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Title: Gerber Flik?
Post by: Leatherman123 on January 08, 2008, 03:35:29 AM
Any idea when the Gerber Flik comes out? I hear Jan. 08 but any dates? I am really looking forward to this tool!
Title: Re: Gerber Flik?
Post by: Spoonrobot on January 10, 2008, 07:28:11 AM
Any idea when the Gerber Flik comes out? I hear Jan. 08 but any dates? I am really looking forward to this tool!

I checked the Gerber website, you should see the tool out around Fall 2007.

 :D
Title: Re: Gerber Flik?
Post by: J-sews on January 11, 2008, 04:41:07 AM
Any idea when the Gerber Flik comes out? I hear Jan. 08 but any dates? I am really looking forward to this tool!

I checked the Gerber website, you should see the tool out around Fall 2007.

 :D


Oh goody, I can hardly wait! :P
Title: Re: Gerber Flik?
Post by: damota on January 31, 2008, 12:58:53 AM


I checked the Gerber website, you should see the tool out around Fall 2007.

 :D

They must have got a wrong digit in there and meant Fall 3007

Dave
Title: Re: Gerber Flik?
Post by: EM745 on February 14, 2008, 11:44:26 PM
Any idea when the Gerber Flik comes out? I hear Jan. 08 but any dates? I am really looking forward to this tool!

Dunno about the US, but Canadian Tire's been stocking them for months now.
Title: Re: Gerber Flik?
Post by: Benner on February 14, 2008, 11:48:04 PM
Any idea when the Gerber Flik comes out? I hear Jan. 08 but any dates? I am really looking forward to this tool!

Dunno about the US, but Canadian Tire's been stocking them for months now.

You sure it's a Flik mate?
Title: Re: Gerber Flik?
Post by: Mike, Lord of the Spammers! on February 14, 2008, 11:49:27 PM
http://forum.multitool.org/index.php/topic,3681.0.html

Gerber flik :)
Title: Re: Gerber Flik?
Post by: EM745 on February 14, 2008, 11:52:18 PM
You sure it's a Flik mate?

Yep. Bought one last December.

Hard to miss the "Flik" stamped on its side.  :D
Title: Re: Gerber Flik?
Post by: Mike, Lord of the Spammers! on February 14, 2008, 11:54:55 PM
They kept that one quiet then ::)

Not seen hide nor hare of it this side of the pond.
Title: Re: Gerber Flik?
Post by: Benner on February 14, 2008, 11:57:32 PM
They kept that one quiet then ::)

Not seen hide nor hare of it this side of the pond.

Must have kept it quiet from Def as well.
Title: Re: Gerber Flik?
Post by: Leatherman123 on February 15, 2008, 01:24:16 AM
How much did you pay for it? Lastly can you take a pic?
Title: Re: Gerber Flik?
Post by: Grant Lamontagne on February 15, 2008, 01:49:09 AM
Guess I'm off to Canadian Tire tomorrow then! :D

Def
Title: Re: Gerber Flik?
Post by: EM745 on February 15, 2008, 12:26:59 PM
How much did you pay for it?
$90 CAD + tax.

That may seem like a lot compared to US quotes from various online dealers, but when you factor in shipping and the (almost) inevitable duty fee, then it's not so bad. Plus I had about $8.50 of that "Canadian Tire" money.  :D

Usually, before buying ANYTHING from CT, I wait for one of their sales. But in the case of these hi-end multi-tools, I figured I'd have to wait quite a while, as these kinds of items rarely--if ever--come on sale at CT.

Lastly can you take a pic?

Sure, I can take a pic......... OH! You mean can I take a pic of the Flik? (Heh, a Flik-pic!  :D ) I'll see what I can do...
Title: Re: Gerber Flik?
Post by: Mike, Lord of the Spammers! on February 15, 2008, 12:29:29 PM
Look forward to seeing the pictures mate :)

And it look as though you got a good price on it to!
Title: Re: Gerber Flik?
Post by: EM745 on February 15, 2008, 03:02:04 PM
Well, here are my Flik-pics. For comparison, many of these are with everyone's favorite whipping boy, the Suspension.

