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Tool Talk => Reviews => Topic started by: dks on February 16, 2012, 02:35:28 PM
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Note: If you are in any way made unhappy with my review you are free to perform your own one. Complaining to me will not make you happier.
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After waiting for a few months we finally got these Livarno torches back in LIDLs.
I got 2 of them to try.
(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/jladks/toys/3f7998af.jpg)
The cost was €5.99 each; about $9.
The cost, compared to some other cheap Chinese made Cree led torches I have on order, is not negligible, but LIDLs always includes batteries (Panasonic!!) and even tie the strap on for you, so you do not have to stress over these things. If you do not like it you can get your money back easily. Note that proper LED lights are not a widely used product here, that you expect to find in a supermarket.
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The torch has an 1Watt LED, producing 50Lm, 10000hrs of life, splashproof, unknown runtime, plastic reflector and lens.
They are imported for LIDL by a UK company, Milomex : http://www.milomex.com/milomex/index.html (http://www.milomex.com/milomex/index.html) who imports items from Asia, so they are probably made in China.
Here is link to LIDL for more: http://www.lidl-service.com/static/11544359/66776_A_ES_PT_EN.pdf (http://www.lidl-service.com/static/11544359/66776_A_ES_PT_EN.pdf)
It is operated by a, decent, rubber covered switch on the side and has one mode only, with no possibility for switching it on for a second with just a bit of light pressure on the switch, for the tactical folk here.
It can tailstand. It will also easily roll on its side, without stopping and fall of a table. So, you do not need a dog for tricks if you have this light. :tu:
The specifications are shown below in various languages, for your pleasure.
(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/jladks/toys/b3428136.jpg)
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The torch is made from heavy gauge aluminium and feels quite solid and heavy; it survived an 1m drop test :whistle: on thin carpet with no problems and should be solid enough to hit someone with, if such action is deemed necessary. ;)
(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/jladks/toys/ef6f638e.jpg)
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The threads work well but are not extremely precision ground so there is some squeaking when screwing or unscrewing its parts.
(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/jladks/toys/2f68a308.jpg)
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Taking the, substantial, bottom cap off the 3 battery carrier comes out.
All contacts are plated, shown by the gold colour, though the plating material is unknown.
Looking through the opening you see the, unplated, contact for the switch/light module. The abovementioned module takes about 1/3 of the length of the torch and is of unknown design/make.
(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/jladks/toys/f92d796c.jpg)
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On the other end, after taking the lens/reflector module off, you see the single LED.
The only brand marking on the plate with the LED appears to be NH or HN….
(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/jladks/toys/2bbe6b52.jpg)
Taking the torch apart even more seems possible, but was beyond what I wanted to do.
The LED module appears to be secured by a bezel that should turn with circlip pliers, for those interested.
The LED is centred but the reflector hole is not so the LED appears a bit off-centre with it on.
(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/jladks/toys/85b57bc8.jpg)
...and a comparison with the, more expensive, Jetbeam BA20
(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/jladks/toys/3d3aa050.jpg)
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The beam without the reflector has a very uniform spread, with a white-bluish tint.
I also compared the beam profile and intensity, with the reflector on, with some of my other lights for verification purposes. This comparison was done indoors, on a sunny day with natural light at a distance of 10cm from the end of each torch, on a door. From the left we see: 9LED 3AAA cheap torch, Jetbeam BA20 on the low setting, Livarno and Fenix E05 (borrowed…).
(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/jladks/toys/f1cb8a73.jpg)
As seen, the beam, especially at the centre, is visibly brighter than both the Jetbeam and the Fenix. Considering these give out about 30Lm each, the 50 Lm claimed by Livarno looks realistic. The beam profile looks similar to the Jetbeam, with a hot spot in the middle and a weaker, round penumbra. The Jetbeam beam is smoother. The Livarno tint is similar to the cheap 9 LED torch and the Jetbeam has a similar tint to the Fenix.
(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/jladks/toys/e2cad8bd.jpg)
The Jetbeam at high beam is, as expected, significantly brighter.
(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/jladks/toys/f1b11535.jpg)
I will do some better, nighttime, testing in the near future when some more lights arrive.
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Overall, worth a try and since LIDLs has probably sold thousands of them it should last well.
Pros:
Low priced complete package
Good beam
Solid and backed with a money-back guarantee
Cons:
Plastic lens and reflector
Not that cheap compared to some online deals
Not branded
(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/jladks/toys/44acfafb.jpg)
enjoy!
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I think it'll get the proper attention in the flashlight section.. :tu:
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I think it'll get the proper attention in the flashlight section.. :tu:
I did post a link to it there too.
I see reviews here that are not for multitools; I assume the idea is to put all reviews in here, for all subforums
EDIT:
I just realised this has been moved...
If the review section is to be used specifically for multitools from now on then let it be.
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We'll just keep it in the review section then.. :)
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well, maybe it will be better in the Flashlight section :think:
:rofl:
No worries, if possible clarify whether the Mod/Admin team prefer that non multitool reviews are posted in their specific forums and we will follow :tu:
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No worries, if possible clarify whether the Mod/Admin team prefer that non multitool reviews are posted in their specific forums and we will follow :tu:
It's not a big deal, so you'll get the last word since you wrote it.. ;) :D
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It's not a big deal, so you'll get the last word since you wrote it.. ;) :D
:cheers:
Ok, we live it here for a week, see how many views it gets and if I am not happy I will ask you to put it into the Flashlight forum and maybe later the General forum... or the candlepower forum maybe :P
:D
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While I'm not a huge fan of lights that use 3xAAA this does seem like a perfectly good light for the money. Thanks for taking the time to do the review dks. :cheers:
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While I'm not a huge fan of lights that use 3xAAA this does seem like a perfectly good light for the money. Thanks for taking the time to do the review dks. :cheers:
YES !!!I got an actual reply !!! (http://www.messentools.com/images/emoticones/varios/www.MessenTools.com-Varios-big-266.gif) (http://www.messentools.com/en/msn-emoticon-details-and-download/id/778/)
:gimme: :gimme: :gimme:
:tu: Thanks Gareth, I am sure some people here could easily replace that battery carrier with a single battery like an 18650 lithium
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It looks like a big step up from the cheap 9 led no-name lights. I have one of those and it works good enough.
Do you know what the run time is?
Good review :tu:
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No, there were no details on runtime.
I assume it will be a few hours, based on the wattage of the battery, but since we have no idea on the efficiency of the LED system it is hard to make any accurate calculations.
Addition:
Last night I compared the ability of this light to light up a room, by bouncing its light off the ceiling, with the Jetbam on low power and with a multi LED cheapie (same battery capacity, fully charged)
The Livarno was noticably better at this, veryfying that it is indeed giving out more total light than the Jetbeam and a lot more than the multi LED one
:tu:
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What I don't like on these kind of lamps is that they break the big 3xAAA advantage (for me): compactness.
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Yes Carlos, if you see the beam comparison picture the Cheap multi LED light and the Livarno both use exactly the same 3AAA battery carrier system, but the Livarno is thicker and nearly twice as long because it has a switch module, separate from the battery container (different section incorporating the LED and the electronics it needs too) and a reflector section, which the multi LED one does not have.
If you take the reflector/lens section off you end up with a pure smooth fan beam torch with little throw, and a much shorter one too.
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I got one more low cost light so until I post more about it I decided to add it here:
It is an Ultrafire (apparently...) possibly a variation of their C8 model, with 5 modes (3 intensities and 2 disco)
(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/jladks/toys/f2d8c0f2.jpg)
The ad claimed 1300Lm though I expect around 800, as that is what the manufacturer gives.
http://www.ultrafire.net/showproducts.asp?id=156 (http://www.ultrafire.net/showproducts.asp?id=156)
(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/jladks/toys/ab3a73ad.jpg)
You can see a beam comparison pictures, in which it is brighter than the Jetbeam BA20 (270Lm) and the LIDLs Livarno.
(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/jladks/toys/fb82197a.jpg)
(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/jladks/toys/bd262397.jpg)
Came with a charger and two batteries. The charger is supposed to be inteligent and the batteries protected, though my tests show otherwise.
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Current testing using my Blackspur DT-100
Lidl, .38A, not bad
C8:
High 2A
med 1.4A
Low 0.32A
with a fully charged. 4.28V battery, alas a cheap one...
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Current testing using my Blackspur DT-100
Lidl, .38A, not bad
C8:
High 2A
med 1.4A
Low 0.32A
with a fully charged. 4.28V battery, alas a cheap one...
Just adding that with a different, charged to 4.3V battery I actually got 2.3A. I will do a better test when I get some new batteries.
Also, when my focalprice torches arrive ::) I will do some comparison shots of all of them.
I got brave and took the Ultrafire apart further so here are some pictures of the remaining pieces. (I put it back together too and it works!!)
The scratch on the pill was my fault. :D
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Current testing using my Blackspur DT-100
Lidl, .38A, not bad
C8:
High 2A
med 1.4A
Low 0.32A
with a fully charged. 4.28V battery, alas a cheap one...
You lost me on this one. ??? What is the DT100, a multimeter? And are you measuring current? Can you detail your test a bit?
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I missed your review when first posted , sorry. I enjoyed your style :)
Its good to see a review of cheaper torches that we can pop out and pick up. I was a bit worried when I saw that battery holder but it looks to be quite a sturdy torch with decent output.
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You lost me on this one. ??? What is the DT100, a multimeter? And are you measuring current? Can you detail your test a bit?
Yes, it is a cheap but decent enough digital multimeter; bought in the UK over 10 years ago and surprisingly still being sold.
I basically take the bottom cap of the torch (with the switch in the case of the Ultrafire) leaving the battery in as it is and connect the lower part of the battery (-ve) with the body of the torch (the non painted/anodised thread area) through the multimeter thus creating a complete circuit. (Unfortunately I need two hands for that, so I have no pictures).
I then use the ammeter setting (10A max) and read the current passing through. With the Ultrafire every time I break the circuit (stop touching the body of the torch) it changes mode from higher to lower etc, so I can see the current passing through for each mode.
This is a, sort of, standard way to measure the current, used in the light forums. It is not perfect as you do not take into account any other resistances or how the control system of the light may react differently if the current goes through the switch etc. but it gives a good indication of how much current is allowed to go through at each mode.
With a fancier light you will see that as the battery “weakens” the current is altered to keep the luminance constant, though I do not expect anything like that in these cheap torches.
I missed your review when first posted , sorry. I enjoyed your style :)
Its good to see a review of cheaper torches that we can pop out and pick up. I was a bit worried when I saw that battery holder but it looks to be quite a sturdy torch with decent output.
I am used to being ignored... I posted some knife pictures a week ago and nobody has commented on them yet... :D
The torches work fine and are a lot brighter than what 99.9% of the people use.
I did order some really cheap Cree LEDE torches from focalprice over 2 months ago to compare but they have not arrived yet.
EDIT: added some really bad pictures from a shop from yesterday, to show what is available in DIY shops here.
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The Romisen RC-K4.
Romisen is considered a decent torch maker.
http://www.szromisen.com/zh-en/product_show.asp?id=91 (http://www.szromisen.com/zh-en/product_show.asp?id=91)
(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/jladks/toys/53df547c.jpg)
General quality and sealing seems OK, but the LED is below the reflector hole by a bit and is not centred well. Aluminium Body.
Single mode, 160Lm max,
Q3 Cree LED with its circuits protected by a plastic cover.
(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/jladks/toys/5bb9a763.jpg)
regulated, can not tailstand, waterproofed.
No coloured plating.
(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/jladks/toys/8db4026d.jpg)
OP Aluminium reflector
(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/jladks/toys/ed6a401d.jpg)
(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/jladks/toys/a666cd06.jpg)
Runs for, (on):
6 hours (2xCR123A)
4 hours (1x18650)
2.5 hours (3xAAA)
There are springs in the bottom cap and the inside of the tube so as to accomodate the longer batteries.
The beam appears brighter when using the 18650 instead of the 3 AAAs.
(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/jladks/toys/121cd3bc.jpg)
A size comparison:
(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/jladks/toys/9615ab1d.jpg)
and a beam comparison with the:
Romisen, Ultrafire, Jetbeam, Livarno and 9 LED cheapo.
(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/jladks/toys/bbcae83a.jpg)
With the jetbeam and Ultrafire on High
(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/jladks/toys/ba9effeb.jpg)
and on Low
(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/jladks/toys/5bc4a401.jpg)
Current wise, with the 3AAAs giving 3.85V it draws 0.66A.
With a 3.8V 18650 it draws 0.70A, about the same then.
However with a 4.09V 18650 it draws 0.92A, thus with a fully charged 18650 it should draw around 1A. (for comparison the ultrafire draws from over 2A to 1,3A)
I would estimate that you will get the full 160Lm with the 18650 but maybe a bit less with the 3AAAs.
Will do more when I get the rest of the light I ordered!
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These 3 arrived today, individually boxed and in bubble wrap.
(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/jladks/toys/4d610814.jpg)
Cost $3 for each.
Small Sun is a reasonably known brand and these torches with Cree LEDs seemed like a bargain and cheap enough so as not to care if they were rubbish.
Specifications from the site:
http://www.focalprice.com/ (http://www.focalprice.com/)
Brand -Small Sun
Model -ZY-5T1
Material -aluminium alloy
Type -LED flashlight
Emitter Type -CREE
Switch Location -front push button
Bulb Number -1 LED
Luminous Flux -100LM
Mode Arrangement -1 mode
Illumination Distance -10-50m
Working Time -13h (Max.)
Service Life -100,000h
Power Supply -1*AA battery (Not included)
Power -3W
Voltage -3.7V
Capacity -400mAh
My observations from all three examples:
NOTE: The pictures were taken in daylight, under cover and the beam pictures again in daylight, indoors.
(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/jladks/toys/8701711b.jpg)
Good quality aluminium body. Everything screws in and out nicely, rubber seal on battery cover, decent enough paint job.
(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/jladks/toys/282e415e.jpg)
Plastic lens and reflector with nicely centred LED.
The switches work well on all.
(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/jladks/toys/3c9c9cd6.jpg)
Can tailstand, especially without the lanyard.
(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/jladks/toys/a6183704.jpg)
The LED appears to be directly driven, with limited direct contact with the body of the torch for heat sinking. The only contact is through the spring used to secure it in the body.
(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/jladks/toys/e29ac17b.jpg)
Nice reasonably uniform beam.
All three examples, as shown below, produced identical beams, a sign of good consistency in their manufacture:
(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/jladks/toys/70cbd6f6.jpg)
Feel decent and significantly better than what you would get for that money at a DIY shop.
Size:
(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/jladks/toys/002ee754.jpg)
and some comparisons:
(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/jladks/toys/e64bee08.jpg)
Beam brightness comparisons with the Livarno, the Jetbeam(on low) and the Romisen
(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/jladks/toys/03438ac2.jpg)
(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/jladks/toys/c5b312c5.jpg)
and with the Livarno and the Fenix E05
(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/jladks/toys/3dda0b74.jpg)
The overall output-brightness appears similar to the Fenix and the Jetbeam at low, though less than the Livarno, letting me to believe that:
the actual output is around 30 Lumens
10 Lumens per dollar.... :D
(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/jladks/toys/644c0167.jpg)
I could complain about the plastic reflector and lens but at the price I will be asking too much.
Having dropped the lens on tiles, I realise that plastic has its place too.. :whistle:
The fact that all three worked fine, looked identical and had no visible defects is a very good sign for me.
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unbelievable what you can get for $3 these days. :o
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unbelievable what you can get for $3 these days. :o
and people still complain that goods cost more nowadays.. :facepalm:
I tested it last night too.
The amount of light appears similar to the Fenix E05, however, as seen in the comparison pictures previously, you get a smaller hot spot but more spread, making this ideal for illuminating a room.
I compared it with a 2AA filament torch I had in a car and the amount of light produced by the Small sun was several times more and had better spread and reach... impressed.
The torch will light up a room or small area nicely and reasonably evenly.
Suitable for walks, going through the house, working in a computer or the car etc.
Not suitable for blinding people 1km away.. :D
Because of their size they will be good to leave, in their box, in the cars glove compartment until needed.
I forgot to add that I like the switch on top, feels a lot more normal and natural in an emergency, to me.
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Micro Lenser V9
This arrived today as part of a cheap package deal, with a LM Style ($14.95 +$4 for shipping from the States).
(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/jladks/toys/b2333c68.jpg)
(batteries shown for size comparison only)
From the manufacturer:
LED 1 x Nichia High End
Length 51,5 mm
Diameter 9,5 mm
Weight 11 g
Batteries 4 x AG3 1,5 V
Lumens 15 lm
Beam range 16 m
The batteries were included, which was nice.
My main complaint was the really weird place they stuck the “China” sticker; inside the reflector.
(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/jladks/toys/a5a448cb.jpg)
I managed to get it out using a SAK toothpick but it was a pain.
Luckily there was no lens.
Works with a push switch; stays on when it is pressed, switches off when released.
(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/jladks/toys/f54003dc.jpg)
This makes it easy to stay switched on accidentally if you put it in your pocket and manage to squeeze it by sitting on it or touching something with your leg.
The beam is nice, though not well centred, because the LED is a bit offset.
(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/jladks/toys/81cb5945.jpg)
(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/jladks/toys/69a65c0a.jpg)
The brightness is enough for a torch this small and looks like it will give the claimed 15 Lumens.
Quite small, but still fits ok in the hand; really designed for short term emergency use like finding your door lock.
(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/jladks/toys/8bf7a543.jpg)
The finish is fine.
For the price in this package I am happy, though I would not pay more than 3 Euro for it on its own.
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The Romisen RC-K4.
Romisen is considered a decent torch maker.
I totally agree. I think they're the best inexpensive torch on the market right now. I have a few of them and have been very happy with them. None have ever given me problems, and while they certainly don't have the same features of a more expensive light, for what I use them for they're just right.
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With the Romisen the workings, especially the way the threads work smoothly, the springs, internal and external finish etc. are a significant step above cheaper torches.
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For some reason that Small Sun really catches my eye. And at that price, hmm...
Does the switch seem durable?
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For some reason that Small Sun really catches my eye. And at that price, hmm...
Does the switch seem durable?
The first thing I thought when I opened its box and took it out was "This looks like a really good product; a lot better than what I expected".
The switch feels fine, it does not have any wobble or side to side movement as you may find in DIY shop torches. Good, positive feeling, looks quite basic but I have not disassembled it too much (see pictures posted previously).
I threw one in the glove compartment of the car and it is there, ready for when needed and taking very little space. Way brighter and smaller than my Energizer 2AA water resistant torch I used to have in the car tool box.
I have no idea how well the switch will last if I were to turn it on and off several times a day, but the maker is a reasonably well known cheap brand so I expect it to last OK.
The components seem similar to the ones used in the other CREE products of Small Sun which are noticeably more expensive (over $10.. :ahhh) (Check focalprice and Exduct)
There are some reviews in the site I bought it from, here:
http://www.focalprice.com/LF703B/Small_Sun_ZY5T1_CREE_1_Mode_100_Lumen_White_Light_LED_Flashlight_with_Wrist_Strap_Black.html
One person had a problem with the switch, though I have no idea how many were sold in total (1 problem out of 100 or 1 problem out of 100000?). ???
