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Title: March Break Project (Model Train Build)
Post by: Chako on March 14, 2011, 03:24:36 PM: I have a week to see how far I can get into building my N scale train diorama. I bought a Woodland Scenics "Scenic Ridge" kit and am now starting the build because I now have some free time. :D

So far, I have only managed to glue together the base boards and the subterranean track underlay. The tracks will fit over these foam pieces...allowing me to make valleys lower then the tracks. This whole thing will be 3'x6'. My next task will be to fit foam bridges over the underpass, and then to start plaster cloth covering the inside of the tunnel. I am going to be taking my time on this project which has been in the planning stage for well over 4 months now. That is about how long it has taken me to accrue the buildings, vehicles, and people.

Time for a few photographs.

Here you can see part of the underlay glued and ready to go. The tacks and track bed will go on top of the underlay.
(http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r207/Chako_photo/Leather%20Projects/IMG_0762small-1.jpg)

Here are my villagers. I have around 100 of them now...and they are awfully small at N scale.
(http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r207/Chako_photo/Leather%20Projects/IMG_0767small-1.jpg)

I had to have a place to store these items, so I have a temporary table set up in the living room. The houses are mostly N scale Tomytec buildings with a few extras added here and there. This layout won't match the final layout.
(http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r207/Chako_photo/Leather%20Projects/IMG_0766small-1.jpg)

I think I will update this thread as I go. :salute:
Title: Re: March Break Project (Model Train Build)
Post by: Reinier on March 14, 2011, 05:10:28 PM: Ooooohhh nice!!! :drool:

This is going to be a very cool project.
Title: Re: March Break Project (Model Train Build)
Post by: Chako on March 14, 2011, 05:41:37 PM: I hope so. Can't wait to get into the real fun stuff which is the finishing of the landscape...but I am so far away from that right now.

Incidentally, even though I thought I had everything, I am off later today to get a list of supporting items I will need to continue with some of the later steps.

I am also waiting on two special items that will finish off the build once I get there. I won a DCC sound enabled Diesel engine off of eBay late last week, and I bought a Bachmann Dynamis DCC controller that will enable all the sound features of the train engine.
Title: Re: March Break Project (Model Train Build)
Post by: Whoey on March 14, 2011, 07:02:44 PM: so jealous of march break... we haven't got a break until easter... :ahhh
Title: Re: March Break Project (Model Train Build)
Post by: yud on March 14, 2011, 09:28:57 PM: looks good
Title: Re: March Break Project (Model Train Build)
Post by: ryan1835 on March 14, 2011, 10:44:24 PM: what's the best bit of this hobby for you chako?
Title: Re: March Break Project (Model Train Build)
Post by: Chako on March 14, 2011, 11:35:43 PM: This is just one of many hobbies I am involved in. However, it has been a very long ambition of mine to make a diorama for a train set. When I was a kid, I had a train set that my father bought me. I was too young, and I strongly suspect he bought it for himself more than anything else. He mounted it on a piece of plywood and that was that. This bucket list project combines my long abiding fascination with miniatures, model making, and trains into one piece.

So what is the best bit of this hobby for me? Just having fun would have to be it. :D
Title: Re: March Break Project (Model Train Build)
Post by: Chako on March 15, 2011, 07:10:05 PM: I just finished plaster cloth coating the inside of the mountain, and am waiting for that to dry. The next step is to glue the track bed, track, and ballast down. Guess these areas will be very hard to reach later on. :D

I took these about half way done.
(http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r207/Chako_photo/Leather%20Projects/IMG_0768small.jpg)

(http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r207/Chako_photo/Leather%20Projects/IMG_0769small-1.jpg)
Title: Re: March Break Project (Model Train Build)
Post by: J-sews on March 16, 2011, 01:22:49 AM: What exactly do you mean by "diorama?" Are you thinking about a fixed or portable operating display of some sort? :)

When I was younger, I always wanted to do a glass-topped coffee table layout. :dd:
Title: Re: March Break Project (Model Train Build)
Post by: Chako on March 16, 2011, 02:23:02 AM: Fixed upstairs on a portable folding table which now resides temporarily in my living room. I reckon it will be light and easily transported once done...but at 3'x6', not exactly portable.
Title: Re: March Break Project (Model Train Build)
Post by: Mercury on March 16, 2011, 03:49:59 AM: My son absolutely loves the old live action Thomas the Train shows, and it has got me thinking about building a set like that for him for later on.

I really just wanted to subscribe to this thread because it looks like it's gonna be awesome! Thanks Chako for always documenting your adventures so well!
Title: Re: March Break Project (Model Train Build)
Post by: Chako on March 16, 2011, 02:53:05 PM: Not sure if it will be awesome. I am certain it will be a learning experience for me however, as this is my first time building something like this.

Anyways, I came across a dilemma last night. I realized I had to build the complete track to see where I stood. You see, the instructions tell me to build the track section inside the tunnels. I thought I could get away with just following the instructions...but alas, you cannot trust everything you read. I had bought the Atlas track pack made specifically for this layout. I found out the instructions and the track pieces deviated from what the Kit instructions stated from Woodland Scenics. I figured ok...no problems. Well, this morning I got cold feet and decided to bite the bullet and just build the whole track to see if all is as it should be. Good thing I spent an hour and a half building the track. I found that both instructions were wrong. I switched a few track pieced around and it now fits a lot better now.

On a flip side, Atlas tracks come with the metal connector pieces connected in strips of 4. This means you have to move them side to side to cause metal fatigue which eventually breaks them apart. If I see another Atlas track connector anytime soon, I shall scream.

On a positive note, I now have one of my steam Bachmann train engines running and testing the track. I had to remove a few pieced of track to jury rig a Bachmann EZ track with power connector to power the rails. Everything seems to run fine. Now I have to break it all apart and continue building that track tunnel inside and walls. That is my job for today. Not sure if I will get it done in the time frame I have allotted myself...but that is my goal.

Here are some photos.

Yes, I have used my motorcycle kit Leatherman MUT in the build. I have found the saw and knife blade to be useful.
(http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r207/Chako_photo/Leather%20Projects/IMG_0771small.jpg)

And here is the whole track layout...well as much as I could get into the plane of view. I stopped the train just in case you were wondering.
(http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r207/Chako_photo/Leather%20Projects/IMG_0772small-1.jpg)
Title: Re: March Break Project (Model Train Build)
Post by: ryan1835 on March 16, 2011, 10:42:38 PM: take another pic with the fish eye ;)
Title: Re: March Break Project (Model Train Build)
Post by: nuphoria on March 16, 2011, 11:27:47 PM: This is very cool and you are such a big kid! :D
Title: Re: March Break Project (Model Train Build)
Post by: Chako on March 18, 2011, 06:48:07 PM: <--- Trying very hard at not growing up anymore then I have to. :D :rofl:

Anyhow, its update time.

Not much progress I fear. Everything is taking a little longer than anticipated, especially foam tack glue drying time. But just to show you that there is some progress here are a couple more photographs.

Well I now have the internal tunnel walls complete along with the foam tunnel portals glued in place. Here, you can see the foam portals, and one of the plaster detailed pieces that still needs to be coloured and glued into place...but that will be much later.

