So no one wants free stickers? Just ask I'll send them to you.
The thing that stops me from buying a Wenger are the serrated scissors (too difficult to sharpen)
When it comes to the feel of Wenger backsprings I think we can be a little unfair. Most of the time folks are comparing Vic's 91mm springs to Wenger's 85mm ones. Now if we compare them to Vic's 84mm line the difference becomes far less obvious, if there at all. :)true, I never thought of that. At the same time, they are (or were?) more vulnerable to becoming weak (someone suggested that it is through a crack at the middle rivet, which is drilled too close to the edge of the spring or something). I have a 72 SI that has a strong knife layer, but very weak opener layer.
Well than you can buy as many as you can cause these are self sharpening scissors and will never go dull.
QuoteWell than you can buy as many as you can cause these are self sharpening scissors and will never go dull.
But how, exactly, do they self-sharpen?
Yes, here is another picture
Yes, here is another picture
Are the backspring tools any stronger than those on the smaller knives, or are the pivot holes just as close to the backspring edge as the 85mm line?
That's good news. :tu: Thanks.
IMO the reason Victorinox is probably more popular in the UK, is that most outlets stock Victorinox and not Wenger, if you google for 'Swiss Army Knife' most websites will stock Victorinox, very few for Wenger this also goes for high street retail stores.
I do like both, whilst they are both are owned by Victorinox, Wenger are becoming more individual as a brand, not just a 'Swiss Army Knife' with the Wenger on the tang. :cheers:
PS: I like the scissors on the Wenger better.
Here is a nice Wenger S18 Scout model. Definetly some Wenger models are very nice.
(http://www.sakwiki.com/show_image.php?id=2074)
I need to think about another Wenger after the holidays. Swissgrip is excellent for at the boat, Motorist does actually live in the car kit, Stainless pocket tool chest on the gadget ring .... which leaves a serrated Traveller (which doesn't get enough carry due to being serrated). The Vic's seem to get all the general pocket carry.
Main decision is whether to go for whatever the thinnest option with inline phillips and scissors is, or .... no actually I just need to find out what that is :D
......but no cigar... :)
I need to think about another Wenger after the holidays. Swissgrip is excellent for at the boat, Motorist does actually live in the car kit, Stainless pocket tool chest on the gadget ring .... which leaves a serrated Traveller (which doesn't get enough carry due to being serrated). The Vic's seem to get all the general pocket carry.
Main decision is whether to go for whatever the thinnest option with inline phillips and scissors is, or .... no actually I just need to find out what that is :D
Here you go.
http://www.sakwiki.com/tiki-index.php?page=Wenger+Nomad (http://www.sakwiki.com/tiki-index.php?page=Wenger+Nomad)
I was on a search for all the Wengers with universal wrench (which is on the opposite side of the phillips) so I've done quite a bit of reading about these things. I picked up a Cyclist a week ago and am most likely going to do a mod with it (http://forum.multitool.org/index.php/topic,33447.msg544018.html#msg544018).
I need to think about another Wenger after the holidays. Swissgrip is excellent for at the boat, Motorist does actually live in the car kit, Stainless pocket tool chest on the gadget ring .... which leaves a serrated Traveller (which doesn't get enough carry due to being serrated). The Vic's seem to get all the general pocket carry.
Main decision is whether to go for whatever the thinnest option with inline phillips and scissors is, or .... no actually I just need to find out what that is :D
Here you go.
http://www.sakwiki.com/tiki-index.php?page=Wenger+Nomad (http://www.sakwiki.com/tiki-index.php?page=Wenger+Nomad)
I was on a search for all the Wengers with universal wrench (which is on the opposite side of the phillips) so I've done quite a bit of reading about these things. I picked up a Cyclist a week ago and am most likely going to do a mod with it (http://forum.multitool.org/index.php/topic,33447.msg544018.html#msg544018).
Cheers mate :tu: I'll keep my eyes peeled
Owner's guide from 1975 for Wenger 85mm. I forgot to scan this the last time I came across it.
(http://www.sakwiki.com/show_image.php?id=2104)
i didnt realise it had a locking blade. in that case i wont be getting one of those seeing as its not uk legal.
what would you recommend as a non locking wenger?
i didnt realise it had a locking blade. in that case i wont be getting one of those seeing as its not uk legal.
what would you recommend as a non locking wenger?
i didnt realise it had a locking blade. in that case i wont be getting one of those seeing as its not uk legal.
what would you recommend as a non locking wenger?
This is an older Viking with Toothpick and Tweezers (not sure if it had a special name, since the Viking didn't include the T&T in standard configuration).I think it's wenger commander
No the Commander has a nailfile/cleaner instead of the small blade.This is an older Viking with Toothpick and Tweezers (not sure if it had a special name, since the Viking didn't include the T&T in standard configuration).I think it's wenger commander
Hi, my name's Tom, and I'm DEFINITELY a SAKaholic.......
I am loving my new Original Matterhorn i won on ebay !Come on! Photos already. We need photos! please.
(http://www.sakwiki.com/show_image.php?id=2210)That is cool! Is it a pin or what?
This is an older, somewhat larger, lapel or hat pin; it measures roughly 28.25mm x 22.5mm. The bronze background is not part of it, just a convient holder.<image (http://www.sakwiki.com/show_image.php?id=2210)>That is cool! Is it a pin or what?
It's the Matterhorn plus.Thanks dude!
Here's more info.
http://www.sakwiki.com/tiki-index.php?page=Matterhorn+Plus (http://www.sakwiki.com/tiki-index.php?page=Matterhorn+Plus)
New for 2012, the Wenger RangerGrip 90.I do like these Wenger's with the fold out pliers, although, as yet, not had a play with one. This 90 ticks a lots of boxes for me :tu:
(http://www.sakwiki.com/show_image.php?id=2222)
New for 2012, the Wenger RangerGrip 90.
<image -see above>
I like this one, is this the special order Russian one from that thread a year or so ago? What was the price on it?
New for 2012, the Wenger RangerGrip 90.
<image -see above>I like this one, is this the special order Russian one from that thread a year or so ago? What was the price on it?
Nope, this is the new 2012 model we've been talking about in the other thread on the NewRanger 90. Price was around 125, but I'm hoping felinevet will be able to do much better when he gets them in. I was too, lazy to wait to find out.
New for 2012, the Wenger RangerGrip 90.
(http://www.sakwiki.com/show_image.php?id=2222)
Ah, yes, I found the original thread, the Russian one had a longer file and no pliers.
(http://forum.multitool.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=23026.0;attach=24992;image)
http://forum.multitool.org/index.php/topic,23026.0.html (http://forum.multitool.org/index.php/topic,23026.0.html)
Are there any other models that include this long metal file?
Edit: to answer my own question :D
http://www.sakwiki.com/tiki-index.php?page=Wenger+RangerGrip+88+Rescue (http://www.sakwiki.com/tiki-index.php?page=Wenger+RangerGrip+88+Rescue)
I share your thoughts on the evo scales. They looked interesting on the pictures but when I first got one, it took me one second to realise they were not for me. I don't have a problem with the locking blades but the offering of the in line phillips on more current models would be great. Did you see the new-ish wenger classic 132, it has an in line 2D phillips instaid of the nail file, classic scales and a non locking blade. I would like it better if the saw would be replaced by scissors, to make a traveler with an in line phillips, but that's an easy mod.
@ 50 ft trad: Are you objecting in theory or in practice?
Why don't you like the locking blade on their 85mm models? I think it's pretty brilliant. The lock release does protrude a bit, so it is not as smooth in the pocket as an 84 mm Victorinox. The lock release looks like it'd be in the way of a good grip, or like it would be tripped by accident. But that is not the case in practice.
I quite like the Evo and EvoGrip scales. They do make the knife thicker, but they feel good to me. I also like that they curve to fit into the palm of the hand.
They're made out of a softer plastic than Victorinox's Cellidor, so I think they're less likely to chip and crack. I haven't dropped one yet, so I don't know for sure. I did notice yesterday that it is possible to dent them with a hard push of a thumbnail, but again, this is a problem only for people who analyze things too much.
There are lots of 85 mm models without locking blades. Take a good look on wenger's website. The trend is toward locking blades, but there are still lots of models available without them. One of my favorites is the EvoGrip S16. But they also make an EvoGrip 16 (no 'S' = no lock) and an Evo 16. (no 'grip' = no rubber inserts.) I bet they make something equivalent in the traditional series too.
Their scissors are brilliant; much heavier duty than Victorinox's. The little slip-joint pliers too, which utilize the backspring instead of having the relatively fragile leaf spring of Victorinox.
I was considering an RangerGrip 90, but I too was turned off by the $130 price tag. I also realize that I would rarely need a pliers and a saw in the same knife, especially such a huge one. So I bought a 78 and a 73 for the same or less money.
I like that Wenger's tools and designs are generally more innovative. (Victorinox's driver layer in the CyberTools being the lone exception) For instance, automatic locking screwdrivers, the small wrench, serrated scissors for cutting heavier things.
I guess in the end, they have their pros and cons, and you just don't care for their pros, so you're more of a Victorinox guy.
Most of my collection is Victorinox too, but I acquired most of them before I gave Wenger an open-minded chance.
Now I have 4 Wengers and probably more on the horizon. Maybe a Pocket Toolchest?
The old Travellers are probably my favourite Wengers, and an inline Phillips would be great ... not too fussed about 2D though. I'll probably continue to grab the occasional "old" Wenger or two from Tim and other members here when funds permit, and maybe one day I will eventually get round to doing a SAK modification of my own.
Wenger S18 Juinor Special Edition for the movie "Dolphin Tale", which in Germany is titled (translated) "My Friend the Dolphin".
Wenger S18 Juinor Special Edition for the movie "Dolphin Tale", which in Germany is titled (translated) "My Friend the Dolphin".
I love the blue colour on that one, but shouldn't that be S17?
I have 17 SI's. I guess that is love.
Truth be told, I feel a little guilty that I was such a stubborn Victorinox fanboy for all those years before finally really opening my mind to Wenger. If there were fewer people like me, and more open-minded folks, maybe they could have stayed independent. :(
Same story here. In my defence the first Wenger I got as an adult was second hand and was rotten; it fulfilled all the negative stereotypes people talk about. Put me right off them for ages. :-\ Then I got a Commander from Neil and absolutely loved it and happily got a few more.Truth be told, I feel a little guilty that I was such a stubborn Victorinox fanboy for all those years before finally really opening my mind to Wenger. If there were fewer people like me, and more open-minded folks, maybe they could have stayed independent. :(
I was the same way for quite a while, and not only with SAKs. I had the opinion that Wenger and Gerber were both cheap knockoff companies, not worthy of any thought. Boy has that changed - my standard loadout for a while now has been my MP450 and Evo 16.......
My story with Gerber is similar in that I picked up a Suspension in a store, thought it was rubbish and wrote off the whole Gerber line. ::) Happily I decided to give them a second chance and asked for a MP600 a couple of Christmases ago. Happily sliding pliers ever since. :D
My story with Gerber is similar in that I picked up a Suspension in a store, thought it was rubbish and wrote off the whole Gerber line. ::) Happily I decided to give them a second chance and asked for a MP600 a couple of Christmases ago. Happily sliding pliers ever since. :D
Gareth, do you ever find the Gerber can pinch the hell out of you if the pliers suddenly lose traction while gripping them hard? I got a blood blister on the palm of my hand in the 80s with the Gerbers first came out that I'll never forget, and wrote off the whole series. If this problem has been solved, do you know how?
Also, the original Multi-Plier didn't have the tip of the pliers protrude through the end of the tool. (which tends to eat sheaths) Have they solved this problem yet?
In my defence the first Wenger I got as an adult was second hand and was rotten
IIRC it was a Wenger Forrester. Funnily enough I found out that my first ever SAK was a Forrester as well, though that one was lost a long time ago when I was still a kid. Now I have an Evo17 and love it. Can we see a trend? :DQuoteIn my defence the first Wenger I got as an adult was second hand and was rotten
What model was it out of interest?
So is the Forester a Huntsman equivilent? What made it rotten?well on that particular one the springs were very flabby, the corkscrew was bent as was the blade. Turns out one of the liners was cracked. :\ I now don't think it was Wengers fault but just that it had had a hard life. at the time though it just confirmed all the bad things I had been told to expect.
Seems to me that what folk like about Wenger is the little improvements they make over the Vic standard (locking SD, metal mag glass, scaled ruler) and other innovations. Would that sound right?
Despite my earlier rant, I'm still a fan of the old stuff and a Traveller is back in my pocket again today
I tried to open a coffee can with my Wenger EvoGrip S16 this morning, and it was an epic FAIL. If that were a can of beans and I were stuck in the wilderness with nothing else to eat, I wouldn't have starved. But I would have sliced my fingers up, gotten infected, and died from gangrene.
It left sharp, jagged edges on both the outside AND inside of the cut lid, and I was only able to cut about 2" before it couldn't get purchase on the rim any more.
That said, I suppose this can opener was designed for smaller food cans, like 20 oz. and under, and for that, I recall it working just fine.
Wenger should beg and plead with Victorinox to "share" the can opener technology, or they should just leave the tool off altogether on any knife that is not aimed at campers. Replace it with a sturdy flat phillips and just admit that the common man doesn't need it any more.
(Wenger is owned by Vic) ::)Yes, I know. What is your point? It doesn't necessarily mean they allow spill-over of technology between the brands.
(Wenger is owned by Vic) ::)Yes, I know. What is your point? It doesn't necessarily mean they allow spill-over of technology between the brands.
Old 91mm Wenger.Oooh, that's a lovely old knife. When would you say it was made?
(http://forum.multitool.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=21658.0;attach=35986;image)
Old 91mm Wenger.
Old 91mm Wenger.
<closed-image> (http://forum.multitool.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=21658.0;attach=35986;image)
Oooh, that's a lovely old knife. When would you say it was made?
My guess is the 1920's. Wenger used this same shield on their carbon-steel knives that had fiber handles, which would be before 1921 or so and the new stainless steel with a metal shield with crossbow and caplifter with scraper - as shown by photo in the sequence on page 43 of the SAK Owner's Manual. The Wenger history is always a bit mysterious.I was thinking it was maybe a bit newer than that given the rivet style, high polish, and great condition. It might be fairly early in the life of the Tahara brand as I have to think the red enamel sheild (I think it's enamel) is quite fancy and they wanted to show this as a premium model. I'm not sure if when they started the Tahara brand for SAKs if they were still making the Tahara polishing machines or if that was history. It would be good to know when Tahara really got started as a SAK brand.
It is interesting that Wenger had a caplifter on their screwdriver in the carbon steel days (yours appears stainless) - long before Victorinox had a caplifter on their 'driver.
Could be the Tahara name on SAKs came before the Tahara machines for the tumble-polishing of silverware which were sold to cruise lines in the 1920s and '30s - "the last machine sold to the Hotel Schweitzerhof in Bern in 1942." ....Yes, it could be, and seems like it probably was. I just checked information published by Wenger and the name was trademarked in 1910, and as you say the last machine was sold in Bern in 1942. It would seem that it would have appeared on a pocket knife before the polishers based on the trademark date, or at least before the sales of the polishers were completed. It was probably used on tableware first given the trademark date. I'm not sure, but I think Wenger is saying the Red Crossbow w/SUISSE logo is only preceeded by the very similar crossbow logo without SUISSE (and of course no logo on the scales), and then followed by the metal variations.
Wow, I love this one, was it a special run for somebody? I wish it was a T8 though. Great find :salute:
Wenger Computer Wiz (#16952), with T-10 Torx screwdriver.Nice! I've been hoping to find one of those.
Came across this while trying to come up with some info on the Swiss Outdoorsman (no other info, but nice find :tu:), and figured I'd throw it in.
1940s Logo crossbow
1949 Geneva convention : to copy a Swiss Cross is forbidden.
1950 A patent application seem to contain Wengerinox in crossbow symbol
Left-hand Cyclist.
Wenger did a series of a half-dozen Left-handed (Main Gauche) knives. Not only were the notches on the blades reversed; the entire blade sequence was reversed.
Left-hand Cyclist.
Wenger did a series of a half-dozen Left-handed (Main Gauche) knives. Not only were the notches on the blades reversed; the entire blade sequence was reversed.
Is that technically still a Cyclist? :think: I mean that one has a small blade instaid of the nail file.
Left-hand Cyclist.
Wenger did a series of a half-dozen Left-handed (Main Gauche) knives. Not only were the notches on the blades reversed; the entire blade sequence was reversed.
Is that technically still a Cyclist? :think: I mean that one has a small blade instaid of the nail file.
Wow, that is a pretty rare bird. Do you happen to be left handed?Thanks!
Left-hand Cyclist.
Wenger did a series of a half-dozen Left-handed (Main Gauche) knives. Not only were the notches on the blades reversed; the entire blade sequence was reversed.
Does Wenger still make any of these lefty models? I gotta get my hands on one! :gimme:
Agreed. It's probably not one for the "plierphiles" :P who need the biggest possible pliers at all times. As a knife-centric tool though, it's an impressive bit of kit for the right person/scenario.some thoughts:
I do wish those scales were a little slimmer though :-\
Agreed. It's probably not one for the "plierphiles" :P who need the biggest possible pliers at all times. As a knife-centric tool though, it's an impressive bit of kit for the right person/scenario.some thoughts:
I do wish those scales were a little slimmer though :-\
yes it is on the larger side, also the "plierphiles" looking for the biggest plier is true, however Wenger 120mm or more correct 130mm got so many larger size functions is handy, many multitools today got ok size on the functions too but many also got so small functions that it would make them difficult to use, the saw on the Rangers is enough to cut thick wood, with the bits one get great momentum and one can custom make your tool for many tasks, the plier is in my opinion medium size and enough for much, knifeblade is there very good also, i feel the Wenger multitools fills a gap that many do not have and it is like you say people looking for the best plier and the multitool become much like just a plier many times.....
Does Wenger still make any of these lefty models? I gotta get my hands on one! :gimme:
Three new arrivals for me today (actually two but I added a SAK for comparison).
All from local shops!
The first one is the "Pecheur" 1 45 03 know as Troller in the US market.
I had been looking for this baby for a long time!
...
The last two are very similar by each other and also compared to the US model "Survivor" (which has very minor differences).
On top is model 1 68 02 from the "Bardane" series and on bottom model 1 92 73 from the "Signal" series.
....
:ahhhNo not quite; I still need the Commander from the series. The group pictues posted to the wiki were from ColoSwiss, he has all the 85mm models, can't remember if he has the Esquire without ring. I'm not too worried though, I'm just very happy to get this model.
Nice one, so the set is now complete :D
I like them both but I find the 91mm Victorinox more usable. From Wenger I like the pliers, the springs of pliers/ scissors, the wrench, locking blade, "locking" screwdriver. Victorinox could implement all these since they own Wenger but it seems they want to keep Wenger alive. I had a Tool Chest Plus and although I liked a lot the tools mentioned I hated the ruler/ compass (one could have 6 tools in it's place) the lack of tools on the back and missed the Victorinox hook, scissors, can opener (watchmaker's knife for me), small blade and mini screwdriver (although you can put one on Wenger). I also needed some more blades and the bits, so I could only find them on Vic XLT. This is my EDC now.I completely agree about the ruler/compass.
Mike Horn's Ranger seems great with no rival from Vic. I would get that for outdoors and a Swisschamp would complement it for all the tools it lacks.
Those screws are just for show, right? I think I remember that one from somewhere.
Anyone have one of the S14 Soft Touch models? I've been very interested in one, but have never seen one in a store to check out. The tool compliment seems just right for day to day EDC.
Thanks for the info. They look like nice SAKs, but they're pricey for what they are. If the handle is just covered, and not that durable, seems like it'd just be a waste of money, unless it was for shelf-queenage.Anyone have one of the S14 Soft Touch models? I've been very interested in one, but have never seen one in a store to check out. The tool compliment seems just right for day to day EDC.
I have two of the Tactiles; a 7-blade blue-grey version, and an 8-blade black version. Both have a main clip blade like the ones on the SwissBucks. The actual handle material appears to be a very thin neoprene layer applied to a standard red plastic handle, which is visible on the underside where it overlaps. I doubt it would hold up very well.
Thanks for the info. They look like nice SAKs, but they're pricey for what they are. If the handle is just covered, and not that durable, seems like it'd just be a waste of money, unless it was for shelf-queenage.Anyone have one of the S14 Soft Touch models? I've been very interested in one, but have never seen one in a store to check out. The tool compliment seems just right for day to day EDC.
I have two of the Tactiles; a 7-blade blue-grey version, and an 8-blade black version. Both have a main clip blade like the ones on the SwissBucks. The actual handle material appears to be a very thin neoprene layer applied to a standard red plastic handle, which is visible on the underside where it overlaps. I doubt it would hold up very well.
I have two of the Tactiles; a 7-blade blue-grey version, and an 8-blade black version. Both have a main clip blade like the ones on the SwissBucks. The actual handle material appears to be a very thin neoprene layer applied to a standard red plastic handle, which is visible on the underside where it overlaps. I doubt it would hold up very well.Nice! I just got the 3 layer traveler with clip point it has metallic blue shadow grass scale; essentially I think it is the same as your grey one, but in blue.
Just in. Wenger Left Hand Evo 14.
I saw sparks fly, from the corner of my eye:doh:
And when I turned, it was love at first sight
I said please excuse me, I didn't catch your na-
Oh, wait. Wenger. Not Winger. :whistle:
I saw sparks fly, from the corner of my eye:doh:
And when I turned, it was love at first sight
I said please excuse me, I didn't catch your na-
Oh, wait. Wenger. Not Winger. :whistle:
:D
Someones showing their age...
Mind you,your not wrong
Just in. Wenger Left Hand Evo 14.
Just in. Wenger Left Hand Evo 14.
Are they readily available? I had thought all the left-handed Wengers were discontinued long ago.
I have two of the Tactiles; a 7-blade blue-grey version, and an 8-blade black version. Both have a main clip blade like the ones on the SwissBucks. The actual handle material appears to be a very thin neoprene layer applied to a standard red plastic handle, which is visible on the underside where it overlaps. I doubt it would hold up very well.Nice! I just got the 3 layer traveler with clip point it has metallic blue shadow grass scale; essentially I think it is the same as your grey one, but in blue.
What's the equivalent Wenger model with the standard blade compared to your 8 blade one?
I had developed quite a crush on the S14 soft touch, but after what Karl said about the handle covering, I'm not so enthusiastic about possibly getting one after all.
Thanks for the info! :tu: The clip point is a big part of the appeal of the knife for me; never had such a beastie before.I had developed quite a crush on the S14 soft touch, but after what Karl said about the handle covering, I'm not so enthusiastic about possibly getting one after all.
The knife is basically a Traveler. If you're looking for something with a clip blade, you might keep an eye out for a SwissBuck Swiss Advantage.
Failing that, pick up an S14 soft touch and let us know how it holds up. :D
I REALLY want the Minathor... but I'm having a hard time justifying it. It's just so 'different' I'd love one to play with, just not sure it I want to spend $130 to have a toy. But it looks cool though! :D
Had this over on the Wenger thread where it went largely unnoticed.
A special model for the Alpine Club of Switzerland.
Ap Blaze 57, nice one in my collection, hope you like the picture :)interesting with evolution scales and the camo with realtree......I absolutely love that :drool:
(http://forum.multitool.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=32456.0;attach=39698;image)
Hello,
does anybody know something about this knife?
As you can see it has the very same configuration of the Fly Fisherman, but with the Backpacker figure on the scales.
I searched every catalog available, but I couldn't fing anything.
Interesting to note is that I was not able to find any model with the Backpacker figure on the scales without the slot for the tweezers
Hello,
does anybody know something about this knife?
As you can see it has the very same configuration of the Fly Fisherman, but with the Backpacker figure on the scales.
I searched every catalog available, but I couldn't fing anything.
Interesting to note is that I was not able to find any model with the Backpacker figure on the scales without the slot for the tweezers
furtherHello!
in the 1991 catalogue you see the fly fisherman with fly hook icon, this can also have the fish trout icon and also the old type and pad print like mine, mine have tweezer and not toothpick :)with euro number 1 19 25 fisherman , so this model got variations, and i have seen like i mentioned many backpacker Wengers....
With the help by forum member Reinier :cheers:, today I was finally able to complete the Left handed set from the 1990-1995 time period. :D
Was missing the Matterhorn Plus.
I am attaching a picture.
From top to bottom, left to right:
1 10 103 Viking 1 34 103 Skier
1 14 103 Traveler 1 17 103 Forester
1 35 111 Cyclist 1 31 103 Matterhorn Plus
:tu: :tu:
Will you upload the pics to SakWIKI too? I think we're missing this series in the Wenger pages.
:tu: :tu:
Will you upload the pics to SakWIKI too? I think we're missing this series in the Wenger pages.
Yes, sure.
I uploaded the pictures on the SAKWiki Gallery.
I think they are just too big, as I forgot to resize them.
I can't find a way to delete and re-upload the pictures.
I will ask ICanFixThat.
Getting to the point.Is that a telescoping pointer I see in those? :o
Wenger Director with phillips and Manager with corkscrew. Also a small 4-blade model I don't have a name for.
Getting to the point.Is that a telescoping pointer I see in those? :o
Wenger Director with phillips and Manager with corkscrew. Also a small 4-blade model I don't have a name for.
That would be worth giving up my laser pointer for when giving lectures!!! Uber-retro-cool!!! :drool:
Wenger Passports
(http://forum.multitool.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=32456.0;attach=38142;image)
.....That's a super find!
I visited a shop during the weekend, and I found this old set by Wenger.
The Esquire is the same as the one shown above by ICanFixThat, plus a Traveler is also included.
Given the name "Elle&Lui - Lui&Elle", it makes more sense to sell the knives in pairs.
Don't know why the Esquire was sold alone (I saw it for sale many times on ebay, but always without the Traveler).
...
(http://forum.multitool.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=32456.0;attach=40878;image)
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I swapped my Vic Soldier for a Wenger SI which I received today - and I'm much more impressed with the SI; The bail is a great improvement for me and the extra belly of the blade is good too.
(http://i923.photobucket.com/albums/ad80/magentus2112/100_0269.jpg)
Repost from Latest SAKs thread:
Just in; the blue American version (to go with the red European version) of the Wenger SGT Shortex-Plus capillary tube cutter for gas chromatographic chemical analysis. The gold-plated wheels contain a spring-loaded diamond glass cutter, with the magnifying glass to examine the cut. Also other tools for working on lab equipment.
The blue one was at one time imported by Hewlitt-Packard. They are now imported by Agilent Technologies. If you really want one you can get it here - only $395. :D
http://www.chem.agilent.com/store/ProductDetail.aspx?productID=5182-9765(Agilent) (http://www.chem.agilent.com/store/ProductDetail.aspx?productID=5182-9765(Agilent))
And from the UK.
http://www.stratlab.co.uk/stratlab/value/ItemDesc.asp?IC=S0040#.UL0ZWiD5mSo (http://www.stratlab.co.uk/stratlab/value/ItemDesc.asp?IC=S0040#.UL0ZWiD5mSo)
And a different Wenger Tool:
http://www.stratlab.co.uk/stratlab/value/Itemdesc.asp?ic=S0050&eq=&Tp=#.UL1TRaX3DJw (http://www.stratlab.co.uk/stratlab/value/Itemdesc.asp?ic=S0050&eq=&Tp=#.UL1TRaX3DJw)
It's there, but you need a machinists eye to spot it.
The blade on my Farmer measures 14mm at the widest point, the blade on my SI is 14.3mm. (both with unused factory edge)
Side by side you can see there is more curve on the Wenger blade.
It's there, but you need a machinists eye to spot it.
The blade on my Farmer measures 14mm at the widest point, the blade on my SI is 14.3mm. (both with unused factory edge)
Side by side you can see there is more curve on the Wenger blade.
Repost from Latest SAKs thread:
Just in; the blue American version (to go with the red European version) of the Wenger SGT Shortex-Plus capillary tube cutter for gas chromatographic chemical analysis. The gold-plated wheels contain a spring-loaded diamond glass cutter, with the magnifying glass to examine the cut. Also other tools for working on lab equipment.
The blue one was at one time imported by Hewlitt-Packard. They are now imported by Agilent Technologies. If you really want one you can get it here - only $395. :D
http://www.chem.agilent.com/store/ProductDetail.aspx?productID=5182-9765(Agilent) (http://www.chem.agilent.com/store/ProductDetail.aspx?productID=5182-9765(Agilent))
And from the UK.
http://www.stratlab.co.uk/stratlab/value/ItemDesc.asp?IC=S0040#.UL0ZWiD5mSo (http://www.stratlab.co.uk/stratlab/value/ItemDesc.asp?IC=S0040#.UL0ZWiD5mSo)
And a different Wenger Tool:
http://www.stratlab.co.uk/stratlab/value/Itemdesc.asp?ic=S0050&eq=&Tp=#.UL1TRaX3DJw (http://www.stratlab.co.uk/stratlab/value/Itemdesc.asp?ic=S0050&eq=&Tp=#.UL1TRaX3DJw)
I had those Stratlab links saved on my pc for ages, always waiting for a price reduction.
But I don't have much hope.
As long as they are considered lab tools, I don't think we will see them sold for a "normal" price, i.e. a SAK price.
Karl, as I told you in the other topic, you got a great find!
the extra belly of the blade is good too.
I'm not a big fan of the Evo scales, but when I saw this I decided to buy as it has an unusual configuration.
I think that the only other "big" Wenger with the watch case opener tool is the Minathor.
I searched the web but haven't found any information about tis knife. Seems like a special run made for Longines.
the extra belly of the blade is good too.
I do not see any extra belly on my Wenger SI compared with 93 mm Vic alox (Soldier, Farmer, Solo, etc). What is different for the main blade as I see is that the SI has as cons a thinner tang and uglier finished spine and as pros a thicher blade spine towards the middle and tip (especially compared to the current non-Solo Vic blade, which are thinner there).
I'm not a big fan of the Evo scales, but when I saw this I decided to buy as it has an unusual configuration.
I think that the only other "big" Wenger with the watch case opener tool is the Minathor.
I searched the web but haven't found any information about tis knife. Seems like a special run made for Longines.
I'm not a big fan of the Evo scales, but when I saw this I decided to buy as it has an unusual configuration.
I think that the only other "big" Wenger with the watch case opener tool is the Minathor.
I searched the web but haven't found any information about tis knife. Seems like a special run made for Longines.
Neat! I also did some digging and came up blank.
Wouldn't mind having one, but given the price of Longines watches, I suspect its out of my price range.
That really is an interesting piece!
I'm not a big fan of the Evo scales, but when I saw this I decided to buy as it has an unusual configuration.
I think that the only other "big" Wenger with the watch case opener tool is the Minathor.
I searched the web but haven't found any information about tis knife. Seems like a special run made for Longines.
Here's a matrix showing the basic breakdown of 7-blade Wengers.Maybe not better that the Doc, but saves downloading the doc and if you don't have Word.
If someone can get it to show up better, please do so.
Reworked the Wenger 7-blade matrix to include more information. Also incorporated ICFT's ideas.Cosmetic Adjustments and converted to image. (image quality does not appear as good in IE as on my original, FireFox is better, but still not the same, downloading may allow better viewing).
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How would you compare it to the metal 50?Really totally different knives, but the Metal 50 is nice to.
I don't even know if I like the Porsche Design ones or not, but I know I want one :D
Lovely pics :tu:
Porsche Design - Edition-1
Porsche Design - Edition 1 -- P'3700 ...continued from previous post
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How to unscrew a smallish phillips with the Traveler or corkscrew model? That is a question I have been pondering. When I was younger I think I always had Teton based models so the question never came up, but I have been using an SI lately and I rather like the can opener/driver.
Cheers
Wenger appearently changed from brown fiber to red plastic handles on their standard models some time in the mid 1930s. Also changed the screwdriver/bottle opener about that time. There are several different types of shield on the fiber handles. Models without shield also show up from time to time, but whether they predate the shields or were simply a variation (lower cost?) is unknown (at least to me).I remember hearing that plastics eventually disintegrate after 60-80 years; some of the earliest plastics in museums have liquified. It would be interesting to know if some of the early plastic handles are still intact.
In any event a very nice find. :tu:
Looks like a red s16 is available, also consider the teton and traveller but those are not locking nor do they have the evo grips.
I used to have a Teton with the main blade being serrated. I wish I still had that one!
Sorry to hear its lost. A rare item that I've never seen before.Well, believe me or not, just got a call from my secretary that a package arrived.
Wow! I know I'd have given up all hope of it showing after two months. Very glad you got it in the end. :tu:Sorry to hear its lost. A rare item that I've never seen before.Well, believe me or not, just got a call from my secretary that a package arrived.
The knife is here!!!!!!! :woohoo:
This set a new record for me:
Priority Mail package sent from the USA on 27 November 2012
Italian Customs charged the duties on 19 January 2013
Arrived on 25 January 2013
Almost 2 months!!!!!!
Anyway, never loose hope.
Will post some pictures later.
Wow! I know I'd have given up all hope of it showing after two months. Very glad you got it in the end. :tu:Sorry to hear its lost. A rare item that I've never seen before.Well, believe me or not, just got a call from my secretary that a package arrived.
The knife is here!!!!!!! :woohoo:
This set a new record for me:
Priority Mail package sent from the USA on 27 November 2012
Italian Customs charged the duties on 19 January 2013
Arrived on 25 January 2013
Almost 2 months!!!!!!
Anyway, never loose hope.
Will post some pictures later.
Sorry to hear its lost. A rare item that I've never seen before.Well, believe me or not, just got a call from my secretary that a package arrived.
The knife is here!!!!!!! :woohoo:
This set a new record for me:
Priority Mail package sent from the USA on 27 November 2012
Italian Customs charged the duties on 19 January 2013
Arrived on 25 January 2013
Almost 2 months!!!!!!
Anyway, never loose hope.
Will post some pictures later.
Sorry to hear its lost. A rare item that I've never seen before.Well, believe me or not, just got a call from my secretary that a package arrived.
The knife is here!!!!!!! :woohoo:
This set a new record for me:
Priority Mail package sent from the USA on 27 November 2012
Italian Customs charged the duties on 19 January 2013
Arrived on 25 January 2013
Almost 2 months!!!!!!
Anyway, never loose hope.
Will post some pictures later.
A few years back the Regional Mail Handling Facility in northern Virginia rented a bunch of semi trailers to hold the overflow during the Christmas rush. Next summer some supervisor started wondering why they were still taking up space in the parking lot. You guessed it; they were still full of undelivered Christmas cards and packages.
Glad you finally got your knife. :tu:
Wow, some heads better have rolled for that mega-blunder :viking:
Wenger Memories :salute:
(http://forum.multitool.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=32456.0;attach=44232;image)
Wow... love the carbon fibre! :tu:Sorry for the confusion, the image file-name was incorrect, this model is a Commander like the other Jorg Hysek editions. I think putting 'Traveler' in the file name was wishful thinking on my part.
What model is that?
A picture...Really Nice!
<image (http://forum.multitool.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=32456.0;attach=44332;image)>
Awww... I got all excited :(
Wow... love the carbon fibre! :tu:Sorry for the confusion, the image file-name was incorrect, this model is a Commander like the other Jorg Hysek editions. I think putting 'Traveler' in the file name was wishful thinking on my part.
What model is that?A picture...Really Nice!
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I think i´m a bit OT here, but the question is too little to get it´s own thread.
I have a black scaled 85 mm Wenger with the toolset of the "Forester", i.e opener layer, saw, scissors, blade layer, corkscrew and awl on the back - except that it has no nailfile but a small clip point blade beside the standard big one. What model is this? (Basically it´s equipped like a vic Huntsman)
I´ll add some pics soon, i promise.
It has neither tweezer nor corkscrew and has teh older standard scales, teh printed Logo is just white, not white/red.
Nice Camo Wenger Teton. The grey coating on the tools, can't remember what it's called, is nice and great to have on the scissors.
(http://forum.multitool.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=32456.0;attach=44630;image)
Wenger Champ (I think) Model 1.28.03.
(http://forum.multitool.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=32456.0;attach=44632;image)
Wenger SpotLite
Quick and dirty pics... but maybe better than nothing. I'll have better ones for the Wiki at some point.
(http://forum.multitool.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=32456.0;attach=44654;image)
Wenger SpotLite
Quick and dirty pics... but maybe better than nothing. I'll have better ones for the Wiki at some point.
(http://forum.multitool.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=32456.0;attach=44654;image)
how is the construction and feel of the spotLite Wenger` quality?
My latest aquisitions
Family photo
My latest aquisitions
Family photo
....going down that road you though you would never go......
My latest aquisitions
Family photo
....going down that road you though you would never go......
:D Well ...
One is being kept till a kid is old enough
Four are mod fodder
Three will be going up for sale
Three are new, to be explored/considered
One was a gift and is a user
Four are bought users
Nothing's changed ;)
Congratulations for your finds!A picture of the Spot Light without the scissors would be great on the wiki.
I do have both variations of the Spot Light, with scissor and without.
Do you need pictures of the model without scissors for the Wiki?
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My latest aquisitions
Family photo
....going down that road you though you would never go......
:D Well ...
One is being kept till a kid is old enough
Four are mod fodder
Three will be going up for sale
Three are new, to be explored/considered
One was a gift and is a user
Four are bought users
Nothing's changed ;)
:whistle:
Congratulations for your finds!A picture of the Spot Light without the scissors would be great on the wiki.
I do have both variations of the Spot Light, with scissor and without.
Do you need pictures of the model without scissors for the Wiki?
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Did you happen to notice your pictures deployed on the special Left-Handed page? I did end up in resizing and cleaning them for that page because the large ones took too long to load from the SAKwiki server, they have links to the larger full sized ones though.
Wenger Colonel or Oberst. An old-time SAK with more traditional tools including the small-blade vs. the more common nail-file on later Wenger models.
(http://forum.multitool.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=32456.0;attach=44727;image)
Nice Camo Wenger Teton. The grey coating on the tools, can't remember what it's called, is nice and great to have on the scissors.
(http://forum.multitool.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=32456.0;attach=44630;image)
An interesting point about the camouflage Wengers is that the American versions had matte blades, while the European versions had bright polished blades. I'm not a big fan of camo knives (too easy to lose), but if you're going to have one you probably should have the blade also camouflaged.
:tu: on the Champ, also sold as Classic 28. A trio of nice finds.
One more quick one.
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My latest aquisitions
Family photo
....going down that road you though you would never go......
nice! it is the same material on the scales like the Dynasty models?,i got a Dynasty Ivanhoe and just incredible made handles for sureNo I don't think so, the Dynasty series is something different. I've seen some documentation that it was enamel, which would seem to make sense, as it's very dark, and Wenger worked with enameled scales on the Tuxedo, and Macao products.
I found really great offer to buy Wenger S557, but I'm worried about one thing:
On one side is regular Evo red scale and on the other side is EvoGrip red & black?
On the Evo scale there is writing-Exclusivities and also on the box.
Number on the box is 1 557 59 399.
Is this real deal?
