01 - Nix
02 - Wspeed
03 - gerleatherberman
I should add, if anyone wants a copy of the PDF file for one or both checklists, I will be happy to email the "Official" checklist to him or her. (And Wspeed and G-man also have copies of the checklists.)I felt like I had forgotten something! Thank you, Nix! :cheers:
Multitool-on! :cheers:
So this particular badge requires specific actions and pictures to be taken? While all other 30-day badges do not?
That's odd. :think:
So this particular badge requires specific actions and pictures to be taken? While all other 30-day badges do not?Hi RP we just wanted to do something slightly different
That's odd. :think:
So this particular badge requires specific actions and pictures to be taken? While all other 30-day badges do not?
That's odd. :think:
I was looking forward to removing the neighbors spark plugsSo this particular badge requires specific actions and pictures to be taken? While all other 30-day badges do not?
That's odd. :think:
You should have seen the checklist before it got revised.........
And defusing a live bomb. :tu:I was looking forward to removing the neighbors spark plugsSo this particular badge requires specific actions and pictures to be taken? While all other 30-day badges do not?
That's odd. :think:
You should have seen the checklist before it got revised.........
From their car :rofl:
That’s a good one didn’t think of that :think: :like: :like:And defusing a live bomb. :tu:I was looking forward to removing the neighbors spark plugsSo this particular badge requires specific actions and pictures to be taken? While all other 30-day badges do not?
That's odd. :think:
You should have seen the checklist before it got revised.........
From their car :rofl:
You have a number 4. :tu: :like:Nice to have you join us DP :cheers: :like: :like:
Will be using the power access I got in last years MTO anniversary party. :salute:
01 - Nix
02 - Wspeed
03 - gerleatherberman
04 - Don Pablo
It sounds like it will be a fun challenge!You have a number 4. :tu: :like:Nice to have you join us DP :cheers: :like: :like:
Will be using the power access I got in last years MTO anniversary party. :salute:
01 - Nix
02 - Wspeed
03 - gerleatherberman
04 - Don Pablo
Ok Pabs :tu:It sounds like it will be a fun challenge!You have a number 4. :tu: :like:Nice to have you join us DP :cheers: :like: :like:
Will be using the power access I got in last years MTO anniversary party. :salute:
01 - Nix
02 - Wspeed
03 - gerleatherberman
04 - Don Pablo
:popcorn:
And call me Pabs, like before. :cheers: :D
*Babs::)
Did I kill this thread and challenge?
I hope not, if so it was unintentional. :(
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Looks likeWspeed and I will get going on or around 15 June with our Power Access Deluxes......assuming he's gotten his replacement by thenI need to pay better attention........
Have a safe trip Nix :cheers: :salute:+1 :tu:
Yes the challenge is still starting on the 1st of June :tu:
And would love to see more members joining us
Sorry again for the mix up Nix :facepalm: :tu:
Excellent pic for comparingThank you, W! :cheers:
the different models of SOG
Nice one GLBM :cheers: :like: :like:
Got outside on my day off. :)Wow that PAD looks huge next to the PA :like: :like: :tu:
Thank you, W! :cheers:Got outside on my day off. :)Wow that PAD looks huge next to the PA :like: :like: :tu:
And what is that little SOG
Is that the Pint :tu:
So I have been gone a while but as some of you may know I am the MTO officer in charge of checking lists for completeness and such.:rofl:
In my official capacity while reviewing your challenge list I noticed no mention of a C4 / TNT test?
Very disappointed.
At least we destroyed the original list. :rofl: :rofl: :like:So I have been gone a while but as some of you may know I am the MTO officer in charge of checking lists for completeness and such.:rofl:
In my official capacity while reviewing your challenge list I noticed no mention of a C4 / TNT test?
Very disappointed.
I've got a few bottle rockets. Maybe strap them to the PAD and see if it'll move a little. :D
BTW. Now the FBI will be keeping tabs on the PowerAccess challenge thread. :ahhh :D
So I have been gone a while but as some of you may know I am the MTO officer in charge of checking lists for completeness and such.:rofl:
In my official capacity while reviewing your challenge list I noticed no mention of a C4 / TNT test?
Very disappointed.
I've got a few bottle rockets. Maybe strap them to the PAD and see if it'll move a little. :D
BTW. Now the FBI will be keeping tabs on the PowerAccess challenge thread. :ahhh :D
Thanks for the measurements gerleatherberman, hadn't taken a caliper to it yet. True, overall size of all blades and implements is more compact than I know for LMs of comparable size, but I put this down to the additional space needed in the SOG for the plier mechanism and the PAD does seem to optimise space use (and weight) more than comparable LMs generally do.:cheers:
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Thanks :cheers::cheers:
One thing I like a lot already is the bit set and the possibilities on the PAD to use it, including the 90° lock stop on the stub for the bit driver extension.
Another is the sheath's Molle attachment that also permits horizontal carry on narrower belts...
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That’s a nice pic GLBM :dd: :like: :like:Thank you, W! :cheers:
:popcorn:
Gonna start keeping it in my pocket now!
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:popcorn:
Gonna start keeping it in my pocket now!
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Yup, it did. :):popcorn:
Gonna start keeping it in my pocket now!
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Did yours come with that pocket clip? Just curious - I'd probably carry it in the sheath anyway...
Oh, I see, thanks - I was just trying to imagine pocket-carrying a Deluxe. Not my preferred option because of the bulk.Yup, it did. :):popcorn:
Gonna start keeping it in my pocket now!
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Did yours come with that pocket clip? Just curious - I'd probably carry it in the sheath anyway...
And it’s a regular poweraccess, not a poweraccess deluxe.
You lads didn't think that Powernoodle would miss a PowerAccess Challenge, did you?Excellent Powernoodle nice to have you join us :cheers:
:ahhh :ahhh :ahhh
01 - Nix
02 - Wspeed
03 - gerleatherberman
04 - Don Pablo
05 - Dutch_Tooler
06 - Powernoodle
I do, Sire. Read to rock-n-roll. :salute:Nice one :tu:
Is brass rod (under 3mm/ 1/8” ) considered “hard”?Not sure what SOG would class as hard wire :think:
I believe things like that disappear the first time you use the saw?Yup - they did :tu: (had to help a little at the very tip by way of judicious application of an X-Acto blade).
I see them to a lesser extent with unused SAK saws.
The box also shows a wire crimper (see #18 in post 86), that is not shown on the website. Intrigue!Excellent :rofl: :rofl:
the fan in the downstairs toilet
It stays on for 30 minutes after you leave the toilet
Which is too long :ahhh
Good one :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :like:the fan in the downstairs toilet
It stays on for 30 minutes after you leave the toilet
Which is too long :ahhh
If you've ever had some of ThePeacent's cabbage and jalapeno casserole, you'll know that sometimes 30 minutes isn't enough.
Back to the short saw... I've found a spare ST300 saw in my parts bin which is making me think... :think:That looks a lot more usable D_T :like: :like:
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That’s a shame TP :ahhh :ahhh
Have you got a pic of the braided wire you cut :tu:
Thanks TP :cheers:That’s a shame TP :ahhh :ahhh
Have you got a pic of the braided wire you cut :tu:
well, actually yes I have. :D After all the drama to cut that d*rn wire I sure was going to keep it :angel:
Next to a Rambler and Spirit for size reference, is just what I had laying on the table
:salute:
DT,
Unfortunately [...] we knew before buying the PADs/PAs that the file would be garbage. Plus, if you rub the file on soft material very hard, it will remove material....Technically...