(http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r207/Chako_photo/Leather%20Projects/IMG_0774small-1.jpg)

The next step is to start putting on the edge boards. That big back piece consists of 5 boards. I still need to cut an inch off of the right most piece. The back boards aren't glued in place yet. After I dry fit them as in the photo, I get to make the sides and front board profiles as well. After those have been cut and dry fitted in place, I have to cut paper profiles and then trace them onto those boards and cut them to shape. Once that is done, I get to make the tunnel ceilings and then the real fun part of making newspaper wads which will then get plaster cloth coated to make the mountains. This is taking quite some time to do...and I must admit, I am getting my money's worth of fun out of doing this.

(http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r207/Chako_photo/Leather%20Projects/IMG_0773small.jpg)
Title: Re: March Break Project (Model Train Build)
Post by: ryan1835 on March 18, 2011, 07:08:20 PM: i hope you hand carved the tunnel portals ;) looking good
Title: Re: March Break Project (Model Train Build)
Post by: Chako on March 20, 2011, 05:55:20 PM: No. They come pre-made. It would take me forever to do that sort of detail.

Update time.

I just finished installing the edge boards. I started off by fitting them in place. Then I cut out the paper templates last night while watching TV. This morning, I glued the edge boards together and then to the base. I then placed my paper templates onto the walls, and traced them using a pencil. The next step was to use my new fancy wire foam cutter. This was money well spent. It heats a nichrome wire which goes through the foam like it does not exist. I used this foam wire cutter to make my profile. Afterwards, I used an Exacto knife with a long blade to cut out the access ports in the back (The Leatherman MUT's saw does make a mess of Styrofoam). These will allow access to the track inside to fix any problems that might happen inside the mountain.

My next step after all of this is to make foam tunnel ceilings...and then the fun part of newspaper bundles and then plaster cloth over that to make the mountain.

Here are the photos.

The edge boards are now glued to each other and the base.
(http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r207/Chako_photo/Leather%20Projects/IMG_0788small.jpg)

Next is to trace the paper template.
(http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r207/Chako_photo/Leather%20Projects/IMG_0789small-1.jpg)

Is it wrong that I love my hot wire foam cutter so much? The tool made a tough job supper easy. Here you can see that I have finished using it, and have cut out two of the 3 tunnel access portals.
(http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r207/Chako_photo/Leather%20Projects/IMG_0790small-1.jpg)

Onto the next step I guess...but I need a little break.
(http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r207/Chako_photo/Leather%20Projects/IMG_0792small-1.jpg)
Title: Re: March Break Project (Model Train Build)
Post by: J-sews on March 20, 2011, 10:01:51 PM: Wow, I didn't know there were going to be such large mountains! :) Looks like you're well on your way to an N-scale Gorre and Daphetid :salute:
Title: Re: March Break Project (Model Train Build)
Post by: Chako on March 20, 2011, 10:57:26 PM: Tell me about it. I was a little surprised at how high that corner mountain will be.

Well, looks like my next step might be to paint some burnt umber in the visible parts of those tunnels. I still haven't placed ballast in those locations yet either. I think it might be wise to eliminate as much of that white right now while I can.
Title: Re: March Break Project (Model Train Build)
Post by: Threeme2189 on March 21, 2011, 06:34:32 PM: That is going to be awesome.
Godd work Chako!
Title: Re: March Break Project (Model Train Build)
Post by: Chako on March 26, 2011, 09:35:08 PM: Well not much time to work on the display due to work...however, this hasn't stopped me from buying a few more items for the build. This means that I will have to wait a few more weeks to know exactly what I am going to do as far as the town layout will be. I did buy a few wide track kits, controller, and motorized Tomix articulated tram. The idea is to somehow have a tram system incorporated into the town along with the train rail system. I am thinking a tram system from the train station into town and back again. This will be on a separate mini N scale rail system. I did receive my Bachmann Dynamis DCC system, but no DCC enabled engines yet to try it out.

So this is the plan.
1. Two trains, one a freight train with a Kato Sound enabled DCC engine. The other is a Bachmann Amtrak Acela that is also DCC enabled... with no sound...but it does feature lighted cars. Not sure if this will work with my current track layout. If it doesn't, I have plans for it regardless. In that even, I will have to get another DCC enabled train engine...but I will cross that bridge if and when I get there.
2. A tram system to freight people to and from the town.
3. Seeing that the village is mostly made up of Japanese Tomytec buildings, I am thinking of going with that theme, even though the trains are North American. I bought a few more buildings, a train shed, and a few Japanese vendor stalls and sidewalk scenes from Tomytec. Guess I am not going with a 100% realistic set up, but it should prove interesting nonetheless.

Tomorrow should see me getting a few more things done on the display. :salute:
Title: Re: March Break Project (Model Train Build)
Post by: Chako on March 27, 2011, 05:50:29 PM: I finally got to adding some ballast at those tunnel entrances. I even added some scenic cement to the ballast between the ties. If this part doesn't look all that good once the display is finished, I can always get in there at a later date. So with that said, the tunnels are now finally completed. I just finished gluing the tunnel roofs into place. This part does not need to look good as it won't be seen later.

Here you can see the ballast added to the tunnel entryways. I paid attention to the center of the track, figuring I can add more to the outside later on.
(http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r207/Chako_photo/Leather%20Projects/IMG_0850SMALL.jpg)

Yay! the tunnel roof is now finally installed. I had hoped to be at this stage a week ago while I was still on vacation.
(http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r207/Chako_photo/Leather%20Projects/IMG_0851small-1.jpg)
Title: Re: March Break Project (Model Train Build)
Post by: Chako on March 27, 2011, 08:33:33 PM: I won't be able to do anything now until a few more things come in. :think:

I did migrate the buildings I currently have to see how they will fit onto the display. I now have to wait for that tram system and other building items to come in before I can plaster cloth everything.

Anyways, here is a test shot of the village area. Nothing is set in stone yet. So much for getting this done anytime soon. :D

(http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r207/Chako_photo/Leather%20Projects/IMG_0852small.jpg)
Title: Re: March Break Project (Model Train Build)
Post by: J-sews on March 27, 2011, 09:19:41 PM: Is it too late to consider a stream, with perhaps a waterfall coming off one of the hills? :)
Title: Re: March Break Project (Model Train Build)
Post by: Chako on March 27, 2011, 09:57:01 PM: There will be some sort of small stream coming down that mountain. That low spot in the front will also feature two culverts that came with the kit. I did buy special waterfall scenic glue for just that purpose. :D
Title: Re: March Break Project (Model Train Build)
Post by: Chako on April 02, 2011, 05:05:33 PM: Update time.

Not a whole lot to report on the build. Right now waiting on several key pieces. A few little items did come in this week but nothing major. But alas all is not good.

1. I bought a sound enabled diesel from Australia and it hasn't arrived. I checked eBay and found that the seller is no longer registered on eBay. I am going to give it a few more days and see what happens next. I am hoping beyond hope that it was sent to me and is on its way. I somehow have my doubts though. I may have to open a dispute claim if it doesn't arrive soon. :(

2. I received my Bachmann Amtrak Acela model and quickly found out that it doesn't run on tight curves. It is a beautiful train and I did buy 3 extra business cars for it. When I attempted to use the track that it does come in, it was too wide for my display table...so I set it up on the floor. The details are fantastic and DCC is definitely the way to go. You get a much smoother power band transition from DC. I guess that is one of the benefits of AC. On the plus side, I can at least try out the Bachmann Dynamis DCC controller. It works like a charm, and the cordless design is great. The train just won't fit on my display however.