Here is an intersting SI/Soldat. Typically you would never have advertising on a Soldier, or at least Swiss only advertising if the knife has the federal shield, but here you have US advertising and the Swiss Shield. The knife is undated, and I presume they decided to do this after the 93mm was replaced as standard issue, but I don't know for sure.
(http://forum.multitool.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=32456.0;attach=44741;image)
Wenger Colonel or Oberst. An old-time SAK with more traditional tools including the small-blade vs. the more common nail-file on later Wenger models.
(http://forum.multitool.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=32456.0;attach=44727;image)
Wenger Colonel or Oberst. An old-time SAK with more traditional tools including the small-blade vs. the more common nail-file on later Wenger models.
(http://forum.multitool.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=32456.0;attach=44727;image)
Verrry Interesting. What is the blade combination on the 'Oberst'? I've never seen that name before, and am wondering if its a new model or only a different name.
Thanks
Wenger Colonel or Oberst. An old-time SAK with more traditional tools including the small-blade vs. the more common nail-file on later Wenger models.
(http://forum.multitool.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=32456.0;attach=44727;image)
Verrry Interesting. What is the blade combination on the 'Oberst'? I've never seen that name before, and am wondering if its a new model or only a different name.
Thanks
Take a look here:
http://forum.multitool.org/index.php/topic,42953
here is a video 5-6 minutes into this video you will see the modified S557 exclusivities knife,. Wenger Swiss Army Knife 2010 Overview (Video 1) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=La9oScIV-Vs#) ps one side translucent but i would expect your into the same area, maybe others can tell more,
This is a knife I bought on ebay as well.
Basically a Cyclist (with the small blade instead of the nail file, as usually shown in the models sold in Europe), but with a strange horse logo embossed on the front scales.
:think:
While taking pictures of the Spot Light for the wiki, I got a couple of additional shots.nice find, thanks for pictures :)
This is what I bought some time ago on ebay.
I believe this is a Master Tool 13.
The wiki shows a picture of a model with red Evo scales.
Mine has standard green scales with the Orvis logo.
I think the Master Tool 13 is quite a rare variation
interesting, i have never seen a horse icon on the scale, it reminds me about icons or symbols to remind or fit once hobby or interest,. it is in the correct place maybe, but it is or look to be made by a private person or so, first Wenger did use the embossed or what looks like a hot stamp type with color like you know, then the pad print, i have seen one time one or two SAKs that private people or owners have made engravings on them, hmm.. :tu:
Francis,Well not really; many of these are from before the announcement, just never got around to taking their picture because there are just too many pictures that need to be taken. However I decided to concentrate on Wenger pictures for a while, and just do some cheap snap shots quickly. A couple I've known about for years, but never bought... but the announcement made me buy them. A couple were also very recent ebay buys, like the nice 700yr commemorative, had only seen pictures of that in the past.
Looks like you've hit the Wenger jackpot! A lot of great stuff there. :tu:
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I believe this is a Master Tool 13.
The wiki shows a picture of a model with red Evo scales.
Mine has standard green scales with the Orvis logo.
I think the Master Tool 13 is quite a rare variation
The Orvis was sold as the 'Orvis 13 Special Edition', and had a unique blade combination that only they offered at the time. Their stock number was 89R60000. Don't have the red handled version.....
The Orvis was sold as the 'Orvis 13 Special Edition', and had a unique blade combination that only they offered at the time. Their stock number was 89R60000. Don't have the red handled version.
I have a 'Horse' in near-mint condition, but have no info on it. Don't know if that's its name, or what its model number is.
The 6-blade Spotlight without scissors was listed in one ad as the 'Executive Spotlight'. Its model number is 1 97 20.
see , here is the angle one usually see the icon, the skier got some angle but not like yours and the auction horse knife, the skier is a 1976 knife and from late 70s i have a few different icon knives with the old embossed or not sure what to call it hot stamped with color kind, later the pad print, if one see today the evolution knives got icon aswell, many of them have been changed, for example the best known backpacker is today a boot print
ps, the backpacker and the cyclist is angeled like your and the auction knife, so this mean your knife got the horse correct, so it seems to me your knife is genuine, hopefully others may tell..
see , here is the angle one usually see the icon, the skier got some angle but not like yours and the auction horse knife, the skier is a 1976 knife and from late 70s i have a few different icon knives with the old embossed or not sure what to call it hot stamped with color kind, later the pad print, if one see today the evolution knives got icon aswell, many of them have been changed, for example the best known backpacker is today a boot print
ps, the backpacker and the cyclist is angeled like your and the auction knife, so this mean your knife got the horse correct, so it seems to me your knife is genuine, hopefully others may tell..
Nice Seafarer there!
Have a look at this picture from Stressmaster5000
https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/2aiKbfQtU-EHO7zjIVtj3NMTjNZETYmyPJy0liipFm0?feat=embedwebsite
There were other old models made with animals
(http://forum.multitool.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=32456.0;attach=44904;image)Nice collection! :tu:
....My fault; I failed to note the 60% serrated blade on the Master Tool 13. I updated the wiki page. I added the Orvis as a variation, but noted it was likely the first model with this tool configuration. I should have bought more of these when I had the chance.
I believe, unless I was negligent, that the Master Tool 13 does not have a serrated blade, so the Orvis one would have a tool variation also. I'll try to double check this as I look at my Wengers for pictures.
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Here's a selection of Wenger imprints. Most of these are unique to a certain model. However note the two different models using the duck in photo 1. The fishing lure has been used a number of times. The ones in the bottom shot are modern stylized versions mainly found on the Evos.
My little contribution for today ... ;)Nice pictures!
Does anybody share my fascination with the Wenger sports models (Skier, Soccer, Snowboard, Shredder, Mountain Bike, Biker, Pocket Mountain Bike, Rollerblader, etc)?
So many specialty tools. Some of them aren't that practical. But for a gadget freak ... pretty cool. I want a Shredder and a Mountain Bike or Evo Biker 37. You never find reviews of these, however. These models may, in fact, be evidence of Wenger's over specialization here. I guess.
Here's a selection of Wenger imprints. Most of these are unique to a certain model. However note the two different models using the duck in photo 1. The fishing lure has been used a number of times. The ones in the bottom shot are modern stylized versions mainly found on the Evos.
Very nice Karl!
I also have the two Duck variations.
Do you have any reference about the bigger Duck?
I bought it from Felinevet a while back, but was not able to find any reference or catalog number for it.
Carlo,
The larger Duck has a US model number of 16957. On the other hand I don't have any info on the small Duck. Do you know its correct name and number?
Thanks,
Karl
Carlo,
The larger Duck has a US model number of 16957. On the other hand I don't have any info on the small Duck. Do you know its correct name and number?
Thanks,
Karl
Karl,
many thanks for the information!
My small Duck has the same configuration as the one shown on this picture from stressmaster5000
https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/2aiKbfQtU-EHO7zjIVtj3NMTjNZETYmyPJy0liipFm0?feat=embedwebsite
the small Duck is called "Duck" model number 16991
Carlo,
The larger Duck has a US model number of 16957. On the other hand I don't have any info on the small Duck. Do you know its correct name and number?
Thanks,
Karl
Karl,
many thanks for the information!
My small Duck has the same configuration as the one shown on this picture from stressmaster5000
https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/2aiKbfQtU-EHO7zjIVtj3NMTjNZETYmyPJy0liipFm0?feat=embedwebsite
the small Duck is called "Duck" model number 16991
After much looking through the ebay "completed" auction search menu, I was able to find the auction
Auction is: 140898555927
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Swiss-Arm-Knives-Lot-/140898555927?
Seems to me the horse was made by the factory.
Hope Karl will know something.
I have a 'Horse' in near-mint condition, but have no info on it. Don't know if that's its name, or what its model number is.
Here's an unusual Wenger, labeled 'Ski Tour'. Somewhat similar to a 'Nomad', but a pliers instead of a scissors, nail file instead of a pen blade, and no lock. Came in a box for another model, so no other info on it. Looks like a pretty useful combination.Interesting, nice find!
After much looking through the ebay "completed" auction search menu, I was able to find the auction
Auction is: 140898555927
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Swiss-Arm-Knives-Lot-/140898555927?
Seems to me the horse was made by the factory.
Hope Karl will know something.
I have a 'Horse' in near-mint condition, but have no info on it. Don't know if that's its name, or what its model number is.
Hey,
I was looking again at the picture from the ebay auction I linked above, and I guess we have the name and catalog number for the "horse"!!!!!
On the box is written "Mustang" catalog number 16952, if I did read correctly.
Sorry, I didn't notice this before!
Following is the box from the auction's image cropped and rotated
(http://img407.imageshack.us/img407/8681/clipboard01iw.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/407/clipboard01iw.jpg/)
My little contribution for today ... ;)
(http://forum.multitool.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=32456.0;attach=44928;image)
(http://forum.multitool.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=32456.0;attach=44930;image)
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I have a 'Horse' in near-mint condition, but have no info on it. Don't know if that's its name, or what its model number is.
The Tradesman is one of my favorite SAKs. :tu:
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I have a 'Horse' in near-mint condition, but have no info on it. Don't know if that's its name, or what its model number is.
ColoSwiss, Thanks for the image of the great condition Mustang. I used this image for the SAKwiki page on this knife. Boy whoever won that auction on the 23rd got one heck of a deal.
Guys check this rare Wenger knife that is for sell in Ebay:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Wenger-Wood-Jr-Swiss-Army-Knife-Complete-in-box-w-papers-Discontinued-Model-New-/130851625636?pt=Collectible_Knives&hash=item1e775d5aa4
I have never seeing it before.
From the tools i can see (and the box), is a genuine Wenger knife.
Too bad the seller doesn't send to Europe. >:(
The Wood 01 was a 2009 collaboration with EKA of Sweden who supplied wooden scales, and these scales used large brass fittings for mounting that also replaced the typical rivets used to assemble the knives (the brass fittings appear structural, but could be for decoration). This variation does not include the Toothpick or Tweezers.
Guys check this rare Wenger knife that is for sell in Ebay:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Wenger-Wood-Jr-Swiss-Army-Knife-Complete-in-box-w-papers-Discontinued-Model-New-/130851625636?pt=Collectible_Knives&hash=item1e775d5aa4
I have never seeing it before.
From the tools i can see (and the box), is a genuine Wenger knife.
Too bad the seller doesn't send to Europe. >:(
(http://forum.multitool.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=32456.0;attach=45262;image)
Hello,
I'm attaching pictures of what I believe is a great find!
When I first saw the knife, I thought it was probably a special order made for some company, as I never saw, in the Ranger line, the marlinspike tool equipped in a no-Alinghi knife.
The orange color, as seen on some european-only Wenger Ranger, was interesting too.
Well, after researching a bit, I found some interesting information.
From the Wenger site
http://www.wenger.ch/spearfishing-world-championship
it appears to be a special run made by Wenger to commemorate the 27th Spearfishing World Championship which was held in Croatia on 2010.
According to the link above the knife was given to all participants to use in the competition.
According, also, to the first document found on the bottom of this page
http://www.cmas.org/spearfishing/114-29019-php
there were in total 63 competitors.
I think there were probably more knives made, but not too many.
Hello,
I'm attaching pictures of what I believe is a great find!
When I first saw the knife, I thought it was probably a special order made for some company, as I never saw, in the Ranger line, the marlinspike tool equipped in a no-Alinghi knife.
The orange color, as seen on some european-only Wenger Ranger, was interesting too.
Well, after researching a bit, I found some interesting information.
From the Wenger site
http://www.wenger.ch/spearfishing-world-championship
it appears to be a special run made by Wenger to commemorate the 27th Spearfishing World Championship which was held in Croatia on 2010.
According to the link above the knife was given to all participants to use in the competition.
According, also, to the first document found on the bottom of this page
http://www.cmas.org/spearfishing/114-29019-php
there were in total 63 competitors.
I think there were probably more knives made, but not too many.
Any idea of what it is?
I don't have big knowledge on the 65mm models, but it seems almost an hybrid between a Macao and a Lithos.
Right now I'm calling this a Mac-ithos :D
Wenger SI without cross...
http://forum.multitool.org/index.php/topic,21658.msg694345.html#msg694345
Wenger SI without cross...
http://forum.multitool.org/index.php/topic,21658.msg694345.html#msg694345 (http://forum.multitool.org/index.php/topic,21658.msg694345.html#msg694345)
Seems to be a regular item. Perhaps Wenger run out of frontscales :)
On the box it is described as "Swiss Army 70 sans croix" and it has a number AF.1.070.001.000.01 and was made 07/2012
that would be my guess as well.Seems to be a regular item. Perhaps Wenger run out of frontscales :)
On the box it is described as "Swiss Army 70 sans croix" and it has a number AF.1.070.001.000.01 and was made 07/2012
So an added .01 to the standard. More likely they aren't allowed to use the official shield anymore as they are no longer under the government contract, so they are using up their back scales.
Any idea of what it is?
I don't have big knowledge on the 65mm models, but it seems almost an hybrid between a Macao and a Lithos.
Right now I'm calling this a Mac-ithos :D
Its a 'Blue Marble' Macao, with lacquered handles.
http://www.sakwiki.com/show_image.php?id=1810
(the photo is of my collection. :D)
Seems to be a regular item. Perhaps Wenger run out of frontscales :)Never saw this variation before!
On the box it is described as "Swiss Army 70 sans croix" and it has a number AF.1.070.001.000.01 and was made 07/2012
Any idea of what it is?
I don't have big knowledge on the 65mm models, but it seems almost an hybrid between a Macao and a Lithos.
Right now I'm calling this a Mac-ithos :D
Its a 'Blue Marble' Macao, with lacquered handles.
http://www.sakwiki.com/show_image.php?id=1810
(the photo is of my collection. :D)
Nice collection!
So it is possible to have a Macao with the ceramic nail file, like on mine example?
Wow, very nice find. :tu: Never seen this one. If you find any more info or need something on it translated from Croatian, let me know. I'd be happy to help. :salute:
All my Macaos have the regular steel nail file. Forgot the Lithos had the ceramic files. Was so busy looking at the handle I didn't pay attention to the blades. Went through my other fancy Esquires and only the Lithos have them. Nice find! :tu:
Alox traveller with the locking blade, very nice.
(http://forum.multitool.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=32456.0;attach=45270;image)Great Find! Has to be pretty unique!
(http://forum.multitool.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=32456.0;attach=45262;image)Very Nice!
"Swiss Army 70 sans croix" and it has a number AF.1.070.001.000.01 and was made 07/2012
(http://forum.multitool.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=32456.0;attach=45278;image)
Understood. I had already planned to pick up some Lock-Tite this weekend and give the Tradesman some attention. Lock-Tite is good stuff to have around anyway.
I was lucky I didn't lose the screw altogether. What a pain that would have been to replace .... probably easier and possibly cheaper just to buy another used knife.
Any idea of what it is?
I don't have big knowledge on the 65mm models, but it seems almost an hybrid between a Macao and a Lithos.
Right now I'm calling this a Mac-ithos :D
I've had my first three Wenger 85mm's for about a week now and have to say I'm underwhelmed...As has already been mentioned... "There's your problem!" :whistle:
These three were all used models, ...
As has already been mentioned... "There's your problem!" :whistle:
My new Evo S14 is a great little SAK! It's been my primary pocket carry SAK from the day I got it. F & F are just as good as Vic's IMHO and there are some things I like about the Evo better than the comparable Vics.
I've got an S16, S52, and S557 all on my wish list now.
Absolutely :ahhh Good luck with it all, and don't forget to post how you get on :salute:
Absolutely :ahhh Good luck with it all, and don't forget to post how you get on :salute:
Well, I bought some Lock-Tite last night and redid the scissors screw. The Lock-Tite is less viscous (i.e. more watery) than I had expected and, consequently, I'm not sure how much of it is actually on the the threads. It's more than a bit fiddly to align the scissor blades and get that tiny screw threaded and screwed in with only two hands and a Vic mini screwdriver. But I'm sure at least a tiny amount of Lock-Tite is in there now and am hoping for the best.
If this doesn't hold well, I may try unscrewing it slightly and applying the Lock-Tite from the bottom and then retightening (but not over tightening) the screw. I put the drop of Lock-Tite in the hole before putting in the screw, which is a delicate operation as described above.
Anyway, a boring story for you ... but you asked! ;)
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Fly fisherman catch, new.
Nice one :tu: I'd allow it twice the cure time it says on the packaging then try it with a screwdriver. At least that way you can have another crack at it by backfilling the hole as you said :salute:
Very nice, congratulations!
(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/jladks/toys/7-IMG_4331.jpg)
Fly fisherman catch, new.
Too bad that someone used too much the ceramic file.
Very nice, congratulations!
(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/jladks/toys/7-IMG_4331.jpg)
Fly fisherman catch, new.
I think it is the model also known as Catch and Release.
Too bad that someone used too much the ceramic file.
Nice find :tu: :tu: :tu: :tu:
(http://i1309.photobucket.com/albums/s625/mikey_likey1/DSC_2661_zps924f8539.jpg)
Portrait Session with my 557
I suggest you to discuss, then.
The Wenger is new.
The file came like that and does not look used.
I assumed it was like that on the side to allow sharpening of hooks etc.
If you think it was used then I may need to discuss it with the seller
(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/jladks/toys/1-IMG_4325.jpg)
(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/jladks/toys/7-IMG_4331.jpg)
(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/jladks/toys/2-IMG_4326.jpg)
Fly fisherman catch, new.
I like it... definetly looks intentional. Was that an ebay buy-it-now deal I missed?
You scored! :cheers:
....found it... great deal... looks like I missed it twice
Here's a better shot of the three file variations.Oh man if only you had posted it a bit sooner... OK I could not help it... my OCD kicked in and I spent a couple hours taking it apart and putting it back together. Luckily I do learn something from these exercises.
Here's a better shot of the three file variations.Oh man if only you had posted it a bit sooner... OK I could not help it... my OCD kicked in and I spent a couple hours taking it apart and putting it back together. Luckily I do learn something from these exercises.
I don't know if I noticed this before, but maybe that's why I buy the same knives again just to rediscover them. Here these old Wenger Scissors happen to have a maker's stamp which I thought was pretty cool. On this knife the smal blade, which Wenger marks some times, does not have a stamp.
(http://forum.multitool.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=32456.0;attach=45558;image)
A couple slightly different Wengers. A Grafter/Budding knife with a different logo, and a more teal-green Patriot with no logos.
I don't know if I noticed this before, but maybe that's why I buy the same knives again just to rediscover them. Here these old Wenger Scissors happen to have a maker's stamp which I thought was pretty cool. On this knife the smal blade, which Wenger marks some times, does not have a stamp.
(http://forum.multitool.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=32456.0;attach=45558;image)
A Wenger Motorist. I'd really like this model more if it had the small blade rather than the nail file. It has a nice general tool collection though for a medium+ SAK.I agree, love this model.
A Wenger Motorist. I'd really like this model more if it had the small blade rather than the nail file. It has a nice general tool collection though for a medium+ SAK.I agree, love this model.
Untill now I was able to find three different sub-variants:
1) without the old car logo;
2) with the old car logo embossed/hot stamped (like in the picture above);
3) with the old car logo printed (more recent)
A Wenger Motorist. I'd really like this model more if it had the small blade rather than the nail file. It has a nice general tool collection though for a medium+ SAK.I agree, love this model.
Untill now I was able to find three different sub-variants:
1) without the old car logo;
2) with the old car logo embossed/hot stamped (like in the picture above);
3) with the old car logo printed (more recent)
Carlo,
Here are three of the Motorist, two of them with St. Christopher (with and without bail).
Thanks for the heads-up on the Realtree Snow; hadn't seen that before.
Karl
I have a little love for Wenger SI :tu:Nice picture!
No problems, since the Wenger/Victorinox models share the same name they are easy to confuse...plus your pictures are great anyway!
It would help if I learned to read. You're talking about WENGER Motorist; I'm showing VICTORINOX Motorist. :facepalm:
Getting to the point.
Wenger Director with phillips and Manager with corkscrew. Also a small 4-blade model I don't have a name for.
Here's a selection of Wenger imprints.
I have a little love for Wenger SI :tu:Nice picture!No problems, since the Wenger/Victorinox models share the same name they are easy to confuse...plus your pictures are great anyway!
It would help if I learned to read. You're talking about WENGER Motorist; I'm showing VICTORINOX Motorist. :facepalm:Getting to the point.
Wenger Director with phillips and Manager with corkscrew. Also a small 4-blade model I don't have a name for.
I just found myself this little variant, with red scales and a "CIBA" logo on the back (see attachments).
On the Sakwiki we have an entry for this model
http://www.sakwiki.com/tiki-index.php?page=Pointer
with the name "Pointer": is that name somehow confirmed?
I think that otherwise we could edit it, as this creates confusion with a completely different knife, but with the very same name.
I'm referring to the model with the "dog" image on the front scales, called "Pointer", catalog 16995.
Karl showed a picture of this model few pages back, and exactly hereHere's a selection of Wenger imprints.
I have a little love for Wenger SI :tu:
I have a little love for Wenger SI :tu:
That's a really big lanyard!
Figure while I had the knife out I'd take a couple of photos.Nice!
Wenger sucks compared to victorinox. IMO
Great stuff. Lovely pics as usual :tu:+1 Very nice Pics, and a very interesting model from Wenger. I'm looking for a second one, but I'm waiting for a really good price.
I'm not speaking for Space Cowboy, but I will say that one disappointing thing about Wenger models is that any time I find one that I think I'll like, I quickly find a complimentary Victorinox model that is much cheaper in price.Exactly what Moe said!
Today it was the Evowood models. I've been curious about those. I found a couple at what I thought were great prices (relative to what I've been seeing on eBay). Well, then I found a hardwood scaled Victorinox Huntsman that had more tools and was >25% less than the comparable Evowood that had a toolset like a Spartan.
I'm sorry to see the Wenger brand go, but if one of the two SAK brands had to go, I'm sure glad it was NOT Victorinox. Victorinox products are generally superior in overall F&F in my experience. And the great majority of the time they are cheaper to boot.
I'm not speaking for Space Cowboy, but I will say that one disappointing thing about Wenger models is that any time I find one that I think I'll like, I quickly find a complimentary Victorinox model that is much cheaper in price.Exactly what Moe said!
Today it was the Evowood models. I've been curious about those. I found a couple at what I thought were great prices (relative to what I've been seeing on eBay). Well, then I found a hardwood scaled Victorinox Huntsman that had more tools and was >25% less than the comparable Evowood that had a toolset like a Spartan.
I'm sorry to see the Wenger brand go, but if one of the two SAK brands had to go, I'm sure glad it was NOT Victorinox. Victorinox products are generally superior in overall F&F in my experience. And the great majority of the time they are cheaper to boot.
I just got my first Wenger, a brushed stainless traveler. The scissors bob up and down when you use them, so they are not really good for fine work. People complain about the dull Wenger awl, but the can opener can be pressed into service as a pokey thing. A solid little knife.
(http://i1199.photobucket.com/albums/aa466/sx975/brushedtravlr032013a_zpsb3f45685.jpg)
The universal wrench is interesting and got many variations.Thanks, interesting comparison!
I wonder if it was introduced in the early 70s?, on my picture i got models from 1980-1990s. All of them are different with small variations and one of the most important variations is the cutouts/notches to grab the bolts.
Other variations is the symbolic drawing that shows the use of it, easy to see if you look on your knives. You will also see the shape of this tool got different shapes over the years.
The reason for my impression it was introduced in the early 70s : - from other knives and a manual showing this tool early on.
(http://forum.multitool.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=32456.0;attach=45960;image)
That is a good wrench comparison. You don't mind if I steal that for the Wiki do you?
According to the Wenger Timeline on the wiki the wrench was released in 1977, this date appears to be based on product advertisements.
That is a good wrench comparison. You don't mind if I steal that for the Wiki do you?
According to the Wenger Timeline on the wiki the wrench was released in 1977, this date appears to be based on product advertisements.
thanks, yes you can use it on the SakWiki :)
1977 is interesting
i did not get it, sophomore? :) :tu:
yes now i see, lol ;)
i did not get it, sophomore? :) :tu:
High school ranks: 1st year is Freshman, 2nd year is Sophomore, 3rd year is Junior, 4th and final year for graduation is Senior. Least here in the US.
My Orvis Catch and Release (left) has the bright polished notch at the end. The standard Catch and Release has the notch coated with abrasive. The Troller and Angler (right) simply have the hook sharpening groove. So it looks like your uncoated notch isn't a flaw. However I have no idea what its used for.
About half the fishing knives I have have a fly lure on the handle, about half are plain.
Time Eclectic is a good outfit, got both of mine through them but on Amazon. Took a photo with my marginal iPad camera, hopefully good enough to see the wrench teeth...
Amazing. Was a sophomore in high school back then. :rofl: :D
My Orvis Catch and Release (left) has the bright polished notch at the end. The standard Catch and Release has the notch coated with abrasive. The Troller and Angler (right) simply have the hook sharpening groove. So it looks like your uncoated notch isn't a flaw. However I have no idea what its used for.
About half the fishing knives I have have a fly lure on the handle, about half are plain.
Karl,
could you post a picture of your "Angler" with the tools opened?
I'm not sure if the model I have (see attachments) is or not an Angler.
The box has the same catalog number as the "Troller"(1 45 03), but I found it listed as "Angler".
In fact my knife has exactly the same configuration as the Troller, not considering the fly lure on the front scale.
Is there any reference about the so called "Angler"?
I was not able to find any information about it.
To my surprise the cermic file of my knife has the notch discussed above.
Hi Carlo,
More fun-and-games with Wenger. The Troller (1.45.03 / 16962)(what you show above) was sold in at least one market as the Angler. The other Angler (1.44.03 / ? ) that I have is basically a Troller without the scissors. It was also sold as the Pecheur. I have versions both with a fly lure on the handle and plain.
Just got me one Swiss Army 70 sans croix as well and I like it (removed the bail first thing though).
I don't have the AP blaze, but if they are made like the Hardwoods serie (camo), the finish is just printed, so it will wear off with use.
Seeing the brilliant blaze orange camo model made me wonder, is that an applied finish that might wear off like on the Vics, or is it molded in?
some candy :)
(http://forum.multitool.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=32456.0;attach=46181;image)
Looks like you broke a tooth off trying to eat that candy :)
Looks like you hit the jackpot big time. That old Ranger is definitely neat. Multiple :tu:
Just got me one Swiss Army 70 sans croix as well and I like it (removed the bail first thing though).
Nice one and congratulations also for the "Professional" series!
Is there a source in Europe for the "sans croix" variant?I don't have the AP blaze, but if they are made like the Hardwoods serie (camo), the finish is just printed, so it will wear off with use.
Seeing the brilliant blaze orange camo model made me wonder, is that an applied finish that might wear off like on the Vics, or is it molded in?
Looks like you hit the jackpot big time. That old Ranger is definitely neat. Multiple :tu:
Thanks :salute:
I likes them wood handled Rangers. Some year maybe... way over budget at present.
Looks like you hit the jackpot big time. That old Ranger is definitely neat. Multiple :tu:
Thanks :salute:
same from me Marius, that Ranger is amazing looking!
I likes them wood handled Rangers. Some year maybe... way over budget at present.
The wood is walnut, same as the rest of EvoWoods. I think that this is the only Ranger model done in EvoWood, called "RangerWood 55", basically a Ranger 55 in thick and solid walnut scales. Unfortunately yes, same as most smaller EvoWoods, they tend more expensive compared with the plastic handled variants.
A few more pics of this one:
:cheers:
you are welcome :tu:Looks like you hit the jackpot big time. That old Ranger is definitely neat. Multiple :tu:
Thanks :salute:
same from me Marius, that Ranger is amazing looking!
Thanks! It's a superb SAK, very functional too, not just good looking. I like it a lot.
Peeked over at Wenger's site (http://www.wengerna.com/rangerwood-55-16379) and ironically they actually have an awl with a sewing eye on that model. The knives, if am not mistaken, do not have the sewing eye. Wonder how this one got it and the knives didn't? :think:
i did mention i have an interest for ergonomics, just a few weeks ago i got a Swibo 2 21 16. It must the best developed handle i have seen so far. The safety ergonomics and comfort in the hand is the best. The blade is straight from the handle aswell and the sharpness is outstanding.
i did mention i have an interest for ergonomics, just a few weeks ago i got a Swibo 2 21 16. It must the best developed handle i have seen so far. The safety ergonomics and comfort in the hand is the best. The blade is straight from the handle aswell and the sharpness is outstanding.
Very interesting :cheers:
I likes them wood handled Rangers. Some year maybe... way over budget at present.
The wood is walnut, same as the rest of EvoWoods. I think that this is the only Ranger model done in EvoWood, called "RangerWood 55", basically a Ranger 55 in thick and solid walnut scales. Unfortunately yes, same as most smaller EvoWoods, they tend more expensive compared with the plastic handled variants.
A few more pics of this one:
:cheers:
Never really cared for that style of knife till I saw it in the walnut wood scales. That is one sexy knife! :drool:
(http://forum.multitool.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=32456.0;attach=46191;image)
Peeked over at Wenger's site (http://www.wengerna.com/rangerwood-55-16379) and ironically they actually have an awl with a sewing eye on that model. The knives, if am not mistaken, do not have the sewing eye. Wonder how this one got it and the knives didn't? :think:
The AP blaze feels very good in hand, great feel. The finish seems to be some thick hard plastic paint, matte. No idea how it is applied. Cannot see any spot where is missing, inside of the scales for example. Very well done. Time will tell how it will wear.
:cheers:
ps people!
i have still not been able to confirm the patent for pressfit scales, i know it was mentioned by Wenger they allowed Vic to use their patent for hidden rivets. Was it the type today with the pressfit over the rivet/bushings? Or just the fact it is "hidden" ?
I can see Wenger have used different methods for attaching the scales over the years that is hidden,? anybody
thanks
yes it does have locking fl.screwdriver. I believe these are mid 90s knives, also the scales are attached like today. Pressed over the rivits/bushings, probarby so since i can not see any other way?
Wenger have used this from time to time since its their invention..
thanks
yes it does have locking fl.screwdriver. I believe these are mid 90s knives, also the scales are attached like today. Pressed over the rivits/bushings, probarby so since i can not see any other way?
Wenger have used this from time to time since its their invention..
The reason I ask is cause I have the same model without the scouts logo with a locking blade but without the locking fl. screwdriver.
thanks
yes it does have locking fl.screwdriver. I believe these are mid 90s knives, also the scales are attached like today. Pressed over the rivits/bushings, probarby so since i can not see any other way?
Wenger have used this from time to time since its their invention..
The reason I ask is cause I have the same model without the scouts logo with a locking blade but without the locking fl. screwdriver.
The AP blaze feels very good in hand, great feel. The finish seems to be some thick hard plastic paint, matte. No idea how it is applied. Cannot see any spot where is missing, inside of the scales for example. Very well done. Time will tell how it will wear.
:cheers:
Unfortunately I did not have the same good experience with the camo paint from a Ranger 57.
Please excuse the very bad quality of the pictures, but I took them with my mobile phone to show the problem to Amazon (where I bought it).
In my model the camo paint was missing inside one of the scales.
I returned the knife and received another one...... which has exactly the same problem :-[
Oops.
Can you tell what color were the uncovered scale parts? Gray, or the base color on the camouflage pattern? Glossy or matte (same texture as the painted surfaces)?
Never had one of these camo Wengers myself (and to get a taste of the blaze I decided to get just this small one). It could also happen that the large 130 mm and the small 85 mm scales are finished in a different manner, given that first are hollow and the later solid (true, false? - never removed one but anyway they don't feel hollow).
:cheers:
The AP blaze feels very good in hand, great feel. The finish seems to be some thick hard plastic paint, matte. No idea how it is applied. Cannot see any spot where is missing, inside of the scales for example. Very well done. Time will tell how it will wear.
:cheers:
Unfortunately I did not have the same good experience with the camo paint from a Ranger 57.
Please excuse the very bad quality of the pictures, but I took them with my mobile phone to show the problem to Amazon (where I bought it).
In my model the camo paint was missing inside one of the scales.
I returned the knife and received another one...... which has exactly the same problem :-[
Oops.
Can you tell what color were the uncovered scale parts? Gray, or the base color on the camouflage pattern? Glossy or matte (same texture as the painted surfaces)?
Never had one of these camo Wengers myself (and to get a taste of the blaze I decided to get just this small one). It could also happen that the large 130 mm and the small 85 mm scales are finished in a different manner, given that first are hollow and the later solid (true, false? - never removed one but anyway they don't feel hollow).
:cheers:
i noticed on my Ap Blaze 10 on the inside - see picture
It is coarse on the surface inside this area, and the camo is very thin or almost not there. Also on the edge of the scale it is so. Not sure if is applied in the same way the two camo patterns.
I checked up on another AP Blaze 10 and it is almost perfect. I have the one on picture as EDC in my pocket to see the wear resistance, so far so good. back to your question it may be variations from batch to batch i am not sure??
Does anyone know how the walnut wood scales are attached to the EvoWood & RangerWood knives?
Or pictures of what the scales & liners looked like when taken apart? Merely curious, and don't want anyone taking theirs apart. The S557 looks like it was inset into the wood by half a liner's thickness. Am guessing the walnut wood scales were epoxied near full surface to surface.
Does anyone know how the walnut wood scales are attached to the EvoWood & RangerWood knives?
Or pictures of what the scales & liners looked like when taken apart? Merely curious, and don't want anyone taking theirs apart. The S557 looks like it was inset into the wood by half a liner's thickness. Am guessing the walnut wood scales were epoxied near full surface to surface.
good question, i also wonder alittle on this. It was mentioned by SwissBianco some time ago on the EvoWood - scales are attached by a double sided 3m tape. This to avoid the problem with glue and so on.
Must be a really strong tape if so :tu:
That's interesting, I don't think I had heard that these were using, or possibly using, 3M tape. I do really like Evowood although I'm not a fan of the other 85mm evo scales, and so so on it for the 130mm line as they make the knives so big... but they are big knives and they do allow for a good grip and the larger knives. I Really like the pushbutton lock release.Does anyone know how the walnut wood scales are attached to the EvoWood & RangerWood knives?
Or pictures of what the scales & liners looked like when taken apart? Merely curious, and don't want anyone taking theirs apart. The S557 looks like it was inset into the wood by half a liner's thickness. Am guessing the walnut wood scales were epoxied near full surface to surface.
good question, i also wonder alittle on this. It was mentioned by SwissBianco some time ago on the EvoWood - scales are attached by a double sided 3m tape. This to avoid the problem with glue and so on.
Must be a really strong tape if so :tu:
If it's the 3M VHB tape, then yes, very strong tape.
Wonder if it is worth trying to get a Wenger Ranger? Are they overly big? Anyone have a photo of one in their had so as to get a visual? Are they about the size of a Leatherman Wave?
Don't think will go for the walnut handles though, since they are not riveted on or held in a secure fashion. Wouldn't want the tape to come apart if I put it in the car's cubby.
Then to decide if worth getting a new one, or a user from eBay or something.
I just got back from the post office and in the mail was an older 1979 Wenger Catalog from US distributor. Mostly pictures and/or names, but on the sportsman series with all the different imprints, like we were discussing a few pages back, I see a Sailfish and Eagle, which don't show up often, and of course the Mustang.
Interesting it lists the main name for the 'Pointer' correctly as the Setter, with 'Pointer' as an alternate. of particular note is that it states that it is the worlds largest SAK. I guess I need one of those in my collection one day.
The catalog also seems to confirm what we had already determined; it states that Wenger 'were the first Swiss Army Knives with a lifetime warranty'.
Well I won't spoil all the fun, but it's a catalog from a distributor so it only has a few pages for Wenger, but it helps date a couple knives.
Sidenote: The catalog is shows quite a few different series made by Aitor which are very close copies of some of the swiss knives, they are much closer that those that they offer today.
Wonder if it is worth trying to get a Wenger Ranger? Are they overly big? Anyone have a photo of one in their had so as to get a visual? Are they about the size of a Leatherman Wave?
Don't think will go for the walnut handles though, since they are not riveted on or held in a secure fashion. Wouldn't want the tape to come apart if I put it in the car's cubby.
Then to decide if worth getting a new one, or a user from eBay or something.
here is the RangerGrip model Handyman 90.822 - this is on the to thick side, or the handle to is to bulky, still you get large functions that is very handy. The hex/bit opening is what makes it much extra , besides the medium use plier one get a multitude of use. I took some pictures, some of the tools/bits on the table is to much for normal use. Just examples on how one can do in an emergency. Or just if one what to custom build a pack with bits. I did not picture the two bits that follow the tool in the sheath.
I just got back from the post office and in the mail was an older 1979 Wenger Catalog from US distributor. Mostly pictures and/or names, but on the sportsman series with all the different imprints, like we were discussing a few pages back, I see a Sailfish and Eagle, which don't show up often, and of course the Mustang.
Interesting it lists the main name for the 'Pointer' correctly as the Setter, with 'Pointer' as an alternate. of particular note is that it states that it is the worlds largest SAK. I guess I need one of those in my collection one day.
The catalog also seems to confirm what we had already determined; it states that Wenger 'were the first Swiss Army Knives with a lifetime warranty'.
Well I won't spoil all the fun, but it's a catalog from a distributor so it only has a few pages for Wenger, but it helps date a couple knives.
Sidenote: The catalog is shows quite a few different series made by Aitor which are very close copies of some of the swiss knives, they are much closer that those that they offer today.
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this is good news!
could you take some fast pics of this catalogue(Wenger) and post?
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this is good news!
could you take some fast pics of this catalogue(Wenger) and post?
Well I'm so far behind on SAK pictures I try not to waste my time with quick pics.... because I might as well be spending the time doing not so quick pics or eating ice cream.
The good news is I scanned the 7 pages processed them and sized them for the Wiki... go take a look some interesting stuff in these small number of pages.
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Not shown on the Wiki but the next 2 pages of the catalog showed a number of Swiss Fillet/Fishing knives. They use the name Swissflex to describe the flexible blades (available with different flexibility), but the handles are molded colored similair to current Swibo knives.
Does anyone know more about Wenger's collaboration with Frost Cutlery? A few of these showed up on ebay recently, I only grabbed the Traveler model. I'm not sure if I'll carefully slice the package open, but I was surprised to see these manufactored for Frost Cutlery.
Does anyone know more about Wenger's collaboration with Frost Cutlery? A few of these showed up on ebay recently, I only grabbed the Traveler model. I'm not sure if I'll carefully slice the package open, but I was surprised to see these manufactored for Frost Cutlery.
Right; I'm thinking they were probably completely made in Switzerland and just sold by Frost, not too different than the Buck deal. I am interested if it would have any Frost stamp or engraving on it, but have not wanted to open the package just yet.Does anyone know more about Wenger's collaboration with Frost Cutlery? A few of these showed up on ebay recently, I only grabbed the Traveler model. I'm not sure if I'll carefully slice the package open, but I was surprised to see these manufactored for Frost Cutlery.
I would suspect that they were either only assembled by Frost or just sold by them.
I do not see the point of them actually making them.
Right?
Btw, does anyone know when the Wenger scissors patent ran out? Was it possibly '96?
I took a picture of the old style and the more new style compass. Sadly the old is broken, still i like it alot for history.
