Post by: Captain Hook on August 11, 2020, 04:40:08 AM
I wonder if anyone else sets up their EDC this way, if so I want to see your SAK and Plier combos!
Post by: SirVicaLot on August 11, 2020, 04:56:49 AM
Post by: Frailer on August 11, 2020, 05:00:38 AM
When they arrive in a few days I’ll post a photo:
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Post by: Captain Hook on August 11, 2020, 05:18:41 AM
I carry the Spirit most of the time and I am very happy with it. However, i am always looking for new solutions and combinations, so this has me interested. What is the weight of those pliers?116 grams (4.0 OZ.) I carry them in this pancake style pouch I got that rides high on the belt, my shirt tucks over them and I don't even notice them most of the time just walking around.
Post by: BClogic on August 11, 2020, 11:12:58 PM
This is not a real combo as I forgot my Soldier (I feel naked) and I don’t need to carry the mother of all side cutters daily. It is used daily though! (and these bad dog knipex are it)
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Post by: powernoodle on August 11, 2020, 11:55:32 PM
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Post by: TazzieRob on August 12, 2020, 01:24:24 AM
Along with my SAK (typically a Compact) I normally carry a set of Knipex 125mm cobra pliers, but this weekend I learned they’ve released an even smaller 100mm set, aptly called “XS” pliers.
When they arrive in a few days I’ll post a photo:
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I'm interested in those little Cobras. Haven't seen any reviews yet
Post by: Frailer on August 12, 2020, 01:42:20 AM
I'm interested in those little Cobras. Haven't seen any reviews yet
I haven’t either, but when I saw them in someone’s “EDC” photo last weekend I ordered them immediately. Based on my universally positive experiences with Knipex’s products in the past, I suspect they will be of excellent quality. What remains to be seen is how big a job they’ll be capable of handling.
Post by: SirVicaLot on August 12, 2020, 04:25:45 AM
116 grams (4.0 OZ.) I carry them in this pancake style pouch I got that rides high on the belt, my shirt tucks over them and I don't even notice them most of the time just walking around.
Very interesting. I wish they would make the handles on these collapsable, that would be neat :gimme:
Post by: Captain Hook on August 12, 2020, 04:57:59 AM
Very interesting. I wish they would make the handles on these collapsable, that would be neat :gimme:I actually like having the dedicated pliers, having more structural integrity I have more confidence in them when bending/turning things. They're very compact at around 5" these little Knipex have quickly become one of my Everyday carry items.
Post by: SirVicaLot on August 12, 2020, 05:20:29 AM
I actually like having the dedicated pliers, having more structural integrity I have more confidence in them when bending/turning things. They're very compact at around 5" these little Knipex have quickly become one of my Everyday carry items.
You are right of course :hatsoff: I was just day-dreaming :D
Post by: Captain Hook on August 12, 2020, 05:29:05 AM
You are right of course :hatsoff: I was just day-dreaming :DThat would be sick if Knipex got into making multitools! :gimme: a man can dream :dd:
Post by: Jazz on August 12, 2020, 12:08:45 PM
Post by: powernoodle on August 12, 2020, 02:01:16 PM
I'd like to know how and where you all carry these.
I wear 5.11 Tac-lite Pro pants or shorts almost every day, and they have a small, vertical pocket that is just right for a 5" Knipex. But it also rides just fine in the bottom of a front pocket on most pants. You can handle 3 oz or 85 grams. Do I use them often? No. But I like having them there just in case. My most recent use was to tighten up a nut on a lawnmower wheel. Its nice to take care of something like that when the need arises. I slightly prefer the Pliers Wrench over the Cobra, as the former has smooth jaws that don't chew up the nut or bolt.
Frailer, I ordered a pair of the XS Cobras too. It does not appear to have that adjustment button, but we must all make sacrifices during these trying times.
https://www.511tactical.com/taclite-pro-pants.html?utm_medium=cpc&utm_source=google&utm_term=5.11+tactical+taclite+pants&utm_content=pants_taclite_exact&utm_campaign=new_5.11+brand_apparel_exact_5.11+pants&gclid=CjwKCAjwps75BRAcEiwAEiACMYUYdVHjUt6OC6AbTpD8CJGx4-zQ5W9b7aeYa6izT9Hpr7WTvaCK8RoC_LgQAvD_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds
Post by: BClogic on August 12, 2020, 04:25:40 PM
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Post by: nate j on August 13, 2020, 03:45:37 AM
I ordered a pair of the XS Cobras too. It does not appear to have that adjustment button, but we must all make sacrifices during these trying times.
They have a slightly different adjustment mechanism than the rest of the Cobra range, but looks functional...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=isWzI_Uf4QI&feature=youtu.be
Post by: Frailer on August 13, 2020, 03:52:35 AM
They have a slightly different adjustment mechanism than the rest of the Cobra range, but looks functional...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=isWzI_Uf4QI&feature=youtu.be
Excellent! Thanks for sharing that video link! :salute:
Post by: kamakiri on August 13, 2020, 11:14:26 PM
I’m not an EDC pliers guy...except for the Vic SAK ones.
But I love the Knipex products. And their Pliers Wrench line is awesome. I was already hooked by their Cobra line. Incredible leverage from even the 5” 125mm pliers.
.
