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Tool Talk => SOG Tool Forum => Topic started by: mulou on March 28, 2017, 08:11:25 AM
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Somehow there's no SOG Sync thread so I though I'd just make one and hopefully that's ok.
I just got myself the SOG Sync I because I was curious and uhm, I guess I had enough money for gadgets around. I also had a belt with a broken buckle and though it'd be fun to try it...
So, I got the SOG Sync I (https://www.sogknives.com/sync-i.html) (there's also https://www.sogknives.com/sync-ii.html) (and more pics here from our fearless MT emperor: https://forum.multitool.org/index.php/topic,71026.0.html)
And that's mine :climber::
(http://i.imgur.com/CuKnpP7.jpg)
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Please excuse the pictures of my pants.. lol. I wanted to see how it looks like as actual belt buckle and could not find anything demo'ing that so here goes:
Buckle closed.. notice how there is no actual buckle though that's not a problem, and you could had some retainer if you wanted.
(side 1, pin against belly)
(http://i.imgur.com/Mz5PZQP.jpg)
(side 2, pin outwards, more comfy and easier to put on)
(http://i.imgur.com/jSwLb08.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/wxnUEMN.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/f1gxk6d.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/n3uzzE2.jpg)
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Quick review of the thing:
- It actually works well as a buckle. I was surprised. I expected it to not be really usable, or be bulky or what not. I could totally use that as daily belt and not even notice.
- Sliding the tool in/out is also easy (though I had read that it was the case ahead of time)
- I did have to sew the belt on (since its a simple loop you have to do that actually, which is what the manual hints at, so if you can't sew you better have some other solution in mind :)
- Knife is tiny but otherwise great, super sharp out of the box
- Awl is great as usual with SOG - made the belt hole with it of course...
- The screw drivers are alright - haven't tried the beer opener yet ;-)
- Not sure how cool or terribly uncool you look when you remove the tool out of your belt buckle to open a beer.. might depend on the state you live in :whistle:
- The file is just like the powerplier (which I also have), just smaller. Personally, I don't really like it, it's not very effective though it does the job. Leatherman's much better in my opinion.
- All tools lock in place just fine (it unlocks just by force) and there's no play anywhere
- Pliers work also just fine, no play, which is nice for pliers for this size. My skeletool has more play.
- The little Skull logo is cool.
- Clip seems to work alright and is quite large, which I like because that means you can clip on your backpack without the tool falling. I removed it for the buckle though. Also, the base that you slide the tool on is a tad heavy for a backpack (its heavier than the tool), though I can't really feel it as a buckle.[/li][/list]
So, so far I like it. Not sure how long I'll play with it (i want scissors and a proper file!) but, it's definitely a nice one! Maybe I should get the Sync II...
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:cheers:
Has anyone posted pictures of them with other MTs? :think:
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Can also wear it like that - without sewing - but it slips (mine is a sewed loop because of that, not a big deal though)
(http://i.imgur.com/aLbwSng.png)
Next to a power assist, skeletool cx, squirt es4 (you can guess which one is my daily driver by the wear on the plates lol):
(http://i.imgur.com/igwoUQr.jpg)
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:salute:
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Great Pics, I've got one of each winging their way to me at the moment :mail:
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Great Pics, I've got one of each winging their way to me at the moment :mail:
nice :) I'm curious how you'll like the Sync II. I'm still thinking about it. Looks a little big but.. scissors!! (and they seem to be as good quality as the leathermans - I don't like their power assist/etc scissors)
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Great Pics, I've got one of each winging their way to me at the moment :mail:
nice :) I'm curious how you'll like the Sync II. I'm still thinking about it. Looks a little big but.. scissors!! (and they seem to be as good quality as the leathermans - I don't like their power assist/etc scissors)
They are coming from Canada to the UK so will be another week yet I'm guessing
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Great pics and write up :salute: some of these new SOG's have sure gotten my attention lately :dd: :like: :like:
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I like them.
hat having been said, they don't compare to a Wave or a Spirit etc, but then they are not supposed to. They are light duty tools that are designed to be easy to carry so that you can be sure than you have them when you need them. Compare it to a Blast or an MP600 and you will probably be disappointed in them, but if you take them at face value based on what they can do and how convenient they are to carry around I think the average person would be pretty impressed.
