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Title: 5 Questions to ask SOG
Post by: Grant Lamontagne on January 06, 2009, 01:16:17 AM
I have a meeting set with Chris@SOG at this year's SHOT Show and I want to know what you guys want to know about.  I'll take the best questions and make sure I get an answer while I'm there.

So, what 5 things do you want to know about SOG?

Def
Title: Re: 5 Questions to ask SOG
Post by: Leatherman123 on January 06, 2009, 01:19:16 AM
I'd like to know if the wire stripping implement is going to be available separately. Thanks  :)
Title: Re: 5 Questions to ask SOG
Post by: cliosguy on January 06, 2009, 01:24:42 AM
are they planing to do an outside tool access version of the powerlock?
Title: Re: 5 Questions to ask SOG
Post by: PyroJames on January 06, 2009, 01:26:33 AM
Is there any chance of seeing more blade styles for the powerlock in the future?  (ie: tanto, clip-point, spear-point, etc.)
Title: Re: 5 Questions to ask SOG
Post by: eodtech on January 06, 2009, 01:31:03 AM
Is he buying dinner? :cheers:
Title: Re: 5 Questions to ask SOG
Post by: Nutznboltz on January 06, 2009, 01:37:21 AM
Will the Palidin Tools multi's ever come home to Sog and join the lineup?.
Title: Re: 5 Questions to ask SOG
Post by: gafftapegreenia on January 06, 2009, 01:49:34 AM
YES on the wire stripping implement. Info is needed.
Title: Re: 5 Questions to ask SOG
Post by: Leatherman123 on January 06, 2009, 01:51:17 AM
I know! I will definitely buy a Powercut, but I want one on my PowerLocks!
Title: Re: 5 Questions to ask SOG
Post by: parnass on January 06, 2009, 01:54:38 AM
When will SOG offer a 4 inch long (when closed) version of the PowerLock with locking implements?
Title: Re: 5 Questions to ask SOG
Post by: Benner on January 06, 2009, 01:56:07 AM
Funny, I have never seen the need for a wire stripper.  I always saw that as a bit of a "filler" tool but I guess that is not the case.
Title: Re: 5 Questions to ask SOG
Post by: gafftapegreenia on January 06, 2009, 01:58:27 AM
Perhaps most importantly: RESPECTABLE knife blades on their multi's.
Title: Re: 5 Questions to ask SOG
Post by: Leatherman123 on January 06, 2009, 01:59:32 AM
Ben, I never need a wire stripper either; but I think the implement is really neat! It looks like it would really well too.. If i do need to strip wire, I use the wire cutters..
Title: Re: 5 Questions to ask SOG
Post by: Benner on January 06, 2009, 02:00:25 AM
Ben, I never need a wire stripper either; but I think the implement is really neat! It looks like it would really well too.. If i do need to strip wire, I use the wire cutters..

Well that's what I do, so why he need to ask about the wire stripper then?
Title: Re: 5 Questions to ask SOG
Post by: cliosguy on January 06, 2009, 02:01:31 AM
Perhaps most importantly: RESPECTABLE knife blades on their multi's.

aggre :tu:
Title: Re: 5 Questions to ask SOG
Post by: Leatherman123 on January 06, 2009, 02:02:50 AM
I really want one on some of my PowerLocks, and other members want it too!
Title: Re: 5 Questions to ask SOG
Post by: gafftapegreenia on January 06, 2009, 02:02:57 AM
Some of us (like me) work with wires all day so it's a big deal to have "proper" strippers. I usually carry a dedicate pair of strippers along with my Leatherman.
Title: Re: 5 Questions to ask SOG
Post by: Benner on January 06, 2009, 02:05:10 AM
I really want one on some of my PowerLocks, and other members want it too!

Sorry to go OT Def, but why if you never use it?

I'm just curious that's all.  :)
Title: Re: 5 Questions to ask SOG
Post by: Leatherman123 on January 06, 2009, 02:08:48 AM
Haha, I would use it, because it looks as if it works a hell of a lot better than the stripper on LM tools (with the exeption of the Radio Shack Juice) or any other stripper!
Title: Re: 5 Questions to ask SOG
Post by: STik on January 06, 2009, 02:09:29 AM
What happened to the serrated line cutter accessory?   :-[ It just distaperd...
Title: Re: 5 Questions to ask SOG
Post by: Benner on January 06, 2009, 02:11:51 AM
Some of us (like me) work with wires all day so it's a big deal to have "proper" strippers. I usually carry a dedicate pair of strippers along with my Leatherman.

