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Title: Artisan
Post by: GigaHz on November 04, 2012, 12:59:53 PM
Do I see one there?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/190747428726?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/190747428726?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649)
Title: Re: Artisan
Post by: Syph007 on November 04, 2012, 01:48:54 PM
Sure looks like it, an 84 with scissors doesnt show up that often.  Thats alot of money for the condition of those SAKs though.. at least in my opinion.  I mostly hunt down swiss champs lately though, that part cost works out best that way.
Title: Re: Artisan
Post by: dagelias on November 04, 2012, 06:32:21 PM
and they are all mine... ;)  :mail:
Title: Re: Artisan
Post by: ColoSwiss on November 04, 2012, 09:10:52 PM
and they are all mine... ;)  :mail:

Congratulations on the win.  :tu:
Title: Re: Artisan
Post by: ironraven on November 05, 2012, 03:53:30 AM
We demand pictures once you've cleaned it up! The Artisan is one I've been looking for for years.
Title: Re: Artisan
Post by: dagelias on November 05, 2012, 11:07:43 PM
 :sak:
and they are all mine... ;)  :mail:

Congratulations on the win.  :tu:

thanks!

We demand pictures once you've cleaned it up! The Artisan is one I've been looking for for years.


ya, I will post some pictures! ;)
 
Title: Re: Artisan
Post by: ColoSwiss on November 05, 2012, 11:18:39 PM
While I'm digging out names, the 'Artisan' was more commonly known as the 'Craftsman', 17-014. The horn-handled version was known as the 'Golfer' (where have I heard that name before?).
Title: Re: Artisan
Post by: jazzbass on November 05, 2012, 11:47:55 PM
While I'm digging out names, the 'Artisan' was more commonly known as the 'Craftsman', 17-014. The horn-handled version was known as the 'Golfer' (where have I heard that name before?).

Yep - I have the same info. These are actually the most common of the 4+ layer 84mm knives and I've managed to find some either with their original box or NIB. The one box from the early 1950s and the one from the mid 1960s are both marked "Craftsman". All the US catalogs I've seen call it a Craftsman. "Artisan" comes from the French-Canadian translations, and has become a good "collector's name" for these, as there are already two 91mm variants also called "Craftsman". The "Salesman" is another example of this - these knives were almost always sold as a "Super Tinker", but Salesman is a good name to use to avoid confusion with the modern 91mm model of the same name.

If you see "Artisan" or "Salesman" in an eBay ad, there's a good chance the seller is either a member here or they get their info from SakWiki.
Title: Re: Artisan
Post by: ICanFixThat on November 06, 2012, 12:27:13 AM
While I'm digging out names, the 'Artisan' was more commonly known as the 'Craftsman', 17-014. The horn-handled version was known as the 'Golfer' (where have I heard that name before?).

Yep - I have the same info. These are actually the most common of the 4+ layer 84mm knives and I've managed to find some either with their original box or NIB. The one box from the early 1950s and the one from the mid 1960s are both marked "Craftsman". All the US catalogs I've seen call it a Craftsman. "Artisan" comes from the French-Canadian translations, and has become a good "collector's name" for these, as there are already two 91mm variants also called "Craftsman". The "Salesman" is another example of this - these knives were almost always sold as a "Super Tinker", but Salesman is a good name to use to avoid confusion with the modern 91mm model of the same name.

If you see "Artisan" or "Salesman" in an eBay ad, there's a good chance the seller is either a member here or they get their info from SakWiki.
I agree with the above (a little iffy on the Golfer designation though), but I just want to clarify that there seems to be quite a few boxes also labeled Artisan.
Title: Re: Artisan
Post by: ironraven on November 06, 2012, 12:34:16 AM
They are also sometimes called the Fieldmaster (Small), but that sounds like midget backwoods rapper.

Title: Re: Artisan
Post by: Sazabi on November 06, 2012, 02:00:06 AM
They are also sometimes called the Fieldmaster (Small), but that sounds like midget backwoods rapper.

Yep, that's what the only boxed one I came across was named. :tu:
Title: Re: Artisan
Post by: ColoSwiss on November 06, 2012, 03:06:14 AM
While I'm digging out names, the 'Artisan' was more commonly known as the 'Craftsman', 17-014. The horn-handled version was known as the 'Golfer' (where have I heard that name before?).