(http://img259.imageshack.us/img259/7715/14ay4.jpg)

(http://img259.imageshack.us/img259/2149/15ir6.jpg)

(http://img150.imageshack.us/img150/5930/03et4.jpg)

(http://img221.imageshack.us/img221/4199/04ls9.jpg)

(http://img221.imageshack.us/img221/1619/05ub1.jpg)

Flik on the left.
(http://img514.imageshack.us/img514/6937/06yq0.jpg)

Again, Flik on the left.
(http://img516.imageshack.us/img516/2713/07gi2.jpg)

(http://img514.imageshack.us/img514/9678/08eu1.jpg)

This one makes me laugh for some reason.  :D
(http://img227.imageshack.us/img227/7897/09za3.jpg)

The Flik's Wharncliffe is VERY pointy!
(http://img227.imageshack.us/img227/7029/10ny5.jpg)

(http://img168.imageshack.us/img168/1118/11bp7.jpg)

(http://img168.imageshack.us/img168/5807/12ka9.jpg)

(http://img132.imageshack.us/img132/1487/13lk4.jpg)

The Flik's holster, while certainly not cheaply made, lacks the Suspension's "hard molded" fabrication and horizontal loops.
(http://img155.imageshack.us/img155/9935/01ob9.jpg)

(http://img150.imageshack.us/img150/1420/02hu8.jpg)
Title: Re: Gerber Flik?
Post by: Mike, Lord of the Spammers! on February 15, 2008, 03:43:49 PM
Now that is a fine looking tool :multi:

Thanks for the pictures mate, and yeah the suspention's saw doesn't look to well endowed does it ;) :D
Title: Re: Gerber Flik?
Post by: Grant Lamontagne on February 15, 2008, 06:03:00 PM
The man knows what he's talking about- I am also the proud owner of a new Gerber Flik!

I'll put up a full review in a few days, but one interesting thing on the package that I thought was noteworthy is a small tag that says:
"TOOL AND SHEATH MADE IN CHINA
JAWS MADE IN TAIWAN"

So far it seems to be on par with the MP600 (more or less) but time will tell.

Def
Title: Re: Gerber Flik?
Post by: Mike, Lord of the Spammers! on February 15, 2008, 06:08:54 PM
I'll be looking forward to the review of that one mate :)
Title: Re: Gerber Flik?
Post by: Roadie on February 15, 2008, 06:13:53 PM
Hadn't realised all the tools were outside opening (i'm a bit slow sometimes!) It looks a very nice tool though, although the drivers do look a little suspicious, wonder if MP400/600 drivers could be transplanted into it?

Roadie
Title: Re: Gerber Flik?
Post by: Grant Lamontagne on February 15, 2008, 06:16:46 PM
I think Bob hit the nail on the head in his mention of it from the SHOT Show- the pliers seem done well, but the screwdrivers are microscopic, a common problem amongst Gerbers.  The good news is that all of the implements are accessible from the outside, and they also all lock.  The only thing you have to open the pliers for is... the pliers!

The double lock/non hand pinching mechanism takes a little getting used to though.  I'll probably have to do a video on that because it's a little hard to describe, even in pictures....

I have an MP600 sitting here next to the Flik and I'd say I doubt such a surgery would be possible since (believe it or not!) the MP600's implements are somewhat larger than the Flik's!

Def
Title: Re: Gerber Flik?
Post by: Mike, Lord of the Spammers! on February 15, 2008, 06:19:31 PM

I have an MP600 sitting here next to the Flik and I'd say I doubt such a surgery would be possible since (believe it or not!) the MP600's implements are somewhat larger than the Flik's!

Def
Really, that seems a bit of a backwood step :-\
Title: Re: Gerber Flik?
Post by: Roadie on February 15, 2008, 06:19:53 PM
Is it the width thats the problem or the length of them? (or the depth, or the hole diameter.....) Width shouldn't be too much of a problem (just sacrifice a couple of drivers for one) What type of fasteners are used on the Flik, they look like torx?
Title: Re: Gerber Flik?
Post by: Grant Lamontagne on February 15, 2008, 06:33:01 PM
They are indeed Torx- the problem is the length.  I'll try to get some pictures to illustrate what I mean, but the tools are packed in pretty tightly- there isn't more than 1mm between the end of the implements and the base of the lock mechanism.  I'd say you could maybe stretch that by 1 or even 2mm without messing up the lock, but there is a brace for the frame underneath it.  You would need at least 3mm more space to add in the tools from the MP600, and that's assuming everything else is even.