3. I am still waiting for the Tomix tram track and Tram.

4. I also just purchased this morning a Tokyo Tomix Bus system. It is a rechargeable N scale bus that runs along special roadbed with a metal wire imbedded inside. The bus follows the wire via a small magnet. The bus system also comes with a bus station that the bus stops at and then continued on its way in a loop. More curious then anything else...and if I can incorporate this into the display along with that tram, it should give me some much needed movement and possibly interest in the final product.

Still unsure how both the tram and bus system will work on the display. I will need to get them first before I can do much more on the build in terms of the building area. The DCC sound enabled Diesel is my biggest concern right now, as a lot was planned around it. The Acela doesn't like tight track curves combined with the inability of the Dynamis DCC controller system in operating the regular DC engines, means I may be buying DCC enabled engines in the near future.

If all goes as planned, I should have a few more photos in here tomorrow.
Title: Re: March Break Project (Model Train Build)
Post by: ryan1835 on April 02, 2011, 08:25:23 PM: ive been working on full sized steam engines today at the bluebell railway, now covered in soot :rofl:

good fun though
Title: Re: March Break Project (Model Train Build)
Post by: Chako on April 09, 2011, 03:21:15 AM: That sounds like a lot of fun ryan1835.

Well not much to report other than a few pieces have come in. I haven't had a chance to do anything on the build until a few more key pieces come in. Then I will have to figure out how to integrate what I want before I can proceed any further.

In the mean time, here are a few photographs...

Here is the pride of my display. This is a Kato Sound enabled DCC EMD E8/9A. It has engine noise and all.
(http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r207/Chako_photo/Leather%20Projects/IMG_0869small.jpg)

The tram just came in today. It is a Tomytec Tetsudou low floor articulated tram. Interestingly enough, these units come as a static display with fixed plastic wheels molded into a removable floorboard with molded seats. The neat part is that you can also buy a motor unit for them. Apparently there are a series of motor units that fit corresponding body shells. Simply pry off the shell and place it onto the motorized unit and you have a working tram.

Here, you can see the cheap plastic floorboard with the plastic static display track and articulated tram on its motorized base.
(http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r207/Chako_photo/Leather%20Projects/IMG_0862small.jpg)

The articulated tram is a little larger than I expected. I have a few N scale static trams from another manufacturer, and the newer articulated tram design is a larger unit then these.
(http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r207/Chako_photo/Leather%20Projects/IMG_0863small-1.jpg)

Here is the separate motorized base unit along with part of the upper tram shell.
(http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r207/Chako_photo/Leather%20Projects/IMG_0866small-1.jpg)

Today, some of the tram track also came in. Unfortunately, I still do not have the tram control battery pack. I understand these tram systems run on 100 Volts and not 110. The tram track is called wide track and it is from Tomix. This track simulates tram rails imbedded in concrete.
(http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r207/Chako_photo/Leather%20Projects/IMG_0867small.jpg)

Here is the articulated tram on the tracks.
(http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r207/Chako_photo/Leather%20Projects/IMG_0868small-1.jpg)

I was thinking of making a party scene or special event scene. I have bought several Japanese Tomytec food vendors.
(http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r207/Chako_photo/Leather%20Projects/IMG_0864small-1.jpg)

Here are two Japanese street scenes from Tomytec glued together.
(http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r207/Chako_photo/Leather%20Projects/IMG_0865small.jpg)

Still waiting for the tram controller and a few more pieces of track, along with the tomytec bus stop system. I understand it is designed to connect with the tram tracks. Once I get that in, I should be ready to go.
Title: Re: March Break Project (Model Train Build)
Post by: ryan1835 on April 09, 2011, 10:05:29 PM: just call me ryan, today i went back and we were removing the super heater elements from an engine very messy job and hard everything had baked tight so we had to heat everything up with propane before it would budge!

your model railways coming along nicely
Title: Re: March Break Project (Model Train Build)
Post by: Chako on April 24, 2011, 06:31:25 PM: Easter Monday is a good time to do a little more on the project. I still don't have all the pieces, however, I can't wait forever. With the nice weather hopefully around the corner, the call of the motorcycle will become a greater force. That and I have a friend who is competing with me in a friendly fashion. His layout is an HO scale, and it is big. We have egged each other on all winter, and I fear he might be winning...so I am going to try and do as much as I can today.

Time to continue my step by step illustrations...

I finally got around to cutting the last flat pieced for the village and factory. Before I install all of the pre-fitted foam pieces, I have to glue down the support pillars.
(http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r207/Chako_photo/Leather%20Projects/IMG_0981small-1.jpg)

Now that all of the flat pieces are now glued, the next step is a bit time consuming. I have spent a few hours folding newspaper to act as a support for the plaster cloth covering.
(http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r207/Chako_photo/Leather%20Projects/IMG_0983small-1.jpg)

Yay, this part is done! Only 5 newspapers had to be used. I am going to take a break, and then comes the real fun and messy step, plaster cloth covering of everything.
(http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r207/Chako_photo/Leather%20Projects/IMG_0986small.jpg)

I find it a little ironic and amusing to think that this was the step I thought I would be back in March as I was going back to work from my holidays. I had it right, only wrong holiday. :D
Title: Re: March Break Project (Model Train Build)
Post by: Chako on April 24, 2011, 08:29:33 PM: I am starting to plaster. Now things are starting to look a little better. :D

(http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r207/Chako_photo/Leather%20Projects/IMG_0987small.jpg)
Title: Re: March Break Project (Model Train Build)
Post by: Vladimir on April 24, 2011, 08:40:32 PM: I enjoy watching this thread, excellent job you're doing there Chako!
Can't wait to see it finished.
Title: Re: March Break Project (Model Train Build)
Post by: Grant Lamontagne on April 24, 2011, 09:45:36 PM: Quote from: Chako on April 24, 2011, 06:31:25 PM
Easter Monday is a good time to do a little more on the project.

Uh, you do realize it's still Sunday, right? Maybe you should open a window- it sounds like the fumes may be getting to you! :D

Def
Title: Re: March Break Project (Model Train Build)
Post by: J-sews on April 24, 2011, 10:05:09 PM: Your mountain is beginning to look mountainous :)
Title: Re: March Break Project (Model Train Build)
Post by: Chako on April 24, 2011, 10:20:23 PM: Oh yeah. I gained a day! :D
Title: Re: March Break Project (Model Train Build)
Post by: Threeme2189 on April 25, 2011, 12:18:02 AM: If you plug the tram into a 220 volt socket will it go twice as fast? :pok:
Just kidding, nice work Chako!
Title: Re: March Break Project (Model Train Build)
Post by: Chako on April 25, 2011, 03:32:01 AM: Well, I just finished plastering the whole thing with one layer. That took a long time. :o

(http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r207/Chako_photo/Leather%20Projects/IMG_0988small.jpg)

(http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r207/Chako_photo/Leather%20Projects/IMG_0989small.jpg)

(http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r207/Chako_photo/Leather%20Projects/IMG_0990small.jpg)

That is it for me tonight. It was a good day of progress, and it wasn't on a Monday at that. :salute: :D
Title: Re: March Break Project (Model Train Build)
Post by: Chako on April 25, 2011, 11:41:58 PM: Finished a second layer of plaster. Now the whole thing is easier to pick up and move, as that plaster surface gives the whole piece some much needed structural integrity.
Title: Re: March Break Project (Model Train Build)
Post by: nuphoria on April 26, 2011, 05:54:59 PM: You've made some great progress.... looking forward to the next bit :D
Title: Re: March Break Project (Model Train Build)
Post by: Reinier on April 26, 2011, 06:22:08 PM: Looking good! :tu:
Title: Re: March Break Project (Model Train Build)
Post by: Chako on April 27, 2011, 12:34:49 AM: Well Nuphoria, not sure if the next step is all that exciting.

