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Non Tool Forum => The Break Room => Topic started by: Benner on September 25, 2009, 11:56:35 PM
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As some of you may know, I have been waiting for quite a while to receive a package from Gadget Guy that had a few unknown items in it. Well today I received a letter saying that customs had my parcel and that they had seized one of the items, a Buck Vantage, as it was classified as a gravity knife. What an absolute load of BS! >:( After a phone call to them I asked what happens to my other "legal" items and basically the guy said that if I forfeit the knife they "may" be able to send the stuff on. Since then however I have been told that it is standard proceedure to destroy the lot. Yes, they even destroy perfectly legal items. ::) :twak:
I have written them a letter saying that the knife is not only legal for me to own, but I can also buy it and get it fixed under warranty in the UK but I fear I am wasting my time. Basically I have left it that if I have to I will give up the knife but I need the other stuff back. The knife alone is bad enough, but the other items aren't everyday items and I will be beyond gutted if I lose them as well.
Use this as a warning all those in the UK. Basically, if it looks even semi tactical or if the blade can be opened with inertia alone you will be risking it being lost.
Fingers crossed for me all.
Benner
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That really sucks Ben. Best of luck getting your stuff.
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Speak to Nick. He managed to beat the system recently - maybe he can give you some tips.
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Mate that sucks :(
Hope you get it all sorted out and get the other stuff back :)
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Speak to Nick. He managed to beat the system recently - maybe he can give you some tips.
My thoughts exactly. I hope you can get it sorted. :-\
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The anger this causes me is hard to contain. If something's not legal - then fine - confiscate it and take action against the people trying to buy them. That's absolutely fine.
But there is absolutely no basis for this at all.
Let's face it, this is going to happen to us all sooner or later.
What about writing to your MP?
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Damn, Benner... :-\
My fingers crossed.. :)
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The anger this causes me is hard to contain. If something's not legal - then fine - confiscate it and take action against the people trying to buy them. That's absolutely fine.
But there is absolutely no basis for this at all.
Let's face it, this is going to happen to us all sooner or later.
What about writing to your MP?
The problem is I have a month to get back to them otherwise the case is closed and I lose the lot.
TBH I have basically given up on the knife (even though I went into great detail in the letter about it being perfectly legal to buy here etc etc) I am just focussing on the other stuff as they are really hard to replace. I just don't want to lose those which sucks as it goes against everything I believe in, but I have little choice.
Yes, this could happen to any of us and I hope this serves as a warning and will reduce many more of us getting screwed over.
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That does suck because they can basically do what they want.
Best of luck in getting your stuff from them. :salute:
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I would contact a lawyer. If the knife is legal, I am sure a bit of legal weight would get the job done.
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Destroyed, riiiight... Looks like the custom guy likes your stuff more than you do. ::)
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I would contact a lawyer. If the knife is legal, I am sure a bit of legal weight would get the job done.
I am not in the financial situation to do so. For a £40ish knife it really is not worth the risk of challenging it sadly. A bit of "weight" may work, but there would only be one way to find out.
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Yes, this could happen to any of us and I hope this serves as a warning and will reduce many more of us getting screwed over.
Thing is it won't, as they appear to be not following any rules but their own :(
I mean how do you avoid it, when you're doing everything right anyway?
Sh*t - I hope you get your stuff mate, for all of us!
I would contact a lawyer. If the knife is legal, I am sure a bit of legal weight would get the job done.
It might work, but it would cost. My guess would be that it might do the trick and get the stuff released, but then Ben would be left with a bill to pay. Taking customs to court to recover the costs, doesn't sound like something you'd do lightly, and I'd say it woudl pretty much guarantee future problems with packages. I f***ing hate HM Customs. They have far too much power (more than the police or the armed forces) and are acting like bullies.
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Looks like you guys are getting royally screwed more and more.
http://www.britishblades.com/forums/showthread.php?t=89012&highlight=poster
Nothing against UK but I seriously hope all the crap that's happening there doesn't spread.
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Yes, this could happen to any of us and I hope this serves as a warning and will reduce many more of us getting screwed over.
Thing is it won't, as they appear to be not following any rules but their own :(
I mean how do you avoid it, when you're doing everything right anyway?
Sh*t - I hope you get your stuff mate, for all of us!
I would contact a lawyer. If the knife is legal, I am sure a bit of legal weight would get the job done.
It might work, but it would cost. My guess would be that it might do the trick and get the stuff released, but then Ben would be left with a bill to pay. Taking customs to court to recover the costs, doesn't sound like something you'd do lightly, and I'd say it woudl pretty much guarantee future problems with packages. I f***ing hate HM Customs. They have far too much power (more than the police or the armed forces) and are acting like bullies.
I totally know what you are saying. My "warning" is just to try and buy locally for such items if you can and not risk the search. I don't agree with that, far from it, but paying the extra cost may be worth the reduced risk of completely losing it.
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Looks like you guys are getting royally screwed more and more.
http://www.britishblades.com/forums/showthread.php?t=89012&highlight=poster
Nothing against UK but I seriously hope all the crap that's happening there doesn't spread.
I hope it doesn't either. And yes, it happens a lot.
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I feel your pain , I had a Strider GB seized by Canada Customs as a "gravity knife " . We have similar nonsence to what you guys in the UK are going thru , hope you get your kit back . Fingers crossed .
Chris
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Don't think I'll be living in the UK anytime soon. :D
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Don't think I'll be living in the UK anytime soon. :D
Too bloody right - we wouldn't let you in!
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Is the gravity issue because of the flick at 1.07..? :think:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZyW7cRXNMkg
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Christ I hope not. That's exactly like the Leatherman flipper on the knives I'm awaiting from GG :(
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No. Think of holding the knife when closed then flicking your wrist so the blade comes out on it's own. That's what they are basing it on.
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Christ I hope not. That's exactly like the Leatherman flipper on the knives I'm awaiting from GG :(
Nope, nowt wrong with a flipper. This I believe is because of inertia. 90% of Spydies and other tactical folders can be opened like that though. ::)
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No. Think of holding the knife when closed then flicking your wrist so the blade comes out on it's own. That's what they are basing it on.
Is that what they said to you? Is it possible that the blade was loose? I think it was Neil who was explaining that he had the blade on a Zilla tool tightened up real tight so that it couldn't be deemed a gravity knife.
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No. Think of holding the knife when closed then flicking your wrist so the blade comes out on it's own. That's what they are basing it on.
Is that what they said to you? Is it possible that the blade was loose? I think it was Neil who was explaining that he had the blade on a Zilla tool tightened up real tight so that it couldn't be deemed a gravity knife.
That isn't what they have said, but that is what a "gravity knife" is and it's what all of the other cases have been. A loose pivot is probably the case and some do get the sender to tighten them up, but I'm pretty sure eventually they will see past that as well.
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The reason I ask is that we were discussing last week, whether they might be counting knives that can "Spydie Dropped" as gravity knives.
I don't have any knives that can be opened just by flicking your wrist, they all need a bit of help to get the blade going.
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The reason I ask is that we were discussing last week, whether they might be counting knives that can "Spydie Dropped" as gravity knives.
I don't have any knives that can be opened just by flicking your wrist, they all need a bit of help to get the blade going.
I bet you could get your Centofante and your Griptillian to. With enough effort you can do it with a lot of knives.
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I can flick open my larger Spydies by flicking my wrist, but its not safe as the inertia from the flick makes it hard to hold on the the knife.
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Just tried with the Grip - and you have to pull back the lock to do it (in fact, that's exactly what I do when I open it).