(http://forum.multitool.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=32456.0;attach=46589;image)
I took a picture of the old style and the more new style compass. Sadly the old is broken, still i like it alot for history.
(http://forum.multitool.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=32456.0;attach=46589;image)
I basically saw four different compass variations:
1) very old style, with metal border;
2) old style (as seen in the 1995 European catalog);
3) old style similar to the one above but with a orange plastic "ring" on the border;
4) newer style (like pictured above on the right).
A local shop here has still few of them, which were sold as replacement.
Is your compass broken? Or it is just not attached to the ruler?
If it was the compass, I think I should be able to find you a replacement.
Edit: found a picture of the above 1) compass from Stressmaster (scroll down to almost the end of the page)
https://plus.google.com/photos/113972130751178685410/albums/5184824931801034977#photos/113972130751178685410/albums/5184824931801034977/5628595530229768242
hi
thanks for info, the right model on my picture is the older of the two. Atleast i think so - no wheel turning.
I can see it got liquid in it. It has kind of jumped out of the place.
The knife is one i really like :) Never been used, maybe i have showed it before. I estimate it to be a knife 1985-1990 - not 100% sure. The compass seems original.
Recently found few interesting Wenger's.
The first one is not a mod!
His official name is EvoHunter 505 (catalog 1 505 59 300) and was made for (and only sold in) the Czech Republic.
Interesting is, as you see, the small gutting blade, similar (or is the same?) to the one found in the Victorinox Hunter.
I don't remember Wenger using this tool in any other knife.
You can also see that inside the liners was put a metal circular "part" (sorry I'm not able to describe it in english) for the gutting blade to rest.
about the compass liquid: - yes i know it is supposed to be there :) not sure it is well to drink, still i have heard about compasses suddenly being out of liquids :think:
Btw, does anyone know when the Wenger scissors patent ran out? Was it possibly '96?Their patent is dated 1975 and a European patent is good for 20 years so I figure it expired in 1994.
Btw, does anyone know when the Wenger scissors patent ran out? Was it possibly '96?Their patent is dated 1975 and a European patent is good for 20 years so I figure it expired in 1994.
Wenger used this design beginning 1973 - companies often get the product on the market before the patent process is complete. When the 17 years of a US patent expired the scissors said EP Patent (European Patent) for a while. This also appeared on Wenger's self-locking screwdrivers.
Young's SAK Owner's Manual has a good chronology for both Victorinox and Wenger tool development.
EvoHunter 505 (catalog 1 505 59 300) and was made for (and only sold in) the Czech Republic.Small edit: while I'm pretty much sure about the Czech R. market, I can't confirm it at 100%.
Very nice comparison shots North Man!!!!!
You were right and I apologize for my error about the compass.
I just checked myself with an old Matterhorn plus I have (which has, apart from some unusual blue scales, the main blade without the logo, fishscaler without the seying eye etc...) and it has indeed the black compass.
So that one was older.
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I'm attaching few shots that I didn't have time to upload yesterday.
They are from model 1 23 13 that was mentioned in the "Major/Oberst" topic
Basically it has the same configuration as model 1 23 03 (listed as "Major" in the wiki) but with the small blade instead of nail file
http://www.sakwiki.com/tiki-browse_image.php?galleryId=97&sort_mode=imageId_asc&imageId=2373&scalesize=0
(http://forum.multitool.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=32456.0;attach=46714;image)
I just got back from the post office and in the mail was an older 1979 Wenger Catalog from US distributor. Mostly pictures and/or names, but on the sportsman series with all the different imprints, like we were discussing a few pages back, I see a Sailfish and Eagle, which don't show up often, and of course the Mustang.
Interesting it lists the main name for the 'Pointer' correctly as the Setter, with 'Pointer' as an alternate. of particular note is that it states that it is the worlds largest SAK. I guess I need one of those in my collection one day.
The catalog also seems to confirm what we had already determined; it states that Wenger 'were the first Swiss Army Knives with a lifetime warranty'.
Well I won't spoil all the fun, but it's a catalog from a distributor so it only has a few pages for Wenger, but it helps date a couple knives.
Sidenote: The catalog is shows quite a few different series made by Aitor which are very close copies of some of the swiss knives, they are much closer that those that they offer today.
World Scouting went to that ugly purple color a few years back for various PC reasons.
World Scouting went to that ugly purple color a few years back for various PC reasons.
PC reasons? Can you elaborate for us non connoisseurs a bit?
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/2/20/World_Scout_Emblem_inverse.svg/200px-World_Scout_Emblem_inverse.svg.png)
Interesting about purple being perceived as ugly (personal taste, the color of this SAK does not appear ugly to me).
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Purple
"In the ancient world, purple was the color worn by Roman Emperors and magistrates, and later by Roman Catholic bishops. Since that time, purple has been commonly associated with royalty and piety."
I happen to like purple...
I happen to like purple...
Me too, combined with Toxic Green :D
I happen to like purple...
Me too, combined with Toxic Green :D
Back in the 1970s there was a pop pyschology test called the Luscher Color Test, that was supposed to provide a quick assessment of peoples' personalities. My two favorite colors were blue and white; the two I hated most were green and purple. :D
:cheers:
I happen to like purple...
Me too, combined with Toxic Green :D
Back in the 1970s there was a pop pyschology test called the Luscher Color Test, that was supposed to provide a quick assessment of peoples' personalities. My two favorite colors were blue and white; the two I hated most were green and purple. :D
:cheers:
Wenger ti 2 (http://i1211.photobucket.com/albums/cc421/JAfromMn/temporary_zps14e8d858.jpg)
victorinox would never build a knife this ugly or this cool.
here is some interesting Wenger fish related knives, with the embossed icons i believe.
Boys life 1977 April :
http://books.google.no/books?id=x-VsTf_TlWQC&pg=PA87&dq=wenger+precise+scouts&hl=no&sa=X&ei=MuJJUZmBEMSPO4aUgdgC&ved=0CD4Q6AEwAQ#v=onepage&q=wenger%20&f=false
That is one of the online articles I found that had those dates I mentioned on this (http://forum.multitool.org/index.php/topic,14099.0.html) thread about Wengers back in 2009.
here is some interesting Wenger fish related knives, with the embossed icons i believe.
Boys life 1977 April :
http://books.google.no/books?id=x-VsTf_TlWQC&pg=PA87&dq=wenger+precise+scouts&hl=no&sa=X&ei=MuJJUZmBEMSPO4aUgdgC&ved=0CD4Q6AEwAQ#v=onepage&q=wenger%20&f=false
Nice find!
Have you seen this article?
http://books.google.it/books?id=QOQDAAAAMBAJ&lpg=PA209&dq=wenger%20precise&hl=it&pg=PA104#v=onepage&q=wenger%20precise&f=false
It seems to confirm that the orienting tool was introduced on 1986.
Oh, and the Dynasty on the cover is a King Arthur ;)
here is some interesting Wenger fish related knives, with the embossed icons i believe.
Boys life 1977 April :
http://books.google.no/books?id=x-VsTf_TlWQC&pg=PA87&dq=wenger+precise+scouts&hl=no&sa=X&ei=MuJJUZmBEMSPO4aUgdgC&ved=0CD4Q6AEwAQ#v=onepage&q=wenger%20&f=false
Nice find!
Have you seen this article?
http://books.google.it/books?id=QOQDAAAAMBAJ&lpg=PA209&dq=wenger%20precise&hl=it&pg=PA104#v=onepage&q=wenger%20precise&f=false
It seems to confirm that the orienting tool was introduced on 1986.
Oh, and the Dynasty on the cover is a King Arthur ;)
Has anyone figured out how to print out that article? I'm once again defeated by modern technology. :ahhhYou're interested in the 4 pages from PM 1986, The Cutting Edge? if so I can send them to you as good images. you'll have to handle the printing.
Has anyone figured out how to print out that article? I'm once again defeated by modern technology. :ahhhYou're interested in the 4 pages from PM 1986, The Cutting Edge? if so I can send them to you as good images. you'll have to handle the printing.
Sent :cheers:Has anyone figured out how to print out that article? I'm once again defeated by modern technology. :ahhhYou're interested in the 4 pages from PM 1986, The Cutting Edge? if so I can send them to you as good images. you'll have to handle the printing.
Thanks, appreciate it.
Sent :cheers:Has anyone figured out how to print out that article? I'm once again defeated by modern technology. :ahhhYou're interested in the 4 pages from PM 1986, The Cutting Edge? if so I can send them to you as good images. you'll have to handle the printing.
Thanks, appreciate it.
for the advert?
PS have i posted this link before?
http://books.google.no/books?id=i-_nR43-FIUC&pg=RA1-PA133&dq=wenger+steel+knife&hl=no&sa=X&ei=UTZLUai2IMXesgbBxICgAw&redir_esc=y#v=onepage&q=wenger%20steel%20knife&f=false
Has anyone heard any more about the Wenger RealTree 'Snow' knives? They're supposed to be out now. Hope they didn't get canceled in Wenger's subsumption into Victorinox.
http://www.wengerna.com/realtree-ap-snow-50-16850
for the advert?
PS have i posted this link before?
http://books.google.no/books?id=i-_nR43-FIUC&pg=RA1-PA133&dq=wenger+steel+knife&hl=no&sa=X&ei=UTZLUai2IMXesgbBxICgAw&redir_esc=y#v=onepage&q=wenger%20steel%20knife&f=false
here it is mentioned in 1979 - how the Backpacker knives developed for the Americans
http://books.google.no/books?id=buADAAAAMBAJ&pg=PA2&dq=wenger+backpacker+developed&hl=no&sa=X&ei=jR9MUca_CemE4ATag4HoBQ&redir_esc=y#v=onepage&q=backpacker&f=false
I however careful with making this a 100% info, that these knives was just developed for this.
PS. It seems the 70s is at a time where Wenger is going more heavy into the American marked.
here it is mentioned in 1979 - how the Backpacker knives developed for the Americans
http://books.google.no/books?id=buADAAAAMBAJ&pg=PA2&dq=wenger+backpacker+developed&hl=no&sa=X&ei=jR9MUca_CemE4ATag4HoBQ&redir_esc=y#v=onepage&q=backpacker&f=false
I however careful with making this a 100% info, that these knives was just developed for this.
PS. It seems the 70s is at a time where Wenger is going more heavy into the American marked.
Interesting. Wonder why I has never seen a SAK in my 70's, or even 80's. Seen a Leatherman in a Marlboro catalog that my parents had gotten. Later found a palm-pinching Gerber. Don't recall what era I ever saw a SAK... :think:
Same ugly awl too. Don't know how anyone could use that type of awl stand-alone. Say, where does one find them short-tailed chain rings? Only seen photos of them on various SAK.
Say, where does one find them short-tailed chain rings? Only seen photos of them on various SAK.
Just stop me if i am raving on :)
Also some info here i have been into:
in 2003 Victorinox takes over Wenger NA, also the the Swiss Army Fragrances,
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Any one know of a name or model number for a Nomad configuration with a Nail-File rather than the Small blade? I searched and saw some time back someone asked about this configuration, but their knife didn't have a locking blade as the Nomad.
Any one know of a name or model number for a Nomad configuration with a Nail-File rather than the Small blade? I searched and saw some time back someone asked about this configuration, but their knife didn't have a locking blade as the Nomad.
I think it was me asking about that combination but I haven't seen another one like it since. Have you found one? Any pictures?
L.L. Bean had a locking Nomad with nail file. The picture I have shows their name on the handle, but no info on model name or number.
L.L. Bean had a locking Nomad with nail file. The picture I have shows their name on the handle, but no info on model name or number.
Yes, have the same knife myself (unfortunately it is not a mint model)
Moving some knives around the house and took some pictures.
Here is my set of the Snowboard themed Wenger.
On the left, top to bottom, Shredder/Swissrider black and Shredder Yellow (unknown catalog number).
On the right, top to bottom, 1 40 03 02 (unknown US catalog number, if it was ever imported) and "Snowboard".
I'm not aware of any others models, but I'm not sure.
The yellow Shredder was apparently done for some mail-order gift company (don't remember who). Their number for it is 123295.
The top right one was sold in the US as 'Snowboarder' (# 16954) and in Europe as 'SwissRider'.
The small red 'Snowboard' was also sold as 'Snowboarder', though that may be a dealer's name. (# 17929)
Nice set!
Maybe the yellow ones are more common in Europe, but they are rare here in the US. Outside of the one I got from the mail-order company, I only recall a few showing up on ebay. Jazzbass may have more data.
Maybe the yellow ones are more common in Europe, but they are rare here in the US. Outside of the one I got from the mail-order company, I only recall a few showing up on ebay. Jazzbass may have more data.
Karl,
I personally never saw the yellow shredder for sale here (which doesn't mean anything).
In fact I bought mine from ebay USA some time ago, thinking it was an US only version.
On the other hand, I don't recall ever seeing the model with the keychain for sale.
And an older Ranger from our friend Per in Denmark (sorry, Karl, no purple but there is still some green in here :D)
Ruthenium:
All Porsche Design Knives feature handles made of Ruthenium, an extremely strong, durable and highly rust-resistant metal in the Platinum group of elements. Ruthenium, a hard silvery-white metal provides outstanding corrosion resistance because it does not tarnish at room temperature, nor is it attacked by hot or cold acids. Ruthenium's excellent resistance is the reason for its major use as a hardener in conjunction with various other metals. Alloys of ruthenium and platinum or palladium are used for wear-resistant electrical contacts.
And an older Ranger from our friend Per in Denmark (sorry, Karl, no purple but there is still some green in here :D)
the Ruthenium fiasco on the Porsche knives
The AP blaze feels very good in hand, great feel. The finish seems to be some thick hard plastic paint, matte. No idea how it is applied. Cannot see any spot where is missing, inside of the scales for example. Very well done. Time will tell how it will wear.
:cheers:
Unfortunately I did not have the same good experience with the camo paint from a Ranger 57.
Please excuse the very bad quality of the pictures, but I took them with my mobile phone to show the problem to Amazon (where I bought it).
In my model the camo paint was missing inside one of the scales.
I returned the knife and received another one...... which has exactly the same problem :-[
Any idea of what it is?
I don't have big knowledge on the 65mm models, but it seems almost an hybrid between a Macao and a Lithos.
Right now I'm calling this a Mac-ithos :D
Any idea of what it is?
I don't have big knowledge on the 65mm models, but it seems almost an hybrid between a Macao and a Lithos.
Right now I'm calling this a Mac-ithos :D
Hi, this is my first post - nice to be here :tu:
I like the blue macao/lithos-mix - i have something like this too ...
I second North Man,
welcome marktwichtel and congratulations for your Wenger's!
I was hoping to see more pictures of the Wenger Standard Issue in this thread...
I thought it was just the change in the design of the blades... but maybe a change in the steel also? :think:And an older Ranger from our friend Per in Denmark (sorry, Karl, no purple but there is still some green in here :D)
Very nice
I have noticed a detail, not sure others have any info on this?
The steel used on old Ranger and new, the new is more easy to sharpen and seems to get a even sharper edge. It bites better in woods aswell, it may be a difference in them.
Does any one know anything about this piece of Wenger History? This Hunting knife appears to be quite old as it's using Aluminum handle with riveted Fiber grips like the older soldiers. First I've seen like this.
(http://forum.multitool.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=32456.0;attach=47745;image)
Nice! very similar, and amazing the sheath is almost the same as well, except yours has the nice Swiss Shield stamp as well.
On mine I presume "O.Dobler" was the owner of a shop in Appenzell Switzerland. The blade on mine I'm sure is Stainless steel also.
Figure while I had the knife out I'd take a couple of photos.So let's just see if everyone agrees; this large knife with the image of the Setter (US model 16958), but often called a Pointer, has the same tool configuration as the Wenger Champ (http://www.sakwiki.com/tiki-index.php?page=Wenger+Champ), and based on the description in the '79 catalog it would be because they claim it's the largest Swiss Army Knife. Karl's picture shows the same tool configuration also.
(http://forum.multitool.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=32456.0;attach=45694;image)
Interesting
The Wenger Champ with a nail-file would be the original Matterhorn.
In the 1977 "boy's toys" advert the Setter has the nail file.
In the 1981 "Talking Swiss Army Knife" advert it has a small Clip Point and the number 16995.
Maybe it 'evolved'?
My copy with the Setter imprint has the nail file.
Does any one have the Setter imprint and the Small Blade?
Just to clarify; When I asked about 'versions' of the pointer I meant different tool configurations, rather than evolutionary variations.
PS in March 1979 (Popular science)there is just in writing that the "Setter" is the worlds largest SAK and part of the new Sportsman seriesIt seems we can correct one thing; it's the Setter, and forget from this point onward that some people started calling it a Pointer. Maybe someone wished it was a Pointer, but no it was a Setter. Maybe they didn't want Victorinox to use the name "Pointer" :D arguably the "better" bird dog.
Nice! very similar, and amazing the sheath is almost the same as well, except yours has the nice Swiss Shield stamp as well.A similar hunting knife by Wenger, with stag grips, is shown in The Swiss Army Knife Owner's Manual, with bayonets, and Swiss army blanket as background:
On mine I presume "O.Dobler" was the owner of a shop in Appenzell Switzerland. The blade on mine I'm sure is Stainless steel also.
Looks like it has the same sheath with the Swiss Shield as Karl's example.Nice! very similar, and amazing the sheath is almost the same as well, except yours has the nice Swiss Shield stamp as well.A similar hunting knife by Wenger, with stag grips, is shown in The Swiss Army Knife Owner's Manual:
On mine I presume "O.Dobler" was the owner of a shop in Appenzell Switzerland. The blade on mine I'm sure is Stainless steel also.
PS in March 1979 (Popular science)there is just in writing that the "Setter" is the worlds largest SAK and part of the new Sportsman seriesIt seems we can correct one thing; it's the Setter, and forget from this point onward that some people started calling it a Pointer. Maybe someone wished it was a Pointer, but no it was a Setter. Maybe they didn't want Victorinox to use the name "Pointer" :D arguably the "better" bird dog.
Error: "The Wenger Champ with a nail-file would be the original Matterhorn."Interesting
The Wenger Champ with a nail-file would be the original Matterhorn.
In the 1977 "boy's toys" advert the Setter has the nail file.
In the 1981 "Talking Swiss Army Knife" advert it has a small Clip Point and the number 16995.
Maybe it 'evolved'?
My copy with the Setter imprint has the nail file.
Does any one have the Setter imprint and the Small Blade?
Just to clarify; When I asked about 'versions' of the pointer I meant different tool configurations, rather than evolutionary variations.
I agree very interesting!
Nice! very similar, and amazing the sheath is almost the same as well, except yours has the nice Swiss Shield stamp as well.A similar hunting knife by Wenger, with stag grips, is shown in The Swiss Army Knife Owner's Manual, with bayonets, and Swiss army blanket as background:
On mine I presume "O.Dobler" was the owner of a shop in Appenzell Switzerland. The blade on mine I'm sure is Stainless steel also.
PS in March 1979 (Popular science)there is just in writing that the "Setter" is the worlds largest SAK and part of the new Sportsman seriesIt seems we can correct one thing; it's the Setter, and forget from this point onward that some people started calling it a Pointer. Maybe someone wished it was a Pointer, but no it was a Setter. Maybe they didn't want Victorinox to use the name "Pointer" :D arguably the "better" bird dog.
Nice! very similar, and amazing the sheath is almost the same as well, except yours has the nice Swiss Shield stamp as well.A similar hunting knife by Wenger, with stag grips, is shown in The Swiss Army Knife Owner's Manual, with bayonets, and Swiss army blanket as background:
On mine I presume "O.Dobler" was the owner of a shop in Appenzell Switzerland. The blade on mine I'm sure is Stainless steel also.
this large knife with the image of the Setter (US model 16958), but often called a Pointer, has the same tool configuration as the Wenger Champ (http://www.sakwiki.com/tiki-index.php?page=Wenger+Champ), and based on the description in the '79 catalog it would be because they claim it's the largest Swiss Army Knife. Karl's picture shows the same tool configuration also.
So I think it is safe to say that when the American marketing of the Wenger knives began they just renamed this knife to fit their new series they created for marketing purposes?
Absolutely; of course we would still mention the use of the name 'Pointer' in connection with this knife.PS in March 1979 (Popular science)there is just in writing that the "Setter" is the worlds largest SAK and part of the new Sportsman seriesIt seems we can correct one thing; it's the Setter, and forget from this point onward that some people started calling it a Pointer. Maybe someone wished it was a Pointer, but no it was a Setter. Maybe they didn't want Victorinox to use the name "Pointer" :D arguably the "better" bird dog.
I think it was called 'Pointer' longer than it was called 'Setter', though that appears to be the original name. Maybe in the list of models you need to include Pointer with a 'see Setter' note.
Humm, as far as I remember the "Champ" was never equipped with a locking main blade (as the "Pointer/Setter"), so i don't think the "Setter/Pointer" was just a different name used for the "Champ" sold in the US market.
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This from the SAK Owner's Manual: "In a brochure from the 1960s Wenger says that theirs was the first company to make a plastic handle on a folding knife - a claim also made by the American cutlery company PAL."
The book also has a brief history of plastics - including the odd fact that in the days of nitro-cellulose knife handles (early 1900s) the Camillus cutlery factory in New York had a hinged roof so the roof could blow off and not destroy the building in the event of an explosion of this very volatile plastic. Both Wenger and Victorinox switched from the somewhat safer cellulose acetate of the 1930s to cellulose acetate butyrate - later called Cellidor.
this large knife with the image of the Setter (US model 16958), but often called a Pointer, has the same tool configuration as the Wenger Champ (http://www.sakwiki.com/tiki-index.php?page=Wenger+Champ), and based on the description in the '79 catalog it would be because they claim it's the largest Swiss Army Knife. Karl's picture shows the same tool configuration also.
So I think it is safe to say that when the American marketing of the Wenger knives began they just renamed this knife to fit their new series they created for marketing purposes?
Humm, as far as I remember the "Champ" was never equipped with a locking main blade (as the "Pointer/Setter"), so i don't think the "Setter/Pointer" was just a different name used for the "Champ" sold in the US market.
It is interesting to note that the 1979 catalog posted is using the same claim "World's largest Swiss Army Knife" also for the Matterhorn :D
http://www.sakwiki.com/tiki-browse_image.php?galleryId=99&sort_mode=imageId_asc&imageId=2665&scalesize=o
Messing around with some new scales I just got.
(http://forum.multitool.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=32456.0;attach=47837;image)
"I to had information that Wenger did use plastics very early but i can not confirm, and about the Eastman. This is just some information that i found researching, i do not know the full info since is just a small remark in Google books. If Eastman is the supplier or other at this time of history, not sure."
North Man - more from the SAK Owner's Manual - "A new type of celluloid, cellulose acetate, was introduced by Camille and Henri Dreyfus of Basel, Switzerland in 1904, and proved be more stable than cellulose nitrate. In 1929 the Tennessee Eastman Corporation added propionate and called it Tenite. In 1938 they made cellulose acetate with butyrate to make Tenite II. In 1952 the plastic called Cellite made from surplus stocks of WWII plastic aircraft windows was renamed Cellidor; chemically this was also cellulose acetate butyrate (CAB). Cellidor has proved to both stable and very tough (see Test results)."
This from the SAK Owner's Manual: "In a brochure from the 1960s Wenger says that theirs was the first company to make a plastic handle on a folding knife - a claim also made by the American cutlery company PAL."
The book also has a brief history of plastics - including the odd fact that in the days of nitro-cellulose knife handles (early 1900s) the Camillus cutlery factory in New York had a hinged roof so the roof could blow off and not destroy the building in the event of an explosion of this very volatile plastic. Both Wenger and Victorinox switched from the somewhat safer cellulose acetate of the 1930s to cellulose acetate butyrate - later called Cellidor.
thank you, yes this is interesting.
Victorinox history i got also mention 1930s. I did do some research aswell that the formula got changed over the years. The last years information from Victorinox mention organic cellulose acetat,
from the manual: Cellidor is a trade name for organic cellulose ester, which is a modified natural product.
Also from the manual (evolution on the 91mm) -1937 Handles made from cellidor replace fiber
handles.
I to had information that Wenger did use plastics very early but i can not confirm, and about the Eastman. This is just some information that i found researching, i do not know the full info since is just a small remark in Google books. If Eastman is the supplier or other at this time of history, not sure.
Hello everybody!
I am French, collector of Swiss knives and administrator of ' www.couteaux-du-soldat-suisse.ch (http://www.couteaux-du-soldat-suisse.ch) '. I invite you to show it (french version), you will find lot of informations about Soldier knives between 1890 to 2012 (Wenger, Victorinox and other marks).
By reading your different posts, I see that some body have catalogs, newspapers or about Wenger knives. Could you please scan these documents, especially those prior to 1991? You can contact me by 'PM' to have my e-mail address. Thanks !
Jean-Claude
...Yes, hopefully we'll find this information soon.
We really need to find out whats been going on between 1975-1979.
...
Looks interesting. Awaiting its posting on the wiki. :tu:That's all there is; the other side of this is a reminder to fill out the warranty information "neatly", the form itself, and notes to oil and clean your knife. Not too exciting, I thought I had posted this earlier, but it must have got bumped off the scanner for something more exciting at the time. Since there was talk of the scales composition earlier I thought I'd post this, the choice of the knife they display says something I think.
Thought that was going to detain all 26 models and versions. :-[Ya I wish... it will happen one day... someone out there has the info...
There's a series of Classics with presidential signatures on them - Johnson, Reagan, Bush, Clinton.Something else... but just so you don't get too excited it's more of a name-game than anything new so it might take me a while to find time for it. Maybe after I watch the movie Lincoln I'll be inspired, he's a top dog in the this series as well.
The Wenger two-blade Crusader/Executive without a keyring was sold as the President. There was also a money clip version.
If its something else I don't have any info.
Excerpt from 1972 Information Sheet included with knives at the time.
(http://www.sakwiki.com/show_image.php?id=2714)
Excerpt from 1972 Information Sheet included with knives at the time.
Here is an interesting Max Oertli patent application, filed 1962 http://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/originalDocument?CC=CH&NR=377213A&KC=A&FT=D&ND=3&date=19640430&DB=EPODOC&locale=en_EP
Too much talking ... not enough piccies :pok: :pok:
:P :D :D
Here's some piccies of the Traveller variants that I've been meaning to take for a while :tu:
(http://i748.photobucket.com/albums/xx122/50ft-trad/IMG_5466_zps0e4a4d50.jpg)
Top Row L-R:
(Victorinox) Climber Small
Alinghi Souvenir
Soft Touch 14
Classic Traveller
Part-Serrated Traveller (No T&T)
Btm Row L-R
Wood 03
Evowood 14
SwissBuck Sidekick
Metal 50
Brushed Stainless Traveller
(http://i748.photobucket.com/albums/xx122/50ft-trad/IMG_5468_zps582a8a7f.jpg)
(http://i748.photobucket.com/albums/xx122/50ft-trad/IMG_5469_zpse963eb72.jpg)
(http://i748.photobucket.com/albums/xx122/50ft-trad/IMG_5470_zps7410ae93.jpg)
(http://i748.photobucket.com/albums/xx122/50ft-trad/IMG_5472_zpseaa8b656.jpg)
The SwissBuck Sidekick and Soft Touch 14 share the same clip blade
Too much talking ... not enough piccies :pok: :pok:
:P :D :D
Here's some piccies of the Traveller variants that I've been meaning to take for a while :tu:
I I have been wanting to pick up a swissbuck traveler for a bit. Are the scales the same material as standard? Are they more grippy in design and materials that the smooth faced wengers?
Cheers
I I have been wanting to pick up a swissbuck traveler for a bit. Are the scales the same material as standard? Are they more grippy in design and materials that the smooth faced wengers?
Cheers
Too much talking ... not enough piccies :pok: :pok:
:P :D :D
Here's some piccies of the Traveller variants that I've been meaning to take for a while :tu:
I am :drool: after some of these bug time... Nice set! :cheers:
Too much talking ... not enough piccies :pok: :pok:
:P :D :D
Here's some piccies of the Traveller variants that I've been meaning to take for a while :tu:
(http://i748.photobucket.com/albums/xx122/50ft-trad/IMG_5466_zps0e4a4d50.jpg)
Top Row L-R:
(Victorinox) Climber Small
Alinghi Souvenir
Soft Touch 14
Classic Traveller
Part-Serrated Traveller (No T&T)
Btm Row L-R
Wood 03
Evowood 14
SwissBuck Sidekick
Metal 50
Brushed Stainless Traveller
(http://i748.photobucket.com/albums/xx122/50ft-trad/IMG_5468_zps582a8a7f.jpg)
(http://i748.photobucket.com/albums/xx122/50ft-trad/IMG_5469_zpse963eb72.jpg)
(http://i748.photobucket.com/albums/xx122/50ft-trad/IMG_5470_zps7410ae93.jpg)
(http://i748.photobucket.com/albums/xx122/50ft-trad/IMG_5472_zpseaa8b656.jpg)
The SwissBuck Sidekick and Soft Touch 14 share the same clip blade
Too much talking ... not enough piccies :pok: :pok:Amen to that! :salute: :salute:
:P :D :D
Are you maybe referring to Wenger's patent granted in 1973 for the spark-erosion method for making the filing surface on the nail-file? No more parallel lines, just a harshly-stippled surface. Like the nail-files on Wenger and Victorinox knives now except the Executive.
Too much talking ... not enough piccies :pok: :pok:
:P :D :D
Here's some piccies of the Traveller variants that I've been meaning to take for a while :tu:
(http://i748.photobucket.com/albums/xx122/50ft-trad/IMG_5466_zps0e4a4d50.jpg)
Top Row L-R:
(Victorinox) Climber Small
Alinghi Souvenir
Soft Touch 14
Classic Traveller
Part-Serrated Traveller (No T&T)
Btm Row L-R
Wood 03
Evowood 14
SwissBuck Sidekick
Metal 50
Brushed Stainless Traveller
(http://i748.photobucket.com/albums/xx122/50ft-trad/IMG_5468_zps582a8a7f.jpg)
(http://i748.photobucket.com/albums/xx122/50ft-trad/IMG_5469_zpse963eb72.jpg)
(http://i748.photobucket.com/albums/xx122/50ft-trad/IMG_5470_zps7410ae93.jpg)
(http://i748.photobucket.com/albums/xx122/50ft-trad/IMG_5472_zpseaa8b656.jpg)
The SwissBuck Sidekick and Soft Touch 14 share the same clip blade
Hope you folks forgive me for all the text :)
Too much talking ... not enough piccies :pok: :pok:
:P :D :D
Here's some piccies of the Traveller variants that I've been meaning to take for a while :tu:
Here is a nice picture, latest Wenger. It is a shame i just fish, hope you like the picture
....
Here is a nice picture, latest Wenger. It is a shame i just fish, hope you like the picture
(http://forum.multitool.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=32456.0;attach=48037;image)
:D
I will let this matter rest after this for awhile.
Old research i had on the changing of the sides, can opener/fl.scr.dr is around 1977. It means again to me it fit more into the 1975 modern SAK. Not 100% here on the side change, hopefully we could have 1975 soon.
Hope you folks forgive me for all the text :)
Here is a nice picture, latest Wenger. It is a shame i just fish, hope you like the picture
(http://forum.multitool.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=32456.0;attach=48037;image)
....
Is that your knife? If so glad to see they're out. Regardless, a great photo. :tu:
:D
I will let this matter rest after this for awhile.
Old research i had on the changing of the sides, can opener/fl.scr.dr is around 1977. It means again to me it fit more into the 1975 modern SAK. Not 100% here on the side change, hopefully we could have 1975 soon.
Hope you folks forgive me for all the text :)
Here is a nice picture, latest Wenger. It is a shame i just fish, hope you like the picture
(http://forum.multitool.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=32456.0;attach=48037;image)
Is that your knife? If so glad to see they're out. Regardless, a great photo. :tu:
Lithos ...
Is that your knife? If so glad to see they're out. Regardless, a great photo. :tu:
Lithos - Blue Bahia
.....
Lithos Landscape Jasper
....
Lithos - Blue Bahia
(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-HdPWcrQ-Gxg/UWBTHxGCogI/AAAAAAAAGxE/lvNJ8JpjgNs/s800/DSCN2161_r.jpg)
(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-tM56zPw3KMQ/UWBTHFhc1GI/AAAAAAAAGuI/MPd3FxAyiuk/s800/DSCN2146_r.jpg)
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-eDyOknVvtKs/UWBTHHxyDUI/AAAAAAAAGw8/bHWFyTvENIg/s800/DSCN2148_r.jpg)
Lithos Landscape Jasper
(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-_kfHHkbPPkQ/UWBTJxNJH_I/AAAAAAAAGvQ/ptaOxJoR6r0/s800/DSCN2205_r.jpg)
(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-JHyoZ42RbHU/UWBTJHMLwLI/AAAAAAAAGu0/i33s7UquAbc/s800/DSCN2195_r.jpg)
(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-SUJZ_GK8bQY/UWBTJRbkfkI/AAAAAAAAGu8/hICZFXnFt24/s800/DSCN2197_r.jpg)
See more pics...
(https://picasaweb.google.com/114771380811023687526/DiverseWenger?authuser=0&feat=directlink)
Do the snow scales come on other models as well?Currently wenger is offering it on 4 models in North America:
Do the snow scales come on other models as well?Currently wenger is offering it on 4 models in North America:
- Ranger 50
- Ranger 79
- Evo 13
- Evo 10
Do the snow scales come on other models as well?Currently wenger is offering it on 4 models in North America:
- Ranger 50
- Ranger 79
- Evo 13
- Evo 10
More AP Snow, but a crappy picture compared to Northman's pictures.
One thing I noticed is these two Wenger came with what appears to be higher quality split-rings, and they look to be a nickle-silver alloy. Anyone else notice a change in split-rings recently? I hope Victorinox switches to these rings.
....That's the nature of the Realtree Camo process, you'll find that with any of their camo series. I think they have a unique pattern of 'n' size, then they make large sheets of 'm' size ('m' might equal 'n') then the sheet is cut into 'x' number of sections and each section is applied to the item. I'm not sure of the application process, but I think it's similar to how large advertising is done these days when it envelopes something like a buss or other irregular shape.
Interesting that the same Ranger model from North Man and ICFT has different camo patterns.
....OK here is a very quick snap; is this what you had in mind?
Can you take a picture from a black Ranger and an AP blaze and an AP snow together to compare? This would be a nice shot... ;)
....OK here is a very quick snap; is this what you had in mind?
Can you take a picture from a black Ranger and an AP blaze and an AP snow together to compare? This would be a nice shot... ;)
[Updated pic a 2nd time... now I'm done.]
....OK here is a very quick snap; is this what you had in mind?
Can you take a picture from a black Ranger and an AP blaze and an AP snow together to compare? This would be a nice shot... ;)
[Updated pic a 2nd time... now I'm done.]
Wenger and Victorinox have both over the years been increasing their cross marketing of their different product lines, and both have expanded their watch lines greatly over the past few years. So putting a watch and Swiss Army Knife in the same box would be quite natural, and they have both been doing it. I've been wondering what Wenger will be doing after they are no longer puting their own brand on SAKs.
Here is a recent example by Wenger; they package together one of their Terragraph model watches with an EvoWood S557 SAK. I was surprised to find out that the EvoWood scales on this knife are a really light tan color, quite different from the normal EvoWood scales.
The box for the package is also quite nice.
It Wenger SGT Fix-It was bought a year ago.
There was a usual instruction of Wenger
more foto
A NIB sharper image King Arthur just went for $227. Pretty crazy, that knife seems to be quite rare:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/281089326223?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1438.l2649
Two different version of the fancy pattern, on the Lancelot (L) and King Arthur (R).
Two different version of the fancy pattern, on the Lancelot (L) and King Arthur (R).
Karl,
so is there a Lancelot variation with the corkscrew?
I bought one from Felinvet with standard phillips, and my model has the same scales as the other from the series.
http://www.edcsource.com/113558,auction_id,auction_details
I have seen an other example like mine here on the forum
Carlo,
I can't keep my left and right straight, particularly at two in the morning. Should be Lancelot (R) and King Arthur (L).
Fancy and plain King Arthurs, and fancy and plain Lancelots.
Any ideas why there were 2 variants? Perhaps the difference between the European and N.A. models? Anyone have a Diplomat brochure?To be honest I'm not even sure there were other variants sold in Europe apart from the "Ivanhoe" (1 58 00) and "Gawain" (1 59 00).
Any ideas why there were 2 variants? Perhaps the difference between the European and N.A. models? Anyone have a Diplomat brochure?To be honest I'm not even sure there were other variants sold in Europe apart from the "Ivanhoe" (1 58 00) and "Gawain" (1 59 00).
At least, I have never seen them for sale here.
That an Elk or Caribou tooth as a fob? Don't see that style past the mountain folk. First time seeing one suspended via paracord, but only makes sense - leather does become brittle over the many seasons.
Some interesting knives I bought from Japan.
Not 100% sure about the black Motorist, but for the others I suspect they were only sold in Japan.
Top view pictures on the wiki.
(http://www.sakwiki.com/show_image.php?id=2796)
(http://www.sakwiki.com/show_image.php?id=2798)
(http://www.sakwiki.com/show_image.php?id=2800)
(http://www.sakwiki.com/show_image.php?id=2801)
Some great looking stuff there! :tu:
How did you get knives out of Japan? Every time I've tried I've been told they can't ship because of a) Japanese regulations, b) US regulations, and/or c) Victorinox regulations.
Some great looking stuff there! :tu:
How did you get knives out of Japan? Every time I've tried I've been told they can't ship because of a) Japanese regulations, b) US regulations, and/or c) Victorinox regulations.
Thanks!
I honestly did not have any problems, and I'm pretty sure that japanese regulations do allow export of knives.
For shops not willing to ship internationally there is this service, which seems to be quite popular
http://www.tenso.com/en/
I registered there, but had no need to use it (so can't really give an opinion)
Some great looking stuff there! :tu:
How did you get knives out of Japan? Every time I've tried I've been told they can't ship because of a) Japanese regulations, b) US regulations, and/or c) Victorinox regulations.
Thanks!
I honestly did not have any problems, and I'm pretty sure that japanese regulations do allow export of knives.
For shops not willing to ship internationally there is this service, which seems to be quite popular
http://http://www.tenso.com/en/
I registered there, but had no need to use it (so can't really give an opinion)
Some interesting knives I bought from Japan.
Not 100% sure about the black Motorist, but for the others I suspect they were only sold in Japan.
Top view pictures on the wiki.
http://www.sakwiki.com/show_image.php?id=2796 (http://www.sakwiki.com/show_image.php?id=2796)
http://www.sakwiki.com/show_image.php?id=2798 (http://www.sakwiki.com/show_image.php?id=2798)
http://www.sakwiki.com/show_image.php?id=2800 (http://www.sakwiki.com/show_image.php?id=2800)
http://www.sakwiki.com/show_image.php?id=2801 (http://www.sakwiki.com/show_image.php?id=2801)
It Wenger SGT Fix-It was bought a year ago.
