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Tool Talk => SOG Tool Forum => Topic started by: J-sews on December 24, 2007, 01:48:37 AM
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It just arrived yesterday!! :cheers: Been salivating for one of these since they started showing up on the 'net earlier this year. Dang expensive though! >:( Price is still up over $110 everywhere I looked.
PT-540:
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v307/jooliesews/Bobbys/PT-540a.jpg)
Jeez-o-petes is this thing ever a whopper! Somehow I'd assumed it was built on the same frame as the PowerLock? But nope, she's a full half inch bigger at least. (Imagine the jump from PST to Super Tool. Now jump that much more!) :o
Here it is alongside a PowerLock:
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v307/jooliesews/Bobbys/PT-540b.jpg)
I haven't done anything with it yet except to play with it, and take these photos. Boy, there sure are a lot of intricate features! Wire stripper notches in the jaws, gear covers, cast metal blade lock releases, new handle-flapper stops, hex drives, etc. Whew, I may have to break down and actually look at the user's guide! :P
But I digress. Here's a pic of the PT-540 alongside some tools previously considered to be "big".
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v307/jooliesews/Bobbys/PT-540c.jpg)
Another couple angles of the police line-up: :police:
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v307/jooliesews/Bobbys/PT-540d.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v307/jooliesews/Bobbys/PT-540e.jpg)
Okay, enough beauty shots, time for some real action. There's an electrical box downstairs that has just been begging for a 4-way outlet.... :)
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Bob, I have one of those coming too! Now I wish I did over-night shipping!
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No wonder they are so pricey- that monstrosity has more steel than most modern cars!
Def
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Wow that thing looks cool. Great pics!
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I've been wanting one of those forever. But I've also been wanting a PPP, so I might just get the smaller Paladin, to save some money!
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LOL, yeah they are pretty expensive- I bought mine for like a 110 usd
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Wow tht thing is awesome. If I could get one of those in australia, I'd be ordering one right away.
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And I thought the Powerlock was a hand filler,even for someone my size.I'm going to ask my daughter to check out the Menard's in her part of the world.
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Mate that thing looks awesome! I love big tools (oi oi! :D) and that thing looks huge. :o In fact everything that attracted my to the powerlock is here but looks even better.
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that is niiice! who needs a tool box! and great pictures J-sews.
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How much (more or less) is the cost of Paladin? I'm just curious. I may be able to buy that in the near future.
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If you are comparing to the powerlock, Tim sells them for just under $70 I think which is quite a bit less than the Paladin.
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Blimey, that really is one big tool aint it :o I remember saying to Dunc that I didn't like the Free hand because it was just that little bit too big for belt carry, well next to that it makes the free hand look like an MP400 :o
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Here's a picture of Bob with the PT-540 in it's handy sheath:
(http://www.math.duke.edu/~blake/troop412/photos/Camporee_Apr02/backpack.jpg)
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Here's a picture of Bob with the PT-540 in it's handy sheath:
(http://www.math.duke.edu/~blake/troop412/photos/Camporee_Apr02/backpack.jpg)
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:D Probably not that wide of the mark :D
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Here's a picture of Bob with the PT-540 in it's handy sheath:
(http://www.math.duke.edu/~blake/troop412/photos/Camporee_Apr02/backpack.jpg)
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That blue thing on top is the hex bit adapter! :P
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Very nice indeed! I too have been wanting one of those for quite some time. I'm kinda surprised at the massive size of the thing. Now its got me wondering if SOG is basing the yet to be released Powerassist on the "smaller" Powerlock frame or this larger Paladin one???
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Hi Bob,
This is a great addition to your collection. I got one some time ago and found it fascinating (and darn big).
Merry Christmas to all.
Joe :multi:
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With all the holiday duties going on there hasn't been any opportunities to put the PT-540 to work. In the mean time I've been comparing it to a regular PowerLock. Lots of improvements, some obvious, some subtle. Here's two:
I'm not a real big fan of the SOG "flappers" - those grip protectors that are on the PowerLock handles. The PT-540 has them too of course, but they are much improved. The metal is formed into shape more crisply, there are detents that hold the flappers closed more securely, and there are little stop-tabs stamped out of the handle metal that prevent the flappers from being bent in too far. All worthwhile improvements! :)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v307/jooliesews/Bobbys/PT-540f.jpg)
Blade locks are made from cast metal instead of stamped. They now ride "inboard" on the handles, instead of hanging over the sides.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v307/jooliesews/Bobbys/PT-540g.jpg)
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Somehow I'd assumed it was built on the same frame as the PowerLock? But nope, she's a full half inch bigger at least.