Post by: Frailer on August 13, 2020, 11:22:58 PM
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Post by: BClogic on August 14, 2020, 04:04:23 AM
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Post by: BClogic on August 14, 2020, 04:15:52 AM
These arrived today. Once again, Knipex does not disappoint.Well isn’t that just the cutest gosh darn pliers! I like them!
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Post by: TazzieRob on August 14, 2020, 05:00:15 AM
I carry a 4" shifting spanner (crescent wrench / adjustable wrench/spanner) at work, and these look vastly more capable and versatile
Post by: SirVicaLot on August 14, 2020, 05:10:22 AM
Where did you order them if i may ask? None of my usual sources seems to have them yet :think:
Post by: Frailer on August 14, 2020, 05:12:15 AM
He is a great source for Knipex and other quality tools.
Post by: TazzieRob on August 14, 2020, 05:53:49 AM
Post by: pomsbz on August 14, 2020, 10:33:51 AM
(http://www.timelessjewishart.com/EDC_zx/plier_1.jpg)
Post by: SirVicaLot on August 14, 2020, 04:27:46 PM
I ordered mine from ChadsToolBox.com
He is a great source for Knipex and other quality tools.
Thanks for the info! The reviews for that site are not very good though. How is your experience?
Post by: Frailer on August 14, 2020, 05:39:34 PM
If memory serves this is only the second time I’ve purchased from them, but I had no issues. I ordered the XS pliers and a set of 8” Knipex diagonal cutters late Sunday night. My order shipped on Monday from Alaska and arrived in Kentucky on Thursday. No issues at all.
I just realized I should have been more clear when I described this as a “great source.” By that I meant you can find things there that are difficult to locate elsewhere. While my experiences have been positive, I did not mean to imply endorsement of the proprietors or their business practices.
Post by: nate j on August 14, 2020, 11:04:01 PM
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Post by: SirVicaLot on August 18, 2020, 05:03:01 AM
I just checked though, and they fit perfectly into my EDC pouch. So might as well carry them along with the Ranger. Will take some photos tomorrow.
Post by: TazzieRob on August 18, 2020, 07:04:54 AM
I had ordered the 5inch Knipex pliers the other day and they arrived today. I was surprised how small and light weight they are. The plan was not to have these for my carry, but rather for the tool box. There are always hard to reach spots somewhere, and these are perfect for those areas.
I just checked though, and they fit perfectly into my EDC pouch. So might as well carry them along with the Ranger. Will take some photos tomorrow.
:popcorn:
Post by: TazzieRob on August 18, 2020, 07:16:07 AM
Has anyone considered either a 4LN or 4WR Vise Grip (Petersen, not Irwin)? Either of those or even the larger (but not large) 6LN. Knipex makes a model similar to the 6LN. Has anyone ever tried the Knipex model? I'd like to, but as I already have two of the 6LN Vise Grips, it would be redundant (not that "redundant" has ever stopped any of us!)
I have Irwin 5WR Vise Grips. The wire cutters aren't very good, there's too much gap between the anvil and blade. Plus they are a bit weighty for limited functionality. They seem fine for pliers and the locking function, though.
I don't have any experience with Petersen or the other tools you mentioned
Post by: SirVicaLot on August 18, 2020, 07:36:28 PM
Here is the new set. In this picture it does not look like the pliers fit in the pouch, but it works pretty well :tu:
Post by: 39hotrod on August 18, 2020, 07:59:56 PM
Post by: TazzieRob on November 15, 2020, 09:31:48 AM
A workmate asked if I got them from a cereal box :facepalm:
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pw/ACtC-3dBkyuPB6DA6LGwrQAVFVbMJ8-RQTzmHCSU3Lx9d83dRchTX5_5S2w9PaTfTrYw6pxw8ct3EeDgmwi2_dF4pJmIqRvg35Z2qUAv8bSYHgev78mGrj9EbgGs9s5W6w0UsR9SeRfGMYyFEjxUJfOaQLpgPQ=w1080-h1227-no?authuser=0)
Post by: Max Stone on November 15, 2020, 10:09:15 AM
And I thought that my Knipex 125 was small. :facepalm:
Post by: McStitchy on November 15, 2020, 10:14:39 AM
I have joined the Cobra XS club. :tu:
A workmate asked if I got them from a cereal box :facepalm:
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pw/ACtC-3dBkyuPB6DA6LGwrQAVFVbMJ8-RQTzmHCSU3Lx9d83dRchTX5_5S2w9PaTfTrYw6pxw8ct3EeDgmwi2_dF4pJmIqRvg35Z2qUAv8bSYHgev78mGrj9EbgGs9s5W6w0UsR9SeRfGMYyFEjxUJfOaQLpgPQ=w1080-h1227-no?authuser=0)
:rofl:
... they look great Rob :tu:
Do you mind posting a comparison pic of it fully open compared to Wave, Crunch, Spirit pliers or similar?
Post by: gregozedobe on November 15, 2020, 10:32:18 AM
I have joined the Cobra XS club. :tu:
A workmate asked if I got them from a cereal box :facepalm:
I bought one to see what they are like. It's a good quality tool, but tiny. Way too small for my (largish) hands, so promptly gifted to the missus (she thinks it is OK for her more delicate hands).
Post by: ReamerPunch on November 15, 2020, 10:49:10 AM
If only Victorinox brought back the Practical Toolset!
https://forum.multitool.org/index.php?topic=32382.0
Pic stolen from Chako :cheers:
(http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r207/Chako_photo/Album%202/SAM_1413small.jpg)
Post by: comis on November 15, 2020, 11:28:06 AM
(http://www.justbenphotography.com/img/s/v-10/p3958929703-4.jpg)SVL, that' a really functional set with pouch right there!
