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Title: Paper Notebooks vs Smartphones?
Post by: BIG-TARGET on November 13, 2012, 02:24:46 AM
Pirates vs. Ninjas was getting old anyway :whistle:

Paper Notebooks vs Smartphones? (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4YeVxMNUmo8#ws)
Title: Re: Paper Notebooks vs Smartphones?
Post by: jzmtl on November 13, 2012, 02:39:33 AM
Lol. Taking down quick note is still faster on a notebook, and drawing something on phone screen with fat finger is imprecise at best, but unfortunately I don't always have pocket space for both.
Title: Re: Paper Notebooks vs Smartphones?
Post by: Grant Lamontagne on November 13, 2012, 02:42:05 AM
Plus the batteries in my notebook rarely run down.  :D

Def

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Title: Re: Paper Notebooks vs Smartphones?
Post by: BIG-TARGET on November 13, 2012, 02:47:56 AM
I use a Moleskine pocket notebook.  I still use one of those old fashioned "flip open" cellphones
"Big-Target to Enterprise. 3 to beam up" :whistle: :facepalm:
Title: Re: Paper Notebooks vs Smartphones?
Post by: stealth007s on November 13, 2012, 03:33:06 AM
I like the Rite in the Rain products with a Fisher Bullet. I emailed Fisher about the new type of stylus and the rep told me they were unveiling at the turn of the year sometime.

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Title: Re: Paper Notebooks vs Smartphones?
Post by: jzmtl on November 13, 2012, 03:41:32 AM
Fisher bullet with hidden capacitive stylus hidden on the other end, now that I would buy one.
Title: Re: Paper Notebooks vs Smartphones?
Post by: BIG-TARGET on November 13, 2012, 04:14:44 AM
For the actual writing, I used the Pilot G2(07 fine) pens.  Nice, smooth, crisp, visible lines.  And last a long time :woohoo:
Title: Re: Paper Notebooks vs Smartphones?
Post by: Whoey on November 13, 2012, 09:34:35 AM
I've been using Pilot VBall Grip (http://www.pilotpen.us/ProductGroup/54-Vball-Grip.aspx) (05) for the last little while...
Title: Re: Paper Notebooks vs Smartphones?
Post by: BIG-TARGET on November 14, 2012, 02:05:06 AM
And if you want to tweek your notebook into a PDA
http://artofmanliness.com/2009/04/27/how-to-make-a-moleskine-pda/ (http://artofmanliness.com/2009/04/27/how-to-make-a-moleskine-pda/)
Title: Re: Paper Notebooks vs Smartphones?
Post by: Grant Lamontagne on November 14, 2012, 02:57:07 AM
I like the Rite in the Rain products with a Fisher Bullet. I emailed Fisher about the new type of stylus and the rep told me they were unveiling at the turn of the year sometime.

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That is exactly the setup I use at work.  I stick to 4x5 spiral top Rite in the Rain books and I have two Fisher Bullets.  I recently replaced the cartridge in one of them (both were dead) with blue instead of black ink and I'm finding it a bit of an adjustment since I always use black ink.  I bought blue this time as it was the only replacement cartridge at Staples and I feel naked without my Bullet pen.

Def
Title: Paper Notebooks vs Smartphones?
Post by: stealth007s on November 14, 2012, 03:45:47 AM
I'm the same way Grant with my Bullet. We always used black ink in the military so it would feel too weird to do blue or any other color for that matter.


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Title: Re: Paper Notebooks vs Smartphones?
Post by: Grant Lamontagne on November 14, 2012, 04:32:33 PM
I always used black ink- when I was in school they drummed black ink into as as the more "official" or "professional" option and that blue ink was for amateurs.  We were told that lawyers didn't pay any attention to blue ink and that it undermined your credibility from the get go.

I know full well that these are pretty pointless ideas but they stuck with me.  Then my current job reinforced it as I work for a man named Jeff who has taken over the family business from his father David.  Davis always insisted on black ink because it showed up better in faxes and photocopies.  Jeff preferred blue ink because he could always tell the difference between the original (signatures in blue) and photocopies (in black), but time and technology has rendered both of those points pretty well moot as most photocopiers, scanners and fax machines all print in full color.

However, if you do something long enough it becomes ingrained into you, and black ink has always been my preference.  However, other pens don't seem to cut it for me so I had to get my Bullets back up and running, so I got blue.