Plus, the way they come off and on the buckle is secure, effective and, pretty cool too, although the cast buckle does seem to be overly heavy for little to no good reason- IMHO. They could have used aluminum or a high density plastic and it would have worked just as well, again in my opinion. Maybe there's a reason they didn't- cost or perhaps no benefit to longevity, I don't know, but that's my only real drawback on them.
Def
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I thought more of comparing them with a squirt (with longer handles) but with the added benefit of being able to wear them as a belt buckle or clip to a bag strap. That's what I ordered them for anyway, one to have as a belt buckle, the other to clip to the strap of my poo pickup bag/dog treat/water/travel bowl carrying bag for when I walk my dog. I'll have a sak as a minimum in my pocket anyway, but you never know when one will come in handy.
I'd rather have it and not need it, than need it and not have it as the saying goes.
Plus I think they look cool :tu:
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Plus, the way they come off and on the buckle is secure, effective and, pretty cool too, although the cast buckle does seem to be overly heavy for little to no good reason- IMHO. They could have used aluminum or a high density plastic and it would have worked just as well, again in my opinion. Maybe there's a reason they didn't- cost or perhaps no benefit to longevity, I don't know, but that's my only real drawback on them.
Yeah that echo's my thoughts on the buckle. When you have it on you don't feel it too much, but it was surprisingly heavy. Heck I'm wearing it right now :multi:
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Mine have arrived today. I have only had time to take them out their parcels and snap a quick pic so far though
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I had a chance to open them and have a first look impression last night. I unclipped them from the base a few times, opened every tool and had a quick look and feel of them.
Straight out the box the sync I was very oily so needed a wipe down to remove the excess, other than that it feels nice, not too stiff and the release mechanism from the base is smooth and very easy to use. I compared it to my normal belt buckle and it's a tiny bit smaller by all of a couple mm, so will be prefect size for one. The sync II out the box was again very oily so needed the excess removing, but when opening and closing the pliers it feels gritty and the tools are a very stiff to open and close, but it's brand new and not the first time I've got a new tool like this. A bit of cleaning and a tweak will soon have it as smooth as the sync I.
Both feel well built, and the sync II feels huge compared to the sync I. I am a bit disappointed in the scissors on the sync II, they are the same size as the ones in the leatherman wave/knifeless rebar/charges, but lack the flat on the moving handle to make it comfy on your thumb. They work well but if you needed to use them for long you'd certainly have a sore spot on your thumb. The locking mechanism for the small tools is different to anything else I have seen as well. In each handle there is a black tool that you have to half deploy to lift the locking mechanism. It's all a bit stiff at the mo but I'll soon adjust that.
And yes I know that...
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I just got to work and wanted to get a first impression posted while my coffee brews. I'll add pics with side my side comparison to my rebar later, and when I have used them for a while I'll add a review in the reviews thread. First impression though is pretty good really.
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:popcorn:
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Just a few more pics for now...
Side by side with tools deployed - the black ones on the Sync II are the ones you have to half deploy to release the lock mechanism for the blade and scissors
(https://c2.staticflickr.com/4/3855/33753625225_776f582caf_b.jpg)
Side by side size comparison with a closed knifeless rebar
(https://c1.staticflickr.com/3/2854/33712944456_ac2ffe0fcc_b.jpg)
Side by side open comparison
(https://c2.staticflickr.com/4/3937/33597477942_726a737f0a_b.jpg)
Scissors comparison
(https://c2.staticflickr.com/4/3791/33597558232_f591192f6e_b.jpg)
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If any more people that own LM mini and the new SOG offerings wants to do a comparison I am all ears... :multi:
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If any more people that own LM mini and the new SOG offerings wants to do a comparison I am all ears... :multi:
:cheers:
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I hope to give the Sync I and II at some point God willing, love the idea. It's like a Leatherman tread for your belt
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Just got mine today and decided to clip it to my belt.
