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Title: What tools would you want to see that never were?
Post by: ironraven on August 10, 2011, 01:40:53 AM
So, this is inspired by two threads that are ongoing, and rather than highjack them I'll start a new one. Like the title says, what tool(s) do you wish had made it into SAKs, either Vics or those other guys.

My first would be a long eye glasses screwdriver that is the same size as the pen for the plus scales, so that I can have my glasses screwdriver and the backside philips. I have never used the corkscrew for it's intended purpose once. It could even be put on the inletted scale, and made shorter than the pen, I'd be ok with that. Actually, very OK with that, so I can keep the pen to!

The second would be a heavier, scissor-like wire-cutter/stripper that is as wide a the pliers that have a small plier bit at the tip, similiar to what you find on the LM E4 Squirt.

So, what would other people put on their wish list?
Title: Re: What tools would you want to see that never were?
Post by: Sazabi on August 10, 2011, 02:35:34 AM
Toothpick, tweezers, and pen for Alox Plus scales; I know a mod for it has been done, at least for the toothpick and tweezers.
Title: What tools would you want to see that never were?
Post by: tattoosteve99 on August 10, 2011, 02:46:32 AM
Toothpick, tweezers, and pen for Alox Plus scales; I know a mod for it has been done, at least for the toothpick and tweezers.
I would have to agree and second that.
Title: Re: What tools would you want to see that never were?
Post by: KiwiMark on August 10, 2011, 06:55:55 AM
So, this is inspired by two threads that are ongoing, and rather than highjack them I'll start a new one. Like the title says, what tool(s) do you wish had made it into SAKs, either Vics or those other guys.

My first would be a long eye glasses screwdriver that is the same size as the pen for the plus scales, so that I can have my glasses screwdriver and the backside philips. I have never used the corkscrew for it's intended purpose once. It could even be put on the inletted scale, and made shorter than the pen, I'd be ok with that. Actually, very OK with that, so I can keep the pen to!

You could always buy an Explorer Plus - that gives you the pen, pin, tweezers, toothpick and eyeglasses screwdriver.  You would not only have the Philips but it would be the good version that opens out of one end of the tool instead of in the middle.
Title: Re: What tools would you want to see that never were?
Post by: Tyler_ on August 10, 2011, 07:12:33 AM
A real wire cutter, bigger than the dinky one on the pliers
Title: Re: What tools would you want to see that never were?
Post by: MirrorEdge on August 10, 2011, 10:38:57 AM
Hi folks 

My dream SAK is alox recruit
Or alox bantam with siccors
 :drool: :drool: :drool:
Title: Re: What tools would you want to see that never were?
Post by: Reinier on August 10, 2011, 12:26:31 PM
Title: Re: What tools would you want to see that never were?
Post by: Zed on August 10, 2011, 12:50:06 PM
i agree on tweezers and toothpick on alox scales, surly vic could do this, i have a Cak  with both and alox style scales, ive always wanted a alox classic as i find the plastic ones break but would miss the toothpick and tweezers, my cak does the job till vic pull there finger out  :D

my cak
(http://i1235.photobucket.com/albums/ff428/zed1970/P1010010-11.jpg)
Title: What tools would you want to see that never were?
Post by: tattoosteve99 on August 10, 2011, 01:44:04 PM
Toothpick, tweezers, and pen for Alox Plus scales; I know a mod for it has been done, at least for the toothpick and tweezers.

Oh great. Now I have to add some more stuff to my mod ;)    More liners and more backsprings.
Title: Re: What tools would you want to see that never were?
Post by: Sazabi on August 10, 2011, 03:05:32 PM
Toothpick, tweezers, and pen for Alox Plus scales; I know a mod for it has been done, at least for the toothpick and tweezers.

Oh great. Now I have to add some more stuff to my mod ;)    More liners and more backsprings.