I can't wait until I manage to kill and replace this cartridge though...
 
Def
Title: Re: Paper Notebooks vs Smartphones?
Post by: jzmtl on November 14, 2012, 10:11:21 PM
Bah, black or blue, I'm using purple ink in my Lamy right now. At one of the old jobs I was using orange ink and it's completely invisible in photocopies (machine uses green light), was pretty funny.
Title: Re: Paper Notebooks vs Smartphones?
Post by: prime77 on November 18, 2012, 09:43:27 PM
I just started carrying a pocket note book a couple of months ago. I really enjoy having one place to write down thoughts and anything important that happens through out the day.  I started with Moleskine Cahier note pads and then picked up some Field Notes books and I recently made leather cover book for the notebooks.

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After some coats of Neetsfoot oil.

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Title: Re: Paper Notebooks vs Smartphones?
Post by: Grant Lamontagne on November 18, 2012, 10:14:41 PM
Nice looming notebook cover!

Def

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Title: Re: Paper Notebooks vs Smartphones?
Post by: hawkchucker on November 18, 2012, 10:41:23 PM
VERY nice cover, and I only use my phone for calender events. Paper and pen for me, due to getting them free fromwork and I am to cheap to buy a moleskin
Title: Re: Paper Notebooks vs Smartphones?
Post by: AimlessWanderer on November 18, 2012, 11:28:12 PM
I carry a Fisher Stowaway in my wallet, along with a tiny notepad that came out of a Christmas cracker  :D
Title: Re: Paper Notebooks vs Smartphones?
Post by: Mercury on December 10, 2012, 06:37:35 AM
I carry a small paper notebook pretty much every day.  I find it's a great way to quickly jot down phone numbers and stuff.  I like my phone for more *permanent* notes, but for quick stuff I use a paper pad and either my fisher bullet space pen(with BLACK ink  :D ) or my zebra f401. 
Title: Re: Paper Notebooks vs Smartphones?
Post by: kmanct3 on December 10, 2012, 01:26:01 PM
Definatly paper ,by time i get my I-Phone out and get to the note app I have forgotten what i was supposed to write! Write in the rain pad and tactical pen for me
Title: Re: Paper Notebooks vs Smartphones?
Post by: Grant Lamontagne on December 10, 2012, 05:11:57 PM
I would consider using my smartphone for a lot more of my note taking but the damn battery barely lasts a day as it is.

Def
Title: Re: Paper Notebooks vs Smartphones?
Post by: ryan1835 on December 10, 2012, 07:34:40 PM
i use my phone - I'd rather use a note pad but its finding one small enough that i like


Title: Re: Paper Notebooks vs Smartphones?
Post by: BIG-TARGET on December 10, 2012, 08:06:35 PM
i use my phone - I'd rather use a note pad but its finding one small enough that i like




http://www.moleskine.com/us/ (http://www.moleskine.com/us/)
Title: Re: Paper Notebooks vs Smartphones?
Post by: Mercury on December 11, 2012, 09:24:39 AM
i use my phone - I'd rather use a note pad but its finding one small enough that i like




http://www.moleskine.com/us/ (http://www.moleskine.com/us/)

+1   :tu:
Title: Re: Paper Notebooks vs Smartphones?
Post by: jzmtl on December 12, 2012, 01:29:36 AM
I would consider using my smartphone for a lot more of my note taking but the damn battery barely lasts a day as it is.

Def

Can you get a bigger battery? I upgraded from stock 1650 mah to 2000 (OEM, which is how the phone should've came to begin with), and very happy with the extra juice.
Title: Re: Paper Notebooks vs Smartphones?
Post by: Mercury on December 12, 2012, 09:21:15 AM
I have a Samsung GS3, and despite it's huge mah rating it still only lasts about 14 hours.  That could be due in part to the crappy signal we have throughout the majority of Montana, so I guess it's not the phone's fault.  We have 4G, it seems only two city blocks receive it but we do have it!
Title: Re: Paper Notebooks vs Smartphones?
Post by: turnsouth on December 12, 2012, 01:00:40 PM
I use a combination:
Title: Re: Paper Notebooks vs Smartphones?
Post by: BIG-TARGET on December 12, 2012, 07:47:25 PM
That pocket briefcase makes my moleskine look like a bargain :whistle:
Title: Re: Paper Notebooks vs Smartphones?
Post by: turnsouth on December 12, 2012, 10:17:45 PM
That pocket briefcase makes my moleskine look like a bargain :whistle:

Yeah, but it is a one time purchase (except for the cards, they are $0.01 to $0.02 each)

To be honest, I could never bring myself to buy one at retail, I got this one trolling on eBay. It has someone else's initials on it, but for less than half the price of new, I'm happy.