One word: versatile.
Packed with features and customizing is easy. My first act was to extend the pliers to see just what we were dealing with. I then tested the soft wire cutter on some cardboard - it cut terrifically.
While perhaps not the most comfortable pliers for heavy gripping, they are otherwise long enough for my hand and easy to operate. Dare I say these remind me of the skeletool pliers :facepalm:
The inside components:
With the exception of the knife, I found opening most of the implements to be quite difficult.... nail-breakers, if you will... The locking mechanism on the knife, file, and scissors, requires another item to be partially opened to release the lock - and NOW you can close all items.
The scissors seem adequate and sharp, however I do worry about the spring which follows a similar design to Gerber Dime, Leatherman PS4 and others with a history of breakage.
The Phillips and flat driver appear Ok, but I am concerned they do not lock open.
Those are some initial thoughts, I'll check back in at a later time to say how it's held up to some use. :tu:
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Some good thoughts sawman :like: :like:
Just now seeing those comparison shots Kevin and with them along side the Rebar I can now get a good picture of the scale of them in my head :cheers: :cheers: :like:
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If any more people that own LM mini and the new SOG offerings wants to do a comparison I am all ears... :multi:
:cheers:
I am all ears for this as well :D :tu:
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I decided to wear my Sync II as a belt buckle. I was going to use the Sync I for this, but it was a bit tight on my leather belt and the pin didn't retain properly in the punched holes. The Sync II is a little wide for the belt, but retains perfectly
(https://c1.staticflickr.com/3/2842/33758817531_9d19a035bc_b.jpg)
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Some good thoughts sawman :like: :like:
Just now seeing those comparison shots Kevin and with them along side the Rebar I can now get a good picture of the scale of them in my head :cheers: :cheers: :like:
Thanks Poncho! I really like this tool and think there is some epic potential here. The sheer fiddle-factor alone is reason enough to check one out :multi:
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Just back from a few days without any internet so I'm catching up. Cheers for the thoughts and photos gents. :cheers:
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I hope to give the Sync I and II at some point God willing, love the idea. It's like a Leatherman tread for your belt
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Don't say that too loud or next year Leatherman will release a belt. :ahhh
Def
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I hope to give the Sync I and II at some point God willing, love the idea. It's like a Leatherman tread for your belt
Sent from my SM-T377V using Tapatalk
Don't say that too loud or next year Leatherman will release a belt. :ahhh
Def
The Leatherbelt?
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I hope to give the Sync I and II at some point God willing, love the idea. It's like a Leatherman tread for your belt
Sent from my SM-T377V using Tapatalk
Don't say that too loud or next year Leatherman will release a belt. :ahhh
Def
The Leatherbelt?
As long as it's made from better leather than their pouches are. ::)
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I hope to give the Sync I and II at some point God willing, love the idea. It's like a Leatherman tread for your belt
Sent from my SM-T377V using Tapatalk
Don't say that too loud or next year Leatherman will release a belt. :ahhh
Def
The Leatherbelt?
As long as it's made from better leather than their pouches are. ::)
Any bad experience?
Did it become lower quality throughout the years?
Got some older gen pouches and those are made from an entire cow as far as I can tell...
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I hope to give the Sync I and II at some point God willing, love the idea. It's like a Leatherman tread for your belt
Sent from my SM-T377V using Tapatalk
Don't say that too loud or next year Leatherman will release a belt. :ahhh
Def
The Leatherbelt?
As long as it's made from better leather than their pouches are. ::)
Any bad experience?