To get the lower price ($3) I bought 3 and used a discount code I found on the internet.
Honestly, I wished I bought a couple more as they will make good presents. If they last I may still order a few more for that purpose and to just leave around for any emergency use.
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Clickies aren't a big deal. As long as there's some kind of removable retainer holding it in, you can always replace them, and they're cheap. I'm not a fan of forward clickies, so I tend to swap them out for reverse clickies, and it's easy to do.
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I got a couple of bike light sets with a 0.5W 15Lm front light and a 0.2W rear, red, light
Front light on duration up to 25 hours and rear up to 60 hours
Nice deep reflector, all plastic.
I was surprised by the amount of electronics in them; possibly to enable charging batteries, as written in the manual.
Both are single mode only. (no flashing)
Some pictures:
(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/jladks/toys/e9a041d1.jpg)
(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/jladks/toys/0b71d100.jpg)
(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/jladks/toys/da58ba8f.jpg)
(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/jladks/toys/64d3da97.jpg)
(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/jladks/toys/0049826d.jpg)
(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/jladks/toys/13d23478.jpg)
(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/jladks/toys/011dbacb.jpg)
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In preparation for the summer I got this:
The Xtar D02 diving torch, well regarded in BLF etc.
I chose the 3AAA battery version so that I would have easy availability of batteries anywhere I go, whether I had a charger or not.
(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/jladks/toys/292389fc.jpg)
(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/jladks/toys/e60e36e1.jpg)
The torch arrived quickly (total cost $50) and came with a spare switch and rubber sealing rings.
(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/jladks/toys/d5682c50.jpg)
From the manufacturer’s site:
XTAR D02 200m Diving CREE XP-G R4 LED Flashlight
50000 life span CREE XP-G R4 LED
Electrodeless magnetic control switch
260 max luminous flux
Good condensing orange peeled reflector
250m max range (on land)
Constant circuit constant brightness
Power by 3 x AAA(1.5V) battery
Anodized aircraft 6061 aluminium body, PMMA head cover
Amphibious 200m deep diving sealed compression resisted design
Safety magnetic switch design
2.5~4.5V voltage range
NetWeight: 185g
Size:48.0mm(head dia) * 28.0mm(body dia) * 146.0mm(length)
(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/jladks/toys/ea9a23f6.jpg)
The torch was smaller than I expected; about the size of a C8 style torch.
(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/jladks/toys/401b0963.jpg)
Feels and looks well made. You can get cheaper diving torches but I have no idea if they will be as good as the Xtar.
It has a plastic front lens which can potentially be scratched, though if the plastic’s refractive index is similar to the water any scratches will not be noticed in the water as they will be “filled in”.
(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/jladks/toys/60d708d0.jpg)
The battery container appears twisted, though I have no idea if this is the way it should be or not. Works fine.
(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/jladks/toys/6e60a005.jpg)
The outside switch works without any, it seems, physical contact with the inside parts of it, possibly utilizing the effect a metal will produce in an electric field.
The torch stays off until you push the switch about half way up and then it starts getting brighter until it reaches its peak brightness when the switch goes all the way up.
The switch is quite hard to move and as pointed out before only seems to utilize half of its movement, as it is off in the first half. This variable beam brightness is useful in murky waters.
(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/jladks/toys/79a1ad74.jpg)
The contacts appear plated. Heat dissipation should not be a problem underwater.
(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/jladks/toys/b4342ab1.jpg)
At its full brightness the volume of light produced appears similar to the one produced by the Jetbeam BA20 so the claim for 260Lm seems realistic. (checked with a ceiling bounce test too).
The beam tests shown were performed indoors with some daylight, in the early afternoon.
Set-up:
(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/jladks/toys/d95341d3.jpg)
Xtar, Jetbeam both on low and Livarno
(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/jladks/toys/bba7eccb.jpg)
Xtar on high
(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/jladks/toys/8ee33eec.jpg)
Xtar and Jetbeam on high
(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/jladks/toys/271acb94.jpg)
(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/jladks/toys/b2b88d91.jpg)
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Romisen RC-T601
(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/jladks/toys/055a948f.jpg)
Though not on the Romisen website the general consensus seems to be that it is a genuine product. The construction and general look supports that too.
It is available with 2 or 5 modes and there is a theory that the 2 mode one has a better LED drive. I got the 5 ( high, medium, low and 2 Disco) mode one from : http://kaidomain.com/product/details.S010166 (http://kaidomain.com/product/details.S010166) as getting the 2 mode one, from another dealer, would have been noticeably more expensive.
I originally intended to get a KD-C8 but the reviews on the latest ones were a bit worrying.
The torch is nicely finished feels solid, has aluminium reflector, glass lens and uses springs for battery contacts on both ends, has a centred CREE XML-T6 LED with a plastic protective cover for the electronics and anodized threads.
(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/jladks/toys/f9fa202f.jpg)
(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/jladks/toys/07c25c06.jpg)
Head:
(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/jladks/toys/39314802.jpg)
It takes an 18650 battery and can accommodate protected ones easily, with no modification needed.
Does not tailstand and has the stupid “next mode memory” setting, so every time you switch it on it goes to the next setting.
Comes with two weird strike rings on the body, which means it will not fit into some bicycle torch holders easily.
(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/jladks/toys/ae9e93ee.jpg)
Depending on the battery voltage it will draw 1.7A to 1.4A on high.
Gets reasonably hot, quickly, something that I noticed on my other Romisen too.
Compared to another Romisen:
(Note the ® Vs ™ label)
(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/jladks/toys/45309f49.jpg)
Anodized threads
(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/jladks/toys/3f8927fb.jpg)
Compared to an Ultrafire C8:
(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/jladks/toys/5684d14b.jpg)
The Ultrafire cap had to be modified to take protected batteries.
(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/jladks/toys/05d60208.jpg)
The Romisen has 3mm Al at the threads and the Ultrafire only 1.8mm.
(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/jladks/toys/a2c75bae.jpg)
The body thickness is similar as the Ultrafire thickens after the threads
(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/jladks/toys/a1804666.jpg)
(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/jladks/toys/7135bf0f.jpg)
The Romisen weighs 166g and the Ultrafire only 140.
Beam comparisons:
From the Left: Romisen, Ultrafire, Jetbeam, Trustfire
(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/jladks/toys/5cfb0487.jpg)
High
(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/jladks/toys/a6260f9a.jpg)
Low
(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/jladks/toys/5298b450.jpg)
Romisen Vs Ultrafire
(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/jladks/toys/6b61880b.jpg)
And Vs Trustfire
(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/jladks/toys/d8c5eed0.jpg)
The Romisen beam is very impressive.
It noticeably outthrows the Ultrafire and the Trustfire, despite drawing a lower current form the battery, compared to the Ultrafire. The whole construction and electronics in it appear to be a class above the Ultrafire, though it costs 30% more, which it is definitely worth it.
It will light up objects nicely at an impressive distance, nearly 30% further away than the Ultrafire. Surprisingly, the Romisen on medium is as bright as the Ultrafire on high. The beam has a nice spread around the hot spot, too.
I can now annoy neighbours a lot further away than I thought possible before. :rofl:
If you can live with the weird strike rings and the extra length and weight then the Romisen is definitely worth the extra cost, compared to the cheaper Ultrafire.
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Good round-up mate. :tu: I have to say I've been quite impressed with the quality of my Romisen as well, they do seem to be a cut above many other 'cheap' lights.
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Thank you, this thread is getting pretty long even though I try to post only about the important torches. :tu: Good to see some people still actually read it. :D
Romisen are definitely worth the extra money, though I would not consider them that cheap. You do, for the extra money, get more upmarket finish, threads, possibly LED quality and electronics etc.
Really, for just a wee bit more you can get a Fenix or Jetbeam etc. with lower output but possibly better quality and functions. E.g., the Jetbeam BA20 is about $10 more than the RC-T601 above and should make most people pretty happy, for a long time.
However, a top brand with the throw of that Romisen will cost noticeably more...
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MXDL SA-22
(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/jladks/toys/bf02f211.jpg)
I am not big on zooms but this had a decent reputation on BLF so I got one.
Cree Q5 LED, runs on 3AAA or 1 18650 (adaptor supplied)
The torch is quite pretty.
Comes with a pocket clip and some rubber rings around its body.
Says Cree 7W on one side.
The zoom works by moving the LED with the reflector closer to or away from a concave (half) plastic lens, using a metal ring (the led does not, ever, touch the lens).
(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/jladks/toys/3dfad051.jpg)
(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/jladks/toys/443cf939.jpg)
(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/jladks/toys/6aa1d794.jpg)
The torch has three settings: High, low, disco.
It has “next mode memory”.
Claimed brightness is 400lm…. ::)
The contacts are protected by some magic paint.
(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/jladks/toys/17fc1d05.jpg)
(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/jladks/toys/277fc842.jpg)
I know this is very important to some people, so YES, it can tailstand!!
(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/jladks/toys/09c576fe.jpg)
Draws 0.5A on high with 3AA and 0.6A with 18650 both set ups with freshly charged batteries.
Considering that the 3AA were at 4.04V and the 18650 at 4.15V the light should be a bit brighter with the 18650, at least to begin with. I have no idea (did not test) if it is regulated or not.
The party trick of this torch is that by using the zoom you can see a real image of the LED, which looks like the Transformers symbol…
(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/jladks/toys/2c3aef26.jpg)
(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/jladks/toys/0f74157b.jpg)
Here are some beam shots, with the Romisen RC-K4 with only ;) 160lm.
The SA-22 is on the right.
SA-22 on high, both zoom extremes shown.
(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/jladks/toys/b5678528.jpg)
(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/jladks/toys/8f4d74fe.jpg)
And on low.
(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/jladks/toys/9bf6f049.jpg)
The total amount of light they produce appears similar. They both run on 3AAA and draw similar currents, though they have different LEDs and electronics.
Size comparison.
(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/jladks/toys/e8133151.jpg)
The quality is pretty decent for the price and there seems to be a reasonable (taking onto account the design) conduction of heat to the outside.
Good fun!
(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/jladks/toys/6ab0cfd7.jpg)
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Are you a fan of the Romison ones? they have one that ive been looking at for a few days and am curious as to how they hold up and work? im looking at the Cree XP-G R5 Romison RC-R5, however they say it.. JR
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I am not familiar with that model but Romisen have a solid reputation.
I am happy with mine, though I do not use them hard enough to really test them
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Is the zoom function similar to the focusing of Maglites? Otherwise, I guess I don't understand what it's used for? ???
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Is the zoom function similar to the focusing of Maglites? Otherwise, I guess I don't understand what it's used for? ???
Since I happened to have a mini maglite next to me.. :D
The difference is that in the maglite you move the head of the torch, with the reflector thus the LED changes position in the reflector altering the beam pattern, whereas here the head does not move but as you turn the green collar round the LED which is stuck on the very shallow reflector (see 2nd picture) moves up and down, with the reflector.
Thus as the beam becomes less focused, by moving the LED away from the ideal focusing position the beam becomes more spread out and less concentrated lighting a larger area.
As you get away from that ideal focusing position the thick lens can not converge the beam in any way so you are basically getting the light as it comes from the shallow reflector.
As shown in the pictures previously you go from a concentrated beam, a thrower, into a spread beam, a flooder in torch forum talk.
Thus you have various, functional and this is important compared to a maglite (allegedly), beam patterns, similar to carrying several torches with you.
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I am not familiar with that model but Romisen have a solid reputation.
I am happy with mine, though I do not use them hard enough to really test them
Im not one who thoroughly abuses my things, so longs as they hold up to above a normal day im happy, do you know anything about the AA size 14500 3v battery? thats the only thing i have against that model, (besides the thin wire clip) id have to get a new battery set, i mean it says that it will run on normal AA's but thats only 1.5v so i dont think its going to give off 100% unlike the 14500? JR
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I do not use 14500 but it seems that lights that use them both are brighter with the 14500.
Try posting your question in the Flashlight section where they may be some people using them.
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Ultrafire WF-501B XML-T6
(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/jladks/toys/9f98c517.jpg)
Firstly I was quite surprised by how small it was. It is something you can easily put in your pocket.
Length about 13cm, thickness at the head about 3cm and at the body about 2.2cm.
I expected it to be about the same size as my Ultrafire C8, which has the same basic specifications.
(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/jladks/toys/843a1d10.jpg)
Came with a sheath for $12.50, which is reasonable for this product.
Does not tailstand and its rear button is not textured, but works fine.
(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/jladks/toys/e0887d83.jpg)
It is a basic, lower tech torch, in that it has a drop-in XML-T6 module rather than a fitted, screw in one.
(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/jladks/toys/2ee91597.jpg)
This can cause problems with heat dissipation as there is not, in theory, that much contact between the LED module and the body, but my sample got hot, noticeably, very quickly so there is definitely enough heat transfer to the outside.
It has an Aluminium reflector and the drop in appears well constructed, with a nice, thick, polished smooth reflector and a glass, secured, lens
Appears well constructed, for the price.
(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/jladks/toys/b0ffeb3b.jpg)
It runs on one 18650 battery, drawing 1.4A on high.
Note that a protected battery will not fit easily in it.
It has 5 modes, high, medium, low and two disco, with mode memory.
The LED is nicely centred
The beam is a bit yellowish, like an ordinary filament lamp.
I took some beam shots with the C8 and the Jetbeam Ba20 on high.
(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/jladks/toys/6fedba3b.jpg)
(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/jladks/toys/85c897a7.jpg)
And also some with the C8 and the RT-601 on high, again.
(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/jladks/toys/3f308a81.jpg)
(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/jladks/toys/38f40068.jpg)
The wf-501 beam is decent enough, though it does not have a well defined hotspot. The beam appears similar to the one I get from the Jetbeam which, however, has an OP reflector. The volume of light seems similar to the C8.
It is not dark yet, so I will test for throw later.
Generally I am quite happy with what it gives you in such a small package.
(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/jladks/toys/4f010263.jpg)
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I used it at night.
The beam throw AND flood are a bit less than the C8.
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After reading some good things about them I ordered a Tank007 E09, to use as a keychain torch.
(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/jladks/toys/a03ea91a.jpg)
I liked the fact that it was similar in size to a Fenix E05 but had 3 power settings, reaching 120lm and was reasonably cheap (about half the price of the Fenix. Currently the Fenix can be had for under $20).
I got mine from Manafont (14.30) http://www.manafont.com/product_info.php/tank007-e09-xpe-r2-3mode-led-flashlight-complete-aluminum-box-set-black-aaa-p-9258 (http://www.manafont.com/product_info.php/tank007-e09-xpe-r2-3mode-led-flashlight-complete-aluminum-box-set-black-aaa-p-9258)
but the cheapest current price seems to be from Dinodirect ($11.99) http://www.dinodirect.com/flashlight-super-mini-tank007-e09-cree-r2-lumen-led.html?DDID=3520-616 (http://www.dinodirect.com/flashlight-super-mini-tank007-e09-cree-r2-lumen-led.html?DDID=3520-616)
Summary for the easily bored: I liked it and ordered 3 more, the end. Now go and read the next topic.
Tank007 (James Bond vehicle?) is a company similar to Romisen in that it produces/markets decent lower priced Torches, definitely a step above the lower end Chinese torches, costing of course more than them.
Their webpage http://www.tank007store.com/products/Tank007-E09-Mini-Keychain-Flashlight.html (http://www.tank007store.com/products/Tank007-E09-Mini-Keychain-Flashlight.html)
Come in: Black, Pink, Grey, purple and maybe more..
According to the site:
Product Description
Tank007 E09 Cree XP-E R3 Mini Keychain Flashlight
(Note: some sellers claim different R* version; it seems to be a product that changes continuously with several slightly different versions. See BLF for more)
Power Source: 1x AAA battery (Alkaline, NiMH; recommended: Eneloop, Lithium primary, 10440 Li-Ion, or Protected 10440 Li-Ion)
Run time: 120 lumens(33 minutes), 60 lumens(95 minutes), 10 lumens(1020 minutes)
7cm long and 1.5cm wide.
The torch comes in a nice plastic or aluminium container with spare o-rings
It is a bit longer than a Fenix E05 (E05-E09….)
(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/jladks/toys/ae02300a.jpg)
Can tailstand
(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/jladks/toys/8c8fba6f.jpg)
Comes with a smooth reflector.
(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/jladks/toys/2fc9da53.jpg)
There was some debris (looked like a dead insect or threads) inside the reflector. Unfortunately my understanding is that the whole head assembly is secured with glue and not designed to be taken easily apart, so I had to leave it like that. (see BLF, again, for more on that)
The finish is fine, no visible problems.
It also appears pretty tough. I have been carrying it on my keychain for a couple of weeks and there are still no visible scratches (from that… :D ).
Drop testing. :whistle: . the torch has been dropped several times from heights ranging from 1m to 2m on hard floors. Apart from some paint being scratched of from the head no other damage has happened.
The torch came with no instructions as such so originally I thought it was broken as it went from bright to really low after I played with it.. ::)
Basically it has a twist mechanism for operation. You switch it on by twisting (screwing in motion) the head and then you change modes by quickly turning the head clockwise-anticlockwise a bit.
The threads came over-lubricated and work better after some cleaning. Still, no way as smooth in operation as the Fenix or a Jetbeam etc.
The key ring was rubbish and started getting out of shap and stretching in a couple of days. I replaced it with one from a LM Micra.
I am running it on Duracells (Duraloops) but have also ordered some 10440 batteries too.
On high it is pretty bright and can be used as your main light, not needing to carry a bigger, “proper” light. The medium setting is also very good, comparable to the Fenix one and lasts longer. The low setting is quite low and should be useful for reading.
The lower settings are with PWM http://www.tigerhawkt3.com/welcomemat/ledfaqs.htm#2 so a noise can be heard on low and it is possible, with a camera, to see the “gaps” between the beams..
Some beam comparisons then..:
On high: Tank007 (120lm), Fenix (27lm), Jetbeam (270lm), Romisen (170lm)
(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/jladks/toys/9ee2154f.jpg)
Same, but designed to show the beams better:
(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/jladks/toys/e70e7a39.jpg)
Without the (single mode) Romisen. Tank007 on medium, Jetbeam on low (2 modes)
(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/jladks/toys/0e88104d.jpg)
Without the (single mode) Romisen. Tank007 on low, Jetbeam on low (2 modes)
(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/jladks/toys/a82d875f.jpg)
Pros: good quality
Small and powerful
Cheap
Cons:
Dirty and impossible to clean lens-reflector assembly.
Weak key ring
Not very smooth twist system
I ordered 3 more, to use and give as presents :tu:
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Oookay, this sounds quite tempting... :drool:.... I shouldn't have read it, now I want it... :D
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A quick write-up on some new torches and related items.
(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/jladks/toys/cc08b541.jpg)
More, with beam shots, when I have nothing better to do.
I also got some 14500 protected Trustfires and 10440 Ultrafires batteries. (Yes, they are dangerous, I know)
The 14500 Trustfires had a nice hologram in the pack.