I used to be an electronic service engineer that also did audio/visual and white goods installations and in 3 years I never once used a wire stripper.

I guess I never found a decent one.

Title: Re: 5 Questions to ask SOG
Post by: prime77 on January 06, 2009, 02:12:40 AM
Are there any plans to finally get rid of the handle flaps in future tools.  
Title: Re: 5 Questions to ask SOG
Post by: gafftapegreenia on January 06, 2009, 02:15:37 AM
Some of us (like me) work with wires all day so it's a big deal to have "proper" strippers. I usually carry a dedicate pair of strippers along with my Leatherman.

I used to be an electronic service engineer that also did audio/visual and white goods installations and in 3 years I never once used a wire stripper.

I guess I never found a decent one.


Interesting. I'm a  theatre tech and it seems I'm stripping 10 - 20 AWG all the time. In fact yesterday I was wiring up this rolling bookcase of illuminated jars. Each jar had a cluster assembled from LED Christmas lights I had pulled apart, and the wiring harness for the unit was all zip cord, running from a 6v battery.

Klein makes some good strippers but my most "pocketable" one is a $10 Ideal from the Depot.

Title: Re: 5 Questions to ask SOG
Post by: Benner on January 06, 2009, 02:17:39 AM
I'm actually intrigued now to go give some a go. I just got used to cutters and they worked well enough for me so I didn't look into other options.

Anyway... back on topic.  :D

Title: Re: 5 Questions to ask SOG
Post by: gafftapegreenia on January 06, 2009, 02:19:24 AM
I'm actually intrigued now to go give some a go. I just got used to cutters and they worked well enough for me so I didn't look into other options.

Anyway... back on topic.  :D



Ok,

/hijack
Title: Re: 5 Questions to ask SOG
Post by: hawkchucker on January 06, 2009, 02:22:31 AM
Ask Him if he plans on getting rid of the chisle grind!
Title: Re: 5 Questions to ask SOG
Post by: Nutznboltz on January 06, 2009, 02:23:46 AM
What happened to the serrated line cutter accessory?   :-[ It just distaperd...

It was not very effective, I have one and it can't cut at all.  I think the V cutter has replaced it for the better.
Title: Re: 5 Questions to ask SOG
Post by: Benner on January 06, 2009, 02:24:03 AM
Ask Him if he plans on getting rid of the chisle grind!

I was waiting for that.  :D
Title: Re: 5 Questions to ask SOG
Post by: Anthony on January 06, 2009, 02:38:43 AM
I got a cool pair of Kronus wire strippers that flip into a sidecutter at Radio Shack...Although I'm also comfortable stripping wire with the wire cutters of a multitool, or a regular blade if I have to.

But back on topic..

-When is SOG going to design an outside opening tools Powerlock?  It seems fairly easy to do...is it just a matter of copyrights or something?

-Any plans on selling plier heads seperately?  The new cutter head, or even the new Powerlock 2.0 head...a cool linesmans pliers head, blunt nose head...etc.

I understand why they don't...if you could just buy the cutter head and put it in your existing Powerlock...then SOG doesn't sell an entire new tool...still would like to hear a response :D
Title: Re: 5 Questions to ask SOG
Post by: I'm Still Bison on January 06, 2009, 02:40:05 AM
Are there any plans to finally get rid of the handle flaps in future tools.  

I second that.
Title: Re: 5 Questions to ask SOG
Post by: Anthony on January 06, 2009, 03:03:44 AM
If the tools were outside opening you woulden't need handle flaps...two birds with one SOG!
Title: Re: 5 Questions to ask SOG
Post by: cliosguy on January 06, 2009, 06:29:54 AM
If the tools were outside opening you woulden't need handle flaps...two birds with one SOG!

hope your reading SOG, hinthinthinthint ;)
Title: Re: 5 Questions to ask SOG
Post by: 665ae on January 06, 2009, 06:43:40 AM
1. What's the reason for the delay on the PowerCut?
2. When will the PowerCut be released?
3. What's the reason for the delay on the PowerCut?
4. When will the PowerCut be released?
5. What's the reason for the delay on the PowerCut?

That's what I want to know!
Title: Re: 5 Questions to ask SOG
Post by: Sean on January 06, 2009, 08:04:21 AM
After reading the last couple of pages and probably going forward for the next couple I would ask...