Did it become lower quality throughout the years?
Got some older gen pouches and those are made from an entire cow as far as I can tell...
Definitely. As you say; the older leather pouches are excellent. Sadly the newer ones are much lower quality. :(
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just fixed a oven with mine (small but beefy-enough pliers helped getting to the bolts we couldnt reach with regular-size pliers from the toolbox hehe)
also started nicknaming mine the chick repellent :facepalm:
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just fixed a oven with mine (small but beefy-enough pliers helped getting to the bolts we couldnt reach with regular-size pliers from the toolbox hehe)
also started nicknaming mine the chick repellent :facepalm:
Why the chick repellent?
I earned the Geek of the Week award at work for wearing mine as a belt buckle
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just fixed a oven with mine (small but beefy-enough pliers helped getting to the bolts we couldnt reach with regular-size pliers from the toolbox hehe)
also started nicknaming mine the chick repellent :facepalm:
Why the chick repellent?
I earned the Geek of the Week award at work for wearing mine as a belt buckle
I can't imagine why. :D
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I got both Syncs, I have them set up as belt buckles and I have to say for me they are the ultimate edc, you use it and put it back on your belt, it's always there. When people notice they usually says it's the coolest thing- then they ask about the TSA...
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Probably because I live SF, CA haha. Where having a multitool buckle is seen socially as an horrible fashion misstep (not that I care :rofl:). It's neither hipersterish enough or trendy enough :ahhh
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My Sync II is getting regular use at the mo and is now getting a few marks on it from sliding on and off the base. Having it as my belt buckle makes it so handy to grab and use.
(https://c1.staticflickr.com/3/2858/33324245303_5dfa93f351_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/SLKt8v)
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Wish they came out with a black version so that it doesn't stand out so much
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Wish they came out with a black version so that it doesn't stand out so much
I had the same thought. Also wondered about applying a coating or anodizing, or dyeing it or something.
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Wish they came out with a black version so that it doesn't stand out so much
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That's a good thought.
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Or maybe some kind of cover to go over it :think:
I'm not afraid to wave my geek flag high but others may be less inclined.
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Had a funny issue today, belt buckle - aka the sog sync I - was against the table and i was leaning a bit, which pushed the button and it fell. I guess that's one issue with the design, though it happened once in a couple of weeks or so that ive been wearing it now.
im basically just keeping it on now, looks alright as a buckle and its kinda useful actually. I like not having to pick up a multitool, its just there.
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Sync 2
The honeymoon is just beginning folks...
I've acquired "the knack" for quickly deploying and unlocking the tools. It seems the longer I've owned this gadget, the more I love it. What is it that makes this SOG so special?
FYI I don't use the buckle/clip attachment. The Sync 2 is so light, compact and conveniently shaped that I often just pop it into my shirt pocket. I barely notice it's there until a task arises.
BEST wire cutters - - - I use the blunt nose pliers hard and have cut dozens of cords and tie straps effortlessly with the bypass cutters.
Fair to good scissors I have used for basic stuff. Nail trimming; no problem.
Nail file sux but the screwdriver on it is great. The medium slotted and flat Phillips are also very good.
Knife is razor sharp and more than adequate . I'm just a tad concerned it may be too thin.
Couple tiny spots of surface rust around the pliers but who cares?.. don't use it as an eating utensil.
Have I said what an awesome tool this is?
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I'm still carrying mine daily as my belt buckle. I often forget it's there and use the multi in my pocket though :facepalm:
It's been a good tool so far. I haven't used it for anything heavy, though I don't think it's designed for that, it's designed for light duty use, which is what I use it for. Plus having it as a belt buckle makes it so convenient.
I still get the :facepalm: or ::) off people when I deploy it, they all think I'm a multitool geek.
Today's carry
(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4230/35741770831_d3d56e4cf9_o.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/WsnVf8)
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I still get the :facepalm: or ::) off people when I deploy it, they all think I'm a multitool geek.