(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/jladks/toys/86c2ef0f.jpg)
Tank007 E09
3, 2 pink one black.
(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/jladks/toys/5442510f.jpg)
They work fine, with both AAA and 14500 batteries (similar outputs, see BLF for more).
These had much smoother threads (clean) than my original one.
They came in the aluminium box, instead of the plastic one that my original one came in. The new black one has S/N before the serial number; the others and the original one do not. The new ones were from Dinodirect.
Comparison between the two types of boxes:
(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/jladks/toys/85682502.jpg)
Trustfire F25
(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/jladks/toys/f9fa5a0f.jpg)
Bought it because it looked fancy and glows.
Stainless steel – the cap feels a bit like a tin. 5 modes.
(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/jladks/toys/af1186b0.jpg)
Works fine with AA and 14500; brighter on 14500. Gets quite hot on high.
The rings glow nicely.
(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/jladks/toys/838ffbb6.jpg)
(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/jladks/toys/849b477e.jpg)
(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/jladks/toys/12014a0d.jpg)
(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/jladks/toys/f9dd3e06.jpg)
Should give about 240 lumens (see BLF). Good overall finish; looks expensive.
Romisen RC-G2
(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/jladks/toys/bc5cf6ff.jpg)
It was cheap and I like the brand.
Very good overall quality, nice threads.
(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/jladks/toys/b1a2e6c9.jpg)
“Tactical” momentary on, by pushing the button a bit.
Single mode, 80 lumens, OP reflector.
(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/jladks/toys/9a728171.jpg)
Runs only on AA!
UltraOK ZS-2
Search for “CREE Q5 LED 300 Lumens” on eBay for several copies.
I chose the colour because it looked nice.
(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/jladks/toys/36649d3f.jpg)
Push pull zoom, works fine on 14500 and AA, single mode.
Small, bright, works fine
Compared to the SA-22 (which runs on 18650 or 3 AAA)
They appear to have similar brightness on Lithium ion batteries.
Zoom out
(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/jladks/toys/54937ebb.jpg)
And in
(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/jladks/toys/e19db49b.jpg)
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that Trustfire F25 does look very cool. 8)
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that Trustfire F25 does look very cool. 8)
and when you switch it off, the front ring glows!!! :D
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Some more details and pictures of my newest torches, with beam comparison shots.
Firstly the latest arrival, an Ultrafire C3 from eBay for $9.80. It did not say what it was in the listing but from the pictures I assumed it would be a C3.
(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/jladks/toys/01-IMG_0950.jpg)
(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/jladks/toys/06-IMG_0967.jpg)
(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/jladks/toys/04-IMG_0957.jpg)
C3s have been around for a few years so there are many real and fake variations around. This one has 3 modes; High, Low and Strobe. Realistically, the high appears to be around 250 Lumens. (claimed 400…)
This is the “twin” of the Trustfire F25 and I bought it because it had a similar look.
(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/jladks/toys/02-IMG_0951.jpg)
The construction feels nearly as good as the Trustfire. It does not have the mid body glow in the dark rings of the Trustfire. The parts of these two are not really interchangeable, for my torches.
(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/jladks/toys/01-IMG_0950.jpg)
It also has a different, older, Cree LED, XR-E instead of the F25s XP-E. The Ultrafire was about 1g heavier than the Trustfire.. Works fine with AA and 14500.
Finally the C3 has an OP reflector and the F25 a smooth one.
(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/jladks/toys/05-IMG_0958.jpg)
(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/jladks/toys/27-IMG_1018.jpg)
(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/jladks/toys/30-IMG_1024.jpg)
The C3 cannot tailstand and has a very sensitive switch, where even the lightest touch can make it change modes.
Beam comparisons:
Firstly the F25 (on the left) with the C3 on high using 14500.
(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/jladks/toys/08-IMG_0971.jpg)
(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/jladks/toys/09-IMG_0972.jpg)
..and on their lowest setting
(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/jladks/toys/10-IMG_0976.jpg)
The C3 produces a more yellowish beam and the F25 appears a bit more powerful on high
Here is an interesting one: The F25 and C3 on high, with the C3 using an alkaline AA instead of a 14500..
(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/jladks/toys/22-IMG_0999.jpg)
And again: both on 14500
(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/jladks/toys/09-IMG_0972.jpg)
Also a comparison with the Jetbeam, all on high. The Jetbeam runs on 2 partly used AA alkalines from IKEA and still rules (270Lm, real ones).
(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/jladks/toys/14-IMG_0989.jpg)
(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/jladks/toys/15-IMG_0990.jpg)
Comparison with the Romisen RC-G2 (80Lm); the other two on high.
(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/jladks/toys/11-IMG_0978.jpg)
(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/jladks/toys/12-IMG_0979.jpg)
And the other two on low
(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/jladks/toys/13-IMG_0988.jpg)
Comparison with the Tank007 E09, on high, all on Li-ions.
(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/jladks/toys/28-IMG_1019.jpg)
(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/jladks/toys/29-IMG_1021.jpg)
On the topic of actual Lumens, see the difference between 80 Romisen Lumens and 100 Small Sun Lumens, both on AA batteries and both single mode. The Small sun is still pretty decent but definitely exaggerating a bit. (used for 1 weeks camping with no problems, by the way).
(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/jladks/toys/16-IMG_0991.jpg)
(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/jladks/toys/17-IMG_0992.jpg)
The Romisen is a pretty decent thrower too, despite its OP (but deep) reflector!!
Beam comparison between 2 zooms, on Li-ions
The Sa-22 and the UltraOk
(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/jladks/toys/18-IMG_0994.jpg)
Flood:
(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/jladks/toys/19-IMG_0995.jpg)
Throw..
(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/jladks/toys/20-IMG_0996.jpg)
I have used the UltraOk for a week, regularly and it is quite good for reading, exploring and has a nice throw, with the zoom. Makes the Sa-22 look unnecessary bulky.
Also see these; with the SA22 using a Li-Ion and the UltraOk an alkaline AA.
(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/jladks/toys/25-IMG_1004.jpg)
(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/jladks/toys/24-IMG_1003.jpg)
Note than when they were both on Li-ions they were nearly identical in power.
Some nice OP reflectors to finish
(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/jladks/toys/26-IMG_1007.jpg)
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You are getting quite a collection there dks. :tu:
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Thank you Gareth.
They are only cheap torches and unlike my multitools, knives, SAKs they are all users. I seem to need torches a lot more than Multitools, in everyday life :D.
Some have also been gifted to family members.
I am sure there are many people here with a lot more and fancier torches that do not feel the need to bore people by posting about them.. :)
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19.99 Euros from LIDL
My halogen spotlight seems to only have 1/2 the original capacity so this seemed interesting
(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/jladks/toys/02-IMG_1883.jpg)
(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/jladks/toys/01-IMG_1881.jpg)
(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/jladks/toys/03-IMG_1884.jpg)
(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/jladks/toys/04-IMG_1885.jpg)
No real heatsinking; plastic construction
(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/jladks/toys/06-IMG_1886.jpg)
(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/jladks/toys/07-IMG_1891.jpg)
The LED looks like a CREE model
(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/jladks/toys/05-IMG_1897.jpg)
(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/jladks/toys/08-IMG_1901.jpg)
(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/jladks/toys/09-IMG_1903.jpg)
the old spotlight
(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/jladks/toys/11-IMG_1905.jpg)
(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/jladks/toys/10-IMG_1904.jpg)
compared
(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/jladks/toys/12-IMG_1906.jpg)
Comes with an adaptor and can be run from the car.
2200mAh Liion battery located in the handle so,
very light as the body tube is empty.
Also has two clusters of smaller LEDs.
The main LED gives 180 Lm, for 2 hours
OK, but a bit expensive I think.
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b]MXDL SA-16[/b]
After hearing about it at BLF I jumped in and got this, all the way from the Far East, for a total of $5 :D . (http://budgetlightforum.com/node/13671 )
It arrived quickly in a white box in a padded envelope from Kaidomain.
(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/jladks/toys/2-IMG_2797.jpg)
Specifications:
Material Aluminium alloy
Emitter Brand CREE
Number of Emitters 1
Color BIN White
Emitter Type XR-E
Emitter BIN Q5
Voltage Input 3.7 V
Battery Configuration 1 x 18650 battery
Circuitry 1000mA
Brightness 350 lm
Runtime 1~2 hour
Number of Modes 3
Mode Arrangement Strong / Weak / Flash
Mode Memory No
Switch Type Button
Switch Location Bottom
Lens Glass
Reflector Aluminum Smooth
Strap Included Yes
Clip Included Yes
I have to say it: it is a beautiful torch! Decent finish, nicely rounded, no rough edges,, sexy rear button, silver button "frame"....
The front and back ends are silver, making a nice contrast with the brown main body:
(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/jladks/toys/4-IMG_2814.jpg)
(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/jladks/toys/7-IMG_2826.jpg)
Sizewise it is a bit smaller than a C8 type torch.
(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/jladks/toys/8-IMG_2827.jpg)
Comes with both a clip and a nice strap (see 1st picture)
The Cree XR-E is centred ok
(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/jladks/toys/6-IMG_2820.jpg)
The pill is screwed nicely in the head. The tailcap unscrews very smoothly!
There was a blue X on the plate attaching the spring to the pill.. The plate is a bit wonky.
(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/jladks/toys/1-IMG_2810.jpg)
Gets a bit warm on high, as is to be expected.
Tailstands, so it can be used as a room light in a blackout!
(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/jladks/toys/3-IMG_2803.jpg)
The beam, because of the silver aluminium ring securing the glass lens to the head, has a noticeable outer ring.
(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/jladks/toys/9-IMG_2833.jpg)
The torch is more of a thrower, with limited spill (enough to use).
For $5 it is definitely worth it. I am happy with it.
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I have become a bit fond of Maglite LED torches lately and since I was repairing a 2AA Non-LED Maglite I did a quick beam comparison between the Maglite and a couple of small, cheap torches.
Now the Maglite is unused and had batteries in, but had some oxidation from that lack of use in its contact point between the spring and the bottom screw-cap which meant no connection. I cleaned it (was a pain) put in two LSD batteries and took pictures. It will be returned to its owner later today.
Maglite Vs Small sun on an AA alkaline (or 25+ euro Vs 2 euro..) The Small sun claims 100 Lumens but it is more like 30, the Maglite claims 14, shown here in "tight beam mode"
(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/jladks/toys/IMG_3802_zps6b94b588.jpg)
(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/jladks/toys/IMG_3805_zpsebda03d1.jpg)
Maglite Vs Tank007 E09 on LiIons, on high
tight
(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/jladks/toys/IMG_3813_zpscca851e1.jpg)
wide
(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/jladks/toys/IMG_3816_zpse7594db5.jpg)
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Another cheapy.
(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/jladks/toys/IMG_4145.jpg)
Hming, 3W (has a police 3W label)
http://www.dinodirect.com/police-3w-mini-aluminium-alloy-cree-led-flashlight-300lm-torch-light-lamp-outdoor-camping-1aa-black-new.html
Claims 300Lm but looks more like 20.
Has one of these LEDs, Cree apparently, that you find on all the cheapest Cree torches.
(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/jladks/toys/IMG_4146.jpg)
$2.69 with some discount.
Plastic lens, thin walls, decent finish and beam.
Runs on 1 AA. Good to just leave somewhere in a room/car until it is needed. I will just put it in the basement and forget about it.
Still a lot brighter than most regular low Watt LED torches.
(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/jladks/toys/IMG_4147.jpg)
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Cheap torches comparison.
(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/jladks/toys/01-IMG_4161.jpg)
(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/jladks/toys/02-IMG_4163.jpg)
(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/jladks/toys/06-IMG_4178.jpg)
I got a free Dimco, Cree LED 1 AA torch, utilising the standard cheap Cree most decent cheap torches use and decided to do a quick comparison with 2 other similar 1 AA torches.
(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/jladks/toys/05-IMG_4173.jpg)
The Small Sun ZY-571 and the Hming.
(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/jladks/toys/07-IMG_4186.jpg)
The two older ones cost around $3 and the Dimco one possibly twice that much (I got it free but I think it was on sale for 5-6 euro…).
Sold/branded by: http://www.1-light.eu/one_light_productsall.php?catID=18&subcatID=358
The small sun has a side button and they are all single mode.
The Small sun is the longest by about 1/2cm and it is also the widest (head).
The Dimco came with a rubberised grip collar, a clip and a glow in the dark button.
The small sun has knurling and the Hming has a squared body tube. None feels like it would slip out of your hands.
The Dimco has a matt black colour and the other two a shiny black colour.
The Dimco has nice thick threads and the small sun is also good in that area. The Hming feels and is the cheapest. It also has a dirty/scratched front lens. Both the Dimco and the Hming have these stupid attack bezels that make them dangerous to users, especially small children.
(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/jladks/toys/03-IMG_4168.jpg)
(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/jladks/toys/04-IMG_4169.jpg)
None can tailstand, though the Small Sun should be able to, if you remove the lanyard.
As seen in the pictures the Dimco has the brightest hotspot and also appears brighter(35Lm claimed).
(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/jladks/toys/08-IMG_4187.jpg)
(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/jladks/toys/17-IMG_4230.jpg)
The Small sun seems a bit less bright. Because of their bezels the Dimco and the Hming have a non-circular beam pattern.
The Dimco draws, depending on the battery used, up to 0.35A, the Small sun 0.30A and the Hming 0.12A. On a similar Duracell battery both the dimco and the Small sun drew 0.30A. Going to a different, fresh battery made the Dimco draw 0.35 but the small sun stayed at 0.30. The Hming too stayed at 0.12A. Thus the Dimco is brighter and may even draw more current with eneloops.
Note that the fact that it draws more current is not necessary a good thing. Maybe the other two have more resistance but, maybe, they are just better regulated. Not very likely though as I assume they are all direct drive. The Hming should, however, last longer.
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I wanted a new headlight and I bought this KStools, Cree Zoom Torch.
(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/jladks/toys/09-IMG_4195.jpg)
100Lm are claimed.
(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/jladks/toys/10-IMG_4201.jpg)
The beam looks similar to my MXDL zoom torch (on the right) and they are probably using similar LEDs too.
(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/jladks/toys/14-IMG_4223.jpg)
Gold plating:
(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/jladks/toys/11-IMG_4220.jpg)
Wide beam (Ugly....):
(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/jladks/toys/12-IMG_4221.jpg)
Spot (Cropped picture):
(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/jladks/toys/13-IMG_4222.jpg)
Unfortunately the back does not close properly when you put batteries in, so I will get a replacement on Monday, thus I am not testing it.
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It is cheap for an HID so I decided to put it here
45/65/85 Watt settings, typical Ebay HID, 8500Lm claimed.
It was shipped using DHL so it arrived quickly.
Huge, long and thick. Makes you look stupid going around with it. Not to heavy.
(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/jladks/toys/IMG_4512.jpg)
(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/jladks/toys/IMG_4511.jpg)
(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/jladks/toys/IMG_4515.jpg)
(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/jladks/toys/IMG_4516.jpg)
Came in a box with 4 filters and an 8700mAh battery with two chargers (I charged the battery before using it)
(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/jladks/toys/IMG_4519.jpg)
(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/jladks/toys/IMG_4520.jpg)
The light bulb
(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/jladks/toys/IMG_4503.jpg)
(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/jladks/toys/IMG_4501.jpg)
In pieces
(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/jladks/toys/IMG_4498.jpg)
(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/jladks/toys/IMG_4507.jpg)
The beam can be focused using a system similar to Maglites. It seems to give the best throw with the reflector as far out as possible.
The beam is ringy and a bit green in the middle. This is only really noticeable in small distances. The bulb is a 4300K one (my choice).
(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/jladks/toys/IMG_4539.jpg)
You do notice the 3 different power settings but in actual use they all look very bright.
Using it close to you really messes your vision, making you see bright spots.
Definitely brighter than my other torches. Does not get too hot.
There are also 2 hidden flashing modes.
The main problem with these models is that the reflector is a bit small so you get a lot of spill.
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These arrived today worthy of this, low cost, thread.
Ultrafire E05, blue and red.
Similar to the Fenix E05 in both size and look but with a claimed output of about 150lm, compared to the 30lm of the Fenix.
(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/jladks/toys/IMG_7059.jpg)
They arrive in a nice box with a battery.
(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/jladks/toys/IMG_7057.jpg)
(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/jladks/toys/IMG_7063.jpg)
Cree XP-E LED, Aluminium body, single (twisty) mode. Polished reflector.
The price is about half that of the Fenix.
I did a quick comparison with the Fenix E05 and my gold standard, the Tank007 E09.
The Fenix and the Ultrafire are, supposedly, only able to run on AAA batteries whilst the Tank007 can also run on LiIons. The Tank007 has 3 brightness modes.
Size:
(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/jladks/toys/IMG_7101.jpg)
(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/jladks/toys/IMG_7100.jpg)
Weight:
(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/jladks/toys/IMG_7084.jpg)
Consistent weight!
(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/jladks/toys/IMG_7083.jpg)
(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/jladks/toys/IMG_7082.jpg)
(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/jladks/toys/IMG_7102.jpg)
A surprise on the pill…
It is marked as Tank007, something that makes me happy about its quality.
(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/jladks/toys/IMG_7064.jpg)
The 3 pills:
(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/jladks/toys/IMG_7130.jpg)
Difference in the reflectors and lens between the fenix and the Ultrafire:
(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/jladks/toys/IMG_7096.jpg)
What this means to the output beam:
(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/jladks/toys/IMG_7105.jpg)
(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/jladks/toys/IMG_7106.jpg)
Both Ultrafire torches together:
(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/jladks/toys/IMG_7111.jpg)
Fenix, Ultrafire, Tank007
(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/jladks/toys/IMG_7113.jpg)
(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/jladks/toys/IMG_7112.jpg)
The Ultrafire and the Tank007 seem to produce the same volume of light, but the beam is more focused in the ultrafire, which makes it a decent enough thrower for its size, in my night tests.
The finish for all 3 torches (when new) looks very good, though the fenix feels and looks more expensive.
They are all smooth to operate when new However I was disappointed by some intermittent problems that the Fenix has developed, that I was not able to fix (It was a gift that I gave and have replaced with a Tank007 now). I carry the Tank007 as it has proven bomb-proof, has 3 modes and can run on Li-Ions too.
Price wise the Tank007 is between the Fenix and the Ultrafire.
However it is larger than the other two.
Overall the Ultrafire seems like a good, bright and cheap torch, with a Tank007 pill that should serve you well. Due to its power it can be used a “proper” torch, on abike, for a walk in the forest etc.
However, it may be too bright for some, whereas the Fenix excels as a lower brightness reading light. It also has a longer runtime. The Fenix is the only one not to get warm when it is on for some time.
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Ultrafire S6
(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/jladks/toys/IMG_7090.jpg)
I got this as it was cheap and really small for an 18650 LiIon torch.
It also looks nice, Cree Q5 LED, polished reflector, glowing reflector rubber ring, claims of 500lm, though it must be around 300lm.
It has 3 modes (high, low and disco).
