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Title: New Nylon Leatherman Sheath.... Disappointed!
Post by: NKlamerus on October 14, 2018, 04:56:12 AM
Stopped by the Leatherman Retail Store in Portland Oregon today and picked up the new model of nylon sheath. Medium size. With side pockets.

They also had medium size/no pockets, and large/with pockets. 

First issue is the size, leaves a lot of wiggle room for a Charge TI? I know for sure this is the medium size. (See last photo)

Also not sure if this is common knowledge and I missed it, but the loop on the left (facing the sheath) is much larger than the loop on the right. I'm assuming it's built to hold the bit extender. This means to grab or re-sheath a light you're trying to do it at the furthest point of the sheath. (I carry mine for RH use, about 4 ocklock and vertical)

So far the quality seems fine, just wish I could carry my flashlight on my standard side. Also wish they didn't remove the little "helper tags" on the old nylon sleeves. (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20181014/ae32bd6ea185a9519ec1ca7f41fa3cb5.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20181014/3da2b1e1b77838b25b120badc50de3ea.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20181014/04cecf770de4e72ffe36154d3907c5c5.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20181014/995792f997fd632d78ea1a538da1b9ca.jpg)
Title: Re: New Nylon Leatherman Sheath.... Disappointed!
Post by: NKlamerus on October 15, 2018, 06:40:33 AM
Carried again today. The only reason I could see for the height is to accommodate the removable lanyard ring. Which isn't worth it IMO.
Title: Re: New Nylon Leatherman Sheath.... Disappointed!
Post by: Top-Gear-24 on October 15, 2018, 09:10:28 AM
I ordered the same sheath last week and I like it.

But, I always carry my led light on the side with the large loop (to be honest, I hadn't noticed the other loop being smaller  :-[).

And I also hadn't noticed the extra "wiggle room".  I just had a look and my guess is that the extra room is there for when you carry the bit holder.  Until now I only used the sheath with my Wave +, a bit holder and my Led Lenser P3 and I thought the fit was great.  But after reading your post I took out the bit holder and only then noticed the extra room.

Just put my Charge in the sheath (since a Charge is thicker than a Wave) along with a bit card and it fits like a glove  :D.

So, my guess the extra room is for when you go for the "full option" EDC setup  ;).

Do you carry a bit holder with your Charge?
Title: Re: New Nylon Leatherman Sheath.... Disappointed!
Post by: NKlamerus on October 15, 2018, 05:50:39 PM
I ordered the same sheath last week and I like it.

But, I always carry my led light on the side with the large loop (to be honest, I hadn't noticed the other loop being smaller  :-[).

And I also hadn't noticed the extra "wiggle room".  I just had a look and my guess is that the extra room is there for when you carry the bit holder.  Until now I only used the sheath with my Wave +, a bit holder and my Led Lenser P3 and I thought the fit was great.  But after reading your post I took out the bit holder and only then noticed the extra room.

Just put my Charge in the sheath (since a Charge is thicker than a Wave) along with a bit card and it fits like a glove  :D.

So, my guess the extra room is for when you go for the "full option" EDC setup  ;).

Do you carry a bit holder with your Charge?
I do not, but I might try it just to snug it up.

Title: Re: New Nylon Leatherman Sheath.... Disappointed!
Post by: Top-Gear-24 on October 15, 2018, 10:07:41 PM
I ordered the same sheath last week and I like it.

But, I always carry my led light on the side with the large loop (to be honest, I hadn't noticed the other loop being smaller  :-[).

And I also hadn't noticed the extra "wiggle room".  I just had a look and my guess is that the extra room is there for when you carry the bit holder.  Until now I only used the sheath with my Wave +, a bit holder and my Led Lenser P3 and I thought the fit was great.  But after reading your post I took out the bit holder and only then noticed the extra room.

Just put my Charge in the sheath (since a Charge is thicker than a Wave) along with a bit card and it fits like a glove  :D.

So, my guess the extra room is for when you go for the "full option" EDC setup  ;).

Do you carry a bit holder with your Charge?
I do not, but I might try it just to snug it up.

I hope it will fix the wiggle problem, could you post the result here ?
Title: Re: New Nylon Leatherman Sheath.... Disappointed!
Post by: NKlamerus on October 16, 2018, 02:38:57 AM
I ordered the same sheath last week and I like it.

But, I always carry my led light on the side with the large loop (to be honest, I hadn't noticed the other loop being smaller  :-[).

And I also hadn't noticed the extra "wiggle room".  I just had a look and my guess is that the extra room is there for when you carry the bit holder.  Until now I only used the sheath with my Wave +, a bit holder and my Led Lenser P3 and I thought the fit was great.  But after reading your post I took out the bit holder and only then noticed the extra room.

Just put my Charge in the sheath (since a Charge is thicker than a Wave) along with a bit card and it fits like a glove  :D.

So, my guess the extra room is for when you go for the "full option" EDC setup  ;).

Do you carry a bit holder with your Charge?
I do not, but I might try it just to snug it up.

I hope it will fix the wiggle problem, could you post the result here ?
It helps little, not enough to carry the bit card IMO.

Theres still this huge gap at the top.

Photos are usual carry, minus the pry and light, lanyard ring, and then bit card. (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20181016/c9e69b5c0c01e16ecf1fceb22baa3da9.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20181016/d1abd17864613a3b9ded2527d6a908f0.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20181016/9d7ddc0e5fe4eb7af343eaa29160d343.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20181016/8571c764152288bf209f6500a51bcced.jpg)
Title: Re: New Nylon Leatherman Sheath.... Disappointed!
Post by: NKlamerus on October 16, 2018, 02:44:15 AM
I think I got ripped!!

I checked the packaging in the store at least twice, and it IS the package for the medium nylon sheath with pockets.

But my surge fits perfectly. (See photo)

Maybe someone was trying it out in store and somehow something got switched around? (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20181016/ab3b0f00883ec101e885e8e19b8d7b5a.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20181016/ca1ead2e0a6d6e827aa2a90cbd682043.jpg)

Also, the numbers don't match between sheath and packaging, not sure if that's normal (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20181016/199ca918578b022e64f5264e4bb10b0c.jpg)
Title: Re: New Nylon Leatherman Sheath.... Disappointed!
Post by: NKlamerus on October 16, 2018, 02:47:17 AM
There is supposed to be a half inch difference according to the website.

Can someone look inside their sheath and post the part number?

Mine is 946762. Which does show up as medium when searched online. (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20181016/97e384dde367a7f72ce8f2fdb1727870.jpg)
Title: Re: New Nylon Leatherman Sheath.... Disappointed!
Post by: NKlamerus on October 16, 2018, 02:55:53 AM
What a run around!! I called the retail store as the offices are closed already. Lady behind the counter mentioned maybe it had been packaged wrong?!

She couldn't confirm that this was a large sheath, but the ending numbers "933" is large and "932" is medium on the plastic packing.

I was told to call their offices tomorrow and ask about a replacement or new purchase.
Title: Re: New Nylon Leatherman Sheath.... Disappointed!
Post by: NKlamerus on October 16, 2018, 05:31:57 PM
Alright everybody, check your sheaths!

I was forwarded to customer service, and I was the 3rd person to call with the exact same issue.

They are sending out a replacement now!
Title: Re: New Nylon Leatherman Sheath.... Disappointed!
Post by: Mechanickal on October 16, 2018, 05:42:21 PM
:facepalm:
Title: Re: New Nylon Leatherman Sheath.... Disappointed!
Post by: NKlamerus on October 19, 2018, 04:17:42 AM
Hoping the replacement would come today but it hasn't!!

If it's not here tomorrow I'll call them on Monday I suppose.

I live 2 hours away, mail should take a day at most.
Title: Re: New Nylon Leatherman Sheath.... Disappointed!
Post by: NKlamerus on October 21, 2018, 11:53:19 PM
Still ain't here....
Title: Re: New Nylon Leatherman Sheath.... Disappointed!
Post by: NKlamerus on October 29, 2018, 02:50:03 AM
Well. Well. Well. I stopped by the retail store, turns out the medium sheaths are actually built for the Surge. And the Large sheaths are built for a brick.

I still picked up another new sheath with pockets and a new "premium" sheath.
Title: Re: New Nylon Leatherman Sheath.... Disappointed!
Post by: NKlamerus on October 29, 2018, 05:00:28 AM
From the outside all the sheaths look the same, but between the newest sheath (2nd one in from the right) it's just a lot looser. There's a little wiggle space in the "premium sheath" but the tool doesn't bounce around. (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20181029/9022f0794a743983709c1bb296b3e093.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20181029/6d825b085b064bd5fa3d880bb7c2bba7.jpg)
Title: Re: New Nylon Leatherman Sheath.... Disappointed!
Post by: Top-Gear-24 on October 29, 2018, 12:59:19 PM
Well. Well. Well. I stopped by the retail store, turns out the medium sheaths are actually built for the Surge. And the Large sheaths are built for a brick.

I still picked up another new sheath with pockets and a new "premium" sheath.

Wait, they are saying that the medium nylon sheath (the model with the side pockets) is built for the Surge ... ?  :think:

I bought one of those new style nylon sheaths with side pockets in size medium (product code 934932) and it fits perfect for my Wave +, I tried to put my Surge in it but it would only go in half way ...


Here are some pics of my medium size nylon sheath with my Wave + and one bit card in it:

(https://i.imgur.com/53xdkDh.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/zvTqDqD.jpg)

And here's a pic of the same sheath with my Surge "in" it (he wouldn't go any further in):

(https://i.imgur.com/nmej3WW.jpg)

The box has produkt code 934932 on it, and the black sticker inside the sheath says "LTG PART 946762 SHEATH MADE IN CHINA", I always remove those black stickers and stick them on the box or blister from the sheath/tool, as you can see in the pics.

This is quite confusing  :shrug:.



Title: Re: New Nylon Leatherman Sheath.... Disappointed!
Post by: JBW1 on October 29, 2018, 08:00:30 PM
I guess that is 1 plus side to the crappy Velcro, you can snug it up..... for a while at least. An extra hole would be helpful for different size applications, but would look kinda weird. I’ll take that “medium” surge size sheath off your hands NK :pok: :D
Title: Re: New Nylon Leatherman Sheath.... Disappointed!
Post by: NKlamerus on October 30, 2018, 01:01:29 AM
I'll pull out the sheaths and see what I can find on the stickers, I was really hoping to have more time in the shop to compare size but it was 5:59 and they closed at 6!

Lady behind the counter had no clue

JBW1 I'll definitely be getting rid of one at this point

Still need to contact Leatherman about the missing sheath
Title: Re: New Nylon Leatherman Sheath.... Disappointed!
Post by: NKlamerus on October 30, 2018, 02:05:27 PM
I haven't had a chance to look at numbers yet, but what if the extra space is to account for the Rebar?
Title: Re: New Nylon Leatherman Sheath.... Disappointed!
Post by: NKlamerus on November 02, 2018, 01:51:26 AM
Even with the bit card, which takes up some of the slack, the sheath is still loose, but better.

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20181102/42cb375559a0b253c71b62caed7b50f9.jpg)
Title: Re: New Nylon Leatherman Sheath.... Disappointed!
Post by: NKlamerus on November 02, 2018, 05:10:53 AM
Well. Well. Well. I stopped by the retail store, turns out the medium sheaths are actually built for the Surge. And the Large sheaths are built for a brick.

I still picked up another new sheath with pockets and a new "premium" sheath.

Wait, they are saying that the medium nylon sheath (the model with the side pockets) is built for the Surge ... ?  :think:

I bought one of those new style nylon sheaths with side pockets in size medium (product code 934932) and it fits perfect for my Wave +, I tried to put my Surge in it but it would only go in half way ...


Here are some pics of my medium size nylon sheath with my Wave + and one bit card in it:

(https://i.imgur.com/53xdkDh.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/zvTqDqD.jpg)

And here's a pic of the same sheath with my Surge "in" it (he wouldn't go any further in):

(https://i.imgur.com/nmej3WW.jpg)

The box has produkt code 934932 on it, and the black sticker inside the sheath says "LTG PART 946762 SHEATH MADE IN CHINA", I always remove those black stickers and stick them on the box or blister from the sheath/tool, as you can see in the pics.

This is quite confusing  :shrug:.
My surge in my "medium" sized sheaths. Look how far down it slides, this is with no bit kit, just the extra saw set. Same exact sticker on the sheath and blister pack.  (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20181102/513588c50b2b282716405d937c4fc551.jpg)
Title: Re: New Nylon Leatherman Sheath.... Disappointed!
Post by: NKlamerus on November 02, 2018, 05:17:31 AM
Wave on the left/top, surge on the right/bottom (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20181102/00088f4f95a4fd367de97f2ea5831113.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20181102/2d06de597b61207e5595c5e5d2f77b17.jpg)
Title: Re: New Nylon Leatherman Sheath.... Disappointed!
Post by: NKlamerus on November 03, 2018, 10:27:07 PM
Alright I swung by a local knife shop today, they had the new sheaths in. But no pockets.

I bought a medium no pocket and THIS is the perfect fit. Going to call Leatherman this week to figure out why my replacement never showed up!

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20181103/d5ebc3ccbbec5badbc934d0ee9fb7c5a.jpg)
Title: Re: New Nylon Leatherman Sheath.... Disappointed!
Post by: Top-Gear-24 on November 03, 2018, 10:48:06 PM
I would expect a mix-up like that over here, but not on Leatherman's home soil  :think:.

Anyway, I hope you still get your real medium sized sheath with the side-pockets, because that one is real nice  :tu:.
Title: Re: New Nylon Leatherman Sheath.... Disappointed!
Post by: NKlamerus on November 04, 2018, 12:37:59 AM
I would expect a mix-up like that over here, but not on Leatherman's home soil  :think:.

Anyway, I hope you still get your real medium sized sheath with the side-pockets, because that one is real nice  :tu:.
Yeah and their one and only retail store of all places
Title: Re: New Nylon Leatherman Sheath.... Disappointed!
Post by: SteveC on November 05, 2018, 05:40:42 AM
Sounds like they have some mislabeled packaging   :facepalm:
Title: Re: New Nylon Leatherman Sheath.... Disappointed!
Post by: NKlamerus on November 08, 2018, 02:21:51 AM
Look what finally came in! (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20181108/c69a8fbba1844448200cc1d0e54f52f6.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20181108/8a0473c59ab595632c351af7d1e036a5.jpg)
Title: Re: New Nylon Leatherman Sheath.... Disappointed!
Post by: NKlamerus on November 08, 2018, 05:29:12 AM
Differences are very subtle. Medium on the left/top and large on the right/bottom. (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20181108/4d2296b1ac04a7c6353342cf8740e11b.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20181108/f62e41a9ba23bac10bb29de771815457.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20181108/879d4b07c57fba45b1c5979cbe67154d.jpg)
Title: Re: New Nylon Leatherman Sheath.... Disappointed!
Post by: Dutch_Tooler on November 08, 2018, 09:18:59 AM
Um yes. One can see why the packers could get confused. :think:
Vic solved this problem long ago with different colours of trim (see Swisstool vs Spirit nylon sheaths). Maybe a tip for LM? It could be as simple as a reversed colour scheme on the sewed-on logo...
Title: Re: New Nylon Leatherman Sheath.... Disappointed!
Post by: JBW1 on November 08, 2018, 01:30:00 PM
Or an M or L sticker. The Quality Control guys could slap one on somewhere when.. or if.. they check them out??
Title: Re: New Nylon Leatherman Sheath.... Disappointed!
Post by: Top-Gear-24 on November 08, 2018, 08:18:03 PM
There's already the black sticker with the "made in China" and the LTG part number on the inside, but when the put the wrong sticker in the sheath ...  ::)

Um yes. One can see why the packers could get confused. :think:
Vic solved this problem long ago with different colours of trim (see Swisstool vs Spirit nylon sheaths). Maybe a tip for LM? It could be as simple as a reversed colour scheme on the sewed-on logo...

The sheaths look very alike, and the only difference is about 1 or 1.5 cm in length, but still, this shouldn't be a problem for the packers (if they know what they're doing, at least).  Leather sheaths (or stiffer Nylon, like the Nylon Vic sheaths) are easier to tell the difference in size.  With the "new" nylon Leatherman sheaths it's harder since you can change the shape of them a bit.  I mean, when I place my medium sized sheath on my workdesk, and I apply some pressure on it the sheath flattens and seem to become a bit longer.  That might be enough to mix them up.

With the previous Nylon sheaths from Leatherman , you could tell the difference since the large sized sheath had a cut-out on the top so you could put a bigger (longer) flashlight in the side pocket, and the medium sheath did not have this, else, they would've had the same problem I guess.
Title: Re: New Nylon Leatherman Sheath.... Disappointed!
Post by: NKlamerus on October 22, 2020, 03:23:48 PM
Has anyone bought one of these recently? I need a new medium sheath. I'm using a "medium" for my wave right now and it's super loose in there. (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20201022/9da4daafefd5ddfa958183bdeeb2b79f.jpg)
Title: Re: New Nylon Leatherman Sheath.... Disappointed!
Post by: McStitchy on October 26, 2020, 11:06:08 AM
I've bought the 4 pocket ones some 2 years ago, like you I guess. And had the exact same problem.
Because I've bought a Medium and a Large I can say that it was NOT a labelling issue.
They were both differently made in respect to sizing and placing of buttons etc. Still, the Medium one was nearly as long.