SOG SHOULD offer to make and send out correctly machined files for anyone willing to pop one in their PAD. I wouldn't pay the shipping and/or wait for weeks to let SOG do it. The damn thing was too expensive to start with. :facepalm:
I am very impressed with the pliers so far
That would be nice, as long as they don’t become weak :tu:I am very impressed with the pliers so far
Me too. The pliers/cutter/compound leverage is far and away the best part of this MT. It equals or exceeds the utility of the competition. The only improvement might be the addition of replaceable cutters.
I am very impressed with the pliers so far
Me too. The pliers/cutter/compound leverage is far and away the best part of this MT. It equals or exceeds the utility of the competition. The only improvement might be the addition of replaceable cutters.
Yeah, many folks prefer the non-replaceable cutters on the Gerbers, for example, as being less prone to fracture than the replaceable cutters.
Thanks TP :cheers:That’s a shame TP :ahhh :ahhh
Have you got a pic of the braided wire you cut :tu:
well, actually yes I have. :D After all the drama to cut that d*rn wire I sure was going to keep it :angel:
Next to a Rambler and Spirit for size reference, is just what I had laying on the table
:salute:
You would think that it is ok to cut wire :think:
Are you going to send it to SOG for warranty :tu:
I like the finish of the PAD
I take it you don’t like the PAD then powernoodle :think:I like the finish of the PAD
If I really liked the PAD, I would probably really like the stonewashed finish. But as I pretty much dislike the PAD, it stinks up what I think about the finish.
Current Powernoodle Dynamic Assessment Rating ("CPDAR"): 4/10
Got a email from Chris@SOG and this is what he wrote
I don’t have a good answer for you on the file. I’ve alerted Engineering and hopefully that will address the issue.
Here is the answer I got from one of our engineers
As a general rule, if it is non-structural (or not intended to sustain mechanical loads) it is soft wire. One example is copper electrical wire with plastic insulation. If it deoes sustain mechanical loads it is hard wire. Example chicken wire.
Hopefully this helps out.
Powernoodle Day 5
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The "file" on the PowerAccess Deluxe is so poorly made as to be virtually non-functional. It would not smooth out the rough spots on this plastic outdoor garbage bin.
I take it you don’t like the PAD then powernoodle :think:
Powernoodle Day 5:o
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The "file" on the PowerAccess Deluxe is so poorly made as to be virtually non-functional. It would not smooth out the rough spots on this plastic outdoor garbage bin.
I take it you don’t like the PAD then powernoodle :think:
I do not, and am going to return the PAD to Amazon. I would keep the PAD if it were just a mediocre MT. But I just feel that SOG has punked me by putting that thing on there that they call a file, when they know full well that it doesn't work. So I'm returning the PAD largely because I don't like being treated like a knucklehead.
Unfortunately, this means that I will drop out of the Challenge. I hate to abandon my comrades, but we don't know how these Challenges will turn out until we try. This is my first failure to complete a Challenge, but the return period on the MT is before the end of the Challenge so its now or never. I'll continue to watch and participate in some way, and maybe carry another SOG for the remainder as a small show of unity with the downtrodden.
I'm still a fan of the PowerLock and PowerAssist, though this experience has diminished my opinion of SOG as a maker.
I think that most tools on any make of Multi toolHey W,
Look low quality compared to the Swiss Army Knife tools :think:
Your PAD file, from comparing photos, is MUCH more poorly machined than the file on my PAD.
Can the file on yours even smooth a fingernail?
That’s no problem GLBM :cheers:
What I mean is that when I look at the crunch or Supertool
Like the screw drivers they are just a straight bit of metal
With the end ground down a bit so it fits a screw
They work fine but just aren’t made very nice
I just feel that MT company’s concentrates more
On the pliers than their tools that goes in the models :tu:
I would hope SOG could rectify the problem, but their track record is abysmal at best, with cancelling the model being their solution with troublesome models(ex. PowerGrab and PowerDuo). However, all my rambling aside, I'll reserve judgement for the PAD until I see how they react to the file abomination.Your PAD file, from comparing photos, is MUCH more poorly machined than the file on my PAD.
Yeah, and that pic is of the double-cut or "good" side.QuoteCan the file on yours even smooth a fingernail?
No, neither side would shape a fingernail.
I do not begrudge a maker too much for allowing something to slip through CQ. But this is a design or manufacturing problem (a design problem, really) that is endemic to this MT. I don't think the file was ever intended to work because the design, even if perfectly executed in manufacturering, would still be more akin to a butter knife than a file.
Yeah, I could have continued to test the other tools. But if you know that you are going to break up with a lass, you might as well get it over now and move on. And my return window was closing.
I have be honest and say that it feels real good to have a Swisstool Spirit in my pocket. I might switch to an ST300 to get the endorphins going.
I hate not participating in this one, but God willing I will be around for future Challenges because I love MTO and love my toys. I think maybe there at least 2 Challenges starting in July.
Day 7Could see the pic earlier today, so something has happened
PAD's compound leverage pliers to the rescue intervening in a repair following a typical office accident involving destruction of a sprung badge holder reel. The repairs involved putting my preferred black leather badge holder on a new reel - I hate these clunky plastic badge holders :rant:
Edit: glad you could join us Nix :tu: :cheers:
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Seems to be happening to more members today :think:Day 7Could see the pic earlier today, so something has happened
PAD's compound leverage pliers to the rescue intervening in a repair following a typical office accident involving destruction of a sprung badge holder reel. The repairs involved putting my preferred black leather badge holder on a new reel - I hate these clunky plastic badge holders :rant:
Edit: glad you could join us Nix :tu: :cheers:
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Here are some pics of the file from my PAD
Well a bit of scratched metal
you can’t call it a file :rant:
It’s absolutely unacceptable :rant:Here are some pics of the file from my PAD
Well a bit of scratched metal
you can’t call it a file :rant:
That looks like a movie prop. Not a real file, but it could fool viewers.
Not easy to find on my phone after the resizing, but here's my missing Day 7 picture.Good you got it sorted D_T :cheers:
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however loads the image. Next month Chrome will start reporting all regular http links as insecure so I hope crapolatalk get whatever certificate they need sorted done.
I think I see the issue.
I use chrome, as I assume many others do, and the tapatalk image is on https link, but chrome says it's an unsafe domain, so when I open the image link in a new tab ie:Code: [Select]https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180607/8c25b2419aaaa540b308afd4ca79383b.jpg
says insecure and I see no photoCode: [Select]http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180607/8c25b2419aaaa540b308afd4ca79383b.jpg
however loads the image. Next month Chrome will start reporting all regular http links as insecure so I hope crapolatalk get whatever certificate they need sorted done.
So Mr. Grumpy here is more saddened by SOG the company than the PAD itself.
If the SOG had included a proper file on the PAD, I believe overall opinion would differ to some large degree.
Hey, fair point.
It does carry fairly well in a back pocket or the sheath.
No complaints there. :tu:
Nice pic, DT!