Size wise it is similar to an AA torch.
Compared to another smallish cheap 18650 ultrafire torch (501-B) you see how much smaller and leaner it is.
(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/jladks/toys/IMG_7089.jpg)
(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/jladks/toys/IMG_7087.jpg)
The quality is good but the rubber washers are not very tight and there is some rattling from the battery (like a Maglite..)
(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/jladks/toys/IMG_7095.jpg)
(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/jladks/toys/IMG_7091.jpg)
(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/jladks/toys/IMG_7092.jpg)
The beam is nice, but a bit white, which some like.
Here is a comparison with the other cheap Ultrafire (XML T6).
(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/jladks/toys/IMG_7136.jpg)
(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/jladks/toys/IMG_7135.jpg)
Overall, for the low price, you get a very nice, small but powerful and sexy looking torch.
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Great comparison, thanks for sharing!! I've been thinking about getting a smaller light, so this could be very helpful to me. :cheers:
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A surprise on the pill…
It is marked as Tank007, something that makes me happy about its quality.
(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/jladks/toys/IMG_7064.jpg)
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Now that's cool. :tu: The first thing I noticed in the above pic and I had the same thoughts regarding quality. :salute: I may see myself ordering one of those at one point. I think I might like a more floody version of it better but that's easily fixable with a bit of scotch tape. :D
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It is rare to find anything with a Cree LED at a reasonable price here so after a bit of thinking I got this.
(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/jladks/toys/IMG_20131222_115006.jpg)
It has a 5W Cree LED (claimed, unspecified) and by the size of the reflector it should be a thrower. It is currently being charged as I was not able to test it during the day, too much.
Price 19.99 euros.
(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/jladks/toys/IMG_20131222_114959.jpg)
Specifications:
(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/jladks/toys/IMG_20131222_115317.jpg)
The Reflector
(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/jladks/toys/IMG_20131222_115017-002.jpg)
The reflector is made from polished aluminium, nice, and the lens is plastic.
(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/jladks/toys/IMG_20131222_115146.jpg)
Inside:
(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/jladks/toys/IMG_20131222_115154.jpg)
The LED. Looks like an XP-G.
(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/jladks/toys/IMG_20131222_115132.jpg)
The main problem with these type of low cost spotlights tends to be the battery. Usually they do not last long and die after a few charges.
Some beam shots will come later.
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No beamshots across the town? :pok:
That thing looks like a real thrower. :ahhh
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I took a few quick pictures, using my usual target a building about 300m away.
I compared the Romicsen RC-T601, a halogen spotlight and the new LED spotlight.
I did not use a tripod so the speed I could use was 1/100, full zoom.
The illumination produced by the other two was too low to show using the camera but the new one was visible and noticeably brighter.
Here is the new one in action (look above the window, to the right)
(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/jladks/toys/IMG_7710.jpg)
I will try and take some better pictures with a tripod.
The beam was:
(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/jladks/toys/IMG_7707.jpg)
I have a lightmeter App on my phone so I made some comparison readings of the reflected light, beam reflected by the ceiling, in a dark room to see how bright the spotlight was (this is a simple techniques use to measure the total output, both throw and spill..
On full, readings in LUX:
Romisen RC-T601 = 160
Jetbeam BA20 = 101
Halogen Spotlight = 160
New LED spotlight 101 to 160(moved between these steps). (and 40 on low)
Trustfire TR3T6 403-640(moved between these steps)
As seen the readings are in steps, so whereas you can not see exactly what the reading is you get a good idea, especially when comparing. I would say that the new one is not as bright s the Romisen (better LED in that one) but noticeably brighter than the Jetbeam.
I will try and take some more readings......
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If anyone in the UK wants one of the focusable headtorches that were mentioned earlier, you can buy identical ones from CPC for not very much money. They munch through batteries at a rate of knots though.
They're often on special offer if you get their special offer catalogues.
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Bought as a joke. Looks like a sex toy. $12.59.
It is 30cm long, normally but extends to 40cm or any length in-between these. To extend you unscrew it by a quarter turn, extend (there is a spring too that pushes it out by a bit at the beginning).
(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/jladks/toys/IMG_7716.jpg)
(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/jladks/toys/IMG_7715.jpg)
I assumed that it would look like a regular torch when contracted and like a baton when extended but it just looks like a smaller baton when contracted and a larger one when extended. comes with a clip so as to be hanged from your belt etc.
(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/jladks/toys/IMG_20131223_182605.jpg)
It is quite solid and reassuringly heavy; this could cause damage if such a need arose. Will it last? I do not know.
(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/jladks/toys/IMG_20131223_182504.jpg)
Cree Q5, looks like an XR-E or XP-E (there are other models with better LEDs available too). It has a plastic, highly convex, lens so you get a uniform, wide beam in regular use, which lights a large area. When you extend it you get the image of the LED, but it still works as a torch.
(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/jladks/toys/IMG_7719.jpg)
It is not very bright. The overall machining and finish is good. Low, high and disco modes.
Fun!
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Bought from Wallbuys.
I got 3 of these as they were on offer at the time and I wanted some really small AA powered torches.
2 gold, 1 black
(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/jladks/toys/IMG_4063.jpg)
They are zooms, similar to the SK68 style torches and cost $3-$5
They have no branding at all, outside or inside.. ???
Work with AA and 10440 batteries.
Cree XPE LED.
Glass convex lens.
They are all 3 mode High, low, disco.
(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/jladks/toys/IMG_4065.jpg)
They produce around 100Lm though they are, surprisingly , advertised as producing 20.
They are reasonably bright.
All 3 have uniform beams; a good sign for QC.
On the left you see the output with LiMh AAs and on the right with 10440
(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/jladks/toys/IMG_4053.jpg)
(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/jladks/toys/IMG_4055.jpg)
They are not as bright as the SK68 style ones.
All 3 are well made and the zooming is easy. The finish is good and they come with a pocket clip.
(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/jladks/toys/IMG_4070.jpg)
Here is a comparison with two other AA torches
The gold one is extended (long throw) and the black one is contracted (spread)
(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/jladks/toys/IMG_4071.jpg)
(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/jladks/toys/IMG_4073.jpg)
Overall they are definitely worth the money and are really small for AA torches, especially ones that zoom.
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Another wallbuys buy.
Ultrafire A3
130Lm
Good finish, good feel to the switch.
Cree Q5 (possibly the same as the one used in Tank007 E09)
Orange peel reflector (deeeeeep)
Tank007 driver. :D (again)
(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/jladks/toys/IMG_4075.jpg)
(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/jladks/toys/IMG_4077.jpg)
Cheaper than similar Tank007 models.
Surprisingly long, as shown in the comparison photographs.
(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/jladks/toys/IMG_4057.jpg)
(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/jladks/toys/IMG_4079.jpg)
With an AA torch:
(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/jladks/toys/IMG_4058.jpg)
It has a tail button but some of the extra length is from the head.
Here is a comparison with the Tank007 E09 (beams)
(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/jladks/toys/IMG_4059.jpg)
The Ultrafire is on the right and the beam, despite the similar emitters, is a lot more focused.
The outputs are similar.
Although it is not stated, based on my testing, it runs on Li-Ions too.
(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/jladks/toys/IMG_4074.jpg)
Tank007 on a budget :D
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A sexy little thing, the Tank007 E10
(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/jladks/toys/IMG_4087.jpg)
Bought from eBay for under $14 total cost. (Tank007 models have doubled/tripled in price lately)
I got this because of the brand, the price I found it at and because I wanted a good qaulity small torch with a clip and sexy looks.
120Lm, 3 mode, rear button, smooth reflector, Cree XP-E LED.
(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/jladks/toys/IMG_4086.jpg)
Came in the usual box
(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/jladks/toys/IMG_4081.jpg)
In the box you find two rubber rings and a manual
(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/jladks/toys/IMG_4083.jpg)
(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/jladks/toys/IMG_4085.jpg)
(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/jladks/toys/IMG_4089.jpg)
(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/jladks/toys/IMG_4112.jpg)
Stainless steel head and rear button; aluminium body
(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/jladks/toys/IMG_4095.jpg)
(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/jladks/toys/IMG_4088.jpg)
There was a rough, sharp, spot on the head's grooves that I filed down a bit.
(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/jladks/toys/IMG_4094.jpg)
Otherwise the finish was very good - sexy little torch..
(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/jladks/toys/IMG_4091.jpg)
Some comparison shots
(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/jladks/toys/IMG_4098.jpg)
(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/jladks/toys/IMG_4106.jpg)
(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/jladks/toys/IMG_4114.jpg)
NOTE: the Ultrafire has an XR-E LED instead of the XP-E used by the tanks
Beam shots
E09 to the left, E10 to the right
(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/jladks/toys/IMG_4102.jpg)
Note the shape of the beam of the E10, a result of its head shape.
E10 to the right, E09 in the middle and A3 to the left (note the XR-E ring)
(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/jladks/toys/IMG_4110.jpg)
The overall light volume is similar.
Did I say it is a sexy light?
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I like this one quite a bit but would like it much more without the striking bezel. :doh:
This is a great addition to the market as for some reason the manufacturers don't see the potential of making 1xAAA powered flashlights with BOTH pocketclip and clicky switch. :tu:
The mode spacing looks good, maybe if the low was just a tad lower. :think:
I see they take Li-ions, did you try them? How warm/hot does the body get?
And how are the modes on the Li-ions. Do the lower ones remain the same or brighter?
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The beam shots are with Li-ions.
They get warm but not burning hot (the Tanks have glued heads so the heat could affect that too)
Visually the low modes appear similar between eneloops and LiIons
The Tank007 AAA models have a reputation of similar output with eneloops and LiIons so it makes sense.
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I do like the look of that E10. 8)
As Nik says; a decent quality, multi mode, AAA light with tail switch and pocket clip is an oddly rare beast. :think:
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I like this one quite a bit but would like it much more without the striking bezel. :doh:
This is a great addition to the market as for some reason the manufacturers don't see the potential of making 1xAAA powered flashlights with BOTH pocketclip and clicky switch. :tu:
The mode spacing looks good, maybe if the low was just a tad lower. :think:
I see they take Li-ions, did you try them? How warm/hot does the body get?
And how are the modes on the Li-ions. Do the lower ones remain the same or brighter?
Just reading a review that says the E09 head will fit on the E10. Might not work out a cheap option, but it does seem to be a solution. :)
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I will try switching heads later.
There is also the option of grinding the strike bezel down (SS, not painted) so that you do not spoil the look.
The bezel is not very aggressive (sharp).
Ther main issue I have is the price. The normal price is around $35 but you can find it for about $22, which is still Fenix money.
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After popular demand, one request being popular demand for this thread, here are the Tank007s E09 and E10 with switched heads, both working and both looking a lot uglier than they normally look.
(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/jladks/toys/IMG_4127.jpg)
(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/jladks/toys/IMG_4123.jpg)
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I don't know, the E10 body with the 09 head looks pretty good to me. Cheers for the experiment mate. :cheers:
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I had to oblige; you and Enki are the only two that read this thread :D
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I'm sure others read it too. ;) It's got 9500 views after all. I didn't open it that many times. :P
Thanks for the fit test. I'm not as much of a flashoholic as I used to be so it's great to have someone that keeps me/us up to date on the latest developments in the budget lights. I have about half a dozen Tank lights and like them very much. :tu:
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Two classic cheap diving torches. The same design/idea is used for many similar products, using a variety of emitters but with the same look. These were the cheaper, low end, versions.
These two were supposed to be the same, in different colours, but they are different.
The yellow one says Diving Flashlight on one side and Cree Q5 on the other.
The red one says shallow light on one side.
They both seem to have Cree XR-E LEDs and should be good for 200Lm
(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/jladks/toys/IMG_8150.jpg)
The specifications given by SPAMCORP (http://forum.multitool.org/index.php/topic,55947.0.html) ( http://www.[url=http://forum.multitool.org/index.php/topic,55947.0.html]SPAMCORP.com/Wholesale-F2-Cree-Q5-300LM-Waterproof-Diving-LED-Flashlight-POPLite-p-48259.html[/url] ) are:
Product name: F2 Cree Q5 LED Flashlight
Brightness:300 Lumens
Battery lifetime:140 Hours
Voltage:6 V
Current:800 mA
Max. Distance:350 m
Switch function: ON/OFF (please do not put it in to the water)
Waterproof grade:IPX-8
Casing colour: aluminium head + plastic body
Colour: black, blue, red, silver, yellow
Accessory: lanyard
Features:
F2 High Power LED Flashlight with 1pc US Cree Q5 white LED,4pcs AA batteries(not included),magnetic rotary switch, lanyard, packed into gift box
They both use a magnetic switch, so there is no hole where the switch is to let water in.
There construction is basic.
You have a plastic, thick plastic, tube an aluminium head with a plastic lens a pill with the LED and a switch. None of the parts from the one will fit on the other
The design is similar to the plastic money/key containers people use when swimming. The head and the body use two rubber rings to stop the water from coming in.
They are available with various battery types but I went for the 4AA model as the batteries are easy to find and safer if water comes in and shorts the circuit.
(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/jladks/toys/IMG_8152.jpg)
Inside
(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/jladks/toys/IMG_8163.jpg)
The two pills (red on the right)
(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/jladks/toys/IMG_8153.jpg)
(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/jladks/toys/IMG_8154.jpg)
And reflectors – LED part. The red one has a shiny piece of foil, whereas the yellow one has matt aluminium sides that act as a reflector too.
The beam profiles are similar – throwers
(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/jladks/toys/IMG_8182.jpg)
Their beam is similar to the one produced by the better and more powerful Xtar D02, shown here in the middle.
(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/jladks/toys/IMG_8183.jpg)
Quality wise the yellow, “diving flashlight” one has a bigger pill and a more solid feeling and looking switch. The red one has more space for the batteries so they rattle a bit whereas you have to squeeze them in the yellow one and thus they do not rattle.
They both have just one, similar, mode which you can operate by turning the switch either left or right.
They both, according to the internet, should be reasonably watertight. I bought them to give as gifts so they will be tested in the sea and the bath.
Interestingly, despite having an aluminium head, there is no contact between the pill and the head as they are separated by the plastic sides of the lens. Thus any heat will have a hard time being dissipated. I wonder if the ones using XML LEDs can be operated safely.. The Xtar has a pill that touches the outer aluminium body so the heat is removed very effectively in water, but we talking about a different class of product.
For 4AA, bright torches, they are quite cheap. Take into account the magnetic switch and their waterproofing (they should be ok for snorkeling) as well as the robustness of their construction and they are pretty good value for money.
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The second one today is a diving headlamp. I sometimes take pictures or use a speargun when I am diving/snorkeling and thus would like to have at least one hand free. The headlamp seemed like a good idea.
I chose the XML-T6 version, with no zoom as the price seemed reasonable.
(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/jladks/toys/IMG_20140430_205338.jpg)
It is a nice looking light with a head strap, rubber, and the ability to change angle, as with most such lights.
From SPAMCORP (http://forum.multitool.org/index.php/topic,55947.0.html) (http://www.[url=http://forum.multitool.org/index.php/topic,55947.0.html]SPAMCORP.com/CREE-XM-L-T6-1800LM-Diving-LED-Flashlight-Headlight-80M-p-86720.html[/url]) :
1.Diving flashlight, specially designed for the people who are crazy with diving.
2.With its outstanding performance, it is widelu used in personal diving and camping trip, underwater hunting and so on
3.The headlight suitable for any type of underwater lighting needs. Waterproof up to 80M, can be set to constant or flashing lights (AAA adapter)
4.Internal wiring applies the high efficient booster circuit, working voltage is wide and can utilize the batteries in the largest extent.
Specification:
Product name: CREE T6 1800LM LED Diving Flashlight Headlight
Emitter Brand/Type: CREE
Emitter BIN: T6
Mode: high /low / strobe
Battery Configurations: 3x AAA/1x 18650 3.6v/3.7v battery ( not include battery )
Switch Type: Twist (Twisty)
Brightness: 1800LM manufacturer rated
Color: green
Weight: 150G
Size: 33mm diameter
The two side caps can be removed to insert the batteries and so can the head. Thus, despite the rubber rings, you have a lot of possible water entrance points.
It has 3 modes, and secret SOS mode, operated my a magnetic switch on the top.
The head is made with nicely polished aluminium.
The reflector on the pill is also very nicely polished.
Despite taking 18650 LiIon batteries I would not feel comfortable using it in salt water with them as there is always the chance of a short circuit. Thus in the sea I will just use 3AAAs.
(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/jladks/toys/IMG_8167.jpg)
The pill looks like a standard drop-in.
(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/jladks/toys/IMG_8173.jpg)
Inside the plastic it has a full aluminium tube so it is pretty solid.
(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/jladks/toys/IMG_8174.jpg)
Again the pill has no contact with the aluminium head, You can see here the layer of clear plastic inside the head. I wonder how hot it will get.
(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/jladks/toys/IMG_8175.jpg)
The beam has a big and uniform spread, because of the LED’s size and the nicely polished reflector.
Here you can see it on the right, compared with the other diving lights shown before.
(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/jladks/toys/IMG_8190.jpg)
And with the Xtar.
(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/jladks/toys/IMG_8191.jpg)
It is not bad but I worry about the heat dissipitaion and the possibility for water to come inside. Lets see how it goes.
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So a dive light that one should "not put it in to the water". :think:
Interesting. ;)
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Great review's dks
you got me thinking.
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So a dive light that one should "not put it in to the water". :think:
Interesting. ;)
Only the switch.. :D I have no idea why they said that as it is magnetic and whether you use it in water or out of it should not matter. I assume they copied it from the instructions you get in 50m Casios about not operating their buttons under water.
Thank you Ja... now read all of them. :D
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A few weeks ago, inspired by Grant, I ordered one of these:
SL-2001A diving AAA penlight in yellow. from DX
http://www.dx.com/p/letterfire-sl-2001a-15000mcd-led-warm-white-diving-flashlight-yellow-2-x-aaa-294667
On the box there seem to be several available colours to choose from
It uses a typical 0.5W LED and gets power from 2 AAA batteries. It looks very similar to what doctors have been using for years to examine your mouth.
It is basically a two part construction. The plastic body with a copper metal running inside it and the opaque head with the LED. There is a rubber o-ring to keep the whole system sealed.
You twist it clockwise to turn it on and anticlockwise to switch it off. Single mode, claimed to work for 4 hours on a set of batteries, which is not really that long.
With these lights you need to twist it a bit more, after it switches off to make sure that if the head gets pushed down during storage or carrying the light will not go on. Purely mechanical system.
The light feels light and solid enough, for a cheap plastic torch.
It has a plastic clip and a lanyard hole and came in a decent enough box with English instructions outside and inside the box. It also has a phosphor dot at the end, so that it can be located at night.
It is reasonably bright (good enough to check inside someone’s mouth).
In theory the whole design should make it waterproof. The weak point is the single o-ring. Overscrewing and damaging the head or the threads is also a possibility.
