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Non Tool Forum => Flashlight Forum => Topic started by: comis on September 07, 2019, 04:19:14 AM
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Just a quick post to chat about my rediscovery of an old flashlight of mine, Pak-lite. Originally, I get it for home emergency use, but felt there are more optimal choices out there, so I left it in a bin for years.
Until recently, I want to find myself a bedside flashlight to check on my newborn in the middle of the night, and this is the perfect little light for that. It is squarish so it won't roll around, it has the right minimum amount of light to get around, and best of all, it glow-in-dark, so it is easy to locate. :tu:
Do you have a favorite bedside flashlight?
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I have a couple pak-lites that I got cheap and felt why not. One good thing is usually when all other batteries are sold out, you can still find 9v.
My favorite bedside light is a Jetbeam RRT-01. It always comes on at low which is <1 lumen and the rotary ring lets me dial in exactly how much light I want. With the tritium vials on the end, I can always find it in the dark.
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That's true about emergency prep, especially in most of convenient stores in US, 9V is probably easy to find.
Interesting jetbeam , is this the newer version where it has infinity steps? Comparing to the HDS rotary, how do their functions compare?
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That's true about emergency prep, especially in most of convenient stores in US, 9V is probably easy to find.
Interesting jetbeam , is this the newer version where it has infinity steps? Comparing to the HDS rotary, how do their functions compare?
It is the newer version. I also purchased mine from SkyLumen so that I could get a HiCRI emitter and it was the only place carrying them at the time.
Both lights are quality lights, but I think the the user interface on the HDS makes it a much better light. The HDS has both a tail clickie and rotary, whereas the RRT-01 only has a rotary. The HDS’ tail clickie turns the light on at whatever level the rotary is set at and you can change that level while the light is off or on. With the RRT, the light always turns on at low and you have to rotate through with it on to achieve the brightness you want. Through different click sequences and user programming up to 3 different brightness levels or strobes can be accessed quickly using the HDS’ clickie. There are other programming options that also make the HDS nice (like pseudo momentary) but the above is the most important difference for me.
The RRT-01 does have a couple benefits over the HDS. The RRT can use 18350 in addition to CR123/16340, although most my lights are CR123 so that is what I use. The RRT has a higher max lumen. Also the RRT is smaller, lighter and less expensive. You could also argue that with all the programming, it is more to go wrong on the HDS, but it is a quality made light that the manufacturer (Henry) stands behind.
To me the HDS is the better light and the one I go to for edc and most daily uses. The RRT just wins for bedside because I like having a dedicated light that is always on the nightstand.
Also, to not be misleading neither the RRT or HDS come with the tritium. The RRT has the slots in the tail. The tritium bezel on the HDS was an after market purchase.
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My favourite bedside light is a PALight. IMO the best feature is the always-on locator glow, which helps you find it even in complete dark in a strange location (eg camping). These lights will run the locator glow for 12 months or more on a quality 9V alkaline battery (and longer on a primary lithium battery). They aren't as compact as a PAKLite, but they are encased in a robust rubber body.
Here is a link with some info:
https://flashlightsunlimited.com/survival.htm
But don't get too excited about buying one to see what they are like, they have been off the market for several years now (unfortunately).
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I keep an olight r50 pro seeker in my bedroom specifically for if I am ever woken by burglars downstairs. I figured shining a blinding light in there face may give me the upper hand.
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The Original Infinite Adjustable Higher Output Light!
These go the lowest of any light that I have owned and I can get away with 1 battery change a year in normal use!
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It is the newer version. I also purchased mine from SkyLumen so that I could get a HiCRI emitter and it was the only place carrying them at the time.
Both lights are quality lights, but I think the the user interface on the HDS makes it a much better light. The HDS has both a tail clickie and rotary, whereas the RRT-01 only has a rotary. The HDS’ tail clickie turns the light on at whatever level the rotary is set at and you can change that level while the light is off or on. With the RRT, the light always turns on at low and you have to rotate through with it on to achieve the brightness you want. Through different click sequences and user programming up to 3 different brightness levels or strobes can be accessed quickly using the HDS’ clickie. There are other programming options that also make the HDS nice (like pseudo momentary) but the above is the most important difference for me.