The PT-525 is based on the PowerLock but the PT-540 is another breed. Here's a link to an old topic with a photo of the PT-540 next to the PT-525: http://forum.multitool.org/index.php/topic,802.0.html (http://forum.multitool.org/index.php/topic,802.0.html) (comparison photo is on page two)
And here's an excerpt from that post:
Here's a photo of the PT-540 and the PT-525 side by side.
Whoa! I didn't realize the 540 was so much bigger than the 525! That thing must be approaching the Surge in the size and weight catagory.
Like Mike D, I've also wondered whether the PowerAssist (see photo below) will be based on the PowerLock or a larger frame like the PT-540. The pliers on the PowerLock 2.0 are nearly identical to the pliers on the PT-525.
I've had my PT-540 for about a year now and I'm happy with it overall. Here are a couple of quibbles: 1. The wire cutter isn't as good as the wire cutter on the PT-525. 2. The cast lock releases are prone to rust (I recommend putting a light coat of RenWax on them to prevent rust). 3. The hex wrenches on the handles require a lot of clearance. 4. The hex wrenches stick out from the handles so the handle isn't as comfortable to grip when using the internal tools (in comparison to the PT-525 and the SOG PowerLock).
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Yep, all is not wonderful with the PT-540. :-\
One thing that I found disappointing is the blades and tools. Despite having LOTS more room in those oversized handles, the blades are all standard SOG length. The knife blade, the file, the saw blade: each one of them should be about 1/2" longer than they are.
What's the sense of having longer handles if the blades inside them are all standard length?
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The ability to use off the shelf parts?
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The ability to use off the shelf parts?
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The PT-540 will accept any of the off-the-shelf SOG implements.
But its so BIIIIGGG!! It just seems like they should have put some bigger-than-standard tools in it. Y'know, like screwdrivers with extra long reach. Or a saw blade with an extra half-inch of stroke. Important things all.
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Good reports on the PT 540, thanks!
I too wish they would do away with the flappers completely, why not just go Swisstool like and put all of the tools on the outside of the handles where they should be so you don't have to open the plier to access them. It looks like from the picture of the Powerassist that half the tool is going to be like this anyway, so come on SOG just make both handles the same and ditch the flappers once and for all. AND, if I'm going to wish for things why not take the whole powerassist idea one step further by putting not just one blade, but two blades (one straight and one serrated) on the outside position of the handles with thumbstuds and powerassist, and on the other handle rig up a very long bladed saw and some big usable scissors with the same setup?? Sound good? Does to me...I would love to be able to just flick open my most used tools :drink:
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I don't like multitools with flappers. Can the flappers of SOG MTs be easily remove?
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not just one blade, but two blades (one straight and one serrated) on the outside position of the handles with thumbstuds and powerassist, and on the other handle rig up a very long bladed saw and some big usable scissors with the same setup??
Like a Surge you mean? ::)
Does SOG make special run designs for any other companies?
I don't have a lot of use for electrical tools.
Except maybe crimpers and wire strippers, for 12v stuff, and I suppose I could use a drywall cutter once in a while, and maybe I'd use those Punchdown blades more often if I knew what they were :think:
REGARDLESS, the question stands.
In other issues - I've never had flappers. They seem somewhat inconvenient for the hasty gentleman, (as do inside opening blades) - still, all that "used by the military, Yay!" advertising is getting to me...maybe I need one?
(I've yet to see anyone on a .mil site mention them though, they seem to spend more time talking about the most comfortable boots, and whether or not moustaches should be allowed)
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I don't like multitools with flappers. Can the flappers of SOG MTs be easily remove?
The covers are easy to remove and replace without any tools. They just snap into place. But without the covers, the pliers will have the same ergonomic flaw as the old Leatherman tools. The predecessors to the PowerLock, the Power Plier (e.g. T52 and T65), lacked the covers. The Power Plier is in the middle of the photo.
(http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u298/supratentorial/DSC02009.jpg)
It was also available in stainless if gold isn't your style. ;)
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...I've yet to see anyone on a .mil site mention them though, they seem to spend more time talking about the most comfortable boots, and whether or not moustaches should be allowed...
Are you going to keep us in suspense? What are the most comfortable boots? :pok:
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not just one blade, but two blades (one straight and one serrated) on the outside position of the handles with thumbstuds and powerassist, and on the other handle rig up a very long bladed saw and some big usable scissors with the same setup??
Like a Surge you mean? ::)
Well yes and no. All the tools accessible without opening the pliers, with the blades, scissors and saw all being powerassisted.
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Well yes and no. All the tools accessible without opening the pliers, with the blades, scissors and saw all being powerassisted.
Seems like one flaw in the PowerAssist is that there are only two blades in the one entire handle. :(
Must be the powerassist mechanism takes up a lot of space?
