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Title: My take on EDC (by lister)
Post by: lister on November 08, 2014, 02:27:55 PM
I decided that I would like to start my own EDC thread, and this is it.  :multi:

So now what? Well I'll start with a group picture of my edc items (my htc desire z is missing from the picture since the picture is not its selfie  :D):
(http://i1195.photobucket.com/albums/aa396/list3r/IMAG0297.jpg) (http://s1195.photobucket.com/user/list3r/media/IMAG0297.jpg.html)

Ok, so there aren't so many cool gadgets in my EDC as in some I could mention, but there are some unique ones.  :D

In following posts I'll be adding pictures of individual parts of my edc with brief explanation what they are, what I use them for and so on. But the pace will be slow as I am quite pressed for time lately. I mentioned some of these items before and I'll add links to the previous descriptions.

A word of caution dough, I am bound to do some light philosophising on the subject of EDC so bear with me, or just ignore that parts if you cant.  :D
Title: Re: My take on EDC (by lister)
Post by: enki_ck on November 08, 2014, 05:34:04 PM
It's nice to have a consistent EDC that doesn't change too much over time. Means you found your perfect carry. :cheers:

I recognize most of the stuff here from previous posts but look forward to seeing it all in one place. :tu:

Glad you like the Mini, it's one of my favorites. :D
Title: Re: My take on EDC (by lister)
Post by: lister on November 08, 2014, 06:04:44 PM
The mini is my favorite multi tool. I even like the small blade everyone seems to hate. I need to buy three more just in case!  :D
Title: Re: My take on EDC (by lister)
Post by: zoidberg on November 08, 2014, 11:01:10 PM
Excellent, I'm looking forward to the break down posts.  :tu:
Title: Re: My take on EDC (by lister)
Post by: lister on November 16, 2014, 04:33:24 PM
So after a week it's time to start this thread again.  :D

I'll start with my left back pocket. As far as i am concerned i am not George Costanza so there Is no room for lots of gear in my back pockets.  :D That is why I only carry the pwII in my left back pocket and a shortened version at that.

(http://i1195.photobucket.com/albums/aa396/list3r/IMAG0220.jpg) (http://s1195.photobucket.com/user/list3r/media/IMAG0220.jpg.html)

The original thread: http://forum.multitool.org/index.php/topic,52036.msg886023.html#msg886023

I still didn't get around to making one from the original pwII so this is still the chinese copy.  :facepalm: For now it actually held up pretty well, but that maybe isn't all that impressive as the torque that I can apply with such short a lever isn't all that big. So is it even useful?

Well I used it multiple times to turn the valve of a water faucet at the local train station that is missing a handle (I wonder do they actually intend to fix that someday?),  I used it a few times at work to let the air out of the central heating, I even used on nuts and bolts and as a pry bar.So it does come in handy from time to time, but a normal person probably wouldn't bother to lug it around.  :D 
Title: Re: My take on EDC (by lister)
Post by: lister on November 16, 2014, 04:54:14 PM
Now to my right back pocket. No room for lots of gear rule still holds true. So this is the only thing that rides in my back pocket:

(http://i1195.photobucket.com/albums/aa396/list3r/IMAG0322.jpg) (http://s1195.photobucket.com/user/list3r/media/IMAG0322.jpg.html)

It is my modified fred. I use even its basic functions. In my country you still get the cans without the pull tab and all bottles are not the twist to open ones. So what about the spoon part? Well I never used It as a spoon, but I did use it to pry things apart. when the tip of the shortened pwII from the previous post was too wide to be useful.

I had to reshape the bottle opener as the original didn't work all that good. I also sharpened the curved part of the bottle opener to work as a box and envelope opener. I added the magnet to hold the blade of the can opener closed, but it is also useful for picking ferromagnetic stuff up (I tend to drop small screws and bolts a lot). So I actually use this one a lot.
Title: Re: My take on EDC (by lister)
Post by: bdAmmo on November 19, 2014, 06:28:33 AM
Great idea adding that magnet :tu:, I can definitely see where that could come in handy from time to time.
Title: Re: My take on EDC (by lister)
Post by: Aloha on November 19, 2014, 06:32:54 AM
 I love to read why others choose to carry what they carry.  Pictures are also awesome so thanks for following up. 
Title: Re: My take on EDC (by lister)
Post by: lister on December 07, 2014, 03:50:44 PM
Time for me to continue this thread after a long delay due. Lately my work has been seriously cutting into my free time...  :D

And now the contents of my left front pocket:
(http://i1195.photobucket.com/albums/aa396/list3r/IMAG0370.jpg) (http://s1195.photobucket.com/user/list3r/media/IMAG0370.jpg.html)

This sheath that I made myself hangs suspended in to the pocket form a belt loop (the first one to the left of the fly). It prevents all the stuff from bunching up in the bottom of the pocket and protects all the gadgets from being all scratched up. It is a bit like a dangler but better.  ::)

This is all the stuff that is in the sheath:
(http://i1195.photobucket.com/albums/aa396/list3r/IMAG0374.jpg) (http://s1195.photobucket.com/user/list3r/media/IMAG0374.jpg.html)

The items listed clockwise from the 12 o'clock position:

* maillon - I use it to attach the sheath to the belt loop.
* photon Freedom micro led light - What could that be used for?!  ??? :D
* folded plastic bag - In case I need to protect my electronic stuff from water
* one piece screwdriver tool from swisscard
* letherman squirt ps4
* victorinox minichamp
* small brass capsule containing two spare flints - Made from a time setting knob of   mechanical alarm clock.
* maratac peanut lighter
* true utility telepen
* phillips and flathead screwdriver
* sewing kit - This one will be explained further in a separate post:
* keychain tweezers (uncle bill's)
* V sharpener - Made form a victorinox pocket sharpener that I accidentally broke and then modified for the purpose.
* rope ladder - Actually it is a loop of paracord sewn together in several places. I use it when I need to suspend the sheath lower than usual, for instance when I am wearing short pants. To set desired depth I simply move the maillon to the appropriate rung.