There was a usual instruction of Wenger
Some great looking stuff there! :tu:
How did you get knives out of Japan? Every time I've tried I've been told they can't ship because of a) Japanese regulations, b) US regulations, and/or c) Victorinox regulations.
Thanks!
I honestly did not have any problems, and I'm pretty sure that japanese regulations do allow export of knives.
For shops not willing to ship internationally there is this service, which seems to be quite popular
http://http://www.tenso.com/en/
I registered there, but had no need to use it (so can't really give an opinion)
Has anyone actually dealt with Tenso?
Good combination of knives, SAKs do work so well outdoors in combination with a good fixed-blade.
My latest treasure is an 82mm 2-layer Wenger. Whoever was in charge at the time they made this knife seems to know their stuff as it is top quality.
I found two interesting old brochures.
One is for the Lithos written in german.
The other is titled "Argyros" and is about the Sterling and Imperial models.
@ Francis: I would upload them directly to the wiki, but I can't see the option.
In fact, I am only allowed to upload pictures to the knives gallery, but not to the catalog section.
I also don't see any option to make small edits.
Anyway, here are the pictures
Good combination of knives, SAKs do work so well outdoors in combination with a good fixed-blade.
My latest treasure is an 82mm 2-layer Wenger. Whoever was in charge at the time they made this knife seems to know their stuff as it is top quality.
I found two interesting old brochures.That's a great find. :tu: :salute:
One is for the Lithos written in german.
The other is titled "Argyros" and is about the Sterling and Imperial models.
@ Francis: I would upload them directly to the wiki, but I can't see the option.
In fact, I am only allowed to upload pictures to the knives gallery, but not to the catalog section.
I also don't see any option to make small edits.
Anyway, here are the pictures
That's a great find. :tu: :salute:
You should be able to upload them to the wenger catalog gallery (http://www.sakwiki.com/tiki-browse_gallery.php?galleryId=70) just as you would to any othe open gallery. If not I'll put them somewhere, need to reorganize that gallery a bit; maybe consolidate the single pages into a sub-gallery. Were you trying to put them somewhere else?
What do you mean by small edits? to you mean to image names and descriptions? That might be restricted, but you should be able to edit the pages.
if you have higher resolution images it would be great if you emailed them to me.
Let me check your account status, at one point anyone who had edited a page was given edit permissions, but the default changed to no edit for security reasons. There is some info in the wiki thread, but I'll update the info on the wiki itself. If you have never edited a page before that is likely the reason, and I'll fix you up the next time I'm on.That's a great find. :tu: :salute:
You should be able to upload them to the wenger catalog gallery (http://www.sakwiki.com/tiki-browse_gallery.php?galleryId=70) just as you would to any othe open gallery. If not I'll put them somewhere, need to reorganize that gallery a bit; maybe consolidate the single pages into a sub-gallery. Were you trying to put them somewhere else?
What do you mean by small edits? to you mean to image names and descriptions? That might be restricted, but you should be able to edit the pages.
if you have higher resolution images it would be great if you emailed them to me.
Francis,
I read in the Wiki FAQ that
"How do I edit pages?
You need to login to the wiki. Look for the edit icon on the top right of each page, or the "edit" button on the bottom left of each page".
My problem is that I don't see the "edit icon" or the "edit button" on the pages.
Also, is there a way to upload more than 6 images at once?
Anyway, here are the hi-res pictures, but you will need to crop them
Lithos
https://picasaweb.google.com/carlomoreschi/Lithos?authuser=0&authkey=Gv1sRgCOe-md7CvuOAFQ&feat=directlink
Argyros
https://picasaweb.google.com/carlomoreschi/Argyros?authuser=0&authkey=Gv1sRgCLXv2IO42rPhYg&feat=directlink
Let me check your account status, at one point anyone who had edited a page was given edit permissions, but the default changed to no edit for security reasons. There is some info in the wiki thread, but I'll update the info on the wiki itself. If you have never edited a page before that is likely the reason, and I'll fix you up the next time I'm on.Francis,
I processed the small pictures anD they benefit a lot so I would not upload the set of images shown here. I'll look at the larger size, but will like just email you back the processed smaller images for upload.
You should be all set for edits. If I send them to you though then your contribution is noted better than in the image desc, not that you'll get famous or anything :). I can always move them around later as I often do.Let me check your account status, at one point anyone who had edited a page was given edit permissions, but the default changed to no edit for security reasons. There is some info in the wiki thread, but I'll update the info on the wiki itself. If you have never edited a page before that is likely the reason, and I'll fix you up the next time I'm on.Francis,
I processed the small pictures anD they benefit a lot so I would not upload the set of images shown here. I'll look at the larger size, but will like just email you back the processed smaller images for upload.
you can upload the images directly to the wiki.
I was only asking as a way to help you.
You should be all set for edits. If I send them to you though then your contribution is noted better than in the image desc, not that you'll get famous or anything :). I can always move them around later as I often do.Let me check your account status, at one point anyone who had edited a page was given edit permissions, but the default changed to no edit for security reasons. There is some info in the wiki thread, but I'll update the info on the wiki itself. If you have never edited a page before that is likely the reason, and I'll fix you up the next time I'm on.Francis,
I processed the small pictures anD they benefit a lot so I would not upload the set of images shown here. I'll look at the larger size, but will like just email you back the processed smaller images for upload.
you can upload the images directly to the wiki.
I was only asking as a way to help you.
As per your question about uploading more than 6 images at a time, I have not found a browser that will do a batch upload although it is implied in the wiki upload that it is possible. It's probbaly a bad idea anyway incase there was a mistake.
OK I'll talk to you about Wiki stuff in PM to keep it out of this thread. I'm going to be uploading The Lithos Series Brochure in a few minutes. I reprocessed the large files.
Update: German Lithos Series Brochure (http://www.sakwiki.com/tiki-browse_gallery.php?galleryId=103)
UPDATE ON THE EVOHUNTER 505
Since I wanted to investigate a little more about the markets were this knife was sold, I sent an email to Wenger.
As usual, after few hours I got an answer, written in perfect italian by the Wenger Sales Assistant.
Here is part of the email, transated by me:
"Congratulations for this rare acquisition.
In fact, of that knife were produced only 500 pieces.
Initially, the knife was produced for the Czech Republic (300 units). Then, 200 additional units were produced, which were sold in different countries: Italy, Netherlands, Spain, Hong Kong and Venezuela."
OK I'll talk to you about Wiki stuff in PM to keep it out of this thread. I'm going to be uploading The Lithos Series Brochure in a few minutes. I reprocessed the large files.
Update: German Lithos Series Brochure (http://www.sakwiki.com/tiki-browse_gallery.php?galleryId=103)
Thanks!UPDATE ON THE EVOHUNTER 505
Since I wanted to investigate a little more about the markets were this knife was sold, I sent an email to Wenger.
As usual, after few hours I got an answer, written in perfect italian by the Wenger Sales Assistant.
Here is part of the email, transated by me:
"Congratulations for this rare acquisition.
In fact, of that knife were produced only 500 pieces.
Initially, the knife was produced for the Czech Republic (300 units). Then, 200 additional units were produced, which were sold in different countries: Italy, Netherlands, Spain, Hong Kong and Venezuela."
I think that the above informations only refer to the model with the standard red scales, because I saw the same knife with the new snow camo pattern for sale in the Czech Republic (catalog 1.505.059.806).
(http://img444.imageshack.us/img444/649/evohuntersnow.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/444/evohuntersnow.jpg/)
I think that the above informations only refer to the model with the standard red scales, because I saw the same knife with the new snow camo pattern for sale in the Czech Republic (catalog 1.505.059.806).
(http://img444.imageshack.us/img444/649/evohuntersnow.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/444/evohuntersnow.jpg/)
Did someone see this knife in real? To me it looks photoshoped :whistle: :D
Ranger 55 Wood, 150 Years SAC
I recently got a pretty nice vintage Vic Cracked Ice scaled knife, and then a Wenger one pops up.
Hello
My last SAK
Hello
My last SAK
HelloNice! ;)
My last SAK
A Wengerinox older style Fondue fork.
(http://forum.multitool.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=32456.0;attach=50254;image)
Ranger 38-38
(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-5RBmHW44KaE/UZeXFMJs8tI/AAAAAAAAHVE/7vM8RYP5pnI/s800/DSCN3154_r.jpg)
(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-r3q9iyzx0gM/UZeVMykWhnI/AAAAAAAAHTs/ZEfcHfRCue8/s800/DSCN3125_r.jpg)
Ranger 38-38
This looks like a crossbreed of teh 120 and 130 mm Wengers.
Did you buy this knife recently as a new one or has it maybe been made in teh transition phase between old and new Rangers?
And, does this knife hint us taht old and new Ranger parts are mixable?
Wenger likes orange! Maybe that's why we don't see too many Vics in orange.
I really like my Wenger Evo S18.The locking blade is nice and the evo scales make it look and feel great.It is my main pocket carry SAK.I also have the S18 for my daily carry. The locking blade feature works well.(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/05/27/a4y7upad.jpg)
I really like my Wenger Evo S18.The locking blade is nice and the evo scales make it look and feel great.It is my main pocket carry SAK.I also have the S18 for my daily carry. The locking blade feature works well.
my only complaint on the scales is that they are not made of carbon fiber.;-)I really like my Wenger Evo S18.The locking blade is nice and the evo scales make it look and feel great.It is my main pocket carry SAK.I also have the S18 for my daily carry. The locking blade feature works well.
How do you like the Evo scales? The 17/18 Wenger are one of my favorite SAKs but I never could get on with the Evo scales. I prefer the classic slim scales of the Forester (http://www.sakwiki.com/tiki-index.php?page=Forester)/Handyman (http://www.sakwiki.com/tiki-index.php?page=Handyman)better. Also while it's nice to have the lock, it kind of hinders the access to the scissors. :-\
(http://i1255.photobucket.com/albums/hh627/enki_ck/SAK/PC100015.jpg)
I really like my Wenger Evo S18.The locking blade is nice and the evo scales make it look and feel great.It is my main pocket carry SAK.I also have the S18 for my daily carry. The locking blade feature works well.
How do you like the Evo scales? The 17/18 Wenger are one of my favorite SAKs but I never could get on with the Evo scales. I prefer the classic slim scales of the Forester (http://www.sakwiki.com/tiki-index.php?page=Forester)/Handyman (http://www.sakwiki.com/tiki-index.php?page=Handyman)better. Also while it's nice to have the lock, it kind of hinders the access to the scissors. :-\
http://i1255.photobucket.com/albums/hh627/enki_ck/SAK/PC100015.jpg
my only complaint on the scales is that they are not made of carbon fiber.;-)
And yes, the lock partially blocks scissors access.
Wow! Thanks for that link.:))I really like my Wenger Evo S18.The locking blade is nice and the evo scales make it look and feel great.It is my main pocket carry SAK.I also have the S18 for my daily carry. The locking blade feature works well.
How do you like the Evo scales? The 17/18 Wenger are one of my favorite SAKs but I never could get on with the Evo scales. I prefer the classic slim scales of the Forester (http://www.sakwiki.com/tiki-index.php?page=Forester)/Handyman (http://www.sakwiki.com/tiki-index.php?page=Handyman)better. Also while it's nice to have the lock, it kind of hinders the access to the scissors. :-\
http://i1255.photobucket.com/albums/hh627/enki_ck/SAK/PC100015.jpg (http://i1255.photobucket.com/albums/hh627/enki_ck/SAK/PC100015.jpg)
my only complaint on the scales is that they are not made of carbon fiber.;-)
And yes, the lock partially blocks scissors access.
Let me introduce you to PTRSAK. :P
http://forum.multitool.org/index.php/topic,41486.msg662232.html#msg662232 (http://forum.multitool.org/index.php/topic,41486.msg662232.html#msg662232)
(http://i1309.photobucket.com/albums/s640/Peter_Thorpe/20121220_204802_zps956df845.jpg)
I never could get on with the Evo scales. I prefer the classic slim scales
I never could get on with the Evo scales. I prefer the classic slim scales
Couldn't agree more.
Have you see my "classic" S557?
http://forum.multitool.org/index.php/topic,43595.msg718695.html#msg718695
I prefer the orange to the yellow as well. Must have been the result of some flawed market survey on color, or they really wanted to reserve the orange or the special edition one in the Squadron set.Wenger likes orange! Maybe that's why we don't see too many Vics in orange.
Nice pictures!
Yes Wenger likes orange, but unfortunately only few models are available in this color (and only in Europe, as far as I can tell).
I really like this color and I prefer it over the Yellow in the RangerGrip configuration.
Is your RangerGrip the model 79 (with saw) or 61 (without)?
As for the pink...well, it would be interesting to know at which consumer market they were aiming, as I don't see the possibility of many ladies using such a big knife.
My latest Wenger:Nice!
Someone did a pretty decent job of putting rosewood grips on a Wenger Pointer; then proceded to use it fairly extensively. Cleaned up nicely.
I bought it to transplant the scales actually ................ I'll be transplanting the scales to increase the general contrast of the knife even more.Remember to show us the results!
My latest Wenger:
.....I bought it to transplant the scales actually ................ I'll be transplanting the scales to increase the general contrast of the knife even more.Remember to show us the results!
I think it is just too bad that Wenger never used the orange EvoGrip scales on the smaller 85mm knives.
I had the black knife in this set for a while, but could not really find out much information on it, I was not even sure who made it, I think it was sold as a Victorinox, but of course it looked for close to some of the previous Wengers we've seen with the imitation tortoise-shell and what appears to be an imitation-horn.
I picked up the extra one last week and one of them has the Tahara stamp like the previous similar ones, so I'm pretty sure these are all infact Wenger knives, or they were made by another cutler and sold by more than one company.
(http://forum.multitool.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=32456.0;attach=51400;image)
I had the black knife in this set for a while, but could not really find out much information on it, I was not even sure who made it, I think it was sold as a Victorinox, but of course it looked for close to some of the previous Wengers we've seen with the imitation tortoise-shell and what appears to be an imitation-horn.Love the shield on these! :salute: :salute:
I picked up the extra one last week and one of them has the Tahara stamp like the previous similar ones, so I'm pretty sure these are all infact Wenger knives, or they were made by another cutler and sold by more than one company.
(http://forum.multitool.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=32456.0;attach=51400;image)
Thank you very much for your e-mail and participation on Baselworld 2013. I am sorry not to have replied earlier, which I greatly regret.
We will certainly keep the more unique Wenger tools. However, I am sorry that I cannot give you any information on new product lines at the moment. We will keep our customers informed via the media on time. Thank you very much for your understanding and patience.
Very interested to see how this merging of the Swiss Knives turns out.
A little cross-post here. With some Wenger history that seems forgotten. More pics at a leter date after it gets some TLC. Wenger 3-Layers Hobo style (one of the previous owners of this knife treated it very badly, I know they paid a price :)).
(http://forum.multitool.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=43126.0;attach=51537;image)
Very interested to see how this merging of the Swiss Knives turns out.
A little cross-post here. With some Wenger history that seems forgotten. More pics at a leter date after it gets some TLC. Wenger 3-Layers Hobo style (one of the previous owners of this knife treated it very badly, I know they paid a price :)).
Evo Hunters .... :mail:
+1 :cheers: I love this configuration. EvoWood would have been killer.Evo Hunters .... :mail:
Excellent! :cheers:
Now I need to go and look for these myself :) That small blade, orange and snow camo... :drool: Just why not EvoWood too.
Ya looks like only 3 people thought it was really worth something, and one of them was the seller.Very interested to see how this merging of the Swiss Knives turns out.
A little cross-post here. With some Wenger history that seems forgotten. More pics at a leter date after it gets some TLC. Wenger 3-Layers Hobo style (one of the previous owners of this knife treated it very badly, I know they paid a price :)).
Really an unusual find, congratulations! :tu:
I saw the auction: too bad that the blade was abused so much.
Because of this, I was not expecting this knife to be sold as such a premium price.
Ya looks like only 3 people thought it was really worth something, and one of them was the seller.
I had to ignore the blade, because I've never heard of this moldel before and I think few others have as well. The rest of the tool is in excellent condition. Seems like a modder or Wenger might be able to replace the blade, especially if I can find the same one in a knife and remove it. Even if I never do that though I'm happy with the deal (yes because I'm SAK crazy). Something interesting to explore.
Of course if a batch of these turn up now that people know what to look for, this one won't be worth much, but I'll be able to buy another nicer one and still be happy.
This will be a fun project, perfect for expanding my sharpening experience and testing my new shapening jig mods.
Evo Hunters .... :mail:
(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-p2kj23xT3ko/Ua9wnGyddSI/AAAAAAAAHgQ/2nerQPBUxkk/s800/DSCN3600_r.jpg)
Evo Hunters .... :mail:
So you see now that the EvoHunter Snow is a real knife..... :D
Great score there, congratulations! :tu:
Never heard about the ap blaze version.
Now, for the "wiki" part.
Would you mind uploading this picture to the wiki gallery, or let me upload it with proper credits?
Could you also check for the catalog numbers (on the box labels) of both the snow and ap blaze?
Very nice stuff all :tu:It is a small "gutting blade", according to the wiki used to "to cut open the stomach cavity of any animal brought down by a hunter in the field"... something we all do everyday.... :D
Because I am being lazy, can someone tell me what that evil looking blade in the Evohunter is designed for?
My latest Wenger is 1 62 41 , not opened since the factory. The Ap Blaze is still EDC and the scales are high quality!Nice!
hehe.... :D
Yes. Now I believe you. This was the only reason for me to order this snow, to be sure it really exists. :D
Please feel free to upload the pic to wiki. The numbers are:
red: 1.505.059.300
Blaze: 1.505.059.804
Snow: 1.505.059.806
If someone wants to know my French source for these three, just send me a PM.
I'm guessing they did not sell all of the ones they made, and they just put new scales on some, rather than making an addtional run. Maybe Wenger can confirm, it would be great to know.Evo Hunters .... :mail:
So you see now that the EvoHunter Snow is a real knife..... :D
Great score there, congratulations! :tu:
Never heard about the ap blaze version.
Now, for the "wiki" part.
Would you mind uploading this picture to the wiki gallery, or let me upload it with proper credits?
Could you also check for the catalog numbers (on the box labels) of both the snow and ap blaze?
Yes. Now I believe you. This was the only reason for me to order this snow, to be sure it really exists. :D
Please feel free to upload the pic to wiki. The numbers are:
red: 1.505.059.300
Blaze: 1.505.059.804
Snow: 1.505.059.806
If someone wants to know my French source for these three, just send me a PM.
hehe.... :D
Thanks for the informations.
I think the EvoHunter wiki page is really in need of an edit
Cool Wenger Hobo, ColoSwiss. When do you figure it was made?
I'm guessing they did not sell all of the ones they made, and they just put new scales on some, rather than making an addtional run. Maybe Wenger can confirm, it would be great to know.
Thanks, but most of my knowledge (which is very limited to only what I really like to collect) came from reading other member messages here.
You are more than welcome to edit the pages on sakwiki. You are more than qualified and very knowledgeable in SAKs and I'm sure Francis would welcome a bit of help especially on the Wenger pages. There are lots of pages that still need to be written and we can't expect Francis to do all the work. It's not that hard to make a page or edit it and there are also templates to make the job easier. :salute:
EDIT: I see you've been quite busy helping out already. :D Very nice. :cheers: I as a Wenger fan appreciate it a lot.
Posted this over in a Picnic sets thread (http://forum.multitool.org/index.php/topic,44848.msg736492.html#msg736492) but it should get some well deserved time here in the Wenger thread too. This appears to be some issued kit to soldiers. It is an interlocking spoon and fork with Wengerinox and "58" on he back of the spoon handle.Interesting!
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Does anybody know the EDC seller? Perhaps he still has the catalog picture in a bigger size.
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Does anybody know the EDC seller? Perhaps he still has the catalog picture in a bigger size.
Here's his profile: http://forum.multitool.org/index.php?action=profile;area=summary;u=43
+1 58 might not represent the year, but if it does that would make if very interesting.Posted this over in a Picnic sets thread (http://forum.multitool.org/index.php/topic,44848.msg736492.html#msg736492) but it should get some well deserved time here in the Wenger thread too. This appears to be some issued kit to soldiers. It is an interlocking spoon and fork with Wengerinox and "58" on he back of the spoon handle.Interesting!
Wenger Tactile 813 (with standard red Esquire). The Tactile has a matte red neoprene handle. Tried to take an indoor shot, but the color didn't really show properly.That looks really nice.
Catalog number is: 1.81.11.813. Sold by Swissknife (Heidi Shop) for 19.80 SF / $15.84. Don't have a date.
Wenger Tactile 813 (with standard red Esquire). The Tactile has a matte red neoprene handle. Tried to take an indoor shot, but the color didn't really show properly.
Catalog number is: 1.81.11.813. Sold by Swissknife (Heidi Shop) for 19.80 SF / $15.84. Don't have a date.
Any info about this knife?
It's a commander with metal scales with print similar to the ones from the serie "The Life". It's also numbered.
Hello,Basilio..that will feel good grip. .and nice bo implements. Matt bo is always got my :tu:
today I found a Evo 63 Blackout SoftTouch in a local shop.
(http://www.sakwiki.com/show_image.php?id=2876)
Is (or was) this model really exclusive to the Australian market?
http://www.sakwiki.com/tiki-index.php?page=Entree
The shop owner told me he had three (this was the last one) and that he came across them way before the Blackout models (with EvoGrip scales) were available.
I think this is confusion that being brought by Wenger themselves, for example I saw knives that supposed to be King Arthurs, but they had tools set which is completely the same as Lancelot (King Arthur must have wrench). Also some guy here posted Galahad with stag engraved on the bottom, which was never mentioned in any of Wenger's catalog. Probably you were dealing with cheaper model of Merlin, or with specific model for a different market area.
As you said I too check eBay frequently. This one seems to have been missed by most although I did not get it cheap. It is hard to find NIB items that do not attract tons of collector interest. I am posting a blog post about it with more photos for tomorrow so check it sometime Monday.
I think this is confusion that being brought by Wenger themselves, for example I saw knives that supposed to be King Arthurs, but they had tools set which is completely the same as Lancelot (King Arthur must have wrench). Also some guy here posted Galahad with stag engraved on the bottom, which was never mentioned in any of Wenger's catalog. Probably you were dealing with cheaper model of Merlin, or with specific model for a different market area.
This? It has the same blade configuration as the Galahad, but to the best of my knowledge in not part of the Dynasty series. The logo looks like the one for Hartford Insurance. The Britannia has the same blades as the Gawain. photo #1 The Stag has a lock; the Britannia does not.
There is a fancy version of the Lancelot that shows up in catalogs (right). There is also a fancy version of the King Arthur (left) that was reportedly a special run for Sharper Image. photo #2
I have a blue version of the Gawain, and ICFT has a red version of one of the models.photo #3
Never have managed to pick up a Merlin, so can't comment on that.
Dynasty Question; the last 3 Merlins that have appeared on ebay all had hot-stamped silvered emblems, but the one SM5K showed here and uploaded to SAKwiki appears to have a white printed emblem. Does anyone have any information on this, or confirmation? I have one of the hot-stamped ones, I will photograph as soon as i can.
I made a visit to a local shop today, and the 2005 dealer's catalog (which I sadly don't own) shows all the three Tactiles.
The shop owner is going to make a copy of this page for me.
Will post when available.
1st Wenger Dynasty series knife I have in its luxury box. This knife is new old stock I guess. It has some old oil here and there but the case is not stained with it inside. This is the Ivanhoe model.
(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-F5NIRPwzGig/Ub4_lY9aSBI/AAAAAAAAfZU/8mnSzXK6iVo/s800/Wenger%2520Ivanhoe-02.JPG)
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-lHsEzONULxE/Ub4_m9ABjcI/AAAAAAAAfgM/uI_2ENeDvj0/s800/Wenger%2520Ivanhoe-04.JPG)
(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-YCfTP-5f1PU/Ub4_t1bzfPI/AAAAAAAAfaU/d_a1EC2BQx8/s800/Wenger%2520Ivanhoe-10.JPG)
(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-o5f7c4tXmiM/Ub4_pHly0zI/AAAAAAAAfZ0/cef8hR4p3t4/s800/Wenger%2520Ivanhoe-06.JPG)
(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-P5spwhkSmf4/Ub4_qa_gZKI/AAAAAAAAfZ8/PE9XOMifiTg/s800/Wenger%2520Ivanhoe-07.JPG)
Thanks for sharing these. :salute:
I made a visit to a local shop today, and the 2005 dealer's catalog (which I sadly don't own) shows all the three Tactiles.
The shop owner is going to make a copy of this page for me.
Will post when available.
I uploaded on the wiki two single catalog pages.
The first one is from a 2005 European dealers catalog
(http://www.sakwiki.com/show_image.php?id=2880)
It shows the all three Tacticle models along with some other interesting stuff like the "Camo" line, which were basically the precursors of the Hardwood series (will update later the wiki with them).
The second page is from a 2006 European dealers catalog
(http://www.sakwiki.com/show_image.php?id=2879)
Only the Tacticle 811 is displayed (along with its catalog number).
Since they are not showing up, I think the Tacticles 813 and 812 were probably discontinued from this year.
Edit: Now just when I thought the research on the Tacticles was complete, I realized the Tacticle 812 shown above has the corckscrew instead of the phillips driver..... :ahhh
Dynasty Question; the last 3 Merlins that have appeared on ebay all had hot-stamped silvered emblems, but the one SM5K showed here and uploaded to SAKwiki appears to have a white printed emblem. Does anyone have any information on this, or confirmation? I have one of the hot-stamped ones, I will photograph as soon as i can.
I checked mine and the emblem is hot stamped (see attachments).
It was, however, very niclely done, and I had to touch it with my finger to check.
I had a look at the pictures by stressmaster, and I believe (my opinion) his model has probably the emblem hot stamped as well and not printed.
I also did look back at the last ebay auction you probably mentioned.
The emblem looks a little different (it seems to have little less details, for example on the helmet above the cross), but it is not easy to see from the auction image.
Perhaps Wenger changed over time the way the emblem was stamped. ???
Edit: added a comparison image between the Merlin emblem I saw on ebay (left) and mine (right). Sorry for the poor quality but I had to use a lot of zoom.
There is clearly a difference in my opinion.
I had a hard time getting any kind of decent photos of this Wenger Esquire color display. It measures 11 inches x 11 inches and is made of shiny black plastic. The scales are mounted with double sided tape I think.
(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-SY6AfdELEoY/Ub90K85GR4I/AAAAAAAAfko/izxea97kknU/s800/Wenger%2520Display-3.JPG)
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I had a hard time getting any kind of decent photos of this Wenger Esquire color display. It measures 11 inches x 11 inches and is made of shiny black plastic. The scales are mounted with double sided tape I think.Very interesting!
Fancy and plain versions of King Arthur (left), and fancy and plain versions of Lancelot (right).
I had a hard time getting any kind of decent photos of this Wenger Esquire color display. It measures 11 inches x 11 inches and is made of shiny black plastic. The scales are mounted with double sided tape I think.Very interesting!
Fancy and plain versions of King Arthur (left), and fancy and plain versions of Lancelot (right).
Looking at ebay completed auctions I just saw that a King Arthur with that elaborate design was recently sold, for quite an high price
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Wenger-Delemont-13-Tool-Swiss-Army-Knife-Stainless-Black-w-White-Animal-Design-/400497833588?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item5d3f87f674&nma=true&si=XqNfY1fu1jzRAhGVfn65g7T071s%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557
Because of the seller shipping restrictions, I could not even see the auction when it was going on and missed also the Lancelot that was recently sold as well (many thanks to ebay for this "great" feature).
Edit: Now just when I thought the research on the Tacticles was complete, I realized the Tacticle 812 shown above has the corckscrew instead of the phillips driver..... :ahhh
I had a hard time getting any kind of decent photos of this Wenger Esquire color display. It measures 11 inches x 11 inches and is made of shiny black plastic. The scales are mounted with double sided tape I think.
(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-SY6AfdELEoY/Ub90K85GR4I/AAAAAAAAfko/izxea97kknU/s800/Wenger%2520Display-3.JPG)
(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-OQEBsmULv9k/Ub90KXG9qFI/AAAAAAAAfkg/_7bG8IMQHz4/s800/Wenger%2520Display-2.JPG)
(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-JVON2MI932I/Ub90JjVzMvI/AAAAAAAAfkY/rqtAHrawkcE/s800/Wenger%2520Display-1.JPG)
What restrictions are you talking about?
Which lancelot?
This one: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Wenger-Delemont-13-Tool-Swiss-Army-Knife-Stainless-Black-w-White-Animal-Design-/251289113693?_trksid=p2047675.l2557&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEWNX%3AIT&nma=true&si=15JOxjWljRE5zAeBpIGC17svhPk%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc
I have a picture of the Tactile 812 with a corkscrew and the number 1.177.09.812. Also have a picture of the phillips version, but no number. The one I have has the phillips. Wonder if it was a difference between Europe and North America?I also have the 812 with phillips, but never saw the corckscrew version.
What restrictions are you talking about?
Which lancelot?
This one: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Wenger-Delemont-13-Tool-Swiss-Army-Knife-Stainless-Black-w-White-Animal-Design-/251289113693?_trksid=p2047675.l2557&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEWNX%3AIT&nma=true&si=15JOxjWljRE5zAeBpIGC17svhPk%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc
Yes, that was the Lancelot.
With much disappointment I discovered this: if a seller apply a shipping restriction to his auction (let's say, USA only) and if he set an ebay option to not allow bidders from outside USA to place a bid, well that auction will not be displayed on pc's located outside USA.
I suspect this is something related at IP level.
Funny thing is that 98% of the time I ask seller permission to bid, they are always more than happy to ship to my country. But I can't ask if I don't see the auction.
I did find myself a way to "cheat" a little the system (using a different internet browser where I never logged into ebay), but it works only to display auctions from specific sellers, not for general searches.I have a picture of the Tactile 812 with a corkscrew and the number 1.177.09.812. Also have a picture of the phillips version, but no number. The one I have has the phillips. Wonder if it was a difference between Europe and North America?I also have the 812 with phillips, but never saw the corckscrew version.
Interesting thing is that the other european catalog page posted on that old EDC auction
http://www.edcsource.com/auction_details.php?name=Drop%20Point%20%20Swiss%20Auction&auction_id=105158
shows the 812 with phillips.
I'm not even sure if the Tactiles were ever imported in North America
Hi
Latest Wenger is the Rangerwood 55, i have had this in my hand before and it is a high class knife. Feels really well.
(http://forum.multitool.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=32456.0;attach=52458;image)
Hi
Latest Wenger is the Rangerwood 55, i have had this in my hand before and it is a high class knife. Feels really well.
(http://forum.multitool.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=32456.0;attach=52458;image)
Are the hunters no longer being sold anywhere? I haven't been able to find them.
Hi
Latest Wenger is the Rangerwood 55, i have had this in my hand before and it is a high class knife. Feels really well.
Hey, I'm just glad it went into good hands!
It was me, I bought that Lancelot. Sorry, mate :)
But to my knowledge particulary this seller doesn't have any restrictions. More than this, I'm located in Ukraine, country which sellers don't like much harder then Italy, so how come you didn't see this auction while I did? I think to avoid restrictions you should use proxy server. And by the way, how do you explore listings that have ended?
Ranger 55 Wood, 150 Years SAC
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-3ULk-UvICos/UYU-OajASAI/AAAAAAAAHDQ/foleVwxpa3M/s640/DSCN2690_r.jpg)
Ranger 55 Wood, 150 Years SAC
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-3ULk-UvICos/UYU-OajASAI/AAAAAAAAHDQ/foleVwxpa3M/s640/DSCN2690_r.jpg)
I decided to "pull the trigger" on the Rangerwood SAC, basically because it is the only Rangerwood model with the one hand opening blade (which I love).
Bought mine here
http://www.webers-world.com/product_info.php?info=p531_RangerWood-161-SAC.html
There are basically two different versions of this knife.
The one I received is exactly as shown in the above link.
The SAC logo is on the front scale, and the balde does not have any markings.
The box is also very similar to the one shown by Martin, has the SAC logo but not the 150 years one.
So apparently there are two SAC versions: one for the 150 years, and one "standard".
Sorry if it was old news, but I just realized this today.
Will post pictures of my Rangerwood 161 soon.
Box label on mine example reads: AF.1.077.161.830.P1.CAS, date 11 2012
Variations of Wenger Major :
On SakWiki, 2 Wenger Major are referenced :
- 1.23.03 Wenger Major (http://www.sakwiki.com/tiki-index.php?page=Wenger+Major)
- 1.23.13 Wenger (Major) with small blade instead of nail file (http://www.sakwiki.com/tiki-index.php?page=Wenger+1.23.13)
But another Major Wenger was discovered by one of my friends : this model is like 1.23.03 Wenger Major but with a Phillips Screwdriver instead of the Corkscrew...
Does anyone know this model ?
Variations of Wenger Major :
On SakWiki, 2 Wenger Major are referenced :
- 1.23.03 Wenger Major (http://www.sakwiki.com/tiki-index.php?page=Wenger+Major)
- 1.23.13 Wenger (Major) with small blade instead of nail file (http://www.sakwiki.com/tiki-index.php?page=Wenger+1.23.13)
But another Major Wenger was discovered by one of my friends : this model is like 1.23.03 Wenger Major but with a Phillips Screwdriver instead of the Corkscrew...
Does anyone know this model ?
A nice solid vintage Wenger.
(http://forum.multitool.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=32456.0;attach=52529;image)
Variations of Wenger Major :
On SakWiki, 2 Wenger Major are referenced :
- 1.23.03 Wenger Major (http://www.sakwiki.com/tiki-index.php?page=Wenger+Major)
- 1.23.13 Wenger (Major) with small blade instead of nail file (http://www.sakwiki.com/tiki-index.php?page=Wenger+1.23.13)
But another Major Wenger was discovered by one of my friends : this model is like 1.23.03 Wenger Major but with a Phillips Screwdriver instead of the Corkscrew...
Does anyone know this model ?
Look at the catalog pages 92-95, I think you're talking about model 1.24.03. In North America good chance it was in the backpacker series if the imported that model.
Variations of Wenger Major :
On SakWiki, 2 Wenger Major are referenced :
- 1.23.03 Wenger Major (http://www.sakwiki.com/tiki-index.php?page=Wenger+Major)
- 1.23.13 Wenger (Major) with small blade instead of nail file (http://www.sakwiki.com/tiki-index.php?page=Wenger+1.23.13)
But another Major Wenger was discovered by one of my friends : this model is like 1.23.03 Wenger Major but with a Phillips Screwdriver instead of the Corkscrew...
Does anyone know this model ?
Its model number is 1.24.03 (short chain?) or 1.24.02 (key ring?). Don't have any other info on it.
Ordered mine direct from SAC (had problems with Weber and no longer deal with them). The handle logo is on the back side, and the blade has the etched logo. The number is AF.1.077.161.830.C. The box has the 150th anniversary logo.
:ahhh I bought another Traveler...
(http://forum.multitool.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=32456.0;attach=52525;image)
I decided to "pull the trigger" on the Rangerwood SAC, basically because it is the only Rangerwood model with the one hand opening blade (which I love).
Bought mine here
http://www.webers-world.com/product_info.php?info=p531_RangerWood-161-SAC.html
There are basically two different versions of this knife.
The one I received is exactly as shown in the above link.
The SAC logo is on the front scale, and the balde does not have any markings.
The box is also very similar to the one shown by Martin, has the SAC logo but not the 150 years one.
So apparently there are two SAC versions: one for the 150 years, and one "standard".
Sorry if it was old news, but I just realized this today.
Will post pictures of my Rangerwood 161 soon.
Box label on mine example reads: AF.1.077.161.830.P1.CAS, date 11 2012
Jean Claude, you've been told before if you want to advertise here to contact Grant Lamontagne (http://forum.multitool.or...php?action=pm;sa=send;u=2) for any further informations and options how to do it.
Please don't post any more links to your website and store until you do so. :salute:
Jean Claude, you've been told before if you want to advertise here to contact Grant Lamontagne (http://forum.multitool.or...php?action=pm;sa=send;u=2) for any further informations and options how to do it.
Please don't post any more links to your website and store until you do so. :salute:
OK, no problem I will never post anything here and so you will be satisfied
Bye
Jean Claude, you've been told before if you want to advertise here to contact Grant Lamontagne (http://forum.multitool.or...php?action=pm;sa=send;u=2) for any further informations and options how to do it.
Please don't post any more links to your website and store until you do so. :salute:
OK, no problem I will never post anything here and so you will be satisfied
Bye
You can post and talk about SAKs all you like and we encourage that. After all that's what this forum is for. But this is a privately owned and funded forum, which costs money, and is sponsored by members and sellers who pay for the privilege to advertise here. Allowing you to advertise here for free and post links to your store/boutique or however you want to call it would be disrespectful towards the people who actually pay for this service. :salute:
Jean Claude, you've been told before if you want to advertise here to contact Grant Lamontagne (http://forum.multitool.or...php?action=pm;sa=send;u=2) for any further informations and options how to do it.
Please don't post any more links to your website and store until you do so. :salute:
OK, no problem I will never post anything here and so you will be satisfied
Bye
You can post and talk about SAKs all you like and we encourage that. After all that's what this forum is for. But this is a privately owned and funded forum, which costs money, and is sponsored by members and sellers who pay for the privilege to advertise here. Allowing you to advertise here for free and post links to your store/boutique or however you want to call it would be disrespectful towards the people who actually pay for this service. :salute:
OK, It means I can post any links to EDC Source, Multitool.org, Multitool Gallery, Multitool Encyclopedia, SAKWiki, Swiss Army Knights but nothing else...
Sorry, but it is neither open nor very democratic, without being disrespectful to anyone.
I note once again that Americans and Europeans are culturally very differents.
Jean Claude, you've been told before if you want to advertise here to contact Grant Lamontagne (http://forum.multitool.or...php?action=pm;sa=send;u=2) for any further informations and options how to do it.
Please don't post any more links to your website and store until you do so. :salute:
OK, no problem I will never post anything here and so you will be satisfied
Bye
You can post and talk about SAKs all you like and we encourage that. After all that's what this forum is for. But this is a privately owned and funded forum, which costs money, and is sponsored by members and sellers who pay for the privilege to advertise here. Allowing you to advertise here for free and post links to your store/boutique or however you want to call it would be disrespectful towards the people who actually pay for this service. :salute:
OK, It means I can post any links to EDC Source, Multitool.org, Multitool Gallery, Multitool Encyclopedia, SAKWiki, Swiss Army Knights but nothing else...
Sorry, but it is neither open nor very democratic, without being disrespectful to anyone.
I note once again that Americans and Europeans are culturally very differents.
If you spent more time here you'd realise that you can post links here to pretty much anywhere. We even have a special forum to post links to good deals we find on other sites, be it eBay or some other store.
From your 12 posts so far 5 of them have been to your site and store and two were complaining why you can't post links to your store and some of them were reported as SPAM by the members. I'd call that advertising. As for the different cultures between Europe and America, well ... I'm European. ;)
So let's please get back to the topic here and discuss our love for the Wenger Swiss Army knives and if you wish to discuss this topic further please send me a PM (http://forum.multitool.org/index.php?action=pm;sa=send;u=3042).