Here is the new set. In this picture it does not look like the pliers fit in the pouch, but it works pretty well :tu:
History repeats itself. We went from pliers and SAK, to multi-tool, to pliers and SAK. :like:I don't remember see this one, but great re-cap. Fascinating thread, isn't it?
If only Victorinox brought back the Practical Toolset!
https://forum.multitool.org/index.php?topic=32382.0
Pic stolen from Chako :cheers:
(http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r207/Chako_photo/Album%202/SAM_1413small.jpg)
Post by: TazzieRob on November 15, 2020, 12:12:14 PM
:rofl:
... they look great Rob :tu:
Do you mind posting a comparison pic of it fully open compared to Wave, Crunch, Spirit pliers or similar?
I only have a Spirit to compare. The Cobras are open to their specified max opening, 28mm for pipe. The Spirit is open all the way, not really usable that far open
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pw/ACtC-3edhTeT4rruh3pITPmd1D5IlKsD3SdN4EeAMjxipZLW87Y7ZgLhFVucqsIyei-iVX2MXMa5IvzOyx3aNnNxFAOLh9H1lsumn9mv78Tpr397OsioIu1hTEIsAU8cJuQ6vRyFG64gSoyZR6ddccPSRILVBQ=w1044-h1851-no?authuser=0)
Post by: TazzieRob on November 15, 2020, 12:15:34 PM
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pw/ACtC-3c30cynFncvLymvXdMEi3RvTg80wqz8P7WY8sq9b32OHZd-thg9ZUl4lgSvo7PcA3GI7INGcxN8uCny3bZNhDjkpzJCXnTcZ34-cqGQlgCmPeIaszyy9lyiNbH3pCc9cJnCFXgYxA8LcfyZ44D1grvVVw=w1080-h1284-no?authuser=0)
Post by: McStitchy on November 15, 2020, 02:09:51 PM
That's exactly what I wanted to see :cheers:
...or maybe not...'because I want one now :D
Post by: nate j on November 16, 2020, 05:17:23 AM
Post by: Rizio Il Ghiro on November 16, 2020, 09:58:45 AM
Didn’t know Knipex made 100 versions now!
Post by: MacGyver on November 16, 2020, 11:27:05 AM
:D
Post by: TazzieRob on November 16, 2020, 10:49:51 PM
Thanks a million Rob !
That's exactly what I wanted to see :cheers:
...or maybe not...'because I want one now :D
Even paired up with a multitool with pliers, these would be handy. Very often you have to hold a nut and need two spanners. If you want them you'll find a way to convince and justify to yourself... :D
Post by: gregozedobe on November 16, 2020, 11:07:57 PM
....If you want them you'll find a way to convince and justify to yourself... :D
It's amazing what a serious application of "man-maths" can achieve .... :rofl:
Post by: McStitchy on November 17, 2020, 12:26:30 AM
Post by: TazzieRob on November 17, 2020, 12:57:26 AM
It's amazing what a serious application of "man-maths" can achieve .... :rofl:
Yep, I wanted some, but not at $80 I initially saw them for. Sometimes it's just down to how much you're willing to pay :tu:
Post by: TazzieRob on November 17, 2020, 12:57:47 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/N1yxAjR.gif)
:rofl:
Post by: Rizio Il Ghiro on November 17, 2020, 09:47:29 AM
Post by: McStitchy on November 17, 2020, 10:40:50 AM
Post by: Rizio Il Ghiro on November 17, 2020, 11:00:13 AM
Post by: Brock O Lee on November 17, 2020, 12:25:01 PM
I'm interested in those little Cobras. Haven't seen any reviews yet
An old video, but still an impressive demo of the grip strength of the Cobra 125mm, from 5:45:
https://youtu.be/n4laN6BkyjY
I carry one of them in my EDC bag, with a 111mm Outrider. The Rebar rides along, it has a handy needle nose, it can cut wire and has more drivers, a serrated blade and a file.
(https://i.postimg.cc/g0x1xmD3/C5-F5-C718-96-F3-491-D-A5-E0-2-A5-C9235-A231.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/sBRT8Fb2)
(https://i.postimg.cc/VkG3sdjY/6-F228-FE7-E85-D-4115-AEFC-1-B16668-A342-A.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/PCD62f3c)
Here are a few old size comparison pics with a Rebar and Spyderco Native 5.
(https://i.postimg.cc/0j4dSjTn/dsc-0411.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/QKpTG8xK)
(https://i.postimg.cc/28v2WF5B/dsc-0414.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/0bkYRSD8)
Post by: McStitchy on November 17, 2020, 06:30:13 PM
Bloomin’ enablers, eh, McStitchy!,?? :rofl:
Damn right you are :D
Post by: McStitchy on November 17, 2020, 06:32:04 PM
An old video, but still an impressive demo of the grip strength of the Cobra 125mm, from 5:45:
https://youtu.be/n4laN6BkyjY
I carry one of them in my EDC bag, with a 111mm Outrider. The Rebar rides along, it has a handy needle nose, it can cut wire and has more drivers, a serrated blade and a file.