The two spare batteries for the photon freedom are missing since I just had to change them. The batteries, the plastic bag and the one piece victorinox screwdriver are stored in pockets of the sheath that can be seen in the first picture in the right hand side of the sheath.

This setup is the basis of my edc and can work as a standalone edc.
Title: Re: My take on EDC (by lister)
Post by: lister on December 14, 2014, 07:06:56 PM
Has anyone ever made a serious study on how to lug all this stuff around? I am not saying that it will be me in this thread but I will talk about it a bit. I like to have all the stuff on me and not in a backpack or a bag so this is a topic into which I did delve a bit.

In many stories the authors actually do delve a bit in to a topic of how a man can carry all the needed stuff around. The first approach is the most physically impossible and is called a magic satchel or a hammerspace. The character simply has an unlimited space on his person or in a bag. In reality that is impossible and at the same time exactly the thing many of us want to do. In addition to that the characters in stories either carry stuff on their person on in bags/containers.

One way the author can solve the problem of characters caring all they need on their person is by employing one all-powerful object that can do everything like a sak of the Mcgiver, the sonic screwdriver of the doctor or a towel in the HHTG. Of course it is hard to find only one item of edc that can do everything with the possible exception of large amounts of money in a form of a credit card. :D I think that a generally agreed upon golden standard for a minimal general purpose edc is a multi-tool, a flashlight and a lighter.

The other popular way is to have the characters secrete various characters around his or her person. This basically means that all the stuff that the character caries and the way it is done can’t easily be seen. This means that he or she has an advantage of surprise and style. This is also the method I strive after with my edc.

And last but not the least is to have the character employ various pieces of gear in addition to their clothing to transport their possessions. This includes the well-known utility belts (Batman I am looking at you! :D), backpacks, satchels (Arthur Dent do you still carry yours?), tactical wests etc. In reality this is the most convenient way. It has some down sides. Utility belts are not always appropriate for the social role you find yourself in. They are great if you are the Batman, a policeman or a tradesman but not so great if you are a teacher or a clerk etc. In addition if the belt is too heavy it can hurt your back in the long term. Backpacks and sling bags are also useful, can handle heavier loads and their stile can be chosen so they are appropriate to more situations. But the downside is you can get separated from them easier than form the items that area attached to you.

Anyway I really need to make some kind of a study on possibilities of carrying stuff on one’s person. Like how does the anatomy influence the appropriate ways, and how the physics influences the ease of movement.  But not today…
Title: Re: My take on EDC (by lister)
Post by: NKlamerus on December 15, 2014, 04:27:46 AM
This is awesome.

As far as anatomy goes, what exactly will you be looking at? How items fit in the squall on your back? How thighs are not cylindrical but instead funnel shaped.

Therfore pockets don't really get in the way or "stick out" and bump things. (Unless you carry a SAK :P   )

Title: Re: My take on EDC (by lister)
Post by: parnass on December 15, 2014, 05:45:44 AM
Has anyone ever made a serious study on how to lug all this stuff around? I am not saying that it will be me in this thread but I will talk about it a bit. I like to have all the stuff on me and not in a backpack or a bag so this is a topic into which I did delve a bit.

I am constantly re-evaluating ways to carry EDC gear on my person.  Like you, I prefer not to lug a backpack or manbag.

When shopping for clothes, I select garments with more pockets of generous size.

A zip tie is tucked inside the brim of each hat and some cordage inside the pocket of each jacket, for example.

I used to carry 5 or 6 feet of paracord in my pants leg.

(http://parnass.com/images/cord-in-pants2.jpg)

(http://parnass.com/images/cord-in-pants0.jpg)
Title: Re: My take on EDC (by lister)
Post by: kkokkolis on December 15, 2014, 07:11:52 AM
Ah, EDC. What matters is the voyage, not the destination.
Title: Re: My take on EDC (by lister)
Post by: Aloha on December 15, 2014, 08:02:18 AM
Ah, EDC. What matters is the voyage, not the destination.

Yes processing the process is what's fun.   I enjoy how each person approaches their daily carry and how they come to their decisions.  We certainly don't see enough of how this stuff gets carried only the bags and sheaths.  I like seeing how one assembles their daily tools and then proceeds to carry them.     
Title: Re: My take on EDC (by lister)
Post by: lister on December 15, 2014, 07:37:48 PM
@NKlamerus: First I will try to find some general rules and make some pseudo scientific diagrams then I will try to go in to the details. We will see how it goes, the next installment probably follows this weekend. :D

@Parnass: I like that you have something to add to the discussion, I hope there will be others. The more the merrier and all that.  :tu:

@Kkokkolis and Aloha007: Most of the fun in edc is indeed in inventing your own.  :cheers: :D
Title: Re: My take on EDC (by lister)
Post by: lister on December 15, 2014, 07:39:33 PM
Oh, also I wanted to share this:

http://www.ausgeruestet.com/2009/11/diy-wallet-pen.html

It is not mine but it is a great idea if you ask me!
Title: Re: My take on EDC (by lister)
Post by: lister on December 16, 2014, 05:36:54 PM
The contents of my fifth/watch/coin pocket:

(http://i1195.photobucket.com/albums/aa396/list3r/IMAG0417.jpg) (http://s1195.photobucket.com/user/list3r/media/IMAG0417.jpg.html)

Sorry for bad pictures, but the light was really bad.