Def
Title: Re: Gerber Flik?
Post by: damota on February 15, 2008, 08:37:30 PM
They are indeed Torx- the problem is the length.  I'll try to get some pictures to illustrate what I mean, but the tools are packed in pretty tightly- there isn't more than 1mm between the end of the implements and the base of the lock mechanism.  I'd say you could maybe stretch that by 1 or even 2mm without messing up the lock, but there is a brace for the frame underneath it.  You would need at least 3mm more space to add in the tools from the MP600, and that's assuming everything else is even.

Def

I think if there was any possibility those litle driver would not be there because Gerber would have used the ready designed ones! They look to be the same as the Freeman ones if not a little shorter. Now if you had a Freehand to compare with it, that could prove interesting.

Dave
Title: Re: Gerber Flik?
Post by: EM745 on February 15, 2008, 08:55:05 PM
 :oops:

*EDITED*

Forgot to check the Freehand's length. It's almost an inch longer than the Flik.  :o

Forget I said anything.  :angel:
Title: Re: Gerber Flik?
Post by: Grant Lamontagne on February 15, 2008, 09:52:58 PM
Are they?  Or do they just appear that way since the Freehand is a much larger tool?

Def
Title: Re: Gerber Flik?
Post by: EM745 on February 15, 2008, 10:07:52 PM
Are they?  Or do they just appear that way since the Freehand is a much larger tool?

Def

Thx. Deleted my post seeing as the pic I put up was of no value.

Didn't realize the Freehand was almost an inch longer.
Title: Re: Gerber Flik?
Post by: Mike, Lord of the Spammers! on February 15, 2008, 10:12:37 PM
It looked cool while it lasted though :)
Title: Re: Gerber Flik?
Post by: hawkchucker on February 15, 2008, 10:16:32 PM
Wow after really looking at the picks closer. I dont like the saw and the tools are well kinda flimsy looking. However I still like the blade! Its about time to have a warncliff blade with substance! However I might just go to the freehand and get a bigger blade.
Title: Re: Gerber Flik?
Post by: Spoonrobot on February 15, 2008, 11:03:59 PM
Thanks for the pics EM745!

I'm liking the Flik the more I see of it. Can't wait to try out that saw, the point looks like it will be good for popping holes in sheetrock.

They really need to pop a file in there instead of the serrated blade, make it more full-featured. Although it's nice to not have a ruler on it.
Title: Re: Gerber Flik?
Post by: Mike, Lord of the Spammers! on February 15, 2008, 11:07:05 PM
I'd of prefered a file too ::), it would make for a more versatile tool.
Title: Re: Gerber Flik?
Post by: Benner on February 16, 2008, 12:28:06 AM
Great pics EM745.  Thanks for taking the time to show us.  :)
Title: Re: Gerber Flik?
Post by: damota on February 16, 2008, 01:06:28 AM
Wow after really looking at the picks closer. I dont like the saw and the tools are well kinda flimsy looking. However I still like the blade! Its about time to have a warncliff blade with substance! However I might just go to the freehand and get a bigger blade.

The Freehand is a lot heavier. There will be nothing 'flimsy' with the steel on the tools. They may be short but once you use the bit adapter on the philips you have a very usable screw driver that can have any bit (rubber holder holds 9) in use one handed.
The good thing about that head design is you hold the upper arm (either one) and give it a flick, the head slides down and the weight of the tools open the other arm into the working position. Stretch your fingers down to get the loose arm and the tool is ready to work. Very fast.
I agree with others that a file would have been better than the saw but I have MP600 with the saw adapter so  any type of dedicated saw I do not really need. Mainly use fine tooth metal saws anyhow any wood cutting I use an electric.