Can't do it with the Centofante, although I can get it to open half way by depressing the lock release as I do it,
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Just tried with the Grip - and you have to pull back the lock to do it (in fact, that's exactly what I do when I open it).
Can't do it with the Centofante, although I can get it to open half way by depressing the lock release as I do it,
I can flick my starmate and endura, well its more a swing and flick than a flick.
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Just tried with the Grip - and you have to pull back the lock to do it (in fact, that's exactly what I do when I open it).
Can't do it with the Centofante, although I can get it to open half way by depressing the lock release as I do it,
Really really flick it. :D I have some which seem that they won't go, but when you hit it perfectly they do. I can do it with every tac folder I own here bar 2, those being a Chinook which has a tight pivot and huge lock bar and the other my Ti-lite which I have overtightened to stop play. All the others can quite easily. I even did it with an X-tract and your e306x.
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Just tried with the Grip - and you have to pull back the lock to do it (in fact, that's exactly what I do when I open it).
Can't do it with the Centofante, although I can get it to open half way by depressing the lock release as I do it,
I can flick my starmate and endura, well its more a swing and flick than a flick.
Yeah that describes it a little better.
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Oh, and holding the knife upside down and flicking the blade out downwards may work as well.
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Just tried with the Grip - and you have to pull back the lock to do it (in fact, that's exactly what I do when I open it).
Can't do it with the Centofante, although I can get it to open half way by depressing the lock release as I do it,
Really really flick it. :D I have some which seem that they won't go, but when you hit it perfectly they do. I can do it with every tac folder I own here bar 2, those being a Chinook which has a tight pivot and huge lock bar and the other my Ti-lite which I have overtightened to stop play. All the others can quite easily. I even did it with an X-tract and your e306x.
Nah, that would be illegal :P
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Not helpful! :twak: :D
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Knives are bad m'kay?
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Knives are bad m'kay?
Thought that was drugs? :D
Seems they are. ::)
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I say that we drive up there Ben - what do you reckon?
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I say that we drive up there Ben - what do you reckon?
I'll get the "Bloody bunch of W*NK*RS" banner ready. :salute: :D
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Lol.
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Dissasembly of the knife (if possible) could have it get past the microscopic eye of your Big Brother there in the UK.
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I have this real cheap knife that I bought at one of those traveling tool shows. I believe it is a good example of the gravity issue.
Even took a video after reading about your woes.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QXWVTR7_aWE
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I think that's what Ben was describing yeah.
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Yup, that's it. Some require a lot more force though, but if they open eventually, they can be classified. They even got a UKPK to open like that. ::)
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I can't do it with my rookie as the blade isn't heavy enough, well I can if I hold the knife upsidedown and flick it, kinda like a reverse Spyder drop.
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Dissasembly of the knife (if possible) could have it get past the microscopic eye of your Big Brother there in the UK.
Or just tighten pivot so it can barely be opened. ???
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Dissasembly of the knife (if possible) could have it get past the microscopic eye of your Big Brother there in the UK.
Or just tighten pivot so it can barely be opened. ???
Then you cant say it's "knife parts"..or "broken knife" ;)
A folded knife might not even get opened, they might just look in the box, see a knife and do whatever they do with it. A dirty ziplock full of metal bits might not get as much attention.
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Dissasembly of the knife (if possible) could have it get past the microscopic eye of your Big Brother there in the UK.
Or just tighten pivot so it can barely be opened. ???
Then you cant say it's "knife parts"..or "broken knife" ;)
A folded knife might not even get opened, they might just look in the box, see a knife and do whatever they do with it. A dirty ziplock full of metal bits might not get as much attention.
They were boxed up in the original Buck Knives boxes. I like the pivot idea though. :tu: That's what I do when I send knives to Canada.
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Dissasembly of the knife (if possible) could have it get past the microscopic eye of your Big Brother there in the UK.
Or just tighten pivot so it can barely be opened. ???
Then you cant say it's "knife parts"..or "broken knife" ;)
A folded knife might not even get opened, they might just look in the box, see a knife and do whatever they do with it. A dirty ziplock full of metal bits might not get as much attention.
They were boxed up in the original Buck Knives boxes. I like the pivot idea though. :tu: That's what I do when I send knives to Canada.
Custom guy 1: Man I really want one of those new cool Buck folders but I spent all my money on beer and stripper this month.
Custom guy 2: Hey check out what I found, new in box Buck folder! Isn't this the model you want?
Rest is history...
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Dissasembly of the knife (if possible) could have it get past the microscopic eye of your Big Brother there in the UK.
Or just tighten pivot so it can barely be opened. ???
Then you cant say it's "knife parts"..or "broken knife" ;)
A folded knife might not even get opened, they might just look in the box, see a knife and do whatever they do with it. A dirty ziplock full of metal bits might not get as much attention.
They were boxed up in the original Buck Knives boxes. I like the pivot idea though. :tu: That's what I do when I send knives to Canada.
Custom guy 1: Man I really want one of those new cool Buck folders but I spent all my money on beer and stripper this month.
Custom guy 2: Hey check out what I found, new in box Buck folder! Isn't this the model you want?
Rest is history...
Wondered the same thing myself
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Dissasembly of the knife (if possible) could have it get past the microscopic eye of your Big Brother there in the UK.
Or just tighten pivot so it can barely be opened. ???
Then you cant say it's "knife parts"..or "broken knife" ;)
A folded knife might not even get opened, they might just look in the box, see a knife and do whatever they do with it. A dirty ziplock full of metal bits might not get as much attention.
They were boxed up in the original Buck Knives boxes. I like the pivot idea though. :tu: That's what I do when I send knives to Canada.
Custom guy 1: Man I really want one of those new cool Buck folders but I spent all my money on beer and stripper this month.
Custom guy 2: Hey check out what I found, new in box Buck folder! Isn't this the model you want?
Rest is history...
:twak:
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Sorry to hear that, Ben. Canada Customs are also known for their either application of gravity/centrigugal force tests on anything that looks like tactical folder, so tightening of pivots, where possible, is a must when shipping to Canada. UK seems to be the same way >:(
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Ben that is just a complete load of smurfing smurf , bullsmurf & smurfed up manure. I mean honestly is a gravity knife faster deploying than a flipper & consequently more dangerous :ahhh :ahhh what a loud of wanton smurfed up bullsmurf. As for destroying the whole package because of one item , now that is just plan smurfed up. Is there a civil liberties group or a ombudsmen office that can be your advocate Ben. Or is there legal aid , that is free legal representation you could access (I know a bit of a long shot).
Ben what if you contacted a lawyer & see if you can get a quote/cost of representation. I would throw 10 quid into a fighting fund for you mate & I reckon there might be some other members who would do the same :tu: :tu: :tu:
Bummer for you & John >:( >:(
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I'm sorry, but "destroying the entire package because of one item" reeks a bit too much of U.S. Custom's infamous "Destroying a shipment of Cuban Cohibas one cigar at a time" schtick...
That bleeding sucks. Don't these people have real things to do, like preventing actual contraband/dangerous substances/WMDs from being smuggled into/out of the country? Or is it too much trouble to inspect the big crates labelled "Just Machine Parts-HONEST"? Better/easier to harass someone over a pocketknife, I guess... :bnghd:
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The anger this causes me is hard to contain. If something's not legal - then fine - confiscate it and take action against the people trying to buy them. That's absolutely fine.
But there is absolutely no basis for this at all.
Let's face it, this is going to happen to us all sooner or later.
What about writing to your MP?
That's pretty much the size of it :(
Damn I'm sorry to hear that mate :cry:
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wow Ben that really sucks. I hope you get it sorted out,
don't delay and go get your other stuff buddy!