It does show one of the downsides to the compound leverage system though. Handle splaaaaayyyyyy. :ahhh
PAD hanging out on an old wagon wheel hub.
:rofl::like:
Well, you may find something new to enjoy! :rofl: :tu:
:rofl::like:
Well, you may find something new to enjoy! :rofl: :tu:
I tried out the small driver on the can opener on my older multi-meter. Worked great in adjusting it and removing the back to check the batteries. Changed the AA and the 9V was good. Not sure what the graphic on the 9V is about and do not remember putting it in there. :think:
Maybe my older brother put that battery in when he borrowed it a few years ago. :P
Then I was just playing around with the PAD's 1/4" driver. :D
Day 11 continued
Here are some close ups of the damage
I don’t know how Powernoodle
got away with cutting that nail he did :think:
I was looking at the can opener on the PAD and a can opener on a SAK
And noticed that the opener on the SAK has a cutting edge like a knife
And the SOG opener only one side has a cutting edge
and only halfway on the curved edge
I also noticed that the PAD can opener looks left handed
As the SOG and SAK have the angles and grinds are opposites
I am left handed so it will be a good test for me
Just need to find some cans now as most now have ring pulls :ahhh
Here are a few pics of what I am talking about :tu:
Nails are a tough order. I'm not surprised to see some rolling from that test. But, I think this is where LM's replaceable cutters are a good idea. It's not often I need to cut a nail (or other hard wire), but it's nice to know that one could and then replace a mangled cutter if required. And, even with regular use, I suspect all cutters can dull or chip (I've got some dedicated wire cutters with the odd chip in them).
:popcorn:I was thinking the same about the can’t opener
At least for the can't opener, there is some hope it can be turned into a can opener easily, i.e. by grinding it a little. Of course, that is something SOG should have done in the first place...
I am almost dreading my nail cutting test now... :o
Day 11 continued
Here are some close ups of the damage
I don’t know how Powernoodle
got away with cutting that nail he did :think:
Then don't do it. :D It is not on the challenge sheet. Nor is cutting hardened steel nails listed as a function of the PAD.
I am almost dreading my nail cutting test now... :o
On that last pic GLBM, how solid was the sensation you got from the PAD when tightening the bolt? Haven't tried that yet...The only thing I wasn't too thrilled about is the slight looseness of the tool inside the socket. But, that is not a problem with the tool, it is just an issue with having 1/2 of a 1/4" driver to do it. :)
don’t know how Powernoodle got away with cutting that nail he did :think:
PN shouldn't have done it either. Makes little to no sense. :think:
I don’t know how Powernoodle
got away with cutting that nail he did :think:
I was in no way trying to test the cutters to their limitsDay 11 continued
Here are some close ups of the damage
I don’t know how Powernoodle
got away with cutting that nail he did :think:
I gotta call ya out on the nail thing, W.
PN shouldn't have done it either. Makes little to no sense. :think:
That is not a fair test to be honest. SOG doesn't advertise the cutters as "hard nail cutters".
That will not likely be covered under warranty. It is basically abuse. :facepalm:
Edit: For the record, and I emphasize this, I am not cutting hardened nails with my PAD. I don't do it with any other MT, so why ruin my PAD warranty? I urge anyone to NOT void their warranty by cutting hardened nails.
:cheers:On that last pic GLBM, how solid was the sensation you got from the PAD when tightening the bolt? Haven't tried that yet...The only thing I wasn't too thrilled about is the slight looseness of the tool inside the socket. But, that is not a problem with the tool, it is just an issue with having 1/2 of a 1/4" driver to do it. :)
I believe that you cut that nailI don’t know how Powernoodle
got away with cutting that nail he did :think:
I honestly did, though. I would lie to you about most things :salute: , but not that. I could not take a pic of the actual cutting because it took two hands to bear down on the PAD.
I was in no way trying to test the cutters to their limitsFair enough. I had misread your point earlier. Apologies for that. Now I understand you were curious as to why someone else did the cut w/o issue and you had slight damage cutting a nail. :cheers:
I just wanted to test the cutters with the nail
As Powernoodle cut that large nail
After his test I thought it would
be no problem to cut a 2.5 mm nail
I also tested this with my LM Supertool
And no problems or damage
I will say that it’s only a small bit of damage
As I made close up pics to show the damage
I tested the cutters again with the bit of damage
And they still cut everything I used for the test
Just didn’t try a nail again as I now know it’s limit
I am not saying that the cutters are no good
As they work and cut everything I tried and still work
I am more a bit surprised after
Powernoodle cutting that large nail
That my cutters got that bit of damage
But I totally agree don’t try and cut nails with the hard wire cutters :salute:
Thanks GLBM :cheers:I was in no way trying to test the cutters to their limitsFair enough. I had misread your point earlier. Apologies for that. Now I understand you were curious as to why someone else did the cut w/o issue and you had slight damage cutting a nail. :cheers:
I just wanted to test the cutters with the nail
As Powernoodle cut that large nail
After his test I thought it would
be no problem to cut a 2.5 mm nail
I also tested this with my LM Supertool
And no problems or damage
I will say that it’s only a small bit of damage
As I made close up pics to show the damage
I tested the cutters again with the bit of damage
And they still cut everything I used for the test
Just didn’t try a nail again as I now know it’s limit
I am not saying that the cutters are no good
As they work and cut everything I tried and still work
I am more a bit surprised after
Powernoodle cutting that large nail
That my cutters got that bit of damage
But I totally agree don’t try and cut nails with the hard wire cutters :salute:
I don't know how it will affect the cutters, but if it does affect the performance, there is a solution. A flattened diamond coated needle file works well at fixing the deformation in the cutters. It may at least prevent any "catching" when the jaws close. That is, of course, if an issue with the cutters were to arise. :)
The list is going well got about 10 tasks left :woohoo:I did some research and found a few canned products with small circumferences. Just got to go buy them. :rofl:
Going to test the can opener tomorrow :cheers:
I found some old style cans todayThe list is going well got about 10 tasks left :woohoo:I did some research and found a few canned products with small circumferences. Just got to go buy them. :rofl:
Going to test the can opener tomorrow :cheers:
You guys are well ahead of me........ :-\
But I'll catch up!
:multi:
Thanks GLBM :cheers:
The cutters still work perfectly
I haven’t had any problems with cutting :tu:
Nice test GLBM :cheers:Thank you, W! I look forward to reading your report. :cheers:
I will try that and use the file from the LM Supertool
For comparison and take some pics :tu:
I am really surprised that you got the file to workNice test GLBM :cheers:Thank you, W! I look forward to reading your report. :cheers:
I will try that and use the file from the LM Supertool
For comparison and take some pics :tu:
As far as the file on my particular PAD goes, I have had to admit that I stuck my foot in my mouth in public. It is pretty embarrassing. :rofl:
It is in no way a "good" or even "mediocre" file, but (at least in my case) it did work. :ahhh
Show contentI am not, usually, one to rock the boat. But, curiousoty got the best of me today.
I made a crappy video (three parts, because I suck at youtube) about the file. If you dare to see what happens with the file, please feel free to watch. :)
Part 1:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ls5kkgQ_RKY
Part 2:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=p_muxRa6jXE
Part 3:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=mYvZ5EsPaA4
Apologies for the video being crappy. I am not a youtube person. :ahhh
Edit: I think that qualifies as using the file. One more checked off. And I just realized I hadn't used the medium driver yet! Will do that one tomorrow.