Actually, all you need is one or two additional liners; you can fit both the toothpick and tweezers on one scale, and maybe the pen, too, if you space it out appropriately. :tu:
Title: Re: What tools would you want to see that never were?
Post by: GraysonK on August 10, 2011, 04:23:14 PM
A 74mm sized midnight minichamp with the led light and sliding pen.  How cool would that be???
Title: Re: What tools would you want to see that never were?
Post by: AimlessWanderer on August 10, 2011, 05:04:11 PM
Victorinox "Juice" line
91mm/84mm Whancliffe main blade
Butane lighter that works (and ideally is servicable/replacable)
Victorinox locking drivers (Wenger style)
One of those fold out sword jobbies that Mr Sulu used in the Star Trek remake  :tu:
Title: Re: What tools would you want to see that never were?
Post by: Stirling3749 on August 11, 2011, 11:23:23 AM
91mm Diamond file.
Title: Re: What tools would you want to see that never were?
Post by: Styerman on August 11, 2011, 04:19:04 PM
Handcuff key .

Chris
Title: Re: What tools would you want to see that never were?
Post by: KiwiMark on August 12, 2011, 02:50:48 AM
91mm Diamond file.

I'd like a file like my Victorinox Ranger has but on one side a diamond file that is suitable for knife sharpening - so I could use my SAK to sharpen knives amongst other things.  The file on my Wave is one of the few things it is ahead of my SwissTool X with, having the diamond file on one side and regular file on the other.
Title: Re: What tools would you want to see that never were?
Post by: hurricane on August 13, 2011, 09:38:26 PM
I'd like to have that eyeglasses screwdriver and a mini-flashlight.
The tweezers on my Victorinox is too flimsy, and the file should be better quality.
I use the scissors a lot but I like the scissors on the leatherman a lot better.
Wire cutters and strippers.
A handcuff key could come in handy.
a tricorder - those things can do anything
food replicator
phaser
Title: Re: What tools would you want to see that never were?
Post by: Reinier on August 13, 2011, 11:40:19 PM
Why the hadcuff key? :think:
Title: Re: What tools would you want to see that never were?
Post by: WWW on August 14, 2011, 12:38:54 AM
  • Drum key (instead of corkscrew/Phillips);
  • Pencil sharpener (I've seen one on a prototype :D );
  • Comb (like on this one made by Neil: http://www.edcsource.com/Team-Multimoe-2010-MultiTool,name,105816,auction_id,auction_details (http://www.edcsource.com/Team-Multimoe-2010-MultiTool,name,105816,auction_id,auction_details) :) );
  • UTP cable stripper/cutter/crimper/punch tool, for the CyberTool 2.0;
  • ...

+ for the drum key  :drool: :drool:
Title: Re: What tools would you want to see that never were?
Post by: BN3140 on August 16, 2011, 05:05:29 AM
You would think that with Swiss Cheese and SAKs they would've tried putting cheese knives in one of these by now.  :D
Title: Re: What tools would you want to see that never were?
Post by: Reinier on August 17, 2011, 10:11:11 AM
You would think that with Swiss Cheese and SAKs they would've tried putting cheese knives in one of these by now.  :D

http://www.sosakonline.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=626&Itemid=35 (http://www.sosakonline.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=626&Itemid=35)
http://www.sakwiki.com/tiki-index.php?page=Kasemesser (http://www.sakwiki.com/tiki-index.php?page=Kasemesser)
http://forum.multitool.org/index.php?topic=22884.0 (http://forum.multitool.org/index.php?topic=22884.0)

:D
Title: Re: What tools would you want to see that never were?
Post by: Stirling3749 on August 17, 2011, 12:58:57 PM
91mm Diamond file.

I'd like a file like my Victorinox Ranger has but on one side a diamond file that is suitable for knife sharpening - so I could use my SAK to sharpen knives amongst other things.  The file on my Wave is one of the few things it is ahead of my SwissTool X with, having the diamond file on one side and regular file on the other.