 Since these pliers are a one of a kind in that you can take them apart, replace, and customize.  Ask him if he has given any future consideration to producing "blanks"?  Pliers come empty and "u-fill 'em" with whatever you want! ;)  Good idea?  The "SOG  U-Fill"

cheers,
Sean
Title: Re: 5 Questions to ask SOG
Post by: WhichDawg on January 06, 2009, 12:17:51 PM
I would like to get together with a few MT members here and go to SOG in Washington,
some time this year, can you ask for some "behind the scenes" passes? it would be
nice to see the umpa lumpa's at work! :D
Title: Re: 5 Questions to ask SOG
Post by: PyroJames on January 06, 2009, 02:12:51 PM
Since these pliers are a one of a kind in that you can take them apart, replace, and customize.  Ask him if he has given any future consideration to producing "blanks"?  Pliers come empty and "u-fill 'em" with whatever you want! ;)  Good idea?  The "SOG  U-Fill"

That would be a great idea.  I know some people that have more than enough extra components lying around to build a second or third PowerLock so being able to just buy the handles and plier head and building your own MT with your extra parts would be nice.

OR, SOG could offer some sort of service where you tell them what specific components you want in your MT and they build it for you at the factory and ship it out to you.
Title: Re: 5 Questions to ask SOG
Post by: Medic82 on January 06, 2009, 05:30:17 PM
How about this:

When are you going too be more active on Multitool.org and start giving away tools and knifes too the members?

If that isn’t a good question how about this.

You can open a SOG with one hand, how about one hand opening blades that will open from the outside??
Title: Re: 5 Questions to ask SOG
Post by: cliosguy on January 06, 2009, 05:37:33 PM
Since these pliers are a one of a kind in that you can take them apart, replace, and customize.  Ask him if he has given any future consideration to producing "blanks"?  Pliers come empty and "u-fill 'em" with whatever you want! ;)  Good idea?  The "SOG  U-Fill"

That would be a great idea.  I know some people that have more than enough extra components lying around to build a second or third PowerLock so being able to just buy the handles and plier head and building your own MT with your extra parts would be nice.

OR, SOG could offer some sort of service where you tell them what specific components you want in your MT and they build it for you at the factory and ship it out to you.

SOG powerlock "a la cart", i like that :tu:
Title: Re: 5 Questions to ask SOG
Post by: Dunc on January 06, 2009, 08:32:19 PM
Def see if you can find out who their UK importer/Distributor is and tell them to sack them and get someone else  >:D Why is it so hard to get replacement tools in the UK ?  Even Heinnies couldn't get me a V-cutter for a powerlock .
Also could you ask them try and improve their scissors , sorry but they suck .

Dunc
Title: Re: 5 Questions to ask SOG
Post by: jzmtl on January 06, 2009, 09:04:02 PM
What happened to the serrated line cutter accessory?   :-[ It just distaperd...

It was not very effective, I have one and it can't cut at all.  I think the V cutter has replaced it for the better.

Funny, I hated the v cutter and though it was crap, and bought a line cutter to replace it, it's great for cutting zip ties.

Although I would imagine it's more useful if they put ACTUAL serrations on it instead of just some wave, but it comes back to how a knife manufacturer skimming on blade of their multitool.
Title: Re: 5 Questions to ask SOG
Post by: WhichDawg on January 06, 2009, 09:52:00 PM
I'm with Dunc, when I got mine I couldn't cut paper or string with my scissors
and I replaced it with the V cutter, waaaay better (for cord). A new scissor design would
be appreciated.
Title: Re: 5 Questions to ask SOG
Post by: Medic82 on January 06, 2009, 11:57:37 PM
How about this:

When are you going too be more active on Multitool.org and start giving away tools and knifes too the members?

If that isn’t a good question how about this.

You can open a SOG with one hand, how about one hand opening blades that will open from the outside??

The biggest question I want to know is why SOG haven’t gone with outside opening tools and when are they going to make their first one. I also want to know if they are coming out with one hand opening blade that not are powered by their SAT. Are they going too do something about the handles so they can remove the flaps. The scissor could need a redesign. Also need to went the idea of a SOG a la cart. How about inventing some new implements.

Can you pleas find me some free merchandise?? If not, can you buy me a Powerassist??
Title: Re: 5 Questions to ask SOG
Post by: DaveK on January 07, 2009, 12:24:10 AM
Def see if you can find out who their UK importer/Distributor is and tell them to sack them and get someone else  >:D Why is it so hard to get replacement tools in the UK ?  Even Heinnies couldn't get me a V-cutter for a powerlock .
Also could you ask them try and improve their scissors , sorry but they suck .