(https://i.postimg.cc/g0x1xmD3/C5-F5-C718-96-F3-491-D-A5-E0-2-A5-C9235-A231.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/sBRT8Fb2)
(https://i.postimg.cc/VkG3sdjY/6-F228-FE7-E85-D-4115-AEFC-1-B16668-A342-A.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/PCD62f3c)
Here are a few old size comparison pics with a Rebar and Spyderco Native 5.
(https://i.postimg.cc/0j4dSjTn/dsc-0411.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/QKpTG8xK)
(https://i.postimg.cc/28v2WF5B/dsc-0414.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/0bkYRSD8)
Great review :tu:
Post by: FolderBeholder on November 17, 2020, 07:14:54 PM
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Post by: McStitchy on November 17, 2020, 07:22:27 PM
Either one of these modded SAKs with a Knipex works for me.
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50614290471_8743f096db.jpg)
:sa: ... :tu:
Post by: VICMAN on November 17, 2020, 07:39:17 PM
Great review :tu:
Cool video! :like: :tu: :tu:
Post by: VICMAN on November 17, 2020, 07:41:09 PM
Either one of these modded SAKs with a Knipex works for me.
Nice combos FB! :like: :tu: :tu:
Post by: McStitchy on November 23, 2020, 04:26:17 PM
I didn't know that you can actually push the pliers closed without having to open them before. Well done Knipex !
(https://i.imgur.com/G7kxOg1.gif)
Post by: Kraken on November 23, 2020, 04:37:57 PM
Thanks to you enablers here I've just received this little chap :ahhh
I didn't know that you can actually push the pliers closed without having to open them before. Well done Knipex !
(https://i.imgur.com/G7kxOg1.gif)
:like:
I knew I shouldn't have clicked on this thread...now I'm feeling the itch to get a pair of those mini Knipex!
Post by: Barry Rowland on November 23, 2020, 05:05:59 PM
Post by: Aloha on November 23, 2020, 06:03:53 PM
:like:
I knew I shouldn't have clicked on this thread...now I'm feeling the itch to get a pair of those mini Knipex!
I knew better yet still here I am :drool:
Post by: McStitchy on November 23, 2020, 06:13:26 PM
Post by: gregozedobe on November 24, 2020, 01:22:26 AM
I knew better yet still here I am :drool:
:rofl: :pok: :mail: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
Post by: TazzieRob on November 24, 2020, 11:55:15 AM
Thanks to you enablers here I've just received this little chap :ahhh
I didn't know that you can actually push the pliers closed without having to open them before. Well done Knipex !
(https://i.imgur.com/G7kxOg1.gif)
:salute:
Post by: FolderBeholder on November 24, 2020, 02:30:35 PM
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50640535893_ebf1c7e54e.jpg)
Post by: McStitchy on November 24, 2020, 03:09:03 PM
The mailman brought me the pair on the right a couple of days ago. :mail:
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50640535893_ebf1c7e54e.jpg)
(https://media4.giphy.com/media/JUh0yTz4h931K/giphy.gif?cid=6c09b95220cb7d7a8131c9b3c8db5be0f67b226db4510015&rid=giphy.gif)
Post by: Rizio Il Ghiro on November 24, 2020, 03:09:38 PM
Post by: McStitchy on November 24, 2020, 03:10:34 PM
Post by: FolderBeholder on November 24, 2020, 03:39:31 PM
All these bloomin’ enablers - needless to say I’ve ordered one now! :facepalm:Prepare to be delighted! :cheers:
Post by: Kraken on November 24, 2020, 03:41:23 PM
Post by: Sos24 on November 25, 2020, 01:42:40 AM
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Post by: SirVicaLot on November 25, 2020, 05:59:12 AM
Prepare to be delighted! :cheers::iagree: These small Knipex pliers are superior over any MT pliers.
Post by: McStitchy on November 25, 2020, 08:38:36 AM
I don’t carry this combo, but thought I’d show it just for those who might like locking pliers. I also have a pair the same size of needle nose locking pliers
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20201125/ac5ccbe39f4b973f01a9ef71c1eb2e88.jpg)
That's a good idea as well Sos :like:
There are super small Vise Grips too.
Post by: Echotech on November 25, 2020, 12:06:13 PM
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The 10” is much more of a beast
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20201125/ac949c618c5e4265dac9a3b6ab6542b9.jpg)
Post by: McStitchy on November 25, 2020, 01:30:53 PM
Post by: samek on November 25, 2020, 01:35:06 PM
Samek
Post by: Max Stone on November 25, 2020, 04:37:35 PM
Post by: powernoodle on November 25, 2020, 09:28:02 PM
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Post by: Echotech on November 25, 2020, 10:06:52 PM
Channel lock mini... nice Eco :like::tu: thanks McStitchy :cheers:
Post by: McStitchy on November 25, 2020, 10:47:27 PM
Here in The Colonies, the 5", 6" and 7" Cobras cost less on Amazon than the 4" XS Cobra (US$33.64 shipped, which isn't bad). #theychargemorefornewstuff
:sa:
Post by: TazzieRob on November 25, 2020, 10:50:14 PM
Post by: TazzieRob on November 25, 2020, 10:53:02 PM
Here in The Colonies, the 5", 6" and 7" Cobras cost less on Amazon than the 4" XS Cobra (US$33.64 shipped, which isn't bad). #theychargemorefornewstuff
It's true. Once these sell more the price "should" come down. I ended up getting mine from a tool seller on eBay but they were still AU$50 :facepalm: Mind you, from a local store they were AU$80.... :ahhh
Post by: theonew on November 26, 2020, 01:12:57 AM
Post by: McStitchy on November 26, 2020, 01:25:29 AM
My Cobra XS came in handy the other day to turn a knurled micrometer knob attached to a stepper motor. Due to the amount it was wound in there wasn't much to grab hold of and the stepper motor magnets made it hard to turn by hand :tu:
That's a good use :tu:
The Cobras have a nice grip!