Yeah in my opinion that's one of the few gaps in the Victorinox tool lineup.
Back when I was deciding between the Wave and the SpiritX it was almost a deal breaker for me.

I think a double file like what you described would be fantastic. Sharpening fishhooks and needles is what first comes to mind for me.
But then you couldn't very well rely on it as your sole means of knife sharpening because what would you use to sharpen the SAK blade? hahaha it's so near and yet so far.  :D
Title: Re: What tools would you want to see that never were?
Post by: Stirling3749 on August 17, 2011, 01:06:24 PM
Another thing I wouldn't mind seeing is a firesteel striker.
Sort of a specialized tool but simple enough that it could be included as part of another tool, much like the screwdrivers on the bottle and can openers.
I'm currently flirting with the idea of modding the backside fine screwdriver to include something along these lines, can't bring myself to use the awl or blade as a striker like some folks do.
Title: Re: What tools would you want to see that never were?
Post by: bushidomosquito on August 17, 2011, 09:02:28 PM
I know the flint wheel assembly from a zippo lighter can be redesigned into a foldout version for a SAK. Coupled with a removable magnesium scale inlay it would make an awesome bushcraft knife.
Title: Re: What tools would you want to see that never were?
Post by: KiwiMark on August 18, 2011, 01:16:57 AM
But then you couldn't very well rely on it as your sole means of knife sharpening because what would you use to sharpen the SAK blade? hahaha it's so near and yet so far.  :D

Not a problem, just buy 2 of them!
Title: Re: What tools would you want to see that never were?
Post by: BN3140 on August 18, 2011, 03:57:33 AM
You would think that with Swiss Cheese and SAKs they would've tried putting cheese knives in one of these by now.  :D

http://www.sosakonline.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=626&Itemid=35 (http://www.sosakonline.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=626&Itemid=35)
http://www.sakwiki.com/tiki-index.php?page=Kasemesser (http://www.sakwiki.com/tiki-index.php?page=Kasemesser)
http://forum.multitool.org/index.php?topic=22884.0 (http://forum.multitool.org/index.php?topic=22884.0)

:D

Now those are cool  :D
Title: Re: What tools would you want to see that never were?
Post by: KiwiMark on August 18, 2011, 07:19:44 AM
http://www.sosakonline.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=626&Itemid=35 (http://www.sosakonline.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=626&Itemid=35)
http://www.sakwiki.com/tiki-index.php?page=Kasemesser (http://www.sakwiki.com/tiki-index.php?page=Kasemesser)
http://forum.multitool.org/index.php?topic=22884.0 (http://forum.multitool.org/index.php?topic=22884.0)

A cheese knife?  I have enough SAKs, but I don't have one with a cheese knife - I could be tempted by one of those.  I wouldn't mind seeing another layer with the bottle opener & can opener and an option of a non-serrated main blade.  I can slice bread/tomatoes/whatever quite well with a plain edge blade, I don't really need a serrated blade for anything I ever cut.
Title: Re: What tools would you want to see that never were?
Post by: Donald on August 18, 2011, 04:49:20 PM
 :climber:

I agree with diamonds on the file. Scissors added to a Farmer.  :gimme:

Short marlinspike or fid in place of corkscrew or Philips as a backtool. I bet someone has modded a Philips backtool to do this.

More plus nylon scales, for that matter more plus scales, and utilizing both sides. There should be a place for a real stainless steel needle. One could either have a holder on the end of it that will come off for use or an empty pen barrel as a receptacle that would require nothing but not filling the pen with ink and adding an extra slot for this sewing needle carrier.
Title: Re: What tools would you want to see that never were?
Post by: bren10man on August 18, 2011, 06:44:29 PM
Universal shotgun choke tube....Wenger has that tool..why not Victorinox?
Title: Re: What tools would you want to see that never were?
Post by: tim on August 18, 2011, 10:42:18 PM
Another thing I wouldn't mind seeing is a firesteel striker.
Sort of a specialized tool but simple enough that it could be included as part of another tool, much like the screwdrivers on the bottle and can openers.