After work today, I trimmed the plaster cloth to fit the 4 tunnel caps. Now they look a lot better, not to mention they now fit.

(http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r207/Chako_photo/Leather%20Projects/IMG_0991small.jpg)

(http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r207/Chako_photo/Leather%20Projects/IMG_0992small.jpg)

I also mixed 7 Oz of water with 2 1/2 cups of hydrocal. I poured this into the rubber rock face moulds after wetting them with some soapy water to prevent bubbling.

(http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r207/Chako_photo/Leather%20Projects/IMG_0993small-1.jpg)

(http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r207/Chako_photo/Leather%20Projects/IMG_0994small-1.jpg)

Now all I have to do is wait a full day or so to see if my castings are successful.
Title: Re: March Break Project (Model Train Build)
Post by: Chako on May 02, 2011, 12:33:18 AM: Another busy day on the build. The rocks turned out great. I haven't installed them yet, as I am sure that will take a lot of fitting to make them look good. However, today, I finished gluing down the track bed and track.

Here is one of those rock castings...the largest of the lot.
(http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r207/Chako_photo/Leather%20Projects/IMG_1010small-1.jpg)

Here, I am using some heavy glue containers to keep the track in contact with the track bed. The instructions tell to use foam tack glue, and that is what I did. The glue is slow drying and becomes very tacky after a few minutes. Great stuff to work with as it allows you to make corrections 10 minutes later with ease. The glue needs to dry overnight.
(http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r207/Chako_photo/Leather%20Projects/IMG_1009small.jpg)
Title: Re: March Break Project (Model Train Build)
Post by: NutSAK on May 04, 2011, 09:59:09 PM: I hadn't checked this thread in a few weeks. Awesome progress Chako! :cheers:
Title: Re: March Break Project (Model Train Build)
Post by: Chako on May 04, 2011, 11:12:05 PM: Thanks. I wished I was a lot closer to being finished, but slow and steady usually gets me there in one piece. :D
Title: Re: March Break Project (Model Train Build)
Post by: Chako on May 06, 2011, 05:06:30 AM: I just received something in the mail today, and I am stoked. A little back-story is in order first.

Several months ago, I decided that I would like a DCC controller as I would like a train engine with sound. Well, I bought a Bachmann Dynamis IR system for that purpose. I then looked online for any N scale engines with sound. I was lucky enough to have found one and placed a winning bid on it. Well, because the seller soon got his eBay registration revoked, I was very worried I wouldn't get the engine. That and it did take its sweet time getting to me. So long was the time, that I had a PayPal case on the seller.

While I was worrying about the sound enabled engine, I did some reading and found that Backmann had an N scale Amtrack Acela with lighted cars that was DCC enabled out of the box. I bought that off of eBay. Well, the Acela came in before the engine, and I quickly found out it would not fit on my tight curved track. And I thought I had done my research. While puzzling this one over, and quickly realizing that I only had a few DC only engines, and no DCC, the sound enabled engine came in.

After quickly testing the engine out, and canceling the PayPal case against the seller, I really liked the engine and was quite happy I had went this route with the train. I placed the engine in storage while I continued my build of the display.

Well, a few weeks ago, I decided to try the engine with some of my rolling stock, and quickly found out that the Kato coupler is not compatible with the Bachmann couplers. Argh! After digging around on the net, I found out that the Kato couplers are for Kato passenger cars. I could replace the couplers, but that would mean opening up a very expensive engine. I had originally wanted a passenger train anyways (remember that Acela), so I looked once again on eBay and found a 10 car starter set that matched. I bought it...and it just came in today.

Well I must say, I am super impressed with the quality and details of the cars. I think the Southern Pacific Daylight colours are the nicest on a train. I tried it out on my track, and it all works great.

Photo time.

The engine and 10 car basic set is long. Interestingly enough, there are a few articulated cars in this basic set.
(http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r207/Chako_photo/Leather%20Projects/IMG_1016small.jpg)

Here you can see a pair of articulated cars. The details on this Kato set is astonishing. The rear observation car even has rear lights and a lighted name panel. Very nice touches.
(http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r207/Chako_photo/Leather%20Projects/IMG_1012small.jpg)

The colours are very nice.
(http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r207/Chako_photo/Leather%20Projects/IMG_1014small-1.jpg)

As for my Bachmann freight, I guess I can either buy a DCC enabled engine for my bachmann rolling freight, or leave it as part of the decoration. Not sure what I am going to do just yet. I know I have another Southern Pacific Daylight engine coming it that I will convert to DCC so that I can have a consist, and I just pulled the trigger on 4 sets of articulated cars which will give me the full train, along with enough passenger car lighting kits to do 12 cars. But enough of that, here is a single track shop that I will be installing at the front. I have to trim some of the track bed to get a better fit. I just placed it there to get an idea of what it will look like.
(http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r207/Chako_photo/Leather%20Projects/IMG_1015small.jpg)

So the lesson here is to delve deep into the research aspects before you buy. This hobby had a lot of gotchas if you're not careful. I am just happy that I now have something I can run on this display. As for the Acela, well I have a plan for it later after I finish this build.

(http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r207/Chako_photo/Leather%20Projects/IMG_1017small.jpg)
Title: Re: March Break Project (Model Train Build)
Post by: ryan1835 on May 07, 2011, 11:40:39 PM: what size is N? i was at a railway today that had 45mm gauge track running outside and i got to drive a 10 and a 1/4 inch engine :D
Title: Re: March Break Project (Model Train Build)
Post by: Chako on May 08, 2011, 01:33:20 AM: That would most likely be G scale. These trains are commonly used in gardens.

N scale is 9mm wide.

In fact, here is a good guide to track gauge and how it relates to the various gauge designations. Just follow the link and look at the chart midway on the page.

http://www.thestorefinder.com/rr/library/gauge-FAQ.html (http://www.thestorefinder.com/rr/library/gauge-FAQ.html)

I managed to do a little more today. I started off by masking the tracks.
(http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r207/Chako_photo/Leather%20Projects/IMG_1018small.jpg)

Then I mixed 2 oz of earth pigment with 16 oz of water, and used a foam brush to apply the wash to the white plaster.
(http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r207/Chako_photo/Leather%20Projects/IMG_1019small.jpg)

Hmmm...looks a lot better than that white. :D
(http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r207/Chako_photo/Leather%20Projects/IMG_1020small-1.jpg)
Title: Re: March Break Project (Model Train Build)
Post by: ryan1835 on May 08, 2011, 01:06:04 PM: yeah, this was in a garden. looking good, think you need a steam engine for the track though :pok: :D

i take it the track will have working points?
Title: Re: March Break Project (Model Train Build)
Post by: Gareth on May 08, 2011, 01:10:35 PM: Looking good Dan. :tu: Can I ask what happens if a train derails under the hill though? :ahhh
Title: Re: March Break Project (Model Train Build)
Post by: ryan1835 on May 08, 2011, 03:00:07 PM: lots of shaking i presume
Title: Re: March Break Project (Model Train Build)
Post by: Chako on May 08, 2011, 05:42:59 PM: No worries. :D
There is a series of 3 access hatches cut in the back for that purpose.