The first object is the leatherman mini, an awesome miltitool that should newer have gone out of production! Damn you to hell for that leatherman!  :D I really like this tool, even the small knife it comes with that helps a lot in making my edc non threatening. I don't want to be known as the knife guy or the armed one. That's why the longest blade in my edc is the one on the minie (I find even the 91mm sak blade is too long). I have it secured to belt loop with the black cord that can be seen on the picture.

The other item is bic mini lighter with my home made cap. I made it form a blue jeans and a lot of superglue. That combo is surprisingly useful and can be seen on another part of my edc, namely the capsule of my sewing kit.
Title: Re: My take on EDC (by lister)
Post by: lister on December 20, 2014, 01:27:38 PM
In my right front pocket I carry:

Nothing, nothing at all.

But today I ordered something to fill that void. The kalarus mi x5 (http://www.klaruslightusa.com/index-34.html), the quite expensive AAAA flashlight. It will be the costliest piece of my kit. But I will have to wait for it a bit, since the Survival depot uk won't be shipping anything till the January the 2nd 2015...  :(

And now for the long wait...  :ahhh
Title: Re: My take on EDC (by lister)
Post by: lister on January 11, 2015, 12:01:08 PM
A closer look at the sewing kit (mentioned in my post about my left front pocket :D):

(http://i1195.photobucket.com/albums/aa396/list3r/IMG_3406.jpg) (http://s1195.photobucket.com/user/list3r/media/IMG_3406.jpg.html)

And the contents:

(http://i1195.photobucket.com/albums/aa396/list3r/IMG_3407.jpg) (http://s1195.photobucket.com/user/list3r/media/IMG_3407.jpg.html)

Starting from the upper left hand corner:

- thimble
- button
- a cover of the capsule (Actually it is also a thimble but it was to small for my fingers. That is why I put an earbud cover over it so the first thimble doesn't fall off when I put it over the second one.)
- three safety pins
- a small magnet
- piece of copper wire

Moving to the second row:

- the lower part of the capsule
- two spools of thread (black and white) whit lots of pins stuck in
- a needle threader
- a seam ripper
- small marlin spike... just because!  :D
- seven needles
- the case for the needles
 

Title: Re: My take on EDC (by lister)
Post by: styx on January 11, 2015, 12:08:57 PM
how often do you have to sew something?
Title: Re: My take on EDC (by lister)
Post by: lister on January 11, 2015, 12:39:00 PM
Not that often. When I made this I did not intend it to be an edc item. But then I found I had some space left in my pocket... :D


Most often I use one of the pins or safety pins. I used it to sew something 4 times in the last year or so...  :D But it is a nice peace of gear and I simply cant leave it home to gather dust, it is way better for it to gather pocket lint.

Besides edc is often not about what you need but what you want...
Title: Re: My take on EDC (by lister)
Post by: styx on January 11, 2015, 01:25:38 PM
When you're right, you're right. I still don't understand why I have a tape measure and an allen wrench in my edc
Title: Re: My take on EDC (by lister)
Post by: enki_ck on January 11, 2015, 08:13:14 PM
This is still the best pocket sewing kit kit I've ever seen. :hatsoff: I'd buy one in a second. :tu:
Title: Re: My take on EDC (by lister)
Post by: leg0man on January 12, 2015, 03:16:43 AM
Good discussion on how/where to carry stuff - something I've been thinking about a lot lately. I want my EDC to be minimalist, but also have a lot of functionality, which seems mutually exclusive. Like you, I want everything easily on my person, not in bags or even coat pockets because I don't wear a jacket for half the year. I'm getting to the point that what I want to carry will rank as highly as style when I next shop for pants!

I really like your customised solutions, with the pocket sheath and the sewing kit.
Title: Re: My take on EDC (by lister)
Post by: NKlamerus on January 12, 2015, 03:18:43 AM
You wanna talk about struggle for loation? I wear Gym shorts for pretty much all year. And even a skeletool "rolls" in the pockets edge!

Still wanting some Pseudo scientific diagrams!
Title: Re: My take on EDC (by lister)
Post by: lister on January 12, 2015, 02:57:27 PM
Yeah, there is severe lack of good sewing kits on the market. And I had an idea or two how to remedy that... Can you imagine keychain awl/multitool? :D Just wait until I finali have enough time and energy at the same time to learn how to use free cad...
 
I am getting to the promised diagrams and further exploration of edc theory soon. The dam job keeps cutting into my free time.  :ahhh
Title: Re: My take on EDC (by lister)
Post by: lister on February 22, 2015, 12:20:10 PM
(http://i1195.photobucket.com/albums/aa396/list3r/IMAG0459.jpg) (http://s1195.photobucket.com/user/list3r/media/IMAG0459.jpg.html)

This is the latest addition to my edc. It is the klarus mi x5, an aaaa battery flashlight. Due to the size of the batteries it is really small and despite of them it is really bright. The body is gold plated steel.

The size of the batteries also brings some down sides. The main one is they are quite hard to get in my country but Ebay solves this issue for me. Also smaller batteries bring reduced run time, but with 40 minutes on the brightest setting I can live with it.

I made the dangler myself. As you can see I used a zipper pull and added a home made clip. The clip is made form the blade of a hacksaw which I ground in to the shape and bent it over a fire and than quenched it in a water. For added grip to the edge of the pocket I puled over a piece of heat shrink tubing and shrank it with a lighter. At the en I sewn it on to the zipper pull through the hole that once served to fix the blade into the hacksaw. Now it reside in the left front pocket.  :multi:

Ps: It is funny how you need a stronger flashlight at day than at night.  :D
Pps: At night every one in a group really should have lights that are of the same strength, If not eyes adapt to the brightness of the strongest one which makes all the rest too dim to see  by.  ::)
Title: Re: My take on EDC (by lister)
Post by: glorn on February 23, 2015, 06:14:54 AM
I always appreciate the dedication and the ingenuity I see among the "pants based EDC" crowd. But I must be honest when I say that I do not envy you. I simply do not like a bunch of stuff in my pockets. Drives me crazy.