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I always thought AO blades were best when the knife could be in hand and situated the way you want it within 2 seconds or so...the Powerassist needs to be unsheathed, then you have to feel around for the side with the blades, then you have to know which blade you're going to deploy...
It's a good idea, but not good enough to forfeit a handle full of drivers/an awl/bit driver/etc...
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I just joined this forum and, wow, what a great resource! All the questions I asked Supratentorial about regarding the PT-540 is answered in this thread. Greta pics too! I was glad to be informed that the blades are not any longer than on the Powerlock - that's unfortunate. Its still a very impressive MT! I also noticed only one square tool cover stop on Supratentorial's PT-540 handles and two on J-sews PT-540 so it shows that they're slowly improving it as they go. If only they would design a tool lock good enough to make all the tools accessible with the handles closed. The current SOG/PT locking mechanism apparently doesn't provide enough locking power so safety is an issue (don't want the tools, especially a blade closing on some fingers!) However, Victorinox made a good enough lock so their tools open without opening the handles. Gerber even did it with their Freehand. Now its SOG's turn.
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Good eye for small details there Carl. Must say I agree with you on where SOG should focus their efforts. Everyone agrees that they make fine quality tools, better in many respects than their competitors. Yet most folks seriously dislike the number of steps required to access a PowerLock knife blade.
If only SOG could work on improving that a bit....... :-\
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Yeah, I totally agree. SOG makes a very fine Extraordinary ( no pun intended!) multi-tool. But the design is old old old technology. Seriously, look at the locks-how simple are they, or the 'doors' just to cover up the old technology! I personally think SOG can make some of the best tools! But, they have to stop with the dated designs!!!
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Just out of curiosity, has anyone here spoken with SOG about their dated locks? What was their response? Does SOG know that their design priority needs to be placed on their locks rather than on nice but non-essential features such as power-assist, etc. ?
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Just out of curiosity, has anyone here spoken with SOG about their dated locks? What was their response? Does SOG know that their design priority needs to be placed on their locks rather than on nice but non-essential features such as power-assist, etc. ?
For better or for worse, SOG placed their design priority on locks last year. The result was "piano locks" like the ones shown below.
(picture from SOG website)
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Agreed that they needed to upgrade the locks, but I hope they come up with a better steel for the cutting edge on the now powerplay. Unfortunatly I feel that the steel used now is really substandard.(not that tools are known for really having great steel.) Vic, and leatherman really did themselves a favor by sticking with good steel on hte Vic, and great steel on the leatherman in 154C
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For better or for worse, SOG placed their design priority on locks last year. The result was "piano locks" like the ones shown below.
(picture from SOG website)
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Oh well (sigh).........I guess we're in for inside opening tools rather than outside openers for a good while to come.
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I'm wondering if there are some design patents on it that prevent everyone doing it?
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I was wondering the same thing. After all, there's only so many different ways to design a lock while keeping it compact yet effective. I was hoping the Paladin folks could design something since they seem to have some influence on their version of MTs.
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Just saw a previous Leatherman design contest. If SOG initiated one for their locks to open their tools from the outside, I would like to participate. Is this just a dumb idea, an unsolicited offer to SOG that they don't want? I wonder if I should email them and find out. Any moderators here have any opinion on this? thanks
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SOG usually keeps their design creativity pretty close to home. Hopefully they will realize the advantages of outside opening blades with the advent of the PowerAssist, and focus some of their expertise on flipping the handles around on the rest of their tools. Outside opening blades on SOG's are an idea that is long overdue.
(Anything to get rid of those silly flaps on the handles!) :P
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I might be getting a PT-525 soon, but what I really want is a 510.
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Hopefully they will realize the advantages of outside opening blades with the advent of the PowerAssist, and focus some of their expertise on flipping the handles around on the rest of their tools.
(Anything to get rid of those silly flaps on the handles!) :P
We can only hope...........
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Either I'm looking in all the wrong places or this MT is really hard to attain from European retailers :(
Normally if it's not directly imported to Scandinavia, Germany is your best shot at trying to get a hold of nifty US export items. But that doesn't apply on the PT-540, which is sad really. Seems like a great tool and I'd love to add it to my tool belt.
Guess I'm gonna have to order it in from the US directly, adding intercontinental shipping costs on top of a considerable amount of money for the PT-540 itself. Ah well, guess in the end it's probably worth it :)
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Welcome to the forum mate :tu:
And yes there very difficult to find in Europe I'm affraid :-\
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Having owned a Sog I can tell you, you won't be disapointed.
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To be honest this tool is built even better than most other SOG's I've handled. Don't know why that would be, but it is. :)
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Welcome to the forum mate :tu:
Thanks :)
Does anyone know if it's available in England?