The RRT-01 does have a couple benefits over the HDS. The RRT can use 18350 in addition to CR123/16340, although most my lights are CR123 so that is what I use. The RRT has a higher max lumen. Also the RRT is smaller, lighter and less expensive. You could also argue that with all the programming, it is more to go wrong on the HDS, but it is a quality made light that the manufacturer (Henry) stands behind.
To me the HDS is the better light and the one I go to for edc and most daily uses. The RRT just wins for bedside because I like having a dedicated light that is always on the nightstand.
Also, to not be misleading neither the RRT or HDS come with the tritium. The RRT has the slots in the tail. The tritium bezel on the HDS was an after market purchase.
Thank you for an awesome writeup!
I looked up this light after your initial post, and saw a pretty decent offer on this light when I was out shopping for tools. Next thing I knew I was totally distracted and came home with a new light. :facepalm: :D
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My favourite bedside light is a PALight. IMO the best feature is the always-on locator glow, which helps you find it even in complete dark in a strange location (eg camping). These lights will run the locator glow for 12 months or more on a quality 9V alkaline battery (and longer on a primary lithium battery). They aren't as compact as a PAKLite, but they are encased in a robust rubber body.
Here is a link with some info:
https://flashlightsunlimited.com/survival.htm (https://flashlightsunlimited.com/survival.htm)
But don't get too excited about buying one to see what they are like, they have been off the market for several years now (unfortunately).
Ahh! Palight! I remember those and I think I might have gotten one during my full fledged Flashaholic days. I remembered keeping it in that locator mode for weeks, and eventually got so bored that I turned it off. :D
Now if I can find that light again in my bin...
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I keep an olight r50 pro seeker in my bedroom specifically for if I am ever woken by burglars downstairs. I figured shining a blinding light in there face may give me the upper hand.
Wow, 3000+ lumens! :o I always love a small-sized powerful thrower with a big reflector for the outdoor, but in confined space, I probably prefer something less lumens,YMMV.
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The Original Infinite Adjustable Higher Output Light!
These go the lowest of any light that I have owned and I can get away with 1 battery change a year in normal use!
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190907/d3544d6a3a7388e6cd3793b74ad342dd.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190907/093163eefeb8785e6785d8b9b99a1768.jpg)
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Love Surefire stuff, especially remember I used to play SF legos with all the bodies and heads. I remembered this offer a long while ago, and kinda wonder why they decide to go back to 2/3 stages for the newer offerings. :think:
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Wow, 3000+ lumens! :o I always love a small-sized powerful thrower with a big reflector for the outdoor, but in confined space, I probably prefer something less lumens,YMMV.
I am also toying with keeping an air horn upstairs to be used in conjunction with the torch in hope it makes the burglars leave posthaste.
As in the uk tackling a burglar can get you in more trouble than them.
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Thank you for an awesome writeup!
I looked up this light after your initial post, and saw a pretty decent offer on this light when I was out shopping for tools. Next thing I knew I was totally distracted and came home with a new light. :facepalm: :D
Isn’t that the way it happens. Congrats on a nice light.
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I am also toying with keeping an air horn upstairs to be used in conjunction with the torch in hope it makes the burglars leave posthaste.
As in the uk tackling a burglar can get you in more trouble than them.
Sounds like a sticky situation, I always say the best conflict is no conflict. For home security, I did install surveillance camera where appropriate, and put up signs to discourage thief from trying.
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Isn’t that the way it happens. Congrats on a nice light.
Thank you! It won't be possible with your suggestion! :cheers: For the end trit vials, would you by any chance remember their sizes? I read from reviews that the slot may not fit 2*12, and curious what other options I have. :pok: :D
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Thank you! It won't be possible with your suggestion! :cheers: For the end trit vials, would you by any chance remember their sizes? I read from reviews that the slot may not fit 2*12, and curious what other options I have. :pok: :D
I used six 1.5x6 tritium vials, putting two in each slot
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I used six 1.5x6 tritium vials, putting two in each slot
Thanks for that! :cheers:
I read the review where they say the slot is 2.25*11.5mm(unconfirmed), I find a seller where they could provide me both 2*12 and 1.5*6, but am now really curious why two 1.5*6 will fit when the 2*12 may not? :think: :think:
Maybe I would go ahead and get some for both sizes, since they are probably applicable to the scale mod you'd mentioned in another thread. :D
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Thanks for that! :cheers:
I read the review where they say the slot is 2.25*11.5mm(unconfirmed), I find a seller where they could provide me both 2*12 and 1.5*6, but am now really curious why two 1.5*6 will fit when the 2*12 may not? :think: :think:
Maybe I would go ahead and get some for both sizes, since they are probably applicable to the scale mod you'd mentioned in another thread. :D
From what I understand the 2x12 sat too high in the slot (slot not deep enough ).
Here is a picture from the SkyLumen page showing the six 1.5x6. His thread on another forum is how I found out the 1.5x6 work.(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190908/6107f3d4a2c374cd42a8846d99df28f2.jpg)
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Ahhh...I see. Thanks again for this picture, perfectly illustrate how the 1.5x6 will sit in the slots. I think I will just go along the same way with the trit setup.
I played with it last night along with my Pak-lite, and I'm already in love with the lows on this light.
Now I am just starting to think about whether it is possible to put a little flare at the front, possibly a thin GID o-ring between the glass/refletor, or possibly some small tritium/GID epoxy around the chip? If someone comes up with a bezel with tritium slots, that'd be cool too.
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I have a Thrunite TN-12 on the bedside table. I usually use a BLF A6 SE of which I have 3 or 4 so this one got relegated to bedside table duty. It's a good light and the 18650 battery means I can easily have it on the entire night without worry.
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I have a Thrunite TN-12 on the bedside table. I usually use a BLF A6 SE of which I have 3 or 4 so this one got relegated to bedside table duty. It's a good light and the 18650 battery means I can easily have it on the entire night without worry.
I remembered we briefly talked about BLF A6 SE, maybe in another thread? This is a good value buy, and it kinda reminds me that we do live in the golden age of gears, where there is no shortage of goodies, but money. :D
Right now, both the newly acquired Jetbeam RRT-01 and Pak-lite are both on my bedside table, and it really is a tough call between these two.
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Malkoff AA. Very nice firefly mode.
(https://i.imgur.com/jNhfgMbl.jpg)
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Malkoff AA. Very nice firefly mode.
(https://i.imgur.com/jNhfgMbl.jpg)
I remember Malkoff was making many good led drop-in for Surefire back then, it's cool to see they are now making flashlights too.
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Just a quick update, since then I acquired a Jetbeam RRT01 (2019), and had been really pleased with it's performance, especially the infinite steps rotary dial and the ultra low output. I just put in 6 1.5*6 orange tritium and sealed it with epoxy resin. Now I am looking forward to testing it tonight. Compares to green and blue, orange tritium is dimmer but that's exactly why I chose it for this new bedside light.
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Nice light comis. I usually put my Olight S1R and ZL on my night stand. They are easy to reach in pitch dark room since I always place them in the same spot. I like having low lumen or max power as needed.
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Great lights in this thread! :like:
Been carrying a JetBeam TC-R1 since 2012. A while back I added a 'glocator' to it's lanyard recess. Simple industrial , glow in the dark , egress tape that has been punched to fit. Waterproof and lasts easily over 12 hours for night adapted eyes. Easy peasy to locate on the stand in the wee hours.
(https://i.ibb.co/9TryVcn/IMG-20190921-121834339.jpg) (https://ibb.co/tsJYxQB)
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Nicely done with the GID tape.
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Nicely done with the GID tape.
Thanks, wish I would have come up with it sooner. Better late than never :) I've used the tape on a few odds and ends, it holds up well.
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That does look great! Thank you for a very cool and applicable idea for bedside flashlights!
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That does look great! Thank you for a very cool and applicable idea for bedside flashlights!
Thanks, I really like tritium, but I seem to eventually break them all :(
With this, it's just some hollow punches and voila.
Glo-nation sold the good stuff, by the foot, but it seems they have closed up shop.
(https://i.ibb.co/NYcSCXB/IMG-20190921-144504215.jpg) (https://ibb.co/QmydQZw)
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Fenix TK12.
There is no memory mode on this light, it always comes on in high mode.
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Thanks, I really like tritium, but I seem to eventually break them all :(
With this, it's just some hollow punches and voila.
Glo-nation sold the good stuff, by the foot, but it seems they have closed up shop.
(https://i.ibb.co/NYcSCXB/IMG-20190921-144504215.jpg) (https://ibb.co/QmydQZw)
Hope to find it else where when needed...
Fenix TK12.
There is no memory mode on this light, it always comes on in high mode.