It's true. Once these sell more the price "should" come down. I ended up getting mine from a tool seller on eBay but they were still AU$50 :facepalm: Mind you, from a local store they were AU$80.... :ahhh
80 is just wild ::)
Post by: Barry Rowland on November 26, 2020, 04:26:48 AM
Post by: McStitchy on November 26, 2020, 08:56:28 AM
:ahhh
Post by: Rizio Il Ghiro on November 26, 2020, 01:20:50 PM
Well a courier has dropped off a package containing my cobra xs, and it came with a free bung which I’ll put in my plumbing box. I include a shot with various other tools for size comparison - Knipex cobra and plier wrench in 125 (usually live in the pouch above in my gun box), my trusty Spirit in black, a 93 Ti scales pioneer x mod by me (scales came from Oz though - not claiming I can machine those - just simple disassembly and re-assembly are the limits of my “workshop”!), and a 100mm bahco, though the one I will pair the cobra xs with is black - not sure where it is at the mo (possibly in a jacket I left at a friend’s when re-hanging a radiator for him - I’ll collect when lockdown lifts and we can enjoy a beer or two) so this shiny one from my cycle toolbox will stand in. Quite a fan of mini-tools and I’ve amassed a fee Wiha and Wera kits over the years, but buying tools isn’t really spending, is it, eh??!! :pok:
Post by: McStitchy on November 26, 2020, 02:29:22 PM
Post by: SirVicaLot on November 26, 2020, 02:38:08 PM
..., but buying tools isn’t really spending, is it, eh??!! :pok:
No, it is getting ready for a future project :D
Post by: Aloha on November 26, 2020, 03:52:30 PM
Post by: Echotech on November 27, 2020, 07:17:02 AM
Sometimes you really do need more than pocket size :think:
Ideally would’ve used a vice but don’t have one so the 10” ChannelLock was used to hold them (cushioned with cardboard) and the vice grips to snap them on
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20201127/89941beb60200bc9a4e3a49fa5ef7122.jpg)
Post by: Barry Rowland on November 27, 2020, 04:50:51 PM
Post by: Rizio Il Ghiro on November 28, 2020, 01:02:29 PM
Post by: SirVicaLot on November 28, 2020, 02:08:21 PM
Post by: Altis on December 20, 2020, 02:31:43 AM
I just happened to come across these mini Mastercraft (Canadian Tire store brand) on sale (CAD $10 for the 3-pack, $4 each for the other two)
Interestingly, the small pair in the set (on the left) isn't the same as the ones that came on their own; the teeth are a bit more C-shape and the release works the opposite way (push inwards instead of outwards).
They're very small, especially when locked closed, and weight very little. I don't have a scale but by my estimation they're about the same weight as the Super Tinker.
(Pictured next to a green Farmer X and winter magic Super Tinker)
(https://i.ibb.co/rFsBXK5/Mastercraft-Small-Locking-Pliers-1.jpg) (https://ibb.co/sbHTXps)
(https://i.ibb.co/6J43755/Mastercraft-Small-Locking-Pliers-4.jpg) (https://ibb.co/cXNGSdd)
(https://i.ibb.co/VCBNcjL/Mastercraft-Small-Locking-Pliers-8.jpg) (https://ibb.co/dpKcwWf)
Post by: SirVicaLot on December 20, 2020, 02:53:46 AM
Post by: SirVicaLot on December 20, 2020, 02:59:44 AM
(https://images.salsify.com/image/upload/s--bP09zuif--/w_600/dlr1mln5cws64egfltgl.jpg)
They are only 11.5cm long (4.5inches). Anybody have experience with those? Reviews go from great to junk, but first hand experience would be great :cheers:
Post by: Echotech on December 20, 2020, 03:13:15 AM
I found these Channellock 524 the other day:Not these in particular SirVic but the ChannelLock adjustables I’ve got are excellent :cheers:
(https://images.salsify.com/image/upload/s--bP09zuif--/w_600/dlr1mln5cws64egfltgl.jpg)
They are only 11.5cm long (4.5inches). Anybody have experience with those? Reviews go from great to junk, but first hand experience would be great :cheers:
Post by: SirVicaLot on December 20, 2020, 03:31:07 PM
Post by: Rizio Il Ghiro on December 20, 2020, 06:27:45 PM
Post by: Boonies on December 22, 2020, 03:39:13 AM
Post by: McStitchy on December 22, 2020, 10:56:03 AM
Post by: nate j on December 23, 2020, 12:51:36 AM
Not these in particular SirVic but the ChannelLock adjustables I’ve got are excellent :cheers:
:iagree:
Post by: Turbo T Terry on December 24, 2020, 02:04:06 AM
Post by: nate j on December 24, 2020, 04:38:28 AM
I have carried a Leatherman and a SwissTool in the past, but I didn't like the pliers on either well enough to put up with how cumbersome I found it to use the other tools.