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Yes but you are not going to like the price :o Only place i've found it so far, could be one somewhere else but i haven't found it yet :)
http://uk.farnell.com/paladin-tools/6510/multi-tool/dp/1421889
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£160 inc delivery?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!? :o :o :o :o :o
SOD THAT!
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I can manage without it I think. £160, that's taking the p**s that is.
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Yes but you are not going to like the price :o Only place i've found it so far, could be one somewhere else but i haven't found it yet :)
http://uk.farnell.com/paladin-tools/6510/multi-tool/dp/1421889
Thanks for the link, looked up if there was a Swedish division and found this: http://se.farnell.com/paladin-tools/6510/multi-tool/dp/1421889
2072.7 SEK (kr) = $235.94 = £166.38 = a tad much :(
Still, getting closer heh...
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you know i was looking at getting one of those, but now. i think i'll pass for two reasons, first the cost the second the size! holy spandex batman! thats friggin huge!!!
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kind of same case here. Looks like a terrific MT that once I looked forward to have, but it´s too expensive and too specific for me.
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It may be huge, but I still want one. :)
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might be big but not specific, its a sog, just take the blades you wont use and put some for your specific job :)
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Looks like a damn good tool to me, and yeah it's a SOG, customizable and all.
The cost of getting one, not the price on the MT itself is what's holding me back.
And regarding the size, I don't really see any drawbacks other than the volume it occupies wherever I might carry it when not using it, and to me that's not reason enough to put it aside.
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They make smaller versions of it.
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How does the 525 compare with the 540?
It looks as though it doesn't have the wire stripper on the head, but it's hard to tell from the photos on the web.
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for a long time I was really keen to finding me one of these (thing which held me back most was the limited availability and obscene price in the UK).
But that aside, if this had outside opening tools, I would probably have to get one (swapping out the electrician specific tools for more everyday ones of course).
Such a shame SOG continues with their all inside tools and silly handle flaps.
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for a long time I was really keen to finding me one of these (thing which held me back most was the limited availability and obscene price in the UK).
But that aside, if this had outside opening tools, I would probably have to get one (swapping out the electrician specific tools for more everyday ones of course).
Such a shame SOG continues with their all inside tools and silly handle flaps.
Indeed. :-\
(here's hoping for a Paladin PT-560 PowerAssist next year!) :cheers: ;)
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I thought vic/bear has a patent on that so others can't use it?
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for a long time I was really keen to finding me one of these (thing which held me back most was the limited availability and obscene price in the UK).
they can be had for less than £100 on some sites in the UK, farnell tend to be expensive for this kind of thing.
I thought vic/bear has a patent on that so others can't use it?
I don't think so (http://sogknives.com/store/S66.html)
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Indeed, it seems you can get it for £97 here:
http://www.markertek.co.uk/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=PAL-PT540
BUT, that is still an exorbitant amount IMO. £75 would be the upper limit I would be willing to pay, maybe that is unrealistic.
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Bob, how does the tool compare to your other tools you may consider to EDC? As I have mentioned before, if I was to get one, I would swap out the electrician specific tools for more general ones.
How do you find the all inside tools, especially with the flappy panels, compared to e.g. the spirit or swisstool all outside tools, of the LM wave/charge/surge partially outside opening tools config?
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I don't think so (http://sogknives.com/store/S66.html)
It's still not the same as all outside opening as vic/bear. One of the reasons vic bought bear was to obtain usage of that patent. Others can have similar but not the same way of tool arrangement.
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Indeed, it seems you can get it for £97 here:
http://www.markertek.co.uk/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=PAL-PT540
BUT, that is still an exorbitant amount IMO. £75 would be the upper limit I would be willing to pay, maybe that is unrealistic.
I think it costs so much because it is such a speSmurfpillsed, high quality tool. A Venn diagram of "network installers" and "people who carry multi-tools" probably doesn't have a great overlap.
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Bob, how does the tool compare to your other tools you may consider to EDC? As I have mentioned before, if I was to get one, I would swap out the electrician specific tools for more general ones.
How do you find the all inside tools, especially with the flappy panels, compared to e.g. the spirit or swisstool all outside tools, of the LM wave/charge/surge partially outside opening tools config?
Overall build quality is top notch, but it would never be a good EDC for me. :-\ The monstrous overall size is an immediate deal killer, as I prefer a less conspicuous carry tool. (A professional tradesman who used a tool hard throughout the day might feel differently of course)
Deal killer #2 for me applies to all SOG PowerLocks as well: The Flappers. :P Set aside for the moment how clumsy they are and the extra steps required every time an implement is needed. Instead just consider how the very presence of flappers on SOG tools forces all four outside "long" blades to be nearly one half inch shorter than they would otherwise need to be. (the blades have to be short in order to fold clear of the flapper pivot point)
The PT-540 for instance, a great big strapping brute of a tool, still comes with four outside blades that are shorter than those of physically smaller models like the Vic SwissTool or the Leatherman Core. Even much smaller multitools like your Charge have bigger knives than the PT-540. All because of the flappers. ::)
If I'm going to carry a big tool, I expect it should have big blades. :salute:
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Excellent short review there!