As for steam, I do have a pair of steam engines, but not DCC compatible. I have found that these little steamers tend to be lighter then Diesels and have a bit of trouble pulling several cars up an incline...and this layout has a lot of incline. There is a fairly large steam engine made specifically for the Southern Pacific Daylight...but I already have a 50/60s era diesel engine with sound, and a sister KATO unit on its way that I will convert to DCC with the right DCC daughter board. I figure a consist of two should have no difficulty pulling 18 passenger cars around this layout.

Here is the Daylight Wiki for more info on this beautiful train.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coast_Daylight_(SP_train) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coast_Daylight_(SP_train))
Title: Re: March Break Project (Model Train Build)
Post by: ryan1835 on May 08, 2011, 05:52:40 PM: cool, yesterday someone had a 45mm canadian style train they were driving on the track unfortunately when it got to a tunnel it made it through but it scratched the paintwork on the cement, clever idea having the hatches though. Looking forward to a video of it running when your done
Title: Re: March Break Project (Model Train Build)
Post by: J-sews on May 08, 2011, 09:15:35 PM: The Daylight scheme looks good, but for some reason I always liked the SP Black Widow pattern better. :) (especially the Cotton Belt engines) :tu:

I suppose though they didn't run those on passenger trains did they :-\
Title: Re: March Break Project (Model Train Build)
Post by: Chako on May 09, 2011, 12:59:09 AM: I haven't posted any videos lately because youtube won't let me. They keep wanting me to make another account or something to access youtube. Something about Google...I say no.

:(
Title: Re: March Break Project (Model Train Build)
Post by: Chako on May 13, 2011, 01:57:30 AM: Not much happening on the build. The nice weather is here and I am dying to get my motorcycle. I figure next weekend and I will have it. But enough of that. What I did do was to upgrade 6 Kato Southern Pacific Daylight coaches with interior lighting. Man oh man...talk about a super easy procedure made super tough by crappy instructions. Worst part, most of it was in Japanese. There was only a few curt sentences in English.

Anyways, I did manage to get them done with minimal cursing. Once you figure out what to do, it is a very easy procedure. Now I have another package of 6 interior lights on its way to me hopefully. Oddly enough, I had ordered these before the ones I just installed.

To wrap things up, I also decided to convert my other KATO diesel to DCC. This was easy enough except for one major thing. Once you get the power rails off, just try to get them back on and place the DCC decoder board on both of them all lined up. Even more swearing ensued. I just finished wrapping it up and testing it on the track. For some reason, it wants to run backwards...but that is ok...as I will be running it backwards...so I figure I must have done something wrong...but it turned out right in the end. I strongly suspect I could easily tell the loco which is front and which is back with a little programming. To keep things in character, I did use my Bladeless Fuse to cut the back LED light off of the decoder.

Here is a link for the curious that I found...oddly enough...it's the same loco in the same colour using the same decoder. Now that doesn't happen often. :D

http://www.tcsdcc.com/public_html/Customer_Content/Installation_Pictures/N_Scale/Kato/EMD_E8_9A/EMD_E8_9A.html (http://www.tcsdcc.com/public_html/Customer_Content/Installation_Pictures/N_Scale/Kato/EMD_E8_9A/EMD_E8_9A.html)
Title: Re: March Break Project (Model Train Build)
Post by: Chako on May 14, 2011, 05:10:29 PM: Not much so far to show...but there is some progress. I just finished cutting out some foam board that I bought at a local store because I wanted to incorporate the Tomytec moving bus. The problem being the track is a bit thick, and I needed the foam board to place the buildings at the right level. I haven't yet coloured the foam board yet, but I did place my buildings on the layout trying to get a good placement.

(http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r207/Chako_photo/Leather%20Projects/IMG_1046small-2.jpg)
Title: Re: March Break Project (Model Train Build)
Post by: Chako on May 15, 2011, 06:04:07 AM: Well today, I finished giving the foam board a base coat of grey, and more importantly, I finally installed some of those rocks. I haven't coloured them, but at least they are installed. I had been looking at how to do this for some time now, and figured just doing was a lot better than getting all clever about it. Because I had to blend them in using plaster cloth, I have to now wait for that to dry before blending the new pieces with some earth tone pigment.

Silly photo time...

I opened up one of my static tram models with the plan of gluing a few villagers in there. My idea is to have it as a dinner.
(http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r207/Chako_photo/Leather%20Projects/IMG_1054small-1.jpg)

Seeing that the vast majority of the buildings are Japanese Tomytec N scale items...I figured it was time to add him in there somewhere.
(http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r207/Chako_photo/Leather%20Projects/IMG_1047small.jpg)

You know, I just might add him to the display. There is just something so Japanese about this... :rofl:
(http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r207/Chako_photo/Leather%20Projects/IMG_1055small-1.jpg)
Title: Re: March Break Project (Model Train Build)
Post by: Chako on May 15, 2011, 09:17:06 PM: Well today, after helping a friend load a trailer full of manure for his garden, I wanted to get a little further ahead on the build.

The original kit came with 2 culverts. I installed them today. Here is a photo of one before I painted it grayish black and permanently installed it in place.
(http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r207/Chako_photo/Leather%20Projects/IMG_1056small-1.jpg)

While I was at it, I also painted the base coat for the tunnel portals.
(http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r207/Chako_photo/Leather%20Projects/IMG_1057small-1.jpg)

I also finished the foam board underlay for the factory area. I will try to blend it in with the surroundings somehow. All the buildings are still not glued down yet...thinking that should be the very last step after doing the vegetation.
(http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r207/Chako_photo/Leather%20Projects/IMG_1058small-1.jpg)

I also decided to fit my train maintenance building . To do that, I had to trim the foam track bed on each side as the building is a tight fit around the track.
(http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r207/Chako_photo/Leather%20Projects/IMG_1059small.jpg)

(http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r207/Chako_photo/Leather%20Projects/IMG_1061small.jpg)

I just finished installing all the rocks on the cliff faces. This involved cutting into the plaster cloth, fitting the rock piece, and covering it back up partially with some new plaster cloth. Once it dries, I will earth tone the new plaster to blend it in...and possibly colour the rocks...but that will be for a later date.
(http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r207/Chako_photo/Leather%20Projects/IMG_1063small-1.jpg)

Well I am almost to the point where I can start laying down some vegetation. I still need to plaster the outsides, and then pain the whole thing black for a good finish.
Title: Re: March Break Project (Model Train Build)
Post by: Screwtape on May 15, 2011, 09:52:39 PM: Very impressive project Chako, I don't think you'd even started this last time I took a good look though Break Room the forums. I'm really lookin foward to seeing what you do next :tu:

oh and is that a classic sneaking into that last photo? :B:
Title: Re: March Break Project (Model Train Build)
Post by: Chako on May 16, 2011, 12:58:17 AM: Dang...looks like I got a repeater. Here is the photo for the second repeat in my last posting.