I used to use pocket Moleskines, but sooner or later they would end up coming out of the clothes dryer as a hard little ball.
 :whistle:
Title: Re: Paper Notebooks vs Smartphones?
Post by: Grant Lamontagne on December 12, 2012, 11:39:13 PM
I would consider using my smartphone for a lot more of my note taking but the damn battery barely lasts a day as it is.

Def

Can you get a bigger battery? I upgraded from stock 1650 mah to 2000 (OEM, which is how the phone should've came to begin with), and very happy with the extra juice.

I have an extended battery for mine- it's twice the size of the stock battery and it's only barely enough.  I use my phone a lot.  With the stock battery I had to charge it at lunch or it wouldn't last beyond 3-4pm.  With the extended battery I'm good until about 7pm without charging it.

Of course I still plug it in every chance I get, just in case.  Sometimes my days get really long with no advance notice.

Def
Title: Re: Paper Notebooks vs Smartphones?
Post by: stealth007s on December 13, 2012, 02:45:19 AM
Totally off topic but.............. Fisher finally made the bullet with a new type of stylus. It's in limited production currently, only $25 though. I started a thread on this in the break room forum I think........... or was it in this one  :think: :think: :think: Anywho, here's the link

http://forum.multitool.org/index.php/topic,41317.0.html (http://forum.multitool.org/index.php/topic,41317.0.html)


 :b2t:




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Title: Re: Paper Notebooks vs Smartphones?
Post by: MayaKowalczyk on November 05, 2018, 02:41:16 PM
Of course, many will say that it is better to use a smartphone than a pocket notebook. But I do not agree with this. My work involves constant negotiations with companies and personnel. Each of these conversations should be accompanied by a certain plan, which is convenient for me to write in a notebook. And in the phone information may not be saved, if some kind of system failure occurs, then in general all data can be lost. I wanted my notebook to be perfect and comfortable, so on the Internet I immediately looked for the best option. Having studied the site LINK REMOVED on which various types of notebooks were described, I found my “ideal” among them and bought myself a special pocket notebook for planning various business moments. 8)
Title: Re: Paper Notebooks vs Smartphones?
Post by: GrandpaPatch on November 05, 2018, 05:20:22 PM
Notebooks! :tu: I've got several pages of list. To Do lists, shopping lists, stuff for the grandkids lists, vehicle maintenance lists, hobby idea lists ....I should probably start a list of lists, with page number referencing.

The prices are going down on the 256GB Micro SD Cards since the 512GB cards have been out for awhile. I use my phone to store important files, music and use Google Keep to share a shopping list with my wife. She doesn't need to get a hold of me while she is in the store, since she can just pull up Google Keep and check the list. The cost of power banks (portable battery chargers) has come down a bit as well. Really handy to have a good one (or two) for those times when electrical outlets or USB ports are not available or during power outages.
Title: Re: Paper Notebooks vs Smartphones?
Post by: ThePeacent on November 05, 2018, 05:42:12 PM
wow, two posts only, in two necro threads, with two spamming links, in under two hours! :hatsoff:
A new record to write down on my notebook...  :D or is it on my Smartphone?  :think:
Title: Re: Paper Notebooks vs Smartphones?
Post by: Aloha on November 05, 2018, 06:11:33 PM
I didn't mind the necro revival of my thread on cheap notebooks but YEAH SERIOUSLY  :twak:
Title: Re: Paper Notebooks vs Smartphones?
Post by: Etherealicer on November 05, 2018, 06:41:04 PM
For a bunch of people who spend a load of money on your EDC gear you all seem to have outdated crappy phones :D