As another poster mentioned above, I too wear gym shorts in the summer, along with other pants or garments that cover the lower half of my body, and I just don't want to be limited to heavy cargo pants/shorts as my only option.

My pocket limit is a small single AA light, a folder, a Bic lighter, a Quikoin, a comb, an EAB used as a money clip, and lately a small flint "worry stone" just because it is nice to fiddle with and beautiful (and I am obsessed with fire making).

The Bic and the light go in the fifth pocket. Flint and Quikoin in the front right bottom, folder clipped. EAB and comb in left front pocket. Back pockets empty.

Where is the rest? In a bag.

I imagine the bag predates the pocket historically, though I may be wrong. To me the bag is the most obvious answer. I don't really understand the objection to it at all.

I can wear whatever I want and have the bag with me. I do not wear suits, but I could surely find a bag that would work with a suit if I did. If I gather more stuff while out or need to take along additional items that day.. hey! I already have a bag for that!

I also carry water every day. I drink 64 ounces at least on an average day, and more on gym days. I like to just have that in a bag obviously. Perhaps you don't need that option, I do.

I don't have heavy pockets. I don't have to worry about what I will do if I am going to be wearing athletic clothes or a swimsuit or a lavalava. I just grab the bag.

People always say, "But you can lose the bag!"

Guys lose their wallets, keys, cellphones, etc. all the time and nobody tells them to stop putting these things into pockets.

I am so used to the bag that it is an extension of myself. I keep it with me, I keep it in sight, I am usually wearing it or it is riding next to me in a vehicle. I do not lose the shoes I am wearing.. I am not known for losing my jacket.. So why would my bag be at any greater risk?

You know whom I really envy? The bum bag guys. Fanny pack, or whathaveyou. That is an ideal compromise in so many ways. Holds quite a bit, easy on and off, no need for full pockets, and so on.

Problem is (and no offense to you if you sport one) that a bum bag just looks awful on everyone. I simply could not wear one and go out in public without feelng self conscious. And I'm really not a self conscious kind of guy (see lavalava above).

And this is where I come full circle and beg the bum baggers to forgive me.. Because I wonder.. To you pocket carry types.. are all bags just bum bags to you? Is that the real objection? You just can't be seen with a bag?

If that is honestly it, then I suppose I understand. Because fanny packs. -shudder-




Title: Re: My take on EDC (by lister)
Post by: English333 on February 23, 2015, 06:31:11 AM
You wanna talk about struggle for loation? I wear Gym shorts for pretty much all year. And even a skeletool "rolls" in the pockets edge!

Still wanting some Pseudo scientific diagrams!

I cannot even begin to feel your pain. This board short mentality is so foreign to me. If I remember correctly DC makes a cargo short/board short combo. 6 pockets I believe and made of a quick dry material. You could just carry your EDC and then leave it in the car when going for a swim?
Title: Re: My take on EDC (by lister)
Post by: Aloha on February 23, 2015, 06:50:46 PM
I guess we could start a whole thread on man bags vs pocket carry vs bum bag vs other carry options. 

I personally don't like man bags and also feel the bum bag is really the best of all worlds yet I cannot bring myself to wear one ( yet ).  I don't wear tactical pants nor cargo pants nor suits so for me jeans and typically a shirt with pockets is what I have for EDC items. 

Wallet FLP, Handkerchief/SAK FRP, Lip balm Coin pocket, Bandana/folder BLP, Sheath on belt is how I run.  Typically I dont carry anything in my RRP and while it may seem like all my pocket are occupied its all light and easy to carry YMMV.  Cell goes into shirt pocket and key on belt loop.  The only time I run with a bag is when I'm out on hikes or need additional gear which I almost never in the city. 

I do love seeing who everyone carries their stuff and especially what everyone carries.   

       
Title: Re: My take on EDC (by lister)
Post by: Zed on February 23, 2015, 07:32:17 PM
Im the same thith manbags ,now bumbags  :facepalm: i wear one at work,its a joggers small one and very flush fitting,i keep a small torch,farmer ,pen,and a key for the lift door,works well as frees my cargo pockets for tones of latex gloves  :tu:
Title: Re: My take on EDC (by lister)
Post by: Aloha on February 23, 2015, 07:34:37 PM
Im the same thith manbags ,now bumbags  :facepalm: i wear one at work,its a joggers small one and very flush fitting,i keep a small torch,farmer ,pen,and a key for the lift door,works well as frees my cargo pockets for tones of latex gloves  :tu:

Oh if we're talking work gear then space it not an issue for me its weight at that point.   I carry a loaded tool belt with attached pouches with suspenders to help with the load. 
Title: Re: My take on EDC (by lister)
Post by: Zed on February 23, 2015, 07:37:25 PM
 :tu: i was the same on my maintenance job,although ive been thinking about using a bumbag in normal life  :facepalm: problem is ill over weigh it  :D
Title: Re: My take on EDC (by lister)
Post by: glorn on February 23, 2015, 11:02:34 PM
I started with a backpack.. A small day pack type. That was more or less what I lived out of.

When cycling became my principal means of transport, a messenger bag took that spot.

When a truck became my new means of transport, I was kind of in limbo for a bit until I saw the Maxpedition Fatboy bag a friend was using. The organization was just brilliant, and I didn't really like my messenger bag off bike that much.