SOG need to change it to an all outside opening tool, like a swisstool / spirit, and that would allow them to put in some huge tools to match the size of the beast. And of course do away with those flappy paddles and make it much more elegant to use.
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I'm bumping this old topic
I'm going after a 540
wish me luck
I really want to try one of these.
I may do some tool swapping and make my dream sog work tool.
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I'm bumping this old topic
I'm going after a 540
wish me luck
I really want to try one of these.
I may do some tool swapping and make my dream sog work tool.
If you happen to find two (at a reasonable price, say less than $US 80) please let me know :salute:
Also I have some spare SOG tool components which may help with your tool swapping.
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Well lads I hope you have industrial trouser suspenders too stop your duds falling down :P :D
Be interesting to see if Paladin is using old SOG parts made in the US or if they have changed over to SOG's current supplier :think: :think:
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I'm bumping this old topic
I'm going after a 540
wish me luck
I really want to try one of these.
I may do some tool swapping and make my dream sog work tool.
If you happen to find two (at a reasonable price, say less than $US 80) please let me know :salute:
Also I have some spare SOG tool components which may help with your tool swapping.
I got a lead on some old stock at my wives work.
Il get them on her employ s discount.. Il try get a few :)
Well lads I hope you have industrial trouser suspenders too stop your duds falling down :P :D
Be interesting to see if Paladin is using old SOG parts made in the US or if they have changed over to SOG's current supplier :think: :think:
there old stock I'm sure they were made before 2009 they should be made in USA.
Im hoping there is a stack of them that got forget about .
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The PT 540 is for those folks that think the Surge is too dainty....
Def
Sent from a digital multitool
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I like the plier head.
I think it may have been made for me lol
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The PT 540 is for those folks that think the Surge is too dainty....
Def
Sent from a digital multitool
:rofl:
Well, it's still smaller than a Blacktip. :D
http://forum.multitool.or....msg482735.html#msg482735 (http://forum.multitool.org/index.php/topic,27463.msg482735.html#msg482735)
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Very true. That Black tip is massive!
Def
Sent from a digital multitool
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I'm bumping this old topic
I'm going after a 540
wish me luck
I really want to try one of these.
I may do some tool swapping and make my dream sog work tool.
If you happen to find two (at a reasonable price, say less than $US 80) please let me know :salute:
Also I have some spare SOG tool components which may help with your tool swapping.
I got a lead on some old stock at my wives work.
Il get them on her employ s discount.. Il try get a few :)
Well lads I hope you have industrial trouser suspenders too stop your duds falling down :P :D
Be interesting to see if Paladin is using old SOG parts made in the US or if they have changed over to SOG's current supplier :think: :think:
there old stock I'm sure they were made before 2009 they should be made in USA.
Im hoping there is a stack of them that got forget about .
I might be interested as well, let me know.
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No luck.
I tried
sorry if I got anyones hopes up
I'm bummed to.
I really like the pliers on the 540.
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No problem. I wasn't looking for an EDC, more just to satisfy my curiousity. One will turn up some day.
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No problem. I wasn't looking for an EDC, more just to satisfy my curiousity. One will turn up some day.
we'll find ours :)
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However, I did find a shop with stocks of the even more massive SOG Blacktip :o I might just have to get me one of them ;)
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Got me excited. I was looking for one last year but not even a nibble. I think I have a better chance at finding a unicorn or mermaid than a PT-540.
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They are still around, and if you are prepared to pay silly money there are some places claiming to sell them new ($ 160 - $240 IIRC, google paladin pt-540 or paladin powerplay and spend a while sorting through the search results and you should see them ). I'm just too much of a cheapskate and will keep on looking on ebay for some a bit less expensive (I'm not looking for a user, just to satisfy my curiosity).
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I'm going to keep the hope that I find a good user.
they cheapest I could find is around 175.
way out of my budget for a work tool.
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I scored a used PT-540 on ebay recently for $75.00 (and another one went for $88.00), so they are around, you just have to keep looking.
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(http://i1341.photobucket.com/albums/o757/mrynnr/MT/3B073610-B85C-4D24-824A-0249216F834B_zpskru25g3s.jpg) (http://s1341.photobucket.com/user/mrynnr/media/MT/3B073610-B85C-4D24-824A-0249216F834B_zpskru25g3s.jpg.html)
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I'm not a telecomm guy, but I love this tool. Maybe one day, I'll get one.