:hatsoff:Show contentI am not, usually, one to rock the boat. But, curiousoty got the best of me today.
I made a crappy video (three parts, because I suck at youtube) about the file. If you dare to see what happens with the file, please feel free to watch. :)
Part 1:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ls5kkgQ_RKY
Part 2:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=p_muxRa6jXE
Part 3:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=mYvZ5EsPaA4
Apologies for the video being crappy. I am not a youtube person. :ahhh
Edit: I think that qualifies as using the file. One more checked off. And I just realized I hadn't used the medium driver yet! Will do that one tomorrow.
Thanks for taking the time to record and upload these. :salute:
I am really surprised that you got the file to workI look forward to reading about your experience with SOG-filing aluminum. Primarily, because it clogs(for my lack of a better term) even the best files in short order. :ahhh
And I want to test the file on aluminium
As you tested mild steel and wood with ok results
I will see if I can do the test tomorrow :tu:
Great challenge and pics guys And good idea with the checklistThank you, RF52!
Nice one DT :tu:
Do you think that the Supertool 300 file
Would be able to fit the PAD
Is there enough metal on the pivot end
To copy the PAD file pivot profile :think:
Thank you for checking on it as well, DT!
The PA/PAD file is a perplexing phenomenon. It seems that we really jumped into presumption, if it turns out, that most (if not all) of our PADs have a barely mediocre file (and not useless ). We must go back and reevaluate some assertions I think. :think:
But, all in all, I cannot say I am upset. This makes the file usable. :)
Now, I start to ponder, is it better or worse than a file on a "seriously" low quality MT? Say, an Ozark Trail $3.88 MT, perhaps?
I shall endeavor to test this possibility before the challenge is completed. :cheers:
Thanks DT :cheers:Nice one DT :tu:
Do you think that the Supertool 300 file
Would be able to fit the PAD
Is there enough metal on the pivot end
To copy the PAD file pivot profile :think:
I'm thinking there might be... there remains the fact that the file proper would have to be made lower-profile as well, and I don't know how the steel's tempering would react to a cutting disc being put to it...
Good job on the cans as well - looks like a battlefield. Methinks a grinding job cannot possibly make it worse :rofl:
why put one on the PAD if it doesn’t work
That is some great customer serviceExcellent customer service :D
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That is awesome, W! I do like the regular PowerAcces. :)
Nice pics guys!
DT,
I would have cheated by marking a first set of measurements at a point and measuring again from there. It wouldn't be very accurate. But, accuracy is work and, I am a bit lazy. :P
Hats off to your being accurate. :hatsoff:
Thanks GLBM :cheers:
I like the SOG PA a lot
Even the file looks better :D :like: :like:
As far as I can see it’s exactly the sameThanks GLBM :cheers:
I like the SOG PA a lot
Even the file looks better :D :like: :like:
That file... could you transpose it to the PAD?
The early PA had a mediocre file, but maybe they have remedied that.Thanks GLBM :cheers:
W,
I forgot to mention! Congrats on getting the PA! That was excellent CS on SOG's part. :)
G-man, if you are satisfied with the file, I think that is great.Nix,
Me? Not so much. In my book, a clear SOG fail. And SOG should be embarrassed. I'll keep testing it, but, based on this one feeble attempt at a tool, I won't be buying another SOG product. Ever. Any company that would sell a tool of this poor quality hasn't earned my respect and won't earn my business again. I have no use for a company that sells junk.
I guess it isn't really relevant anyway, since the initial assumption was that the file was useless. Contrary evidence be damned. :viking:
My life outlook requires a certain flexibility. I am always willing to consider a differing opinion or contrary facts. And sometimes alter mine in light of something more sensible. I never expect others to feel the same way though. Everyone has developed a system for navigating life and who am I to ultimately say who's right or wrong in that sense? I generally approach things asking myself "could I be wrong or misinformed?". I guess it could be attributed to a borderline unhealthy amount of empathy. Like other's world views serve them well, the one I use to navigate life has served me well.
G-man, I like your forgiving attitude. That may prove to be the wiser stance over the long run. :tu:
My initial assumption was that the file would be effective. But then I handled it and tested it. As I said, I'll continue to evaluate the file, but, as of right now, it is my perception that SOG has been willing to sell a poorly designed and manufactured tool to the public. Without any concerns about quality control. In my eyes, this discredits the company. Why buy SOG, when I can buy a good multitool from Victorinox or Leatherman?I see your point and tend to agree. However, I try to keep in mind that even LM and Vic have sold tools that shouldn't have passed their strenuous QC.
Sure, I might complain, and SOG might send me a replacement. But even that is not satisfactory; they should get it right the first time. A decent QC program should have spotted my ridiculous file at the factory. What about the buyer who doesn't know better? That's the scam that SOG appears to be running. Rip off most customers with a cheap tool at the cost of a few replacements for those who complain. They'll call that a 'business model'; I call that a scam. Failure to provide a decent---and I emphasize 'decent'--file in a multitool that claims to have a file blade is completely unacceptable. Call this an absolute if you will, but I see this as a minimum standard. LM doesn't have the fit and finish of Victorinox, but it's still a great tool. I'm willing to accept compromise as long as a minimum standard is met. With the file (and the can opener) SOG doesn't. I won't buy another SOG product because I don't need to. I can start with a company that believes in quality right from the start. That's not so much an 'absolute' as it is a pragmatic approach to spending my limited tool budget. "Fool me once, shame on you......"I understand your position here and there isn't much of an argument that could contradict the position.
You mention 'evidence to the contrary'. I haven't seen it. I have tested my file on wood and metal and it is next to useless. I'm delighted that your file seems to work better. Are you now saying that the PAD file is as good as a Victorinox file or Leatherman file? I'd find that interesting, but even still, not convincing. I can tell you mine is a piece of junk, although it did seem to work fairly well as a ferro-rod striker. And I did use it to clean out a bird feeder. But those aren't tasks that one needs a file for.No, I said in my previous post and the video that I rated the PAD file (the one on my PAD) as a bit less than 50% as effective as the LM Rebar file.
Add the lame can opener to the file issues, and SOG's poor design and impoverished manufacturing standards leave me just plain cold. Like I said before, after owning this 'tool' for just a month or so, I'd never buy a SOG product again. I no longer trust SOG. Period.Not many MTs have a decent can opener. I would prefer a P38 over any MT can opener. It isn't about how good or bad an MT can opener is. It is about which one sucks more. SOG just happens to hang at the end of that metaphorical rope.
I don't think this tool will prove to be very durable either. I note here that Wspeed's nail cutting test--an extreme test, to be sure--resulted in a damaged tool. I'm seeing quality issues throughout this tool's manufacture. Reference also the fact that Wspeed had to return his first PAD for replacement before even starting the challenge. Out of the 5 MTo'ers in this thread who have owned PADs, 1 required replacement and 1 was returned for refund. That's a 40% failure rate. Aside from MLB batters, there are few careers where that is considered to be good.Abuse tests do not count in real life, because cutting hardened nails is not something any company says the tool is deigned for and isn't likely to be done in real life. I know Tim L. stood on a PST to cut a nail, but that is just ridiculous in my opinion and seems desperate to instill a false sense of grandeur about a tool to people who don't know any better.