Wow!!! What a beauty! Ivanhoe? What does "K2D2" mean?Don't know what it means or stands for. Thought maybe that little droid from Star Wars ordered a custom SAK and they got his id name wrong. :P :rofl:
Wow!!! What a beauty! Ivanhoe? What does "K2D2" mean?Don't know what it means or stands for. Thought maybe that little droid from Star Wars ordered a custom SAK and they got his id name wrong. :P :rofl:
The knife is of the likeness of a Dynasty series knife. The main blade has etching from Davos.
More details here. (http://sakfan.blogspot.com/2010/03/wenger-traveler-blue-alox.html)
Ordered mine direct from SAC (had problems with Weber and no longer deal with them). The handle logo is on the back side, and the blade has the etched logo. The number is AF.1.077.161.830.C. The box has the 150th anniversary logo.
Nice set!
Is there any date printed on the Ranger's box label?
Ok, it's time to respond with something.
Wenger Bernina. It was a crazy quest to find it. Bought last one, luckily it sat forgotten behind show window in russian accesories store for over a year.
Ok, it's time to respond with something.
Wenger Bernina. It was a crazy quest to find it. Bought last one, luckily it sat forgotten behind show window in russian accesories store for over a year.
I was just looking at that model yesterday in an old thread. :D Very nice find. :tu:
Yeah, and it's also a great gift for a woman that likes to sew ;) My second half was unbelievebly happy when I brought this baby to her. I was surprised myself by number of unique implements inside of it. Never thought it would be so hard to find it. They are discontinued long time ago, although sakwiki keeps silence about this.
I think it could be a little difficult to have the sakwiki updated daily with the availability of every single knife listed.
The Bernina is also still available online from many sources, at least here in Italy.
The Bernina is also still available online from many sources, at least here in Italy.
Many Wenger knives, even if officially discontinued, are still available in large stocks
QuoteI think it could be a little difficult to have the sakwiki updated daily with the availability of every single knife listed.
Number of SAKs is not that huge, it's not thousands or even hundreds of models, so I think sakwiki can be easily updated in time.
limited runs and different color variations
QuoteI think it could be a little difficult to have the sakwiki updated daily with the availability of every single knife listed.
Number of SAKs is not that huge, it's not thousands or even hundreds of models, so I think sakwiki can be easily updated in time.
The SAKwiki currently has cca 640 pages, most of them have multiple SAK variations listed and that are only major changes with different model numbers. If we would be counting all the limited runs and different color variations too the number would be :ahhh There are still lots of models that were discussed here on the forum but still haven't been added to the wiki cause information are still being gathered about them. So yes, there are literally thousands of different SAK models and variations. And the site is maintained by members here, volunteers who do it for the love of the Swiss Army knife.
Nice set!
Is there any date printed on the Ranger's box label?
Both of the SAC knives have what appears to be a date - 11 2012.
HiNice collection Igor!
Again I photographed my "Wenger Giant" + with new various scales.
Hi
Again I photographed my "Wenger Giant" + with new various scales.
And thanks to you and everyone else who has helped out with Sakwiki basilio :salute:
It is listed in the current catalog
Interesting Patroulle Des Glasier knife, never seen modern version before. Is it's blade etched as well? I have older one with red scales and brass plate, IMO older models look more neat. Nice collection anyways.
Ok, it's time to respond with something.
Wenger Bernina. It was a crazy quest to find it. Bought last one, luckily it sat forgotten behind show window in russian accesories store for over a year.
I was just looking at that model yesterday in an old thread. :D Very nice find. :tu:
Yeah, and it's also a great gift for a woman that likes to sew ;) My second half was unbelievebly happy when I brought this baby to her. I was surprised myself by number of unique implements inside of it. Never thought it would be so hard to find it. They are discontinued long time ago, although sakwiki keeps silence about this.
But I have to ask. Why do you use other peoples pictures of SAKs? We'd appreciate it much more if you posted the ones you bought. It doesn't matter if they are shot with a cellphone or a high quality camera. Some people might get offended for using their pictures.
QuoteBut I have to ask. Why do you use other peoples pictures of SAKs? We'd appreciate it much more if you posted the ones you bought. It doesn't matter if they are shot with a cellphone or a high quality camera. Some people might get offended for using their pictures.
LoL : ) Will you find anything more if I make a picture of the same knife? I just was too lazy to spend my time on taking new pics with good camera. If low quality pics of the same knife made by me with cell phone will make you happy, I'll do it, no problem ;) By the way, author of that photo doesn't mind me to use it :P
Condition means a lot in the SAK collecting community and that varies from SAK to SAK. So while Gim's Wenger Bernina is nice (and I see by his collection he still has it ) pictures of your own SAK would be nicer.
I have 3 Wengers SAK, old models, a Ranger Mountaineer, a Handyman and a Esquire. I prefer Wenger on Victorinox. Here they are:
(http://img811.imageshack.us/img811/4892/qg4k.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/811/qg4k.jpg/)
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Here are two Wengers, an 85 and a 65, i bought recently:
(http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y102/mattschwarz/tools/ss855_zps018c1ed0.jpg) (http://s4.photobucket.com/user/mattschwarz/media/tools/ss855_zps018c1ed0.jpg.html)
(http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y102/mattschwarz/tools/ss854_zps4ba2547e.jpg) (http://s4.photobucket.com/user/mattschwarz/media/tools/ss854_zps4ba2547e.jpg.html)
(http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y102/mattschwarz/tools/ss652_zpscc42bbe4.jpg) (http://s4.photobucket.com/user/mattschwarz/media/tools/ss652_zpscc42bbe4.jpg.html)
Nice variants with SS scales. I did not find the model numbers or names in the WIKI.
But I found out that the scales are glued on and that the glue will be dissolved by Swiss Army Weapon Cleaning Oil....
It does a good job of cleaning debris and gummed oil, too btw.
(http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y102/mattschwarz/tools/ss851_zps215526a6.jpg) (http://s4.photobucket.com/user/mattschwarz/media/tools/ss851_zps215526a6.jpg.html)
(http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y102/mattschwarz/tools/ss651_zps632caf85.jpg) (http://s4.photobucket.com/user/mattschwarz/media/tools/ss651_zps632caf85.jpg.html)
I would like to know the model names and what kind of glue you would use to reattach the scales.
Thanks, Guys!
Would it be heresy to put the scales on another Wenger of my liking? (Say my new Minathor, for example) or are the Stainless ones common enough that collectors won´t :twak: me when I do so?
Edit:
Or maybe a Blackout would look hot with those scales, too... :think:
I have no bad feelings modding my stuff. I only hold myself back when I know the item is a rare or collectors item and I can do my mod another way, too.
For example, I´d not tear apart a perfectly fine old clip point / 5 winds corkscrewdriver SAK just to harvest a scissor layer without a backtool.
My first 130mm Wenger. This thing is a beast. :ahhh I'm glad I didn't go with the Ranger 79 though. I think the hump on the OHO would be to uncomfortable when using the saw.
My new wenger
....
Oh, I forgot. Here is a nice Wenger knife to look at.
(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-ILHxbCgARxE/S6gmVsP6phI/AAAAAAAAN7I/JRvN99_nYGQ/s800/Blue%2520Alox%2520Wenger-02.JPG)
Wenger 16483 aka Serrated Cascade.
One was sold recently: http://www.ebay.com/itm/321149316081
Two new Wengers received today:
Wenger Backpacker is what it says on the tin, but it's actually a Pathfinder with the flat Phillips bit on the knife layer :D Classic scales, but with raised "Wenger" text like on Evo scales, and with a bootprint imprinted on the scale
Also, a purple wenger nailclipper
Two new Wengers received today:
Wenger Backpacker is what it says on the tin, but it's actually a Pathfinder with the flat Phillips bit on the knife layer :D Classic scales, but with raised "Wenger" text like on Evo scales, and with a bootprint imprinted on the scale
Also, a purple wenger nailclipper
Sounds interesting. :D Got any pics. ;)
Will try later this evening :tu:
Will try later this evening :tu:
Great. :tu: We might also have to update the wiki then if it's back into production. :D Well for now at least until the merger is complete. ::)
Also the Backpacker 12 model http://www.wenger.ch/backpacker-12-1-012-029-300
So what's the difference between the Backpacker 12 and the Pathfinder? :think: The Backpacker and Backpacker II were totally different. What happened to Backpacker 3 through to 11? :P SAK names can be so confusing at times. Mine is identical with the same boot tread imprint, but on the smooth scales (except for the raised Wenger text)
A vintage Wenger Tahara with solid Stainless steel scales(83.5 mm). A two blade knife, but the small one has been snapped off. just a quick pic, as I'm about a year behind in pictures.
(http://forum.multitool.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=32456.0;attach=53866;image)
A vintage Wenger Tahara with solid Stainless steel scales(83.5 mm). A two blade knife, but the small one has been snapped off. just a quick pic, as I'm about a year behind in pictures.
(http://forum.multitool.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=32456.0;attach=53866;image)
I have a few. I realy like the handyman and its set of tools. I also like my tradesman and my snife. Same quality as vic but slight differences. I like the toothpick and tweezers better on a vic anf I like the added feature of the screwdriver on the vic can opener but do this experiment....
Next time you need a couple of cans open ask someone to open a s fast as they can with the vic then the wenger canopener. Time them with a stopwatch. The wenger wins every time :tool:
When I think of Wenger, I think of these...so to me...they are iconic. Going to have to disagree with you.It's such a genius tool I wish they were still available today as I would still use it. I still can't get over the dissolution of Wenger ... I have to pinch myself daily ::)
The most iconic Wenger to me oddly enough...the Swiss Business Tool. These came in 4 models, starting with the Swiss Business Tool 45, 50, 55, and 60. I managed to get all 4, but it did take some hard searching on my part, and I only got lucky once I started my search on the European Continent.
(http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r207/Chako_photo/SAM_1286small.jpg) (http://s145.photobucket.com/user/Chako_photo/media/SAM_1286small.jpg.html)
(http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r207/Chako_photo/SAM_1285small.jpg) (http://s145.photobucket.com/user/Chako_photo/media/SAM_1285small.jpg.html)
(http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r207/Chako_photo/SAM_1283small.jpg) (http://s145.photobucket.com/user/Chako_photo/media/SAM_1283small.jpg.html)
(http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r207/Chako_photo/SAM_1281small.jpg) (http://s145.photobucket.com/user/Chako_photo/media/SAM_1281small.jpg.html)
(http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r207/Chako_photo/SAM_1278small.jpg) (http://s145.photobucket.com/user/Chako_photo/media/SAM_1278small.jpg.html)
(http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r207/Chako_photo/SAM_1276small.jpg) (http://s145.photobucket.com/user/Chako_photo/media/SAM_1276small.jpg.html)
(http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r207/Chako_photo/SAM_1279small.jpg) (http://s145.photobucket.com/user/Chako_photo/media/SAM_1279small.jpg.html)
It's such a genius tool I wish they were still available today as I would still use it. I still can't get over the dissolution of Wenger ... I have to pinch myself daily ::)I just checked ebay and all models were still available.
I had the black knife in this set for a while, but could not really find out much information on it, I was not even sure who made it, I think it was sold as a Victorinox, but of course it looked for close to some of the previous Wengers we've seen with the imitation tortoise-shell and what appears to be an imitation-horn.
I picked up the extra one last week and one of them has the Tahara stamp like the previous similar ones, so I'm pretty sure these are all infact Wenger knives, or they were made by another cutler and sold by more than one company.
(http://forum.multitool.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=32456.0;attach=51400;image)
Adding one more to the group. This one is in nice shape, but has no emblem on the scales, both sides are clean. Blade is stamped Wenger Tahara, and one side of the main blade (the reverse) has some pretty visible machining marks left even after the high polish.
Finally managed to pick up a Wenger Porsche Cigar Cutter; to round out my set of Wenger Porsches.
Finally managed to pick up a Wenger Porsche Cigar Cutter; to round out my set of Wenger Porsches.
Very nice!
Yes very nice and you found a black one. :tu:Finally managed to pick up a Wenger Porsche Cigar Cutter; to round out my set of Wenger Porsches.
Very nice!
+1 That is a nice group. :tu:
I love the evowood Collection. They have a very nice wood handle.
Did you know, that there will be an Collectors Edition available end of this year ?
It is call United Woods 2013 Limited Edition.
see:
http://www.wenger.ch/united-woods-16993
Special Wenger Commander with inserts and 700 year anniversary markings.
http://sakfan.blogspot.com/2013/07/wenger-commander-700-year-anniversary.html
(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-HvjOl-66Qbk/UehKtzw5qqI/AAAAAAAAhno/M-5qZTYD8sc/s800/Wenger%252520700%252520Year%252520Anniversary-03.JPG)
A snipit of 1970 catalog information from a "Preview Brochure" by Pricise. Some of you must have seen it before because it was the most expensive two pages I ever bought. Of corse there is always those forum lurkers as well.
(http://www.sakwiki.com/show_image.php?id=2896)
(http://www.sakwiki.com/show_image.php?id=2897)
A snipit of 1970 catalog information from a "Preview Brochure" by Pricise. Some of you must have seen it before because it was the most expensive two pages I ever bought. Of corse there is always those forum lurkers as well.
Picked up the Major
(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/07/19/gyhy7uga.jpg)
Picked up the Major
Nice, perhaps you could try to polish a little the main blade.
I think I need to upload on the wiki a picture of model 1.23.03.02 which was basically the black color version of this knife.
I think I need to upload on the wiki a picture of model 1.23.03.02 which was basically the black color version of this knife.
I had few Wenger blades re-polished, by I had the work done professionaly by a shop.
Yeah it's pretty scratched, have any tricks or thoughts on how to remove them.
I had few Wenger blades re-polished, by I had the work done professionaly by a shop.
Yeah it's pretty scratched, have any tricks or thoughts on how to remove them.
Unfortunately I don't have the knowledge to do these kind of jobs, but I'm sure there are here on this forum people who knows how to do it.
Latest Wenger is a Ranger Ap Blaze 50, i already got this in Snow Camo but i could not resist this in Ap Blaze. This is an excellent size (thickness). I can live With that the cutout in the scale for the missing awl. Very well put together!
Thanks.
No daylight so picture is not well, this model do not have a awl but they used the handle scale with the cutout(this is on the 50 models). It is absolutely no problem , the knife is really well put together and the quality just really high.
Picked up the Major
Nice, perhaps you could try to polish a little the main blade.
I think I need to upload on the wiki a picture of model 1.23.03.02 which was basically the black color version of this knife.
Yeah it's pretty scratched, have any tricks or thoughts on how to remove them.
Hi
my Mike Horn and Wenger 120-mm
I love the evowood Collection. They have a very nice wood handle.
Did you know, that there will be an Collectors Edition available end of this year ?
It is call United Woods 2013 Limited Edition.
see:
http://www.wenger.ch/united-woods-16993
Yes we must wait and see, 590 CHF (SwissFrancs) = 477 Euro or 633 USD for the whole set sounds plausible.
You have a good point on the Red handles, they could have done the Swiss Walnut EvoWood for that one.
I guess though this is a celebration of their Swiss Army Knife heritage/legacy so while the wooden handle ones are for their history on 5 different continents I can see it sort of makes sense to include 1 red handled model as well, it's like the base of the tree which grew fruit.
Cache page of the "United Wood" set
http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:gUmFM9REU4QJ:fr.wenger.ch/united-woods-16993+wenger.ch+United+Woods+2013+Limited+Edition+Collectors'+Set+Swiss+Army+Knives&cd=2&hl=it&ct=clnk&gl=it
Yes thanks for info, expencive set and to much for now. I know some wood material may be very expencive and also difficult to make/shape. Just a thought :think:
Anyhow my latest Ranger is a 55 with black scales, it is esthetic and very well put together.
Yes thanks for info, expencive set and to much for now. I know some wood material may be very expencive and also difficult to make/shape. Just a thought :think:
Anyhow my latest Ranger is a 55 with black scales, it is esthetic and very well put together.
And the backsprings on them are very strong. The saw spring also has a bump that "locks" the saw in place when open and makes it much harder to close accidentally on you while using it. :tu: Very good feature.
OK, Wenger lovers need a bit of info.
When did the Wenger corkscrew change?
The older ones were a bit thicker and the turns were different too.
OK, Wenger lovers need a bit of info.
When did the Wenger corkscrew change?
The older ones were a bit thicker and the turns were different too.
Sorry, I don't know when the change was made.
Perhaps North Man could answer.
By the way, I just wished they never replaced the old type "5 turns" corkscrew. It was smaller in diameter, and fitted much better the knife, in my opinion.
Hi
i am sure this date may have variations, so far i have 1979-1980 on the corkscrew change
Hey wenger lovers, i am a big wenger fan by the way, has anyone seen this variation of the alinghi before? I couldnt find it in the wiki by the alinghi name at least.
http://www.swissmade.com/en/shop/image_popup.php?id=5943
It says it was developed for the alpine club but it looks like it would be one early alinghi prototype because of the new ranger blade, scales and safety lock but with the old ranger pliers and small inline phillips and the old alinghi small flat screwdriver. It has a cool engraving on the blade too.
You can get it here (for a pretty high price) http://www.swissmade.com/en/web/index.php?id=1678&s=alpine_club_-_ranger_knife
Hey wenger lovers, i am a big wenger fan by the way, has anyone seen this variation of the alinghi before? I couldnt find it in the wiki by the alinghi name at least.
http://www.swissmade.com/en/shop/image_popup.php?id=5943
It says it was developed for the alpine club but it looks like it would be one early alinghi prototype because of the new ranger blade, scales and safety lock but with the old ranger pliers and small inline phillips and the old alinghi small flat screwdriver. It has a cool engraving on the blade too.
You can get it here (for a pretty high price) http://www.swissmade.com/en/web/index.php?id=1678&s=alpine_club_-_ranger_knife
It's one of a number of special knives Wenger has done for the Swiss Alpine Club (SAC) and the Alpine Club of Switzerland.
Here is a small display case which is the second piece in the "forbidden word" series. I'm guessing this display was put together by the US importer Precise because the knife in the top right is from Japan and has their imprint advertising on the blade.That University of Michigan scale is pretty sweet. You should find a knife for it, unless it's broken.
Wenger limited Woods.I hope it is ok i post this info :tu:
Available aprox at Nov 2013. Number of sets unknown (pic says 0001/2013)?
http://www.mein-taschenmesser.de/wenger/evowood/wenger-united-woods-2013-limited-edition-collectors-set/a-822291/
Greetz
Markus
I hope it is ok i post this info :tu:
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Wenger limited Woods.I hope it is ok i post this info :tu:
Available aprox at Nov 2013. Number of sets unknown (pic says 0001/2013)?
http://www.mein-taschenmesser.de/wenger/evowood/wenger-united-woods-2013-limited-edition-collectors-set/a-822291/
Greetz
Markus
2013 is a very special year for the WENGER brand.
For a start, we are celebrating our 120th birthday.
It is also the last year in which WENGER knives are
being produced. To mark this occasion, we
decided to design a very special and exclusive 2013
sets limited collection that highlights and
impressively demonstrates the innovation and
globality of the WENGER brand.
probarbly it is 2013 pieces made, not sure. My info say they will be available in October.
Wenger limited Woods.I hope it is ok i post this info :tu:
Available aprox at Nov 2013. Number of sets unknown (pic says 0001/2013)?
http://www.mein-taschenmesser.de/wenger/evowood/wenger-united-woods-2013-limited-edition-collectors-set/a-822291/
Greetz
Markus
2013 is a very special year for the WENGER brand.
For a start, we are celebrating our 120th birthday.
It is also the last year in which WENGER knives are
being produced. To mark this occasion, we
decided to design a very special and exclusive 2013
sets limited collection that highlights and
impressively demonstrates the innovation and
globality of the WENGER brand.
probarbly it is 2013 pieces made, not sure. My info say they will be available in October.
Very nice set :tu: but too expensive :rant: !
I think we should find the same (but cheaper) on other websites store in Germany or in Switzerland.
Those are VERY nice. There is a picture of some old Wengers in the SAK-OM book, but I think the timeline one has at least the first two knives on the left in the wrong order. What do you think?
Those are VERY nice. There is a picture of some old Wengers in the SAK-OM book, but I think the timeline one has at least the first two knives on the left in the wrong order. What do you think?If you mean the Evolution of Wengers on page 43: the second one with the weird plastic shield has stainless steel blades so it is likely that the first one, with carbon steel, is older. But yeah, Wenger history, what with the devastating factory fire of 1986, records lost, is hazy at best.
Yes that's the picture I was referring to. I think I have that shield on a knife with carbon blades, black fiber handles, and a very old tool (threaded drill bit), but let me check again as I've been too busy to pay close attention to my SAKs. What is the length of the knife in the picture?Those are VERY nice. There is a picture of some old Wengers in the SAK-OM book, but I think the timeline one has at least the first two knives on the left in the wrong order. What do you think?If you mean the Evolution of Wengers on page 43: the second one with the weird plastic shield has stainless steel blades so it is likely that the first one, with carbon steel, is older. But yeah, Wenger history, what with the devastating factory fire of 1986, records lost, is hazy at best.
Yes that's the picture I was referring to. I think I have that shield on a knife with carbon blades, black fiber handles, and a very old tool (threaded drill bit), but let me check again as I've been too busy to pay close attention to my SAKs. What is the length of the knife in the picture?Those are VERY nice. There is a picture of some old Wengers in the SAK-OM book, but I think the timeline one has at least the first two knives on the left in the wrong order. What do you think?If you mean the Evolution of Wengers on page 43: the second one with the weird plastic shield has stainless steel blades so it is likely that the first one, with carbon steel, is older. But yeah, Wenger history, what with the devastating factory fire of 1986, records lost, is hazy at best.
Does anyone know the name of the tool that looks like a course threaded drill bit? It's quite common on very old pocket knives from other manufacturers, but I don't have a name for it.
Thanks for the information. I don't think there can be any copyright left on a published work over 100 years old, let alone a catalog from that date. If it is a more recent reprint of the catalog contained in another publication what is the name of that publication?
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Mr Young says that the first knife in the page 43 photo is without doubt carbon steel with carbon steel liners and divider, and the second one stainless with nickle-silver liners and divider, and that the first one (tang stamp Wenger Delemont) measures just over 92 mm, the second one (tang stamp Wenger Tahara) 82 mm.
Wenger has said they made a model 112 with stainless steel starting in 1919. Is there any documentation of an earlier date for stainless steel by Wenger (or by Victorinox)? Victorinox has given their date as both 1921 and 1923.
Would love to see the "insect in an oval" Wenger tang stamp !
...... Would love to see the "insect in an oval" Wenger tang stamp !I think you misread my post. The tang on mine "has WENGER DELMONT with 3 faces logo on both the small and large blades".
To just agree with both Francis and Chako, I would consider it an iconic failure. :)
While you all probably know how much I'm in love with the Wenger brand, I must admit that they failed really hard on this.
Don't really know what they were thinking while developing this tool.
Chances that a businessman would need a mutitool on his desk are close to none, in my opinion.
Maybe this has been asked and answered before, but does anyone if Wenger will do a final run of the Standard Issue knife?
(http://forum.multitool.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=42565.0;attach=56191;image)
(http://forum.multitool.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=42565.0;attach=56191;image):D :D
(http://forum.multitool.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=42565.0;attach=56191;image)
Surprised your pants aren't down around your knees. :o
At least you've proven the Giant IS pocketable. :tu:
Wenger limited Woods.
Available aprox at Nov 2013. Number of sets unknown (pic says 0001/2013)?
http://www.mein-taschenmesser.de/wenger/evowood/wenger-united-woods-2013-limited-edition-collectors-set/a-822291/
Greetz
Markus
Wenger limited Woods.
Available aprox at Nov 2013. Number of sets unknown (pic says 0001/2013)?
http://www.mein-taschenmesser.de/wenger/evowood/wenger-united-woods-2013-limited-edition-collectors-set/a-822291/
Greetz
Markus
Cant read German, anyone knows if they ship internationally? Overseas?
Wenger limited Woods.
Available aprox at Nov 2013. Number of sets unknown (pic says 0001/2013)?
http://www.mein-taschenmesser.de/wenger/evowood/wenger-united-woods-2013-limited-edition-collectors-set/a-822291/
Greetz
Markus
Cant read German, anyone knows if they ship internationally? Overseas?
Only to EU countries, but you could ask them. The owner joined here 2 months ago to tell us about them so he must speak English too. ;)
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My knife,carbon steel, with the red shield/white cross inlay has WENGER DELMONT with 3 faces logo on both the small and large blades which are in separate layers; both pivot at the top of the knife. It has an interesting imprint on the bottom scale of some insect in an oval, hard to see now.
It's interesting that Wenger's 100 year anniversary book does not mention this shield.
Pictures when I have more time.
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My knife,carbon steel, with the red shield/white cross inlay has WENGER DELMONT with 3 faces logo on both the small and large blades which are in separate layers; both pivot at the top of the knife. It has an interesting imprint on the bottom scale of some insect in an oval, hard to see now.
It's interesting that Wenger's 100 year anniversary book does not mention this shield.
Pictures when I have more time.
Three quick pictures of this interesting knife. I'm guessing this model would fall into their early Farmer/Peasant line.
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My knife,carbon steel, with the red shield/white cross inlay has WENGER DELMONT with 3 faces logo on both the small and large blades which are in separate layers; both pivot at the top of the knife. It has an interesting imprint on the bottom scale of some insect in an oval, hard to see now.
It's interesting that Wenger's 100 year anniversary book does not mention this shield.
Pictures when I have more time.
Three quick pictures of this interesting knife. I'm guessing this model would fall into their early Farmer/Peasant line.
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My knife,carbon steel, with the red shield/white cross inlay has WENGER DELMONT with 3 faces logo on both the small and large blades which are in separate layers; both pivot at the top of the knife. It has an interesting imprint on the bottom scale of some insect in an oval, hard to see now.
It's interesting that Wenger's 100 year anniversary book does not mention this shield.
Pictures when I have more time.
Three quick pictures of this interesting knife. I'm guessing this model would fall into their early Farmer/Peasant line.
(http://forum.multitool.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=32456.0;attach=56211;image)
Sweet score Enki^-^
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My knife,carbon steel, with the red shield/white cross inlay has WENGER DELMONT with 3 faces logo on both the small and large blades which are in separate layers; both pivot at the top of the knife. It has an interesting imprint on the bottom scale of some insect in an oval, hard to see now.
It's interesting that Wenger's 100 year anniversary book does not mention this shield.
Pictures when I have more time.
Three quick pictures of this interesting knife. I'm guessing this model would fall into their early Farmer/Peasant line.
Waoooooooo ! Very Nice !
For the "threaded drill bit", I don't know the english word but in french it's a "vrille", it was used to make a small hole in the very hard wood before putting a screw, to facilitate the wiring accession.
Are the handles in black fibers ?
Sweet score Enki^-^
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You mean. ICFT. ;) I just quoted Francis, it's his SAK. :D
Waoooooooo ! Very Nice !
For the "threaded drill bit", I don't know the english word but in french it's a "vrille", it was used to make a small hole in the very hard wood before putting a screw, to facilitate the wiring accession.
Are the handles in black fibers ?
Thanks, that makes sense; the English word would be Auger, and explains why on some old knives it's designed more like a drill-bit than a course screw thread.
Yes the handles applear to be a black fiber.
After the heavy use this knife has seen the saw layer still snaps shut with a nice sound. The other layers need some cleaning, but I want to be careful because of the old scales. None of the tools are broken which I think is amazing. Take a look at the size of that nail nick on the main blade.
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My knife,carbon steel, with the red shield/white cross inlay has WENGER DELMONT with 3 faces logo on both the small and large blades which are in separate layers; both pivot at the top of the knife. It has an interesting imprint on the bottom scale of some insect in an oval, hard to see now.
It's interesting that Wenger's 100 year anniversary book does not mention this shield.
Pictures when I have more time.
Three quick pictures of this interesting knife. I'm guessing this model would fall into their early Farmer/Peasant line.
QuoteThanks, that makes sense; the English word would be Auger, and explains why on some old knives it's designed more like a drill-bit than a course screw thread.
Yes the handles applear to be a black fiber.
After the heavy use this knife has seen the saw layer still snaps shut with a nice sound. The other layers need some cleaning, but I want to be careful because of the old scales. None of the tools are broken which I think is amazing. Take a look at the size of that nail nick on the main blade.
When I find an old knife like yours, I send it in a small workshop near the Swiss border, there is a craftsman who fully dismounts it, exchange broken parts, put new handles, etc.
At the end, the knife is like a new one with genine parts or redo parts as guenine.
For example, he repaired me an old Victorinox 234k model (1942's) and he gaves me all photos step by step (here only 3 photos, just to see what he's able to do) :
(http://i79.servimg.com/u/f79/17/57/54/47/110.jpg)
(http://i79.servimg.com/u/f79/17/57/54/47/310.jpg)
(http://i79.servimg.com/u/f79/17/57/54/47/610.jpg)
QuoteThanks, that makes sense; the English word would be Auger, and explains why on some old knives it's designed more like a drill-bit than a course screw thread.
Yes the handles applear to be a black fiber.
After the heavy use this knife has seen the saw layer still snaps shut with a nice sound. The other layers need some cleaning, but I want to be careful because of the old scales. None of the tools are broken which I think is amazing. Take a look at the size of that nail nick on the main blade.
When I find an old knife like yours, I send it in a small workshop near the Swiss border, there is a craftsman who fully dismounts it, exchange broken parts, put new handles, etc.
At the end, the knife is like a new one with genine parts or redo parts as guenine.
For example, he repaired me an old Victorinox 234k model (1942's) and he gaves me all photos step by step (here only 3 photos, just to see what he's able to do) :
<Image-2> (http://i79.servimg.com/u/f79/17/57/54/47/110.jpg)
<image-2> (http://i79.servimg.com/u/f79/17/57/54/47/310.jpg)
<Image-3> (http://i79.servimg.com/u/f79/17/57/54/47/610.jpg)
That is a beautiful piece of restoration. :tu:
Thanks :cheers:
If anyone knows if the box and model number can match this 100 Years Anniversary '90 SI, please let me know.
With it I got a '81 Soldat which upon closest inspection appears unused :)
(http://forum.multitool.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=21658.0;attach=56468;image)
(http://forum.multitool.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=21658.0;attach=56470;image)
Here is a Sporty Wenger with the shoe spike tool, European number 1 92 30.
(http://forum.multitool.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=32456.0;attach=56692;image)
Nice, they don't show up so often!
There is also a model which adds the scissors (1 92 31), will try to post a picture.
Nice, they don't show up so often!
There is also a model which adds the scissors (1 92 31), will try to post a picture.
Sorry for the delay.
here is, I think, the complete set "Footballeur/Soccer"
First picture is model 1 92 32
Second is model 1 92 30 (same model as shown by North Man)
Last picture is model 1 92 31 (which adds scissors)
I was planning to add them to the wiki anyway.
(http://forum.multitool.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=32456.0;attach=56940;image)
One of Wenger knives I prefer : the soldier 1951 model...This one is in my wish list. Nice one. Congrats
(http://www.couteaux-du-soldat-suisse.ch/J02/media/com_hikashop/upload/r1239-1.jpg)
(http://www.couteaux-du-soldat-suisse.ch/J02/media/com_hikashop/upload/r1239-2.jpg)
(http://www.couteaux-du-soldat-suisse.ch/J02/media/com_hikashop/upload/r1239-3.jpg) (http://www.couteaux-du-soldat-suisse.ch/J02/media/com_hikashop/upload/r1239-4.jpg)
Nice, they don't show up so often!
There is also a model which adds the scissors (1 92 31), will try to post a picture.
Sorry for the delay.
here is, I think, the complete set "Footballeur/Soccer"
First picture is model 1 92 32
Second is model 1 92 30 (same model as shown by North Man)
Last picture is model 1 92 31 (which adds scissors)
I was planning to add them to the wiki anyway.
(http://forum.multitool.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=32456.0;attach=56940;image)
Very nice set. :tu: Will you be adding separate pages or combining them all under the Soccer page listed as different models? Do they have different names or are they all sold as Soccer but with different model numbers?
Nice, they don't show up so often!
There is also a model which adds the scissors (1 92 31), will try to post a picture.
Sorry for the delay.
here is, I think, the complete set "Footballeur/Soccer"
First picture is model 1 92 32
Second is model 1 92 30 (same model as shown by North Man)
Last picture is model 1 92 31 (which adds scissors)
I was planning to add them to the wiki anyway.
http://forum.multitool.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=32456.0;attach=56940;image
Very nice set. :tu: Will you be adding separate pages or combining them all under the Soccer page listed as different models? Do they have different names or are they all sold as Soccer but with different model numbers?
Nice collection. Separate pages on the wiki. We'll have to distinguish them with their model number I think for now. We have a similar issue with the Shredder, and the Biker as well, so maybe this is very common for the entire sports series. Maybe use the last segment of the model number for disambiguation like Wenger started doing in recent years (E.g. Soccer 30, Soccer 31 etc.).
I'll check later if you've uploaded them.
Yes, I think too that it would be better to list them in the index, but have them all displayed under the "soccer" page.
Perhaps adding the "Footballer" name near the word "soccer", as the "soccer" word is really used only in the USA.
This is something I had been thinking about.
Despite, for example, the time I spent creating the 1.23.13 page
http://www.sakwiki.com/ti...x.php?page=Wenger+1.23.13 (http://www.sakwiki.com/tiki-index.php?page=Wenger+1.23.13)
I think it would also be better to show this variant only in the "Major" page.
If we were going to create single pages for all the Wenger models which, for example, replace the nail file with a small blade or corkscrew with phillips, there would probably be too many pages, and the wiki could be too confusing.
What do you think?
P.S. Uploading the pictures in the wiki now.
Looks either good to me enki!
However, I would be careful about using the word "soccer" as the original name for the serie was "footballeur", at least for the 1 92 30 and 1 92 31 models (and I'm not sure if these models were ever sold outside Europe).
Looks either good to me enki!
However, I would be careful about using the word "soccer" as the original name for the serie was "footballeur", at least for the 1 92 30 and 1 92 31 models (and I'm not sure if these models were ever sold outside Europe).
They were at least sold in Japan, as I get a lot of hits on Japanese sites and Amazon.co.jp if I google "wenger 19230". I agree we should come to a consensus of how to call them before creating the pages. Footballeur sounds good to me, maybe with a side reference "also known as Soccer"
We'd need to change the existing Soccer page title then too to Footballeur 32.
I like using the footballer name, and soccer can be a see reference and a note in the main description about Canada and Usa naming.
Separate pages; these are very different and taking about knives when more than on configure on a page is very confusing. It's easy to link the pages and it can be done in more than 1 place if needed like right in the main description with some text. We can look at it again in the future when we have it more complete as it will no longer be expanding.
Can't use soccer series or footballer series as these are not official they have sports series Swiss rider series and other official ones. Can word the descption and just say a series of knives.
Looks good i think this does help show the big picture. The manual entries can be edited out of the images and replaced with new type font ones maybe in a different color to show they are additions.
I think though an interactive page like this that links to the catalog pages would be nice.
I have a new NA 92-95 catalog i will try to scan and send you. Maybe you can help pin point the date better, but us releases don't always correspond with swiss releases, although with wenger they seem much closer than with vic.
If existing dates i have are accurate then it would be 92/93, but could be later.
I double checked all my edits and they seems correct.
Added a SwissGrip catalog page (http://www.sakwiki.com/show_image.php?id=2970) to the wiki.Interesting, thanks!
Wenger certainly received some love from me today. I carried a Wenger mountaineer, had a Wenger wallet on me, wore a Wenger belt, and ordered a Wenger water bottle. I just can't pass up anything that says Wenger. :D
New wood scales for an EVO 14 limited edition designed with more of the French side of Swiss Army knives. Cool Wenger Shield design inside of the "O". The small letters are Suisse inside of the bar at top of knife.
http://sakfan.blogspot.com/2013/09/wenger-wood-evo-14-jura-loriginal.html
(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-f44A9CUjRm0/UjNySI1ecuI/AAAAAAAAi8Q/hwcJcszIXH0/s800/Wenger%252520Jura%252520Traveler-03.JPG)
Wenger's United Woods Serie flyer.... in germanThe last paragraph of the flyer is a touching epigraph for Wenger.
http://swissknives.info/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/United-Woods.pdf
Why is a Wenger Minathor 702 so expensive? Anyone owns one?The 700 series (Club Series) comes with octagonal scales of steel with leather inserts, leather pouch, & presentation box.
I just spotted this on ebayThat is sweet! :drool:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Wenger-1-77-86-822-RangerGrip-Series-Knives-Swiss-Army-Folding-Knife-/281161619184?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item417689d6f0
The RangerGrip 86 is extremely difficult (I would say impossible) to find outside Russia
I just got an evogrip s18
I just traded off my red evo 18. I am going to try replace it with a evo s16 .The lock is in the way a little bit but if you want the lock I think it is worth it.
I like the lock.
Attention Wenger collectors!
I listed for sale on EDC Source all of my Wenger duplicates (around 15) plus few Victorinox.
All the Wenger's are discontinued, and some are very difficult to find.
You can see a gallery of all my duplicates here
https://picasaweb.google....JqoKA&feat=directlink (https://picasaweb.google.com/carlomoreschi/Sell_duplicates?authuser=0&authkey=Gv1sRgCJyg9I6g0JqoKA&feat=directlink)
This one isn't the smallest one with a magnifying glass[/url] if you're thinking the number of layers.
I've been calling this one (http://www.edcsource.com/Wenger-model-11753-Forester-variation,name,116588,auction_id,auction_details) Securité 17 but maybe I'm wrong here on the naming. :shrug: It was what I found when searching for it a few years ago.The duplicate I have for sale does have the locking bottle opener.
Mine doesn't have a locking bottle opener. Is it the same on yours?
...I've been calling this one (http://www.edcsource.com/Wenger-model-11753-Forester-variation,name,116588,auction_id,auction_details) Securité 17 but maybe I'm wrong here on the naming. :shrug: It was what I found when searching for it a few years ago.The duplicate I have for sale does have the locking bottle opener.
Mine doesn't have a locking bottle opener. Is it the same on yours?
However the blade is the old style, marked only on one side.
Will check with the other example I have.
As for the name, I believe the Security 17 or Securité 17 name could had been added later, along with the S 17 designation.
I will check with the catalogs I have, but the name you are referring to could be for the newest versions, with the WENGER name embossed on the scale.
Not sure, however.
When I got my evogrip s18 I said the lock was really uncomfortable and in the way. I changed my mind now. I just had to adjust to holding the knife where my fingers do not touch the lock. I am still really glad I got the locking version.
...I've been calling this one (http://www.edcsource.com/Wenger-model-11753-Forester-variation,name,116588,auction_id,auction_details) Securité 17 but maybe I'm wrong here on the naming. :shrug: It was what I found when searching for it a few years ago.The duplicate I have for sale does have the locking bottle opener.
Mine doesn't have a locking bottle opener. Is it the same on yours?