This worked well for me save for water carry. Truth be told though I never was 100% in love  with the "man bag" looks of it though. Shoulder bag.. Long strap.. Always flinging it around to retrieve things. Eh. Great bag mind you, just not me.

Ultimately the lack of water carry killed it for me.

I am back to a day pack now. Right where I started. A Sitka from Maxpedition, so technically a sling bag, but for all intents and purposes a one strap day pack.

Maybe I am biased, but I never think "man bag" when I see a guy with a day pack of any sort. I do groan a little if I see one festooned with blood type and a flag and some militant slogan "humor" catchphrase on a man over 30 at the grocery store. I am of the mind that even a bag with MOLLE should be considered in terms of color and accessory taste when worn by a grown man outside a war zone or off an air soft park. But I digress.

Pocket carry, my friends! If you can manage. Bum bag away if you haven't a care for stares! Rock that day pack if you don't mind the sore shoulder!

If it makes you happy, who am I to judge.

But I will poke fun if you look like Airsoft Rambo in flip flops at the check out. And I might snicker if you actually have one of those true designer Hollywood man purses.
Title: Re: My take on EDC (by lister)
Post by: NKlamerus on April 06, 2015, 03:31:50 AM
Still Waiting for some Philosophizing (spelling way off?)  :whistle:
Title: Re: My take on EDC (by lister)
Post by: tommywp on April 06, 2015, 07:09:11 PM
Great thread. I too exclusively pocket carry and obsess on figuring out the best set up.

The key to my whole system is that I don't carry a dedicated folder and my primary tool is carried in the far side of my back left pocket with a bandana filling the rest of the space to keep the tool vertical. The tool doesn't get sat on in that portion of the pocket and sitting on the bandana isn't uncomfortable.

The tool can't be too thick. I favor a 2-3 layer Alox SAK with the lanyard sitting inside the folded bandana to help keep it in place (see picture) or a Skeletool with the pocket clip removed and the bandana flipped 90 degrees so that its taller and skinner. Believe it or not, the Skeletool is a more comfortable carry in jeans then the 3 layer Alox SAK.  If you wear very loose pants this might not work too well, but for me the SAK or Skeletool stays in place incredibly well. I also only use my tool a few times a day and the carry method might not be great for a more frequent user.

Wallet goes in the back right pocket and phone in the front left. That leaves the front right pocket for keys on a suspension clip and the rest of my EDC.

When wearing slacks I go with a SAK Pioneer in the back left, a AAA flashlight on the keys clipped to the front right pocket (picture), with  maybe a 58mm SAK Manager on the keys too (but I've been finding even that too be a little much lately).

When wearing jeans I go with the Skeletool in the back left, Style CS/Brewzer/AAA flashlight in the coin pocket, and keys clipped to the front right pocket. Sometimes I'll also get rid of the small AAA and clip a Preon 2 penlight to the right pocket and let the keys fall to the bottom of the pocket. I also dream about replacing the Style CS and Brewzer with a custom SAK that was just scissors, saw, bottle opener, and can opener ground in to a technicians screwdriver ...but it would need to be an 84mm SAK so that it didn't stick out the top of the coin pocket.

Still trying to figure out my shorts carry...but currently thinking a Farmer SAK in the back left, and keys and a Squirt PS4 clipped to the front right pocket. But I'm not liking the loss of the flashlight. Thinking that keys, the Squirt, and a Veleno Quantaum D2 on the keychain might be doable but not sure how much less bulky that's really going to make the front pocket (as opposed to the AAA). Also thinking about replacing the Squirt and Farmer with a custom 3 layer Alox SAK but that would end up costing me the saw and pliers which I'm also not liking.

When I'm  doing yard work or heavier chores I generally wear Dickies carpenter pants. My MUT gets clipped to my  front right pocket, a AA flashlight gets clipped to the carpenter pocket and a Pirranha falls to the bottom of the carpenter pocket. I added Swisscard  scissors and tweezers to the MUT (someone elses idea) and ground the punch in to a small screwdriver (someone else's idea too) and really think it's a great around the house tool. Now if I could just replace the MUT carbon scrapper with a stronger awl  :rant:

Title: Re: My take on EDC (by lister)
Post by: Obi1shinobee on April 12, 2015, 07:47:46 PM
I decided that I would like to start my own EDC thread, and this is it.  :multi:

So now what? Well I'll start with a group picture of my edc items (my htc desire z is missing from the picture since the picture is not its selfie  :D):
(http://i1195.photobucket.com/albums/aa396/list3r/IMAG0297.jpg) (http://s1195.photobucket.com/user/list3r/media/IMAG0297.jpg.html)

Ok, so there aren't so many cool gadgets in my EDC as in some I could mention, but there are some unique ones.  :D

In following posts I'll be adding pictures of individual parts of my edc with brief explanation what they are, what I use them for and so on. But the pace will be slow as I am quite pressed for time lately. I mentioned some of these items before and I'll add links to the previous descriptions.

A word of caution dough, I am bound to do some light philosophising on the subject of EDC so bear with me, or just ignore that parts if you cant.  :D

+1 :tu:
Title: Re: My take on EDC (by lister)
Post by: lister on April 18, 2015, 11:28:35 PM
It's been pointed out in I failed to do all the philosophising I threatened you with at the start of this thread. So after a long pause off we go to some light ramblings about the effects of mass on movement  :D ::).