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Congratulations on the PT-540
I was sorting through my SOG box just the other day and came across my own trio of Paladins. They simply ooze quality. The 540 is just :drool: :drool:
I'm thankful that I have them, the attention to detail proves that SOG could take on all comers when they want to.
Enjoy :tu:
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Nice Mary!
Nate
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(http://i1341.photobucket.com/albums/o757/mrynnr/MT/3B073610-B85C-4D24-824A-0249216F834B_zpskru25g3s.jpg) (http://s1341.photobucket.com/user/mrynnr/media/MT/3B073610-B85C-4D24-824A-0249216F834B_zpskru25g3s.jpg.html)
Awesome. :gimme: :gimme:
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Well, I don't have the money to buy one, I did find a few of them for sale at overstocked for $115.
Nate
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Well, I don't have the money to buy one, I did find a few of them for sale at overstocked for $115.
Nate
Got room for me in that boat?
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I don't have money for this either. I've had this for several years.
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I don't have money for this either. I've had this for several years.
Surely it is too big for the snow ninja and needs to be sent to lobster boy. :P
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The PT-540 I purchased this week arrived today. My first SOG multi (third if considering the PowerLock and PowerAssist I returned to Costco for poor quality a few years back).
Its picture from eBay
(http://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/KucAAOSw-4BXaKKA/s-l1600.jpg)
Except for the missing handle covers and the broken file, there is very little evident that other components were used. I really like the reinforced hex divers on the handle. I wish Leatherman have the same feature on the Super Tool series.
Anyway, a question for SOG gurus on MTO: Do cover handles and file sold on SOG website fit this tool? Do the PT-540 and PT-525 use the same handle covers?
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The PT540 is larger than the 525, and the PowerLock, and is warrantied through Paladin (and only for a year!), not SOG. Im pretty sure the file is just a standard SOG file with flathead end, which are available for purchase from the SOG website.
The handle covers are another matter. I have no clue if they are the same ones on the PowerLock, but if they are, SOG's warranty department will send you a set for free, if you ask nicely. They are great in that regard. Just ask them for a set of PowerLock 2.0 covers, and they will take care of you.
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The PT540 is larger than the 525, and the PowerLock, and is warrantied through Paladin (and only for a year!), not SOG. Im pretty sure the file is just a standard SOG file with flathead end, which are available for purchase from the SOG website.
The handle covers are another matter. I have no clue if they are the same ones on the PowerLock, but if they are, SOG's warranty department will send you a set for free, if you ask nicely. They are great in that regard. Just ask them for a set of PowerLock 2.0 covers, and they will take care of you.
Thank you for chipping in. I look at the product brochures and online pictures, and find the covers on the 540 and 525 to be different. The 540 covers may have detents to keep them from flapping (notice 2 holes on each side of the handles). I can only find part #6509, which seems to be of the 525. The question is whether this 525 cover or the PowerLock 2.0 covers will fit securely on the 540.
I honestly do not like the cover design on SOG multis. However, in this case, I would like to bring this tool back to its original condition. Furthermore, the implements are a little loose inside the channels. I will try to tighten them up a bit to see if it helps.
BTW, are you looking for a PT-540? What was the MSRP of this thing?
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The PT540 is larger than the 525, and the PowerLock, and is warrantied through Paladin (and only for a year!), not SOG. Im pretty sure the file is just a standard SOG file with flathead end, which are available for purchase from the SOG website.
The handle covers are another matter. I have no clue if they are the same ones on the PowerLock, but if they are, SOG's warranty department will send you a set for free, if you ask nicely. They are great in that regard. Just ask them for a set of PowerLock 2.0 covers, and they will take care of you.
Thank you for chipping in. I look at the product brochures and online pictures, and find the covers on the 540 and 525 to be different. The 540 covers may have detents to keep them from flapping (notice 2 holes on each side of the handles). I can only find part #6509, which seems to be of the 525. The question is whether this 525 cover or the PowerLock 2.0 covers will fit securely on the 540.
I honestly do not like the cover design on SOG multis. However, in this case, I would like to bring this tool back to its original condition. Furthermore, the implements are a little loose inside the channels. I will try to tighten them up a bit to see if it helps.
BTW, are you looking for a PT-540? What was the MSRP of this thing?
nope, not looking for a PT540, I just like em. According to this post here: http://forum.multitool.org/index.php?topic=1693.0 the PT-540 could be found for as little as $110 in some places. Overstock.com lists a price of $126.49, although they are obviously out of stock.
The PowerLock 2.0 covers also have those divots at both ends to keep the covers on.
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I just had a look at my Powerlock v1 ( I don't have a 2.0), PT-525 and PT-540. The PT-540 is 2mm wider in the body than my PL 1.0 and PT-525 so I think only the PT-540 covers will work on a PT-540.