DX says it should be OK for 20m, and it does seem decent enough for some snorkelling or for using it in the rain, thus protecting your more expensive tactical and pretty torches. (the ones you buy and never really use but tell everybody about how strong and great they are.. :D )
It is thin but its length makes it feel fine in the hand and it should go in your pen pocket easily, when not needed.
So, instead of buying a boring penlight you can have a nice colourful one that is also waterproof. Or you could get a Cree LED torch for the same money or just a bit more.
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I have left it in water, in the sink, for several minutes and no water came in so it is waterproof enough.
However, I am now pretty sure that it does not have an LED, but a regular incandescent light bulb, producing the usual orange tinted light. The pill is stuck in the head and it seemed like it had a bubble shape in the inside for the lamp, but it seems that that is just the actual standard lamp shape.
It appears to produce about 10Lm, which seems reasonable. I have contacted DX to see what they think.
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Starry Light SA-22 BLF edition
(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/jladks/toys/IMG_8314.jpg)
This torch has interested me for a bit so when I remembered I decided to get one.
The SA-22 was available originally with the usual 3 modes and two disco modes, cool white Cree XM-L2 U2 emitter.
Original modes: Low(150LM,12h)-Mid(400LM,4.5h)-High(880LM<2.25h)
It is/was still available in this version from Wallbuys, for $23. For a premium, similar product the Fenix LD41 and Jetbeam PA40 offer similar performance/style, at 3 times the price but they should be even better quality.
A different version was produced, as a special for Budgetlight forums (relevant thread: http://budgetlightforum.com/node/28859 ),which had just 4 modes (including a very low one) and no flashing modes. A Neutral white emitter option was also added.
The PWM of the BLF version was improved, so as to be unnoticeable. The specifications were:
4 modes, LL-L-M-H (0.2%, 2%, 25%, 100%), with memory, no blinky modes!
- Fast >2kHz PWM (maybe 10kHz), making the lower modes usable
- Longer runtimes due the better mode selection
- Neutral white XM-L2 T6 emitter
These were still available from the BLF linked site and were on offer for $20 plus shipping, which is a very good price.
I like the idea of a new emitter, being driven by standard AA batteries, 4 instead of the usual 3AAA you get to use in 18650 Li-Ion torches. Friendly and easy to buy batteries, with the XML brightness. You can use alkaline AAs as well but the current needed to drive the LED may be too high for them, so I would stick with Ni-Mh AAs.
Having already bought some 4AAA diving torches and seeing that they were good in the hand I ordered one, and it arrived in 2 weeks, fast. I did not pay any extra but it came with recorded delivery.
So the torch arrived in decent but crumpled box with instructions and a spare O-ring. It also included a decent, sheath. The box/specifications and the instructions are for the original model.
(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/jladks/toys/IMG_8291.jpg)
(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/jladks/toys/IMG_8310.jpg)
(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/jladks/toys/IMG_8311.jpg)
The push button (no momentary-on) controls the modes. It has a memory mode, provided you leave it off for a few seconds (off- memory mode).
It can tailstand.
You go through the modes by pressing the button gently (more gently than with most similar switches).
(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/jladks/toys/IMG_8315.jpg)
113.7g without batteries
(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/jladks/toys/IMG_8326.jpg)
It has reverse polarity protection and the pill in the head will only go in one way. (notice the grooves in the pill that have to match the ridges in the head.
(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/jladks/toys/IMG_8321.jpg)
The body has signs showing you which pole goes in, rather than which should stick out, which can be confusing.
(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/jladks/toys/IMG_8325.jpg)
The head is made from aluminium and it is a solid heavy thing. The emitter is centered and the reflector deep and polished. Glass lens.
The anodising at the point where the head meets the body, when screwed in was a bit worn, but nothing too visible. If you look at the pictures of the whole torch you will see the faint grey parts, on the black head.
The body is made from good quality Nylon but as the head is Aluminium you need to be carefull when you screw it in so as not to damege the threads (cross threading). The threads and the overal construction are very good, especially when you realise that this costs about the same as an Fenix E05 etc. Note that the head is dark, mat, black whilst the body is a slightly lighter, greyish colour. They could have easily made the head the same colour as the body. No biggie.
The most important for me is how good it feels in the hand. I have large hands but the flattened body feels much more natural than the usual circular bodies you get with torches. (knives, swords, pistols etc have similarly shaped handles, for a reason :) it works ). I could have done with a slightly fatter body, still flattened, but it should be fine for most people.
The Nylon feels really grippy too. There is also a slope near where the body meets the head, so that you hold it the right way up, also adding to the comfort. More torches should have flattened body.
The Lanyard and the sheath are good, similar to most, decent, ones you could buy. Not premium but good.
When compared with the Romisen RC T601 in a small dark room (OK, Toilet) I initially thought that the Romisen was brighter as it had a stronger hot spot. however when I reflected the light from the ceiling it was obvious that the SA-22 produces noticeably more light and a much nicer coloured beam.
This torch produces a nice, "wall of light" uniform beam, with still plenty of throw. It will light objects uniformly, at a large distance. To test it, it was given to several adults, and most importantly several children, to go and play with in a dark large open area. It came back after a few hours with plenty of battery charge left and no damage or complaints.
The fact that on several occasions I had it on medium, rather than bright thinking it was the highest setting shows how bright it is. Of course, once you realise the mistake and go to high the difference is noticeable.
On high the head did not get too hot.
PWM was impossible to notice. It gives the best impression of a current regulated torch I have seen.
The low mode is a few Lumens and is not as low as you would assume by it 0.2% rating. It appears to me to be around 10+ Lumens and is good enough for going round the house at night. It is similar to the beam brightness of a standard incandescent torch. On that mode the light should in theory stay on for a few weeks.
Lowest beam:
(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/jladks/toys/IMG_8301.jpg)
and lowest beam (right) compared with the lowest beam of standard XML torch (501B). Lots of difference.
(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/jladks/toys/IMG_8305.jpg)
Also their high beams. Despite the fact that the 501B is not a thrower the SA-22 has a much more uniform beam, whilst still maintaining a bright hot-spot.
(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/jladks/toys/IMG_8303.jpg)
Some comparison pictures with a 4AA torch:
(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/jladks/toys/IMG_8296.jpg)
(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/jladks/toys/IMG_8295.jpg)
and a 2AA one
(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/jladks/toys/IMG_8297.jpg)
With an 18650, thrower.
(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/jladks/toys/IMG_8292.jpg)
Notice the difference in head circumference. The SA-22 has a smaller head for more beam spread.
(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/jladks/toys/IMG_8294.jpg)
BUY one!!! A proper XML cree, driven at proper current, using common batteries, in a sexy package.
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Thanks for the write up and pictures. :cheers:
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BUY one!!! A proper XML cree, driven at proper current, using common batteries, in a sexy package.
I will, I will. As soon as the site is back up. :ahhh
And some more eneloops too. :doh:
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I took some torches to the beach and tested them in the water, up to a depth of 3m, whilst swimming/diving at a reasonable speed.
(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/jladks/toys/IMGP4934.jpg)
(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/jladks/toys/IMGP4977.jpg)
The two classic cheaper diving torches (4AA yellow and red) worked fine. They both produce a narrow, bright beam, useful for looking into the hiding holes of fish, or at a distance of a few metres.
The water did not manage to get in, so they worked fine. No noticeable temperature increase.
The one I was a bit worried about was the headlight, as it has 3 potential openings for water to get in.
To be on the safe side I used 3AAA alkalines in it so as as to avoid any surprises from LiIons or destroy any rechargeable batteries, if the water managed to get in.
This limited, noticeably, the brightness of the beam. It was still brighter than the other two though.
It worked well and enabled me to take pictures and swim with a free hand.
The beam is nicely spread with a middle hotspot, enabling you to see in opening but also see more around you. The uniformity of the beam means that you can make a video or take pictures without having the centre part "burned" from the high hotspot.
The position, on the top of you head, means that if you use a mask with clear silicone some light will get in and may get annoying. Also it means that there is not a lot of space to secure it, above the mask, so it may come off during fast movement.
(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/jladks/toys/IMGP4943.jpg)
Still, if you are not using flippers, it should stay in place.
At a depth of 3m
(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/jladks/toys/IMGP4957.jpg)
(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/jladks/toys/IMGP4939.jpg)
Some general comment for anybody using their torches underwater.
Do not spend more than you are willing to lose, as there is always the chance that you will lose your light or that they will get water in them (most will sink and not float)
Tighten them to the right amount. Too little and water may get in, too much and you may damage the threads or move the rubber seals out of position, on cheaper torches.
Many will have a switch movement that appears stiff out of the water. Do not worry as in the water, because of the lubrication provided by the water, they will work much smoother/easier.
After use rinse them with clean tap water and as soon as possible immerse them in a water bath for a while so as to remove all salt water. The salt, if not removed, will form crystals which can push part of the head etc apart.
If you have used sunscreen then use soapy water too.
Let them dry well before opening them. Wash your hands before opening them.
After opening them, again give them a quick wipe inside out and let them air dry for a bit.
Lubricate the rubber seals, contacts etc when needed. If the seal dries then water will get in.
Even if salt water gets in you may be able to save your torch if you immerse it in tap water for a few minutes and then dry it quickly, with a towel and in the sun
Note that some diving torches will get very hot out of the water. If possible avoid using them for too long out of the water.
When I got out I used the SA-22 as my beach torch (which still did get hot..)
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Reporting for reading/commenting duties. >:D
Glad they worked ok and some excellent advice on salt water and flashlight maintenance. :hatsoff:
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I think Gareth saw this post so I do not expect any more readers. :D
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Very cool. 8)
I actually really like the look of the BLF light, but I'm totally struggling to come up with any justification for it. :think:
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Very cool. 8)
I actually really like the look of the BLF light, but I'm totally struggling to come up with any justification for it. :think:
Because you work hard and YOU are worth a treat.
+ The sa-22 runs on AA batteries, has very good quality, is bright with a uniform beam and is a lot cheaper than similar offerings from other makers. Looks unusual and is good in the hand with decent modes. 18650 power with AAs.
I do remember you complaining about lights using only 3 batteries... well this uses 4.
- The price seems to have gone up now, a bit, and the web site is a bit unstable lately, and there seems to be no NW ones left...
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Another XML-U2 torch, $9.99.
Ultrafire F13
(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/jladks/toys/IMG_8423.jpg)
I got it because of the emitter and the fact that it looks good.
Big cooling fins, which is nice.
Specifications:
Emitter Type: XM-L U2
Battery Type: 26650, 18650
Battery Quantity: 1 x 18650 / 26650 Battery (not included)
Mode: 5 (High > Mid > Low > Strobe > SOS)
Mode Memory: No
This feels really good in the hand, because it is designed to take the 26650 batteries, so it has a thicker body.
(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/jladks/toys/IMG_8412.jpg)
The finish is good and the internal components look well made. It feels very solid, definitely a lot better made than the cheap XML lights we were getting 2 years ago.
I was surprised by the fact that this was the 1st cheap torch I got that had a plastic protective film on the lens that had to be removed. It shows that they care.
It says XML-T6 on the body, which is a bit worrying, though I think that they have used the newer U2 emitter in an older tube.
(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/jladks/toys/IMG_8424.jpg)
It came with three 18650 sleeves, for some weird reason. It has some glow in the dark rubber sealing rings, inside and around the lens. The modes look workable and moving through them is done by pushing gently on the robust feeling rear button.
Compared to the SA-22 it has a slightly more intense hot spot and a cooler light. Nice beam.
(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/jladks/toys/IMG_8425.jpg)
(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/jladks/toys/IMG_8426.jpg)
The Sa-22 is more than double the price, but feels nicer.
A good buy. A cheap, nicely made, torch that is bright with a nice beam and sexy looks.
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Fun, Fun, Fun.
$1.50.
Comes with 3 LR44 batteries.
(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/jladks/toys/IMG_20140715_214225.jpg)
(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/jladks/toys/IMG_20140715_214244.jpg)
Aluminium body with plastic head and tail cap.
The construction is fine but the buttons are a bit flimsy.
The LASER is bright (5mW supposedly) and can be seen on buildings a few hundred metres away. Impressive. There are some artefacts in the beam.
(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/jladks/toys/IMG_8442.jpg)
The LED is very bright, for its type.
(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/jladks/toys/IMG_8443.jpg)
The UV light is not very bright but works OK, showing the watermarks of money.
(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/jladks/toys/IMG_8449.jpg)
It has two buttons. One switches the LASER on, for as long as it is being pressed.
The other one controls the LED and the UV light in sequence.
Apart from the low quality switches there is nothing to complain about.
An extremely fun torch; possibly the most fun torch I have.
There are some other similar models, for more money, but I don not think the quality will be any different, unless you pay 10 or more times more. The batteries may cost more than $1.50..
Buy, buy, buy!!
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Another Laser, green and more powerful but also bigger.
YL-Laser 303
When I bought it it claimed to be 100 to 200mW (Chinese Watts ;) ) .
I got it for about $8 from SPAMCORP (http://forum.multitool.org/index.php/topic,55947.0.html)
http://www.[url=http://forum.multitool.org/index.php/topic,55947.0.html]SPAMCORP.com/G303-Adjustable-Focus-532nm-5mw-Green-Laser-PointerLight-Star-Cap-p-942235.html[/url]
(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/jladks/toys/IMG_8856.jpg)
Most lasers of this style and power are around $10.
Green is considered to be more visible than red. Runs on 18650 batteries.
NOTE: As I discovered after getting frustrated for 20 minutes, the battery goes in the wrong way round. The -ve goes in the body, rather than the +ve ....
Specifications from the sellers site:
Product name: G303 532nm 5mw Green Light Laser Pointer
Body material: Aerometal
Power supply :Power supply : 1 x 18650/1 x 16340 battery(not included)
Wave length: 532nm
Laser range: 200~5000m
Working voltage: DC=3.0-3.7V
Charging time: 3~5 hours
Spot size: 6M place <φ10mm.
Power: 1-200mw
Dimensions: 126x22x22mm(without the extended tube)
/158x22x22mm(with the extended tube)
sticker:
(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/jladks/toys/IMG_8868.jpg)
It has a key to allow its operation and switches on with a press button, only for as long as you keep it pressed.
Compared to a keychain model:
(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/jladks/toys/IMG_8860.jpg)
(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/jladks/toys/IMG_8877.jpg)
(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/jladks/toys/IMG_8878.jpg)
10 times heavier...
It has a zoom function, for a thicker or narrower spot.
It also comes with a diffraction attachment for pretty effects. At night you can turn the whole neighborhood into a magic place.
(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/jladks/toys/IMG_8876.jpg)
in pieces:
(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/jladks/toys/IMG_8861.jpg)
(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/jladks/toys/IMG_8865.jpg)
The switch was not working OK so I just soldered the whole system, so now it operates with just the push button.
(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/jladks/toys/IMG_8866.jpg)
(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/jladks/toys/IMG_8869.jpg)
Comparison beams with the keychain red laser.
Fat spot on the 303:
(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/jladks/toys/IMG_8872.jpg)
Small spot setting:
(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/jladks/toys/IMG_8874.jpg)
Difference in brightness at 30m, in DAYLIGHT.
(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/jladks/toys/IMG_8881.jpg)
The 303 is clearly visible in daylight on buildings a few hundred meters away, a significant increase in power compared to the red, keychain model.
At night it will put a bright spot on objects, as far away as I could see.
(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/jladks/toys/IMG_20140923_213502_1.jpg)
Definitely worth it for the fun factor, though the beam is visible by all at night so not very stealthy.
For safety I live the diffraction optics on, so that the beam is divided into many small spots, when I am not using it.
Not a toy for children :D
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Why is it that I really like the fact it has keys? :D
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I think it is a US legal requirement.
You have the keys (which are small and easy to lose) and the reverse battery insertion, so it is pretty safe. Unfortunately, by the time I realised how the battery goes in the switch (though it worked, according to my multimeter tests) was not operating the laser properly. I may have moved the connectors or maybe they were bad to begin with.... :whistle:
So I just overrode the switch..
Now, where is the other reader of this thread? :D
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Now, where is the other reader of this thread? :D
I was having dinner. (http://i1255.photobucket.com/albums/hh627/enki_ck/Smiley/StirPotChef.gif)
Sorry for being late. :whistle:
:D
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I was worried....
OK, see you two next time :salute:
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I was worried....
OK, see you two next time :salute:
What will you review for us next? :pok:
I see you're waiting for something from that bang bang shop. :whistle:
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just more cheap rubbish :D
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just more cheap rubbish :D
well you got me to buy at least two (scared to dig deeper :P ) of the products listed in this thread and I wouldn't call either of them rubbish. ;)
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This will be a bit different as it will be a review(ish)/comparison between two torches.
I got this Cofly KX-D010 from SPAMCORP (http://forum.multitool.org/index.php/topic,55947.0.html) http://www.[url=http://forum.multitool.org/index.php/topic,55947.0.html]SPAMCORP.com/led-flashlights/pp_20495.html[/url]
(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/jladks/toys/IMG_9280.jpg)
There is also the KX-D011 http://www.[url=http://forum.multitool.org/index.php/topic,55947.0.html]SPAMCORP.com/led-flashlights/pp_6188.html[/url] which seems identical, apart from the D010 having a green rubber ring between the lens and the head.
(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/jladks/toys/IMG_9282.jpg)
I got it for less than $5, when it was on offer.
The reason was that I have the Jetbeam BA20 and like the general look of it.
The Cofly clearly imitates the Jetbeam (and its sister products, e.g. Klarus).
The BA20 now costs around $30 but I have seen it cheaper. The Cofly costs around $8 to $10, so it is about 3 to 4 times cheaper,
Here is a shot with both torches.
(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/jladks/toys/IMG_9292.jpg)
Lets have a look at the Cofly
The bad...
It arrived with the rubber ring ring on the cap squeezed out.
(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/jladks/toys/IMG_9287.jpg)
This was because the ring is too big for the groove diameter... I just use it without it now.
(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/jladks/toys/IMG_9284.jpg)
(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/jladks/toys/IMG_9285.jpg)
The overall quality is OK, especially for a $5 torch. The anodising is similar to what we used to get from cheap Chinese torches 3 years (think 501B) ago and not up to the current standards of the cheap Chinese no brand torches.
It feels like a thin layer of paint. There was a small piece of the anodising missing (less than 1/2 a mm squared), which can be seen in some pictures.
The Jetbeam is much older, not used a lot, but its anodising is as new and feels like a good quality finish.
The threads are not as smooth as the Jetbeam
The clip seems solid and can be rotated around or removed.
It has 3 modes - High, Low and Disco, selected by the rear push button.
The low has good PWM and is usable.
By comparison the BA20 has two modes, selected by rotating the head, and instantaneous on, using the rear push button. It has current regulation for low. The low is very good for looking in cupboards or walking around the house in the dark, discreetly.
The Cofly uses an XP-E and the BA20 an XP-G (larger die, less throw)
The Cofly claims 220Lm and the BA20 270. They both seem to have similar brightness in the day, but the BA20 is noticeably brighter at night, so the Cofly does produce around 220Lm.
They both use 2AA batteries and can not be used with two LiIons, which is a shame
The Cofly weighs 61.7g and the BA20 76.5, without batteries. This is noticeable.