Terry, I think you've touched on one of the main reasons I've always gone for knife-based MTs over pliers-based MTs. Having the additional tools on the knife-based MT generally doesn't disrupt the usability or form factor. Many pliers-based MTs, however, range from awkward to downright uncomfortable to use IMO.
Post by: SirVicaLot on December 24, 2020, 05:30:45 AM
Post by: Echotech on December 24, 2020, 05:48:12 AM
Can see a pair of these teamed with a SAK Ranger as an excellent pocket tool kit. My ChannelLock 6” adjustables weigh 169gm, so a good saving :tu:
Post by: McStitchy on December 24, 2020, 03:45:15 PM
https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/aw/d/B086K4ZMT3/ref=cm_cr_othr_mb_bdcrb_top?ie=UTF8#cm_cr_carousel_images_section (https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/aw/d/B086K4ZMT3/ref=cm_cr_othr_mb_bdcrb_top?ie=UTF8#cm_cr_carousel_images_section)
Post by: FolderBeholder on December 24, 2020, 04:23:32 PM
Can see a pair of these teamed with a SAK Ranger as an excellent pocket tool kit. My ChannelLock 6” adjustables weigh 169gm, so a good saving :tu:Which Ranger do you want it paired with? I can snap a photo for you.
Post by: Echotech on December 25, 2020, 01:07:25 AM
Which Ranger do you want it paired with? I can snap a photo for you.Thanks FB
I ended up ordering one last night :facepalm:
Was thinking 91mm Ranger but I’ve got a Ranger wood too
:cheers:
Post by: powernoodle on December 25, 2020, 03:08:12 AM
Just got this Knipex XS. Its a little on the teeny side, and I may revert to the 5" Cobra. But its fun to play with and I bet its got some utility in it.
(https://i.imgur.com/WaH8Sh4.jpg)
Post by: Aloha on January 07, 2021, 09:05:30 PM
Post by: Rizio Il Ghiro on January 07, 2021, 10:23:05 PM
Post by: Aloha on January 07, 2021, 10:28:35 PM
Post by: magentus on January 09, 2021, 11:50:06 AM
Post by: McStitchy on January 09, 2021, 11:58:27 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/CQKXjBV.jpg)
Just got this Knipex XS. Its a little on the teeny side, and I may revert to the 5" Cobra. But its fun to play with and I bet its got some utility in it.
(https://i.imgur.com/WaH8Sh4.jpg)
:iagree: :like:
The 125 definitively provides more gripping power though. It all depends on the use case.
Post by: McStitchy on January 09, 2021, 11:58:59 AM
How about a Proto 230 paired with SAK of choice and in my case a Cadet.
That's a sexy combo Aloha :drool:
Post by: McStitchy on January 09, 2021, 11:59:54 AM
Long time fan of the 125mm Knipex Cobra - carry one at work and couple it with my Farmer - great combo
Lovely wear on that Farmer Mags :like:
Post by: magentus on January 09, 2021, 12:11:54 PM
Lovely wear on that Farmer Mags :like:That's U Boat life for you :cheers:
Post by: McStitchy on January 09, 2021, 01:14:29 PM
That's U Boat life for you :cheers:
If we had a facility on board to wash the salty porridge off of our hands I'm sure our tools would show more colour still :pok:
Btw, what do you think about the 125mm plier wrench vs 125mm Cobra?
The plier wrench design allows for more gripping power at the same size.
Post by: magentus on January 09, 2021, 01:44:37 PM
If we had a facility on board to wash the salty porridge off of our hands I'm sure our tools would show more colour still :pok:Firstly, it's a U Boat, not a palace mate. Washing facilities?
Btw, what do you think about the 125mm plier wrench vs 125mm Cobra?
The plier wrench design allows for more gripping power at the same size.
Secondly, my wallet has told my brain to ignore the existence of the Knipex plier wrench, so I have absolutely no idea of what you're talking about Princess.
Post by: McStitchy on January 09, 2021, 02:09:04 PM
Post by: Rizio Il Ghiro on January 09, 2021, 03:35:32 PM
Post by: SirVicaLot on January 09, 2021, 03:54:31 PM
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Post by: magentus on January 09, 2021, 04:26:08 PM
Mags, I got your back. Let’s just put some classics in our ears, that way we can’t hear these enablers :DCheers mate :cheers: Classics applied - can't hear a thing. SAID I CAN'T HEAR A THING
(https://media.giphy.com/media/h0j4SA7UoYDNC/giphy.gif)
WHAT?
Post by: McStitchy on January 09, 2021, 04:41:56 PM
Post by: Aloha on January 09, 2021, 04:54:46 PM
That's a sexy combo Aloha :drool:
:salute: Thank you.
Post by: SirVicaLot on January 09, 2021, 08:09:35 PM
Cheers mate :cheers: Classics applied - can't hear a thing. SAID I CAN'T HEAR A THING
WHAT?
I just assume you agreed because I can’t hear you!!
:cheers:
:D
Post by: Hevy (CT-782) on January 10, 2021, 02:16:25 AM
If we had a facility on board to wash the salty porridge off of our hands I'm sure our tools would show more colour still :pok:Great kit McS!!!
Btw, what do you think about the 125mm plier wrench vs 125mm Cobra?
The plier wrench design allows for more gripping power at the same size.
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Post by: nate j on January 10, 2021, 05:46:40 AM
what do you think about the 125mm plier wrench vs 125mm Cobra?
The plier wrench design allows for more gripping power at the same size.