I haven't seen any retailers selling new PT-540s for a couple of years now.
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I just had a look at my Powerlock v1 ( I don't have a 2.0), PT-525 and PT-540. The PT-540 is 2mm wider in the body than my PL 1.0 and PT-525 so I think only the PT-540 covers will work on a PT-540.
I haven't seen any retailers selling new PT-540s for a couple of years now.
Do you have a PowerAssist to check? The PA seems to have the same cover style on the handle with 6 components.
I got the idea from this post: http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/showthread.php/528770-New-PT540-(expanded-PowerLock)?s=83164b5091aa6b0052066af7f4e32626&p=5279815#post5279815
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I just had a look at my Powerlock v1 ( I don't have a 2.0), PT-525 and PT-540. The PT-540 is 2mm wider in the body than my PL 1.0 and PT-525 so I think only the PT-540 covers will work on a PT-540.
I haven't seen any retailers selling new PT-540s for a couple of years now.
Do you have a PowerAssist to check? The PA seems to have the same cover style on the handle with 6 components.
I got the idea from this post: http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/showthread.php/528770-New-PT540-(expanded-PowerLock)?s=83164b5091aa6b0052066af7f4e32626&p=5279815#post5279815
Wow I dont know how I didn't realize the PowerLock 2.0 and PowetAssist have different handle covers. Sadly,I dont have a powerLock or Paladin to compare my PowerAssist.
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.... Sadly,I dont have a powerLock or Paladin to compare my PowerAssist.
And I don't have a PowerAssist to compare with my PL or Paladins.
If it helps the PT-540 covers are 75mm long and measure 17-17.1mm on the inside (the PT-540 handles are around 16.8-16.9mm wide).
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How I wish you two, sLaughterMed and gregozedobe, neighbors :cheers: Using a cheap pair of calipers to measure the PT-540 handles:
.67" (17.0mm) wide - 2.69" (68.3mm) spacing between two holes .1" (2.5mm) diameter for pivot hole toward the pliers, and .08" (2.0mm) diameter on the other hole.
sLaughterMed- any chance you can measure the thickness and hole spacing on the PowerAssist as wel as its cover?
Thanks for your help, gents.
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How I wish you two, sLaughterMed and gregozedobe, neighbors :cheers: Using a cheap pair of calipers to measure the PT-540 handles:
.67" (17.0mm) wide - 2.69" (68.3mm) spacing between two holes .1" (2.5mm) diameter for pivot hole toward the pliers, and .08" (2.0mm) diameter on the other hole.
sLaughterMed- any chance you can measure the thickness and hole spacing on the PowerAssist as wel as its cover?
Thanks for your help, gents.
Ill do my best when my son goes to bed :salute:
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I just recently learnt about some awesomeness of SOG customer serivce including free knife clip replacement, free knife sharpening... My SOG Escape folder lost its clip, so I emailed SOG for the first time yesterday. While at it, I sent another email to their customer service about my cover-less PT-540, and asked if the PowerAssist covers would fit, and how I would be able to obtain them. I received 2 emails today, one for the clip and other for the covers. SOG would send one clip and two PA covers to me. They even noted that the covers would fit, but I might have to bend them a bit for a proper fit.
Wow, that is really awesome how fast they responded and took care of my situations :tu:
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I just recently learnt about some awesomeness of SOG customer serivce including free knife clip replacement, free knife sharpening... My SOG Escape folder lost its clip, so I emailed SOG for the first time yesterday. While at it, I sent another email to their customer service about my cover-less PT-540, and asked if the PowerAssist covers would fit, and how I would be able to obtain them. I received 2 emails today, one for the clip and other for the covers. SOG would send one clip and two PA covers to me. They even noted that the covers would fit, but I might have to bend them a bit for a proper fit.
Wow, that is really awesome how fast they responded and took care of my situations :tu:
Good to know that the PowerAssist covers work for the PT540
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Also really good CS from the sounds of it as well :cheers:
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I received the covers from SOG. They mistakenly sent me the PowerLock covers instead of the PowerAssist :bnghd: :bnghd: :bnghd: The spacing inside the cover channel is thinner than the handle thickness by about the thickness of the sheet metal the handles are made of. So, I cannot do any bending for the covers to fit, as their two edges will just flare out. Furthermore, the pliers are long, and do not go pass the covers' cutouts either. So, to adapt a SOG multi's covers on the PT-540, the cover channels must accept the PT's thickness, as well as the long pliers' noses. I think the PowerAssist covers may fit (based on the amount of tool load, and their looks), but I still have to deal with modifying the cutouts. Only someone with both PowerAssist and PT-540 at hand can confirm this.