The BA20 feels heftier, and has a larger body.
The Cofly seems a bit too short for the 2AA batteries and you feel like you are damaging them when you close the cap, as you have to screw in with some force. The metal conduct on the cap will probably need to be shortened (filed down) by 1mm.
(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/jladks/toys/IMG_9283.jpg)
Cofly in pieces.
(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/jladks/toys/IMG_9298.jpg)
The reflector is a very mild OP. The BA20 has a standard OP reflecto and has a nice floody beam (also due to the larger die)
(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/jladks/toys/IMG_9306.jpg)
Some comparison shots:
Cofly on the right
(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/jladks/toys/IMG_9311.jpg)
High beam, Cofly beam on the right
(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/jladks/toys/IMG_9313.jpg)
Low
(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/jladks/toys/IMG_9314.jpg)
(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/jladks/toys/IMG_9310.jpg)
(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/jladks/toys/IMG_9308.jpg)
(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/jladks/toys/IMG_9309.jpg)
Overall, for the price, I am still not convinced.
For $5 or for even $10 it is not a bad light, though the rubber band shows little QC. However the BA20, especially if found around $25 (e.g. with coupons), is/feels like a much better torch. And, the Jetbeam has been around for some years now and has a solid reputation.
If you want to buy a few, then go with the Cofly. If you will only buy one, to actually use regularly then it may be worth saving for the Jetbeam (which is really not that expensive). I use the BA20 as my bedside-intruder alert- check things at night- first option torch.
Now lets wait for the two readers's comments..
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First reader, checking in. ;) Good review mate. I think I'll save my pennies for something else.
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Thank you Gareth. It is not a bad light, but the BA20 is not that much either.
Enki?
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Yes, I'm here. ;)
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Good. We have 100%.
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Classic Zoomies (apart from Maglite:) )
I got a new version of my UltraOK SK-68 type/style torch, by Ultrafire so I decided to do a comparison between the classic LED, Chinese cheap zoomies. (for more on the others see previous posts) There are really 3 main ones, the SK-68, the SA-22 and a newer no model one. Apart from the Sa-22 (see the beginning of this thread) they use AA or 14500 batteries. The SA-22 uses 18650 or 3AAAs. There are variations of the SK68 using 18650 too,
The UltraOK had the reputation of being the best quality SK68 at the time (2011ish) and the MXDL was THE Sa-22 to get.
So, the UltraOK still looks/feels like a better quality product.. there I said it.
Smoother, less sharp edges, better finish, less rattling, no squeezed rubber rings, smoother threads. (also no holes in the back of the body, at the ring)
(the Ultrafire cost less than $4.... in total)
OK, picture time.
The Ultrafire is red, the UltraOK silver, the no-name black and the MXDL black and big.
(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/jladks/toys/IMG_9328.jpg)
The older ones use older emitters. The No-Name one is slimmer.
(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/jladks/toys/IMG_9324.jpg)
Apart from the MXDL they have the pill screwed into the body- good heat removal and they zoom by pulling the head in and out. The pill of the MXDL "floats" up and down and it zooms by rotating a ring on the head. No contact with the body, very little heat removal, but it has been used a lot more than the others with no problems. So the heat removal has not been an issue. In seconds the others get hot, the MXDL stays cool.
(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/jladks/toys/IMG_8947.jpg)
(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/jladks/toys/IMG_8950.jpg)
(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/jladks/toys/IMG_9332.jpg)
(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/jladks/toys/IMG_9336.jpg)
(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/jladks/toys/IMG_9335.jpg)
No anodising inside the UltraOK
(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/jladks/toys/IMG_9337.jpg)
and also tighter/better fit for the batteries (Sanyos)
(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/jladks/toys/IMG_9334.jpg)
(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/jladks/toys/IMG_9339.jpg)
(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/jladks/toys/IMG_9340.jpg)
Beams
On high, using good Li-Ions
(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/jladks/toys/IMG_9342.jpg)
(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/jladks/toys/IMG_9341.jpg)
(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/jladks/toys/IMG_9345.jpg)Spot
The SK-68 were single mode (multimode ones available too)
The other two had low and disco modes.
Here you can see them in low mode.
(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/jladks/toys/IMG_9343.jpg)
Overall the no-name one was the least bright, on High.
http://www.[url=http://forum.multitool.org/index.php/topic,55947.0.html]SPAMCORP.com/CREE-XPE-Q5-600-Lumen-7W-Zoomable-LED-Flashlight-1x14500-p-907006.html[/url]
The others were similar in brightness.
The ultrafire had a squeezed O-ring (story of the week,,) and the anodiisng was not as good as the UltraOK. It also had thinner metal and a weird outer beam...
(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/jladks/toys/IMG_9344.jpg)
less robust spring..
(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/jladks/toys/IMG_9338.jpg)
I assume the Ultrafire will have a longer running time, with its newer emitter.
In summation, they are all good. for under $4 you get proven designs, bright and with a zoom.
...especially the SK-68 has been around for donkeys, and seems to be really tough, Buy one, if you can spare $4.
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Sipik Clone Wars. :ahhh
:P
I keep looking at those but can't bring myself to buy one. I don't think they'd get any use. Pure power but no run times is all I see in them. And a REALLY bulky body. :shrug: I might be wrong though as they seem rather popular. ;)
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The multi mode ones will have longer runtimes. And they run on aa batteries, are tough and can be had for 3 dollars with discounts. The no name one is only slightly bigger than an aa battery. Again $3. And pretty colours.
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Given that I already have the 1xAA/14500 zoomie covered with my Rominsen I can't quite ever see myself getting one, but there is no denying that they are great bang for the buck.
(http://i581.photobucket.com/albums/ss260/gareth_SAKs/Torches/romisen003.jpg)
(http://i581.photobucket.com/albums/ss260/gareth_SAKs/Torches/romisen005.jpg)
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The Romisen is 4 times more expensive :ahhh
I nearly got the Romisen a few years back when I was going through a Romisen phase, but did not for some reason.
Romisen are not talked about much lately and they do not seem to have made any new/different products in 3-4 years....In the day they were very popular. I still use most of the ones I got a few years ago.
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3 cheap, fun, lasers
They all cost around $2-$3 and have about the same power, RED, laser. They all use button batteries and aluminium bodies.
The top one has a laser, UV light and LED light. They all work well but the UV light is not very powerful.
The middle one has a laser and a decent LED light.
The lower one has laser and alight that can either blink or cycle through various light colours.
(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/jladks/toys/IMG_9414.jpg)
The two lower ones also turn into pens. The silver one is also a tablet stylus!! :ahhh
(see the black rubber end) The blue pen one does not have very good threads, so if you keep going from pen to Laser mode it may not last long. This will also be an issue with the other one as you are screwing an aluminium body onto plastic, weaker threads, which will at some point get damaged.
(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/jladks/toys/IMG_9416.jpg)
The Stylus one, when in "pen mode" can produce a beautiful cycling spectrum of light, through the crystals it has on one end.
(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/jladks/toys/IMG_9424.jpg)
With cost not really being an issue here which one should you get?
The stylus one offers lots of function but no proper light (just flashing and changing. It is trendy and fun and feels solid.
The blue pen has a good light and is small. It also looks the most "normal". The quality of the threads is a worry.
The fat blue one offers a good light and a UV (money checking) light. If you do not need a pen it is a good tool to have on your keychain
They all DRIVE CATS crazy!!!
Seriously buy all 3 - they are worth it.
(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/jladks/toys/IMG_9427.jpg)
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This is a great thread, dks! You are completely set for an apocalyptic version of flashlight tag!
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...and at very low cost... :D
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...and at very low cost... :D
:twak:
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These are chargers/batteries/lights so I am putting this in two places.
Seeing that the sun always shines here and that I use a lot of USB chargers I thought it would be a good idea to buy a solar PowerBank, charge it in the sun and then use it to charge various devices for free. I also thought that these could be connected directly to a device and charge it like solar charger, without even the need to store the charge.
I decided to get these two 30000mAh panels, as the price to capacity ratio seemed good. They are available in many places and I got mine from SPAMCORP (http://forum.multitool.org/index.php/topic,55947.0.html), but SPAMCORP (http://forum.multitool.org/index.php/topic,55947.0.html) is actually 30% cheaper (I saw it later).
I did not expect them to have 30000mAh but hoped for a decent capacity.
These have 3 issues:
The capacity is not bad and seems to be around 10000mAh on one and maybe 8000mah on the other, but it is not 30000mAh. It takes about 8-12 hours at about 1A to charge them fully and they can charge a 2000mAh phone battery a few times, verifying my estimates.
One of the indicator lights stopped working in one, but he rest still work.
The MAIN issue, however is that they are really useless as solar chargers, for themselves or for other devices. The solar panel is very small/weak (claimed 0.5W)and though it charges the battery it will take a few weeks to charge it fully (in bright sun). So, my idea of charging them during the day and using them at night was not practicable.
The device is capable of charging some devices with solar power, provided that they do not require a high current (less than 0.5 A).
I wrote a bad review about them but SPAMCORP (http://forum.multitool.org/index.php/topic,55947.0.html) does not publish bad reviews.
Good points:
Used as just a powerbank they perform well. Once you charge them they will provide 1A or 2A and can charge two devices at the same time.
They feel solid (the screws on them are ornamental)
They both have a two brightness levels LED, which is bright and should last for months when they are fully charged.
I got a refund for the one and used it to get a proper,5W 1A solar panel that can charge them and other devices directly.
Summarising, buy them as 10000mAh powerbanks that can charge at 1A and/or 2A and which in an emergency will be able to operate/charge some devices by using the sun and provide you with a long lasting light at night, from the charge they get from the sun
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I wanted a half decent lantern with a Cree LEDas the ones I have with 12 LEDs are really weak.
This model is available in many shops and eBay. It seems to be the same so I got this one of eBay for about $2.5 as it was cheaper (search for Cree lantern).
It is a very simple design - when the lens is screwed in (short/torch mode) you have a light with a floody beam.
When you extend the hood, you get a nice lantern with smooth uniform light that you can carry easily and hang from a hook.
The overall construction is basic and foolproof but feels solid and the plastic used has a quality feel.
(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/jladks/toys/IMG_9747.jpg)
It works with 3 AAA batteries and appears to use an older Cree ? emitter. From the light and the look of the LED it is definitely better than the usual LEDs you get on cheap no name torches. A power of 1W is claimed on the box, but some sellers claim 3W. I can not claim to know how many variants of this product are around, using different emitters. None seem to show the actual emitter....
(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/jladks/toys/IMG_9765.jpg)
Some beam comparisonsin torch mode (basic LED light in the middle, decent zooming torch on the right
(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/jladks/toys/IMG_9743.jpg)
(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/jladks/toys/IMG_9744.jpg)
Not as bright as a well driven, good zooming light, but brighter than the usual low cost 1W LEDs.
I believe that the runtime should be decent too, as the LED is not driven hard.
Only one mode (no low/high/disco)
As a lantern it works well, lighting up a small room and enabling you to move about, read etc. A lot better than the more expensive multi LED lanterns you can buy. And, you can also use it as a floody torch.
(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/jladks/toys/IMG_9756.jpg)
It is too short for 18650 batteries, but should be able to use shorter LiIons, with a tubular adapter. (the voltage and the current path allow that)
(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/jladks/toys/IMG_9757.jpg)
(I used an 18650 adapter for that picture, as it does not come with one)
When used as a lantern, very little light escapes from the top lens (theres is good reflection/diffraction)
(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/jladks/toys/IMG_9746.jpg)
A picture of the LED (it is not possible to take the hood off easily)
(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/jladks/toys/IMG_9753.jpg)
Overall, I am happy :D as it does what it says and feels quite solid and definitely worth the money. You will need to spend a lot more in a regular shop to get something that performs this well. :tu:
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I was hoping it would be something for me but alas, the 3AAA are a turn off for me, don't know why the makers insist on making those. I'd prefer something in the 2AA format. Nice lantern thought.
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I assume that LEDs like a PD of around 4.5V and 3 batteries can produce that, or maybe it's just for the round shape you can get with 3AAAs close to each other
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Yeah, but I think these are aimed for the folks than buy and use alkalies. For rechargeable batteries users that's not the ideal combo.
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I have one of those lanterns, and they are surprisingly bright and easy to use.
Great to have around the house.
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I really like the lanterns mentioned previously and have gotten another 5, to give.
The battery life is very good - a couple of weeks with a few hours of use every night on rechargeables.
....on to new things.
I got this Stanley minitripod 1-95-393, as it was on offer in a shop I was visiting. 3.5 Euro. It was cute and cheap. (other colours are also available)
(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/jladks/toys/IMG_0390.jpg)
It is a keychain light that can be used as a regular torch or as a standing torch, on a tripod, and can throw, in that position, a beam at upwards, at 45 degrees and vertically. If you only pull out the front leg you can also make it throw a beam downwards.
(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/jladks/toys/IMG_20150514_160449.jpg)
(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/jladks/toys/IMG_20150514_160357.jpg)
The beam is OK but weak by today's standards as the torch uses an old fashion LED (possibly a 0.5W one). It runs on watch style batteries. There are some other similar models with 3 LEDs.
(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/jladks/toys/IMG_20150514_160549.jpg)
The beam has a very strong purplish tint in the middle and a funny shape.
(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/jladks/toys/IMG_20150514_160513.jpg)
(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/jladks/toys/IMG_20150514_160530.jpg)
(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/jladks/toys/IMG_20150514_212201.jpg)
Only one power setting and no zoom
(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/jladks/toys/IMG_20150514_160957.jpg)
OK for the money and the "look"
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I remember seeing one of them at a B&Q (a big DIY store) and it was a heck of a lot more than 3.50 Euro! If I remember correctly it's got a much bigger brother that's marketed at builders and the like.
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:pok: enki-ck ?
It is available for sale on amazon UK for £13.5 which is way too much. I do remember seeing them around here for around the same, which is why I never got one before... but for what I paid I am happy as the batteries probably cost as much.
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What? :P
Do the legs serve as battery tubes? I see a potential problem there with bending or braking the contacts. :think:
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I was getting worried :D
No, the batteries are in the torche's head, behind the LED.
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Olight S80 Baton, Cheap - $25 from SPAMCORP (http://forum.multitool.org/index.php/topic,55947.0.html)
With that you get a branded light, charger, included 26650(3.7V) 400mAh battery, Diffuser, hard case... really the actual light is just a bonus :D
(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/jladks/toys/IMG_0475.jpg)
(http://forum.multitool.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=33813.0;attach=197243;image)
Looks good. Takes 5h to charge and the battery has to be a specific Olight one, in order for the charger to work.
Other 26650 batteries can be used, but not charged in the light. The olight battery was available for sale for about $11, so if you wanted to, you could have bough an extra one.
Tailstands!
Hidden Strobe
Orange peel reflector
Specs from Olight:
750 lumens 180 lumens 10 lumens
2 hrs 8 hrs 80 hrs
XML Cree LED
No PWM was noticed
Included:
(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/jladks/toys/IMG_0484.jpg)
(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/jladks/toys/IMG_0485.jpg)
(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/jladks/toys/IMG_0493.jpg)
(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/jladks/toys/IMG_0480.jpg)
(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/jladks/toys/IMG_0477.jpg)
Charger port - the newer olight models come with a charging base
(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/jladks/toys/IMG_0476.jpg)
High
(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/jladks/toys/IMG_0495.jpg)
Medium
(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/jladks/toys/IMG_0496.jpg)
low
(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/jladks/toys/IMG_0497.jpg)
with the diffuser on
(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/jladks/toys/IMG_0506.jpg)
(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/jladks/toys/IMG_0505.jpg)
I decided to take some comparison shots with the SA22 as they are both easy to use, floody, same cost lights.
(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/jladks/toys/IMG_0499.jpg)
high
(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/jladks/toys/IMG_0498.jpg)
medium for the olight and 3rd stem for the Sa22
(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/jladks/toys/IMG_0502.jpg)
low for both
(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/jladks/toys/IMG_0500.jpg)
The Olight appears a bit brighter on high (Ceiling Reflection test), with a more white tint. But, it does run on LiIons
Overall a very good buy, for the price.
The included battery and charger make it easy to use for people without LiIon chargers or experience.
The main issue I saw, was that it does not have anything to stop it from rolling, so if you put it down make sure that it is not pushed :D
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I got a couple more SK68, SPAMCORP (http://forum.multitool.org/index.php/topic,55947.0.html) edition, in Camouflage
XP-E Cree LED
3 modes, low, high, strobe
Next mode memory..
(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/jladks/toys/IMG_0449.jpg)
(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/jladks/toys/IMG_0445.jpg)
(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/jladks/toys/IMG_0451.jpg)
(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/jladks/toys/IMG_0473.jpg)
(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/jladks/toys/IMG_0474.jpg)
compared with some other similar models
(see previous posts)
(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/jladks/toys/IMG_0472.jpg)
(All on LiIons)
both have similar beams
(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/jladks/toys/IMG_0487.jpg)
high and low
(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/jladks/toys/IMG_0488.jpg)
with the UltraOk
(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/jladks/toys/IMG_0489.jpg)
(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/jladks/toys/IMG_0490.jpg)
The ultraOK has a warmer tint and is noticeably brighter
With the Ultrafire
(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/jladks/toys/IMG_0491.jpg)
(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/jladks/toys/IMG_0492.jpg)
Similar...
Good, shiny, thick anodising
Better quality than the Ultrafire
"Branded"
Very smooth operation, good, smooth threads.
Not very noticeable PWM on low
Overall a good product, though You just buy it for the look - TACTICAL !!!
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Olight S80 Baton, Cheap - $25 from SPAMCORP (http://forum.multitool.org/index.php/topic,55947.0.html)
With that you get a branded light, charger, included 26650(3.7V) 400mAh battery, Diffuser, hard case... really the actual light is just a bonus :D
(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/jladks/toys/IMG_0475.jpg)
(http://forum.multitool.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=33813.0;attach=197243;image)
Looks good. Takes 5h to charge and the battery has to be a specific Olight one, in order for the charger to work.
Other 26650 batteries can be used, but not charged in the light. The olight battery was available for sale for about $11, so if you wanted to, you could have bough an extra one.
Tailstands!
Hidden Strobe
Orange peel reflector
Specs from Olight:
750 lumens 180 lumens 10 lumens
2 hrs 8 hrs 80 hrs
XML Cree LED
No PWM was noticed
Included:
(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/jladks/toys/IMG_0484.jpg)
(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/jladks/toys/IMG_0485.jpg)
(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/jladks/toys/IMG_0493.jpg)
(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/jladks/toys/IMG_0480.jpg)
(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/jladks/toys/IMG_0477.jpg)
Charger port - the newer olight models come with a charging base
(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/jladks/toys/IMG_0476.jpg)
High
(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/jladks/toys/IMG_0495.jpg)
Medium
(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/jladks/toys/IMG_0496.jpg)
low
(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/jladks/toys/IMG_0497.jpg)
with the diffuser on
(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/jladks/toys/IMG_0506.jpg)
(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/jladks/toys/IMG_0505.jpg)
I decided to take some comparison shots with the SA22 as they are both easy to use, floody, same cost lights.