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Ben have you appealed this mad decision there is a procedure for doing so,
my guess is if it's plain that you can purchase the knife here legally,then it would follow that it's legal to import.
And before anyone suggests it's ok for dealers to import illegals then I'm sorry they are not above the law guys, in fact their shipments get more scrutiny in customs :police:
so What I'm saying is if you can prove you can purchase it here, then you may have a case :salute:
I don't know if this was helpful but! if you appeal you have nothing to lose by doing so :tu:
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Its daft but I have to say I don't think Ben has much of a chance. I'd cut my loses in order to get the other items from them.
Taking them to court would cost. They're not likely to capitulate in the face of such action as its not like going up against an individual or a company, they have tax payers money to cover their legal expenses. There is also no guarantee that the court would find in Ben's favour.
I'd forget about the media being useful. Its a knife... do I really need to say any more in the current climate?
It sucks :(
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Its daft but I have to say I don't think Ben has much of a chance. I'd cut my loses in order to get the other items from them.
Taking them to court would cost. They're not likely to capitulate in the face of such action as its not like going up against an individual or a company, they have tax payers money to cover their legal expenses. There is also no guarantee that the court would find in Ben's favour.
I'd forget about the media being useful. Its a knife... do I really need to say any more in the current climate?
It sucks :(
Well Neil maybe I was talking aloud ;) if it were me I would take it all the way as that knife by definition is not a gravity knife per sa :D
After all I can just go to heinnie's and get this which is very similar http://www.heinnie.com/g8kXxc432774/Knives/Gerber/Gerber-Firestorm/p-92-144-1033/ (http://www.heinnie.com/g8kXxc432774/Knives/Gerber/Gerber-Firestorm/p-92-144-1033/)
But that's just me I don't give up too easily when it comes to a wrong doing :salute:
All I can say customs have gone flipping mad these days but the good news is they don't always get away with it in court >:D
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I'm all for standing behind a principle and running with it.. if you've got the cash upfront to do so :-\
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Here's an example of their madness :D
I got this last year for a fun knife to play with although it had been opened by customs it's in my possession >:D
The thing is I think they looked at it and couldn't decide if it were a bird or a knife :rofl: dim wits :D
(http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u122/titan1833/004-35.jpg)
Anyway I hope you get it back Ben here's hoping they come to their senses sooner rather than later :tu:
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I'm all for standing behind a principle and running with it.. if you've got the cash upfront to do so :-\
No cash upfront needed what I would do is collect as much info as possible before entering court and in the likely outcome being in my favour costs would go to them oh! wait I mean tax payers ;)
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I'm all for standing behind a principle and running with it.. if you've got the cash upfront to do so :-\
No cash upfront needed what I would do is collect as much info as possible before entering court and in the likely outcome being in my favour costs would go to them oh! wait I mean tax payers ;)
Is that the likely outcome though? I'd hope so but I wouldn't want to bet my solvency on the fact. The defence that everyone else is selling them might not win the case. The prosecution standing there with the knife in question and flicking it open might be all the magistrate needs to find in their favour :(
I'm not saying your wrong and I'm certainly not arguing against the principle of what you're saying. I'm just saying that having to explain to my family why we're selling the house is not something I'd personally risk :D
I have heard of cases that have been successfully appealed but they seem to be a minority. Once they've drawn their line they normally stick with it :(
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Benner
Is their a "knife" related organization in the UK that could get behind the issue at hand and request letters from other knife ornersand also storm any hearings that may be held?
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I'm all for standing behind a principle and running with it.. if you've got the cash upfront to do so :-\
No cash upfront needed what I would do is collect as much info as possible before entering court and in the likely outcome being in my favour costs would go to them oh! wait I mean tax payers ;)
That's all very well and good, but the process of appeal starts off with you stating your legal representation which I would do if I was loaded and didn't have a family to think off but I have to be realistic. This is a £40ish knife which is not worth the risk. As much as I hate it, it just isn't.
As far as challenging is concerned, I have explained in my letter about it being available to buy here in the UK and that it can also be fixed under warranty here too, but TBH I know I am wasting my time. I have left it saying that if they still see fit I will forfeit it but that I need that other stuff back. My focus now is not losing more than I have to.
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Benner
Is their a "knife" related organization in the UK that could get behind the issue at hand and request letters from other knife ornersand also storm any hearings that may be held?
TBH, I don't know. But like I said above, to start off the appeal you need the name of your legal representative. They also only give you one month to do all this so the pressure is on there as well.
Basically, they have me by the short and curlies and are holding my other stuff to ransom in a way.
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Ben - FWIW I agree with you. Unless you can find a knife collecting solicitor through one of the knife forums that would take the case on for free, it would be a huge gamble.
I think I would pursue the free options (CAB, your MP etc) though.
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I'n not making a big thing of this but! where does it say you need legal representation?
A quote from HM customs:
2.12 Do I need legal representation in court?
No. You don't have to be legally represented in court but you may want to instruct a solicitor (normally at your own expense) to act on your behalf.
That said I do understand "Ben" that it's a big hassle gathering info and conducting your own defence, and it's that where they have us shafted as most would rather not attend court in the first place and yes! a lawyer is out of most peoples reach anyway >:(
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The letter states that to appeal they need the name of my legal representative sent to them by post within 30 days.
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The letter states that to appeal they need the name of my legal representative sent to them by post within 30 days.
Strange that :think:
My understanding of the Law is: in this country you can defend yourself in criminal or non-criminal(as in this case) proceedings.
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That is true, but you can do yourself a whole lot of damage representing yourself. There's a reason why solicitors get paid all that money.
Ben - have you tried the CAB? They like a good confrontation with the authorities!
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should have had it sent in parts :P
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That is true, but you can do yourself a whole lot of damage representing yourself. There's a reason why solicitors get paid all that money.
Ben - have you tried the CAB? They like a good confrontation with the authorities!
TBH, my main focus has been to get that other stuff back so to be quick I have already sent the letter I have discussed above. I am pretty much just going to see what comes of that and go from there.
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should have had it sent in parts :P
Yeah on the good side we are gathering info on ways to beat their ignorance of what is legal and what aint :D
I would like to get sent a cheap slip joint knife and for fun:sealed in a wooden box with gorilla glue then wound a few times in duct tape placed in another cardboard box then wrapped a few times with parcel tape and finally placed in a bubble mailer,just for some customs fun >:D
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should have had it sent in parts :P
Yeah on the good side we are gathering info on ways to beat their ignorance of what is legal and what aint :D
I would like to get sent a cheap slip joint knife and for fun:sealed in a wooden box with gorilla glue then wound a few times in duct tape placed in another cardboard box then wrapped a few times with parcel tape and finally placed in a bubble mailer,just for some customs fun >:D
I know you were joking, but if my experience does help someone else out it would ease the anger a little. :D I know John would feel the same as well.
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Wow... sounds like customs really shafts you out there. A real knife in the back so to speak.
Good luck with your situation Benner... couldn't you just list yourself as the legal representative? :D
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Wow... sounds like customs really shafts you out there. A real knife in the back so to speak.
Good luck with your situation Benner... couldn't you just list yourself as the legal representative? :D
I could, but as it would then go to court I'd be a bit lost. :D
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Wow... sounds like customs really shafts you out there. A real knife in the back so to speak.
Good luck with your situation Benner... couldn't you just list yourself as the legal representative? :D
I could, but as it would then go to court I'd be a bit lost. :D
I agree this could or would be daunting to say the least,
I'm taking your advice "buy from the UK" very seriously like you said such knives are available "tho we pay a little more coin" here on tap even F.A.S.T draw knives :D
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'scuse me for being a newbie but do UK customs often intercept packages from the US??? How do they know what to check, x-rays??