Dunc

Spot on. You can get the replacement tools from ebay, but the shipping from the US is as much as the tools!!!!!

I fancy a go with a V-cutter too, as I agree the scissors are pants.
Title: Re: 5 Questions to ask SOG
Post by: Medic82 on January 07, 2009, 01:18:24 AM
Def see if you can find out who their UK importer/Distributor is and tell them to sack them and get someone else  >:D Why is it so hard to get replacement tools in the UK ?  Even Heinnies couldn't get me a V-cutter for a powerlock .
Also could you ask them try and improve their scissors , sorry but they suck .

Dunc

Spot on. You can get the replacement tools from ebay, but the shipping from the US is as much as the tools!!!!!

I fancy a go with a V-cutter too, as I agree the scissors are pants.

anyone tried ordering from SOG them self?? Cost me 10$ in shipping instead of 40$ that most shops in US did
Title: Re: 5 Questions to ask SOG
Post by: PyroJames on January 07, 2009, 01:44:39 AM
anyone tried ordering from SOG them self?? Cost me 10$ in shipping instead of 40$ that most shops in US did

My brother ordered a molle sheath and a component for me from them and I think it's free shipping within North America.
Title: Re: 5 Questions to ask SOG
Post by: Nutznboltz on January 07, 2009, 08:05:37 PM
anyone tried ordering from SOG them self?? Cost me 10$ in shipping instead of 40$ that most shops in US did

My brother ordered a molle sheath and a component for me from them and I think it's free shipping within North America.

I've ordered directly from their website a few times, usually for accessories and tool components and shipping was free.  To Canada anyways.   Customer service is pretty good as well as the last order I place was screwed up ( sent wrong component ) and after contacting them the correct item was immediately shipped out and I got to keep the wrong item.
 :D
Title: Re: 5 Questions to ask SOG
Post by: DoughDTD on January 07, 2009, 08:50:45 PM
This has been said several times in this thread, but I'll say it again to express my desire to hear the answers to these questions:

1) When will you guys find a better solution to the flaps
2) When will there be outside openeing tools (which, as stated, would probably remove the need for flaps anyway
3) When will the knives become GOOD quality knives, instead of just another space within the tool (maybe better steel for the knife, and no more chisel grind)
4) Tell them to get more involved in the forum, or at least let them know they should read the comments and take them into SERIOUS consideration
5) Ask them for a free Powerlock to give to DoughDTD  :D

-Dough
Title: Re: 5 Questions to ask SOG
Post by: american lockpicker on January 07, 2009, 09:31:00 PM
Why did they stop marking the pliers "USA"?
Title: Re: 5 Questions to ask SOG
Post by: Benner on January 07, 2009, 09:32:49 PM
Why do they need to stamp SOG onto everything about 50 times?
Title: Re: 5 Questions to ask SOG
Post by: Medic82 on January 07, 2009, 09:55:08 PM
Why do they need to stamp SOG onto everything about 50 times?

Yeah, why do they do that? Are they afraid that we will forget what brand of MT or knife we are using? Or is it so that we can be sure that we are buying a SOG?
Title: Re: 5 Questions to ask SOG
Post by: jzmtl on January 07, 2009, 10:08:54 PM
Why do they need to stamp SOG onto everything about 50 times?

+1

I like a lot of their offerings in knife line, but the fact they even stamp SOG on lowrider clips turns me off.

Also not really related to MT, but when will they start to use VG10 in their fixed blades? $100+ for an aus8 blade just doesn't cut it anymore, not with all the 154cm, s30v, vg10 out there.
Title: Re: 5 Questions to ask SOG
Post by: Nutznboltz on January 07, 2009, 11:55:23 PM
Why don't they supply the tools with better components ( ie. file and plain edge blade ) instead of making us purchase these upgrades seperately online?.

