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Title: Working on my Condor
Post by: Smashie on September 09, 2017, 10:42:43 AM
I've had a Condor Bushlore for a few years now and it has proved to be a very sturdy knife that's comfortable to use. It does however have a couple of drawbacks or room for improvement.

First some stats

Brand:Condor
Blade Material:Carbon Steel
Blade Length (cm):   
10.7
Blade Thickness (cm):   
0.3
Overall Length (cm):   
24.1
Handle Material:   
Wood
Blade Shape:   
Spear Point
Blade Type:   
Plain
Grind:   
Scandi
Sheath:   
Leather
Product Weight (g):   173

The main issue I've always had with it is it's NOT a Scandi grind, it looks like it but it ain't. It's actually a very shallow hollow grind. Now for years I've done what I've always gone and put a secondary bevel on it. That worked fine, but it really is time the blade had the grind it's supposed to.

Blade before I started last night

(https://image.ibb.co/bQjNia/20170906_080644742_i_OS.jpg)

and after the first round of sharpening

(https://image.ibb.co/bVzBbv/20170908_221435144_i_OS.jpg)

and the third

(https://preview.ibb.co/icGDpF/20170909_080335755_i_OS.jpg) (https://ibb.co/nbT4wv)

Now hopefully you can see the hollow grind slowly getting ground away. I'm going to do some more on this after the boy has played football.

I'm a bit limited in that I only have two waterstones 800 and 6000

Title: Re: Working on my Condor
Post by: AimlessWanderer on September 09, 2017, 01:23:23 PM
That must be a tedious chore with just a 800 grit waterstone. It's coming along well though  :tu:

Is now too late to let you know I have some coarser diamond stones you can borrow?  :whistle:
Title: Re: Working on my Condor
Post by: styx on September 09, 2017, 03:30:08 PM
Nice job :tu:
How long did it take you?
Title: Re: Working on my Condor
Post by: Aloha on September 09, 2017, 03:33:06 PM
Looks good so far.  I hesitate to say you can use sand paper on a very flat surface. 
Title: Re: Working on my Condor
Post by: Sparky415 on September 09, 2017, 04:21:24 PM

You know you are always welcome to use my garage  :pok:

You can lock the kid in my back garden with an axe and some 4x2  :salute:

Good luck with the work Mate  :cheers:
Title: Re: Working on my Condor
Post by: Poncho65 on September 09, 2017, 04:51:30 PM
That edge is coming along beautifully, Smashie :dd: :like: :like:
Title: Re: Working on my Condor
Post by: Smashie on September 09, 2017, 06:28:02 PM
That must be a tedious chore with just a 800 grit waterstone. It's coming along well though  :tu:

Is now too late to let you know I have some coarser diamond stones you can borrow?  :whistle:

Now he tells me! TBH I thought I had a courser stone

Nice job :tu:
How long did it take you?

About an hour last night of sharpening, but 3 hours getting the stones soaked. They're new and the 6000 takes ages

Looks good so far.  I hesitate to say you can use sand paper on a very flat surface. 

I did think about that but I'm very limited for space and my granite block (old kitchen worktop) is in the storage unit 2 miles from here.


You know you are always welcome to use my garage  :pok:

You can lock the kid in my back garden with an axe and some 4x2  :salute:

Good luck with the work Mate  :cheers:

Cheers Tony  :salute:


That edge is coming along beautifully, Smashie :dd: :like: :like:

And you Poncho  :salute:
Title: Re: Working on my Condor
Post by: Smashie on September 14, 2017, 07:28:16 PM
Right, confession time, the job isn't as straight forward as I thought it would be. Namely I've had to hand file blooming great chunks out of the blade where the plunge meets the ricasso. These are obviously ground on a wheel at the factory. So the 800 grit ain't cutting it, literally. 400 grit arrives tomorrow and more progress should be made!
Title: Re: Working on my Condor
Post by: styx on September 15, 2017, 08:48:58 AM
At times like these I bet it would help to have a grinder
Title: Re: Working on my Condor
Post by: Smashie on September 15, 2017, 10:13:55 AM
At times like these I bet it would help to have a grinder