As this point, I will keep the tool as-is. :-\
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Bummer :facepalm:
See if they would send the right ones.
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Bummer :facepalm:
See if they would send the right ones.
I did ask for the PowerAssist covers, but the customer service replied by saying they did not have an exact match for the PT-540 (duh!), and I had to bend to make them fit. I think the agent did not really looked into the drawings for dimensions, or the employees picking up covers for me could not tell the difference between the PL and PA cover looks and sizes.
Either way, SOG already went extra mile on this issue, as they are not responsible for this tool's warranty. I do not want to pester them and let it go.
(Or maybe I should tell them I have over $1,500 worth of SOG knives, so they can be a lil' nicer? :D )
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You never know, it's worth asking. Just explain that while you appreciate it, they sent the wrong covers and could they send the right ones.
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You never know, it's worth asking. Just explain that while you appreciate it, they sent the wrong covers and could they send the right ones.
I guess I will give another shot.
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You never know, it's worth asking. Just explain that while you appreciate it, they sent the wrong covers and could they send the right ones.
I guess I will give another shot
Good luck :cheers:
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Maybe include some pics in your email, that's get them going. :tu:
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Maybe include some pics in your email, that's get them going. :tu:
I sent pictures twice, and explained 3 times. Maybe the gentleman read too fast and did not see the difference between PowerAssist and PowerLock. Anyway, I was told a set of PA handle covers are requested for me. Cross my fingers that the picker will not mess up this time.
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Well, a packet from SOG arrived today. And you can guess, they sent me another set of PowerLock S62 handle covers :poh: This make me think they do not have PowerAssist handle covers at hand as spares, as they are not being offered as accessories on the website.
I give up.
(Still, SOG customer service is awesome! I would say they are better than Leatherman in term of human interaction)
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Is this what you are needing ?
http://www.sogknives.com/type/accessories/powerassist-handle-cover.html
(http://www.sogknives.com/media/catalog/product/cache/1/image/980x/17f82f742ffe127f42dca9de82fb58b1/s/o/sog_powerassist_handlecover_main_1.png)
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Is this what you are needing ?
http://www.sogknives.com/type/accessories/powerassist-handle-cover.html
(http://www.sogknives.com/media/catalog/product/cache/1/image/980x/17f82f742ffe127f42dca9de82fb58b1/s/o/sog_powerassist_handlecover_main_1.png)
Wait... yeah, that's what I "may" need. How I did not find it or think of finding it on their website ??? I guess, because it started with my inquiry as weather the PA covers would fit the PT-540, and the CS rep went ahead and sent me a pair of PL covers, and thing went from there...
I will just buy the covers from them, instead of pestering thr rep again. Hopefully, they will pick the right parts this time. :P
Thanks, Steve.
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Good luck this time chrono :pok: :D
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new page banana man dance
:nanadance:
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Is this what you are needing ?
http://www.sogknives.com/type/accessories/powerassist-handle-cover.html
(http://www.sogknives.com/media/catalog/product/cache/1/image/980x/17f82f742ffe127f42dca9de82fb58b1/s/o/sog_powerassist_handlecover_main_1.png)
Wait... yeah, that's what I "may" need. How I did not find it or think of finding it on their website ??? I guess, because it started with my inquiry as weather the PA covers would fit the PT-540, and the CS rep went ahead and sent me a pair of PL covers, and thing went from there...
I will just buy the covers from them, instead of pestering thr rep again. Hopefully, they will pick the right parts this time. :P
Thanks, Steve.
You bet :cheers:
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When looking at my PT-540 pair today, I found that there are at least 2 design variations. Look at my pictures, you will see the differences on the pliers and handle designs:
- Piece #1: + Finer lettering on pliers and handle
+ 2 built-in cover stops on each handle
+ Thinner pliers tips
+ Pliers teeth match perfectly (maybe just this piece)
- Piece #2: + Thicker lettering on pliers and handle
+ 1 built-in cover stop on each handle
+ Thicker pliers tips
+ Pliers teeth do not match perfectly (maybe just this piece)
Which one is earlier design? Is this proof that SOG updated design for better user need or just saving on manufacturing purpose? My guess is #1 the earlier design.
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I always thought, that SOG made a great mistake discontinuing a classic like the Paladin 540. A must for telephony, and IT work. It would be nice to see-it released again; under the SOG branding. Perhaps as the: Field Tech Multi
(https://i.imgur.com/8H0tQnRl.jpg?1)
(https://i.imgur.com/YLEiy4Cl.jpg?1)
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I agree that SOG should release this tool in SOG branding becasue there isn't another tool out there that can compete with this one :salute: the plier head is very awesome and I think they need to try to put them back out into the market :cheers: