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Tool Talk => SOG Tool Forum => Topic started by: Lynn LeFey on April 12, 2018, 06:13:56 PM
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I don't have my hands on one of these yet, but this model seems to have generated a fair amount of interest.
I figured I'd start the dedicated conversation about this tool. Post away about speculation, experience with the tool, etc.
So, here's SOG's marketing video...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Fan5NwQp04
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Looks very intersting indeed, I first heard about it yesterday and liked it instantly. Looks to be very compact but very capable and also much more pocketable than a "fat" Juice (my XE6 never sees pocket time because of its bulk and form factor). I'll be very interested about the reviews, when people will get their hands on the tool and comment on build quality and all the other stuff.
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did they release a price yet?
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About $55 with shipping is the best price I can find, and when i e-mailed the place that has it listed for that, asking if it was actually in stock, the reply was 'backordered, will be here in a few weeks'.
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I found it for $39.95 if you pre order. they say the reg. price is $54
not available anywhere yet as far as I can tell.
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Yeah. I got a Pint pre-ordered. As well as an Access Deluxe. SOG must be having serious QC issues to have not released them yet. A few Access Deluxes have been released, but not many. :facepalm:
I am looking forward to both tools, but have since lost my excitement.
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Promising model. I love the light weight! And I find it very important, that the PowerPint has a bit-driver for replaceable screw-bits. Because especially Phlips screw-drivers can wear off easily, and are not easy to repair on the job, or in the field.
And for loosening tight Philips-screws, you need a screw-bit, that fits very well. Or else the Philips-profile in the screw can wear out, which can be very problematic to solve on the go.
If you carry a set of eight bits in the multitool-pouch, four sizes Philps, and four sizes flat-heads, you have a dedicated screw-capacity. And if you want to carry light-weight on some trip or mission, you can reduce that number of bits to carry.
More preferences: the two knife-blades could be replaced by one combo-blade (that is serrated near the pivot), plus a built-in wood-saw, for survival and disaster situations, large accidents, etc.
The bottle- and can-opener can be combined in one item.
I definitely miss a lanyard-hole, to prevent loss of the multi-tool in turbulent circumstances.
I also miss a replaceable wire-cutter with a few spare-parts in the purchase, plus a separate two inch bit-extender, to reach in narrow spaces.
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That's a sweet size niche to be in I think. Very pocketable.
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Wonder why SOG didn’t inlcude the wood saw and just have a combo edge blade... But the Powerpint definitely got my attention...
Just googling Powerpint didn’t help either as I get results for Powerpoint... Hopefully SOG marketing needs to ramp up exposure?
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4.2 oz, and 3" long. It definitely looks nice. I might buy another SOG after all. Who knew. I'll wait for the reviews and hope that the price drops from $55.
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I found it for $39.95 if you pre order. they say the reg. price is $54
not available anywhere yet as far as I can tell.
Okay, I couldn't resist that price, I just preordered one. At that price it came out $62 with shipping to me. I really hope that the tool will be as nice as it looks and not something disappointing.
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That thing is the firs multitool that I want in a long time. But why two knife blades?! I would like a saw instead... :(
Ps: What I would like even more would be a LM mini clone with the SOG leverage mechanism (what is that thing called? :D) with scissors and maybe a diamond file. ::)
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Just googling Powerpint didn’t help either as I get results for Powerpoint... Hopefully SOG marketing needs to ramp up exposure?
You can Google like this: "sog powerpint". IMO the most important factors for success are, that multitool manufacturers learn from forums like this, what needs and wishes different groups of buyers have. Like campers, preppers, bikers, engineers, and police-officers.
And they should have a beta-version tested, by a panel of at least thirty experienced and critical consumers for a year, in the user-groups that are targeted, before they release the new model on the market. For example police-officers, backpackers, etc.
It backfires, if a manufacturer develops a multi-tool with specifications, that are not in demand, or with quality-problems, even with very expensive marketing.
