#3 Could need tightening. Is the liner lock engaging solidly? Not sure I'd be so quick to send back.
My new Surge has the same problem the pliers rub on
the handles and this really shows up on the BO pliers ???
Charge SLV. Plier head rub. None. Blade play. No. Serrated. None. File rub. Yes. Saw rub. Very slightly.
Charge ALX. Plier head rub. Very slightly near the pivot. Blade play. None. Serrated. very slightly. File rub. yes. Saw rub. No.
Charge Ti, Plier head rub. None. Blade play. No. Serrated. No. File rub. yes. Saw rub. No.
Charge AL. Plier head rub. Yes near pivot. Blade play. None. Serrated. None. File rub. None. Saw rub. Very Slightly.
I'll check my TTi later as its in my vehicle.
I've highlighted my ALX BO earlier.
Hope this helps.
:rofl: Sorry OCD peeps. :whistle:
For collectors the older ones will always be collectable, even with the release of the camo charges. Thats my take.
When you guys are talking about the plier rubbing you mean against the side of the handle right?
Because my Wave + (and my Spirit) don't have that either, I was talking about the plier tip on the inside tools (see my loooong post above ;)).
My 07 TTI and 08 AL are absolutely PERFECT.Probably :facepalm:
Was I just lucky or was QC way better 10 years ago?
I just checked 3 or 4 of my Leatherman Tools (the ones I have nearby while sitting behind the PC) and guess what, they all have the plier scraping against the bit ...
The reason why I've never noticed this before seems to be that it's something that (mostly) happens when you pay close attention to closing the tool.
I mean, when I close the tool fast like I would during real use, I feel nothing, maybe the plier is still slightly scraping the bit, but if so, it happens very smooth and unnoticeable. But when I close the tool very slow, one handle at a time, leaving the side with the bit for last, putting the plierhead in the handle and then close up the tool real slow, I can see it scraping very hard, right up to the point that I have to apply extra force because the tip of the plierhead gets stuck on the edge of the bit.
Just checked what happens when you close the other handle last and very slow, and it scrapes the tools on the other side as well, but it's not so noticeable since the tools on the other side don't have the "edge" that the bit has, and they are all stainless, so you don't see the scraping line as good as on the black bit.
All of this on a tool that I use on a daily base, and on which I never noticed something wrong.
So I wonder; if you just close the tool like you would during real use, without paying attention to the plierhead sliding inside the handle and the scraping and all that, is it still noticeable enough to be a problem ? please, don't get me wrong, I'm not saying there isn't a problem on your Charge, but since I can't handle your tool the second best thing I could do was check some of mine, and this is what I noticed on them.
P.S.: I just checked one of my Spirits and guess what, the plierhead also scrapes while closing the handles, but ... Since the Spirit has outside opening tools the smart Vic engineers put in a slope for the plierhead to slide on until it is fully closed.
Blade scrapping inside of the scales is a common problem inherent to the design itself. The liner lock has to be perfect within microns for the end tip of the blade to be perfectly centered.
My 07 TTI and 08 AL are absolutely PERFECT.
Was I just lucky or was QC way better 10 years ago?
My 07 TTI and 08 AL are absolutely PERFECT.
Was I just lucky or was QC way better 10 years ago?
My Charge TTi from 2016 has no flaws, rubs, scrapes or misalignments. Knock on titanium...
An update. My replacement Charge Plus came yesterday. Inside the box I was surprised to find a Black Oxide tool with a molle sheath! I had never considered a BO Leatherman but I do like it.
After handling it and blackening up my hands and the surrounding environment I found it too has some wobble in both blades. Haha, oh well. Not sure there's much point flogging it further with the warranty returns. I have a Spirit XC which fulfils that part of me which lusts after a flawlessly precise tool.
An update. My replacement Charge Plus came yesterday. Inside the box I was surprised to find a Black Oxide tool with a molle sheath! I had never considered a BO Leatherman but I do like it.
After handling it and blackening up my hands and the surrounding environment I found it too has some wobble in both blades. Haha, oh well. Not sure there's much point flogging it further with the warranty returns. I have a Spirit XC which fulfils that part of me which lusts after a flawlessly precise tool.
I do hope in use you are happy with the tool. While I have a few Spirits and Swisstools and many Leatherman tools I think none are perfect/precise. After a wipe down the BO should stop marring your hands.
A bit late to the party and maybe I'm missing something, but surely the blade pivots can be tightened to at least reduce the wobble? (Security Torx T10 required, IIRC).
Ah, OK, thanks for the pics, nice! I see they've also changed the pivot screw heads to the old school knurled ones - so no Torx T10. I wonder why...
:facepalm: Thanks Sam, seems the Charge series have been off my radar for too long, since I acquired my Charge OG new in fact :DAh, OK, thanks for the pics, nice! I see they've also changed the pivot screw heads to the old school knurled ones - so no Torx T10. I wonder why...
DT.. For the AL/ALX series, they have been using the knurled screws all along.. From the very beginning.. :pok:
I just received mine today. :woohoo:
(https://i.imgur.com/NK50Inbh.jpg)
Hey SteveC,
Not trying to hijack the this thread but after you get a chance to play around with it, can you comment if you have any issue like @floppy has mentioned in his "Charge Plus issue's" thread? I see these have the actual "+" on the scale. I have seen some that do not have that!
Thx.