I like that you appear to be optimistic and predisposed to give SOG the benefit of the doubt with respect to the PAD. At least in part, you are keeping me motivated for this challenge. And if you continue to be satisfied with the PAD and the file's performance, I hope you will continue to advocate for it. It is wonderfully useful for us to disagree about this and offer potential users different perspectives. I seriously doubt SOG will read this thread or care about our perceptions, but you and I may provide some useful data points for other MTo members. So, let's keep evaluating and comparing observations. :tu:First here: I must agree with your assertion that SOG will not see this or give it much thought. That is sad, but true. I will reserve final positioning on it though, because we could be wrong. SOG did listen about the PowerDuo and PowerGrab.
Tomorrow, I will try to sharpen an axe with the PAD's file and with a standard file. This is a simple task that any decent file must be able to do.Good luck, Nix! I think, knowing you haven't been able to file tin, you won't have much luck though. Haha.
Any predictions on how successful I'll be? Maybe I will have to eat my words........I kind of hope so, but I won't lose any sleep over it.
Keep up the fight, G-man! :tu: :salute:Same to you!
If my current PAD becomes lost, stolen, or damaged, I do not think I would replace it with another PAD. If you guys lost your PAD, would you replace it? If, yes, why?Yes, but for a different reason altogether. I need one for my SOG collection. :D
Let's also, at this point in the challenge, ask a similar question: If you could own just one multitool, which multitool would you choose?LM Surge with all of the goodies. For my line of work and prefrences, there isn't anything remotely as good as the LM surge.
As a tool itself it might not be at all bad :multi: and some things are innovative and admirable, but the fact that is the latest SOG and that they are very aware of the previous issues makes these mistakes harder to forgive now :twak:
I am looking at SOG's future in a similar fashion to what happened to Gerber, Remington, or Smith and Wesson with their tools and knives: :ahhh
20 years ago I'd have bought 7 out of 10 of their products, recommended the other 2, and ignore 1 of them. :tu:
Nowadays it's the opposite, I'd buy 1 out of 10 of their catalog, recommend just 2 and ignore the other 7.
Doesn't a Rebar have tool clumping? All three of mine do. Two tools (saw and file ) are awful to open as well on my Rebars. I usually chew up a fingernail if I'm not careful. The PAD does have clumping, but I find that necessary to get to some of the implements (such as the 1/4" drive and LG. Flat driver). I have used the nail ramps near the tangs, but the tools clump that way anyhow, so I skip the metaphorical middle-man and just grab at the easier tools (blades on one side and file/saw on the other) and select the one I need. The PAD spring system is quite smooth and makes it easy for me. Was the PAD supposed to be advertised as non-clumping? :think:
An absolute thinker goes to a restaurant and gets a bad meal. They just leave and never go back again. That is called passing the buck. The next people who go there will have wasted their money in a vicious cycle of buck passing. Only when everyone who would have ever eaten there or heard about it had decided not to go back will the restaurant know something is terribly wrong. The responsible approach would entail, the first person who got a bad meal, going to the manager and telling them why it was bad.. That allows the restaurant to possibly fix the original problem, lessening the likelyhood others will waste their time/money there.
In short, saying "I'll never again" is kind of an easy way out and to pass the Buck.
Moving on, I think we should not discount the company as a whole, but we should discount the particular tool (or the qc issues with it).
When a new MT enthusiast reads an absolute statement about a brand as a whole, then they may not understand that is was one file on one tool and a can opener that made you disown the company as a whole.
With that logic, I should never buy another Vic product, because of W's bent corkscrew or my mag lenses popping out.
We both know it isn't that simple.
Your comments about never trying SOG again will forever be in the search results for SOG tools. People who don't know better may never try a good SOG product, because of your one bad file and our lame can openers.
This is just again my opinion to address you all in general, I also think that SOG believed in putting out the best quality and top notch product until the 2000s, when they saw Gerber's and Kershaws new success with Chinese imports and outsourced products, ::)
they thought it was a clever move to drive production overseas and lower the price and QC standards to make a quick buck, reaching a wider audience (as opposed to their more serious buyers and aficionados from before) and "Wall-Marteing" their products like Gerber et al.
Doesn't a Rebar have tool clumping? All three of mine do. Two tools (saw and file ) are awful to open as well on my Rebars. I usually chew up a fingernail if I'm not careful. The PAD does have clumping, but I find that necessary to get to some of the implements (such as the 1/4" drive and LG. Flat driver). I have used the nail ramps near the tangs, but the tools clump that way anyhow, so I skip the metaphorical middle-man and just grab at the easier tools (blades on one side and file/saw on the other) and select the one I need. The PAD spring system is quite smooth and makes it easy for me. Was the PAD supposed to be advertised as non-clumping? :think:
Yes, indeed. One of my criticisms of the Rebar to be sure. Once I handled the Vic Spirit I was spoiled. ;) It doesn't matter that the PAD wasn't advertised as being a tool-clumper or not a tool-clumper. It's an annoying trait. It's annoying in the Rebar, and it's annoying in the PAD. Note that this isn't much of an issue with true OHT's like the Wave or Charge or Surge.Cannot argue with that. So true!
An absolute thinker goes to a restaurant and gets a bad meal. They just leave and never go back again. That is called passing the buck. The next people who go there will have wasted their money in a vicious cycle of buck passing. Only when everyone who would have ever eaten there or heard about it had decided not to go back will the restaurant know something is terribly wrong. The responsible approach would entail, the first person who got a bad meal, going to the manager and telling them why it was bad.. That allows the restaurant to possibly fix the original problem, lessening the likelyhood others will waste their time/money there.
In short, saying "I'll never again" is kind of an easy way out and to pass the Buck.
From my perspective, the opposing absolute to “never coming back” would be to “keep coming back, regardless of the terrible meals.” I feel like saying something to the manager and giving them a chance to make it right is more in the gray area of the metaphor. The metaphor, in hindsight, could be debated until the end of time. But, in a more focused sense, the metaphor was my attempt to simplify my stance and the discussion. I am doing all of this by typing on my phone. A laborious undertaking to say the least.
This would seem to be it's own form of absolute thinking. If I eat at a restaurant and don't like the meal I may offer some feedback ("It was a bit bland.") or I may say nothing and just not return. I may also pass on my negative impressions to other potential dinners. There are many factors in how I approach the situation. I don't think this is 'passing the buck'. There may be some people who do like the food or service. But, I know that if enough people do not return to a restaurant, and word gets out that the food is bad, or a restaurant is not recommended, that that restaurant will fail. Restaurants fail everyday. If, in any business, you develop a bad reputation, you will have a hard time succeeding. Many companies elicit feedback for that very reason. Has SOG sent you a questionnaire asking for feedback? Me neither.
As far as SOG goes, why would I risk buying another bad product when I have had a good experience with 7 Leatherman's and 1 Victorinox? (Gerber, not so much, but right now, if I had to chose between Gerber and SOG, I'd probably go with Gerber.) Why would I do SOG the favor of spending my time providing feedback directly to them? What? They sell me a defective tool and then expect me to do the QC and testing they should have done in the first place? I guess that's one way to save money--use your market for R&D and testing. That will only work though if the market sticks around. The burden is on SOG to provide a quality tool that builds customer loyalty, not on the consumer to help SOG do their work properly. And SOG can always visit this excellent forum and gather up customer impressions if they are actually interested.