Mass of all the stuff we carry can be annoying. When we are expose to gravity, as most of us are every day (any astronauts around here? :D), the mass gains weight that can get in the way really quickly. At this point note that I talk about mass and not just the weight. Of course too much weight tiers us out and makes it hard to move. In additon there are problems even without all the mucking around with gravity we usualy. The more mass an object has the harder it is to change its velocity.  That means the more you carry the harder it is to accelerate and decelerate and to make turns as all of your mass wants to continue to move in the same direction and at the same speed. So the less mass you have to edc the better.

In addition to the liner movements we do a lot of rotational movement. When we walk we swing our legs and arms as a sort of a double pendulum in a rotary movement and if we place some of our edc on our extremities the edc is of course moved in the same fashion. The equivalent of the mas moving linearly for the rotary movement is the moment of inertia. It is the product of mass and the second power of the distance of the center of that mass to the axis of rotation. So it is important for the ease of movement to place the mass as close to the axis of rotation as possible. In other words anything that is on your legs must be as close to the hip as possible and anything on your arm as close to the shoulder as possible. If that is not possible the item must be as light as they can be (light shoes and wrist watches anyone? :D). It is also important to be aware of the fact that if you carry something twice further from the joint the resistance to movement increases fourfold! Also the torque increases the further you get from the joint but not with the power of two.

Also, here is the Vitruvian man with some graphs for the moment of inertia and the torque : :salute::   

(http://i1195.photobucket.com/albums/aa396/list3r/rect4816.png) (http://s1195.photobucket.com/user/list3r/media/rect4816.png.html)


  :multi: :facepalm:
I hope to get the next instalment up much sooner...
Title: Re: My take on EDC (by lister)
Post by: lister on May 16, 2015, 02:23:11 PM
(http://i1195.photobucket.com/albums/aa396/list3r/awl1.png) (http://s1195.photobucket.com/user/list3r/media/awl1.png.html)

Anyone want to guess what this is supposed to be?  ::)
Title: Re: My take on EDC (by lister)
Post by: zoidberg on May 16, 2015, 02:51:10 PM
A sewing awl?  :think:
Title: Re: My take on EDC (by lister)
Post by: NKlamerus on May 16, 2015, 02:53:20 PM
Tattoo needle?
Title: Re: My take on EDC (by lister)
Post by: lister on May 16, 2015, 03:43:32 PM
Yes it is an sewing awl but also a possible upgrade to my sewing kit.

It should be about 5 cm long and accept sewing needles form a sewing machine. The upper part of the body is still a thimble, the same as with my current setup. On the inside of the body There should be some kind of spool with severe separations for different threads and a hole in the middle for storing needles and the res of the stuff. I didn't design the spool yet that's why it is not on the picture.
The thimble is supposed to be screwed on to the body but I didn't manage yet to draw the threads in the FreeCAD.

I will be needing some advice form someone who knows a bit about lathes, as I imagine this could be made on a lathe? Maybe from someone that made custom flashlights (am I wrong or do we have a member or two with such experience?  :D)?   
Title: Re: My take on EDC (by lister)
Post by: zoidberg on May 16, 2015, 03:57:58 PM
Make plenty of them, I want one and I'm sure others will too.  ;)
Title: Re: My take on EDC (by lister)
Post by: lister on May 16, 2015, 07:05:07 PM
Make plenty of them, I want one and I'm sure others will too.  ;)

If I get around to doing an actual prototype and if it works well I will get a few more made if anyone will be interested. :tu:

Title: Re: My take on EDC (by lister)
Post by: lister on May 17, 2015, 06:35:01 PM
This is how the sewing awl and the spool might look like:

(http://i1195.photobucket.com/albums/aa396/list3r/exploded%20awl%20assembely%201.png) (http://s1195.photobucket.com/user/list3r/media/exploded%20awl%20assembely%201.png.html)

Title: Re: My take on EDC (by lister)
Post by: lister on May 17, 2015, 07:31:33 PM
And the awl assembled:

(http://i1195.photobucket.com/albums/aa396/list3r/assembely%20.png) (http://s1195.photobucket.com/user/list3r/media/assembely%20.png.html)
Title: Re: My take on EDC (by lister)
Post by: lister on May 18, 2015, 07:17:21 PM
I have a question for mods: If I open a new thread about my sewing awl with questions about designing it further am I breaking forum rules? Do I need subscription for the multi tool think tank?  :think:
Title: Re: My take on EDC (by lister)
Post by: pfrsantos on May 18, 2015, 08:12:31 PM
I have a question for mods: If I open a new thread about my sewing awl with questions about designing it further am I breaking forum rules? Do I need subscription for the multi tool think tank?  :think:

You mean... There are rules for opening threads?!...

 :ahhh :ahhh :ahhh :ahhh

Title: Re: My take on EDC (by lister)
Post by: lister on May 18, 2015, 08:30:39 PM
I have a question for mods: If I open a new thread about my sewing awl with questions about designing it further am I breaking forum rules? Do I need subscription for the multi tool think tank?  :think:

You mean... There are rules for opening threads?!...

 :ahhh :ahhh :ahhh :ahhh

Well I don't know that is why I am asking. We do have multi tool think tank subforum where you can't open new threads If you are not a member of no life club. And what I am doing is kind of designing a new tool so... ?  :D
Title: Re: My take on EDC (by lister)
Post by: ToolJoe on May 19, 2015, 05:11:55 PM
I keep my pocket carry to a minimum now. Phone in my left pocket and Crater or Tinker, wallet and cheapstick in my right pocket. Keys get clipped to a belt loop.
Title: Re: My take on EDC (by lister)
Post by: zoidberg on May 19, 2015, 05:22:50 PM
I have a question for mods: If I open a new thread about my sewing awl with questions about designing it further am I breaking forum rules? Do I need subscription for the multi tool think tank?  :think:

Open your thread.  :tu:  I will take the heat if there is any.
Title: Re: My take on EDC (by lister)
Post by: pfrsantos on May 19, 2015, 05:34:53 PM
I have a question for mods: If I open a new thread about my sewing awl with questions about designing it further am I breaking forum rules? Do I need subscription for the multi tool think tank?  :think:

Open your thread.  :tu:  I will take the heat if there is any.