You're probably right, but I've got this far and I ain't quitting now  :tu:
Title: Re: Working on my Condor
Post by: Zed on September 15, 2017, 10:18:22 AM
At times like these I bet it would help to have a grinder

There pretty cheap and speed things up ,only had mine a week and I've gone grind mad  :rofl:
Title: Re: Working on my Condor
Post by: Smashie on September 15, 2017, 10:19:40 AM
At times like these I bet it would help to have a grinder

There pretty cheap and speed things up ,only had mine a week and I've gone grind mad  :rofl:

And that is exactly what worries me I wont have any blades left, just nubs!
Title: Re: Working on my Condor
Post by: magentus on September 15, 2017, 10:28:36 AM
 :rofl:

Which nub did you carry today?

What's the best nub for urban EDC?

 :rofl:
Title: Re: Working on my Condor
Post by: Zed on September 15, 2017, 10:47:23 AM
I'm working on a nice friction folder nub, I'm sure it will be uk legal  :rofl:
Title: Re: Working on my Condor
Post by: Smashie on September 15, 2017, 10:57:46 AM
Aaaand the 400 grit arrived, bigger than I was expecting so Ive put a SC in for scale

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170915/31aa6b89e93ee17b246ae10a6b21ac54.jpg)
Title: Re: Working on my Condor
Post by: Zed on September 15, 2017, 11:00:41 AM
Wow thats a brick Smashie  :D hopefully that will help  :salute:
Title: Re: Working on my Condor
Post by: AimlessWanderer on September 15, 2017, 12:09:06 PM
Aaaand the 400 grit arrived, bigger than I was expecting so Ive put a SC in for scale

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170915/31aa6b89e93ee17b246ae10a6b21ac54.jpg)

Awesome!  :D
Title: Re: Working on my Condor
Post by: Smashie on September 15, 2017, 12:22:26 PM
Aaaand the 400 grit arrived, bigger than I was expecting so Ive put a SC in for scale

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170915/31aa6b89e93ee17b246ae10a6b21ac54.jpg)

Awesome!  :D

90 minutes later and it's still got bubbles coming out of it (the stone in the water bath)
Title: Re: Working on my Condor
Post by: AimlessWanderer on September 15, 2017, 12:29:18 PM
I wouldn't worry. After 90 minutes in a swimming pool, there's still bubbles coming out of my arse  :whistle:

There's a good reason that I've never tried scuba diving...
(http://img0.joyreactor.com/pics/post/demotivation-posters-auto-275474.jpeg)
Title: Re: Working on my Condor
Post by: ducttapetech on September 15, 2017, 01:22:25 PM
 :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

Can't wait to see the results!
Title: Re: Working on my Condor
Post by: styx on September 15, 2017, 08:14:36 PM
At times like these I bet it would help to have a grinder

There pretty cheap and speed things up ,only had mine a week and I've gone grind mad  :rofl:

And that is exactly what worries me I wont have any blades left, just nubs!

Not an issue if you start with a 12" blade
Title: Re: Working on my Condor
Post by: Zed on September 16, 2017, 02:18:56 AM
At times like these I bet it would help to have a grinder

There pretty cheap and speed things up ,only had mine a week and I've gone grind mad  :rofl:

And that is exactly what worries me I wont have any blades left, just nubs!

Not an issue if you start with a 12" blade

 :rofl:
Title: Re: Working on my Condor
Post by: styx on September 16, 2017, 09:46:33 AM
Smashie's bushcraft knife making process - take a 18" machete, grind a bit and cool in the same lake where Excalibur was found, sent to Zed for a fancy handle and sheath and voila you've got an amazingly thin 3.5" bushlore clone ;)

Oddly enough I think that would sell fairly well. Considering that a modified putty knife also makes a decent little knife, this might not be such a bad idea
Title: Re: Working on my Condor
Post by: Smashie on September 16, 2017, 11:28:48 AM
Funny, I thought the point of what I was doing was to correct what I perceive as defects by removing the least amount of metal possible.