Post by: LoopCutter on October 11, 2017, 07:42:43 PM
On my new OHT, there is a gap when the jaws are closed caused by the 2 flat tips of the jaws, this prevents you from holding 18g or smaller wire as I do frequently. See picture below.
Is this normal?
Has any one filed the tips down to improve the grip? If so will he pliers close further or are they restricted by the handle stop?
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Post by: pietervn on October 11, 2017, 09:56:43 PM
Perfectly normal, mine is like that too.
Pete
Post by: Poncho65 on October 12, 2017, 01:01:05 AM
Post by: Aloha on October 12, 2017, 01:08:44 AM
Post by: gerleatherberman on October 12, 2017, 06:33:48 AM
Post by: LoopCutter on October 12, 2017, 06:53:44 AM
I just thought it was important to have a greater mind to provide confirming feedback.
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Post by: Syncop8r on October 12, 2017, 09:48:43 AM
Post by: Etherealicer on October 12, 2017, 10:28:37 AM
I wondered if it makes the tips always meet if there are slight inconsistencies. :think:I think that is it... you can always rely on having full force on the grip, if you need to grab something small/thin. When the object gets larger it does not matter anymore. Not a pliers expert, but I found that to be a good design (the Spirit has that too).
Post by: Kev D on October 12, 2017, 10:35:44 AM
Post by: LoopCutter on October 12, 2017, 06:12:57 PM
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171012/fa92cb851f9dfebbae82fadc6da03194.jpg)SOG Paratool, top and bottom groves intermesh. Some precise tooling.
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171012/e39a2bc56923e7bfc6a5c03242d02507.jpg)Rebar, a good fit as well.
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171012/a65cb8cc271ca89d664f6b34dcbc11d6.jpg)Wingman
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171012/889c0b0328a7aeb9d9f129d77438bb8b.jpg)Wave
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171012/5352793eb9e798a25608494b1ff0bd25.jpg)larger needle nose tool
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171012/ce74387e98a8b40c3fb952f73a331fe7.jpg)medium needle nose
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171012/b8e6a3da546630b4f3acb2d5e29401f4.jpg)small needle nose
Now curious why the newer tools have a tapered gap from nose to Center?
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Post by: gerleatherberman on October 12, 2017, 06:46:15 PM
Very interesting!
Post by: AimlessWanderer on October 12, 2017, 07:30:48 PM
Now curious why the newer tools have a tapered gap from nose to Center?
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It minimises the angle the other way. If you imagine that at a certain point of opening, the jaws will be parallel, any opening beyond that point is at a lesser angle than it would be should the pliers be parallel when closed
Post by: LoopCutter on October 12, 2017, 08:47:05 PM
It minimizes the angle the other way. If you imagine that at a certain point of opening, the jaws will be parallel, any opening beyond that point is at a lesser angle than it would be should the pliers be parallel when closedAt first, when I read your reply, I thought, “huh!”
Then I thought about slip joint pliers, the heads are kept parallel by moving the head between the two pivots. The same for Channel lock style pliers and even Vice Grips.
The pliers hold the material better, applying even pressure when the tips are parallel or less. If the material is bigger and does not permit that parallel closure, failure is more likely to occur, and bigger tool is a better option.
I am only a tech, and you sir must be an ENGINEER or a HOUSEWIFE!
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Post by: AimlessWanderer on October 12, 2017, 08:57:50 PM
It minimizes the angle the other way. If you imagine that at a certain point of opening, the jaws will be parallel, any opening beyond that point is at a lesser angle than it would be should the pliers be parallel when closedAt first, when I read your reply, I thought, “huh!”
Then I thought about slip joint pliers, the heads are kept parallel by moving the head between the two pivots. The same for Channel lock style pliers and even Vice Grips.
The pliers hold the material better, applying even pressure when the tips are parallel or less. If the material is bigger and does not permit that parallel closure, failure is more likely to occur, and bigger tool is a better option.
I am only a tech, and you sir must be an ENGINEER or a HOUSEWIFE!
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25 years in heavy engineering.
The more parallel the pliers are, the better the purchase on the material being gripped.
I have no idea why that would make me a housewife.
Post by: LoopCutter on October 12, 2017, 09:06:07 PM
I was attempting a bit of humor.
25 years in heavy engineering.
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I have no idea why that would make me a housewife.
A plague in our home reads - “If at first you do not succeed, do it the way your WIFE told you to do it!”
My humble apologies if I offended you!
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Post by: AimlessWanderer on October 12, 2017, 09:08:16 PM
Not offended, just confused :D
Post by: Syncop8r on October 12, 2017, 09:46:11 PM
Post by: LoopCutter on October 12, 2017, 10:51:46 PM
My money was on housewife. :whistle: :pok:So was mine, I get all frustrated communicating with engineers! ;)
Housewife is easier as they understand, unless it is YOURS!
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Post by: SteveC on October 12, 2017, 11:11:00 PM
Post by: magentus on October 16, 2017, 10:50:13 AM
You have the plague in your household :ahhh Medic! :DI was attempting a bit of humor.
25 years in heavy engineering.
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I have no idea why that would make me a housewife.
A plague in our home reads - “If at first you do not succeed, do it the way your WIFE told you to do it!”
My humble apologies if I offended you!
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Post by: Poncho65 on October 16, 2017, 11:35:32 AM
:facepalm:
:rofl: