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Tool Talk => Swiss Army Knights Forum => Topic started by: Tsquare on December 16, 2009, 03:30:03 PM
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Has anyone heard any news or rumors about a new vic plier tool? Saw something on another forum about it.
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I have been grilling some contacts at Victorinox in the US and while they know of a few new SAKs coming out, they say they know nothing about a new plier tool. I wouldn't put too much stock in that as I was the one who told them what the Spirit X was, and convinced them to import/distribute it here. It's very likely that something is being done in Switzerland that hasn't come across yet.
Def
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Fingers crossed it'll be a full size tool with Slippie blades :)
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I have been grilling some contacts at Victorinox in the US and while they know of a few new SAKs coming out, they say they know nothing about a new plier tool. I wouldn't put too much stock in that as I was the one who told them what the Spirit X was, and convinced them to import/distribute it here. It's very likely that something is being done in Switzerland that hasn't come across yet.
Def
:pok: New SAKs? Like what? :D
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Here is the email I got from the top man in the US:
Grant,
I am not certain which tools you are referring to. Here is a quick rundown of some new products. One there is a new tool for the Dutch Army ( yet unnamed) that has two one handed openings, a traditional blade and a parachute blade. Second we are extending the dual density handle into a number of the the 111 locking products in red/black. Last there are a number of electronic products, the Presentation Master is now ready and has some significant improvements from the original prototype you saw at the Shot Show last year. As well there is a new family called Victorinox Secure which have all the attributes of the Presentation Master with the exception of the Blue Tooth technology and the laser. Last there is a product we have nick named the garage door opener which can activate a variety of electronic products. I hope this helps, I can fill you in on the details at the show.
Rick
Now you know as much as I do! :D
Def
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What's a dual density handle? o.O
Out from the new models, the only one I'll be getting is the Dutch Army model, the others don't sound interesting.
A garage door opener? Huh. Yeah, give me 84mm scissors and 93mm scissors and bring back the alox Soldier and an affordable non-collectible Heritage Vic and I'll be happy. With that said, it looks like, for now, the only new Vics I "need" next year is the new Soldier, the new Dutch Soldier, and a Rescue Tool. :shrug:
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if im not wrong would "dual density" mean more 111mm with scales like the ones in the OHSoldier? but red with black details? ..........pretty please :gimme:
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What's a dual density handle? o.O
Out from the new models, the only one I'll be getting is the Dutch Army model, the others don't sound interesting.
A garage door opener? Huh. Yeah, give me 84mm scissors and 93mm scissors and bring back the alox Soldier and an affordable non-collectible Heritage Vic and I'll be happy. With that said, it looks like, for now, the only new Vics I "need" next year is the new Soldier, the new Dutch Soldier, and a Rescue Tool. :shrug:
I'm guessing the stuff the new Soldier is made out of. I totally agree with your wish list though, other than the DAK I'm not to excited and even that I'll very likely not buy.
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I wonder when Wenger is comming out with new tools. Also I can't see Vic making a new plier based multitool as the current ones are perfect as is.
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I wonder when Wenger is comming out with new tools. Also I can't see Vic making a new plier based multitool as the current ones are perfect as is.
So you don't think there is any room for something like the LM Juice range? Or a Vice grip type tool? Or perhaps something totally different?
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I have news about Wenger too... basically they say they will have nothing new at the show, with 5 (I think) new knives being released throughout the year. They are concentrating on stabilizing and promoting the existing products at the moment rather than release too much too fast. If you recall, they started this process last year, and I think it's a great idea.
Def
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Dutch Army Knife? Well, perhaps I should look into that..... as a Dutchman that is ::)
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what about this
http://www.knifeforums.com/forums/showtopic.php?tid/866001/tp/1/
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Hi
Around one month ago i asked Vic if they are planning any new SwissTool, and they sad no. I am very excited about this new knife/tool and i know absoultely nothing more. Have asked last week without any reply, they are keeping a secret for sure.
If i should make a guess it is a 111mm with an improved slide lock or new locking mechanism and maybe another steel. This is based on nothing other than feeling.
I remember when i asked them on the 111mm with slide lock that they mentioned that they was working on improving. This was in August 2008,i have not seen this improving yet?? maybe others can tell
NM :cheers:
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I'm very excited for the new DAK, will have to get one for sure.
But all these "electronicy gagety" knives, meh. Too much money for technology that won't last. 6 months and its obsolete.
I want some of the older models back, and like we always lament about, more diversity in tool combinations!
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I wonder when Wenger is comming out with new tools. Also I can't see Vic making a new plier based multitool as the current ones are perfect as is.
So you don't think there is any room for something like the LM Juice range? Or a Vice grip type tool? Or perhaps something totally different?
Oh yes that would be good. I was thinking of them changing the design or something.
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what about this
http://www.knifeforums.com/forums/showtopic.php?tid/866001/tp/1/
There has been a lot of promises in the past from a certain someone, and while he does have some contact with Victorinox, I would take a lot of what he says with a grain of salt.
Again, that's not to say something isn't in the works, I'm just saying that he isn't the most reliable source.
Def
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what about this
http://www.knifeforums.com/forums/showtopic.php?tid/866001/tp/1/
There has been a lot of promises in the past from a certain someone, and while he does have some contact with Victorinox, I would take a lot of what he says with a grain of salt.
Again, that's not to say something isn't in the works, I'm just saying that he isn't the most reliable source.
Def
No, he's not is he ::)
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The source is Victorinox itself:
http://victorinoxcms.victorinox.ch/index.cfm?site=victorinox.ch&page=107&lang=D&action=show&for_thema=Taschenmesser&for_page=1&for_msg=20091126144010
Someone has asked about new items in 2010, and Vic says there will be a new "spectacular" tool which is not an update of the Swisstool or the Spirit.
But at this time nobody knows what it will be.
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Maybe a new Sport Ratchet? :D
Def
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Maybe a new Sport Ratchet? :D
Def
quick everybody! run!!! :ahhh
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Fingers crossed it'll be a full size tool with Slippie blades :)
That would be great :) Maybe one half slip jointed with the blades on and the other half locking containing the screwdrivers like Gareth suggested a while back. I live in hope :)
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Fingers crossed it'll be a full size tool with Slippie blades :)
That would be great :) Maybe one half slip jointed with the blades on and the other half locking containing the screwdrivers like Gareth suggested a while back. I live in hope :)
Ha, I'd forgotten about that, it was a good idea wasn't it. Not like me at all. :think:
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I'm very excited for the new DAK, will have to get one for sure.
But all these "electronicy gagety" knives, meh. Too much money for technology that won't last. 6 months and its obsolete.
I want some of the older models back, and like we always lament about, more diversity in tool combinations!
Aaah planned obselecense...
Not muc good make a product so damn good as a victorinox and then realised that most people once they have one never need a second one. (Us freaks are probably 1 in 100 vic users)
Personally i would really see the folding pliers from the 120mm wenger line have a mini-me in the 85mm range, with the swissgrip replaced by the likes of the newranger 75, mike horn special etc it be nice to have the second coming of the wenger mini/pocketgrip.
Something simple a Two/three layer eg
Large Blade, Combo tool (or either a flat phillips/nail file if you want a conventional opener layer)
Folding Plier layer,
metal saw/file (or wood saw, conventional opener layer, scissors etc etc)
and they could take it that bit further and have a backsprung 4mm Bit driver and have two bits at the base of the plier layer (cybertool-stylie)
Definatelly something to fit the swiss in the 'LM Juice' category :tool:.
Why doesn't exist its like the ultimate global EDC :ahhh
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I wonder if there will be an One hand opening Locksmith(I almost put OH but spelled it out in case anyones reading).
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The source is Victorinox itself:
http://victorinoxcms.victorinox.ch/index.cfm?site=victorinox.ch&page=107&lang=D&action=show&for_thema=Taschenmesser&for_page=1&for_msg=20091126144010
Someone has asked about new items in 2010, and Vic says there will be a new "spectacular" tool which is not an update of the Swisstool or the Spirit.
But at this time nobody knows what it will be.
Slightly OT: in that cms there is a mention of a "brand-new" sharpener (#7.8714) which Vic suggests as the best for the wavy edge on Spirits, but I just can't find any info on it. ???
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I think a new sport ratchet would be cool...ONLY IF THE USE A METAL MECHANISM!
But in all honesty, its pretty much rendered "useless" by the ratchet upgrade available with the spirit. Unless you reeeeeeeeealy need the toothpick and tweezers. AND can't bear to also carry a classic :p
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Whatever it is, put me down for three of them. :)
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Would be nice if it had a one handed blade .
Dunc
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Would be nice if it had a one handed blade .
Dunc
I'm not so sure given the way the UK's probably going :-\
And besides, with the domestic, German ect ect market's banning OH, why would Vic bother ???
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So True. It could be the days of the one handed openers has passed. Legislation is just making it impossible almost everywhere. Too bad because for legitiment uses they could be very useful such as when up on a latter or any numbers of times fixing something you don't always have 2 hands available.
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Not specifically Vic related (although as a European company they might be best placed to do it), but when is somebody going to produce a proper multitool with sub 3", external opening, non locking blades and locking drivers etc?
There's a definite market for those.
As far as I know, the only MT with external, non-locking blades from the well known manufacturers is the Bear Jaws. There might be others, but I can't think of any.
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Would be nice if it had a one handed blade .
Dunc
I'm not so sure given the way the UK's probably going :-\
And besides, with the domestic, German ect ect market's banning OH, why would Vic bother ???
Thats a really good point and although a OHO would be ideal a two handed non locking would be more sensible and UK Legal . I hope were not getting our hopes up for nothing .
Dunc
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I think the US market will determine what Vic makes tbh.
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Not specifically Vic related (although as a European company they might be best placed to do it), but when is somebody going to produce a proper multitool with sub 3", external opening, non locking blades and locking drivers etc?
There's a definite market for those.
As far as I know, the only MT with external, non-locking blades from the well known manufacturers is the Bear Jaws. There might be others, but I can't think of any.
Isn't that a Juice?
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I was thinking full sized multi (4" or over) really.
But you're dead right, it makes the Juice an attractive option over here.
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I think the US market will determine what Vic makes tbh.
I agree that the US market is probably big enough to drive the production by itself, however you all forgot something important: As long as the Swiss Army contract says OH, there will be OH blades, at least on the 111mm tools.
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Not specifically Vic related (although as a European company they might be best placed to do it), but when is somebody going to produce a proper multitool with sub 3", external opening, non locking blades and locking drivers etc?
There's a definite market for those.
As far as I know, the only MT with external, non-locking blades from the well known manufacturers is the Bear Jaws. There might be others, but I can't think of any.
I've been crying out for one for years :-\