I thought they have dual stage adjusted by the twist of head, so you could choose to low output by default? Or you'd prefer to keep a bright light by the bedside?
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The TK12 interface is always high mode, regardless of whether it is momentary on or fully on.
The light does have low and medium mode. These are accessed when light is fully on, then a half press of the tailcap. As soon as light is turned off, it is back to high mode.
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The TK12 interface is always high mode, regardless of whether it is momentary on or fully on.
The light does have low and medium mode. These are accessed when light is fully on, then a half press of the tailcap. As soon as light is turned off, it is back to high mode.
Oh, I see. I used to own Fenix lights that has mechanical dual stages, where the brightness is altered by twist of front bezel. I thought Tk12 was the same when reading about it online, sounds like it is changed by tailcap switch programming.
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I bought a Nitecore TUP from Blitzwing and absolutely love this light. It pretty much fits the bill for every purpose.
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I bought a Nitecore TUP from Blitzwing and absolutely love this light. It pretty much fits the bill for every purpose.
The TUP is way too bright for me on the lowest setting which is why mine is not by the bed anymore.
The light is truly amazing though for sure but I need lower lows.
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I bought a Nitecore TUP from Blitzwing and absolutely love this light. It pretty much fits the bill for every purpose.
A blockish light is cool, at least it won't roll around the bedside table. I wish Nitecore or Jetbeam could come up something with rotary dial and the smart display to tell you how much remaining time, that'd be ultra useful and nice to use.
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The TUP is way too bright for me on the lowest setting which is why mine is not by the bed anymore.
The light is truly amazing though for sure but I need lower lows.
Ez, if you get a chance, do check out the review on the Jetbeam RRT01(2019), it has infinite steps and the lowest is so low that your eyes can hardly see.
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Ez, if you get a chance, do check out the review on the Jetbeam RRT01(2019), it has infinite steps and the lowest is so low that your eyes can hardly see.
Thanks
I have had them but also need a switch on my lights for positive off and not having to spin the wheel for light.
I already have plenty of lights that go that low too and had hoped that the TUP would even though I had no reason to hope so,no Nitecore that I have known will except theirs with the dial which are discontinued and were too big for what they are and the last thing I needed is the flashing colors too..
The T1A that is by my bed already goes as low as the Jetbeam and also has no switch so I am good with that and every ZL that I have easily also goes that low if I want to.
The Tiny Manker E02 actually has 22 moonlight levels that are easily selected from and I use that by the bed a lot too,it is easier than most to handle at night when I might need to too! :facepalm:
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Those are some good light, I myself am a big fan for twisty, so less thing to fail, and a short light with tailstand capacity is a bonus for me, so I don't have to turn on the bathroom light to wake myself up.
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Amici,
Being a flashaholic, I recently starting collecting flashlights manufactured during the 1960's-1970's. Here is one of my favorites that I slightly modded. It is a Sportsman made by Rayovac sometime in the 1970's. What I did was ditch the incandescent bulb, and replace it with an LED. It escapes me how many lumens I installed, but I believe it is 200 lumens which is definitely a step up from the traditional bulb.
Especially since the original reflector is nearly 100% mint considering it's age. I also replaced the factory plastic lens with a more traditional glass type. For power, I am running 6 AA lithium batteries contained within SANYO ENELOOP Spacer/converters with great results. It feels great in the hand, plus it's cool using something that was made and considered top notch equipment in the 1970's.
Cheers,
Serge
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Amici,
Being a flashaholic, I recently starting collecting flashlights manufactured during the 1960's-1970's. Here is one of my favorites that I slightly modded. It is a Sportsman made by Rayovac sometime in the 1970's. What I did was ditch the incandescent bulb, and replace it with an LED. It escapes me how many lumens I installed, but I believe it is 200 lumens which is definitely a step up from the traditional bulb.
Especially since the original reflector is nearly 100% mint considering it's age. I also replaced the factory plastic lens with a more traditional glass type. For power, I am running 6 AA lithium batteries contained within SANYO ENELOOP Spacer/converters with great results. It feels great in the hand, plus it's cool using something that was made and considered top notch equipment in the 1970's.
Cheers,
Serge
I did a similar mod more than a decade ago, but back then, we didn't have strong leds we do nowadays. But it was really a refreshing mod to breathe new life into old flashlight!