(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/jladks/toys/IMG_0499.jpg)
high
(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/jladks/toys/IMG_0498.jpg)
medium for the olight and 3rd stem for the Sa22
(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/jladks/toys/IMG_0502.jpg)
low for both
(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/jladks/toys/IMG_0500.jpg)
The Olight appears a bit brighter on high (Ceiling Reflection test), with a more white tint. But, it does run on LiIons
Overall a very good buy, for the price.
The included battery and charger make it easy to use for people without LiIon chargers or experience.
The main issue I saw, was that it does not have anything to stop it from rolling, so if you put it down make sure that it is not pushed :D
$25 is a flipping steal mate!
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I did post a link at the time... I think they have run out of stock, currently, but they may get them back....
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It took me ages to find this thread.... so eventually I had to go through all dks' posts (and lemme tell you, he spams a lot [and he spams with lots of pictures, too]), through lots of pictures... through lots of hairy men pictures... to finally arrive here, post a pic of my clone and forget about it.
But those lights are quite nice for their price.
(http://i246.photobucket.com/albums/gg95/nikoleta_rangelova/IMG_20150717_204205_zpsq4vqfblg.jpg) (http://s246.photobucket.com/user/nikoleta_rangelova/media/IMG_20150717_204205_zpsq4vqfblg.jpg.html)
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There is a link here through my signature :D
Really, only enki and Gareth read this..... :facepalm:
Good to have some new readers :salute:
Nice light ; they are classics.
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I also have 2 SK68 torches (black and red), but I'm planning to get few of those camo ones from SPAMCORP (http://forum.multitool.org/index.php/topic,55947.0.html)...
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Another regular reader :D
The camouflage ones are nice. Use the BLF coupon gbblf to get a discount, if they are not on offer...
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There is a link here through my signature :D
Really, only enki and Gareth read this..... :facepalm:
I don't even see any signature unless you mean your badges which, true, I don't read or check :ahhh
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Maybe you have selected the option not to show signatures.
There are a few MTO links under my posts, in the signature area.
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Maybe you have selected the option not to show signatures.
Ohhh, since there's such an option, I've probably done so, indeed :facepalm: I like stuff as simple as possible usually :cheers:
Anyway, if I'd seen the signature, I wouldn't have had the pleasure to browse all the hairy men pics :dd:
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Good to know you like hairy men.... :2tu:
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I'm a regular reader, although I don't post much...
I like these cheap LED flashlights, and I bought quite a few in the last year:
Convoy C8, Convoy S2+, couple of SK68's and some Nitecore and Xtar chargers along with different size Li Ion batteries.
I do own some more expensive torches, like Surefire, but I lately almost exclusively edc Convoy S2+ and I'm very satisfied with it.
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I have some branded lights too, but I just use whichever is closer to me.
The cheap ones seem to work just as good as the branded ones :D
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No thanks, hehe. some people have hair on all the wrong places sigh
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freaking phone and double posts
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You do not have to tell me twice :rofl:
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rofl
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rofl
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OK, so after some time I got some lights to give as stocking fillers, though I may keep some for myself.
1st the Nitecore tube, for about $6. There are several proper reviews of them around the forum, by the way.
I got a black, a blue and a pink one.
Specifications:
Max Output
45 lumens
Max Beam Distance
24 m
Max Beam Intensity
150 cd
Max Run time
48 h 0 m / 2 d
LED
High performance LED ???
Battery
Rechargeable Li-ion
Beam color
White light
Length
56.5 mm / 2.22 in
Head Size
21 mm / 0.83 in
Weight
9.6 g / 0.34 oz
(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/jladks/toys/IMG_1597_1.jpg)
You have the option of 1Lm, 45 Lm and through a "secret" menu the option for various setting between these, something that does not seem too useful/clever.
The light will go from low to high, but, it will not stop at high and instead it will start from low again.
A 3rd, 10 Lm, fixed mode, would have been more useful, but less gadgety.
There is an instant turbo mode, from off, if you keep the button pressed,which is just the 45Lm mode, faster/tactical.
It comes with two different sized key rings
It is small, not minuscule, but small.
Here is a comparison picture with a classic
(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/jladks/toys/IMG_1617.jpg)
and another one
(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/jladks/toys/IMG_1618.jpg)
and one with the definitive SAK
(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/jladks/toys/IMG_1620.jpg)
It is light but it does not feel flimsy
The packaging does not say much about charging, but it has the usual USB charging port most phones and tablets have nowadays, microusb, so charging it will be easy.
You connect it, a blue light comes on, and when it goes off it is charged.
(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/jladks/toys/IMG_1595.jpg)
The charging port is covered with a rubber cover.
Inside the light you see the battery, which remind me of LiPo batteries used in RC cars/toys, rather than of a LiIon battery.
(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/jladks/toys/IMG_1585.jpg)
The wires are also visible
(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/jladks/toys/IMG_1600.jpg)
The beam is floody and at small distances it has a weird shape
(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/jladks/toys/IMG_1635_1.jpg)
However, it is bright enough
Compared with the Ultrafire A3 (on high), which produces around 100Lm
(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/jladks/toys/IMG_1623.jpg)
on Low there is a difference
(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/jladks/toys/IMG_1624.jpg)
but on high not so much
(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/jladks/toys/IMG_1625.jpg)
Also compared with another, floody, light
(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/jladks/toys/IMG_1627.jpg)
A good buy, which has the backing of a proper company.
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2nd, something cheaper, $0.70.
I am sure replacing the battery will cost more..
It comes in carious colours, and you need to keep the switch pressed for it to give out light (shown here next to a proper SAK :P :D )
(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/jladks/toys/IMG_1621.jpg)
Compared with the nitecore above (low)
(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/jladks/toys/IMG_1632.jpg)
again (high)
(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/jladks/toys/IMG_1633_1.jpg)
Less bright, but decent. It seems to give out about 20Lm.
and compared with a "police" AA light
(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/jladks/toys/IMG_1638_1.jpg)
A classic keychain light, a lot more useful in reality than a fancy multi mode lumen monster
(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/jladks/toys/IMG_1619.jpg)
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BLF Special edition, A6 XPL
Specifications
Product name: BLF A6 CREE XPL Non-anodized EDC LED Flashlight
Brand: BLF
Model: A6
Emitter Brand CREE
Emitter Type: XPL
Circuit Driver: A17DD-L FET+1 Driver
Light Tint: 3D (5000K), 1A (6500K), 5A(4000K)
Material: Non-anodized
Mode: Group 1:Moon-Low-Med1-Med2-High1-High2-Turbo(Short press<0.5s)
Group 2: Low,Med,High,Turbo (Short press<0.5s)
+
Moon-Turbo-Tactical Strobe-Battcheck-Bike Flasher (Medium press 0.5s-1.5s)
Battery Configurations: 1 x 18650 battery (not included)
Switch Type: clicky
Switch Location: tail of the flashlight
Impact Resistant 1 meter
Max Output: 1600lumens (max) (use 18650 protected power battery)
Working Voltage: 2.8-4.35v
Lens: Toughened ultra-clear mineral glass
with anti-reflective coating
Reflector: Orange Peel Reflector
Carrying Clip included
Waterproof: IPX-8 waterproof 2 meters
Color: Silver
Weight: 80g without battery
Size: 120mm x 24mm(length x body diameter)
A good looking torch
(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/jladks/toys/toys002/IMG_2642.jpg)
Special driver, limited edition with branding on the pill. XPL emitter.
(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/jladks/toys/toys002/IMG_2653.jpg)
Feels solid and is well finished.
(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/jladks/toys/toys002/IMG_2645.jpg)
compared with another 18650, small light
(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/jladks/toys/toys002/IMG_2644.jpg)
(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/jladks/toys/toys002/IMG_2655.jpg)
came with some accessories
(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/jladks/toys/toys002/IMG_2717.jpg)
Solid clip
(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/jladks/toys/toys002/IMG_2660.jpg)
OP reflector
(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/jladks/toys/toys002/IMG_2657.jpg)
Compared with the Olight S80 on full
The A6 is definitely brighter
(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/jladks/toys/toys002/IMG_2702.jpg)
It is also brighter than the SA22
Not as bright as the TR 3T6
(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/jladks/toys/toys002/IMG_2708.jpg)
Clever modes, reasonably easy to use
Battery level mode :)
Bright but not for long.
The light goes off max after less than a minute.
Even so, it gets hot quickly.
In summary, the main problem with it is that it gets hot quickly and switches to minimum.
I was replacing a socket at nigh in dark room, and after about 5 minutes (including the automatic stepdown) it got so hot it went to minimum, leaving me basically in the dark.
The light is definitely bright but it gets too hot very quickly even in cold weather and uses up power fastly. (Panasonic unprotected, 3400mAh)
It should work better as a bike light, with the wind providing additional cooling.
PWM is not noticeable and the battery check mode is a good addition.
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Blackwater Kite, 140Lm, rechargeable (several brands/finishes available)
Two mode twistie
(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/jladks/toys/toys002/IMG_2686.jpg)
(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/jladks/toys/toys002/IMG_2677.jpg)
(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/jladks/toys/toys002/IMG_2676.jpg)
Size comparison
(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/jladks/toys/toys002/IMG_2663.jpg)
(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/jladks/toys/toys002/IMG_2661.jpg)
(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/jladks/toys/toys002/IMG_2685.jpg)
Taken apart
(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/jladks/toys/toys002/IMG_2666.jpg)
(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/jladks/toys/toys002/IMG_2667.jpg)
(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/jladks/toys/toys002/IMG_2668.jpg)
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Compared with the Tank007 E09
Both on high
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and both on low
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The light volume is similar, but the E09 has a better throw
The anodising is OK but not as goo as that of Fenix, Olight etc. No missing anodising.
Charging
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It charges via a standard micro USB wire. There is a red LED indicating charging, which turns to green when it is charged.
The included battery gets charged to 4.2V before the charging stops. A good, safe, voltage.
Because of its size it does not fit in my chargers, but can be charged using suitable wires, if needed.
The battery capacity is low, as expected.
NOTE : to charge it for the first time you need to take off the bottom battery cover and remove a plastic insulator that is included, to protect the battery from turning on during transport
The charging USB socket seems good enough.
Is this a good replacement for an AAA light?
Definitely the brightness is similar.
Smaller.
It stayed cool enough.
PWM was barely noticeable (much better than the E09)
The Capacity is much lower and I doubt you can get 30 minutes on high. The voltage drooped significantly after little use (my testing period).
The question is whether it is easier to find AAA batteries or a micro USB charger. They are both common enough, but in a power cut the AAA option will win.
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Thanks for the awesome and quick review !
on Monday I'm definitely going to our post office to check if something hasn't arrived but they failed to notify me. it's been over a month already.
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Hm, so only the two modes, low and high?
I like the integrated charger option, one of the reasons I haven't yet pulled the trigger on similar lights. I have a Quantum D2 that uses these cells and have thought of buying a few of these to give away as gifts but the chargers I found were all too pricy for what they were.
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The charger seems to work OK. I would have been happier using other chargers, but the cell is too small. I have to see if it fits in my low end liion chargers.
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I know Ric from cnqualitygoods used to sell spacers for them to fit regular chargers. Can't remember what his new site is. :think:
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I thought he run two sites. Really, with over 20 micro USBs around the house, the cars etc. I do not see me bothering with a charger :D
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Thanks for the review mate. I rather like the look of that. :facepalm:
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And since mine hasn't arrived yet, I'm so freakin tempted to buy an Olight S15 Baton or whatever the name exactly was :think:
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Thanks for the review mate. I rather like the look of that. :facepalm:
You provided the link :cheers:
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ThruNite Ti CREE LED
I do not know if a titanium alloy torch can be considered budget, but I have left this thread all alone for too long.
I wondered into BLF, started looking at titanium lights, and ended up buying this, mainly for the impressive output, from such a small light.
The cost was around 30Euro, to my door.
This is the premium version of the ThruNite AAA lights, but, what I liked was than instead of just giving it a Titanium body, whilst keeping the rest the same as with the other models of the series that cost a lot less, they changed the LED to an XP-L Cree, which gives out 162Lm, from a regular battery, as opposed to the 120ish of most other lights, from LiIons.
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It comes in a simple box, with a spear rubber gasket, a pocket clip and a key ring attachment.
Specifications, from the manufacturer:
Small but powerful one AAA flashlight, max output up to 162 lumen.
Four output modes: firefly, low, high and a hidden strobe.
LED: Cree XP-L V4 LED with a lifespan of 20+years of run time.
Battery: 1 AAA battery (Working voltage: 0.9-3V)
Dimension: 70mm(length)*14mm(head diameter)
Weight: 16 gram without battery.
OP Reflector give perfect flood.
Titanium alloy(TC4) body with polished finish.
Waterproof to IPX-8 standard.
Convenient twist switch for one hand operation.
Output and run time:
- Firefly: 0.5 Lm(115h),
- Low: 12 Lm(6.3h),
- High: 162Lm(0.5h),
- Strobe:162Lm(1 hour)
The mode memory is unusual. Basically, if you do not switch the light on in 10 seconds, it always starts on low
It looks nice, polished, though the weaker LUMINTOP looks nicer, at least in photographs.
The finish was fine but the threads needed a bit of cleaning – now it works very smoothly.
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The comparison is done with the Tank007 E09, on LiIons. The Thrunite is using an alkaline battery, as I expected the higher initial voltage to give it a brighter light.
They have similar size.
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Even though the thrunite is not supposed to use LiIons, it has been tested with them, in other forums, and it works fine, getting very hot. The emitter is similar in output to an XML one, but smaller.
Both on high, the Thrunite is on the left.
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By using it here and to illuminate various objects the thrunite produces the same intensity as the Tank007, but in a larger area- like using several Tank007s together to illuminate a larger area.
The thrunite has an OP reflector- the Tank007 has a polished, thrower style, one.
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The beam is smooth and looks clean. It is supposed to be cool white.
Overall, it is an impressive light, both in quality and in output. It does dwarf the light of other AAA lights.
It will be nice to see the same driver and LED in aluminium lights, for 10, 15 euro.
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Archon V10s
Lower cost range of proper dive lights. Very good construction and finish. It is advertised as red but it was more purply
Around 25 Euro.
From the manufacturer:
◆Bulb: CREE XM-L2 U2 (Max 860 lumens)
◆Output levels: high > low > SOS
◆Waterproof: 60 Meters underwater
Double O-rings, Battery level indication, nice squared threads, smooth operation, nice, hefty feel.
Only two modes, so no confusion (and SOS)
Easy to operate under water and produces a very nice uniform beam, good for seeing and videoing whilst diving
A definite improvement over the plastic (usually yellow) diving lights, for not much more - Save your money and buy this instead of the really cheap ones (hint- they will leak easily)
Will also make a prety decent regular light for use in the rain, mud, dusty environments
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Archon W1A
A prety decent and clever Diving light
Clips to the strap of your mask and stays there securely. Around 15 Euro
From the manufacturer
◆Bulb: CREE XP-E R3 LED (max 75 lumens)
◆One output level: high only
◆With diving mask clip
◆Waterproof: 100 Meters underwater
Very nice construction and finish.
Works very well, only one mode which simplifies things.
Because it is a twisty you have to be careful not to twist it too much when switching off as this will affect the water resistance.
I suggest that you just leave it on throughout the dive and only switch it off after a wash with fresh water.
It could also be useful when there is a lot of rain/mud/dust
Takes only regular AAA batteries - No Lithium Ion batteries.
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Thorfire BLF Q8
I like the BLF models and have bought a few of them in the past
This can be had for 37Euro including shipping.
Considering that it has 4 XPL emitters and a realistic 5000Lm output it can be considered as a low cost, good value light.
This arrived in a good but plain cardboard box which contained a spare button and some spare gaskets.
It has the Can format which makes it short and stout. The 4 18650 batteries are in parallel.
Because of this it can be run with any combination of 1 to 4 batteries but 4, button top, ones re needed for best performance. I used 4 protected Panasonics, as I wanted 4 same button top batteries (it works with flat tops too, but you re not sure if +ve poles re touching the conducting plate.
It uses a ramping system, where you start from low and as long as you keep the power button pressed it will slowly go to maximum (you can stop at any brightness) You can go from high to low the same way - plenty of reviews in BLF for this light. This is the latest generation model, with better QA/QC.
It has a tripod mount and small green light stays on in the button when it is off, so that you can find it.
Comparison beam shots with the Trustfire TR-3T6 3XML emitter model (on 2 18650, but it can take 3 with the extension tube) and the BLF A6 single XPL model . These are both very bright lights.
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Nice one!
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It is.
It is very impressive when used in open spaces, like the countryside ,where it illuminates a large area reaching way ahead.
You can then see the actual power it has, compared to other powerful lights.
Ever since Enci disappeared and Gareth semi-disappeared this thread get very few replies :D
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Do you have some outside photos?
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not with the new lights - I did some throw tests a few years ago
I need to do some again
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Following a request, here are some beam comparison shots. These are all powerful torches and a comparison shot with the car headlights, on high beam is included, to put the torch beams into perspective.
I am including the claimed lumens, though some may be a bit exaggerated. The Trustfire was on 2 batteries, but it can also be run on 3, for a slight increase in brightness.
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Great photos dks! :salute:
That BLF is one powerful flashlight... :drool:
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all the lights used are powerful but the Q8 is on a different level.
the car's headlights are pretty decent too - never felt that they were weak when driving, for comparison
the lights were at about 1.5m from the ground.
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Went for the cheapest C8
MECO C8
The emitter is supposedly a T6 but not a Cree one. Still bright enough.
18650
I took some comparison shots with the Romisen RC-T601
Meco on the left in the beam photograph
The Meco is less solid, slightly less bright but has more throw. For under 6 Euro it is worth it. Good threads, 5 modes, bad PWM.
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Utorch V8 XPL Available with stepless dimming or separate modes (cheaper)
Compared with the BLF A6
Impressive matt finish, nice squared threads - It can easily carry a Fenix, Olight etc. sticker.
Appears only slightly dimmer than the A6 Avery good buy, at half the money, under 8 Euro.
PWM is bad, the A6 one is way better.
OP reflector, slightly smaller pits than the A6.
Utorch on the left in the beam photograph
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I got a new Nitecore TIP SE to replace an older (2015) TIP
The original one still works fine but one rubber button was torn, so I put a rubber tyre patch on top of it. Still, since it is no longer weatherproof I decided to get a new one to replace it.
Issues with the old one? The torn button and the very poor resistance to friction of the anodisation. It used to be blue but the colour has gone. In comparison, an old, used LM squirt, carried on the same key-chain for even longer still looks pretty good. I have included a photograph with a Tank light, carried for way more years, for comparison.
Basically, the SE has twice as many LEDs and of a different brandthan the old one, twice as many Lumens on Turbo and a USB C charging port instead of the USB Micro. The low, medium, high modes are about the same. So is the size and overall functions.
If you do not need the higher Turbo mofde then there is no reason to upgrade.
The original one cost me 18 USD and the new one 29, shipped to me.
The new one has a slightly wider beam, though they are both fine.
