling thread, so I will certainly check it out. 



Now that’s a classic, really like that one.  Bet it’s hard to get parts though.   :tu:

Actually not that bad.  There are several good parts houses in the US, mostly in the NE states.  You can always buy parts from the UK too.  What you can't do, however, is roll down to the neighborhood NAPA store and pick up this or that...  It just takes a little planning. 



Is that like a 1966???

Hey Ray.  It's a 1964 actually.  But like most old Land Rovers it has parts on it from a couple other Rovers.  When I took it off the road to restore it 10  years ago, I had a 1972 parts car that I cannibalized for some parts that were NLA new. 

 
I like that Land Rover!! :drool: :drool:

Thanks Barry!  It's a lot of fun, that's for sure.  That picture was taken several years ago on a paddling trip in northern Michigan.  Here's a more recent picture of it; I've been rolling with the roof off of it lately. 

(https://i.imgur.com/wl4gCv6.jpg)

Very nice indeed. Here's mine

(https://image.ibb.co/hy5S95/dog7.jpg)
Title: Re: Only in a Jeep.....
Post by: NutSAK on November 21, 2018, 03:39:57 PM
The other interesting factoid is that the LJ (longer wheelbase version of the TJ) with the 4.0L and 5 speed manual has a towing capacity of 3500lbs, while the standard version is limited to 2000 because of the extra length.  The LJ is 13 inches longer than a standard TJ, so my guess is that this kit would also increase the towing capacity to that as I think it extends the wheelbase about the same amount.

Interesting thing about the XJ...  With the towing package and AW4 automatic, it's rated to tow 5000(!!) pounds.  The XJ weighs ~3200lb, and I pull a 2700lb (dry) RV with mine, and I wouldn't go any heavier.  The 101" wheelbase is a bit limiting, as is the cooling capacity.  I've fitted about the largest transmission cooler I can.  WD hitch and electric brakes are a must.

I've often considered buying a JKU, but the wheelbase is 14" longer than my XJ and 24" longer than my Bronco, and just wouldn't work on the tight trails I tend to run.  The JL 4-door is another 2.4" longer!!  If I ever found an LJ for a reasonable price, I would jump on it immediately.

Nice Rovers all!!  :cheers:
Title: Re: Only in a Jeep.....
Post by: gene stoner on November 21, 2018, 03:49:31 PM
I'll post some pics of my 94 YJ this spring after I fix a few things.
Title: Re: Only in a Jeep.....
Post by: Grant Lamontagne on November 21, 2018, 04:05:39 PM
The other interesting factoid is that the LJ (longer wheelbase version of the TJ) with the 4.0L and 5 speed manual has a towing capacity of 3500lbs, while the standard version is limited to 2000 because of the extra length.  The LJ is 13 inches longer than a standard TJ, so my guess is that this kit would also increase the towing capacity to that as I think it extends the wheelbase about the same amount.

Interesting thing about the XJ...  With the towing package and AW4 automatic, it's rated to tow 5000(!!) pounds.  The XJ weighs ~3200lb, and I pull a 2700lb (dry) RV with mine, and I wouldn't go any heavier.  The 101" wheelbase is a bit limiting, as is the cooling capacity.  I've fitted about the largest transmission cooler I can.

I've often considered buying a JKU, but the wheelbase is 14" longer than my XJ and 24" longer than my Bronco, and just wouldn't work on the tight trails I tend to run.  The JL 4-door is another 2.4" longer!!  If I ever found an LJ for a reasonable price, I would jump on it immediately.

Nice Rovers all!!  :cheers:

I have a 3500lb towing capacity in my JKU because I made sure it had the heavier rear end, and, while I have towed a lot more than 3500lbs with it, (I hauled about 4500lbs a thousand miles a few years ago  :ahhh) I really don't like to max out a machine.  I feel like an overpowered machine running at 60% capacity will last a lot longer than one running at 90% to do the same job.  As it is, my JKU has more than enough power to haul that much, and, with a longer and wider wheelbase than an XJ I don't understand why I have a lower towing capacity- until I learned a dirty little secret.

Apparently in some places a JKU is rated at 6,000lbs towing, but not in NA because Chrysler didn't want to hurt sales of the Durango, Cherokee or Grand Cherokee.  It used to be that the Wranglers didn't encroach on those markets because Wranglers were rough and had no cargo space or options, but nowadays they are just as nice inside as anything else.  I have heated seats, heated power mirrors, auto darkening rear view mirror, power locks, power windows, remote start, a power invertor and other nice things not previously available in a Wrangler.  Chrysler had to keep those other models going somehow, so they limited the towing capacity.

TBH, if I was in charge of Chrysler, I think I would toss a bunch of other models and realize that the Wrangler is where my bread is buttered, and offer it in more configurations, like a Hemi version as well as the (supposedly) coming diesel and hybrid options.  A Hemi powered 4 door Wrangler should be able to pull 10,000lbs without much of a problem.  Any more than that and you really need to start thinking about a 5th wheel setup anyway.

Def
Title: Re: Only in a Jeep.....
Post by: NutSAK on November 21, 2018, 04:10:40 PM
I have a 3500lb towing capacity in my JKU because I made sure it had the heavier rear end, and, while I have towed a lot more than 3500lbs with it, (I hauled about 4500lbs a thousand miles a few years ago  :ahhh) I really don't like to max out a machine.  I feel like an overpowered machine running at 60% capacity will last a lot longer than one running at 90% to do the same job.  As it is, my JKU has more than enough power to haul that much, and, with a longer and wider wheelbase than an XJ I don't understand why I have a lower towing capacity- until I learned a dirty little secret.

Agreed.  The venerable 4.0L has no trouble pulling 3000#, especially with the very stout AW4 transmission.  Above that, it begins to struggle--especially when pulling a wall of an RV down the highway at 60+ MPH.

Apparently in some places a JKU is rated at 6,000lbs towing, but not in NA because Chrysler didn't want to hurt sales of the Durango, Cherokee or Grand Cherokee.  It used to be that the Wranglers didn't encroach on those markets because Wranglers were rough and had no cargo space or options, but nowadays they are just as nice inside as anything else.  I have heated seats, heated power mirrors, auto darkening rear view mirror, power locks, power windows, remote start, a power invertor and other nice things not previously available in a Wrangler.  Chrysler had to keep those other models going somehow, so they limited the towing capacity.

This goes on frequently nowadays.  I have a 2012 Ford Focus that is not rated for towing AT ALL in NA, but the same car is rated in Europe.  Ford certainly wouldn't want someone buying a Focus and hauling a utility trailer or ATVs, etc. when they can sell an SUV with a much higher profit margin to the same customer!!

It is a good thing they didn't though, because the manumatic transmission that most people opt for in a Focus is a POS.
Title: Re: Only in a Jeep.....
Post by: Boonies on November 22, 2018, 07:00:01 AM

Very nice indeed. Here's mine

(https://image.ibb.co/hy5S95/dog7.jpg)

Wow Smashie.....very, very nice indeed.  And you certainly know your winches....good choice.   :tu:
Title: Re: Only in a Jeep.....
Post by: Barry Rowland on November 22, 2018, 01:27:23 PM
Absolutely beautiful!!  Thanks for sharing!
Title: Re: Only in a Jeep.....
Post by: Barry Rowland on November 22, 2018, 01:28:01 PM
 :like:.
I'll post some pics of my 94 YJ this spring after I fix a few things.