However the blade is the old style, marked only on one side.
Will check with the other example I have.
As for the name, I believe the Security 17 or Securité 17 name could had been added later, along with the S 17 designation.
I will check with the catalogs I have, but the name you are referring to could be for the newest versions, with the WENGER name embossed on the scale.
Not sure, however.
Mine's definitely an old one, '84 I think. The tang is stamped one side only with Wenger (crossbow)/Delémont/Switzerland/Stainless, and the nail file is facing inside. The reamer and corkscrew backsprings aren't flush, but the scissors and saw backsprings are. I got the name from an old SOSAK article.
1979 Packlock, worlds first SAK with locking blade
1980 Precise mention new model with Packlock and now 6 models available with this feature.
1981 Viceroy model and interlock system or locking is mentioned, may be older
1982 Earliest Patent application I have found on flat screwdriver with cap opener and the push locking system, inventor Theubet Michel, so 1984 may be correct.
That would mean there are at least 3 variations of the locking Forester as mine is a pre 1984. As per info provided by North Man in the Wenger Time Windows and much text thread (http://forum.multitool.org/index.php/topic,37957.msg609810.html#msg609810)Quote1979 Packlock, worlds first SAK with locking blade
1980 Precise mention new model with Packlock and now 6 models available with this feature.
1981 Viceroy model and interlock system or locking is mentioned, may be older
1982 Earliest Patent application I have found on flat screwdriver with cap opener and the push locking system, inventor Theubet Michel, so 1984 may be correct.
So as the locking bottle opener was introduced around 1983-84 and mine doesn't have it, it must be an earlier model than the one in the 1995 catalog. North Man said in another thread that it would probably be 1984 (http://forum.multitool.org/index.php/topic,42953.msg689857.html#msg689857). Not sure if it would have a different model number or what it is as I bought it used without box from Reinier a few years ago.
EDIT:
I just found the paypal info and he named it Wenger Security 17 in his auction.
Also, Wenger Security 17 is the name North Man uses for his Scouts model (http://forum.multitool.org/index.php/topic,18801.msg355594.html#msg355594) number 1 17 91 and also refers to the same SOSAK page I mentioned earlier.
Wenger Zino Platinum from ColoSwiss
Loving Wenger right now!¡!
Sent from Endor via an Ewok
Very nice!
Some months ago a seller on ebay was offering a bunch of them and I bought one too.
[/b]The metal scales are beautiful![/b]
I think I also have a cigar Wenger with the "Zino" markings on the tools, but standard black scales.
Will try to post a picture.
I don't think the scales are metal :think: At least not mine. Did you get THIS ONE (http://www.sakwiki.com/tiki-browse_image.php?galleryId=31&imageId=475)?
Also, I couldn't find mine in the SAK Wiki :think: Anyone know why?
I don't think the scales are metal :think: At least not mine. Did you get THIS ONE (http://www.sakwiki.com/tiki-browse_image.php?galleryId=31&imageId=475)?
Also, I couldn't find mine in the SAK Wiki :think: Anyone know why?
Nope, I have the exact same model as yours.
I am at work now and will check later.
Perhaps I'm wrong, but I remember the scales to be made in metal.
Will check later.
This model is not yet on the wiki.
Unfortunately I don't have much informations about it. Perhaps other members know more
It seems as the website is currently not available...I can't access the website www.sac-cas.ch (http://www.sac-cas.ch) at all. :rant: Try later... ;)
Weber's World have both SAC woods
http://www.webers-world.com/product_info.php?info=p530_EvoWood-35-SAC.html
http://www.webers-world.com/product_info.php?info=p531_RangerWood-161-SAC.html
however the Rangerwood does NOT have the engraving on the blade, for some reason that was only available from the SAC website.
Thanks!
It looks great :tu:
Went ahead and contacted directly the Schweizer Alpen-Club SAC.
They just confirmed me that there were 200 Rangerwood 161 knives made with the 150 years logo.
Could a wiki administrator (enki???) please add a new page under the "Wenger 130mm" menu, in the "RangerWood Models" section, with the name "RangerWood 161"?
I think I could then start working to add the two models.Thanks!
It looks great :tu:
Could a wiki administrator (enki???) please add a new page under the "Wenger 130mm" menu, in the "RangerWood Models" section, with the name "RangerWood 161"?
Could a wiki administrator (enki???) please add a new page under the "Wenger 130mm" menu, in the "RangerWood Models" section, with the name "RangerWood 161"?
I created the requested page and linked it in the alphabetical and 2 layer index. I also added some basic info and the picture from below as placeholders so you can edit the page easier.
http://www.sakwiki.com/tiki-index.php?page=Wenger+RangerWood+161
BTW, I'm not an administrator on the wiki, just a regular user. Any user can create/edit wiki pages, but only an administrator can move or rename them. I usually start from the index page for that size, add the model and save the page. Then you get a ? mark next to the page name. If you click it, it will lead you to the blank page for that model and you can start making an entry. I usually copy the content of a similar SAK and edit out or add the necessary info.
Glad to see you back, North Man. :cheers: I was getting worried. :D
I created the requested page and linked it in the alphabetical and 2 layer index. I also added some basic info and the picture from below as placeholders so you can edit the page easier.
http://www.sakwiki.com/tiki-index.php?page=Wenger+RangerWood+161
I created the requested page and linked it in the alphabetical and 2 layer index. I also added some basic info and the picture from below as placeholders so you can edit the page easier.
http://www.sakwiki.com/tiki-index.php?page=Wenger+RangerWood+161
I uploaded some pictures and made small edits to the page.
Now it should be (hopefully) very easy to see all the differences between the RangerWood 161 and the RangerWood 161.P1.CAS
Seems that the only limited run was for the 150th years anniversary model.
I remember 200 units from the SAC website, but I'm not 100% sure.
What I'm sure is that the production number of the limited series was actually written somewhere on the SAC website.
Does anybody have an idea if the Wenger "Urban Survivor" was sold with this name anywhere else outside Canada?
The only reference I saw was in the catalog on the wiki
http://www.sakwiki.com/tiki-browse_gallery.php?galleryId=72
where is mentioned here
http://www.sakwiki.com/tiki-browse_image.php?galleryId=72&sort_mode=imageId_asc&imageId=1283&scalesize=0
and here
http://www.sakwiki.com/tiki-browse_image.php?galleryId=72&sort_mode=imageId_asc&imageId=1290&scalesize=o
The "Urban Survivor" is actually the "Matterhorn" (same catalog number)
http://www.sakwiki.com/tiki-index.php?page=Matterhorn
I think we could just leave the name on the wiki 85mm index and link it to the Matterhorn page.
Urban Survivor ? Are you sure that exists? I can only find the record of it on smartknives, and he lists it with description and identifier of a Matterhorn, and lists a Matterhorn as the same but with pliers and #16694 which I think is the identifier of a Business Tool Model 55 Black.
Another with Backpacker icon (pad print type) This is a euro 1 13 23 and could be a 1990 knife. Toothpick and tweezer. In the French catalogue this is under Sports. I love the Wengers with icons on.
Does anybody have an idea if the Wenger "Urban Survivor" was sold with this name anywhere else outside Canada?
The only reference I saw was in the catalog on the wiki
http://www.sakwiki.com/tiki-browse_gallery.php?galleryId=72
where is mentioned here
http://www.sakwiki.com/tiki-browse_image.php?galleryId=72&sort_mode=imageId_asc&imageId=1283&scalesize=0
and here
http://www.sakwiki.com/tiki-browse_image.php?galleryId=72&sort_mode=imageId_asc&imageId=1290&scalesize=o
The "Urban Survivor" is actually the "Matterhorn" (same catalog number)
http://www.sakwiki.com/tiki-index.php?page=Matterhorn
I think we could just leave the name on the wiki 85mm index and link it to the Matterhorn page.
Nice find on the Urban Survivor catalog reference. :cheers: So it's actually just a canadian name for the Matterhorn. I actually PM-d Francis about it about a month ago as he created that page.QuoteUrban Survivor ? Are you sure that exists? I can only find the record of it on smartknives, and he lists it with description and identifier of a Matterhorn, and lists a Matterhorn as the same but with pliers and #16694 which I think is the identifier of a Business Tool Model 55 Black.
So it does exist. :D Just that the smartknives page is wrong about it.
I think we could just do as you suggest, leave the name but not link it to that empty page. Instead add a "see Matterhorn" and add it under Variations as a Canadian model name with a link to the catalog page.
I recently located this knife. I believe it is an older viking model. It has the usual can opener, bottle opener, awl and corkscrew along with a locking main blade, clip point small blade and chain. It's in very usable condition - the blades are perfect however some use marks.
I'd never seen that kind of lock and the clip point was interesting.
John.
So what's the difference between the Backpacker 12 and the Pathfinder? :think: The Backpacker and Backpacker II were totally different. What happened to Backpacker 3 through to 11? :P SAK names can be so confusing at times. Mine is identical with the same boot tread imprint, but on the smooth scales (except for the raised Wenger text)
Same knife, different names.
Looking at the catalogs, the last reference I found of the Backpacker/Pathfinder with plain scales is from 2008 (top knife in the following picture).
Fisrt reference of the model with the Evo scales is from a 2009 catalog (bottom knife in picture).
Note the small difference (the "3") in the catalog number
(http://img69.imageshack.us/img69/6638/cbme.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/69/cbme.jpg/)
Anyone know why Evowood 16 is not available in Europe? It seems nuts that to get a knife made one country away I have to ship it at great expense from the other side of the Atlantic.
(I noticed none of the Philips head Evowoods are available here. As if us Europeans are so busy drinking wine we're incapable of screwing.)
My last wenger
(http://i1077.photobucket.com/albums/w472/derekmachfx/Knives/null_zps167a5ea3.jpg) (http://s1077.photobucket.com/user/derekmachfx/media/Knives/null_zps167a5ea3.jpg.html)
This is something interesting I found.
A version of model 1.30.03 with the older style compass.
I had one from the 1990 time period, but with the standard "third generation compass", as I call it.
A later version of this knife is listed on the wiki as Classic 30
http://www.sakwiki.com/tiki-index.php?page=Wenger+Classic+30
Since I had two similar models to compare, I realized something I didn't know.
Not only the old compass is different, but the whole plastic orienteering tool is much thinner.
You can see the difference in the pictures attached.
Sorry for the poor quality of the pictures, but the light was terrible.
I will take more for the wiki.
Interesting find, so a layer with the liner in the middle of it. :o Do you have a time frame for that model?
It does not look like it got the W stamping on the blade(backside) and it looks like the short can opener, if so i would believe it to be a early Compass, at first i did wonder if the Compass is genuine. But since it also got a totaly different orienting tool all together, it should be genuine. I can not remember having seen this before. Not 100% on time frame , if short can opener and no W it may be mid 80s.
It does not look like it got the W stamping on the blade(backside) and it looks like the short can opener, if so i would believe it to be a early Compass, at first i did wonder if the Compass is genuine. But since it also got a totaly different orienting tool all together, it should be genuine. I can not remember having seen this before. Not 100% on time frame , if short can opener and no W it may be mid 80s.
Thanks North Man.
I'm sure the compass is genuine, as I saw it (only the compass) in a shop with other Wenger replacement parts and the shop owner remembered about these old models.
There is also a picture of the same knife (but with longer key chain) in the stressmaster5000 blog.
http://sakfan.blogspot.it/2011/08/wenger-swiss-army-knife-european-north.html
Do you agree with me that the compass with the black background as shown in your images of the Pathfinder model here
was introduced at a later time? Does the timeframe match?
Edit: I'm attaching two close up pictures of the older compass, so it can be seen better
I do appreciate Wenger’s focus on the great outdoors. Victorinox is focusing right now on fashion luggage and handbags. :td:
I understand that Wenger and Vic are taking separate marketing approaches so as to appeal to a wider audience (and not step on each other’s toes), but hopefully we’ll see a more well-rounded approach as Vic takes in Wenger. And maybe we'll see a blending of their sak philosophies. We could get the best of both worlds.
To add to the Wenger love, Wenger had exactly what I needed for my kid’s first sak.
(http://i1199.photobucket.com/albums/aa466/sx975/009_zpsb81fed26.jpg)
It does not look like it got the W stamping on the blade(backside) and it looks like the short can opener, if so i would believe it to be a early Compass, at first i did wonder if the Compass is genuine. But since it also got a totaly different orienting tool all together, it should be genuine. I can not remember having seen this before. Not 100% on time frame , if short can opener and no W it may be mid 80s.
Thanks North Man.
I'm sure the compass is genuine, as I saw it (only the compass) in a shop with other Wenger replacement parts and the shop owner remembered about these old models.
There is also a picture of the same knife (but with longer key chain) in the stressmaster5000 blog.
http://sakfan.blogspot.it/2011/08/wenger-swiss-army-knife-european-north.html
Do you agree with me that the compass with the black background as shown in your images of the Pathfinder model here
was introduced at a later time? Does the timeframe match?
Edit: I'm attaching two close up pictures of the older compass, so it can be seen better
Sure it is a genuine Compass, and should be before the one on the Pathfinder :) I can only say based on the general shape all together into a 5 year period. I did find a key date 1988 on some changes that is important before, but i can not say for sure.
Does any body know where I could buy scales for Wenger 130mm (Rangers) and 85mm (classic and Evo) ?
Interesting find, so a layer with the liner in the middle of it. :o Do you have a time frame for that model?
Yes, I think the layer with the middle liner is pretty standard...I have seen this configuration for all the orienteering tools, apart from the older ones with the "first generation" compass, like the one shown above.
As for the time frame, I don't know.
North Man?
Thanks!
There are some differences in the tang stamps if one use a magnifying glass. Most of them are just how deep the words look and width of the lines if one can say. Just interesting to see, did not get any smarter by it :) Then there are the blade shape.
About the stamps and letters i will see later, i must collect more of them.
Many ideas in the head, it would be fun one day to use Wenger knives related to Mountains and Sport, then put in pictures of postcards of these mountains + sports. And also some letters With stamps and so on. The SAK and tourism and the list goes on :tu:
I don't remember either..... for sure the company website logo on the front scale is not common.I've done more searching, and have come up with nothing. To me, that makes my $3 Evogrip a little more special.
Perhaps other members will know more.
Interesting find, so a layer with the liner in the middle of it. :o Do you have a time frame for that model?
Yes, I think the layer with the middle liner is pretty standard...I have seen this configuration for all the orienteering tools, apart from the older ones with the "first generation" compass, like the one shown above.
As for the time frame, I don't know.
North Man?
Enki,
need to apologize, I was wrong!
The latest version of the orienteering tool does not have the middle liner!
I created a set of pictures to show the orienteering tool/compass evolution.
In every picture from left (older) to right (newer)
(http://forum.multitool.org/swiss-forum/any-love-for-wenger/?action=dlattach;attach=86228;image)
(http://forum.multitool.org/swiss-forum/any-love-for-wenger/?action=dlattach;attach=86230;image)
(http://forum.multitool.org/swiss-forum/any-love-for-wenger/?action=dlattach;attach=86232;image)
Thanks!
There are some differences in the tang stamps if one use a magnifying glass. Most of them are just how deep the words look and width of the lines if one can say. Just interesting to see, did not get any smarter by it :) Then there are the blade shape.
About the stamps and letters i will see later, i must collect more of them.
Many ideas in the head, it would be fun one day to use Wenger knives related to Mountains and Sport, then put in pictures of postcards of these mountains + sports. And also some letters With stamps and so on. The SAK and tourism and the list goes on :tu:
North Man,
here are the only two old models I have.
I took pictures of the tang markings, so you could try to compare.
I think this model is basically the 1.25.03
Too bad that the main blade was sharpened too much!!!!
Very interesting !
I think :
- The 1st is late 1985 or early 1986
- The 2nd is 1896
- The 3rd, is between 1987 and 1991
- The 4th, is since 1992
This is based on various observations and cross made from catalogs, advertisements, books, personal supositions and knives of my collection. But of course it lacks precision and formal proofs !
Could be around these dates yes :tu:
It had to be a model with the magnifying glass :) The 64 can opener is in patents. Please how are the scales attached?
Interesting find, so a layer with the liner in the middle of it. :o Do you have a time frame for that model?
Yes, I think the layer with the middle liner is pretty standard...I have seen this configuration for all the orienteering tools, apart from the older ones with the "first generation" compass, like the one shown above.
As for the time frame, I don't know.
North Man?
Enki,
need to apologize, I was wrong!
The latest version of the orienteering tool does not have the middle liner!
I created a set of pictures to show the orienteering tool/compass evolution.
In every picture from left (older) to right (newer)
Very interesting !
I think :
- The 1st is late 1985 or early 1986
- The 2nd is 1896
- The 3rd, is between 1987 and 1991
- The 4th, is since 1992
This is based on various observations and cross made from catalogs, advertisements, books, personal supositions and knives of my collection. But of course it lacks precision and formal proofs !
It had to be a model with the magnifying glass :) The 64 can opener is in patents. Please how are the scales attached?
Will take a look this evening, as I'm not home at the moment.
Would I need to put off the scales, or could a picture from the inside of the knife be fine?
Interesting find, so a layer with the liner in the middle of it. :o Do you have a time frame for that model?
Yes, I think the layer with the middle liner is pretty standard...I have seen this configuration for all the orienteering tools, apart from the older ones with the "first generation" compass, like the one shown above.
As for the time frame, I don't know.
North Man?
Enki,
need to apologize, I was wrong!
The latest version of the orienteering tool does not have the middle liner!
I created a set of pictures to show the orienteering tool/compass evolution.
In every picture from left (older) to right (newer)
Very interesting !
I think :
- The 1st is late 1985 or early 1986
- The 2nd is 1896
- The 3rd, is between 1987 and 1991
- The 4th, is since 1992
This is based on various observations and cross made from catalogs, advertisements, books, personal supositions and knives of my collection. But of course it lacks precision and formal proofs !
Good pictures. Would be best to update the Orienteering Tool page with them. :salute: I'll let you have the honors. :D
http://www.sakwiki.com/ti...hp?page=Orienteering+Tool (http://www.sakwiki.com/tiki-index.php?page=Orienteering+Tool)
http://www.sakwiki.com/ti...galleryId=66&offset=0 (http://www.sakwiki.com/tiki-browse_gallery.php?galleryId=66&offset=0)
I love also old Wengers !
It had to be a model with the magnifying glass :) The 64 can opener is in patents. Please how are the scales attached?
Will take a look this evening, as I'm not home at the moment.
Would I need to put off the scales, or could a picture from the inside of the knife be fine?
No, do not take of the scales, just see inside the aluminium liner inside the body of the knife
Good pictures. Would be best to update the Orienteering Tool page with them. :salute: I'll let you have the honors. :D
http://www.sakwiki.com/ti...hp?page=Orienteering+Tool (http://www.sakwiki.com/tiki-index.php?page=Orienteering+Tool)
http://www.sakwiki.com/ti...galleryId=66&offset=0 (http://www.sakwiki.com/tiki-browse_gallery.php?galleryId=66&offset=0)
I love also old Wengers !Its a beauty for sure, love the tang stamp Wenger used during this period :tu:
Before 1908, Wenger company name was "Coutellerie Suisse" with a 3 faces stamp on the tang of the blade...
And I found one (Carbon steel blades)...
On the 1908 "Wenger & Co" catalog this is a "model 505". I guess it dates between 1895 (new 3 faces stamp of "Coutellerie Suisse") and 1919 (begining of stainless steel).
It seems that Wenger has used this stamp on few knives until 1942.
Before restoration :
(http://www.jcfiguet.com/FCS/Mutitools/CoutSuisse2.jpg)
After a very important restoration :
(http://i56.servimg.com/u/f56/12/24/75/57/coutel13.jpg)
(http://i56.servimg.com/u/f56/12/24/75/57/coutel15.jpg)
Beautifull isn't it ?
I love also old Wengers !Its a beauty for sure, love the tang stamp Wenger used during this period :tu:
Before 1908, Wenger company name was "Coutellerie Suisse" with a 3 faces stamp on the tang of the blade...
And I found one (Carbon steel blades)...
On the 1908 "Wenger & Co" catalog this is a "model 505". I guess it dates between 1895 (new 3 faces stamp of "Coutellerie Suisse") and 1919 (begining of stainless steel).
It seems that Wenger has used this stamp on few knives until 1942.
Before restoration :
(http://www.jcfiguet.com/FCS/Mutitools/CoutSuisse2.jpg)
After a very important restoration :
(http://i56.servimg.com/u/f56/12/24/75/57/coutel13.jpg)
(http://i56.servimg.com/u/f56/12/24/75/57/coutel15.jpg)
Beautifull isn't it ?
Very interesting !
I think :
- The 1st is late 1985 or early 1986
- The 2nd is 1896
- The 3rd, is between 1987 and 1991
- The 4th, is since 1992
This is based on various observations and cross made from catalogs, advertisements, books, personal supositions and knives of my collection. But of course it lacks precision and formal proofs !
Good pictures. Would be best to update the Orienteering Tool page with them. :salute: I'll let you have the honors. :D
http://www.sakwiki.com/ti...hp?page=Orienteering+Tool (http://www.sakwiki.com/tiki-index.php?page=Orienteering+Tool)
http://www.sakwiki.com/ti...galleryId=66&offset=0 (http://www.sakwiki.com/tiki-browse_gallery.php?galleryId=66&offset=0)
Well done Basilio, i know it is much work to Research. It is an ok date for now, it could be 1991, this is the most close i can get to the 3rd type. Then the 4th that one can swirl is later in the 90s maybe 1996-1998 and up. This have the middle liner. Then the last is almost the same only with no middle liner. I must also mention to be aware of Wenger variations, since they are famous for this.
The first is 1985 and up, the second type is close, maybe 1986-87. Then again it could be different.
Good info, i can see on the new knives and the Giant knife that the last Compass is without the middle liner. So the one on this Super-Talent is probably not the fully New or last. I believe we should be ok with Basilio`s Picture and info since it would be even more variations and types. There are probably variations and interim models.
[See this picture from "The Illustrated Directory of Special Forces 2002" :
(http://i33.servimg.com/u/f33/12/24/75/57/the_il10.jpg)
Is it a new generation ?
I see we are OK for the 1st and the 2nd generation dates.
For the 3rd generation, I made a mistake : it was 1992 as you can see on Wenger catalog 1992/1995 for Europ.
So, the 4th generation is probably late 1990's (after 1995).
Good info, i can see on the new knives and the Giant knife that the last Compass is without the middle liner. So the one on this Super-Talent is probably not the fully New or last. I believe we should be ok with Basilio`s Picture and info since it would be even more variations and types. There are probably variations and interim models.
I think the more important is to define "big generations" (4 or 5) with years and to know it can exists variations and interim model between 2 generations...
Be carfull with the Giant knife, this knife is just there to show all wenger tools, not variations and it is manufactured manually, lot of tools are adjusted to work !
Good info, i can see on the new knives and the Giant knife that the last Compass is without the middle liner. So the one on this Super-Talent is probably not the fully New or last. I believe we should be ok with Basilio`s Picture and info since it would be even more variations and types. There are probably variations and interim models.
I think the more important is to define "big generations" (4 or 5) with years and to know it can exists variations and interim model between 2 generations...
Be carfull with the Giant knife, this knife is just there to show all wenger tools, not variations and it is manufactured manually, lot of tools are adjusted to work !
Yes i know, thats why i double checked and searched. Always :tu: Absolutely we must use the main types into a 4 or 5 model types. I put in a Picture on the 1 31 03 i have showed before. Atleast this should be from the late 90s or maybe. This type Compass i have seen around. With the middle liner. I did search to try and find a fully date for when this was introduced, swirl and so on. I looked on knives and all material i could find. again good work by you and everyone!
Good find!
Didn't have any idea about an hollow ruler!
Since it appears that North Man has a 5th generation and jcfiguet the 6th, would you mind if I use your pictures for the wiki?
I'll give full credits, of course
---
North Man what do you mean when you talk about an "Arrow" in the compass?
Good find!
Didn't have any idea about an hollow ruler!
Since it appears that North Man has a 5th generation and jcfiguet the 6th, would you mind if I use your pictures for the wiki?
I'll give full credits, of course
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North Man what do you mean when you talk about an "Arrow" in the compass?
No probem tu use photos, but please add "http://www.fans-du-couteau-suisse.com" on each photos (respect for the author).
Good find!
Didn't have any idea about an hollow ruler!
Since it appears that North Man has a 5th generation and jcfiguet the 6th, would you mind if I use your pictures for the wiki?
I'll give full credits, of course
---
North Man what do you mean when you talk about an "Arrow" in the compass?
No probem tu use photos, but please add "http://www.fans-du-couteau-suisse.com" on each photos (respect for the author).
:tu:
Quite a lot of progress on dating the development of this tool in a short time. Great work Basilio, jcfiguet and North Man. :hatsoff:
Well done! I believe we need to focus on these for now. Wenger did not make it easy for us collectors, but i do love their producs.
I remember we discussed the start of the more modern Swiss Army Knife from the early 70s, since then they have produced more novelties and special range, sportsman knives and gadget knives than anyone. They did some amazing moves from the early 70s, from the 80s and until the merging today.
This is why it is very fun to collect them, one will always get a product not only for use but also a for a variation collector. They are almost like a postage stamp, one never know when a treasure appears!
Here is a picture with a good Compass to the left (swirl to North). Not easy to see ho accurate from a picture, i have also tested this Wenger against a military type Compass. This Wenger on my knife is very good and can be used. Atleast to get a direction. Then i have the Wenger type two. Have seen this broken on atleast two knives. This then may have a fault. It will jump out of place.
PS the Picture is just to show them, if to be used one must not have them near each other + the key ring/chain is magnetic and so on. You know :)
Finally :mail:
(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-nBTgaxhcYQk/Un6GkYj0xAI/AAAAAAAAIts/kRFF7LeUV2A/s800/2_DSCN5817_r.jpg)
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-xUtgSu6CXKk/Un6GwC3s_aI/AAAAAAAAIt8/Dx4wZ_mJ0yg/s800/15%2520UnitedWoods%2520Box.jpg)
(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-F5Eta66JE5E/Un6HKSN117I/AAAAAAAAIxE/ksWMJd3KOG8/s800/7%2520UW%2520Oceania.jpg)
For more pictures and info, see my blog (http://swissknives.info/wenger-united-woods/)
I just stumbled over thisOk, it's time to respond with something.
Wenger Bernina. It was a crazy quest to find it. Bought last one, luckily it sat forgotten behind show window in russian accesories store for over a year.
I was just looking at that model yesterday in an old thread. :D Very nice find. :tu:
Yeah, and it's also a great gift for a woman that likes to sew ;) My second half was unbelievebly happy when I brought this baby to her. I was surprised myself by number of unique implements inside of it. Never thought it would be so hard to find it. They are discontinued long time ago, although sakwiki keeps silence about this.
Yeah, that wood set :drool: I'm guessing the placement on the map designates where the wood came from :think:Yes, I think so. Not sure about the asian one, but the others, yes.
Humm,
I'm having few problems crating images for all the compass variations.
I think we have basically four options:
a) create a total of three pictures for the wiki (front, back, scale attachment), each one showing the six variations.
Unfortuantely since the pictures were taken by different people, with different sizes etc., they best I could do is the preview image attached...not the best solution, to be honest;
b) we could have in the wiki page a total of 9 pictures: 3 for the first 4 generations (my pictures), 3 for the 5th generation (North Man) and 3 for the 6th generation (jcfiguet )...perhaps too many pictures for a single wiki page;
c) we could agree on a same size, background, camera angle and try to achieve a better result on option a) keeping the total to 3 pictures, each one showing the 6 different compasses;
d) remove all the pictures from the wiki page, edit the variations and just link the images to the gallery
:think:
WOW!!!!
Jean-Claude thank you so much!!!!!!
Will upload the picture (credits will be given in the image description) and edit the wiki page.
Thanks again!
That's interesting!
I whish they were still making the logo in metal, and not in plastic.
The printed one is the worst looking, in my opinion.
Is any body knows these knivesHumm, I don't have a name for the first one.
Forester with pliers instead of wood saw?
Monarch with lock blade ?
Is any body knows these knives
Forester with pliers instead of wood saw?
(http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/MTIwMFgxNjAw/z/K4sAAOxyXDhSfriO/$_12.JPG)
Monarch with lock blade ?
(http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/MTIwMFgxNjAw/z/o0wAAOxyRNJSgVN5/$_12.JPG)
(http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/MTIwMFgxNjAw/z/YTwAAMXQUmFSgl0G/$_12.JPG)
Is any body knows these knivesAbout the first knife - not sure on the number or any name, anyhow it is the typical Wenger variation on the corkscrew/ phillips and the small blade/nailfile on the knives made and the combination of them. Some may be special orders, but i believe it is a Wenger mechanism on variations.
Forester with pliers instead of wood saw?
(http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/MTIwMFgxNjAw/z/K4sAAOxyXDhSfriO/$_12.JPG)
Monarch with lock blade ?
(http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/MTIwMFgxNjAw/z/o0wAAOxyRNJSgVN5/$_12.JPG)
(http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/MTIwMFgxNjAw/z/YTwAAMXQUmFSgl0G/$_12.JPG)
OK, I just realized that all the above pictures are from current ebay auctions :P
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Wenger-Unknown-rare-model-Swiss-Army-Knife-similar-Forester-w-pliers-no-saw-/200985727350
and
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Wenger-Swiss-Army-knife-Monarch-model-red-7-layer-/301014560393
As for the locking Monarch (or cellidor Lancelot, if you prefer) there is an additional one I saw (USA only)
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Lot-3-Swiss-Knives-Victorinox-and-Wenger-/131042036379
Since there was the box, I already asked the seller about a model name or number written on it, but he just answered me saying that there is no name/number written (brobably because the box is missing the top cover)
About the first knife - not sure on the number or any name, anyhow it is the typical Wenger variation on the corkscrew/ phillips and the small blade/nailfile on the knives made and the combination of them. Some may be special orders, but i believe it is a Wenger mechanism on variations.
It is a Company philosophy on products that they used and use. You probably know this, a part we collectors like. Thank you for posting it! It may happen that one will find a private mod, but this is for me another confirmation on Wenger philosophy. We need to find a name :tu:
About the first knife - not sure on the number or any name, anyhow it is the typical Wenger variation on the corkscrew/ phillips and the small blade/nailfile on the knives made and the combination of them. Some may be special orders, but i believe it is a Wenger mechanism on variations.I thought the same and it is actually very correct, as the Tradesman (small blade+phillips) was later called Classic 51
Not sure i have showed this before, from the left is the hot stamped emblem with silver color. This like i did mention could have been used even before 1980, perhaps you could tell me?. Anyhow one can find the hot stamped during the 90s also. Wenger did mention they went over to pad printing in the 80s, most likely late 80s. We have the same here with the variations and interim knives. During around 1988 Wenger went over to the longer can opener, and also from this date we see the W on the backside of the tang.
With advertising knives it depends on the buyer, what he wants, normal or Budget, i have found variations.
Found it! 8)
The first knife is a Classic 50
First reference is from a 2006 european catalog (first attachment)
catalog 1.50.09
Second reference is from a 2008 european catalog (second picture)
catalog 1.050.009.000
Probably discontinued in 2008, as I saw no reference on the 2009 european catalogAbout the first knife - not sure on the number or any name, anyhow it is the typical Wenger variation on the corkscrew/ phillips and the small blade/nailfile on the knives made and the combination of them. Some may be special orders, but i believe it is a Wenger mechanism on variations.I thought the same and it is actually very correct, as the Tradesman (small blade+phillips) was later called Classic 51
Found it! 8)
The first knife is a Classic 50
First reference is from a 2006 european catalog (first attachment)
catalog 1.50.09
Second reference is from a 2008 european catalog (second picture)
catalog 1.050.009.000
Probably discontinued in 2008, as I saw no reference on the 2009 european catalogAbout the first knife - not sure on the number or any name, anyhow it is the typical Wenger variation on the corkscrew/ phillips and the small blade/nailfile on the knives made and the combination of them. Some may be special orders, but i believe it is a Wenger mechanism on variations.I thought the same and it is actually very correct, as the Tradesman (small blade+phillips) was later called Classic 51
Wonderfull ! Thanks a lot !
This model is not referenced yet on http://www.sakwiki.com...
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P.S.
We've been discussing a project of turning the SAKwiki into a multilingual wiki, with translations of the pages into other languages to make it easier for people that are not so versed in English. Maybe French, Italian, German, Spanish for starters, but other languages could be added later. That would be a very big project though as the wiki is several hundred pages big, so best we start it after the wiki images have been collected. Of course if we find enough people interested in the project. Any thoughts?
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P.S.
We've been discussing a project of turning the SAKwiki into a multilingual wiki, with translations of the pages into other languages to make it easier for people that are not so versed in English. Maybe French, Italian, German, Spanish for starters, but other languages could be added later. That would be a very big project though as the wiki is several hundred pages big, so best we start it after the wiki images have been collected. Of course if we find enough people interested in the project. Any thoughts?
I think it would be better if Carlo created this page as he did all the information gathering but I'll help out if needed.
I think it would be better if Carlo created this page as he did all the information gathering but I'll help out if needed.
Sure, I was already planning to do so.
Will do that later.
P.S. Yesterday evening, looking in my collection, I realized I already have the locking Monarch.
Completely forgot about it! :facepalm:
Will post few pictures.
Edit: added pictures
I think it would be better if Carlo created this page as he did all the information gathering but I'll help out if needed.
Sure, I was already planning to do so.
Will do that later.
P.S. Yesterday evening, looking in my collection, I realized I already have the locking Monarch.
Completely forgot about it! :facepalm:
Will post few pictures.
Edit: added pictures
Carlo,
If you would like a personal rather than catalog photo of the Classic 50 for the wiki, let me know. I'll see if I can find my copy.
Karl
I think it would be better if Carlo created this page as he did all the information gathering but I'll help out if needed.
Sure, I was already planning to do so.
Will do that later.
P.S. Yesterday evening, looking in my collection, I realized I already have the locking Monarch.
Completely forgot about it! :facepalm:
Will post few pictures.
Edit: added pictures
Carlo,
If you would like a personal rather than catalog photo of the Classic 50 for the wiki, let me know. I'll see if I can find my copy.
Karl
Karl,
yes that would be great!
I'm almost done with the classic series, but please take a look and let me know if you find any errors.
Carlo,
Started going through my notes page by page, and there's an overwhelming amount of info to be added.
To start with:
Classic 66 has a version, Basic 66 without toothpick & tweezers., no. 1.66.41
Also didn't see a listing for the toilet paper knife, a five-blade Wenger with a special key for opening toilet paper dispensers. 400-500 done for a European company called Hygolet. :D (Don't have one)
Karl
Classic 30 was also sold as North Cape and Cap Nord.
Classic 13 was also sold as Mountain.
On the SwissMemory knives the first group have a plain pale blue back; the second group have a plain dark blue back.
Info I have is:
Two Classic 13s:
Classic 13 (1) - 1 13 03 is the Backpacker (with nail file) Suggest we stay with Backpacker.
Classic 13 (2) - 1 13 29 (with flat phillips) Have two separate listings as Mountain. However from your info that appears to be a series name. Suggest list as Classic 13, with note that Mountain is a series name that is sometimes applied to it.
1.12.23 is the Classic 12 or Pathfinder. I also have it listed as Mountain and Montagne, and North Cape Basic. As with the Classic 13 (2) suggest a note that those are series name.
Wow a lot of great investigative work recently!! :salute: :salute: :salute:
Thanks.Wow a lot of great investigative work recently!! :salute: :salute: :salute:
Thanks, but mainly just going through my notes.
Welcome back! :salute:
Thanks.Wow a lot of great investigative work recently!! :salute: :salute: :salute:
Thanks, but mainly just going through my notes.
Welcome back! :salute:
By recently I mean all the way back a couple of months including the Compass stuff and lots of variations on models. Picked up a couple catalogs recently so they might help some, I'll try to get them scanned; have a big back log of SAK stuff to catch up on.
Does anybody have an idea about a 75mm Wenger with the same configuration as the "Crusader"?
http://www.sakwiki.com/tiki-index.php?page=Crusader
Just found it in a shop and I could not find any reference.
Will post pictures tomorrow.
Wow a lot of great investigative work recently!! :salute: :salute: :salute:
Does anybody have an idea about a 75mm Wenger with the same configuration as the "Crusader"?
http://www.sakwiki.com/tiki-index.php?page=Crusader
Just found it in a shop and I could not find any reference.
Will post pictures tomorrow.
Here are the pictures, with an Esquire 65mm for size comparison
I did a quick check and can't find a reference for a 75mm Crusader, but I seem to remember seeing one in the past. Maybe Stressmaster will have something on it.
I did a quick check and can't find a reference for a 75mm Crusader, but I seem to remember seeing one in the past. Maybe Stressmaster will have something on it.
Sorry but the only 75mm knife I have seen is the VIP. :-\
There are some good shots of the VIP on the SAKWicki as well. Both models with and without keyring. I realize I probably should have used something for size reference in that shot. :pok:I did a quick check and can't find a reference for a 75mm Crusader, but I seem to remember seeing one in the past. Maybe Stressmaster will have something on it.
Sorry but the only 75mm knife I have seen is the VIP. :-\
Now you got me thinking I saw one too. :ahhh
:D
As for the 75mm VIP, there's a pic of it in Chakos 65/75mm thread about half way down (http://forum.multitool.org/swiss-forum/wenger-6575mm-knives/msg500380/#msg500380).
I'm thinking maybe we need to eliminate either the Highlander or Trailblazer page, and group everything under the same heading. Could make the Highlander a version of the Trailblazer, the same way we've made other 'basic' (no t&t) knives versions of their respective knives. Or go with Highlander as the main page since there are more numbered variations. Opinions?
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Trailblazer/Classic 11 - (red) 16931/1.11.03/1.011.009.000 (with T&T)
Trailblazer (black) - 1693102
Highlander (red) - 16979 (no T&T)
Highlander Fire Red (translucent) - 16150
Highlander Everglade Green - 16151
Highlander Smoke Grey - 16152
Highlander Glacier Blue - 16153
Highlander Mandarin Orange - 16154
Highlander Advantage Timber (camo) - 16170
Highlander Realtrees Hardwood (camo) - 16172
Serrated Highlander (red) - 16479
Day Hiker (Eddie Bauer)(red)- with lock (with T&T) - ?
Oak Day Hiker (Eddie Bauer)(oak handles) - with lock (no T&T) - ?
World Scout (same as Day Hiker)(red)(with lock and T&T) - 1.11.91.100
Related knives - EVO 11, EVO S11, EVOGrip 11, Scout Junior S11 (purple)
Here's the info I have on Wenger Basics, low cost versions without toothpick and tweezers.
The wiki lists three:
Basic 5 - Entree
Basic 11 - Forester
Basic 62 - Picnic
My info:
Basic 63 - another name for Entree (#1.63.41)
Basic 65 - Apprentice (# 16949 / 1.65.01)
Basic 66 - Classic 66 (#1.66.41)
Basic 7 - Commander (#? )
Basic 8 - Backpacker (#1.08.01)
Basic 9 - another name for Forester (#?)