Do I have an obligation to the public to provide feedback to SOG and not 'pass the buck'? That's an interesting question. Perhaps it would be more responsible of me to do as you say. However, I am providing frank and honest opinions here. These are only my opinions and do not constitute an absolute truth, but are open to anyone who cares to search for them. Do YouTube reviewers have an obligation to provide feedback to the manufacturers of the products they review? I don't know.
For me, some of this comes down to my perception of the company's attitude. I have avoided buying a Vic SAK with a mag lens because I do have reservations about their optics and the durability of the magnifier. But, my perception is that Vic does strive to make a quality tool. Their commitment to quality comes through with almost every knife and tool. SOG on the other hand has a reputation for mutlitools of a lower quality. They don't seem to be concerned with refining or improving the quality of their tools or their reputation. That this PAD is the newest in their line only reinforces that perception and is a real missed opportunity in my opinion. My impression, and it's just my impression, is that SOG is focused on marketing a cheaply made tool with gimmicks like compound leverage. They developed an interesting idea and are hoping that the novelty will carry their sales. I don't think the quality will. Since my perception is that the company doesn't actually care about their products, I find it hard to care about the company and I'm not inclined to provide feedback to them. With Victorinox, my perception is the opposite, I have taken the trouble to provide feedback and make recommendations.
I don't think it's fair of you to fault me for turning my back on SOG at this point. This is my reaction and I own it. I'm not saying it is right or that it makes me a good person (you sure seem like a good and kind person and an excellent role model.). Perhaps I'm letting my disappointment get the better of me, but at this point, I just don't care about SOG enough to be motivated to be better than I am.
Moving on, I think we should not discount the company as a whole, but we should discount the particular tool (or the qc issues with it).
:cheers:
Fair enough. I did have a SOG Seal Pup knife that I liked. It was a good knife. At the same time, I have to question the commitment of SOG to quality if they let a tool like this carry on their previous mistakes. "One bad apple......" There are many good knife makers out there, I don't need to choose a SOG. And now, I probably won't.
When a new MT enthusiast reads an absolute statement about a brand as a whole, then they may not understand that is was one file on one tool and a can opener that made you disown the company as a whole.
With that logic, I should never buy another Vic product, because of W's bent corkscrew or my mag lenses popping out.
We both know it isn't that simple.
Your comments about never trying SOG again will forever be in the search results for SOG tools. People who don't know better may never try a good SOG product, because of your one bad file and our lame can openers.
Well, we are seeing a trend here, not just one odd corkscrew that made it passed a usually rigorous QC process. And my list of concerns is longer than yours:I am going to transition here to quoting and replying to Nix in a way that helps me address each concern.
1. The sheath is poorly designed. It gives the impression that no one ever bother to put the knife in the sheath to see if it worked. While the sheath technically MOLLE compatible, it actually provides only one point of attachment and that is a bit sketchy. I think Wspeed has noted that his velcro is wearing out. Mine hasn't been used as much but the velcro feels a bit weak already.I have been using the sheath as outlined by SOG, on my belt with bits, for over two weeks. The velcro is shoddy at best. However, with that being said, Leatherman and Victorinox sell sheaths with their brands on them that are poorly made(in different ways) as well.
2. The "Chisel" isn't a chisel. It isn't sharp. It may prove to be an adequate large flat driver or pry tool. I haven't tried it yet.It works great as a screwdriver, as you have since found out, but why they called it a “chisel” is a mystery to me. It is a glaring mistake that cannot be discounted. It works great as a driver, and they should label it is a screwdriver. Chisels on multitools are not really useful, well, to me anyway.
3. The file is just crap. Cutting aluminum is nice, but that is not a practical use for me for a file.Again, and I cannot stress this enough, it seems you have a truly faulty file and should contact SOG about a replacement file before condemning the file altogether. That is my position on the matter. If you want to discredit a tool for its’ file, then please do so with a file example that is representative of what the rest of us have demonstrated.
4. The can opener works, but is terrible. Poorly designed and poorly made.I haven’t used mine yet, but I can extrapolate the outcome of my PAD can opener to be of a similar nature to others who have demonstrated it.
5. The serrations on the serrated blade will be problematic to sharpen. The blade has worked fine, so far, but I foresee difficulty in resharpening it.I take for granted that I can sharpen those kinds of serrations. So, I will grant you that most people could not easily touch up that blade.
6. The medium driver on my cap lifter is rounded off. I have successfully used it, but I think this will be prone to slipping with heavier use. A nice squared off drive is just safer and more effective.The driver on the can opener is(from the photos and looking at both of my Accesses) is run-of-the-mill. It is, however, better than the rounded/over-polished driver on the SAK can openers I have. I am not sure this should be a complaint to be honest. Seems beyond nit-picky.
7. The saw works, but it is short for the space in the handle. It looks to me like they could have given me a saw that is 5-6mm longer, and therefore more effectiveI have to agree wholeheartedly on this. But, I need to say, SOG has a strange opposition to making saws a bit longer. Since the PowerPlier(same saw as the paratool), the SOG saws have been too short(except the powerplay file. It is longer). This criticism isn’t unique to the PAD is all I want people to know. If they buy a PowerLock(I recommend the PL to anyone), they need to know that the saw is too short in it as well.
8. The Jeweler's driver on mine had a poor grind with a burr. I used a diamond stone to clean it up and I think it's a bit better now.Seems like you have some kind of pre-production dud of a PAD. The “jeweler drivers” on my PA, PAD, PowerPint, and PowerPlay have been consistently excellent. Non of them needed to be cleaned up.
9. The springs that activate the locks appear to be flimsy and fragile (I thought I read that someone had their lock springs break already. I might be wrong.). This is a chief point of concern for me, and one of the reasons I question the tool's durability.Wspeed had a spring failure. SOG took it in and had it examined(promptly sent a new PAD to him and then sent a PA to him for covering the customs fees). The judgment was a failed spring-portion heat treat. Nobody else here has experienced this issue yet, that I know of.
Some of these observations are either unfounded or are of a nit-picking nature. But they start to add up to a very negative impression overall, especially when we have a record of a few MTo'ers returning their PADs within a few days of receiving them.As far as I know, only powernoodle returned his for a refund. He only had his around a week I think.
This has been a great discussion, and, even if you haven't persuaded me to be nicer to SOG, I do like the way you think and your fundamental consideration. I promise to stay open minded as we continue the challenge. :tu: [/color]
OK, I've been a bit negative about the SOG PAD recently, so I thought I'd share one feature that I think is very cool:Yeah man. The SOG flick is one of the most enjoyable MT plier deployments....ever. :cheers:
The PAD can be 'flicked' open with a sharp snap of the wrist.
The momentum of one handle swings the pliers open, add a little rotation, and the pliers are in hand, ready to use. Nice! Especially handy when one is fishing. Hey, that reminds me, I need to go fishing.......