I'd say if you can open a thread in a sub-forum, you can open a thread in that sub-forum. Anyway, Z-man as got your back so I'd say you're safe!

 :salute: :tu:
Title: Re: My take on EDC (by lister)
Post by: lister on May 19, 2015, 05:35:40 PM
Open your thread.  :tu:  I will take the heat if there is any.

I sent a PM to Grant about this. So if all goes well no heat will need be taken.  :cheers: :D
Title: Re: My take on EDC (by lister)
Post by: lister on June 28, 2015, 01:57:11 PM
So I have a new addition to my edc:

(http://i1195.photobucket.com/albums/aa396/list3r/unnamed.jpg) (http://s1195.photobucket.com/user/list3r/media/unnamed.jpg.html)

Ok, so it is nothing spectacular, it is a travel belt. But it is useful, not just for the obvious reason (holding my pants up) but also because I added a zipper to the inner side so I can store stuff inside. I use it to store 100€ and 50€ banknotes taped inside two plastic sleeves and 10 2€ coins. So this sums up to 170€ of backup cash. It already came in handy a few times. The only problem is you need to find a private space to take the money out. You can imagine that it would get weird quick if you had to pay for something and you started undoing your belt to that end.  ::)


Good thing is that to the outside it look just like a normal belt so nobody will accuse you of being batman or is likely to steal it from you. If anyone is going to make one for him/herself Just make sure that the zipper pull ends next to the belt buckle when the zipper is closed. That way the zipper pull wont rub against your waist.
Title: Re: My take on EDC (by lister)
Post by: twiliter on June 28, 2015, 11:02:07 PM
Sorry to interrupt fellas, I'm a pocket carry minimalist type, but this thing looks kinda Batman cool >> https://www.leatherman.com/tread-425.html , and paired with an Apple watch would be a fairly portable complete package? I don't wear jewelry of any type, it drives me insane, but the ideas are cool.  :salute:

Of course any Swiss Army options are always my preferred route...  ::)

Very good reading on this thread!  :tu:
Title: Re: My take on EDC (by lister)
Post by: Leathermended It! on June 29, 2015, 12:02:48 AM
I've found that I don't like really complicated small edc packages. I couldn't carry a pocket organiser because In my job I frequently need to use a tool and get back to work fast, I can't spend time trying to re-organise my gear. I like to sheath carry my multitool, and I also carry medium to large tools. My normal carry is an Ontario Rat 1, Streamlight Stylus Pro, Leatherman Core or Wave, Paper Napkins, and "dog spray". Living in Canada, I'm constantly dealing with Robertson head screws, so the sheath carry really helps to organise that system.
Title: Re: My take on EDC (by lister)
Post by: lister on June 29, 2015, 07:19:21 PM
I am not sure that you will be able to put the tread to any watch but it would definitely be coll if you could. I would combine it with this watch if I had enough funds:

https://azfinetime.wordpress.com/2013/06/14/casio-pro-trek-manaslu-prx7001t-7-review/

But the price would be steep: 950 usd for the watch + import charges + falling value of the euro + 200 for the tread...  :gimme:

My stile of EDC is not well suited for someone who needs the tools really fast. But it offers me a way of carrying an absurd amount of absurd stuff without anyone noticing it if I don't want them to.  :D
Title: Re: My take on EDC (by lister)
Post by: lister on March 09, 2017, 04:30:15 PM
Yeah, I am resurrecting this thread.

I figured out that you can stash a sewing needle with a pre-threaded piece of thread wound around the needle (the end of which should be glued to prevent it unwrapping). I don't know if I am the first to come up with the idea, probably not, but I guess I found a use for the hook...  :climber:


Also, I reali must make a post about my current EDC, as it has changed somewhat.  :D
Title: Re: My take on EDC (by lister)
Post by: lister on March 11, 2017, 02:36:19 PM
I could't attach this image before I got to my computer so:
Title: Re: My take on EDC (by lister)
Post by: lister on March 11, 2017, 02:54:57 PM
And this is my current basic (basic as in the stuff in my pants pockets). The image is not the best as it was taken by my phone, but that is all the photographic equipment I have...  :D


Anyway, I simplified my system a bit.

The keychain is still hangs from my belt loop, tucked in my left pocket, but I removed the sheat, and some tools. The flashlight got a sheath (variation on the theme of my hooded sheath from my early days on this forum) and a clip so I can carry it clipped on the back of my left pocket.

The LM mini tool and the lighter reside in my coin pocket. I lost the denim superglued cap I used to heave on my lighter somewhere in France...

The SAK is new. It is the fieldmaster with the plus scales. I exchanged the pin for a bit bigger sewing needle with a piece of string tied trough the eye so I can get it out of the slot. And as mentioned earlier I keep a small sewing needle with a length of a thread under the hook. I carry the sak cliped to the back of my right pocket. The front is reserved for my phone.

The shortened and fake pocket wrench is normally in my left back pocket.