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Goes without saying, production quality should be a top priority...if I google PowerAccess, the first hit will bringout the link to SOG Knives site... And I don’t think this would entail expensive marketing...
Just out of curiosity, what tools would a law enforcer/police officer need? Used for emergency situations?
Am I correct to assume your a police officer? :cheers:
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Where are SOG multitools made/assembled these days?
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Where are SOG multitools made/assembled these days?
I'm not sure in general, but the PowerPint is made in China according to SOG's website - I assume most of their other models too.
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I feel a need to point something out.
This thing weighs pretty much dead even to what a Leatherman Juice S2 weighs.
The Juice is not exactly a 'robust' tool. People need to keep this in mind, and we need to go into this with reasonable expectations. I have some serious concerns about how capable the pliers will be. Although, I seem to recall the Crossgrip is pretty capable, so... maybe it'll be fine.
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I feel a need to point something out.
This thing weighs pretty much dead even to what a Leatherman Juice S2 weighs.
The Juice is not exactly a 'robust' tool. People need to keep this in mind, and we need to go into this with reasonable expectations. I have some serious concerns about how capable the pliers will be. Although, I seem to recall the Crossgrip is pretty capable, so... maybe it'll be fine.
maybe comparable to the Reactor/Skeletool... :think:
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I found it for $39.95 if you pre order. they say the reg. price is $54
not available anywhere yet as far as I can tell.
Okay, I couldn't resist that price, I just preordered one. At that price it came out $62 with shipping to me. I really hope that the tool will be as nice as it looks and not something disappointing.
Looks like I'm smurfed pretty well. The vendor I preordered the PowerPint from (Fishbone Knives, VA), yesterday just refunded my order on PayPal without explanation. ???When I messaged them asking for reasons, their customer service replied with a "we apologize but cannot ship this item due to restrictions". I told them in my reply that I do not know of any restrictions about shipping knives and/or MT's to Hungary and I have received several items of that kind before from the US and asked them to carry on fulilling the order, but got no answer.
So now no PowerPint for me, at least not at the preorder 39 bucks. I'm disappointed and angry. Had they let me know in time that they won't ship here, I could have ordered it from somewhere else, but no, they took the order and tell me this now, three weeks later and only after me asking why they canceled it. :rant: I got my 62 bucks back, but that's not enough for a PowerPint now (with shipping). Grrr. I wanted that tool so bad. :(
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One of my dream tools... Waiting eagerly for your evaluation :popcorn: :popcorn:
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I found it for $39.95 if you pre order. they say the reg. price is $54
not available anywhere yet as far as I can tell.
Okay, I couldn't resist that price, I just preordered one. At that price it came out $62 with shipping to me. I really hope that the tool will be as nice as it looks and not something disappointing.
Looks like I'm smurfed pretty well. The vendor I preordered the PowerPint from (Fishbone Knives, VA), yesterday just refunded my order on PayPal without explanation. ???When I messaged them asking for reasons, their customer service replied with a "we apologize but cannot ship this item due to restrictions". I told them in my reply that I do not know of any restrictions about shipping knives and/or MT's to Hungary and I have received several items of that kind before from the US and asked them to carry on fulilling the order, but got no answer.
So now no PowerPint for me, at least not at the preorder 39 bucks. I'm disappointed and angry. Had they let me know in time that they won't ship here, I could have ordered it from somewhere else, but no, they took the order and tell me this now, three weeks later and only after me asking why they canceled it. :rant: I got my 62 bucks back, but that's not enough for a PowerPint now (with shipping). Grrr. I wanted that tool so bad. :(
That happened to me as well on from a ebay seller. And the listing was up on months ago. They only refund after I sent multiple message to them. Idiot sellers. Why list items that they cannot fulfill.
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Knife Center shipped my Pint out yesterday. Should be here next week. Will post about it as soon as it arrives. :tu:
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Knife Center shipped my Pint out yesterday. Should be here next week. Will post about it as soon as it arrives. :tu:
So that makes it very likely that Fishbone Knives had mine as well, and called the deal off right before shipping. So close, yet they "took it from me". I'm furious. :rant:
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Ah.. The long awaited tool is finally in stock eh..