Carlo,
The only info I have for the Basic 5 and 11 is what is currently in the wiki. My notebook data agrees with yours that the Basic 63 is the Classic 63/Entree, and the Basic 9 is the Forester. Also that the Basic 62 is the Classic 62/Picnic (missed that earlier). So it looks like our info's in agreement. Unless someone else comes up with other info I'd say drop the 5 & 11 and go with what we have.
Looking good! :tu:
Karl
I would not be in a big hurry to edit the Wiki for Basic 5 and Basic 11, the marketing name Basic and Classic are like almost the same just Wenger's transition from the Standard name. The numbering sceme transitioned too. If you really feel they are wrong, I'd put an 'Under Review' or something next to the names in the 85mm list. Something these things take a while to shake out and we've been pretty careful before listing new names.Carlo,
The only info I have for the Basic 5 and 11 is what is currently in the wiki. My notebook data agrees with yours that the Basic 63 is the Classic 63/Entree, and the Basic 9 is the Forester. Also that the Basic 62 is the Classic 62/Picnic (missed that earlier). So it looks like our info's in agreement. Unless someone else comes up with other info I'd say drop the 5 & 11 and go with what we have.
Looking good! :tu:
Karl
Yes, agree.
Will wait few days, than I'll edit the wiki entries for the 5 and 11 and hopefully add the missing ones.
Some lovely knives show folks :tu: i jump in with my lastest Wenger, - EvoWood 10 with the Association and Alltid Beredt (be prepared) on it. This is a Norwegian scout knife, laser engraved here. It is beautiful.Love that one! I am going to miss the Evowood. I hope Victorinox continues to use this Walnut, but uses more material than they used on the 111mm Damascus scales.
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Some lovely knives show folks :tu: i jump in with my lastest Wenger, - EvoWood 10 with the Association and Alltid Beredt (be prepared) on it. This is a Norwegian scout knife, laser engraved here. It is beautiful.Love that one! I am going to miss the Evowood. I hope Victorinox continues to use this Walnut, but a more material than they used on the 111mm Damascus.
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The number for the Sailfish is 16955. The plain-handled version is 1 19 13. Also includes screw driver, can opener, and reamer.
The Sailfish is a rather rare piece. Shows up in Wenger's 1979 North American catalog (page 5; see wiki).
FCS is offering a very nice Bye Bye Wenger limited edition: http://www.fans-du-couteau-suisse.com/t750-le-couteau-du-forum-2013Nice! I'd like one of those. :drool:
Looks great!
FCS is offering a very nice Bye Bye Wenger limited edition: http://www.fans-du-couteau-suisse.com/t750-le-couteau-du-forum-2013Nice! I'd like one of those. :drool:
Looks great!
Some lovely knives show folks :tu: i jump in with my lastest Wenger, - EvoWood 10 with the Association and Alltid Beredt (be prepared) on it. This is a Norwegian scout knife, laser engraved here. It is beautiful.
(http://forum.multitool.org/swiss-forum/any-love-for-wenger/?action=dlattach;attach=88706;image)
FCS is offering a very nice Bye Bye Wenger limited edition: http://www.fans-du-coutea...-le-couteau-du-forum-2013 (http://www.fans-du-couteau-suisse.com/t750-le-couteau-du-forum-2013)Nice! I'd like one of those. :drool:
Looks great!
And it's the last limited and numbered serie of Wenger !
I would not be in a big hurry to edit the Wiki for Basic 5 and Basic 11, the marketing name Basic and Classic are like almost the same just Wenger's transition from the Standard name. The numbering sceme transitioned too. If you really feel they are wrong, I'd put an 'Under Review' or something next to the names in the 85mm list. Something these things take a while to shake out and we've been pretty careful before listing new names.Carlo,
The only info I have for the Basic 5 and 11 is what is currently in the wiki. My notebook data agrees with yours that the Basic 63 is the Classic 63/Entree, and the Basic 9 is the Forester. Also that the Basic 62 is the Classic 62/Picnic (missed that earlier). So it looks like our info's in agreement. Unless someone else comes up with other info I'd say drop the 5 & 11 and go with what we have.
Looking good! :tu:
Karl
Yes, agree.
Will wait few days, than I'll edit the wiki entries for the 5 and 11 and hopefully add the missing ones.
I would not be in a big hurry to edit the Wiki for Basic 5 and Basic 11, the marketing name Basic and Classic are like almost the same just Wenger's transition from the Standard name. The numbering sceme transitioned too. If you really feel they are wrong, I'd put an 'Under Review' or something next to the names in the 85mm list. Something these things take a while to shake out and we've been pretty careful before listing new names.Carlo,
The only info I have for the Basic 5 and 11 is what is currently in the wiki. My notebook data agrees with yours that the Basic 63 is the Classic 63/Entree, and the Basic 9 is the Forester. Also that the Basic 62 is the Classic 62/Picnic (missed that earlier). So it looks like our info's in agreement. Unless someone else comes up with other info I'd say drop the 5 & 11 and go with what we have.
Looking good! :tu:
Karl
Yes, agree.
Will wait few days, than I'll edit the wiki entries for the 5 and 11 and hopefully add the missing ones.
The info on the Basic 5 and 11 came from somewhere, but neither Carlo nor I can document it. Do you have any more info on them?
Can anyone else help? :think:
FCS is offering a very nice Bye Bye Wenger limited edition: http://www.fans-du-coutea...-le-couteau-du-forum-2013 (http://www.fans-du-couteau-suisse.com/t750-le-couteau-du-forum-2013)Nice! I'd like one of those. :drool:
Looks great!
And it's the last limited and numbered serie of Wenger !
You chose wisely. :hatsoff: Great color and a very good model to represent the Wenger SAKs. One of my favorites too.
FCS is offering a very nice Bye Bye Wenger limited edition: http://www.fans-du-coutea...-le-couteau-du-forum-2013 (http://www.fans-du-couteau-suisse.com/t750-le-couteau-du-forum-2013)Nice! I'd like one of those. :drool:
Looks great!
And it's the last limited and numbered serie of Wenger !
You chose wisely. :hatsoff: Great color and a very good model to represent the Wenger SAKs. One of my favorites too.
Thanks !
I can't say where they came from right now, only that they likely came from a good source. However even catalogs and catalog images can be wrong, and things get mixed up at different vendors all the time so I'm not saying they are correct.I would not be in a big hurry to edit the Wiki for Basic 5 and Basic 11, the marketing name Basic and Classic are like almost the same just Wenger's transition from the Standard name. The numbering sceme transitioned too. If you really feel they are wrong, I'd put an 'Under Review' or something next to the names in the 85mm list. Something these things take a while to shake out and we've been pretty careful before listing new names.Carlo,
The only info I have for the Basic 5 and 11 is what is currently in the wiki. My notebook data agrees with yours that the Basic 63 is the Classic 63/Entree, and the Basic 9 is the Forester. Also that the Basic 62 is the Classic 62/Picnic (missed that earlier). So it looks like our info's in agreement. Unless someone else comes up with other info I'd say drop the 5 & 11 and go with what we have.
Looking good! :tu:
Karl
Yes, agree.
Will wait few days, than I'll edit the wiki entries for the 5 and 11 and hopefully add the missing ones.
The info on the Basic 5 and 11 came from somewhere, but neither Carlo nor I can document it. Do you have any more info on them?
Can anyone else help? :think:
My guess is from the misinterpretation of the German listings.
You can find it listed on Smartknives (http://www.smartknives.com/Wenger-Knives/Wenger-Basic-5-Knife.htm) as Basic 5 and for instance this Australian site list (http://www.travelgear.com.au/wenger-basic-5-swiss-army-knife/) is as such too. Most German sites (http://www.mctrek.de/Licht,+Messer,+Tools/Klappmesser/Wenger+Basic+5+teilig+Schweizer+Messer_4021823) I find don't actually name the SAKs with their actual model name but rather count its functions so somewhere along the way this: "Wenger Basic 5 teilig Schweizer Messer" (Wenger Basic 5 piece/tool Swiss knife = blade/combo/corkscrew/toothpick/tweezers) got named Wenger Basic 5 on other sites.
I can't say where they came from right now, only that they likely came from a good source. However even catalogs and catalog images can be wrong, and things get mixed up at different vendors all the time so I'm not saying they are correct.I would not be in a big hurry to edit the Wiki for Basic 5 and Basic 11, the marketing name Basic and Classic are like almost the same just Wenger's transition from the Standard name. The numbering sceme transitioned too. If you really feel they are wrong, I'd put an 'Under Review' or something next to the names in the 85mm list. Something these things take a while to shake out and we've been pretty careful before listing new names.Carlo,
The only info I have for the Basic 5 and 11 is what is currently in the wiki. My notebook data agrees with yours that the Basic 63 is the Classic 63/Entree, and the Basic 9 is the Forester. Also that the Basic 62 is the Classic 62/Picnic (missed that earlier). So it looks like our info's in agreement. Unless someone else comes up with other info I'd say drop the 5 & 11 and go with what we have.
Looking good! :tu:
Karl
Yes, agree.
Will wait few days, than I'll edit the wiki entries for the 5 and 11 and hopefully add the missing ones.
The info on the Basic 5 and 11 came from somewhere, but neither Carlo nor I can document it. Do you have any more info on them?
Can anyone else help? :think:
My guess is from the misinterpretation of the German listings.
You can find it listed on Smartknives (http://www.smartknives.com/Wenger-Knives/Wenger-Basic-5-Knife.htm) as Basic 5 and for instance this Australian site list (http://www.travelgear.com.au/wenger-basic-5-swiss-army-knife/) is as such too. Most German sites (http://www.mctrek.de/Licht,+Messer,+Tools/Klappmesser/Wenger+Basic+5+teilig+Schweizer+Messer_4021823) I find don't actually name the SAKs with their actual model name but rather count its functions so somewhere along the way this: "Wenger Basic 5 teilig Schweizer Messer" (Wenger Basic 5 piece/tool Swiss knife = blade/combo/corkscrew/toothpick/tweezers) got named Wenger Basic 5 on other sites.
I will note though that in Europe the names like "Classic 63" can represent more than one model, so it's possible (or even likely) the same is true for the Basic series. As an example 1.63.49 and 1.63.41 have been listed as "Classic 63". This may not be a great example, since the only difference is the inclusion, or not, of the Toothpick and Tweezers, but it demonstrates the short comings of this naming convention, and similarily Basic, and even Evo. It seems like the "Basic" naming convention was used only for a very short time or in regions where it had a better translation.
So I'm just saying better to play it safe, as we all know the naming of SAKs has been anything but precise. I'll keep an eye open for references to the Basic Series.
I will note though that in Europe the names like "Classic 63" can represent more than one model, so it's possible (or even likely) the same is true for the Basic series. As an example 1.63.49 and 1.63.41 have been listed as "Classic 63". This may not be a great example, since the only difference is the inclusion, or not, of the Toothpick and Tweezers, but it demonstrates the short comings of this naming convention, and similarily Basic, and even Evo. It seems like the "Basic" naming convention was used only for a very short time or in regions where it had a better translation.
So I'm just saying better to play it safe, as we all know the naming of SAKs has been anything but precise. I'll keep an eye open for references to the Basic Series.
FCS is offering a very nice Bye Bye Wenger limited edition: http://www.fans-du-coutea...-le-couteau-du-forum-2013 (http://www.fans-du-couteau-suisse.com/t750-le-couteau-du-forum-2013)Nice! I'd like one of those. :drool:
Looks great!
And it's the last limited and numbered serie of Wenger !
You chose wisely. :hatsoff: Great color and a very good model to represent the Wenger SAKs. One of my favorites too.
Thanks !
I would dearly love to get one of these.
Can anyone help me?
I will note though that in Europe the names like "Classic 63" can represent more than one model, so it's possible (or even likely) the same is true for the Basic series. As an example 1.63.49 and 1.63.41 have been listed as "Classic 63". This may not be a great example, since the only difference is the inclusion, or not, of the Toothpick and Tweezers, but it demonstrates the short comings of this naming convention, and similarily Basic, and even Evo. It seems like the "Basic" naming convention was used only for a very short time or in regions where it had a better translation.
So I'm just saying better to play it safe, as we all know the naming of SAKs has been anything but precise. I'll keep an eye open for references to the Basic Series.
Francis,
let me check tomorrow morning why the Entree page has these two identifiers:
1.63.41 Wenger AN: standard configuration
1.063.049.000 Wenger AN: standard configuration (Classic 63)
as I have all my catalogs at work.
It could be very possibly because of an error, and I apologize in advance if it was the case.
However, it took me almost two weeks for just for editing the classic menu, because I was cross-checking data and catalog numbers using 5 european catalogs and 2 North American ones.
So the edits were made only after some serious research and I totally agree that a "slow" approach is the way to go!
I know; I trust your research, but I just want to be careful as you well know new information appears all the time and we have to make corrections.
I will note though that in Europe the names like "Classic 63" can represent more than one model, so it's possible (or even likely) the same is true for the Basic series. As an example 1.63.49 and 1.63.41 have been listed as "Classic 63". This may not be a great example, since the only difference is the inclusion, or not, of the Toothpick and Tweezers, but it demonstrates the short comings of this naming convention, and similarily Basic, and even Evo. It seems like the "Basic" naming convention was used only for a very short time or in regions where it had a better translation.
So I'm just saying better to play it safe, as we all know the naming of SAKs has been anything but precise. I'll keep an eye open for references to the Basic Series.
Francis,
let me check tomorrow morning why the Entree page has these two identifiers:
1.63.41 Wenger AN: standard configuration
1.063.049.000 Wenger AN: standard configuration (Classic 63)
as I have all my catalogs at work.
It could be very possibly because of an error, and I apologize in advance if it was the case.
However, it took me almost two weeks for just for editing the classic menu, because I was cross-checking data and catalog numbers using 5 european catalogs and 2 North American ones.
So the edits were made only after some serious research and I totally agree that a "slow" approach is the way to go!
FCS is offering a very nice Bye Bye Wenger limited edition: http://www.fans-du-coutea...-le-couteau-du-forum-2013 (http://www.fans-du-couteau-suisse.com/t750-le-couteau-du-forum-2013)Nice! I'd like one of those. :drool:
Looks great!
And it's the last limited and numbered serie of Wenger !
You chose wisely. :hatsoff: Great color and a very good model to represent the Wenger SAKs. One of my favorites too.
Thanks !
FCS is offering a very nice Bye Bye Wenger limited edition: http://www.fans-du-coutea...-le-couteau-du-forum-2013 (http://www.fans-du-couteau-suisse.com/t750-le-couteau-du-forum-2013)Nice! I'd like one of those. :drool:
Looks great!
And it's the last limited and numbered serie of Wenger !
You chose wisely. :hatsoff: Great color and a very good model to represent the Wenger SAKs. One of my favorites too.
Thanks !
It seems the inscription would have been better as "Adieu Wenger" or "Au revoir Wenger".
Very nice knife jcfiguet!
I know; I trust your research, but I just want to be careful as you well know new information appears all the time and we have to make corrections.
I will note though that in Europe the names like "Classic 63" can represent more than one model, so it's possible (or even likely) the same is true for the Basic series. As an example 1.63.49 and 1.63.41 have been listed as "Classic 63". This may not be a great example, since the only difference is the inclusion, or not, of the Toothpick and Tweezers, but it demonstrates the short comings of this naming convention, and similarily Basic, and even Evo. It seems like the "Basic" naming convention was used only for a very short time or in regions where it had a better translation.
So I'm just saying better to play it safe, as we all know the naming of SAKs has been anything but precise. I'll keep an eye open for references to the Basic Series.
Francis,
let me check tomorrow morning why the Entree page has these two identifiers:
1.63.41 Wenger AN: standard configuration
1.063.049.000 Wenger AN: standard configuration (Classic 63)
as I have all my catalogs at work.
It could be very possibly because of an error, and I apologize in advance if it was the case.
However, it took me almost two weeks for just for editing the classic menu, because I was cross-checking data and catalog numbers using 5 european catalogs and 2 North American ones.
So the edits were made only after some serious research and I totally agree that a "slow" approach is the way to go!
Classic 63 was just one example, don't worry too much about the examples I gave for that one because this is just part of the basic naming of that series, there is nothing really special about the Classic 63 example. I could have used Classic 62, Classic 66 or others in my example. I was just showing the nature of these naming conventions that use a name and number in that they are not precise. The same is true for the Evo system today especially between S versions and non-S version that retain the same number but may change tools as well as having the lock or not.
I think someone had a bad idea to call the traditional knives the Basic Series, but before it got too far someone put a stop to it and they started using the Classic naming. Or it was a particular region did have a good translation and somehow we ended up with Basic for a while before it was caught. However since Wenger has changed numbering at some times that may account for some of the number changes as well for the same model.
Update: Just to be clear I do agree that Basic 5 and Basic 11 seem to be incorrect, but I'm wondering why that is; either there was a change in some Wenger numbering, something like Enki suggests and there was a more basic translation issue between some region sites, or just simply someplace had it wrong.
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Anyway, at the moment the Entrée page list both the Basic ("5" for the wiki, "63" according to my data) and the Classic 63.
The identifier 1.63.41 is the correct one for the Basic 63 (or "5" following the wiki name).
This identifier does not refer to the Classic 63
(http://i.imgur.com/EqTA9lc.jpg)
As for the Classic 63, my information matches the ones that Karl provided.
All the references I found show the Classic 63 with toothpick and tweezers
(http://i.imgur.com/G1bWNGJ.jpg)
I think that the identifier shown in the wiki is the correct one for the Classic 63
Here is an example from the Eastern Europe Distributor catalog for the Classic 63. I didn't see this catalog on the Wiki, so I'll try to track it down and post it. I'm not sure of the date, but I think a member here, SOSAK, or guns.ru said it was 2008 some time back when we were using it as a reference for the origional Ranger Series. It could be it was just converted in 2008, I can remember off the top of my head.
EAGLE
The Wenger 1979 catalog also list an Eagle (16951), basically a Viking/Classic 101 with an eagle on the handle. I don't have one; does anyone here have a decent photo?
That's an interesting one. I think it looks like a Wenger-Imprint.I think the same, but need to have the knife in my hands first.
EAGLE
The Wenger 1979 catalog also list an Eagle (16951), basically a Viking/Classic 101 with an eagle on the handle. I don't have one; does anyone here have a decent photo?
The only image I ever saw is in the catalog that Francis posted.
I think it is also interesting the Deer, which has a different imprint as the one usually seen.
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I have this knife coming from the USA.
Do you think the image is a company logo or a Wenger imprint?
The knife is the "locking Monarch" we have been discussing few pages back.
It will be interesting to find out about the Canoe. It does look like the type of image Eddie Bauer or some other Outfitter would do, but either way it's a nice one.EAGLE
The Wenger 1979 catalog also list an Eagle (16951), basically a Viking/Classic 101 with an eagle on the handle. I don't have one; does anyone here have a decent photo?
The only image I ever saw is in the catalog that Francis posted.
I think it is also interesting the Deer, which has a different imprint as the one usually seen.
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I have this knife coming from the USA.
Do you think the image is a company logo or a Wenger imprint?
The knife is the "locking Monarch" we have been discussing few pages back.
Very nice! Never seen that logo before. Agree with Francis that it looks like Wenger did it. Wonder if it's a rare standard model? Could be a special run for some outdoor equipment company, but all the ones I have (Eddie Bauer, Cabela's, Orvis, etc.) have the company name prominently on the knife.
I bought the Sailfish from winddance.
Since my French is nil, I doubt I'll spend much time on FCS; but glad to have you here! :cheers:
Wenger 1983 US Catalog posted to SAKwiki. (http://www.sakwiki.com/tiki-browse_gallery.php?galleryId=107)
It's interesting with several small pieces of new information.
:cheers:
I wish, but I don't think that will happen. In the mean time we have 1999 to look forward to soon, but we have a lot of information from around that time and i don't have much time right now and i have a bigger sak project that needs doing so it will have to wait a little while. :drink:
Wenger 1983 US Catalog posted to SAKwiki. (http://www.sakwiki.com/tiki-browse_gallery.php?galleryId=107)
It's interesting with several small pieces of new information.
:cheers:
Waouuuuuuuuuuu ! So interesting ! Step by step I suppose you will find all Wenger catalogs !!! :drink:
I should mention I have not yet been able to confirm the date of 1983, so let me know if you have any ideas on this.
Wenger 1983 US Catalog posted to SAKwiki. (http://www.sakwiki.com/tiki-browse_gallery.php?galleryId=107)
It's interesting with several small pieces of new information.
:cheers:
I should mention I have not yet been able to confirm the date of 1983, so let me know if you have any ideas on this.
Wenger 1983 US Catalog posted to SAKwiki. (http://www.sakwiki.com/tiki-browse_gallery.php?galleryId=107)
It's interesting with several small pieces of new information.
:cheers:
I should mention I have not yet been able to confirm the date of 1983, so let me know if you have any ideas on this.
Wenger 1983 US Catalog posted to SAKwiki. (http://www.sakwiki.com/tiki-browse_gallery.php?galleryId=107)
It's interesting with several small pieces of new information.
:cheers:
If you have no indication of printed date it will be dificult to confirm 1983.
In this catalog we have indications about the "locking blade" but nothing about the security lock on screwdriver patented in 1982. So I suppose the date is between 1979 and 1981...
Actually that would probably support 1983, since US importers generally lag Switzerland, sometimes by a few years, but less so with Wenger than with Victorinox.I should mention I have not yet been able to confirm the date of 1983, so let me know if you have any ideas on this.
Wenger 1983 US Catalog posted to SAKwiki. (http://www.sakwiki.com/tiki-browse_gallery.php?galleryId=107)
It's interesting with several small pieces of new information.
:cheers:
If you have no indication of printed date it will be dificult to confirm 1983.
In this catalog we have indications about the "locking blade" but nothing about the security lock on screwdriver patented in 1982. So I suppose the date is between 1979 and 1981...
See page 9 : it's the old screwdriver without security !
Actually that would probably support 1983, since US importers generally lag Switzerland, sometimes by a few years, but less so with Wenger than with Victorinox.I should mention I have not yet been able to confirm the date of 1983, so let me know if you have any ideas on this.
Wenger 1983 US Catalog posted to SAKwiki. (http://www.sakwiki.com/tiki-browse_gallery.php?galleryId=107)
It's interesting with several small pieces of new information.
:cheers:
If you have no indication of printed date it will be dificult to confirm 1983.
In this catalog we have indications about the "locking blade" but nothing about the security lock on screwdriver patented in 1982. So I suppose the date is between 1979 and 1981...
See page 9 : it's the old screwdriver without security !
I'm trying to get the original research on the date, but I am presuming on the positive side that it was valid.
We know it's later than 79, since we have the 79 catalog from the same distributor. It's almost certain they did not release one in 1980, so that would narrow the possible range to 1981 at the earliest.
Remember often in the older catalogs older pictures were used to save production costs where it was not too important to have the latest picture.Actually that would probably support 1983, since US importers generally lag Switzerland, sometimes by a few years, but less so with Wenger than with Victorinox.I should mention I have not yet been able to confirm the date of 1983, so let me know if you have any ideas on this.
Wenger 1983 US Catalog posted to SAKwiki. (http://www.sakwiki.com/tiki-browse_gallery.php?galleryId=107)
It's interesting with several small pieces of new information.
:cheers:
If you have no indication of printed date it will be dificult to confirm 1983.
In this catalog we have indications about the "locking blade" but nothing about the security lock on screwdriver patented in 1982. So I suppose the date is between 1979 and 1981...
See page 9 : it's the old screwdriver without security !
I'm trying to get the original research on the date, but I am presuming on the positive side that it was valid.
We know it's later than 79, since we have the 79 catalog from the same distributor. It's almost certain they did not release one in 1980, so that would narrow the possible range to 1981 at the earliest.
Yes, you are true it's later than 79.
I have no information of no editing a 80 catalogue...
But I'm not sure that U.S. importers are late behind Switzerland (70% of Wenger production is sold in North America) and generally Wenger catalogs or advertisements in magazines match with deposit dates of patents for new tools. So I think that 83 would be too late for this catalog.
Another detail of little importance : page 6, the alox "Standard Issue" shown is a old 1961 soldier knife model (variant 2) which was not used in the Swiss army after 1978 (see : http://www.couteaux-du-soldat-suisse.ch/J01/index.php/en/les-couteaux-du-soldat/les-modeles-1961/variante-2), so I guess Wenger continued to sell its old stock to civilian production LOL !
Finally this catalog is very important because we can identify many knives with printed handles that have not been distributed in Europe !
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Remember often in the older catalogs older pictures were used to save production costs where it was not too important to have the latest picture.
Great work People!, just did not have time to be here to much. I feel you all are very good. By the way, my new webpage http://www.sakhome.com
hope you like the Pictures!
Great work People!, just did not have time to be here to much. I feel you all are very good. By the way, my new webpage http://www.sakhome.com
hope you like the Pictures!
Hello North Man,
Congratulation for your website http://www.sakhome.com !
Very good work around Wenger brand !
I don't speak Norvegian but with google translate it's easier to understand !!!
I made a little advertising post of your website on FCS (http://www.fans-du-couteau-suisse.com/t756-nouveau-site-de-northman-consacre-a-wenger#9027) for our french speaking readers.
:cheers:
Yes my comment was related to the image of the Standard Issue, obviously they would have a picture of any new feature and we can agree that this catalog pre-dates the introduction of the Paclock for the screwdriver in the US. Now we just have to find out when that was....
Remember often in the older catalogs older pictures were used to save production costs where it was not too important to have the latest picture.
Yes I know the problem of re-using old pictures on catalogs, but when Wenger adds a new invention as the "packlock" for the blade they are advertising on the new tool or the new invention, it is also well known.
Another indication : the first patent date known for the security on the screwdriver is from august 82 (if I don't make a mistake) and usually Wenger makes catalogs between february and april.
So, if both arguments are true, then this could be a catalog of 82
Nice Northman, glad to see you have a website again. :cheers:
Great work People!, just did not have time to be here to much. I feel you all are very good. By the way, my new webpage http://www.sakhome.com
hope you like the Pictures!
Hello North Man,
Congratulation for your website http://www.sakhome.com !
Very good work around Wenger brand !
I don't speak Norvegian but with google translate it's easier to understand !!!
I made a little advertising post of your website on FCS (http://www.fans-du-couteau-suisse.com/t756-nouveau-site-de-northman-consacre-a-wenger#9027) for our french speaking readers.
:cheers:
Yes, North Man, congratulations!
I just had a look at your blog, and it is really well written with a lot of nice pictures!
Also note we have the US print advertisement(s) from Precise in late 1983 that mention locking-main-blades, but nothing about the screwdriver and pictures show the old one.Yes my comment was related to the image of the Standard Issue, obviously they would have a picture of any new feature and we can agree that this catalog pre-dates the introduction of the Paclock for the screwdriver in the US. Now we just have to find out when that was....
Remember often in the older catalogs older pictures were used to save production costs where it was not too important to have the latest picture.
Yes I know the problem of re-using old pictures on catalogs, but when Wenger adds a new invention as the "packlock" for the blade they are advertising on the new tool or the new invention, it is also well known.
Another indication : the first patent date known for the security on the screwdriver is from august 82 (if I don't make a mistake) and usually Wenger makes catalogs between february and april.
So, if both arguments are true, then this could be a catalog of 82
Thanks to everyone! :tu:Nice Northman, glad to see you have a website again. :cheers:
Great work People!, just did not have time to be here to much. I feel you all are very good. By the way, my new webpage http://www.sakhome.com
hope you like the Pictures!
Hello North Man,
Congratulation for your website http://www.sakhome.com !
Very good work around Wenger brand !
I don't speak Norvegian but with google translate it's easier to understand !!!
I made a little advertising post of your website on FCS (http://www.fans-du-couteau-suisse.com/t756-nouveau-site-de-northman-consacre-a-wenger#9027) for our french speaking readers.
:cheers:
Yes, North Man, congratulations!
I just had a look at your blog, and it is really well written with a lot of nice pictures!
Any love for Wenger??The more I think about it... it feels an awful lot like extortion. I too have stocked up on certain Wengers because of their upcoming demise, and that ties up resources I could otherwise be putting into other hobbies/brands etc...
lol - At this moment...none!! :facepalm:
TBH I'll be glad when its all over and done with, pretty sick now of spending good money each month on yet more Wenger's, simply because if I don't and decide later I'd like one I'll have to pay whatever the going rate will be. Providing of course its available. I've seriously had a real gutful these last few months.
Roll on 2014 :whistle: back to normality :ahhh
Any love for Wenger??The more I think about it... it feels an awful lot like extortion. I too have stocked up on certain Wengers because of their upcoming demise, and that ties up resources I could otherwise be putting into other hobbies/brands etc...
lol - At this moment...none!! :facepalm:
TBH I'll be glad when its all over and done with, pretty sick now of spending good money each month on yet more Wenger's, simply because if I don't and decide later I'd like one I'll have to pay whatever the going rate will be. Providing of course its available. I've seriously had a real gutful these last few months.
Roll on 2014 :whistle: back to normality :ahhh
You bet. They know exactly what they're doing :rant:
Already sent this to Nikola and Carlo, but a fair amount of work so I'll also post it here. :D
The Wenger SwissMemory series is a set of knives that feature pictures of Swiss scenery. The original group consisted of two lots, three Esquires and three Commanders, each with a shot of a distinct location. The second group consisted of another three Commanders, with the scenes each being a composite photo of four Swiss locations.
Esquire SwissMemory (photo 1)
SwissMemory 950 Bernese Oberland 1.95.00.950
SwissMemory 951 Matterhorn 1.95.00.951
SwissMemory 952 Thunersee 1.95.00.952 (not shown)
Commander SwissMemory (group 1)(photo 2)
SwissMemory 900 Lake Geneva/Lac Leman 1.94.00.900
SwissMemory 901 Furclasee 1.94.00901
SwissMemory 902 Santis 1.94.00.902
Commander SwissMemory (group 2)(photo 3)
SwissMemory 903 composite of Chillon castle, Geneva fountain, Matterhorn, Luzern bridge 1.94.00.903
SwissMemory 904 composite of Chillon castle, Matterhorn, Geneva fountain, Bern clock tower 1.94.00.904
SwissMemory 905 composite of Rhine falls, Luzern bridge, alpine meadow, lake steamer 1.94.00.905
@tosh and @sawman
I went to Delemont last month to visit the Wenger factory...
It was rather sad: in the store, they sell the last stocks of Wenger knives and in the factory, the blades are already stamped Victorinox, not Wenger, and some "pillars" like Mr. Peter Hug left the company.
Wenger Staff still does not understand the decision of Mr. Elserner junior to stop making Wenger knives. It seems that Mr. Elsener senior (died recently) did not want this strategy...
There is no clear communication regarding the future : no one can say if a part of the Wenger poduction will continue to be distributed under the Victorinox brand nor for how long.
So I'm not sure we will able to find Wenger knives in 2 or 3 years, when distributors stocks will be exhausted.
PHEASANTS:
There are two Wengers with pheasants on the handle. The first (shown) is a three-blade version with packlock. It's number is 16987. The same knife was sold as the Cumberland (16981) with a hiker on the handle. The Cumberland is part of a Backpacker series, and has that name on the main blade. Don't know of a plain handle version
The second Pheasant (no photo) is a larger eight-blade version (16954). It's blades included: Main blade, small clip blade, saw, scissors, can opener, bottle opener/screw driver; and on the back phillips s.d. and awl. See page 4 of the 1979 Wenger catalog in the wiki. It's plain handled version is 1 18 13.
Already sent this to Nikola and Carlo, but a fair amount of work so I'll also post it here. :D
The Wenger SwissMemory series is a set of knives that feature pictures of Swiss scenery. The original group consisted of two lots, three Esquires and three Commanders, each with a shot of a distinct location. The second group consisted of another three Commanders, with the scenes each being a composite photo of four Swiss locations.
Esquire SwissMemory (photo 1)
SwissMemory 950 Bernese Oberland 1.95.00.950
SwissMemory 951 Matterhorn 1.95.00.951
SwissMemory 952 Thunersee 1.95.00.952 (not shown)
Commander SwissMemory (group 1)(photo 2)
SwissMemory 900 Lake Geneva/Lac Leman 1.94.00.900
SwissMemory 901 Furclasee 1.94.00901
SwissMemory 902 Santis 1.94.00.902
Commander SwissMemory (group 2)(photo 3)
SwissMemory 903 composite of Chillon castle, Geneva fountain, Matterhorn, Luzern bridge 1.94.00.903
SwissMemory 904 composite of Chillon castle, Matterhorn, Geneva fountain, Bern clock tower 1.94.00.904
SwissMemory 905 composite of Rhine falls, Luzern bridge, alpine meadow, lake steamer 1.94.00.905
Running late as usual but here it finally is. If changes are necessary, let me know.
Thanks for the reply J-C.
Yes, I bet it was very moving seeing wenger disappearing. To be perfectly honest, I'm actually stunned that I've allowed what is basically a knife maker to have made such an impact on my day to day thoughts. Its quite absurd that 2yrs ago I wouldn't have cared a monkeys - yet I'm actually touched by what's happening.
It makes me incredibly angry with regards to our eastern friends who seemingly flood the markets with counterfeit copies simply because they lack the intrinuity to create their own iconic first. And still be allowed to get away with it
It's simply betrayal that a global brand name can be allowed to disappear after surviving for almost 120yrs.
What a world we live in.
Forgot the link
http://www.sakwiki.com/tiki-index.php?page=Wenger+SwissMemory+series
Forgot the link
http://www.sakwiki.com/tiki-index.php?page=Wenger+SwissMemory+series
Well done!
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I would be ready to edit the Basic line section.
What about the Basic 5 and 11 reference?
It would be simplier to just edit them, as I need to use the correct names for the knives linked, like the Entrée and so on.
Eventually we could always edit again the pages, since they are mostly links to other knives
I love this joke :
http://www.sakwiki.com/tiki-index.php?page=First+Mage+Hogwarts
Could you add photo of this knife ?
I love this joke :
http://www.sakwiki.com/tiki-index.php?page=First+Mage+Hogwarts
Could you add photo of this knife ?
Well, that's it for me!!
I made my last Wenger purchase 10 mins ago - now just need to work out how the hell I'm gonna pay the bill when it pops through the letterbox next month :facepalm:
BUT... I'll take comfort knowing I own a serious slice of Swiss history :sak:
:drink:
Well, that's it for me!!
I made my last Wenger purchase 10 mins ago - now just need to work out how the hell I'm gonna pay the bill when it pops through the letterbox next month :facepalm:
BUT... I'll take comfort knowing I own a serious slice of Swiss history :sak:
:drink:
And you have photo ?
Forgot the link
http://www.sakwiki.com/tiki-index.php?page=Wenger+SwissMemory+series
Well done!
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I would be ready to edit the Basic line section.
What about the Basic 5 and 11 reference?
It would be simplier to just edit them, as I need to use the correct names for the knives linked, like the Entrée and so on.
Eventually we could always edit again the pages, since they are mostly links to other knives
I would remove them from the index and add under the confirmed model names that they may be known in some areas as the Basic 5/Basic 11 but that informations has yet to be confirmed, so we're covered in both cases. :salute:
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Hi J-C
Yeah, photo's will follow when they all arrive.
TBH, without sounding melodramatic I actually feel physically ill having spent so much money over the past few months. It depresses me no end!! :facepalm:
Yet, deep down I'm quietly confident that I've made the right purchases. I've had to do an enormous amount of research to try and work out what "I" think will be good investsments. Still, it doesn't remove the guilt trip when I stop to think what all that money could have been used for.
I'm absolutely determined to curb my spending habits in 2014. And, I actually believe I will.
I'll post pics once everything's arrived.
Don't want to tempt fate and say what's coming, you'll all have to wait and see ;)
(For the Wood Collection under the Wenger series in SAKwiki)
The Wood Collection is one of Wenger's premium Star lines, and was produced in conjunction with the Swedish cutler EKA. Each company offered three knifes, which had similar curved bubinga wood handles made by EKA, and which were marketed jointly. The three Wenger versions are shown below. The EKA versions are shown in the Wenger 1992 (?) French catalog in the SAKwiki (pp 58-59).
The Wengers are:
Wood Collection 01 (Esquire) - 1 78 01
Wood Collection 02 (Commander) - 1 78 02
Wood Collection 03 (Traveler) - 1 78 03
In addition to the three Wood Collection Wengers, Wenger and EKA collaborated on another wood handled knife based on the Traveler. This is the Executive Major (EM-1), and features a more conventional straight wood handle without brass screws. It is shown on the right in photos 2 & 3.
(For the Wood Collection under the Wenger series in SAKwiki)
The Wood Collection is one of Wenger's premium Star lines, and was produced in conjunction with the Swedish cutler EKA. Each company offered three knifes, which had similar curved bubinga wood handles made by EKA, and which were marketed jointly. The three Wenger versions are shown below. The EKA versions are shown in the Wenger 1992 (?) French catalog in the SAKwiki (pp 58-59).
The Wengers are:
Wood Collection 01 (Esquire) - 1 78 01
Wood Collection 02 (Commander) - 1 78 02
Wood Collection 03 (Traveler) - 1 78 03
In addition to the three Wood Collection Wengers, Wenger and EKA collaborated on another wood handled knife based on the Traveler. This is the Executive Major (EM-1), and features a more conventional straight wood handle without brass screws. It is shown on the right in photos 2 & 3.
Seems like Wenger has an overstock of yellow RangerGrip scales.... :D
Don't know if it is an old news, but I just found listed some models for, as far as I understand, the Eastern market.
Had a quick look, but they seem just regular version, with the different scales.
(For the Wood Collection under the Wenger series in SAKwiki)
The Wood Collection is one of Wenger's premium Star lines, and was produced in conjunction with the Swedish cutler EKA. Each company offered three knifes, which had similar curved bubinga wood handles made by EKA, and which were marketed jointly. The three Wenger versions are shown below. The EKA versions are shown in the Wenger 1992 (?) French catalog in the SAKwiki (pp 58-59).
The Wengers are:
Wood Collection 01 (Esquire) - 1 78 01
Wood Collection 02 (Commander) - 1 78 02
Wood Collection 03 (Traveler) - 1 78 03
In addition to the three Wood Collection Wengers, Wenger and EKA collaborated on another wood handled knife based on the Traveler. This is the Executive Major (EM-1), and features a more conventional straight wood handle without brass screws. It is shown on the right in photos 2 & 3.
Nice collection Karl!
I too have the complete set, but didn't know about the additional knife.
Have a look at the pictures in this topic for the coolest Minathor on earth!
http://forumamontres.forumactif.com/t78503-couteau-horloger-wenger-minathor-50
:drool: :drool: :drool: :drool: :drool:(For the Wood Collection under the Wenger series in SAKwiki)
The Wood Collection is one of Wenger's premium Star lines, and was produced in conjunction with the Swedish cutler EKA. Each company offered three knifes, which had similar curved bubinga wood handles made by EKA, and which were marketed jointly. The three Wenger versions are shown below. The EKA versions are shown in the Wenger 1992 (?) French catalog in the SAKwiki (pp 58-59).