Well aren't you? :pok: :D
I'm kinda interested in the Sync... maybe it's the name... :think:
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I still get the :facepalm: or ::) off people when I deploy it, they all think I'm a multitool geek.
Well aren't you? :pok: :D
I'm kinda interested in the Sync... maybe it's the name... :think:
Oh yes :tu:
If you go for one, I'd go for the sync II. My sync I only sees light of day because it's clipped the the bag I carry the collapsible water bowl, water, poo bags, etc when I walk my dog. I don't think I've actually used it yet either :facepalm:
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I just used my sync II and when I did I noticed it has quite a lot of rust forming on it from wearing it as a belt buckle. I'll take some pics and post them before I get rid of the rust. It's going to be a fiddly job getting rid of it all. I think the dremel will have to come out to play with scotchbrite pads on it.
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I just used my sync II and when I did I noticed it has quite a lot of rust forming on it from wearing it as a belt buckle. I'll take some pics and post them before I get rid of the rust. It's going to be a fiddly job getting rid of it all. I think the dremel will have to come out to play with scotchbrite pads on it.
:oops: That didn't take long. I'm sure Tony will have some tricks up his sleeve if there's rust in difficult to reach areas
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Had my Sync I fall off while wearing it as a buckle. Apparently, after reading Amazon and SOG's own user review this is something that happens to a lot of people.
Unfortunately in my case I found the "bolt" but I could not find the screw and will have to find a correctly sized replacement somewhere.
Would highly recommend using loctite if that hasn't happened to you yet. Kinda bad when your belt falls off at a party (don't ask!) ;-)
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I finally got around to taking pics of the rust. It's the side that is up when worn as a buckle and is closest to the skin. Now I can get on with getting the rust removed and lubing it up to prevent it.
(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4487/23517316158_412c398769_k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/BQ9oLf)
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I recommend Flitz metal polish with Teflon. I applied it to my Gerber MP when I got it in the early 1990s and reapplied a few times since then and it still looks pretty good for a tool that saw EDC for about 4 years. :cheers:
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Anyone know how to tighten the pivot point on a Sync II? Mines got a bit of wobble in it already and with the latch mechanism going through it I can't give it the old love tap on the pivot I don't think
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Do you not just tighten the pivot with a torx? Or is that only the latch mechanism?
If not, vice grips method?
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Do you not just tighten the pivot with a torx? Or is that only the latch mechanism?
If not, vice grips method?
I tried that but it didn't make a difference. I'll take the latch out completely and have a better look.
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How is the Sync II for daily carry? I'm debating on the purchase... seems like a cool toy, but how good are the wire cutters, the pliers, and the scissors? Thanks!
Charles.
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Pliers are surprisingly good. Wire cutters are small, but function well. Scissors are like New Wave scissors, except they require a bit more force to make the same cuts as the New Wave scissors would.
The II is BIG. Don't let the photos fool you.
You can see in the photo the Sync I and II and below/to the left is a SOG ToolClip. :o
(http://i.imgur.com/1H54CuJ.jpg)
I just thought I'd mention that. I was a bit surprised by the size. And the "pull a tool out half way" unlocking mechanism takes some getting used to.
Hope this helps. :tu:
(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/906/41866928751_11733ddb59_k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/26MCXia)SOG Sync II Pic 1 (https://flic.kr/p/26MCXia) by None (https://www.flickr.com/photos/alexkerhead/), on Flickr
(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/974/41149682044_d3a4516d6b_k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/25GfSQC)SOG Sync II Pic 2 (https://flic.kr/p/25GfSQC) by None (https://www.flickr.com/photos/alexkerhead/), on Flickr
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I handled one at REI and thought it was a good size for a belt buckle. I'm a big guy. I like big belts. It felt good to play with it, but I wanted to do more research before I snag one. The tool locking mechanism didn't bother me... except that the drivers don't lock. Seems strange to make scissors lock, but not a screwdriver. Same with the file... weird tool choices to be locking vs non-locking. But that was the only real gripe I had when handling the tool in the store. I didn't have opportunity to test the wire cutters or scissors or anything, which is why I wanted to ask here. How does it do on 12ga and 24ga stranded wire?