The Medium sheath was quite a bit too long, while the Large sheath could have been a bit longer (had to stretch it to fit my Surge plus bits).
Title: Re: New Nylon Leatherman Sheath.... Disappointed!
Post by: McStitchy on October 26, 2020, 11:09:40 AM
I've solved the problem with the Medium sheath the "McStichy" way  :D

Wave and Rebar fit perfectly in now.
Title: Re: New Nylon Leatherman Sheath.... Disappointed!
Post by: Don Pablo on October 26, 2020, 11:27:13 AM
Colourful. :D :like:
Title: Re: New Nylon Leatherman Sheath.... Disappointed!
Post by: Top-Gear-24 on October 26, 2020, 12:17:32 PM
I've bought the 4 pocket ones some 2 years ago, like you I guess. And had the exact same problem.
Because I've bought a Medium and a Large I can say that it was NOT a labelling issue.
They were both differently made in respect to sizing and placing of buttons etc. Still, the Medium one was nearly as long.

The Medium sheath was quite a bit too long, while the Large sheath could have been a bit longer (had to stretch it to fit my Surge plus bits).

Can't explain what went wrong, all I know is that NKlamerus his Medium sheath could hold his Surge, while mine could not...

Maybe they scr*wed up a batch (or all of them in the beginning and mine came from a new badge, who knows?

Anyway, I'm still happy with mine.

It is best to put the bit card in it along with the Charge/Wave, or else it's a bit loose (but nothing like the ones you guys got).  But that was the idea of this sheath when I bought it (to carry a Charge/Wave with bit card and bit extender). 

Only thing I find a bit weird is the fact that, from time to time, there are these thin red pieces of sewing thread on the side of the sheath, which can be pulled out without having to cut them, still, no idea where they come from.
Title: Re: New Nylon Leatherman Sheath.... Disappointed!
Post by: McStitchy on October 26, 2020, 02:43:44 PM
Colourful. :D :like:

Thanks Pabs  :hatsoff:

I was mad at that stupid sheath so wanted to make a point...  :D

(https://media1.giphy.com/media/wn9HU1Lrd7wxa/giphy.gif?cid=82a1493bnmv7hrtxfn0t6vn27m8mn5snticlz3nqu6i37bcs&rid=giphy.gif)
Title: Re: New Nylon Leatherman Sheath.... Disappointed!
Post by: McStitchy on October 26, 2020, 02:48:41 PM
Can't explain what went wrong, all I know is that NKlamerus his Medium sheath could hold his Surge, while mine could not...

Maybe they scr*wed up a batch (or all of them in the beginning and mine came from a new badge, who knows?

Anyway, I'm still happy with mine.

It is best to put the bit card in it along with the Charge/Wave, or else it's a bit loose (but nothing like the ones you guys got).  But that was the idea of this sheath when I bought it (to carry a Charge/Wave with bit card and bit extender). 

Only thing I find a bit weird is the fact that, from time to time, there are these thin red pieces of sewing thread on the side of the sheath, which can be pulled out without having to cut them, still, no idea where they come from.

From your reply I assume this problem has been fixed  :tu:
Title: Re: New Nylon Leatherman Sheath.... Disappointed!
Post by: Top-Gear-24 on October 26, 2020, 04:32:20 PM
From your reply I assume this problem has been fixed  :tu:

That would be the most logical assumption, if only I hadn't bought the sheath in question two years ago, round the same time that NKlamerus got his...

 :whistle:
Title: Re: New Nylon Leatherman Sheath.... Disappointed!
Post by: Mechanickal on October 26, 2020, 04:50:40 PM
I have 3 Skinths...
Life is beautiful :dd:
Title: Re: New Nylon Leatherman Sheath.... Disappointed!
Post by: Don Pablo on October 26, 2020, 05:38:23 PM
I have 1 Skinth. Life is almost beautiful.  :cry:
Title: Re: New Nylon Leatherman Sheath.... Disappointed!
Post by: McStitchy on October 26, 2020, 06:23:37 PM
I have no Skinth... but Ireland is beautiful?  :dunno:
Title: Re: New Nylon Leatherman Sheath.... Disappointed!
Post by: Mechanickal on October 31, 2020, 09:21:36 AM
:facepalm:
Title: Re: New Nylon Leatherman Sheath.... Disappointed!
Post by: NKlamerus on September 13, 2021, 01:10:39 AM
Anyone bought one recently? Came up on Facebook and Reddit a couple times
Title: Re: New Nylon Leatherman Sheath.... Disappointed!
Post by: McStitchy on September 13, 2021, 09:24:13 AM
My latest is from 11/2018 and is the same.
So 10 month after my example above.