I take all notes on my phone using a pen (Note 8 rocks).
There are so many advantages to using a phone, like its searchable, you can copy order sort it, you even can add pictures you snap with your phone and annotate them. You can share them with friends.
Did I mention you can sort it? Also, if your handwriting is as ugly as mine (remember, I'm a doctor :D), its great to have the option to digitize the writing.
There is no need to leave a note for someone else, I just send them a message.
What I often need, is a waterproof marker to label something. So, that is what I carry sometimes.
Title: Re: Paper Notebooks vs Smartphones?
Post by: Aloha on November 05, 2018, 07:57:33 PM
I'm told I am the only one to be able to read my writing  :facepalm:.  I take voice notes from time to time using my phone.  I like paper especially when the note I am taking in that moment is shown to client and they can verify what is written and sometimes sign off.  I will later follow up with email.  Also If I am using said note I can keep the note handy rather than have my phone out.  Notes can be posted for others with reminders via phone.  I remember when some said we'd be paperless.......  I don't see it happening in my lifetime.     
Title: Re: Paper Notebooks vs Smartphones?
Post by: Syncop8r on November 05, 2018, 09:38:55 PM
I found a great shopping list app for my phone. The advantage of this is I can add to it no matter where I am as I always have my phone with me. I might leave a paper list at home or in the car and I might be somewhere else when I think of something that needs to go on it.
The app allows me to add items which I then order based on where in the supermarket they are (eg fruit and veg at the top of the list as they are first when you come in the door). The items stay there on the list and  before each shop I simply uncheck the items that I need. Then I check them off as I go around the supermarket.

It worked great until one day my list was inexplicably wiped.  :facepalm:  Now I'm back to using paper.
Title: Re: Paper Notebooks vs Smartphones?
Post by: GrandpaPatch on November 05, 2018, 09:48:52 PM
 :like: :iagree:
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The app allows me to add items which I then order based on where in the supermarket they are (eg fruit and veg at the top of the list as they are first when you come in the door). The items stay there on the list and  before each shop I simply uncheck the items that I need. Then I check them off as I go around the supermarket.

....

My wife does the same thing with her grocery list. Again, that is using Google Keep. Really save time making the list when she is 'inventorying' our freezer, fridge and pantry.
Title: Re: Paper Notebooks vs Smartphones?
Post by: GrandpaPatch on November 05, 2018, 09:55:33 PM
While I will agree with the benefits of using and app or document on your phone for your list and things, there is just a 'feeling' of still using and simple piece of paper and a pencil. Something I wish was still taught in the school systems today is cursive writing. NO...you can't use the phase "My dog ate my homework." when elementary level students are taking their newest gizmo tablet, laptop or other electronic device to school with the 'documents' of homework. The same homework that was assisted by spell check, thesaurus, grammer and other 'checker' abilities. Kids (and by now most young adults) don't, can't, won't write because THEY DON'T KNOW HOW! /rant
Title: Re: Paper Notebooks vs Smartphones?
Post by: Aloha on November 05, 2018, 10:04:01 PM
I've been a smart phone user since the beginning.  I love all the things we can do with them.  The apps over time have really been wonderful but paper and pen/pencil still have a place in my day to day. 

A lot has changed in how we get things done.  My kids are pretty savvy when needing to access information or pretty much anything on the fly.  I don't always write everything down however having access to paper and pen/pencil is important for me. 

I now order groceries online  :whistle:, I put everything I want in my "cart" and check out then schedule a pick up.  No lists needed nor remembering anything.  My laptop is hauled into the kitchen while I go thru the fridge and pantry. 

Technology is awesome yet I enjoy writing down things too. 
Title: Re: Paper Notebooks vs Smartphones?
Post by: MadPlumbarian on November 05, 2018, 10:33:23 PM
Wow we’re bringing back some old subjects,
I’d have to go with a paper notebook, heck I even carry one everyday, I used to carry small pieces of index cards in my wallet but my wife bought me a custom little book, it’s a mini composition book with a leather cover, but it’s come in handy, to top it off it goes in the back pocket with the hanky opposite of the wallet so it evens the back out rather then being tipped, not that there’s that much cash in the wallet, since what little is in the front but it’s one of those heavy thick saddleback leather wallets..
JR
Title: Re: Paper Notebooks vs Smartphones?
Post by: J_Brown on January 27, 2019, 04:05:18 PM
As for me, both paper notebooks have their own use scenarios.
Even since I use Note smartphones for many years, paper notebooks are better for several purposes. For example, paper notebooks are suitable for writing down some important things or drawing something. At the moment I use A6 notebook with "crafted-style" paper, just like number 5 in the list below https://onplanners.com/notebooks/best-pocket-notebooks (https://onplanners.com/notebooks/best-pocket-notebooks). Such recycled paper more eco-friendly and looks better among other gear.