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'scuse me for being a newbie but do UK customs often intercept packages from the US??? How do they know what to check, x-rays??
The customs form will usually have a description and cost on it. and apparently all knives are being inspected :-\
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'scuse me for being a newbie but do UK customs often intercept packages from the US??? How do they know what to check, x-rays??
It is random, and they mainly go by the description I expect, but I bet the search random others as well.
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They have very sophisticated X-ray equipment now - I remember from my days working for TNT. I think they randomly scan and / or open packages, unless somethings obviously suspect.
To date, I've had well over one hundred packages from overseas and only one has been opened - last week, from Def!
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That's a bit weird actually. Quite a few of my packages have been opened. No problems though, everything just gets sealed up and sent on.
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I am usually paranoid about ordering anything much from overseas because of this. It's cr*p, and the post office steal lord knows what that does get through >:(
Sorry to hear you're getting screwed here Ben :(
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Guess what? The fricking package I sent to DaveK got returned to me today. WTF!!!! >:( I'm going to have to figure out another way to send it. I'm thinking about UPS, but I'm not sure how that will work in the UK? Man this sucks!! ::)
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Guess what? The fricking package I sent to DaveK got returned to me today. WTF!!!! >:( I'm going to have to figure out another way to send it. I'm thinking about UPS, but I'm not sure how that will work in the UK? Man this sucks!! ::)
Here, just send it to me... much easier, right? :D
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Guess what? The fricking package I sent to DaveK got returned to me today. WTF!!!! >:( I'm going to have to figure out another way to send it. I'm thinking about UPS, but I'm not sure how that will work in the UK? Man this sucks!! ::)
Here, just send it to me... much easier, right? :D
How is that easier? You're not even home! ::) :D
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Guess what? The fricking package I sent to DaveK got returned to me today. WTF!!!! >:( I'm going to have to figure out another way to send it. I'm thinking about UPS, but I'm not sure how that will work in the UK? Man this sucks!! ::)
Did it state why?
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They have very sophisticated X-ray equipment now - I remember from my days working for TNT. I think they randomly scan and / or open packages, unless somethings obviously suspect.
To date, I've had well over one hundred packages from overseas and only one has been opened - last week, from Def!
Amusingly enough, my uncle (who used to work for Customs in the UK!) was stopped two weeks ago from traveling home to Scotland from Canada with the most dangerous of Canadian illicit substances- maple syrup!
CALL OUT THE DOGS!
:ahhh
Def
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Guess what? The fricking package I sent to DaveK got returned to me today. WTF!!!! >:( I'm going to have to figure out another way to send it. I'm thinking about UPS, but I'm not sure how that will work in the UK? Man this sucks!! ::)
UPS deliver packages here as do Fedex via their own vans IIRC :think: ,the USPS is usually delivered via Parcelforce or Royalmail my guess is tho the first two would be a lot more expensive :tu:
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Guess what? The fricking package I sent to DaveK got returned to me today. WTF!!!! >:( I'm going to have to figure out another way to send it. I'm thinking about UPS, but I'm not sure how that will work in the UK? Man this sucks!! ::)
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Why was it returned John?
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Did they give an explanation?
That is nuts.
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US to England UPS is right at $25. After I sent Dave a package USPS, I called UPS just to inquire how much it would've been.
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Next time, maybe this guy could smuggle them in....plenty of room.
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Is it customs though? Or the USPS?
No reason why customs would return them - and if they thought there was something illegal in there, surely they'd have seized it - not returned it.
Seems odd.
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Did they give an explanation?
That is nuts.
Nope, none and all and they have no idea why. I have to send it again tracked. I'm so pissed right now I could ^&!*#@^ scream!! :ahhh
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Was that the 4 LM folders John :think: :think:.
Man frustration for everyone concerned >:( >:( >:(.To send something back AND not give a reason is just rude , but better than seizing it, I think :ahhh
We are so lucky in Australia, too not have these problems(AO aside) , there is something to be said for being founded by a bunch of crims :D :D.
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Was that the 4 LM folders John :think: :think:.
Man frustration for everyone concerned >:( >:( >:(.To send something back AND not give a reason is just rude , but better than seizing it, I think :ahhh
We are so lucky in Australia, too not have these problems(AO aside) , there is something to be said for being founded by a bunch of crims :D :D.
The problem is that international tracking is expensive. I sent a tracked package to Canada today and it cost me $19.50. I have to track Dave's package to the UK and I can imagine what that will cost. ::) I think my days of international shipping are over. :( I'm going to check into UPS and FedEx before I totally give up. I don't know what else to do....
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Australia is all good :P :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D
Mat.
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should have had it sent in parts :P
Yeah on the good side we are gathering info on ways to beat their ignorance of what is legal and what aint :D
I would like to get sent a cheap slip joint knife and for fun:sealed in a wooden box with gorilla glue then wound a few times in duct tape placed in another cardboard box then wrapped a few times with parcel tape and finally placed in a bubble mailer,just for some customs fun >:D
John, did Customs open the package with the Soddie Jr. slipjoint that I sent you? Just curious.
I wrote "Gift less than $20" on the customs form, but the Post Office guy told me that wasn't such a good idea.
He gave me a blank form and told me to write "Case Sodbuster Jr." on the form and not to list a dollar amount.
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So, was it UK customs that returned it? Or did it not leave the US?
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So, was it UK customs that returned it? Or did it not leave the US?
Like you touched on Dave, I really doubt that had anything to do with the UK customs as they would have seized it if there were any concerns.
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should have had it sent in parts :P
Yeah on the good side we are gathering info on ways to beat their ignorance of what is legal and what aint :D
I would like to get sent a cheap slip joint knife and for fun:sealed in a wooden box with gorilla glue then wound a few times in duct tape placed in another cardboard box then wrapped a few times with parcel tape and finally placed in a bubble mailer,just for some customs fun >:D
John, did Customs open the package with the Soddie Jr. slipjoint that I sent you? Just curious.
I wrote "Gift less than $20" on the customs form, but the Post Office guy told me that wasn't such a good idea.
He gave me a blank form and told me to write "Case Sodbuster Jr." on the form and not to list a dollar amount.
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Hi Mark no they didn't :D writing low value $20 is usually ok ;) I have had many packages sent this way so far so good but I guess it depends on whether they open it and research the price :ahhh one point to bear in mine it make no difference even if the item is second hand they charge fees as if it were new,the nerve of it >:( :ahhh
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Sodbusters are cheap enough and perfectly legal anyway (not even a grey area) so you would have been fine anyway.
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So, was it UK customs that returned it? Or did it not leave the US?
I found out what happened and it's my fault. ::) I use a label where my address is right over the top of Dave's address. I've never had a problem with that label until now. They sent the package to me thinking I was the one to receive it. Anyway, they gave me full postage credit and all is good. :tu:
Dave, I'm really sorry for the delay my friend. I'll get this package sent out today and I've added a little something for being a good sport. :D
Looks like I'm back to international shipping. :cheers:
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Glad it was a simple fix anyway :tu:
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So, was it UK customs that returned it? Or did it not leave the US?