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Ah.. The long awaited tool is finally in stock eh..
Knife Center sent me the tracking should be in my hands Monday.
:woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo:
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I hope they release some black versions in the future.
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I just checked and to my surprise Knife Center still had the PowerPint on preorder price, so they got my money and Fishbone Knives can smurf it. I am a future PP owner again. And now I'll shut up. :)
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What is the best/cheapest option for purchasing from the UK?
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Ah.. The long awaited tool is finally in stock eh..
Knife Center sent me the tracking should be in my hands Monday.
:woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo:
:like: I did an order as well yesterday night. I find it weird that the official SOG website does not have this in stock yet...
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What is the best/cheapest option for purchasing from the UK?
I don't know about any other vendors, but Knife Center asked $24 and change for shipping to Hungary, I guess it would be the same to the UK as well.
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Ah.. The long awaited tool is finally in stock eh..
Knife Center sent me the tracking should be in my hands Monday.
:woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo:
:like: I did an order as well yesterday night. I find it weird that the official SOG website does not have this in stock yet...
You mean, such a responsible and quality-oriented company, like SOG(in its' current state) would not update their website? :rofl:
I like SOG MTs, but their business practices could use a serious overhauling. :facepalm:
On a different note; I am enjoying the PowerAccess Deluxe. Seems they listened to somebody about the tang notches not being ground properly and the PAD tools lock up with acceptable confidence. At least they do on my example. Can't wait to see the PowerPint tomorrow. :ahhh
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Ah.. The long awaited tool is finally in stock eh..
Knife Center sent me the tracking should be in my hands Monday.
:woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo:
:like: I did an order as well yesterday night. I find it weird that the official SOG website does not have this in stock yet...
You mean, such a responsible and quality-oriented company, like SOG(in its' current state) would not update their website? :rofl:
I like SOG MTs, but their business practices could use a serious overhauling. :facepalm:
On a different note; I am enjoying the PowerAccess Deluxe. Seems they listened to somebody about the tang notches not being ground properly and the PAD tools lock up with acceptable confidence. At least they do on my example. Can't wait to see the PowerPint tomorrow. :ahhh
Can't wait for you to receive it and do a first hands feedback too! :like:
Glad the PAD is working out for you. I lost confidence in the Sog line after they started with the Power Grab and Powerplay...
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Hey Sam Lim,
Pint overview is up. :tu:
https://forum.multitool.org/index.php/topic,77214.0.html
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Hey Sam Lim,
Pint overview is up. :tu:
https://forum.multitool.org/index.php/topic,77214.0.html
oddly enough, in Spanish we say "Te diré como pinta la cosa" "¿Qué tal pinta eso?" or "No pinta nada bien" to say what in English would be "I'll tell you my first impressions" , "How does it look?" or "That doesn't look good at all" respectively
so, let's see cómo pinta the PowerPint in your eyes :D
:popcorn:
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hT2frjLelJo
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hT2frjLelJo
yeah saw that :salute:
it seems this is on par with other new SOG offerings, that is:
- a bit overpriced compared to other offerings
- flimsy in some parts, locks are meh, tools are subpar
- centered around the pliers action,everything else almost an afterthought
though this time, unlike with the PAD, the file seems to be good and working!! :ahhh :D
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hT2frjLelJo
yeah saw that :salute:
it seems this is on par with other new SOG offerings, that is:
- a bit overpriced compared to other offerings
- flimsy in some parts, locks are meh, tools are subpar
- centered around the pliers action,everything else almost an afterthought
though this time, unlike with the PAD, the file seems to be good and working!! :ahhh :D
You should visit the other PowerPint thread to learn that the file is just as awful as on the other new SOG's. :) I don't know why he said that the file was okay, even the filing he did wasn't that effective.