It’s a bit apples and oranges...
The plier wrench, with its flat, smooth, parallel jaws, is really more comparable in function to an adjustable wrench than to any other type of pliers. It excels with nuts, bolts, or anything else with wrench flats, but will not be able to effectively grip round or irregularly shaped objects.
The Cobra, being water pump pliers, have toothy, arcing jaws. They are capable of gripping round or irregular objects. They will work on nuts and bolts as well, but all other things being equal would be expected to slip at a lower torque than a plier wrench, and have an increased probability of damaging the work piece.
To summarize, if I were only going to carry one or the other, it would be the Cobra, due to its superior versatility. If I were putting together a larger toolkit or toolbox, it might very well make sense to include one (or even several) of each.
Post by: McStitchy on January 10, 2021, 10:12:14 AM
Of course it's apples and oranges :D
The Cobras are more versatile as you mention.
However, I seem to have more jobs coming up for the PlierWrench.
For example, I had to turn a radiator valve with a missing knob. They are seized a bit and hard to turn. The small Cobras were just able to do it but left their impressions while trying (on the valve stud and my hand).
The smallest PlierWrench does this with ease :dunno:
So your vote goes to the Cobra :tu:
While I'm leaning towards the PlierWrench at the moment... but not sure yet. I've just started testing SAK / Pliers combos.
Post by: McStitchy on January 10, 2021, 10:13:02 AM
Great kit McS!!!
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:cheers:
Post by: nate j on January 10, 2021, 07:44:15 PM
So your vote goes to the Cobra :tu:
Yes, if it to be one or the other, my vote goes to the Cobra for versatility.
If you’re on the fence, maybe you need this:
https://www.knipex.com/index.php?id=1216&L=1&page=art_detail&isMobile=&parentID=1373&groupID=1806&artID=30614
Post by: McStitchy on January 10, 2021, 11:15:01 PM
Post by: TazzieRob on January 11, 2021, 12:01:58 AM
Post by: SirVicaLot on January 19, 2021, 07:48:59 PM
(https://www.justbenphotography.com/img/s/v-10/p4110315827-4.jpg)
The quality of the Channellock is ... challenged. As you can tell, the jaws don't align very well. Surprisingly, sometimes they look like this, sometimes they align better. I assume this has something to do with the large tolerances. You get what you pay for :dunno:
It has wire cutting abilities, but I have not tested that yet.
(https://www.justbenphotography.com/img/s/v-10/p4110315788-4.jpg)
The quality of the Knipex XS is impeccable, as expected. It already founds its way into my EDC pouch. :like: It goes very well with my CT :tu:
(https://www.justbenphotography.com/img/s/v-10/p4110315789-4.jpg)
Post by: SirVicaLot on February 09, 2021, 05:29:42 PM
Farmer X and Cobra
Post by: McStitchy on February 09, 2021, 06:13:42 PM
:like:
Post by: kamakiri on February 09, 2021, 07:26:36 PM
My guess not advice is for those who have not tried the PWs...just do it. Pick a size that you think might be useful for what you do. Then you’ll know.
Post by: McStitchy on February 09, 2021, 08:08:58 PM
The PW has lots more gripping power than Cobras of the same size.
From my own experience the smallest PliersWrench are still fully useable, while the Cobra XS could use some longer handles in some situations.
Either way I like them both :tu:
Post by: Echotech on February 09, 2021, 10:47:37 PM
(https://www.justbenphotography.com/img/s/v-10/p4125315904-4.jpg)Nice combo SirVic :like:
Farmer X and Cobra
Post by: kamakiri on February 10, 2021, 12:48:37 AM
Wera nice Grant :like:
The PW has lots more gripping power than Cobras of the same size.
From my own experience the smallest PliersWrench are still fully useable, while the Cobra XS could use some longer handles in some situations.
Either way I like them both :tu:
:iagree:
I do like both or just about anything Knipex...consider me a fan!
I’m just feeling like anyone arguing against the PliersWrench might simply need to give them a try first.
Autocorrect got me a bit in the last post. “My guess not advice...” lol. I think my phone is taking over. :think:
Post by: SirVicaLot on February 10, 2021, 04:06:32 AM
Post by: kamakiri on February 10, 2021, 04:52:40 AM
Bending, holding, crushing, clamping, pressing, flattening, twisting, rounding...are just some of the things I’d use the PW for.
I have all the sockets and drivers that I need for nuts n bolts...probably wouldn’t grab the PW for much of that. I don’t even see the crescent really overlapping the PW functions.
But I do see how I might use both PW and Cobra together when pipe and a fitting are involved.
I think the PW is a whole ‘nother thing. And yes, good thing they make both! :tu:
Post by: SirVicaLot on February 10, 2021, 05:10:04 AM
Post by: kamakiri on February 10, 2021, 04:14:21 PM
Interesting, I thought you would primarily use a tool like the PW for nuts and bolts. Could you show us one or two of your usage scenarios please? :popcorn:
Since this is a SAK forum...Fix a corkscrew, press on a set of scales, straighten a bent scissor tip. Those were the last three things I did with them.
It really is a brilliant tool. I keep finding new uses for it...for tasks that I used to use many other tools to do.
The main limit to my 125 is the jaw size, and why I want to add the 175/7”.
The last couple of non-SAK things I fixed were a zipper pull and an old stapler.
It’s like a vice with tiny jaws, which fits in your pocket.