For that matter, how does the Sync 1 perform with wire cutting duties?
Charles.
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The II cut 12 single-strand just fine, but with slightly more effort than standard type MT cutters, nut nothing bad. And mine will cut 24 just fine. :tu:
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Single strand? I need it to cut wire you'd use in an automotive or home stereo installation. Which is 12ga stranded primary wire, 12ga stranded speaker wire, sometimes 10ga, but rarely. And then fine electronics work as well, which will be down to 24ga wire. All stranded copper, no ROMEX or house wiring.
Charles.
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My bad. Single 12g wire-stranded. No a single strand of it. :tu:
I didn't mean it would only cut one strand of a 12g stranded wire. :pok:
I was trying to say you won't be cutting any 12-2 or 12-3 with it. Well..you could..,but it would look like a piranha biting at the insulating jacket. :)
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Perfect. I have different tools for home improvement stuff. When I’m out and about I need to be able to rewire a vintage motorcycle or fix trailer wiring or whatnot. So stranded cutting is important. Sounds like I might be buying these :)
Charles.
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SOG's service department is first class, in the event you have an issue with the Sync II. :)
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really? That's good to know. I was going to send my Micro Toolclip in to see if they would replace it with one that actually has a file. Mine is so lightly cut that it turns into smooth metal. It does not filing at all. Not even fingernails.
Charles.
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I'd send it in and specially mention the file. See what happens. :tu:
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I just got a sync ii for Christmas, and a nice belt to go with it. Unfortunately it doesn’t work with this belt. The belt I got is quite thick and not your average jc penny belt that falls apart in a year, it’s made by a leather maker and is a lot more heavy duty. I’m a fat guy and my belts will twist and deform If I don’t buy a good quality one. The fact the SOG doesn’t fit is disappointing. So I’m not so pleased about that. But the tool itself is awesome.
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The belt is actually thicker than the baseplate. As you can see the belt does not thread through the opening.
Charles.
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Well that does suck :-\ I buy thicker belts like that as well (also from a leather shop :cheers: ) and tried that Sync II once and remember it being a bit hard to thread but I did get this accomplished :salute: It wasn't the most comfortable buckle so I didn't end up using it for long like that :facepalm: I need to get it back out and clip it to my backpack and get some good use out of it as I do rather like it as a tool just not a buckle :D
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I have the same problem with my belt, I just don't thread it through and let the trouser loops do the retention. I had to punch smaller holes for better retention though or the buckle just popped off
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Well, that belt was a double-fail. The holes were deeper than the retention orb on the Sync II, so it never stayed attached. I could probably machine a new longer retention piece, but I've decided to go to a thinner belt. I've got it mounted to a regular store-bought belt and it's perfect. I just took an angle grinder and cutting disc to the old buckle and then slid the SOG right on. No sewing or anything. It's retaining pretty great so far. I've got a new full grain leather belt on order that will hopefully be a better fit.
Charles.
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Also, has anyone done a knifeless mod on these yet? I always have a swiss army knife on me, I don't need another blade.
Charles.
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I saw a video and they’re making a travel version that should be out soon.
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as Ryo said, SOG just announced a "Travel" Sync with no blade :popcorn:
also announced this...
https://www.instagram.com/p/BtCFJKtBnlz/
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Hey, is the file wobbly for anyone else? (Sync II). It doesn't appear that the pivot screws can be made any tighter, and my file has a LOT of side-to-side play.