I found out what happened and it's my fault. ::) I use a label where my address is right over the top of Dave's address. I've never had a problem with that label until now. They sent the package to me thinking I was the one to receive it. Anyway, they gave me full postage credit and all is good. :tu:
Dave, I'm really sorry for the delay my friend. I'll get this package sent out today and I've added a little something for being a good sport. :D
Looks like I'm back to international shipping. :cheers:
Woohoo (http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e10/DaveK-ToolPics/Smilies/eusa_dance.gif)
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I found out what happened and it's my fault. ::) I use a label where my address is right over the top of Dave's address. I've never had a problem with that label until now. They sent the package to me thinking I was the one to receive it. Anyway, they gave me full postage credit and all is good. :tu:
Dave, I'm really sorry for the delay my friend. I'll get this package sent out today and I've added a little something for being a good sport. :D
Looks like I'm back to international shipping. :cheers:
Hehe John that's pretty funny. Happened to me before too, but that was sending stuff to country where location of sender/recipient's address is reversed, so I became the recipient. (usually it's okay, whoever handled it must be a newbie)
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Ok guys, mark the date, this baby is on it's way right now. Let's see how long it takes to clear customs. ::)
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:D It all adds to the sense of expectation and excitement
I can manage till they arrive anyway ;)
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Ok guys, mark the date, this baby is on it's way right now. Let's see how long it takes to clear customs. ::)
I'll bet it will arrive before any of mine do. >:( (Not that I am going to keep on about it or anything :D)
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Ok guys, mark the date, this baby is on it's way right now. Let's see how long it takes to clear customs. ::)
I'll bet it will arrive before any of mine do. >:( (Not that I am going to keep on about it or anything :D)
Really..? :D
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That is good news John & + an extra for Dave(like Christmas Dave :D)
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Wow, I must have really upset someone in the postal service. Got a bloody customs charging form today as well. ::) At least that means that my A2 may be here.
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Wow, I must have really upset someone in the postal service. Got a bloody customs charging form today as well. ::) At least that means that my A2 may be here.
You're a known trouble maker now :P
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Wow, I must have really upset someone in the postal service. Got a bloody customs charging form today as well. ::) At least that means that my A2 may be here.
You're a known trouble maker now :P
Yeah black listed for sure ah well,Ben! there's away out redirect all your packages to me in future ;) :D :D
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Bloody postmen... why I oughtta... :rant:
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Wow, I must have really upset someone in the postal service. Got a bloody customs charging form today as well. ::) At least that means that my A2 may be here.
You are a lucky sod ::)
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Well it was my A2 so TBH I am just happy I got it. Funny thing though, when I collected it, the guy actually apologised for the charge. :D He said that customs are pretty hot ATM and he is seeing loads of charges. I wonder if, with the strike, customs had longer to look through stuff and that's why I have been so unlucky.
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I wonder if, with the strike, customs had longer to look through stuff and that's why I have been so unlucky.
That would seem likely :-\
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Nope I recon they just don't like Ben ;)
Saying that at least you're getting your stuff Ben. I have two international packages that are way behind schedule. I'm used to delays but I've never had anything from overseas no show before. :ahhh
I'm just hoping they're stuck in a depot somewhere in the backlog created by the ongoing industrial action :-\
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Nope I recon they just don't like Ben ;)
Saying that at least you're getting your stuff Ben. I have two international packages that are way behind schedule. I'm used to delays but I've never had anything from overseas no show before. :ahhh
I'm just hoping they're stuck in a depot somewhere in the backlog created by the ongoing industrial action :-\
How long has it been now?
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Nope I recon they just don't like Ben ;)
Saying that at least you're getting your stuff Ben. I have two international packages that are way behind schedule. I'm used to delays but I've never had anything from overseas no show before. :ahhh
I'm just hoping they're stuck in a depot somewhere in the backlog created by the ongoing industrial action :-\
How long has it been now?
Package from dealextreme, paid for 21/07 and a package from Canada sent a few weeks ago (panicking less about this one).
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That sucks.
Still no word on my seized package yet.
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I feel sorry for you guys, that's rough :(
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Nope I recon they just don't like Ben ;)
Saying that at least you're getting your stuff Ben. I have two international packages that are way behind schedule. I'm used to delays but I've never had anything from overseas no show before. :ahhh
I'm just hoping they're stuck in a depot somewhere in the backlog created by the ongoing industrial action :-\
How long has it been now?
Package from dealextreme, paid for 21/07 and a package from Canada sent a few weeks ago (panicking less about this one).
Nothing from dealextreme :( But...
Package from Canada has just arrived :mail: 38 days it took ::)
Customs hadn't checked it so I guess we need to :twak: either Canada Post or Royal Mail. I think they can have one each just to make sure :twak: :twak:
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Just goes to show that there really isn't any logic to the postal system delivery and time wise. Most things get there eventually.
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Nope I recon they just don't like Ben ;)
Saying that at least you're getting your stuff Ben. I have two international packages that are way behind schedule. I'm used to delays but I've never had anything from overseas no show before. :ahhh
I'm just hoping they're stuck in a depot somewhere in the backlog created by the ongoing industrial action :-\
How long has it been now?
Package from dealextreme, paid for 21/07 and a package from Canada sent a few weeks ago (panicking less about this one).
Nothing from dealextreme :( But...
Package from Canada has just arrived :mail: 38 days it took ::)
Customs hadn't checked it so I guess we need to :twak: either Canada Post or Royal Mail. I think they can have one each just to make sure :twak: :twak:
I shipped a package from CA to PA here in the US and it took 23 days. Something is going on and I don't like it! >:(
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Yeah the postal system is smurfed up. I can get a package from NY in three days. THREE DAYS! Including transit AND custom, and it'll be in my mailbox, every time.
Package from other parts of u.s. can take 4 weeks. It doesn't take 25 days for the package to go from where it's send to NY does it.
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Ben any updates? :think:
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Nope, nothing.
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I just received a letter which was sent Sept 8th.... bloody pathetic >:(
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I shipped a wave and a gerber individually to DaveK and both got there in under 4 days i think...priority mail too. Houston Texas to UK
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How would something like the Kershaw A100 be with UK customs? It's an OHT (assisted opening?) multitool. :/
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I just received a letter which was sent Sept 8th.... bloody pathetic >:(
What was it a knife? multitool? withheld by customs? :think: :tu:
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How would something like the Kershaw A100 be with UK customs? It's an OHT (assisted opening?) multitool. :/
No AO on the Kershaw, just a OH blade. As long as the blade can't be opened with inertia alone, it will be fine.
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How would something like the Kershaw A100 be with UK customs? It's an OHT (assisted opening?) multitool. :/
As long as the blade can't be opened with inertia alone, it will be fine.
beware! they will unscrew the pivot pin and apply super glide lube :police:
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Just a quick update...
After hearing nothing now for nearly 2 weeks, I gave them a quick ring to double check that they got my letter and to see if there had been any progress with my package. The guy on the phone was actually very helpful and explained that it had been taken because it "could be opened with centrifugal force" (we already knew that) and that because of that it was classified as a gravity knife. After a bit of a chat it was clear that to challenge that decision it was going to be a court jobbie so I moved onto the rest of the items. The guy said that he actually had it there all packaged up with my name on ready to be despatched and should be with me "soon". So at least it sounds like I won't be losing the lot.
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It's good to hear you're getting the rest of your stuff but I'm pi$$ed off at their interpretation of the Law. :-\
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It's good to hear you're getting the rest of your stuff but I'm pi$$ed off at their interpretation of the Law. :-\
As am I. :( At least I can replace the Buck though (from this sodding country even!). The rest of the stuff would have been very hard to nigh on impossible for me to get.
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Thats hard luck Ben, I hope you get the rest soon without any more hassle.
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Small comfort I know, but at least your getting the other stuff through :)
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Ben, that is great news! :tu: I hope it gets there soon to put a smile back on your face. :D
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Received another letter today which basically had a very specific run down of why my package was seized and why they deemed it fit to forfeit that particular knife. It seems that it was not only seized because of the "gravity knife" issue, but also because "under section 16 of the Postal Packets Regs 1986 because it was not accurately declared by the sender". So be careful with the wording on these customs forms all. Would have made no difference in my case though.
It says that they did look into what I said about it being available in the UK (which surprised me actually) and the response was "Any knife that has a blade that can be released from the handle in this way should not be on sale legally in the UK". If that were the case you could say that anyone who sells any Cold Steel, Spyderco's and hundreds of other brands are all breaking the law then. ::)
At the end it states that my other items (including a knife may I add) will be with me soon.
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It is good you are getting the rest of your stuff mate. :tu: :tu:.
I wonder when they will be seizing all those 'illegal' knives on shop shelves ::) ::).
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It is good you are getting the rest of your stuff mate. :tu: :tu:.
I wonder when they will be seizing all those 'illegal' knives on shop shelves ::) ::).
I think the whole postal system has gone mad! >:( I got six letters back becasue of the same label problem that I had with Dave. I've been using the same label for three years without a single problem. ::) Why all of these problems in the last few months? :ahhh :ahhh :ahhh
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Well I still reckon we were unlucky as they had more time to look because of the weeks strike. Your problem is an oddity though. :D
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Wonder what France laws are on sharpies? Get a PO box over there and hop on the Eurostar back home. Since California has some wacky laws people get stuff sent to Arizona and go there to pick up their goodies.
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Wonder what France laws are on sharpies? Get a PO box over there and hop on the Eurostar back home. Since California has some wacky laws people get stuff sent to Arizona and go there to pick up their goodies.
Certainly the length of EDC blade is longer. My understanding is that it's based around the fact a judge found it ridiculous that he might be banning the carry of laguioles. "But zen, 'ow could anyone go for a picnic"? Something like that anyway. :D
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Wonder what France laws are on sharpies? Get a PO box over there and hop on the Eurostar back home. Since California has some wacky laws people get stuff sent to Arizona and go there to pick up their goodies.
Certainly the length of EDC blade is longer. My understanding is that it's based around the fact a judge found it ridiculous that he might be banning the carry of laguioles. "But zen, 'ow could anyone go for a picnic"? Something like that anyway. :D
Nice accent, was he called René by any chance :D
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Wonder what France laws are on sharpies? Get a PO box over there and hop on the Eurostar back home. Since California has some wacky laws people get stuff sent to Arizona and go there to pick up their goodies.
Certainly the length of EDC blade is longer. My understanding is that it's based around the fact a judge found it ridiculous that he might be banning the carry of laguioles. "But zen, 'ow could anyone go for a picnic"? Something like that anyway. :D
Nice accent, was he called René by any chance :D
Officer Crabtree apparently. :D
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Officer_Crabtree
"Good moaning" ;) :D
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Ze gateau in ze chateau
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Ze gateau in ze chateau
:D
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Ze gateau in ze chateau
:D
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QF_cB9AfNKA
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So Ben I see the numbskull's are sticking to their guns :o this could have disastrous consequences for businesses and us alike :ahhh
I just hope my gerber firestorm is not as loose as the vantages pivot :think:
maybe I should pay the sender to send in two packages handle in one blade in the other as knife parts :think:
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Or just get them to really tighten the pivot. I'm pretty sure they aren't allowed to tamper with anything, thus creating something they claim to be "illegal".
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Or just get them to really tighten the pivot. I'm pretty sure they aren't allowed to tamper with anything, thus creating something they claim to be "illegal".
Yep I think that's the best plan :D thinking about it if they were allowed to tamper then they could even make some slipits illegal :salute:
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In the end, I think it may all depend on how badly the duty officer may want your prized possession for him/herself.
Come to think of it, there are so many sticky finger discount artists that work for the Postal Offices the world over, it is amazing any packages make it through he gauntlet in the first place.
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In the end, I think it may all depend on how badly the duty officer may want your prized possession for him/herself.
Come to think of it, there are so many sticky finger discount artists that work for the Postal Offices the world over, it is amazing any packages make it through he gauntlet in the first place.
I'd be pretty certain that with the level of bureaucracy involved the chances of anybody swiping any contraband is next to nill.
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In the end, I think it may all depend on how badly the duty officer may want your prized possession for him/herself.
Come to think of it, there are so many sticky finger discount artists that work for the Postal Offices the world over, it is amazing any packages make it through he gauntlet in the first place.
I'd be pretty certain that with the level of bureaucracy involved the chances of anybody swiping any contraband is next to nill.
I totally agree. I believe these guys are enforcing that law as they see it, I just happen to utterly disagree with their interpretation. If these guys flag something as illegal then there is no way it's simply going to disappear from the system, it'll be tagged and followed right up to the point it's destroyed.
One thing Britain can do is make mountains of inescapable red tape. :)
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Here was I trying not to make us look like a nation of Vogons :P
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Has anyone been arrested for importing such knives it seems it's an arrestable offence :ahhh be careful guys :think:
Offence: It is an offence to import any knife as described in s.1(1) and sometimes known as a ‘flick knife’ or ‘flick gun’ and ‘gravity knife’
Powers: Arrestable offence.
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Has anyone been arrested for importing such knives it seems it's an arrestable offence :ahhh be careful guys :think:
Offence: It is an offence to import any knife as described in s.1(1) and sometimes known as a ‘flick knife’ or ‘flick gun’ and ‘gravity knife’
Powers: Arrestable offence.
If that happened then there at least would be a court ruling on the legality of these knives, rather than a Customs official's opinion. :-\
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Has anyone been arrested for importing such knives it seems it's an arrestable offence :ahhh be careful guys :think:
Offence: It is an offence to import any knife as described in s.1(1) and sometimes known as a ‘flick knife’ or ‘flick gun’ and ‘gravity knife’
Powers: Arrestable offence.
If that happened then there at least would be a court ruling on the legality of these knives, rather than a Customs official's opinion. :-\
Maybe that's why they don't arrest anyone then :D
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Or just get them to really tighten the pivot. I'm pretty sure they aren't allowed to tamper with anything, thus creating something they claim to be "illegal".
Yep I think that's the best plan :D thinking about it if they were allowed to tamper then they could even make some slipits illegal :salute:
Not being picky here, but a slipit would not be illegal as the blade has to lock open.
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In the end, I think it may all depend on how badly the duty officer may want your prized possession for him/herself.
Come to think of it, there are so many sticky finger discount artists that work for the Postal Offices the world over, it is amazing any packages make it through he gauntlet in the first place.
I'd be pretty certain that with the level of bureaucracy involved the chances of anybody swiping any contraband is next to nill.
I totally agree. I believe these guys are enforcing that law as they see it, I just happen to utterly disagree with their interpretation. If these guys flag something as illegal then there is no way it's simply going to disappear from the system, it'll be tagged and followed right up to the point it's destroyed.
One thing Britain can do is make mountains of inescapable red tape. :)
+1, especially on apparently such a dangerous weapon. ::)
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In the end, I think it may all depend on how badly the duty officer may want your prized possession for him/herself.
Come to think of it, there are so many sticky finger discount artists that work for the Postal Offices the world over, it is amazing any packages make it through he gauntlet in the first place.
I'd be pretty certain that with the level of bureaucracy involved the chances of anybody swiping any contraband is next to nill.
If these guys flag something as illegal then there is no way it's simply going to disappear from the system.
you lucky.
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If these guys flag something as illegal then there is no way it's simply going to disappear from the system.
you lucky.