Seems odd to have a fuse in the kettle plug. Probably a good idea, but I've never seen that before. Do all English appliances have fused plugs?Yes all UK plugs have a fuse :tu:
Good work with the chisel, sorry you need a new kettle! :tu:
Again, and I cannot stress this enough, it seems you have a truly faulty file and should contact SOG about a replacement file before condemning the file altogether. That is my position on the matter. If you want to discredit a tool for its’ file, then please do so with a file example that is representative of what the rest of us have demonstrated.
Would you do a review on a SAK with a bent corkscrew and write about the bent corkscrew as a common fault?
Day 10:
Now, this took a long time to achieve and I don't think I could actually get good edge with this tool, but it did do something, which is more than I expected. Perhaps with enough time it might serve the purpose.
OK, I've been a bit negative about the SOG PAD recently, so I thought I'd share one feature that I think is very cool:
The PAD can be 'flicked' open with a sharp snap of the wrist.
The momentum of one handle swings the pliers open, add a little rotation, and the pliers are in hand, ready to use. Nice! Especially handy when one is fishing. Hey, that reminds me, I need to go fishing.......
Looks delicious! It's a bit hot down here in AL for most soups, but mushroom soup is always enjoyable. :)
On a side note: I almost fell oit of my chair when I read where you mentioned shii-take(hyphenated to avoid curse filter) mushrooms. Smurfake. :rofl:
Same with Ireland, it allows for building houses with cheaper ring circuits instead of radial circuits. :think:Seems odd to have a fuse in the kettle plug. Probably a good idea, but I've never seen that before. Do all English appliances have fused plugs?Yes all UK plugs have a fuse :tu:
Good work with the chisel, sorry you need a new kettle! :tu:
I think it’s a great idea :cheers:
OK, I've been a bit negative about the SOG PAD recently, so I thought I'd share one feature that I think is very cool:FYI, it should be possible to loosen and tighten the pivot screws to adjust the degree of flicky-ness. :cheers:
The PAD can be 'flicked' open with a sharp snap of the wrist.
The momentum of one handle swings the pliers open, add a little rotation, and the pliers are in hand, ready to use. Nice! Especially handy when one is fishing. Hey, that reminds me, I need to go fishing.......
Great use, Wspeed.I am glad my bike was in the workshop
I had a bike's battery die on me whilst I was on a road trip. I was in a remote area and it was quite a bit of work to get back to a town where I could order a new battery. I was sure glad to havve a few tools with me that day!
Once a bike's battery gives up the will to spark, there is no bringing it back. :(
It looks as if we are padding the results here. :D:rofl: :rofl: :like:
O.k. I'll go back to my padded cell now. :waving:
My results show that the cutters on my PAD are not quite as sloppy as yours, but mine did worse than I had anticipated. :facepalm:So if I understand the chart, the PAD got more passes than the Swisstool and Wave, and the Surge was the only one to get three passes. :think:
Most of my other test subjects didn't do well either, so I can't quite condemn my PAD cutters just yet. (See chart attached) I will be checking the cutters periodically to see if they get any worse. The PowerLock I tested is my oldest and most used SOGs with lots of pliers-slop and the PAD didn't do much better. You can look at the images to see how well each cut was. Each wire was cut once with no twisting or pulling. I used the mid section of each tool's cutters and allowed two cuts for small cutters(one cut per side) on the 12g. wire.
(https://i.imgur.com/5GcbV5C.jpg)
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I have individual images of each tool/wire results if anyone needs them.
:tu: In my book that qualifies as an imaginative use, Wspeed :cheers:
Good point D_T I do think anything:tu: In my book that qualifies as an imaginative use, Wspeed :cheers:
+1
just beware that files (if we can call this one a file ::) :D) are usually hardened so should not be used to pry, twist or torque as they easily snapped :salute: but I see that you used it putting the force closer to the pivot thus reducing the leverage multiplication effect :tu:
So if I understand the chart, the PAD got more passes than the Swisstool and Wave, and the Surge was the only one to get three passes. :think:Indeed. It seems strange, but remember, the tests involved no twisting or pulling while using the cutters on stranded wire & tiny solid core wire(these were intentionally chosen, because they are notoriously aggravating to cut) Every tool tested can cut most stuff when "manipulated" a bit.
Day 18I think you win most creative file use. :rofl:
Today I was checking the fluid levels in the engine bay
And needed something to open the power steering cap
Normally I use a large screwdriver but as I got the PAD
I found the file to be just right for removing the cap
Can we agree that Gerbers replaceable cutters suck? :)Hell yes. They have to be the worst cutter system ever designed. Everything from my early replaceable-cutter MP600 to my Center-Drive look like piranhas when I try to cut wire with them.
Totally agree GLBM it should not happen :tu:Excellent idea. :cheers:
You could always open some
cans or bottles on your lazy day :D :tu:
I think the can openers on the Vic SAKs are light years better than the PAD's can opener.+1 i like the SAK can openers :cheers:
But, as you noted, the PAD can get the job done.
And I've had more practice with the Vic openers.
Very nice, Nix! Maybe, when you inevitably have to send it in for warranty work, SOG can reverse engineer your reprofiled can opener and use the ancient technology to create a more effective one. :like:
Hello,
We are sending you a replacement clip for your Power Access multi tool.
Thank you,
Amanda
Looks good Nix :cheers:
Would love to see some pics of a can you used it on :popcorn:
So, SOG got back to me.......Speechless :rofl: :rofl: :facepalm:QuoteHello,
We are sending you a replacement clip for your Power Access multi tool.
Thank you,
Amanda
Why do I get the impression we've had a failure to communicate?
Nice one Nix :cheers:Looks good Nix :cheers:
Would love to see some pics of a can you used it on :popcorn:
Well, since you ride motorcycles and all, W, :tu:
The key thing here is that the Can Opener is now cutting the lid, not punching through it. As a result, the cutting is much smoother. Still, little 'bites' are required, but way less effort and the lid isn't getting smashed into the inside of the can.
How many PA clips got broken where the automatic response is to send a new clip?
I am seriously LOL'ing here.
If you send a correction email in reply, and they still send you a clip, I am going to die laughing(sorry. I can't help it). :rofl:
Hello Jack,
Unfortunately my answer to the problem would be to send in your Power Access Deluxe multi tool and we will trade it out with one of our Powerlock multi tools *which would be same quality as the Paratool you’ve said you’ve owned for years. Sending a new file I don’t think is the answer because I am afraid it would be of the same quality as the current one you have now. I would be glad to change the tool out for one of our higher quality tools. Let me know if this is something you would like to do?
Thank you,
Amanda
Could be, but SOG doesn't appear to have the same level of confidence as you do.To me their email says we know that the PAD has bad tools
Or....it's just easier to send me a different tool. :think:
I would look at what tools You use more on a MT.
Has the Powerlock got the tools you need?
:tu::cheers: :like: :like:
Looks refreshing.
Day 20
Day 20 already :woohoo:
So for today I opened a bottle of WKD for the missus
To celebrate only 10 days of the challenge left :cheers:
Again no problems using the bottle opener :tu:
If you look at the bottle it says
in small WKD which is the company
And NKD is one of the
different drinks that they do :rofl: :pok:
Great test on the blade, W!The blades are thin but seem to be nice quality :cheers:
I have gotten more confident in the blade design since the beginning, where I had assumed, it looked like the blades were a bit whispy. They seem to be hardened properly. :)
Great testing, W. :tu:The blades are working properly and still sharp :cheers: :like:
I, too, found that the blades seemed to work well.