(http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r207/Chako_photo/Leather%20Projects/IMG_1057small-1.jpg)

Thanks. Having a lot of fun doing this.
Title: Re: March Break Project (Model Train Build)
Post by: Gareth on May 16, 2011, 01:09:27 AM: Sorted pic Dan. How many more hours until it's done do you think? or is this going to be a never-ending project to tinker with? :)
Title: Re: March Break Project (Model Train Build)
Post by: Chako on May 16, 2011, 01:42:33 AM: No clue. I have never done anything like this before. I think once I start getting some green on there, I know I will be close to the end.
Title: Re: March Break Project (Model Train Build)
Post by: J-sews on May 24, 2011, 05:54:41 AM: :)
Title: Re: March Break Project (Model Train Build)
Post by: Chako on May 24, 2011, 12:04:47 PM: Yesterday was frustrating. So much so that I had to walk away. My long passenger train kept derailing at 2 spots on the track. Of course, due to the gradient, this meant that most of the following cars would roll backwards and derail as a group. This of course necessitated repeating the whole thing over and over again until I got a good notion of what was happening. This took a few hours, and expanded all my patience. So I walked away from it for a few days with a good idea of what I might have to do to put the track right again.

I still haven't got to the fun final stages yet, and am sort of happy that I tested the full train on the track first before I did my scenery. :D
Title: Re: March Break Project (Model Train Build)
Post by: Chako on June 02, 2011, 03:38:05 AM: Nothing new to report. I did take this photograph of my friends HO layout...a work in progress.

(http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r207/Chako_photo/Leather%20Projects/IMG_1193small-1.jpg)
Title: Re: March Break Project (Model Train Build)
Post by: Mercury on June 02, 2011, 03:10:09 PM: Alright, TIE Fighter!
Title: Re: March Break Project (Model Train Build)
Post by: Chako on June 03, 2011, 01:57:01 AM: He has a whole aeronautical thing going on there, from WWI fighters to jets. He wanted something from the future...a Tie Fighter fit the bill. :D
Title: Re: March Break Project (Model Train Build)
Post by: Mercury on June 03, 2011, 04:34:26 AM: I also like the harvest themed shag carpet. Groovy.
Title: Re: March Break Project (Model Train Build)
Post by: J-sews on June 03, 2011, 05:33:04 AM: Santa Fe SD40 :)
Title: Re: March Break Project (Model Train Build)
Post by: Chako on June 03, 2011, 12:25:59 PM: Yes, an EMD SD40. :salute:

It is his favorite engine as he worked on them for the local Algoma Central Railway. He does like the Santa Fe colour scheme. :D

(http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r207/Chako_photo/Leather%20Projects/IMG_1192small.jpg)
Title: Re: March Break Project (Model Train Build)
Post by: Chako on June 13, 2011, 12:36:47 PM: Nothing new to update on the build. I reckon once I get on my summer holidays, I should have the time to finish it.

On the flip side, I have been helping a friend with his G scale outdoor garden train.

(http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r207/Chako_photo/Leather%20Projects/IMG_1253small-1.jpg)

He went with the cheapest route to see if it would look good. So he got himself a Lionel Penn Flyer toy train set off of eBay, along with plenty of extra plastic track. Then he moved his waterfall feature 8 inches higher, and built a clear Plexiglas tunnel to protect the train from any splash over. He also built some side rails just in case the train decides to derail and fall into his pond.

(http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r207/Chako_photo/Leather%20Projects/IMG_1252small-1.jpg)

We both agree, the train accents his garden. I know he will be building onto it for years to come.
Title: Re: March Break Project (Model Train Build)
Post by: Mercury on June 13, 2011, 06:45:07 PM: That is an awesome idea! Could you get some more pics of that garden dan?
Title: Re: March Break Project (Model Train Build)
Post by: Chako on June 14, 2011, 01:04:24 PM: Here you go.

(http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r207/Chako_photo/Leather%20Projects/IMG_1254small.jpg)

(http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r207/Chako_photo/Leather%20Projects/IMG_1251small.jpg)
Title: Re: March Break Project (Model Train Build)
Post by: Mercury on June 14, 2011, 03:10:31 PM: Sweet. Cool ideas.
Title: Re: March Break Project (Model Train Build)
Post by: ryan1835 on June 14, 2011, 11:56:52 PM: go on chako get a 10 1/4 inch gauge track in your garden and a real engine :D

you can get up too 30 mph on one of these

(http://www.friendsmodels.com/images/545_Royal_Scot_4.jpg)
Title: Re: March Break Project (Model Train Build)
Post by: Chako on June 15, 2011, 12:34:19 AM: I don't have the room for one of those. :drool:
Title: Re: March Break Project (Model Train Build)
Post by: ryan1835 on June 15, 2011, 09:22:13 AM: they also cost about £90k :rofl:
Title: Re: March Break Project (Model Train Build)
Post by: Chako on June 15, 2011, 12:20:52 PM: I do have a friend's father who does have one of those park sized trains in his back yard. He does have the room for it, and it is great fun being taken for a ride on it. He built his using a lawn mower engine for the power source. It works great.
Title: Re: March Break Project (Model Train Build)
Post by: Chako on August 27, 2011, 10:10:59 AM: I want my kitchen back. So with that goal in mind, I am going to try and do a big push to get this project completed and moved upstairs. Hard to believe I have had this taking up my kitchen table since March. That is half a year.

I just finished plastering the sides. Tomorrow, I am planning on doing some painting. :)

The almost finished sides. Next step is to paint this black. At least the plaster adds a lot of much needed structural rigidity and should make it easier to move it later.

(http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r207/Chako_photo/Album%202/SAM_0727small.jpg)
Back side.

(http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r207/Chako_photo/Album%202/SAM_0728small.jpg)
Front side. I placed a towel to protect the table from the still damp plaster while working on the back side.

Once I get the outside finished, my next step will probably be to remove all of this again, and then start the real fun part, adding grass, shrubs, and trees to the landscape. Afterwards, glue down all the buildings. I can't wait to get this done. My goal is to get this done before going to work on the 6th.

(http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r207/Chako_photo/Album%202/SAM_0729small.jpg)
Title: Re: March Break Project (Model Train Build)
Post by: J-sews on August 27, 2011, 03:08:43 PM: Looking good :)
Title: Re: March Break Project (Model Train Build)
Post by: Chako on August 28, 2011, 03:34:39 PM: Thanks. I figure another few days of working on it off and on should do the trick.

Time for a few more update photos.

The kit came with a set of 3 pigments that had to be mixed with water and then painted onto the rocks.

(http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r207/Chako_photo/Album%202/SAM_0730small.jpg)

The colours are surprisingly light. I might paint some darker colours at a later date to give the rocks a little more definition.

(http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r207/Chako_photo/Album%202/SAM_0731small.jpg)

Well once the rocks finaly got some colour, it was time to start adding some greenery.

(http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r207/Chako_photo/Album%202/SAM_0732small.jpg)

After adding a few more colours of grass that you sprinkle onto the surface that was prepped with some scenic glue spray...

(http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r207/Chako_photo/Album%202/SAM_0733small.jpg)

And where it it right now. Next step is to possibly get some acrylic grays and make a stronger wash to either colour those cliff faces, or carefully spray some scenic glue onto those cliffs and blow some darker powder onto them using a sheet of paper for control. Either way, I want those cliff areas a darker colour then off white/very light brown.

(http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r207/Chako_photo/Album%202/SAM_0734small.jpg)

Once I get all of the grass cover/surface cover on, I will have to install the track ballast. After that, I will start gluing the buildings and other things. Followed by shrubs and trees.