Sounds like "La Cosa Nostra" is handling your mail, Sarduker.. :P :D
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UK customs are a law onto themselves >:( But, other countries can be harsh as well, i've had trouble with Australian customs.
I always list knives on customs forms as "tools".
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Probably 90% of my parcels are opened by Australian customs if they are listed as knives :ahhh. If listed as tools or cutlery they tend to arouse less suspicion & get too me unmolested. That said I have never had anything confiscated. Playstation games bought from overseas always get opened :think: :think:
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Let's stop beating around the bush and point out that the real reason isn't the legality of the knife in question, or the interpretation of the Customs officials. The reality is, and I hate to say it, but Ben is simply in a high risk criminal group, and is being profiled. After all, he has all the traits of your typical gang banger- steady job as a social worker, two kids with a third on the way, all with the same woman that he is legally married to.... I mean these kinds of things send up all kinds of red flags, and if you think profiling doesn't happen... well, think again. I mean how would you feel if you found out that someone like that was living in your neighborhood?
No offense meant Ben, but someone had to say it.
Def
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Let's stop beating around the bush and point out that the real reason isn't the legality of the knife in question, or the interpretation of the Customs officials. The reality is, and I hate to say it, but Ben is simply in a high risk criminal group, and is being profiled. After all, he has all the traits of your typical gang banger- steady job as a social worker, two kids with a third on the way, all with the same woman that he is legally married to.... I mean these kinds of things send up all kinds of red flags, and if you think profiling doesn't happen... well, think again. I mean how would you feel if you found out that someone like that was living in your neighborhood?
No offense meant Ben, but someone had to say it.
Def
Gotta watch those working, slightly less than middle aged, family types...
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I'm amazed he's free to walk the streets :ahhh
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There's certainly room for concern there :-\ :D
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Let's stop beating around the bush and point out that the real reason isn't the legality of the knife in question, or the interpretation of the Customs officials. The reality is, and I hate to say it, but Ben is simply in a high risk criminal group, and is being profiled. After all, he has all the traits of your typical gang banger- steady job as a social worker, two kids with a third on the way, all with the same woman that he is legally married to.... I mean these kinds of things send up all kinds of red flags, and if you think profiling doesn't happen... well, think again. I mean how would you feel if you found out that someone like that was living in your neighborhood?
No offense meant Ben, but someone had to say it.
Def
Right on the spot, Def... ;)
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If these guys flag something as illegal then there is no way it's simply going to disappear from the system.
you lucky.
Sounds like "La Cosa Nostra" is handling your mail, Sarduker.. :P :D
sadly, kind of.
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Let's stop beating around the bush and point out that the real reason isn't the legality of the knife in question, or the interpretation of the Customs officials. The reality is, and I hate to say it, but Ben is simply in a high risk criminal group, and is being profiled. After all, he has all the traits of your typical gang banger- steady job as a social worker, two kids with a third on the way, all with the same woman that he is legally married to.... I mean these kinds of things send up all kinds of red flags, and if you think profiling doesn't happen... well, think again. I mean how would you feel if you found out that someone like that was living in your neighborhood?
No offense meant Ben, but someone had to say it.
Def
You forgot to mention the large hair do...
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Let's stop beating around the bush and point out that the real reason isn't the legality of the knife in question, or the interpretation of the Customs officials. The reality is, and I hate to say it, but Ben is simply in a high risk criminal group, and is being profiled. After all, he has all the traits of your typical gang banger- steady job as a social worker, two kids with a third on the way, all with the same woman that he is legally married to.... I mean these kinds of things send up all kinds of red flags, and if you think profiling doesn't happen... well, think again. I mean how would you feel if you found out that someone like that was living in your neighborhood?
No offense meant Ben, but someone had to say it.
Def
You forgot to mention the large hair do...
That's a public service though, catches litter, scares pigeons and attracts lightning away from anything important :P
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Let's stop beating around the bush and point out that the real reason isn't the legality of the knife in question, or the interpretation of the Customs officials. The reality is, and I hate to say it, but Ben is simply in a high risk criminal group, and is being profiled. After all, he has all the traits of your typical gang banger- steady job as a social worker, two kids with a third on the way, all with the same woman that he is legally married to.... I mean these kinds of things send up all kinds of red flags, and if you think profiling doesn't happen... well, think again. I mean how would you feel if you found out that someone like that was living in your neighborhood?
No offense meant Ben, but someone had to say it.
Def
You forgot to mention the large hair do...
That's a public service though, catches litter, scares pigeons and attracts lightning away from anything important :P
But that's exactly why they're hounding him. Those pigeons may one day vote, so they have to do every short-sighted thing they can to win the pigeon vote. Everyone knows a scared pigeon votes conservative.
No... I'm not bitter at all...
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Well, after all that aggro, I FINALLY received my package from John today and inside are some very special pieces. :tu: The Vantage has obviously gone, but I am going to have great fun with what is left.
John, thank you very much my friend. :cheers:
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Glad they (mostly) made it Ben :tu:
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Let's stop beating around the bush and point out that the real reason isn't the legality of the knife in question, or the interpretation of the Customs officials. The reality is, and I hate to say it, but Ben is simply in a high risk criminal group, and is being profiled. After all, he has all the traits of your typical gang banger- steady job as a social worker, two kids with a third on the way, all with the same woman that he is legally married to.... I mean these kinds of things send up all kinds of red flags, and if you think profiling doesn't happen... well, think again. I mean how would you feel if you found out that someone like that was living in your neighborhood?
No offense meant Ben, but someone had to say it.
Def
Ya I knew it right off when he posted a pic of himself on the forum! You can tell just by looking at him. :D
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That's great news mate :tu:
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Well, after all that aggro, I FINALLY received my package from John today and inside are some very special pieces. :tu: The Vantage has obviously gone, but I am going to have great fun with what is left.
John, thank you very much my friend. :cheers:
Ben, that is fantastic news mate! I'm sorry it took so long, but it was out of my hands. :D How do you like the Gasbaby?
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Having huge car issues ATM (repairs are going to cost £1100 :o) so am frantically trying to sort out cash and what the hell I am doing in life.
Thoughts up soon :tu:
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Well agreed to the work (BTW that's mates rates as well :o Stupid Suzuki bloody parts >:() just need to find the money now. :(
Well, after all that aggro, I FINALLY received my package from John today and inside are some very special pieces. :tu: The Vantage has obviously gone, but I am going to have great fun with what is left.
John, thank you very much my friend. :cheers:
Ben, that is fantastic news mate! I'm sorry it took so long, but it was out of my hands. :D How do you like the Gasbaby?
Absolutely friggin love it. :tu: All the flat Gasbaby goodness in a more solid feeling and more comfortable to use package. Really chuffed with it buddy. :)
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Glad to hear your stuff got through mate. Pity about the Vantage mind.
Sorry to hear about the car. I've just dropped mine in for a service as well. Needs 4 new tires and they're $200 each, and a bunch of other stuff :-\. If I had somewhere to do it here I'd do half of it myself, but a hospital carpark is hardly the right place to tear apart the car :)
Hope you get it sorted mate :tu:
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Glad to hear your stuff got through mate. Pity about the Vantage mind.
Sorry to hear about the car. I've just dropped mine in for a service as well. Needs 4 new tires and they're $200 each, and a bunch of other stuff :-\. If I had somewhere to do it here I'd do half of it myself, but a hospital carpark is hardly the right place to tear apart the car :)
Hope you get it sorted mate :tu:
Might be ideal if you hurt yourself while servicing the car :D
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Glad to hear your stuff got through mate. Pity about the Vantage mind.