Yep - I have the same info. These are actually the most common of the 4+ layer 84mm knives and I've managed to find some either with their original box or NIB. The one box from the early 1950s and the one from the mid 1960s are both marked "Craftsman". All the US catalogs I've seen call it a Craftsman. "Artisan" comes from the French-Canadian translations, and has become a good "collector's name" for these, as there are already two 91mm variants also called "Craftsman". The "Salesman" is another example of this - these knives were almost always sold as a "Super Tinker", but Salesman is a good name to use to avoid confusion with the modern 91mm model of the same name.

If you see "Artisan" or "Salesman" in an eBay ad, there's a good chance the seller is either a member here or they get their info from SakWiki.
I agree with the above (a little iffy on the Golfer designation though), but I just want to clarify that there seems to be quite a few boxes also labeled Artisan.

This apparently came from some catalog, but I don't know exactly what. The use of 'bone' rather than 'horn' may be indicative.

Title: Re: Artisan
Post by: ColoSwiss on November 06, 2012, 03:20:30 AM
Found it (page 4). Scanned by a certain individual who's memory is almost as bad as mine.  :D

(Getting old is rough, but it beats the alternative)

http://www.sakwiki.com/tiki-browse_gallery.php?galleryId=90 (http://www.sakwiki.com/tiki-browse_gallery.php?galleryId=90)
Title: Re: Artisan
Post by: ICanFixThat on November 07, 2012, 02:55:55 AM
Found it (page 4). Scanned by a certain individual who's memory is almost as bad as mine.  :D

(Getting old is rough, but it beats the alternative)

http://www.sakwiki.com/tiki-browse_gallery.php?galleryId=90 (http://www.sakwiki.com/tiki-browse_gallery.php?galleryId=90)
Oh that one, sounded like you had other references as well.  Maybe like "bone" this is just a catalog printing error, although the other weird names in the catalog have proven to be accurate for the region.   :salute:
Title: Re: Artisan
Post by: MARIOS7319 on November 08, 2012, 01:03:07 AM
and they are all mine... ;)  :mail:
I really want to see the photos of them.
Title: Re: Artisan
Post by: dagelias on November 14, 2012, 03:24:25 PM
So the knives came today! I`ll probable post pictures Friday! ;)
Title: Re: Artisan
Post by: jazzbass on November 14, 2012, 03:55:26 PM
So the knives came today! I`ll probable post pictures Friday! ;)

The Artisan - which saw does it have? 35 tooth polished, 35 tooth unpolished, or 25 tooth unpolished?
Title: Re: Artisan
Post by: dagelias on November 14, 2012, 09:00:14 PM
So the knives came today! I`ll probable post pictures Friday! ;)

The Artisan - which saw does it have? 35 tooth polished, 35 tooth unpolished, or 25 tooth unpolished?

25 tooth, and it looks polished... It is probably not  ???
Title: Re: Artisan
Post by: jazzbass on November 14, 2012, 09:50:33 PM
25 tooth, and it looks polished... It is probably not  ???

I doubt it. I've never seen a polished 25 tooth saw. Victorinox stopped polishing the saws in the early 1960s, before the current saw designs came out. I've never seen the 84mm 25 tooth saw and the 91mm symmetric 27 tooth saws in full polish. You'll find the previous versions - the 84mm 35 tooth saw and the 91mm asymmetric 27 tooth saw - in both polished and unpolished versions.
Title: Re: Artisan
Post by: dagelias on November 17, 2012, 04:04:37 PM
So here is the ARTISAN:
 :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D
Title: Re: Artisan
Post by: dagelias on November 17, 2012, 04:05:58 PM
Some more pic:
Title: Re: Artisan
Post by: dagelias on November 17, 2012, 04:06:54 PM
And some more!
Title: Re: Artisan
Post by: dagelias on November 17, 2012, 04:07:39 PM
okay last pic... ;)
Title: Re: Artisan
Post by: ironraven on November 18, 2012, 06:09:07 AM
If they brought that back, especially with a keyring, they'd be able to sell a lot of them.

Such a sadness.