I still haven't gotten around to making a better sewing kit. The old one is on the keychain tucked in the black web tube held in by a chinese finger trap effect. And that's all for now. :D
Title: Re: My take on EDC (by lister)
Post by: lister on March 16, 2017, 02:57:09 PM
I am quite sure that most of us EDC/cellphones. In fact these gadgets are so omnipresent that most of us don't bother including them in our EDC threads. Besides what are those of us that don't own a camera supposed to use to take pictures of the EDC if our smartphone is part of the lineup?  :ahhh

But as it happens I use two phones, the main smartphone and another cheaper cell phone for when I want to go light or don't want to damage the expensive smartphone. I carry the one you can see in the attached picture (sak included for scale, picture taken with my cellphone). I hear that it is quite popular with certain population with limited mobility in the UK and that they tend to be somewhat anal retentive about them...
Title: Re: My take on EDC (by lister)
Post by: lister on March 28, 2017, 03:16:07 PM
To continue my monologue:

This is the wallet part of my edc, from left to right, top to bottom:

- I used to carry folded plastic bag for storing my smartphone in case of sky-sent-precipitation, but I upgraded it to a 1l whirlpool plastic bag intended for collecting laboratory samples. At least I think this is what it is, I actually bought it on Ebay form a guy that was selling it to survival kit builders. That was the only sane option, the other one being a 500 pc pack of them...  ::)

- Two aspirins. I wish they would be available in slimmer form for wallet carry...  :D

-Wallet mirror, not to keep myself looking good, as there is not much chance of that, but it helps me with my contact lenses from time to time. I never could get them in and out of my eyes without a mirror.

- A Fresnel lens, a piece of polarizing filter, and a piece of foil for magnetic field viewing I picked up while still in the university. The firs item gets some action, the second and the third not so much...  :ahhh

- I think that about 20 meters of kevlar thread.

- Some first aid items, iodine disinfection pads, some waterproof plasters, and forehead liquid crystal thermometer.

The green piece of spandex is a pouch everything in this picture, except for the plastic bag, resides in while not in use.
Title: Re: My take on EDC (by lister)
Post by: lister on April 03, 2017, 04:16:32 PM
Not strictly EDC, but does anyone else thinks this also applies to the field of EDC:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Feature_creep

 :climber: :multi: :gimme: :like:

 :D
Title: Re: My take on EDC (by lister)
Post by: Don Pablo on April 03, 2017, 04:37:25 PM
Thinking that you need more stuff for new niches? Oh yea.  :facepalm:  :rofl:

I used to use regular pens as I pleased....Didn't care Ballpoint vs Gel, etc. Now I want a pen for EDC, pen for figiting with, etc.  :facepalm: :facepalm:
Title: Re: My take on EDC (by lister)
Post by: lister on April 03, 2017, 04:39:49 PM
Well, the pen is mightier than the sword, so it makes sense to dedicate one to fighting.  :twak:

 :D
Title: Re: My take on EDC (by lister)
Post by: Don Pablo on April 03, 2017, 05:48:22 PM
Fidget! Sorry for my spelling, I meant fidgeting.  :facepalm:
Title: Re: My take on EDC (by lister)
Post by: lister on April 03, 2017, 06:04:40 PM
And sory for my reading or lack thereof...  :rofl:
Title: Re: My take on EDC (by lister)
Post by: lister on April 09, 2017, 02:00:52 PM
I bought myself a new watch. It's vostok amphibia. It is a fun cheap watch from Russia.

While it is by no means fancy, it has a few nice technological tricks for circumventing the weaknesses of it's materials and price point. It uses acrylic glass in the shape of a dome, so that the water pressure deforms it, and pushes it tighter in to the edges of the case to make a tighter waterproof seal. The back is not mad of one piece but is actually a kind of a cover held in place by another screw on ring. This is to enable the cover to pres more tightly to the sintered rubber to again seal the watch tighter as you dive lower and the water pressure increases. All this makes the watch water resistant to 200 m. It also has a crown connected to the watch mechanism via a clutch. The clutch engages when you pull the crown far enough out, all this is supposed to make the watch more resistant to shocks, as they are not directly transmitted to the watch stem.

It cost around 60 €.

Of course, if you are not familiar with this watch, don't trust my information, as I am not a watch expert. And anyways there is a lot of reviews on the internet.  :D
Title: Re: My take on EDC (by lister)
Post by: Vladimir on April 09, 2017, 03:04:35 PM
Blue Scuba Dude!
Nice watch, I have the same blue one myself.
Title: Re: My take on EDC (by lister)
Post by: lister on April 09, 2017, 04:16:52 PM
It is the scuba dude. Although in real life it looks more green than blue to me. But then again I was never too good with colors...  ::)
Title: Re: My take on EDC (by lister)
Post by: lister on July 16, 2018, 09:10:00 PM
Hm, since necromancy seems to back in vogue I'll do some myself. Granted it this is not one of the threads of historic importance and/or one of the really interesting ones, such as those that get necromanced by the boss but still. I really don't want to start a new one.  :D

Anyway this is my minimalistic edc I use in summer when clothes do not permit my usual EDC extravagance:

 
Title: Re: My take on EDC (by lister)
Post by: lister on July 16, 2018, 09:11:34 PM
And just for sake of comparison here is my current full blown edc:

Title: Re: My take on EDC (by lister)
Post by: lister on July 16, 2018, 09:12:05 PM
Now feel free to throw stones and such...


 :ahhh

 :D
Title: Re: My take on EDC (by lister)
Post by: ThePeacent on July 16, 2018, 09:13:50 PM
look good, love the variety of clip styles and shapes, you're the clip/hanger man!  :D :like:
and the gear is great of course  :cheers:

Minimal size but very capable!  :salute:
Title: Re: My take on EDC (by lister)
Post by: lister on July 16, 2018, 10:51:52 PM
look good, love the variety of clip styles and shapes, you're the clip/hanger man!  :D :like:
and the gear is great of course  :cheers:

Minimal size but very capable!  :salute:

True, I do like my edc well clipped.  :D