Sorry to hear about the car. I've just dropped mine in for a service as well. Needs 4 new tires and they're $200 each, and a bunch of other stuff :-\. If I had somewhere to do it here I'd do half of it myself, but a hospital carpark is hardly the right place to tear apart the car :)
Hope you get it sorted mate :tu:
Might be ideal if you hurt yourself while servicing the car :D
:D Maybe I could use it to get out of doing my night shifts this week >:D
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Glad to hear your stuff got through mate. Pity about the Vantage mind.
Sorry to hear about the car. I've just dropped mine in for a service as well. Needs 4 new tires and they're $200 each, and a bunch of other stuff :-\. If I had somewhere to do it here I'd do half of it myself, but a hospital carpark is hardly the right place to tear apart the car :)
Hope you get it sorted mate :tu:
Might be ideal if you hurt yourself while servicing the car :D
:D Maybe I could use it to get out of doing my night shifts this week >:D
Go for it :D
Although if you do drop it on you, don't expect Pasanius to come and lift it off you :D
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Glad to hear your stuff got through mate. Pity about the Vantage mind.
Sorry to hear about the car. I've just dropped mine in for a service as well. Needs 4 new tires and they're $200 each, and a bunch of other stuff :-\. If I had somewhere to do it here I'd do half of it myself, but a hospital carpark is hardly the right place to tear apart the car :)
Hope you get it sorted mate :tu:
Might be ideal if you hurt yourself while servicing the car :D
:D Maybe I could use it to get out of doing my night shifts this week >:D
Go for it :D
Although if you do drop it on you, don't expect Pasanius to come and lift it off you :D
Damn, better reconsider then. Those darned Ultramarines are getting lazy!
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Glad to hear your stuff got through mate. Pity about the Vantage mind.
Sorry to hear about the car. I've just dropped mine in for a service as well. Needs 4 new tires and they're $200 each, and a bunch of other stuff :-\. If I had somewhere to do it here I'd do half of it myself, but a hospital carpark is hardly the right place to tear apart the car :)
Hope you get it sorted mate :tu:
Might be ideal if you hurt yourself while servicing the car :D
:D Maybe I could use it to get out of doing my night shifts this week >:D
Go for it :D
Although if you do drop it on you, don't expect Pasanius to come and lift it off you :D
Damn, better reconsider then. Those darned Ultramarines are getting lazy!
Blame it on all the sodding Death Oaths ::) :D
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all right Ben! finally :cheers:
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Glad you got some of your stuff Ben!about time,tho it should have included the vantage :tu:
but just to be clear on what customs define now as flick/gravity knife I made a vid/demo if you think the vid is in some way OTT please let me know and I'll remove it :tu: Demo slowed down a bit so you can see the centrifugal action :D
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DSMy-98oMhw
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I just got a 65€ bill from customs for a two-months old 180€, 300g shipment from Swiss.
Do I need to say more?
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I just got a 65€ bill from customs for a two-months old 180€, 300g shipment from Swiss.
Do I need to say more?
That sucks mate
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I just got a 65€ bill from customs for a two-months old 180€, 300g shipment from Swiss.
Do I need to say more?
That sucks mate
Sure does.. :P
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Wow that really blows mate. :(
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And, as usual, there's no way to argue. I can talk only with FedEx, not with customs.
VAT in Italy is 20%, not nearly 40 as in my case, and there's no way to even ask why.
who mentioned Cosa Nostra?
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That is harsh :-\
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Thieving bar stewards >:(
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I just got a 65€ bill from customs for a two-months old 180€, 300g shipment from Swiss.
Do I need to say more?
:o
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I though you guys are safe on orders within EU?
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Switzerland isn't in the EU.
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I found this guide very useful,you may find it useful in the future :tu:
A guide for international post users
http://customs.hmrc.gov.uk/channelsPortalWebApp/channelsPortalWebApp.portal?_nfpb=true&_pageLabel=pageTravel_ShowContent&id=HMCE_CL_000014&propertyType=document#P36_3279 (http://customs.hmrc.gov.uk/channelsPortalWebApp/channelsPortalWebApp.portal?_nfpb=true&_pageLabel=pageTravel_ShowContent&id=HMCE_CL_000014&propertyType=document#P36_3279)
Mainly for UK users :salute:
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Switzerland isn't in the EU.
Oh. Well time to invade switzerland and make it part of EU. :D
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Switzerland isn't in the EU.
Oh. Well time to invade switzerland and make it part of EU. :D
:tu:
It shouldn't be hard we have them surrounded already :D
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Switzerland isn't in the EU.
Oh. Well time to invade switzerland and make it part of EU. :D
:tu:
It shouldn't be hard we have them surrounded already :D
<groan> :D
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I have a customs charge here for 14.85. I'll collect it in the morning and name and shame the guilty party :D
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I have a customs charge here for 14.85. I'll collect it in the morning and name and shame the guilty party :D
Just so people can see why we get so pi$$ed off, out of that £14.85 charge, £8 of it is for the bloody privilage of being told you have a charge in the first place. ::)
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I have a customs charge here for 14.85. I'll collect it in the morning and name and shame the guilty party :D
It's got to be me for sure! Sorry buddy! :-[
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They must have it in for you ATM John. :D
Funnily enough, I never got charged for my lot which were way over the charge limit. :D I suppose I paid in sharps though. ::)
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Yup. So 6.85 is 15% of whatever value they've decided something is worth, so that would be 45GBP, which in turn is about $70.
Who wrote $70 on the customs form, eh? eh? :twak:
I have a customs charge here for 14.85. I'll collect it in the morning and name and shame the guilty party :D
It's got to be me for sure! Sorry buddy! :-[
Maybe not! I have a few things coming from state-side.
And if it cost me 15 quid for any of them - I'm still doing OK - so don't feel bad ;)
Actually, I hope it is your stuff GG - since Ben's knife got nabbed I've been worrying :ahhh
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They must have it in for you ATM John. :D
Funnily enough, I never got charged for my lot which were way over the charge limit. :D I suppose I paid in sharps though. ::)
You mean I paid in sharps! :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
UK Customs: :surrender: :surrender: :surrender:
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They must have it in for you ATM John. :D
Funnily enough, I never got charged for my lot which were way over the charge limit. :D I suppose I paid in sharps though. ::)
You mean I paid in sharps! :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
UK Customs: :surrender: :surrender: :surrender:
You paid all round :D, but ultimately I am the one that missed out. :D
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I have a customs charge here for 14.85. I'll collect it in the morning and name and shame the guilty party :D
Just so people can see why we get so pi$$ed off, out of that £14.85 charge, £8 of it is for the bloody privilage of being told you have a charge in the first place. ::)
Yeah and IIRC parcelfarce charge £13 sqid to deliver the dam thing :ahhh
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I have a customs charge here for 14.85. I'll collect it in the morning and name and shame the guilty party :D
It's got to be me for sure! Sorry buddy! :-[
It was :D
Customs had indeed had a poke around (and hadn't repackaged particularly well tbh), but it's all there and £15 is more than reasonable for the 154CM goodness contained within - I'm totally happy ;)
Cheers John :tu:
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I have a customs charge here for 14.85. I'll collect it in the morning and name and shame the guilty party :D
It's got to be me for sure! Sorry buddy! :-[
It was :D
£15 is more than reasonable for the 154CM goodness contained within - I'm totally happy ;)
Dave I take it as your happy with the charge you must have used my CC ::) :D
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No - it had expired ;)
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No - it had expired ;)
:oops:
sorry mate :D
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Glad you got your stuff Dave. :tu: Just goes to show that although we have to be careful with what we import, we don't have to go OTT and worry about anything even relatively sharp.