Strangely, it's absolutely terrible for fingernails, but actually useful for filing mild steel. That was a surprise. I used it to file some material from a door plate so that the latch would catch (Every winter the house settles so the door didn't latch, and every spring un-settles so the door latches again).
Charles.
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Just checked mine and it has a bit of wobble. I think the design of the pivot and locking system are partly to blame. And a shorter barrel screw might help, but not much. It may need to have a washer put in there to stop the wobble.
The newer SOG files don't feel like they work, but actually work quite well on harder materials. :iagree:
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For the first time in almost 10 years, I'm the proud owner of a SOG multitool, namely the Sync 2! Alan K gifted me this cool tool, and I immediately put it on my belt for a buckle. I don't notice it being there at all, and look forward to playing with it on hikes and whatever I can find to try it out. Like Kev said earlier in this thread, it's better to have it and not need it than need it and not have it. :cheers: Alan K!!
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Very cool, Barry! :like:
Definitely one of SOG's better offerings. :)
Good work Alan K! :salute:
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After living with this tool since Christmas... I still use it as my daily carry, but it has SO many weak points.
The scissors are crap. They don't cut anything. They require a ton of force to use, and they hurt my thumb if it's anything thicker than paper. They literally wouldn't cut through cardboard. Not corrugated, but just from a smurfty box a woodworking clamp came in. I pulled out a cheapie multitool just for comparison, and the scissors had no problem with that cardboard. Neither did the scissors in my vic or my wenger knives. The scissors are the biggest fail, they're useless and just take up space.
Well, that's not entirely true. The fact that the screwdrivers are non-locking is the biggest fail. I've busted my knuckles at least 5 times because of these collapsing drivers. They work well, but they're not thought out.
The file is actually really good, and the blade is amazing. The pliers are good for light duty, but are painful to use for anything that requires a lot of grip. So this is no replacement for an MP600 by any stretch.
I'd like to find a broken Sync I and swap the scissors out and the micro driver and awl in.
I'd REALLY love to silver solder a tang on the drivers and then file it down and shape it to make them locking.
Charles.
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I just snagged a Sog Sync I for a very good price (thanks Grant!), and it's SOOOOOO CUUUUTTEEEEE. It's an adorably-sized pair of pliers. It's also a lot lighter than the Sync II, which is always threatenign to pull my pants down.
As a tool, I actually think the Sync I is a better choice. The Sync II has too many worthless or unusable tools. The scissors are useless for anything except paper (they require too much force to use, even for trimming fingernails), and the two drivers don't lock and fold up laughably easy. The Sync I doesn't have big drivers, just two really small flat drivers. For the kind of force you can put on those small tools, no locking mechanism is needed. It has a nice awl and a small driver that can *almost* fit my glasses screws. A couple of passes with a smurf file and it'll fit them perfectly. Every tool on the Sync I is usable. And it's lighter. The pliers are smaller, but still larger than anything you'd have on a SAK. So for a light carry day, they'd be perfect. I see myself wearing this more than the Sync II... three useless tools (out of five) in the Sync II is just sad.
That said, I have mods in mind for my Sync II, so it won't be sad for long!
Charles.
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Glad the Sync I worked out for you, Charles. They were/are truly innovative multitools, but their shortcomings really tarnished the idea. And what does SOG do to make the Sync I/II better? Change the toolset? No. Make the drivers lock? No.
They just decided to offer them in BO as they were. :facepalm:
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Did you really expect anything else from SOG? It’s not like they haven’t done smurf like this before. How many files have they refused to fix over the years? how many tools have odd shortcomings that are never addressed? (Isn’t it all of them?)
It’s like they don’t even USE their own tools. In the first five minutes I realized the sync 2 drivers were useless, and that the scissors were extra-special crapaliscious. Why couldn’t they use the damn tool and figure that out too?!
Charles.
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I still wear my Sync II as my belt buckle every day. It's very handy having pliers always to hand on the days when I only pocket carry a SAK.