The can-opener makes an OK striker, as does the saw.

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can't bring myself to use the awl or blade as a striker like some folks do.

The blade gets knackered pretty quickly doing that, but if you always use the part near the tang it remains usable.
Title: Re: What tools would you want to see that never were?
Post by: django.cj on August 19, 2011, 12:50:04 AM
Universal shotgun choke tube....Wenger has that tool..why not Victorinox?

I like how Wenger has more specialized tools than Vic.  Makes them unique and useful, and not just another SAK maker.
Title: Re: What tools would you want to see that never were?
Post by: Stirling3749 on August 19, 2011, 07:17:28 AM
I know the flint wheel assembly from a zippo lighter can be redesigned into a foldout version for a SAK. Coupled with a removable magnesium scale inlay it would make an awesome bushcraft knife.

That's gotta be one of the most intriguing mod ideas I've heard. Have you done it? or do you know of someone who has?

Another thing I wouldn't mind seeing is a firesteel striker.
Sort of a specialized tool but simple enough that it could be included as part of another tool, much like the screwdrivers on the bottle and can openers.

The can-opener makes an OK striker, as does the saw.

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can't bring myself to use the awl or blade as a striker like some folks do.

The blade gets knackered pretty quickly doing that, but if you always use the part near the tang it remains usable.

Yeah I don't like to use anything that I'd want to remain as sharp as possible.
The saw? why would you use the poor saw?  :ahhh

But then you couldn't very well rely on it as your sole means of knife sharpening because what would you use to sharpen the SAK blade? hahaha it's so near and yet so far.  :D

Not a problem, just buy 2 of them!

I like the way you think.  :cheers:

Title: Re: What tools would you want to see that never were?
Post by: Gareth on August 19, 2011, 08:19:04 AM
You can use the back edge of the saw as a fire steel striker, the very sharp corner is excellent.  Personally I open the saw up and use the area near the pivot, less chance of it folding back on your fingers. :)
Title: Re: What tools would you want to see that never were?
Post by: meanx on August 19, 2011, 04:44:49 PM
A spirit level build into the scales would come in handy for me.
Title: Re: What tools would you want to see that never were?
Post by: Santos on August 21, 2011, 06:11:14 AM
Universal shotgun choke tube....Wenger has that tool..why not Victorinox?

although i see this come up in Sakwiki.com  I never seen it on ebay... is it still a current line? I might get one or two
Title: Re: What tools would you want to see that never were?
Post by: KiwiMark on August 21, 2011, 08:11:37 AM
A spirit level build into the scales would come in handy for me.

I have something like that built into my smart-phone - there are plenty of apps that can show a bubble level on the screen, but the one I use is called "Swiss Army Knife" - it has several useful apps: timer, stopwatch, compass, ruler, flash light & bubble level.  The flashlight uses the phone's LED camera flash and the ruler is very accurate once you calibrate it while holding an actual ruler beside the screen.
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.digital_and_dreams.android.swiss_army_knife&feature=search_result (https://market.android.com/details?id=com.digital_and_dreams.android.swiss_army_knife&feature=search_result)

How practical it might be to build a spirit level into a SAK I just don't know.
Title: Re: What tools would you want to see that never were?
Post by: Stirling3749 on August 21, 2011, 11:12:57 AM
You can use the back edge of the saw as a fire steel striker, the very sharp corner is excellent.  Personally I open the saw up and use the area near the pivot, less chance of it folding back on your fingers. :)

I just tried that out with the saw on my SpiritX, works pretty good. (http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn153/NKB_Pocket_Tools/smileys/_hatsoff__by_LeoLeonardo.gif)
Title: Re: What tools would you want to see that never were?
Post by: ironraven on August 21, 2011, 08:09:04 PM
For striking a ferro rod, you just need a good, clean, sharp corner on something harder than the ferrorod. I've seen it done on napped glass, but then you have to renap it.