Once all of that is done, I might declare it done!
Title: Re: March Break Project (Model Train Build)
Post by: Gareth on August 28, 2011, 05:01:21 PM: That paint effect is looking good mate. :)
Title: Re: March Break Project (Model Train Build)
Post by: Whoey on August 28, 2011, 05:04:38 PM: looking good... (wish I had somewhere to do such things...)
Title: Re: March Break Project (Model Train Build)
Post by: Chako on August 28, 2011, 05:13:49 PM: I really don't either. This project has taken over my kitchen for half a year. I just moved the table that was taking over my living room for the same amount of time upstairs. Soon, that landscape will follow. I can't wait to get some much needed living space back.
Title: Re: March Break Project (Model Train Build)
Post by: Chako on August 29, 2011, 01:33:41 AM: Time to make the trees. The kit came with 3 colours of clumped foliage. This stuff is basically chopped up foam. However, once I opened one bag, I noticed that the clumps were rather large for N scale. I quickly found a large container and dumped all 3 colours in and started to mix and break up the larger pieces into smaller ones.

(http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r207/Chako_photo/Album%202/SAM_0740small.jpg)

Once I got the clumps down to size, I took apart the tree armatures and started to bend them into shape. These have a metal wire inside which makes them very easy to bend. once I had the tree skeletons shaped, it was time to brush on some Hob-e-tack glue. This glue is supposed to stay on for 15 minutes until it becomes clear. Once clear, you can dip the tree skeleton into the foliage. The result looks great. They even came with a temporary base to keep the trees upright till the glue dries. A nice touch.

Here are all my trees finished and ready to add to my scenery.

(http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r207/Chako_photo/Album%202/SAM_0739small.jpg)

Scratch off the trees. The whole process took about an hour and a half to do from start to finish.

I am getting there, slow but sure. :salute:
Title: Re: March Break Project (Model Train Build)
Post by: J-sews on August 29, 2011, 02:00:51 AM: Neat, a miniature forest :)
Title: Re: March Break Project (Model Train Build)
Post by: Chako on August 29, 2011, 06:19:46 AM: Yes, they did turn out rather well. :D
Title: Re: March Break Project (Model Train Build)
Post by: Reinier on August 29, 2011, 09:48:17 AM: Nice trees!

Make sure sparky415 doesn't enter your kitchen with all those axes he has :ahhh

Edit:
Looks like he actually has a special ax for you tiny trees :D

(http://i112.photobucket.com/albums/n184/sparky_415/stuff/240811007.jpg)

http://forum.multitool.org/index.php/topic,22707.msg512443.html#msg512443 (http://forum.multitool.org/index.php/topic,22707.msg512443.html#msg512443)
Title: Re: March Break Project (Model Train Build)
Post by: Chako on August 29, 2011, 02:51:25 PM: :ahhh :ahhh :ahhh :ahhh :ahhh :ahhh :ahhh :ahhh :ahhh :ahhh
:ahhh :ahhh :ahhh :ahhh :ahhh
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Title: Re: March Break Project (Model Train Build)
Post by: ryan1835 on August 29, 2011, 05:30:02 PM: no? :think:
Title: Re: March Break Project (Model Train Build)
Post by: Reinier on August 29, 2011, 05:32:24 PM: Yes :)
Title: Re: March Break Project (Model Train Build)
Post by: J-sews on August 30, 2011, 03:08:23 AM: Quote from: Reinier on August 29, 2011, 09:48:17 AM
Nice trees!

Make sure sparky415 doesn't enter your kitchen with all those axes he has :ahhh

Edit:
Looks like he actually has a special ax for you tiny trees :D

(http://i112.photobucket.com/albums/n184/sparky_415/stuff/240811007.jpg)

http://forum.multitool.org/index.php/topic,22707.msg512443.html#msg512443 (http://forum.multitool.org/index.php/topic,22707.msg512443.html#msg512443)

Good one Reinier :D
Title: Re: March Break Project (Model Train Build)
Post by: Chako on August 31, 2011, 04:00:26 AM: No as in...that little axe is not getting anywhere near my little forest "No". :rofl:

I will have some new photos to post tomorrow on the build It is coming along nicely.
Title: Re: March Break Project (Model Train Build)
Post by: Chako on August 31, 2011, 11:50:45 PM: Well, I am very close to finishing this project. All I have to do is clean the tracks, figure out all the building locations, glue them in place, glue the tiny people, accessories, etc, and apply the shrubs and trees. I am so close to finishing this project, I can taste it. I didn't think it would take me 6 months of on and off again puttering to get to this point...but I will party once it is finished.

I moved the project upstairs. I also painted the 3 visible sides black. I didn't see the need to pain the back black as nobody will get to see that anyways. The buildings are not glued down, and probably aren't in their final location. I am however, finished the ballast on the tracks.

(http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r207/Chako_photo/Album%202/SAM_0780small.jpg)

A closer look.

(http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r207/Chako_photo/Album%202/SAM_0779small.jpg)

The light blue off the wall and ceiling helps the overall impression of the project. Once I get the details set, this will be something I am going to have for quite some time.

(http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r207/Chako_photo/Album%202/SAM_0777small.jpg)

I hope to do more work on it tomorrow.
Title: Re: March Break Project (Model Train Build)
Post by: Chako on September 03, 2011, 03:02:21 AM: Update time!

I am so close to finishing this project, I can almost taste it. What has placed a dampener on my progress is the oppressive heat with a big heaping side order of humidity. With that said however, I should be done tomorrow.

I had ordered this nice terminal/station set a few months ago, even going so far as to built it. However, I neglected to paint it as I was uncertain if I wanted to include it. Well, I do, and here is the finished product. These are going on the track layout tomorrow.

(http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r207/Chako_photo/Album%202/SAM_0781small.jpg)

After painting the bigger job was to clean the track of all the glue, dirt, and whatnot. I used a special track cleaning eraser (actually, looks and feels a lot like those pen erasers one could find at a good stationary store), followed by some sandpaper to sand down the rails. Once that was finished, I placed an engine on the rails and tried it out. It didn't go very far. I found some of the ballast clogging the works. A quick brush down with a stiff paintbrush did the trick. Now the train runs beautifully with a few cars in tow.

(http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r207/Chako_photo/Album%202/SAM_0782small.jpg)

Tomorrow, I have to populate the village with people and a few little items. Right now, they are heaped into a pile in the upper factory section ready for installation.

(http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r207/Chako_photo/Album%202/SAM_0783small.jpg)

I found this metal guy also today, and thought it would make a perfect bronze statue. I placed him on a hill. He looks great.

(http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r207/Chako_photo/Album%202/SAM_0784small.jpg)

I also had an issue with these two identical items. Both track lights looked poor straddling a single track each, and one wasn't large enough to cover two tracks. I solved that little problem by tearing one up somewhat and glued them together to make a nicer larger light tree.

(http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r207/Chako_photo/Album%202/SAM_0785small.jpg)

One idea I have for this area is a car show. this should look better with a few people added.

(http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r207/Chako_photo/Album%202/SAM_0786small.jpg)

I also glued a few electrical poles running along the track from the village to the Industrial building. I haven't figured out what I will do with the street lights yet. This project is coming along nicely.

(http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r207/Chako_photo/Album%202/SAM_0787small.jpg)
Title: Re: March Break Project (Model Train Build)
Post by: Grant Lamontagne on September 03, 2011, 03:05:41 AM: This looks bad...