My replacement Powerlock got delivered today.Awesome! They sent you the slightly slimmer version (newest). I like it a bit more than the older models for general carry. Enjoy it. One of the few tools made that is almost the same as when it first came out.
(https://i.imgur.com/kQiUpIn.jpg)
Amanda at SOG was great to work with and I'm pleased with the swap. :clap:
The Powerlock is certainly a bit quirky and eccentric, but the quality is definitely a couple of steps above my, now-returned, PAD. Maybe I just got a lemon. I'll save specific thoughts for a Powerlock challenge.....starting tomorrow. :tu:
In the meantime, I'll follow along with you guys as you finish up this Access to Power challenge! :salute:
Nice work GLBM :tu: :like: :like:Thank you, W! :cheers:
Nice use, W!Thanks Nix :cheers: :like: :like:
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Day 231 vote for best challenge pic. :like:
"Hullo, Master Human. Pray forgive me... but I could fain fail to notice that thou art in possession of a fine tool. Wouldst thou find it in thy heart to divulge whither thou hast acquired it?"
Day 231 vote for best challenge pic. :like:
"Hullo, Master Human. Pray forgive me... but I could fain fail to notice that thou art in possession of a fine tool. Wouldst thou find it in thy heart to divulge whither thou hast acquired it?"
PAD gets a day off, as I am attending a wedding this evening. :)
Day 23: Just sitting on the car seat after a 200 mile drive.
Day 231 vote for best challenge pic. :like:
"Hullo, Master Human. Pray forgive me... but I could fain fail to notice that thou art in possession of a fine tool. Wouldst thou find it in thy heart to divulge whither thou hast acquired it?"
+3 :rofl: :rofl: :like:Day 231 vote for best challenge pic. :like:
"Hullo, Master Human. Pray forgive me... but I could fain fail to notice that thou art in possession of a fine tool. Wouldst thou find it in thy heart to divulge whither thou hast acquired it?"
+2! :rofl:
+4! :D+3 :rofl: :rofl: :like:Day 231 vote for best challenge pic. :like:
"Hullo, Master Human. Pray forgive me... but I could fain fail to notice that thou art in possession of a fine tool. Wouldst thou find it in thy heart to divulge whither thou hast acquired it?"
+2! :rofl:
Nice work, W! Looks like a little practice has made opening that can a bit easier. :)It was easier to use the can opener :D
W, couldn't resist giving them another tap or two. :rofl: But time and use will tell me more..... :tu:Excellent look forward to see how
My first real contribution. ::)Excellent testing Pabs :cheers:
Filed some soft plastic... I compared the PA file with the Victorinox SAK file, the older version before the current stainless steel version. The SAK that this file is on is a used 90’s/early 00’s swisschamp (I think the file was fairly unused prior to acquisition)
When sawing through the soft (but thick-ish) plastic, the SAK file was about twice as fast, but at the expense of needing a good technique and hold on the piece to prevent “catching” if you know what I mean. Kinda like sawing wood.
When filing the plastic on the side of the files to smoothen the edges... I thought that the PA file felt just as aggressive on the crosshatch side as the SAK on the aggressive side. :think: But the SAK file has more area and no giant hole in it, so... :D
Needs testing on different materials.
At this point, I am formally withdrawing from the PAD challenge. I'm sorry to say that I do feel a sense of relief with this decision.
Nice use.Yes the standard plate is just to big :ahhh
So......after the inspection the smaller plate gets put back on? :think:
And the pandas don't mind the non-MOT plate while you are on the road (presumably not speeding :whistle:)?Most traffic police are ok
Day 27
Comparison shot of the PAD with a contestant in the next announced challenge, my Rebar VX.
What is a Rebar VX...? :ahhh
(And, do I need one?)
...honesty demands I point out that the VX does not have a cap lifter, as I just rediscovered :facepalm::cheers:
Nice one GLBM :like: :like: :tu:Thank you, W!
...honesty demands I point out that the VX does not have a cap lifter, as I just rediscovered :facepalm::cheers:
You are soooooo going to fail the next challenge..... :rofl: :cheers:
No teeth! :twak:...honesty demands I point out that the VX does not have a cap lifter, as I just rediscovered :facepalm::cheers:
You are soooooo going to fail the next challenge..... :rofl: :cheers:
Ponch once told me of a trick I might try... :cheers:
You haven’t got long left GLBM :cheers: :drink: :like:Nice one GLBM :like: :like: :tu:Thank you, W!
:ahhh :ahhh :ahhh
I forgot. I need to get some capped bottles to open. :ahhh
To keep my sanity, I have convinced myself, it is a gravity flap sheath. :rofl::rofl:
The store didn't have the capped sodas I went for, but I did put another hole in an old work belt (from my heavier days) with the awl. It worked fairly well.
To keep my sanity, I have convinced myself, it is a gravity flap sheath. :rofl::rofl:
The moderately good news is, it seems that the velcro was added to the sheath in the last assembly step. People with a sewing machine and a supply of good quality sew-on velcro should have little trouble implementing an improved closure. As to the last, anyone know of a reliable online source? Because the rest of the sheath suits my needs...
The store didn't have the capped sodas I went for, but I did put another hole in an old work belt (from my heavier days) with the awl. It worked fairly well.
that belt looks strong, it will surely hold a lot of load :like: :cheers:
A job well done GLBM :like: :like: :tu:
Agreed. :tu::cheers: :like: :like:
Wspeed, Nix, have you tried putting both the tool and the bit holder in the main pocket? Tight fit, but no rattle.I have but didn’t like it :facepalm:
Great job with the challenge guys And congrats on the badgesThanks RF52 :cheers:
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Day 30
Challenge completion post
This marks my completion of the 30-day Power Access Deluxe challenge. I'll be rating the various tools at points/10 below.
As visible from the narrower of the pics below, the PE blade still cuts as well as it did when new - a small blade-lengthwise movement on the edge of the sheet was enough to start the cut, with occasional like movements being necessary to proceed, without actual sawing being needed; no tears.
Day 30
Done the cutting test with the PE blade
And the same paper as on day 1
I am glad that you enjoyed the challenge TP :cheers:
So now that the challenge is finished
Would you buy a SOG PAD :think:
Excellent job D_T :cheers: :like: :like:Probably not as long as it sells
I told Chris@SOG about the file
All I got back was: I will pass it on to the engineers ??? :think: :ahhh
I just don’t think that they are
interested or care what we think :rant:
Excellent job D_T :cheers: :like: :like:I am going to play devil's advocate for a second. Sorry W.
I told Chris@SOG about the file
All I got back was: I will pass it on to the engineers ??? :think: :ahhh
I just don’t think that they are
interested or care what we think :rant:
The Problem I have is that I told C/S the same file storyExcellent job D_T :cheers: :like: :like:I am going to play devil's advocate for a second. Sorry W.
I told Chris@SOG about the file
All I got back was: I will pass it on to the engineers ??? :think: :ahhh
I just don’t think that they are
interested or care what we think :rant:
What else can Chris do, beside pass it on to engineering? Chris is customer service from what I can tell(if this assertion is false, I apologize). He can't really do anything to change the tool's design and build himself. :think:
If I'm incorrect, please let me know. :ahhh