The 3 sided file supplied with the multi's is not the same one offered on their website,  which is imo more aggressive and shaves better. I've replace all the standard files in my sog's with them, also you can get a hollow ground straight edge blade unlike the chisel ground combination edge supplied with the tools.
Title: Re: 5 Questions to ask SOG
Post by: MultiMat on January 09, 2009, 04:05:06 PM
1) Was the Switchplier dropped from production due to low sales ?
2) Can someone check out back , see if any are lying around  :D.
3) Can I have one please  :ahhh
4) I really need one  :ahhh :ahhh :ahhh
5) Who do I thank for this ace Switchplier  :D :D :D :D
Title: Re: 5 Questions to ask SOG
Post by: Nikos on January 09, 2009, 04:42:02 PM
@MultiMat: FWIW I just stumbled on this (http://www.osograndeknives.com/SOG/sog_wpl76_switchplier_multi-tool.htm).
Title: Re: 5 Questions to ask SOG
Post by: Medic82 on January 10, 2009, 09:58:25 AM
Why do SOG use #1 Philips when the most logical thing too use is #2 Philips
Title: Re: 5 Questions to ask SOG
Post by: MultiMat on January 10, 2009, 10:06:11 AM
@MultiMat: FWIW I just stumbled on this (http://www.osograndeknives.com/SOG/sog_wpl76_switchplier_multi-tool.htm).

Thanks mate $35us post to OZ is a bit of a stinker. I wonder if they actually have any stock , a lot of web sellers advertise MT's that they have not stocked for a long time . I will ask them if they have any. cheers mate.
Title: Re: 5 Questions to ask SOG
Post by: Viper on January 10, 2009, 05:03:48 PM
How about this:

When are you going too be more active on Multitool.org and start giving away tools and knifes too the members?

If that isn’t a good question how about this.

You can open a SOG with one hand, how about one hand opening blades that will open from the outside??
You mean like the PowerAssist?
Title: Re: 5 Questions to ask SOG
Post by: Medic82 on January 10, 2009, 06:13:24 PM
How about this:

When are you going too be more active on Multitool.org and start giving away tools and knifes too the members?

If that isn’t a good question how about this.

You can open a SOG with one hand, how about one hand opening blades that will open from the outside??
You mean like the PowerAssist?

DUDE!!! JEZZZ!! What's wrong with me! Of course like the Powerassist.
Title: Re: 5 Questions to ask SOG
Post by: DoughDTD on January 21, 2009, 08:00:13 AM
any word on their comments or responses to some of these questions?
Title: Re: 5 Questions to ask SOG
Post by: american lockpicker on February 20, 2009, 02:40:27 AM
Why did they stop marking the pliers "USA"?

I actually have the answer for this one and it isn't that good...

"We stopped stamping the U.S.A. logo onto the tools because we felt it
was more economical for our customers to simply advertise the country of
origin through word of mouth."
Title: Re: 5 Questions to ask SOG
Post by: Leatherman123 on February 20, 2009, 02:42:28 AM
 :-\
Title: Re: 5 Questions to ask SOG
Post by: Anthony on February 20, 2009, 02:49:44 AM
Why did they stop marking the pliers "USA"?

I actually have the answer for this one and it isn't that good...

"We stopped stamping the U.S.A. logo onto the tools because we felt it
was more economical for our customers to simply advertise the country of
origin through word of mouth."

Wow talk about doubletalk :P

Economics has nothing to do with what they stamp or don't stamp on the pliers...actually stamping "SOG" four times probably costs more than one "USA" stamp...
Title: Re: 5 Questions to ask SOG
Post by: american lockpicker on February 20, 2009, 02:58:53 AM
Isn't it 8 times, 4 on each side...
Title: Re: 5 Questions to ask SOG
Post by: NeitherExtreme on February 20, 2009, 03:00:48 AM
Probably more economical because they wouldn't have to spend all their $$$ fighting lawsuits in California. :P
Title: Re: 5 Questions to ask SOG
Post by: Anthony on February 20, 2009, 05:02:34 AM
Isn't it 8 times, 4 on each side...

ha, true..true..

I noticed the cost of the Powerlocks hasn't gone down since they've started using foregin plier heads...

It sounds like SOG is embarassed to admit they aren't entirely USA made.
Title: Re: 5 Questions to ask SOG
Post by: J-sews on February 21, 2009, 08:38:04 PM
Isn't it 8 times, 4 on each side...

ha, true..true..

I noticed the cost of the Powerlocks hasn't gone down since they've started using foregin plier heads...

It sounds like SOG is embarassed to admit they aren't entirely USA made.

That would be my guess too :-\
Title: Re: 5 Questions to ask SOG
Post by: american lockpicker on February 21, 2009, 11:44:23 PM
It seems like to me that when ever a tool becomes popular the drop the quality and start outsourcing manufacturing because people will buy there item based on brand rather than quality(Gerber is a good example of this).