I hope that explains better why I’d suggest to anybody to get a pair.
Post by: SirVicaLot on February 10, 2021, 05:27:16 PM
Post by: kamakiri on February 10, 2021, 06:16:34 PM
It does, thanks! Great, now I need to order another tool... :D
:cheers:
Just passing on the wisdom granted to me by ‘Stichy a couple years ago. :D
This is how MTO
Post by: Rizio Il Ghiro on February 10, 2021, 08:40:56 PM
Post by: Pignut71 on February 10, 2021, 09:34:07 PM
I feel like an addict that has fallen off the wagon right now. The Mrs won't be happy, maybe I can intercept the delivery?
Never mind, tomorrow is a new day...
Post by: McStitchy on February 10, 2021, 09:52:52 PM
Post by: kamakiri on February 10, 2021, 10:00:34 PM
Nicely put, Kamakiri! :rofl:
:D
:rofl:
At least now all the angry wives can go after you not me. ;) :D
Post by: Rizio Il Ghiro on February 10, 2021, 10:02:36 PM
Post by: McStitchy on February 10, 2021, 10:27:58 PM
Post by: Altis on February 10, 2021, 10:50:53 PM
Oh Dear, I stepped away from this forum for a little while (because I'm weak and easily 'persuaded') but just decided to 'drop in' for a little catch up and now I've just ordered the Cobra & Plier Wrench combo set from Amazon....
I feel like an addict that has fallen off the wagon right now. The Mrs won't be happy, maybe I can intercept the delivery?
Never mind, tomorrow is a new day...
At least it's a bit easier to justify acquiring tools that make you handy to have around. :cheers:
Just don't let her see the whole collection at once :o :whistle:
Post by: MadPlumbarian on February 10, 2021, 11:04:39 PM
I think multitools are great, but there only great for light duty, same thing for sak, yeah it’s a knife but the screwdrivers will only take so much torque, but these sak’s with pliers on them I can believe they even put them on the knife,, but doing this is the smart thing using an actual pair of pliers, now I’ve never seen this “ Practical Toolset” that someone posted way back but that there is the ultimate combo! Just put whatever sak that fits you and a pair of actual pliers!
Unfortunately I don’t need to carry pliers anymore or else I’d get me a nice pair of small channel locks that a sak would slip between the handles or find some unique sheath,,
JR
Post by: bryan123 on February 10, 2021, 11:15:37 PM
I like this pairing better than all the plier-based multitools I've tried.
Probably sticking with this until Victotinox comes up with an Alox option with the same Phillips.
2nd post btw. Thanks for the add.
Post by: colt 1911 on February 11, 2021, 12:06:14 AM
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Post by: SirVicaLot on February 11, 2021, 02:23:40 AM
:cheers:
Just passing on the wisdom granted to me by ‘Stichy a couple years ago. :D
This is how MTOco-enables, helps usbuy our way out ofsolveimaginaryproblems. ;)
:rofl: Well put :D
Post by: SirVicaLot on February 11, 2021, 02:25:06 AM
Oh Dear, I stepped away from this forum for a little while (because I'm weak and easily 'persuaded') but just decided to 'drop in' for a little catch up and now I've just ordered the Cobra & Plier Wrench combo set from Amazon....
I feel like an addict that has fallen off the wagon right now. The Mrs won't be happy, maybe I can intercept the delivery?
Never mind, tomorrow is a new day...
Just tell her you could waste your money on drugs and cigarettes. At least in tools it is well invested for whenever the next project comes up :cheers:
Post by: SirVicaLot on February 11, 2021, 02:26:51 AM
Mrs. Kamakiri gave up on complaining and just handed me a couple of packages a minute ago.
:rofl: Resistance is futile :rofl:
Post by: SirVicaLot on February 11, 2021, 02:29:37 AM
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Nice combo! :like: What scales are on that SAK?
Post by: colt 1911 on February 11, 2021, 03:11:04 AM
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Post by: SirVicaLot on February 11, 2021, 03:29:38 AM
Post by: kamakiri on February 14, 2021, 07:25:43 AM
:rofl: Resistance is futile :rofl:
:rofl: Yeah, and I’m glad Valentine’s is on Sunday, because no deliveries.
...
Was thinking about your request for uses earlier as I was doing some SAK fixin. Used the PW (help) remove, reinstall and modify some scissor springs.
Late-‘73 136ka - Craftsman with the modified double leaf spring that was broken and in another knife. This one was going into EDC rotation and I didn’t want a ‘correct’ vintage double leaf in this one.
Post by: McStitchy on February 14, 2021, 10:32:22 AM
I might try out that double leaf spring mod myself :tu:
Post by: kamakiri on February 14, 2021, 07:22:27 PM
That's s beauty Grant :dd::cheers:
I might try out that double leaf spring mod myself :tu:
Thanks Matt! This one is nice enough and was my only non +PAT Craftsman for a while. I got a better ‘74 copy, so this one got rotated to EDC, and needed lots of prep and cleaning prior to use.
You should do it! It’s a good way to reuse the broken ones.
Post by: theonew on February 14, 2021, 11:03:02 PM
The 100mm knifpex does look pretty cool though and I will probably end up getting one
Post by: Fireman on February 15, 2021, 12:49:21 AM
(https://i.ibb.co/zGz69MS/Pliers.jpg)
Post by: SirVicaLot on February 15, 2021, 03:25:40 PM