(http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r207/Chako_photo/Album%202/SAM_0783small.jpg)

Very bad....

:pok:

Def
Title: Re: March Break Project (Model Train Build)
Post by: Chako on September 03, 2011, 03:23:52 AM: :rofl:

They should look a little more alive tomorrow. :D
Title: Re: March Break Project (Model Train Build)
Post by: Reinier on September 03, 2011, 08:01:20 AM: Those tiny people are very colorful!

And is that an air traffic control tower in the village? :think:
Title: Re: March Break Project (Model Train Build)
Post by: Chako on September 03, 2011, 08:30:13 AM: Yes...but I was thinking more along the lines of a tourst trap scenic lookout. :D
Title: Re: March Break Project (Model Train Build)
Post by: Chako on September 03, 2011, 08:05:30 PM: Whoohoo! I just mostly finished the project. It took me a good 6 months from start to finish...but boy oh boy, this turned out a lot nicer then I thought it would. This being my first time doing anything like this. I can easily recommend any Woodland Scenics kits for anyone wanting to get into this hobby. I will also say that adding the people and the trees brought everything to life.

I was so pumped up that I took a few photographs of some of the details. :D

(http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r207/Chako_photo/Album%202/SAM_0788small.jpg)

(http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r207/Chako_photo/Album%202/SAM_0798small.jpg)

(http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r207/Chako_photo/Album%202/SAM_0797small.jpg)

(http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r207/Chako_photo/Album%202/SAM_0796small.jpg)

(http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r207/Chako_photo/Album%202/SAM_0795small.jpg)

(http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r207/Chako_photo/Album%202/SAM_0794small.jpg)

(http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r207/Chako_photo/Album%202/SAM_0793small.jpg)

(http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r207/Chako_photo/Album%202/SAM_0792small.jpg)

(http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r207/Chako_photo/Album%202/SAM_0791small.jpg)

(http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r207/Chako_photo/Album%202/SAM_0790small.jpg)

(http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r207/Chako_photo/Album%202/SAM_0789small.jpg)

(http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r207/Chako_photo/Album%202/SAM_0799small.jpg)

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Title: Re: March Break Project (Model Train Build)
Post by: AHB on September 03, 2011, 08:10:32 PM: You need a tiny dude in a (Tactical) Pink kayak Dan... :pok: :D

Excellent work though.. :salute:
Title: Re: March Break Project (Model Train Build)
Post by: Chako on September 03, 2011, 08:15:05 PM: I was thinking of buying some model water compound for two low spots on the display. I think I can swing a kayaker or two in pink. Finding a yellow jeep might be harder work. :think: :D
Title: Re: March Break Project (Model Train Build)
Post by: Gareth on September 03, 2011, 08:29:35 PM: Looks superb Dan. :cheers:
Title: Re: March Break Project (Model Train Build)
Post by: Chako on September 04, 2011, 01:39:19 AM: Thanks Gareth. I would say the whole thing was worth it in the end. A great way to showcase a train set. :D
Title: Re: March Break Project (Model Train Build)
Post by: turnsouth on September 04, 2011, 01:59:32 AM: Awesome work :tu:
Title: Re: March Break Project (Model Train Build)
Post by: Mercury on September 04, 2011, 04:16:10 AM: Great work Dan. This has been a treat to watch.
Title: Re: March Break Project (Model Train Build)
Post by: Sazabi on September 04, 2011, 03:52:49 PM: I can't believe how great it looks now; that really was a labor of love, Dan. Excellent job on the scenery, and that little bronze statue is just cool. :D
Title: Re: March Break Project (Model Train Build)
Post by: Chako on September 04, 2011, 05:39:46 PM: Thanks. The next thing I will do is to replace that working train with a passenger train. That is going to be for later. Right now, I am just enjoying the display.
Title: Re: March Break Project (Model Train Build)
Post by: Vladimir on September 04, 2011, 06:16:05 PM: Excellent work, it looks great!
Title: Re: March Break Project (Model Train Build)
Post by: Mercury on September 05, 2011, 08:05:32 PM: Awesome Vid dan. Now you should do some Narration a la Thomas and Friends! Sorry, that's all we watch in my house, my toddler is infatuated with Thomas.

Props on your work my friend.
Title: Re: March Break Project (Model Train Build)
Post by: Chako on September 06, 2011, 12:03:29 AM: You know, I am unsure if this will ever be finished. I am already planning on getting a few special props for the layout.

I had one of my friends over to show it to him. He is the guy running the HO on the shag carpet layout in an earlier post. The look on his face was priceless...so I know I did a good job. :D
Title: Re: March Break Project (Model Train Build)
Post by: turnsouth on September 06, 2011, 03:32:38 AM: Quote from: Chako on September 06, 2011, 12:03:29 AM
You know, I am unsure if this will ever be finished. I am already planning on getting a few special props for the layout.
That mountain is just crying out for an aerial tram. I'll bet the villagers would love a way to get up there and see the view :D
Title: Re: March Break Project (Model Train Build)
Post by: Screwtape on September 07, 2011, 10:06:17 AM: Great Video, I'd never quite worked out how the track looped back on itself until I watched it running, :tu:
Title: Re: March Break Project (Model Train Build)
Post by: Gareth on September 07, 2011, 11:41:20 AM: Just watched the video mate, very cool. :tu:
Title: Re: March Break Project (Model Train Build)
Post by: jan. on September 07, 2011, 01:25:47 PM: I like this :D
But now you have to lightning up everything with streetlights and outside and inside buildinglights.
Iside buslight and parkingplace-light.
Title: Re: March Break Project (Model Train Build)
Post by: Screwtape on September 07, 2011, 11:01:45 PM: Quote from: jan. on September 07, 2011, 01:25:47 PM
I like this :D
But now you have to lightning up everything with streetlights and outside and inside buildinglights.
Iside buslight and parkingplace-light.
Great idea, add lights :tu:
Title: Re: March Break Project (Model Train Build)
Post by: Chako on September 08, 2011, 12:54:03 AM: That could be added at a later date for sure. In fact, i do have some lights already purchased for that...but decided against putting them in. I just wanted it upstairs and finished by my summer holidays end. i now realize this diorama will be a work in progress for quite some time to come. A little here and a little there. :D

However, I do have another project in mind. In fact, this was going to be the first project until I realized I didn't have a clue on how to do this justice. It is what got me started in working on a larger N scale set up to help me learn the ropes.

the original idea was to build the smallest commercial train set in a suitcase. I had bought all of the items before buying the N scale kit.

With the knowledge gleamed from the first build, I am feeling a little more confident that I won't screw this up too badly.

Some of the small T Gauge track.
(http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r207/Chako_photo/Album%202/SAM_0813small.jpg)

I have to scale buildings, crossings, cars, even people.
(http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r207/Chako_photo/Album%202/SAM_0812small.jpg)

18 trees should be more than enough.
(http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r207/Chako_photo/Album%202/SAM_0811small.jpg)

This is ground zero.
(http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r207/Chako_photo/Album%202/SAM_0808small.jpg)

And here is the train. Paw thrown in for a size reference. :rofl:
(http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r207/Chako_photo/Album%202/SAM_0810small.jpg)

And here is a repost (Did I post this before?) of my T-gauge running in an oval. In the background is an N scale blue passenger car, and an HO scale Livestock car.

T guage (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hTMRPLv8O2A#)