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I think a problem with the coating may be that it's a flatter profile light, so more of the surface is exposed to friction at any given time. The tank light example you gave along with it is entirely bare of ano at the points of contact, whereas the TIP still has a bit of a 'hue' to it. Looking forward to seeing how it holds up overall, it's an interesting light that's for sure!
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The LM squirt was on the same keychain and that also has flat sides. It has minimal damage to its coating.
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The LM squirt was on the same keychain and that also has flat sides. It has minimal damage to its coating.
That probably says something about the Leatherman ano rather than the Nitecore's...
I've never known ano to hold up to prolonged keychain use (over years) without substantial loss (usually 100%) at the points of contact.
It'd be a better metric if you could gauge how quickly it lost the ano, rather than the end state after years of key carry.
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The anodized finish on the TIP always struck me as being very thin as well. Good light though and I still like my CRI. As you say; I'm not certain I'm going to rush out and replace it with the new version just yet. Cheers for the pics and thoughts mate. :cheers:
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Jetbeam Mini One SE
This is another small keychain light, available with a metal or plastic opaque body and metal head (SS). It is also available from Nitecore, with lower power output - Nitecore Tiki. (Nitecore and Jetbeam are related, from what I know, part of Sysmax)
Having an internal battery and an on/off button helps it to be quite small, comparable to an AA battery.
Specifications can be found here : http://www.jetbeamlight.com/products_show318.html
The turbo output is 500LM (30s) and it has regular modes from 200 to 1LM (could have been lower). Nice white beam.
I have included some comparison photographs with the Tank007E09. The beam comparisons are done with both on High, Tank at 120 and Mini at 200LM. The Mini has a hotter central spot and more spread.
The light brings many functions of cheaper. fun, lights to a product made by a real company.
It has, in addition to the standard beam, 4 extra lights on its side.
3 are powerful (150LM) coloured LEDs (R, G, B) that can flash in sequence. This function is useful when walking (the reason I got this light) or for parties....
You can also have just the red LED flashing, like a beacon, just the red or blue on etc.
1 is a UV light, reasonably bright that can be used for various tasks, like checking the cleanliness of toilets, checking money and so on.
You access the main modes by number of clicks and then change through the variants with longer clicks. Easy and simple.
Why did I get the plastic bodied one instead of the metal bodied one?
The plastic one luminesces in the dark (like watch dials). The metal one does not.
When you use the coloured LEDs in the plastic one, you get light form all around the body of the light, making you more visible. With the metal one, if you accidentally cover the LEDs with your finger or body then you will not get any light coming out.
The plastic one is cheaper - about 18USD should get you one to Europe, whereas the metal one is a few USDs more, usually
However, the metal one looks fancier/classier and should be tougher.
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You miss me here? ;)
Some interesting lights, I like that BLF one with the 4 parallel cell setup, but I'd prefer it to be a flood light for photographing large dark spaces.
And the last keychain light is cute. It wouldn't push out my old trusty ITP A3 SS off of my keychain but it would be a nice toy to play with ;)
Also nice to see you still loving the Tank, I'm guessing it's your favourite keychain light still, right?
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You and Gareth keep this thread alive.
The tanks never die, I just replace them occasionally with something fancier on keychains.
I still have the original 3 or 4 that I bought and they work as new. That one has been continuously on the keychain for several years.
There are a few new BLF lights available too, but I am generally happy with what I currently have - though I did go to BLF a few days ago and ended up ordering another light.....
The only light that needed replacing in the past few years was the nitecore tip.
The runtime, beam quality and brightness you can get from the newer lights is impressive, especially compared to what you were getting about 10 years ago
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I have one of those Tanks in the collection but rarely carry it, still works great though and I understand why you like it so much.
I know the BLF specials can be very nice, I have a BLF Mini CR123 and the Starry Light SA-22 BLF Edition I think you also have, with the 4xAA setup and they are great bang for the buck. But I don't go to BLF anymore that often so am not familiar with what the newest offering is.
I found my sweet spot both in multitools, SAKs and flashlights some time ago and am not searching for the newest best thing anymore as I used to. But it's nice to read your views on them, you know I enjoy these posts a lot.
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I go to BLF once a year... usually end up buying something.
The starry light works well too, apart from some discolouration/deposits in the lens, which can not be easily removed to be cleaned.
I though it had some problems a few weeks ago, but it just needed a new set of batteries as the old ones, eneloops were not charging properly.
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You and Gareth keep this thread alive.
Glad to be of service. :D
The new Jetbeam looks like update of the Tiki for sure. Different charging port, LEDs and different UI. I like the idea of it being glow in the dark too. I've had my Tiki on my keys nearly every day of the last 10 months and honestly I can't see a single blemish on the plastic.
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The actual high on the TIKI is higher, 300LM instead of 200, though the Turbo on the Mini is 500.
The Tiki also has a bigger battery, and noticeably better, on paper, runtimes.
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I was thinking that the turbo was rated at more than 200 when I bought mine. :)
Looking at the two I suspect that I'd still buy the Tiki over the One SE. However that's a matter of preference and each to their own. The Rovyvon range is worth a look too but, again, the specific features of the Tiki seemed to suit me best.
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Turbo on MINI 500LM (as long as you keep the button pressed), regular high 200
on the Tiki, no turbo but regular high is 300LM
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After wandering into BLF I ended up ordering a couple more lights. This is one.
Sofirn D35S.
Sofirn seems to be fashionable these days and gets decent reviews (This happens with many companies that appear for a while, make good products and sometimes just disappear - hopefully they will stay)
This was just over 15 USD delivered to me in 2 weeks from China. I ordered from their website, which seems to have the best prices.
Came in a branded box with an A4 English manual.
No branding on the light, which seems to be sold under other names too.
Specifications:
Emitter: SST40
Material: Aircraft-grade 6063 Aluminium Alloy
Nominal voltage: 3.7V
Power Source: 1x 18650 rechargeable battery
Dimension: 86mm (length) × 25mm (head diameter)
Weight: 2.9 ounces (Excluding battery)
Five Light Modes:
Low: 70LM; Medium 1: 120LM; Medium 2: 300LM; High: 600LM; Turbo: 1200LM
Also, Strobe and Beacon. Simple interface with one button.
I ordered the version with the battery, branded Sofirn, though I do not know who makes it. The version with the battery was cheaper than the one without, at the time.
Comes with a simple but effective headband.
The light can be adjusted for angle whilst on your head.
Feels reasonably light. I used it for half an hour working on a car and it felt fine.
It comes with USB charging. The charger contained in the light charged the battery to around 4.10V, using a 0.5V USB suply. I was able to add another 200mAh using an external charger. The charging point is nicely hidden by a cap, which you unscrew to use it – see photographs.
If you do not care about the extra mAh the included charger is fine as it slightly undercharges, which does not do the battery any damage.
The battery can be removed easily for charging, though the screw cap for the battery feels really thin, reminding me of screw caps on cigar tubes. I assume this was done to save weight, but it does not feel very strong.
For some reason they went with two LEDs, though they could have used one as the total output is not that high.
So, the LEDs should be pretty unstressed and last long.
The beam is wide, as the orange peel reflectors are quite small. Slightly green, but not noticeable in actual use.
In the photographs you see a comparison with a BLF nide that produces about the same maximum brightness.
They could have saved more weight by having one LED and no USB charging, I assume.
Anodisation is good.
The Low is not that low at 70Lm – this is what bright incandescent lights used to make remember….
Appears very “industrial”. No effort was made to make it look nice.
Good light for well under 20USD, from a maker with good reputation. Good shipping too – these days it takes longer to get something from within Europe than from China.
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This looked cool and interesting until I saw the reflectors. Why two orange peel ones? :think: Seems like a waisted opportunity to make it a much more versatile light. One orange peel for flood and one smooth for throw. But that would probably require an additional switch and be a tad more expensive.
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They do sell some with varying reflectors/LEDs on the same light.
It works well, but it is floody.
The cost of the battery alone is near the total cost of the light, so I can not complain.
I think you should be able to polish one of the reflectors if you want, though the LEDs will still be on together
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Sofirn DF60
I got a new diving light which arrived a few days ago.
This is the second one they sent me as the first one, ordered in April, is still stuck in Netherlands customs for some reason, possibly lost.
From the website:
Product Specifications:
Weight: 230g/ 8.1oz (excluding battery)
Length: 57.1in/145cm
Diameter.: 20.9in/53cm(head), 12.2in/31cm(tube)
Material: aluminum alloy
Power: 2*26650 rechargeable battery
LED model: CREE XP-L2 LED
Waterproof rating: IPX-8, underwater 150m
https://www.sofirnlight.com/products/sofirn-df60-powerful-6000-lumen-flashlight6-cree-xpl2-leds-diving-torch-underwater-powered-by-26650-or-18650
By arriving late it means that I did not have it for the dives I wanted to use it for (small caves) but I will use it properly soon.
Nice floody beam, rotating power selection bezel, double o-rings.
I got the package model that came with batteries and an OKish charger.
Feels solid and the rotating ring rotates easily.
The brightness levels are preselected, no ramping, and the low is not very low. 350Lm
It has no cooling fins and gets really hot quickly, out of the water.
Definitely designed for use in water where it will be nicely cooled, on highest power
The selection bezel moves easily, so it will be possible to turn it on accidentally.
I compared the beam with the Q8 BLF that uses 4 18650s
The D60 is brighter but not hugely.
I included a size comparison photograph with the Q8 and the TR-3T6 (with 2 18650s), as well as a battery comparison photograph with AA, C, 18650 batteries.
The batteries are OK, though they seem to come out of the light at different voltages, so they are not brilliantly matched - they are running in series so you would expect them to have the same voltage after use.
The included batteries rattle in the light. No effect on the light.
The light can be used with 18650s, for less running time and it came with two adaptors for that.
I assume it will not leak....
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A very cheap head lamp available from various shops. About $3
Two light sources for wide and narrow beam, ramping, about 300Lm claimed.
Magnetic end, USB charging with included 18650 battery (that can be replaced with some work with a branded one).
For the money you get a lot.
Plastic light, body, with the charging point being hidden under the control button flap.
Had it for over a month and it seems robust enough.
Comparison photograph with a more expensive headlamp included
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Sofirn SP33 V3.0
a reasonably small/short light with good brightness. Around $30
Specifications from here: https://sofirnlight.myshoplaza.com/products/sofirn-sp33-v30-3500-lumens-rechargeable-flashlight-cree-xhp502-led-torch-powered-by-26650-battery-or-18650-not-included
※ Sofirn SP33 V3 uses CREE XHP50B 3V LED with a lifespan of 50,000 hours
※ Working Voltage: 3V-4.2V
※ Battery Options: One 26650 Li-ion battery
※ Dimension: 126.6mm (length)× 37.5mm (head diameter)
※ Weight: 144±1 gram (without batteries)
※ Flashlight body: Aerospace grade 6061 grade aluminum alloy hard-anodized anti-abrasive finish to get solid built body
※ Toughened mineral glass lens
※ The waterproof level: IPX8
※ Protect from improper battery installation
※ Mode Memory : Last mode remembered (except Turbo and Strobe)
※ Advanced Temperature Regulation (ATR) technology: the brightness level will adjust automatically when the temperature goes up or down, there are 3 lines: 45℃, 55℃, 65℃, the higher the temperature is, the more the brightness will drop to prevent overheating. When the temperature is low enough, the brightness goes up again automatically.
※ Power Indicator: Each time the light is turned on, the battery level indicator will automatically display the battery status for 5 seconds.
I ordered it with a battery
Works well, reasonably slim and light (could be carried easily in a pocket)
The power button is not easy to feel and I usually pres the USB charging point cover instead, as it feels more like an on/off button
a comparison shot with the similarly sized BLF model is included.
I have used it as bit and it is fine. I may use it as a bike light.
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D25 XML T6 headlamp
This is very similar to the Sofirn D25S, with the main difference being the emitters that are stated as CREE XML T6 (they have a green surround around the LED) as opposed to the SST40 of the Sofirn.
The overall look, operation and finish is very similar, if not identical and they could have both been made by the same factory.
It arrives in a cardboard box with D25 on, as the only branding.
The beam has less tint, compared to the Sofirn, and is less bright, at all settings. I would think it has about 1000Lm.
This is cheaper than the Sofirn, but the Sofirn was a lot cheaper a few months ago. Currently and for all practical purposes it performs similarly, for less money. It is about 14 Euro, without the battery, whereas the Sofirn approaches 20.
The Sofirn is better, and you should get that, if the price for both is close.
Similar charging system that works fine.
I doubt you will notice the difference in output, in short distances where this type of light is used (i.e. working on the car)
No photographs as according to the software they have "Invalid image geometry"
I shrunk them even more, hopefully it will work
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White / Yellow Light USB Rechargeable Headlamp.
This has two LEDs, claimed to be CREE XPG that can only operate one a t a time.
One has a white output and the other a yellow one, enabling you to select which tint you need at the time.
Cost is around 4Euro and it comes with an included internal rechargeable battery.
Both beams are throwy, so it is not very useful for working on things nearby. (see comparison photograph with the Sofirn D25S, the D25S is on the right, white beam is used for the light under review)
Built quality is OK, the light is bright enough (possibly a few hundred Lumen) with a long throw.
Last long enough, cheap, fun tint selection.
I wish both LEDs could work together. (I am sure it can be modified to do so)
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Just catching up on this thread mate. I am now resisting the urge to got look at headlights I don't need. :D
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Just get some cheap ones, for the quick thrill.
There is an amazing variety for under 30 Euro
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Sofirn SC18
Small 18650 light, with charging.
Sofirn quality in their finish was always good but they have improved more, based on the last couple of lights I bought from them. $14.99, though they are currently on 15% off offer, after I bought them..... :(
Simple operation and surprisingly small, especially taking into account that it incorporates a charger.
BLF A6 XPL 1600LM BLF A6 XPL 1600LM
Pocket rocket.
Definitely not the brightest 18650 though.
Compared with a BLF A6 XPL 1600LM 18650, that does not have a build-in charger. The sofirn has a brighter center, but the BLF has a more wide beam, using an OP reflector. The sofirn also has better heat dissipation/less heat production, that is, it does not get super hot quickly, like the BLF.
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Sofirn SP10V3.0
Small, 14500 or AA operation. No charging, but it comes with a cheap charger.
Very nice feel and easy operation, easy pocket carry.
Compared with the BLF model mentioned in the previous post.
OP reflector, good for use around the house at night. $16.99 at the time.
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Sofirn SP10V3.0
Small, 14500 or AA operation. No charging, but it comes with a cheap charger.
Very nice feel and easy operation, easy pocket carry.
Compared with the BLF model mentioned in the previous post.
OP reflector, good for use around the house at night. $16.99 at the time.
I've been thinking about a AA size torch with a side switch. I'll definitely go have a look. :cheers:
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It comes in pretty colours!
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Sofirn SP10V3.0
Small, 14500 or AA operation. No charging, but it comes with a cheap charger.
Very nice feel and easy operation, easy pocket carry.
Compared with the BLF model mentioned in the previous post.
OP reflector, good for use around the house at night. $16.99 at the time.
How would you rate it compared to the Lumintop Tool AA?
I LOVE mine and am on the fence about getting a backup in case this one I've been using dies or I loose it, but this one looks interesting and is slightly cheaper.
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I do not think I have the lumintop. The sofirn is fine, from what I can tell, though the anodisation is easily scratched by the included clip.
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H05A Headlamp, Osram P8 LEDs
Bought from Sofirn.
2400 Lm.
Very nice light spread, similar to a COB light.
I wish the low was lower. Cheap, solid, bright, good construction, charging. Uses an 18650 battery.
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H02A headlamp SST40 LEDs
Bought from Sofirn.
2400 Lm.
Very cheap
1 Lm low. Cheap, solid, bright, good construction, charging. Uses an 18650 battery
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18650 headlamp comparison.
All look very similar and have similar construction run on 18650 batteries and have charging. The, newer, HO2A and HO5A have a bright red/green light on their on/off button to indicate charging and they also have soft off meaning that they switch off slowly.
The HO2A, first left on the beam photos has a nice wide beam, the HO5A, second on the left has a wide and very even beam and the D25S models are on the far right and have more clear, throw style beams.
The best value is the HO2A, with a very nice low setting, powerful high (for a very short time though), good spread and throw and seriously cheap. Comes in pretty colours too.
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Sofirn LT1s
Decided to get a decent lantern.
Bright, smaller than I realised.
500Lm
Has red light too, as well as one direction light.
21700 battery, with charging.
The low could have been lower.
Stable, very solid feeling.
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Sofirn IF22A.
Thrower with clever optics.
Way smaller than I expected.
Very speSmurfpillsed beam, only thrower, useful for lighting a long path but not very usefull close up (a zooming light does both).
Very good build quality, charging, 21700 battery, power bank function.
Shown with a floody Q8. The IF22A produces a very bright and nicely circular hot spot, with little flood.
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A very nice selection there Deeks. :tu: The lamp and the thrower I might have to go and look at.
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I like using the lights. The thrower one is great fun, provided you know what it is and do not want flood.
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Sofirn? H02A with the Osram P8 LEDs.
I am going through a headlamp upgrade phase, so I got two more.
This one I already had with SST40 LEDs and decided to get the Osram version too.
The Osram version is less bright, though not easily noticeable, and does not seem to have the short time high of the other version.
It does have a very low Low setting, that is only barely usable in very dark places, something some people like, to maintain night vision.
The SST40 version low is more useful to me. Still very low.
There is a photograph with both of them on the lowest setting, and the difference is clear.
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Sofirn HS10, a much lighter single Samsung LED. TIR lens
This is an impressive little light, from the more premium line of Sofirn.
Runs on an 16340 battery, but as it has a lower brightness than the other Sofirn headlamps it runs for a decent amount of time.
I used it for over an hour, on a regular setting and it worked fine, providing good light, without feeling underpowered.
You do lose some light, compared to the 2 LED models but you also lose some weight. The beam is narrower, so not briliant for low light close by work. or reading, but it still a very nice light. Easy to use as a handheld torch too, and magnetic.
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Sofirn HS10, a much lighter single Samsung LED. TIR lens
This is an impressive little light, from the more premium line of Sofirn.
Runs on an 16340 battery, but as it has a lower brightness than the other Sofirn headlamps it runs for a decent amount of time.
I used it for over an hour, on a regular setting and it worked fine, providing good light, without feeling underpowered.
You do lose some light, compared to the 2 LED models but you also lose some weight. The beam is narrower, so not briliant for low light close by work. or reading, but it still a very nice light. Easy to use as a handheld torch too, and magnetic.
I like that look of that one. I'll take light and handy over a few extra lumens. :)
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Sofirn SP33S.
This is an upgrade of my Sofirn SP33V3.
XHP70.2 and 5000Lm.
This one I got on clearance from their site, as it has no thermal regulation, so it could potentially destroy itself and set fires. The price was nice....
The rest is like the regular model.
The LED has a bigger surface area so you get more spread than with the V3.
Some comparison shots, with highest and lowest beam comparisons.
Overall good quality and a decent upgrade, for my bike