Dave
Title: Re: Gerber Flik?
Post by: edap617 on February 16, 2008, 01:10:54 AM
Is this tool made in USA?
Title: Re: Gerber Flik?
Post by: Spoonrobot on February 16, 2008, 01:17:16 AM
As per Def's post earlier; the tool is made in China but the jaws are made in Taiwan. Interesting set-up, I wonder why they went that route.

OT: The Freehand is a Chinese tool also, right?

My packaging says the Freehand is assembled in the USA, has that changed or have they just changed the packaging recently?
Title: Re: Gerber Flik?
Post by: J-sews on February 16, 2008, 02:09:00 AM
At the Gerber Shot Show booth, the guy told us that the 600's, 400's, and the Diesel were made in the US, with everything else being imported. :(
Title: Re: Gerber Flik?
Post by: hawkchucker on February 16, 2008, 02:15:01 AM
They most likely just went with the venders that could supply the parts th cheapest, and have it all shipped back to the states for final assembly. 

That is supposed to calm the Patriotic. "Assembled in the USA with foriegn parts"  I guess It is almost as good as "Made in the  USA" 
Title: Re: Gerber Flik?
Post by: edap617 on February 16, 2008, 02:18:28 AM
They most likely just went with the venders that could supply the parts th cheapest, and have it all shipped back to the states for final assembly. 

That is supposed to calm the Patriotic. "Assembled in the USA with foriegn parts"  I guess It is almost as good as "Made in the  USA" 

Usually the cheapest parts are not the best. I prefer tools with all parts made in the USA even if there is a substantial cost difference.
Title: Re: Gerber Flik?
Post by: Spoonrobot on February 16, 2008, 02:21:31 AM
At the Gerber Shot Show booth, the guy told us that the 600's, 400's, and the Diesel were made in the US, with everything else being imported. :(

So long as the quality is up to par I am indifferent to country manufacture. I would like to know a little bit more about where in the country the tools are made, it ads an air of soul to the tool.

However, if those mushy philips drivers and the fish scaler start popping up again I'm hightailing it to another company.
Title: Re: Gerber Flik?
Post by: hawkchucker on February 16, 2008, 02:22:32 AM
Agreed. I really find it repulsive that these companies are going to that route. It is hard to beat the manufacturing process that can be accomplished now in the states.  
Title: Re: Gerber Flik?
Post by: Sea Monster on February 16, 2008, 08:56:32 AM
Quote
Agreed. I really find it repulsive that these companies are going to that route. It is hard to beat the manufacturing process that can be accomplished now in the states. 

I'm a sucker for German Engineering (http://www.hazet.de/en.html)

I've seen some nice things come out of Taiwan, but it seems to be a bit of a gamble even within the same box of 12.
The Quality can obviously be achieved, but as has been pointed out before - there is no control, so there is no consistency - I'd hate to cough up $160 on a multi and hope it was the 1 in a dozen that came out tops.
Title: Re: Gerber Flik?
Post by: hawkchucker on February 16, 2008, 01:00:45 PM
I actually have nothign for gear or cutlery from Germany. Not even a car!

It snt political or anythign just never got around to it, plus they charge a fortune forthier swag.
Title: Re: Gerber Flik?
Post by: damota on February 16, 2008, 03:18:15 PM
They most likely just went with the venders that could supply the parts th cheapest, and have it all shipped back to the states for final assembly. 

That is supposed to calm the Patriotic. "Assembled in the USA with foriegn parts"  I guess It is almost as good as "Made in the  USA" 

Usually the cheapest parts are not the best. I prefer tools with all parts made in the USA even if there is a substantial cost difference.

Seeing as Gerber is now owned by Fiskars I wish they used more Sandvik steel.
The majority of tool/knife parts are imported because the US steel makers (and UK steel makers) priced themselves out of the market. If QC is kept up (unlike what is happening with the butterfly tools) there is nothing wrong with imported steel look at ZDP-189
http://www.cutleryscience.com/reviews/blade_materials.html#S_ZDP189
A Japanese steel that has good potentials as a blade steel as good probably better than most S/S before it but at a price equal to its purpose so sales will be limited and knives made with this steel will be carried to a certain extent by knives of poorer quality at a lower price.

Dave