https://forum.multitool.org/index.php/topic,77214.0.html
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hT2frjLelJo
yeah saw that :salute:
it seems this is on par with other new SOG offerings, that is:
- a bit overpriced compared to other offerings
- flimsy in some parts, locks are meh, tools are subpar
- centered around the pliers action,everything else almost an afterthought
though this time, unlike with the PAD, the file seems to be good and working!! :ahhh :D
You should visit the other PowerPint thread to learn that the file is just as awful as on the other new SOG's. :) I don't know why he said that the file was okay, even the filing he did wasn't that effective.
https://forum.multitool.org/index.php/topic,77214.0.html
sees conflicting evidence.
I have watched WeAllJuggleKnives for at least 6 years and his review of at least a dozen different multitools and I know he knows how good or bad files can be ??? It was not excellent (ie ST300 or Spirit) but miles ahead of the PADs...
Not that he is an expert or that his experience invalidates the others' personal stories but he knows what he's talking about. :salute:
or most likely it's a problem from the QC department and inconsistency in the Chinese factories :think:
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hT2frjLelJo
yeah saw that :salute:
it seems this is on par with other new SOG offerings, that is:
- a bit overpriced compared to other offerings
- flimsy in some parts, locks are meh, tools are subpar
- centered around the pliers action,everything else almost an afterthought
though this time, unlike with the PAD, the file seems to be good and working!! :ahhh :D
You should visit the other PowerPint thread to learn that the file is just as awful as on the other new SOG's. :) I don't know why he said that the file was okay, even the filing he did wasn't that effective.
https://forum.multitool.org/index.php/topic,77214.0.html
sees conflicting evidence.
I have watched WeAllJuggleKnives for at least 6 years and his review of at least a dozen different multitools and I know he knows how good or bad files can be ??? It was not excellent (ie ST300 or Spirit) but miles ahead of the PADs...
Not that he is an expert or that his experience invalidates the others' personal stories but he knows what he's talking about. :salute:
or most likely it's a problem from the QC department and inconsistency in the Chinese factories :think:
Well, I'm pretty sure we could call him an expert (I'm a big fan of his work and long-time viewer too), and I guess he handled way more than a dozen MT's, but still the file part was the most surprising thing in this review. And yeah, inconsistency plays a part, but how could they make only one working file?! :D Everyone else seems to agree that it's nothing more than a piece of metal with some lines cut into it. :)
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WAJK is actually not wrong about the PP file. It feels awful on the skin and fingernails, but it somehow works on harder materials.
Here is a set of videos from the PAD challenge thread. The PA file feels about the same by touch to the Pint filw. But, the SOG file results may be surprising. :think:
I made a crappy video (three parts, because I suck at youtube) about the file. If you dare to see what happens with the file, please feel free to watch. :)
Part 1:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ls5kkgQ_RKY
Part 2:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=p_muxRa6jXE
Part 3:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=mYvZ5EsPaA4
WAJK isn't my favorite reviewer of MTs, but he did a good job on the Pint. I don't agree with him half the time(he often does improper comparisons and uses inconsistent testing methods ), but he does do the MT world a huge favor by making the reviews and answering questions (I know he gets paid/donated to, but it is still a pain to do the work he does and most if won't do it).
Hats off to WAJK for the Pint review. :hatsoff:
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I have the PowerPint and agree with the WAJK review. It really has a poor selection of tools and quite a few of them are completely worthless.
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will PowerPint tools swap into a PowerAccess Deluxe? Could make a bladeless by swapping over scissors and a few other parts (including pocket clip) if the tools are swappable.
Charles.
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Not sure, but these tool models are wildly different sized. This would be tantamount to putting Juice tools into a Surge.
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Not sure, but these tool models are wildly different sized. This would be tantamount to putting Juice tools into a Surge.
Granted. Gerber does that tho. Mp400, mp600, centerdrive, Flick, and suspension all have interchangeable tools. I was hoping sog did it too, because scissors are scissors, even if they’re small.
Charles.