The Wengers are:
Wood Collection 01 (Esquire) - 1 78 01
Wood Collection 02 (Commander) - 1 78 02
Wood Collection 03 (Traveler) - 1 78 03
In addition to the three Wood Collection Wengers, Wenger and EKA collaborated on another wood handled knife based on the Traveler. This is the Executive Major (EM-1), and features a more conventional straight wood handle without brass screws. It is shown on the right in photos 2 & 3.
Nice collection Karl!
I too have the complete set, but didn't know about the additional knife.
Have a look at the pictures in this topic for the coolest Minathor on earth!
http://forumamontres.forumactif.com/t78503-couteau-horloger-wenger-minathor-50
That EKA-handled Minathor is :drool: Makes these look plebeian.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/WENGER-BERGEON-MINATHOR-Watchmaker-Pocket-Knife-CUSTOM-VERSIONS-/160659860657?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&var=&hash=item256812ecb1
Think I got the Executive Major from a US dealer who specialized in importing Scandinavian knives.
(For the Wood Collection under the Wenger series in SAKwiki)
The Wood Collection is one of Wenger's premium Star lines, and was produced in conjunction with the Swedish cutler EKA. Each company offered three knifes, which had similar curved bubinga wood handles made by EKA, and which were marketed jointly. The three Wenger versions are shown below. The EKA versions are shown in the Wenger 1992 (?) French catalog in the SAKwiki (pp 58-59).
The Wengers are:
Wood Collection 01 (Esquire) - 1 78 01
Wood Collection 02 (Commander) - 1 78 02
Wood Collection 03 (Traveler) - 1 78 03
In addition to the three Wood Collection Wengers, Wenger and EKA collaborated on another wood handled knife based on the Traveler. This is the Executive Major (EM-1), and features a more conventional straight wood handle without brass screws. It is shown on the right in photos 2 & 3.
(For the Wood Collection under the Wenger series in SAKwiki)
The Wood Collection is one of Wenger's premium Star lines, and was produced in conjunction with the Swedish cutler EKA. Each company offered three knifes, which had similar curved bubinga wood handles made by EKA, and which were marketed jointly. The three Wenger versions are shown below. The EKA versions are shown in the Wenger 1992 (?) French catalog in the SAKwiki (pp 58-59).
The Wengers are:
Wood Collection 01 (Esquire) - 1 78 01
Wood Collection 02 (Commander) - 1 78 02
Wood Collection 03 (Traveler) - 1 78 03
In addition to the three Wood Collection Wengers, Wenger and EKA collaborated on another wood handled knife based on the Traveler. This is the Executive Major (EM-1), and features a more conventional straight wood handle without brass screws. It is shown on the right in photos 2 & 3.
http://www.sakwiki.com/ti...and+EKA+-+Wood+Collection (http://www.sakwiki.com/tiki-index.php?page=Wenger+and+EKA+-+Wood+Collection)
Done. :salute:
(For the Wood Collection under the Wenger series in SAKwiki)
The Wood Collection is one of Wenger's premium Star lines, and was produced in conjunction with the Swedish cutler EKA. Each company offered three knifes, which had similar curved bubinga wood handles made by EKA, and which were marketed jointly. The three Wenger versions are shown below. The EKA versions are shown in the Wenger 1992 (?) French catalog in the SAKwiki (pp 58-59).
The Wengers are:
Wood Collection 01 (Esquire) - 1 78 01
Wood Collection 02 (Commander) - 1 78 02
Wood Collection 03 (Traveler) - 1 78 03
In addition to the three Wood Collection Wengers, Wenger and EKA collaborated on another wood handled knife based on the Traveler. This is the Executive Major (EM-1), and features a more conventional straight wood handle without brass screws. It is shown on the right in photos 2 & 3.
http://www.sakwiki.com/ti...and+EKA+-+Wood+Collection (http://www.sakwiki.com/tiki-index.php?page=Wenger+and+EKA+-+Wood+Collection)
Done. :salute:
Looks good, but you stomped on my change, so expect a few edits. I like to have the series pages look a little different. Not sure about included the knife from a different series.
(For the Wood Collection under the Wenger series in SAKwiki)
The Wood Collection is one of Wenger's premium Star lines, and was produced in conjunction with the Swedish cutler EKA. Each company offered three knifes, which had similar curved bubinga wood handles made by EKA, and which were marketed jointly. The three Wenger versions are shown below. The EKA versions are shown in the Wenger 1992 (?) French catalog in the SAKwiki (pp 58-59).
The Wengers are:
Wood Collection 01 (Esquire) - 1 78 01
Wood Collection 02 (Commander) - 1 78 02
Wood Collection 03 (Traveler) - 1 78 03
In addition to the three Wood Collection Wengers, Wenger and EKA collaborated on another wood handled knife based on the Traveler. This is the Executive Major (EM-1), and features a more conventional straight wood handle without brass screws. It is shown on the right in photos 2 & 3.
http://www.sakwiki.com/ti...and+EKA+-+Wood+Collection (http://www.sakwiki.com/tiki-index.php?page=Wenger+and+EKA+-+Wood+Collection)
Done. :salute:
Looks good, but you stomped on my change, so expect a few edits. I like to have the series pages look a little different. Not sure about included the knife from a different series.
(For the Wood Collection under the Wenger series in SAKwiki)
The Wood Collection is one of Wenger's premium Star lines, and was produced in conjunction with the Swedish cutler EKA. Each company offered three knifes, which had similar curved bubinga wood handles made by EKA, and which were marketed jointly. The three Wenger versions are shown below. The EKA versions are shown in the Wenger 1992 (?) French catalog in the SAKwiki (pp 58-59).
The Wengers are:
Wood Collection 01 (Esquire) - 1 78 01
Wood Collection 02 (Commander) - 1 78 02
Wood Collection 03 (Traveler) - 1 78 03
In addition to the three Wood Collection Wengers, Wenger and EKA collaborated on another wood handled knife based on the Traveler. This is the Executive Major (EM-1), and features a more conventional straight wood handle without brass screws. It is shown on the right in photos 2 & 3.
http://www.sakwiki.com/ti...and+EKA+-+Wood+Collection (http://www.sakwiki.com/tiki-index.php?page=Wenger+and+EKA+-+Wood+Collection)
Done. :salute:
Looks good, but you stomped on my change, so expect a few edits. I like to have the series pages look a little different. Not sure about included the knife from a different series.
Stomped? :think: Stomped what changes? There was just an empty page with this.
(http://www.sakwiki.com/show_image.php?id=3173)
Please leave it as is until we have a discussion on the edits.
Any way we can add that EKA-handled Minathor to the page?
I can't find it now, but I first saw this knife for sale on ebay.de few months ago.Any way we can add that EKA-handled Minathor to the page?
I think we'd need to find a new image of it since that one is watermarked. Also it looks like it is not really part of the Wood Collection (but it could be because of the handle design), it could be another EKA collaboration. The page could certainly contain a reference to it like the EM-1.
It is one fantastic knife. Have to be a Top Wenger model for sure. The Minathor is already at the top in my books.
I can't find it now, but I first saw this knife for sale on ebay.de few months ago.Any way we can add that EKA-handled Minathor to the page?
I think we'd need to find a new image of it since that one is watermarked. Also it looks like it is not really part of the Wood Collection (but it could be because of the handle design), it could be another EKA collaboration. The page could certainly contain a reference to it like the EM-1.
It is one fantastic knife. Have to be a Top Wenger model for sure. The Minathor is already at the top in my books.
So I started researching and found the topic I linked.
Here is an additional one
http://forums.watchuseek.com/f425/fs-blancpain-bergeon-wenger-watchmakers-swiss-knife-multitoo-loupe-wood-case-839788.html
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Nice pictures Karl!
I missed one on ebay there is a month or two ...
And I'm still sick for that !
I missed one on ebay there is a month or two ...
And I'm still sick for that !
I think I found it!
http://www.ebay.de/itm/Blancpain-WENGER-BERGEON-MINATHOR-Uhrmacher-Taschenmesser-watchmaker-knife-/251333869469?pt=DE_Sport_Camping_Outdoor_Campingmesser_werkzeug&hash=item3a84aa7f9d&nma=true&si=OUid3iqkEprDmePKdUEdmqxZHro%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557
Jean Claude was the same auction you saw?
I love this joke :
http://www.sakwiki.com/tiki-index.php?page=First+Mage+Hogwarts
Could you add photo of this knife ?
:rofl:
I hear it's hard to take a picture of it due to it's magical properties. ;) The author hasn't been online in years and the pictures he uploaded are no longer on that server. If you find one feel free to post it in the latest SAK thread. I don't think it's a Wenger though, more a Victorinox limited edition being 93mm and having a pruner blade. Wonder if you can chose the wand materials too, or if the First Mage chooses you? :think:
:D
That would look good next to the Vic with hair-comb. :rofl:I love this joke :
http://www.sakwiki.com/tiki-index.php?page=First+Mage+Hogwarts
Could you add photo of this knife ?
:rofl:
I hear it's hard to take a picture of it due to it's magical properties. ;) The author hasn't been online in years and the pictures he uploaded are no longer on that server. If you find one feel free to post it in the latest SAK thread. I don't think it's a Wenger though, more a Victorinox limited edition being 93mm and having a pruner blade. Wonder if you can chose the wand materials too, or if the First Mage chooses you? :think:
:D
I found a photo but it's one of possible magical configuration !
(http://www.jcfiguet.com/FCS/Mutitools/Joke.jpg)
(Another batch for the Wenger Series in the wiki)
The Europa or Europe series is one of Wenger's Star line of premium knives. The set consists of four knives with blue handles which are decorated with a circle of twelve gold stars, representing the countries of the European Union. Three of the handles are plastic, and one is anodized aluminum.
The different knives don't have names, but are designated only by their numbers.
1 92 15 - Esquire with blue plastic handles
1 92 13 - Commander with blue plastic handles
1 92 14 - Traveler with blue plastic handle and short key chain
1 92 16 - Traveler with blue alox handles
In addition to the Wenger Europas, Victorinox produced at least two European Union knives, shown in photo 3. They are a Spartan and a Huntsman. Their numbers are not currently known.
(Not sure the last part should go in the Wenger section, but threw it in for general info)
I found that auction right after you mentioned it was an ebay item. I'm sorry I missed it. I would have bid a lot more for it.
I missed one on ebay there is a month or two ...
And I'm still sick for that !
I think I found it!
http://www.ebay.de/itm/Blancpain-WENGER-BERGEON-MINATHOR-Uhrmacher-Taschenmesser-watchmaker-knife-/251333869469?pt=DE_Sport_Camping_Outdoor_Campingmesser_werkzeug&hash=item3a84aa7f9d&nma=true&si=OUid3iqkEprDmePKdUEdmqxZHro%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557
Jean Claude was the same auction you saw?
Yes it is ! In fact I wanted to bid 150€ 30 second before the end, but my PC rebooted at this moment because of a Microsoft update ! I was bummed!
I found that auction right after you mentioned it was an ebay item. I'm sorry I missed it. I would have bid a lot more for it.
I missed one on ebay there is a month or two ...
And I'm still sick for that !
I think I found it!
http://www.ebay.de/itm/Blancpain-WENGER-BERGEON-MINATHOR-Uhrmacher-Taschenmesser-watchmaker-knife-/251333869469?pt=DE_Sport_Camping_Outdoor_Campingmesser_werkzeug&hash=item3a84aa7f9d&nma=true&si=OUid3iqkEprDmePKdUEdmqxZHro%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557
Jean Claude was the same auction you saw?
Yes it is ! In fact I wanted to bid 150€ 30 second before the end, but my PC rebooted at this moment because of a Microsoft update ! I was bummed!
I was mistaking about the water marks those were on the regular Minathor images (Oasis I think) that I saw when I followed your original like and then some further link. Someone might be able to contact the ebay seller of that knife and as if we can use those pictures.
The nice thing is I have a new Special Wenger to watch for, I might die before I find it, but it's good to have something to look for.
ATTENTION!I found that auction right after you mentioned it was an ebay item. I'm sorry I missed it. I would have bid a lot more for it.
I missed one on ebay there is a month or two ...
And I'm still sick for that !
I think I found it!
http://www.ebay.de/itm/Blancpain-WENGER-BERGEON-MINATHOR-Uhrmacher-Taschenmesser-watchmaker-knife-/251333869469?pt=DE_Sport_Camping_Outdoor_Campingmesser_werkzeug&hash=item3a84aa7f9d&nma=true&si=OUid3iqkEprDmePKdUEdmqxZHro%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557
Jean Claude was the same auction you saw?
Yes it is ! In fact I wanted to bid 150€ 30 second before the end, but my PC rebooted at this moment because of a Microsoft update ! I was bummed!
I was mistaking about the water marks those were on the regular Minathor images (Oasis I think) that I saw when I followed your original like and then some further link. Someone might be able to contact the ebay seller of that knife and as if we can use those pictures.
The nice thing is I have a new Special Wenger to watch for, I might die before I find it, but it's good to have something to look for.
I love it
(http://forum.multitool.org/swiss-forum/any-love-for-wenger/?action=dlattach;attach=89146;image)
Well, that's it for me!!
I made my last Wenger purchase 10 mins ago - now just need to work out how the hell I'm gonna pay the bill when it pops through the letterbox next month :facepalm:
BUT... I'll take comfort knowing I own a serious slice of Swiss history :sak:
:drink:
I love it
(http://forum.multitool.org/swiss-forum/any-love-for-wenger/?action=dlattach;attach=89146;image)
Hi :salute:I love it
(http://forum.multitool.org/swiss-forum/any-love-for-wenger/?action=dlattach;attach=89146;image)
I Love it Too!! :drool: I think they did a fantasic job on this set, I'm very impressed. I also think it's a very fair price, I'm impressed also that they kept the price as low as they did for this special set.
Hi :salute:I love it
(http://forum.multitool.org/swiss-forum/any-love-for-wenger/?action=dlattach;attach=89146;image)
I Love it Too!! :drool: I think they did a fantasic job on this set, I'm very impressed. I also think it's a very fair price, I'm impressed also that they kept the price as low as they did for this special set.
I agree, i just had to buy this set, it is the most incredible SAKs i have seen :ahhh
ahh. :ahhh :ahhh :facepalm:
Just received the email stating my order is no longer available :cry:
Who knows, maybe one day online retailers will update their stock levels :whistle:
And, to make matters worse, out of the total number of items I'd ordered, it just had to be the one item that drew me to their site in the first instance.
Yeah, I'm too beginning to think this selling strategy is done on purpose :think:
Best 2013 deal for me.....€28,10 + shipment :D
Ok shipping was €17, but still pretty cheap.
Only the micro tools show minimal wear.
It was basically a combination of: bad wording/description + bad images + seller didn't know what he had.
Sometimes you get lucky, but unfortunately it happens only few times a year.
Best 2013 deal for me.....€28,10 + shipment :D
Ok shipping was €17, but still pretty cheap.
Only the micro tools show minimal wear.
It was basically a combination of: bad wording/description + bad images + seller didn't know what he had.
Sometimes you get lucky, but unfortunately it happens only few times a year.
Best 2013 deal for me.....€28,10 + shipment :D
Ok shipping was €17, but still pretty cheap.
Only the micro tools show minimal wear.
It was basically a combination of: bad wording/description + bad images + seller didn't know what he had.
Sometimes you get lucky, but unfortunately it happens only few times a year.
Best 2013 deal for me.....€28,10 + shipment :DThat's a very fine catch. :drool:
Ok shipping was €17, but still pretty cheap.
Only the micro tools show minimal wear.
It was basically a combination of: bad wording/description + bad images + seller didn't know what he had.
Sometimes you get lucky, but unfortunately it happens only few times a year.
Traveler stainless steel variations:
Metal 50 - 1.92.50
Anniversary - ?
Swiss Millenium (with gold inlays) - 153400
Traveler stainless steel variations:
Metal 50 - 1.92.50
Anniversary - ?
Swiss Millenium (with gold inlays) - 153400
the second is for the 200 th anniversary of the Helvetic Confederation (swiss)
Traveler stainless steel variations:
Metal 50 - 1.92.50
Anniversary - ?
Swiss Millenium (with gold inlays) - 153400
the second is for the 200 th anniversary of the Helvetic Confederation (swiss)
Actually 700th anniversary, in 1991. Its labeled 'Anniversary' in a catalog page I have copied. Unfortunately it doesn't list a model number. One of a half-dozen knives Wenger did for that occasion.
An assortment of Wenger knives done for the 700th anniversary.
No problem on the date :cheers:
The gold-trimmed version with William Tell is the 'Jubilee'
Down loaded the following info, but no other photos:
"The Regency, Royale, Imperiale, and Jubilee are 24 kt gold plated with special imprints."
An assortment of Wenger knives done for the 700th anniversary.
No problem on the date :cheers:
The gold-trimmed version with William Tell is the 'Jubilee'
Down loaded the following info, but no other photos:
"The Regency, Royale, Imperiale, and Jubilee are 24 kt gold plated with special imprints."
And I have this one : 100th Anniversary of Wenger (1993) !
you can get the photo if you want !
(http://i56.servimg.com/u/f56/12/24/75/57/travel15.jpg)
A couple of pieces of Wenger clean-up data:
Under the Skier, the version without the metal file has a number of 1.34.03. Names I have for it include: Mountain/Ski, Mountain, and Skiloper (from the 1980s Norwegian catalog).
Under Survivor, there's a version that has a small nailfile in place of the small clip blade. It has a number of 1.68.02.
A couple of pieces of Wenger clean-up data:
Under the Skier, the version without the metal file has a number of 1.34.03. Names I have for it include: Mountain/Ski, Mountain, and Skiloper (from the 1980s Norwegian catalog).
Under Survivor, there's a version that has a small nailfile in place of the small clip blade. It has a number of 1.68.02.
Karl,
there are more differences for the Survivor.
Model 1.68.02 has nail file (as you said), but also plain, no locking, main blade, metal file instead of the wood saw, no key ring.
Also model 1.92.73 is very similar to 1.68.02, but has long keychain and replaces the carabiner clip with the universal wrench.
I was planning to add those two to the Survivor page, but I think I'm still at letter "M" or so on the list.
Here are a couple of pictures I took for my EDCsource listings
Very nice knives that I've never seen before you have there Karl!
I have both the SAC EvoWoods. Pretty sure they're exclusive to SAC, but have no info on numbers. Thought I'd saved a printout for the files, but can't find it.
(http://forum.multitool.org/swiss-forum/any-love-for-wenger/?action=dlattach;attach=58597;image)
These are special edition for the Swiss Alpine Club (http://www.sac-cas.ch/en.html).I have both the SAC EvoWoods. Pretty sure they're exclusive to SAC, but have no info on numbers. Thought I'd saved a printout for the files, but can't find it.
(http://forum.multitool.org/swiss-forum/any-love-for-wenger/?action=dlattach;attach=58597;image)
Sorry to dig this one up but I was just checking the wiki for the SAC Evowood Cyclist and notised it isn't referenced there at all. Could someone who has one provide the model number/identifier for it so we can add it to the variations? Thanks. :cheers:
These are special edition for the Swiss Alpine Club (http://www.sac-cas.ch/en.html).I have both the SAC EvoWoods. Pretty sure they're exclusive to SAC, but have no info on numbers. Thought I'd saved a printout for the files, but can't find it.
http://forum.multitool.or...attach;attach=58597;image (http://forum.multitool.org/swiss-forum/any-love-for-wenger/?action=dlattach;attach=58597;image)
Sorry to dig this one up but I was just checking the wiki for the SAC Evowood Cyclist and notised it isn't referenced there at all. Could someone who has one provide the model number/identifier for it so we can add it to the variations? Thanks. :cheers:
The shop unfortunately is only in German:
Ranger (http://www.sac-cas.ch/en/shop.html?q=aHR0cDovL2ZqMTA1cDA0LnRyZW5kaG9zdGluZy5jaC9pbmRleC5waHAvY2x1Yi1zaG9wL3Jhbmdlci1tZXNzZXItbWl0LXNhYy1sb2dvLmh0bWw%3D)
And the small one (http://www.sac-cas.ch/en/shop.html?q=aHR0cDovL2ZqMTA1cDA0LnRyZW5kaG9zdGluZy5jaC9pbmRleC5waHAvY2x1Yi1zaG9wL2V2by13b29kLW1lc3Nlci1taXQtc2FjLWxvZ28uaHRtbA%3D%3D), sorry I have no clue about Wenger models ;)
I don't know how Wenger handels this, but these two models you can only order from the SAC.These are special edition for the Swiss Alpine Club (http://www.sac-cas.ch/en.html).I have both the SAC EvoWoods. Pretty sure they're exclusive to SAC, but have no info on numbers. Thought I'd saved a printout for the files, but can't find it.
http://forum.multitool.or...attach;attach=58597;image (http://forum.multitool.org/swiss-forum/any-love-for-wenger/?action=dlattach;attach=58597;image)
Sorry to dig this one up but I was just checking the wiki for the SAC Evowood Cyclist and notised it isn't referenced there at all. Could someone who has one provide the model number/identifier for it so we can add it to the variations? Thanks. :cheers:
The shop unfortunately is only in German:
Ranger (http://www.sac-cas.ch/en/shop.html?q=aHR0cDovL2ZqMTA1cDA0LnRyZW5kaG9zdGluZy5jaC9pbmRleC5waHAvY2x1Yi1zaG9wL3Jhbmdlci1tZXNzZXItbWl0LXNhYy1sb2dvLmh0bWw%3D)
And the small one (http://www.sac-cas.ch/en/shop.html?q=aHR0cDovL2ZqMTA1cDA0LnRyZW5kaG9zdGluZy5jaC9pbmRleC5waHAvY2x1Yi1zaG9wL2V2by13b29kLW1lc3Nlci1taXQtc2FjLWxvZ28uaHRtbA%3D%3D), sorry I have no clue about Wenger models ;)
Yes, I know what they are. :D
The Ranger is the RangerWood 161 and the 85mm is an SAC Evowood Cyclist. I'm searching for the numbers/identifiers these go by. ;)
http://www.sakwiki.com/ti...?page=Cyclist#Identifiers (http://www.sakwiki.com/tiki-index.php?page=Cyclist#Identifiers)
Dig some more digging:
RangerWood 161 Swiss Alpine Club 150th Anniversary - 1.077.161.830
EvoWood 35 Swiss Alpine Club - 1.035.009.830
Dig some more digging:
RangerWood 161 Swiss Alpine Club 150th Anniversary - 1.077.161.830
EvoWood 35 Swiss Alpine Club - 1.035.009.830
Thanks, added. :salute:
The numbers Carlo provided for the 161 are:
AF.1.077.161.830.C (RangerWood 161)
AF.1.077.161.830.P1.CAS (RangerWood 161.P1.CAS) without blade etching.
http://www.sakwiki.com/ti...angerWood+161#Identifiers (http://www.sakwiki.com/tiki-index.php?page=Wenger+RangerWood+161#Identifiers)
The shop unfortunately is only in German:
Ranger (http://www.sac-cas.ch/en/shop.html?q=aHR0cDovL2ZqMTA1cDA0LnRyZW5kaG9zdGluZy5jaC9pbmRleC5waHAvY2x1Yi1zaG9wL3Jhbmdlci1tZXNzZXItbWl0LXNhYy1sb2dvLmh0bWw%3D)
And the small one (http://www.sac-cas.ch/en/shop.html?q=aHR0cDovL2ZqMTA1cDA0LnRyZW5kaG9zdGluZy5jaC9pbmRleC5waHAvY2x1Yi1zaG9wL2V2by13b29kLW1lc3Nlci1taXQtc2FjLWxvZ28uaHRtbA%3D%3D), sorry I have no clue about Wenger models ;)
Tomorrow afternoon I'm going by the shop, see if the guy has come up with any info on the Tactile 812.
To be honest, I'm not expecting much, meaning I'm not sure he'll have done any search but you never know. I may have to pick up a SI or two to give him an incentive :D
Dig some more digging:
RangerWood 161 Swiss Alpine Club 150th Anniversary - 1.077.161.830
EvoWood 35 Swiss Alpine Club - 1.035.009.830
Thanks, added. :salute:
The numbers Carlo provided for the 161 are:
AF.1.077.161.830.C (RangerWood 161)
AF.1.077.161.830.P1.CAS (RangerWood 161.P1.CAS) without blade etching.
http://www.sakwiki.com/ti...angerWood+161#Identifiers (http://www.sakwiki.com/tiki-index.php?page=Wenger+RangerWood+161#Identifiers)
Yes,
I checked again, just to be sure, and the identifiers of the Ranger 161 do match (see attachment).
Karl have a look at the label of your Cyclist.
Does it say 1.035.009.830
or
1.035.009.830.P1.CAS?
I just saw this reference looking at the Weber's World page (see link below)
The shop unfortunately is only in German:
Ranger (http://www.sac-cas.ch/en/shop.html?q=aHR0cDovL2ZqMTA1cDA0LnRyZW5kaG9zdGluZy5jaC9pbmRleC5waHAvY2x1Yi1zaG9wL3Jhbmdlci1tZXNzZXItbWl0LXNhYy1sb2dvLmh0bWw%3D)
And the small one (http://www.sac-cas.ch/en/shop.html?q=aHR0cDovL2ZqMTA1cDA0LnRyZW5kaG9zdGluZy5jaC9pbmRleC5waHAvY2x1Yi1zaG9wL2V2by13b29kLW1lc3Nlci1taXQtc2FjLWxvZ28uaHRtbA%3D%3D), sorry I have no clue about Wenger models ;)
You can buy the Ranger 161.P1.CAS (see the wiki for the differences) and the special Cyclist also here
http://www.webers-world.com/product_info.php?info=p531_RangerWood-161-SAC.html&XTCsid=mormn2a27b6hf2issb2pc141n6
http://www.webers-world.com/product_info.php?info=p530_EvoWood-35-SAC.html&XTCsid=mormn2a27b6hf2issb2pc141n6Tomorrow afternoon I'm going by the shop, see if the guy has come up with any info on the Tactile 812.
To be honest, I'm not expecting much, meaning I'm not sure he'll have done any search but you never know. I may have to pick up a SI or two to give him an incentive :D
Let us know if you find more information.
Dig some more digging:
RangerWood 161 Swiss Alpine Club 150th Anniversary - 1.077.161.830
EvoWood 35 Swiss Alpine Club - 1.035.009.830
Thanks, added. :salute:
The numbers Carlo provided for the 161 are:
AF.1.077.161.830.C (RangerWood 161)
AF.1.077.161.830.P1.CAS (RangerWood 161.P1.CAS) without blade etching.
http://www.sakwiki.com/ti...angerWood+161#Identifiers (http://www.sakwiki.com/tiki-index.php?page=Wenger+RangerWood+161#Identifiers)
Yes,
I checked again, just to be sure, and the identifiers of the Ranger 161 do match (see attachment).
Karl have a look at the label of your Cyclist.
Does it say 1.035.009.830
or
1.035.009.830.P1.CAS?
I just saw this reference looking at the Weber's World page (see link below)
The shop unfortunately is only in German:
Ranger (http://www.sac-cas.ch/en/shop.html?q=aHR0cDovL2ZqMTA1cDA0LnRyZW5kaG9zdGluZy5jaC9pbmRleC5waHAvY2x1Yi1zaG9wL3Jhbmdlci1tZXNzZXItbWl0LXNhYy1sb2dvLmh0bWw%3D)
And the small one (http://www.sac-cas.ch/en/shop.html?q=aHR0cDovL2ZqMTA1cDA0LnRyZW5kaG9zdGluZy5jaC9pbmRleC5waHAvY2x1Yi1zaG9wL2V2by13b29kLW1lc3Nlci1taXQtc2FjLWxvZ28uaHRtbA%3D%3D), sorry I have no clue about Wenger models ;)
You can buy the Ranger 161.P1.CAS (see the wiki for the differences) and the special Cyclist also here
http://www.webers-world.com/product_info.php?info=p531_RangerWood-161-SAC.html&XTCsid=mormn2a27b6hf2issb2pc141n6
http://www.webers-world.com/product_info.php?info=p530_EvoWood-35-SAC.html&XTCsid=mormn2a27b6hf2issb2pc141n6Tomorrow afternoon I'm going by the shop, see if the guy has come up with any info on the Tactile 812.
To be honest, I'm not expecting much, meaning I'm not sure he'll have done any search but you never know. I may have to pick up a SI or two to give him an incentive :D
Let us know if you find more information.
Coincidence? I think not... Was in Delemont yesterday :D
WOW, the right picture just at the right time :)
Lovely knives shown :tu:Love the look of that Thuya. I think I said it before but the Ranger 55 with those scales would have been awesome. :dd:
Two knives: EvoWood 14 Walnut and Africa Evolution 14 wih Thuya
(http://forum.multitool.org/swiss-forum/any-love-for-wenger/?action=dlattach;attach=89697;image)
Coincidence? I think not... Was in Delemont yesterday :D
WOW, the right picture just at the right time :)
Seems like Wenger has an overstock of yellow RangerGrip scales.... :D
Don't know if it is an old news, but I just found listed some models for, as far as I understand, the Eastern market.
Had a quick look, but they seem just regular version, with the different scales.
Wenger RangerGrip 71.822 Gardener
1.077.071.822
(http://i.imgur.com/VJx9MZl.jpg)
The Wenger Gardener is no longer manufactured, even with other scales, I think it's from an old stock...
Lovely knives shown :tu:Beautiful picture NorthMan!
Two knives: EvoWood 14 Walnut and Africa Evolution 14 wih Thuya
Here are few shots of the RangerGrip 71.
Nothing really special about it, as it is just a Ranger 71 with Evogrip scales.
Here are few shots of the RangerGrip 71.
Nothing really special about it, as it is just a Ranger 71 with Evogrip scales.
How do you like the shears on it? I've been thinking of getting one of those for the same reason. Don't have any Rangers with shears. :D
I'm much more drawn to this one. Not a big fan of yellow.
http://www.swissmade.com/en/web/index.php?id=3827
The knife " Bye Bye Wenger " will arrive soon !I like that green colour very much. The tool load is very cool. A nice initiative you guys took :tu: (I think I've posted exactly the same thing before ? Maybe I should have got one too ? :ahhh :D :cheers: )
Do not forget : it's the last series manufactured by Wenger...
(http://i58.servimg.com/u/f58/17/57/54/47/20131210.jpg)
... Maybe I should have got one too ? :ahhh :D :cheers:
... Maybe I should have got one too ? :ahhh :D :cheers:
It's too late !!! All were sold in only 2 weeks and before manufacturing... Perhaps you will find one on ebay later if somebody needs money...
That BSA is nice! :tu:
I've got my eye on a few Wenger SAKs now. Won't be long before I pull the trigger on my first. I've never actually owned a wenger in all my years of owning various Voctorinox SAKs ever since the late 70s. I really like idea of getting an 84mm model like their Traveler.
I love also old Wengers !Its a beauty for sure, love the tang stamp Wenger used during this period :tu:
Before 1908, Wenger company name was "Coutellerie Suisse" with a 3 faces stamp on the tang of the blade...
And I found one (Carbon steel blades)...
On the 1908 "Wenger & Co" catalog this is a "model 505". I guess it dates between 1895 (new 3 faces stamp of "Coutellerie Suisse") and 1919 (begining of stainless steel).
It seems that Wenger has used this stamp on few knives until 1942.
Before restoration :
(http://www.jcfiguet.com/FCS/Mutitools/CoutSuisse2.jpg)
After a very important restoration :
(http://i56.servimg.com/u/f56/12/24/75/57/coutel13.jpg)
(http://i56.servimg.com/u/f56/12/24/75/57/coutel15.jpg)
Beautifull isn't it ?
Next time I will show you a Wenger Tahara 1920's with cross shield (red and yellow-white) on scales and the 3 faces stamp on blade when its restoration will be finished !
Poor Canoe. :cry: Looks like someone took a bite at it.
Nice find though. :D
Poor Canoe. :cry: Looks like someone took a bite at it.
Nice find though. :D
Fill the bite marks with clear epoxy, wait overnight for it to set hard, then flatten with wet and dry, finally polish smooth, and you'll hardly see the marks. I do this all the time with chips on knives I find and rejuvenate.
Poor Canoe. :cry: Looks like someone took a bite at it.
Nice find though. :D
Fill the bite marks with clear epoxy, wait overnight for it to set hard, then flatten with wet and dry, finally polish smooth, and you'll hardly see the marks. I do this all the time with chips on knives I find and rejuvenate.
Thanks for the suggestion, I'll try to see if I'll be able to fix the marks.
The above "Canoe" is a classic example of a "must buy", in any given condition.
However, I'm quite happy as the knife seems used very little, and all the tools are almost in mint condition.
I love also old Wengers !Its a beauty for sure, love the tang stamp Wenger used during this period :tu:
Before 1908, Wenger company name was "Coutellerie Suisse" with a 3 faces stamp on the tang of the blade...
And I found one (Carbon steel blades)...
On the 1908 "Wenger & Co" catalog this is a "model 505". I guess it dates between 1895 (new 3 faces stamp of "Coutellerie Suisse") and 1919 (begining of stainless steel).
It seems that Wenger has used this stamp on few knives until 1942.
Before restoration :
(http://www.jcfiguet.com/FCS/Mutitools/CoutSuisse2.jpg)
After a very important restoration :
(http://i56.servimg.com/u/f56/12/24/75/57/coutel13.jpg)
(http://i56.servimg.com/u/f56/12/24/75/57/coutel15.jpg)
Beautifull isn't it ?
Next time I will show you a Wenger Tahara 1920's with cross shield (red and yellow-white) on scales and the 3 faces stamp on blade when its restoration will be finished !
As promised, probably a "model 509 +" if I compare with photos from 1910's catalog...
(http://i56.servimg.com/u/f56/12/24/75/57/wenger26.jpg)
(http://i56.servimg.com/u/f56/12/24/75/57/wenger27.jpg)
I think I found the reason about the Basic line we had been discussing.
http://www.e-webtechnologies.com/sak/html/wenger.html
Have a look at the document in the middle of the page titled "Older Wenger Flyer"
(http://i.imgur.com/i6c4N7B.jpg)
I never saw the catalog numbers used there.
After a bit of searching I found this australian website
http://www.eliteofficesupplies.com.au/catalog2004/
with matching numbers.
My guess is that the Flyer above was used years back for the wiki.
That's the reason why either myself nor Karl could find any reference to those names.
Note also that the Classic line does not match with the Wenger's catalogs.
So I was correct in the assumption that the name came from counting the tools on the SAKs. Anyone know where James got that flyer from, Australia maybe? Never seen such numbers before. Possibly the AU distributor used their own names and numbers. :shrug:
Any model name on this? Is this from the 50's or 60's? A Wenger Delmont that snaps like a 91mm Victorinox.
(http://i289.photobucket.com/albums/ll211/gigahzfemtohz/wenger001_zps130f21f2.jpg) (http://s289.photobucket.com/user/gigahzfemtohz/media/wenger001_zps130f21f2.jpg.html)
(http://i289.photobucket.com/albums/ll211/gigahzfemtohz/wenger002_zps94b12c02.jpg) (http://s289.photobucket.com/user/gigahzfemtohz/media/wenger002_zps94b12c02.jpg.html)
Has anybody an idea about the number of this knife? Some old Wenger catalogs etc.?
It's about 97mm long (closed)
(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-3HrD63GZXls/UrcGL3n1T3I/AAAAAAAAI8w/ebuv-IzxaVs/s800/DSCN6511_r.jpg)
Has anybody an idea about the number of this knife? Some old Wenger catalogs etc.?
It's about 97mm long (closed)
(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-3HrD63GZXls/UrcGL3n1T3I/AAAAAAAAI8w/ebuv-IzxaVs/s800/DSCN6511_r.jpg)
Probably a 507 model (1916-1919), carbon steel blade, like new !
(http://i56.servimg.com/u/f56/12/24/75/57/modele10.jpg)
Probably a 507 model (1916-1919), carbon steel blade, like new !
(http://i56.servimg.com/u/f56/12/24/75/57/modele10.jpg)
That BSA is nice! :tu:
I've got my eye on a few Wenger SAKs now. Won't be long before I pull the trigger on my first. I've never actually owned a wenger in all my years of owning various Voctorinox SAKs ever since the late 70s. I really like idea of getting an 84mm model like their Traveler.
Didn't I buy SI's off of you? O.o
Has anybody an idea about the number of this knife? Some old Wenger catalogs etc.?
It's about 97mm long (closed)
I'm sorry, I have no information on this knife but I think it's an old one (1916's to 1919's?) because of the bail and the stamp...
I have 2 knives very similar with carbon steel blades and Tenite handle, probably from the 1950s based on the stamp, but no more information about them...
@jcfiguet
Many thanks for these interesting info. :salute:
@Carl
before jcfiguet's answer, I was about to send it to you :P
OK, clearing the backlog a bit. :ahhh
The Ducks, Europa Star Series, Wenger Nature Series (needs some more info), Wenger Angler (3 and 4 layer models) created.
Identifier for left handed EVO14 added to both pages, added identifier and names to the Skier without file and Survivor with nail file. (I stopped here as I ran into the Survivors mess, we'll need more info here, maybe even split them up ? - Carlo, if you wanna take over that part, it's all yours. ;) )
As always, if you notice any errors or have further info, let me know.
OK, clearing the backlog a bit. :ahhh
The Ducks, Europa Star Series, Wenger Nature Series (needs some more info), Wenger Angler (3 and 4 layer models) created.
Identifier for left handed EVO14 added to both pages, added identifier and names to the Skier without file and Survivor with nail file. (I stopped here as I ran into the Survivors mess, we'll need more info here, maybe even split them up ? - Carlo, if you wanna take over that part, it's all yours. ;) )
As always, if you notice any errors or have further info, let me know.
No problems, I can edit the Survivor page.
I'm not quite sure about the use of the name "Angler" for the two knives listed, as this same name was also used for the "Troller" in same markets (UK for sure).
I actually have one "Troller" bought from the UK (with the fly lure imprint on the front scale) and the box clearly says "Angler".
I also think that the "Pecheur"/Fisherman name has more to do with the series name, rather than with single knives.
The knife " Bye Bye Wenger " will arrive soon !
Do not forget : it's the last series manufactured by Wenger...
(http://i58.servimg.com/u/f58/17/57/54/47/20131210.jpg)
The knife " Bye Bye Wenger " will arrive soon !
Do not forget : it's the last series manufactured by Wenger...
(http://i58.servimg.com/u/f58/17/57/54/47/20131210.jpg)
Mine arrived just now.
Wow :drool: :drool: :drool:
Its great!! I feel very very fortunate.
Many thanks JC
:tu:
Does the Angler named Troller have the same identifiers as the ones listed in the wiki or a new one? Maybe add it under variations as "Troller with fly lure imprint was also sold as the Angler in some markets." with a picture of it next to it. :think:
Under Related Knives for the Anglers and other similar knives maybe add:
The fish hook sharpening file was a feature on a number of Wenger fishing-related knives, including:
- Angler (3 layer) (scissors)
- Angler (4 layer) (scaler)
- Catch and Release (scissors & pliers)
- Troller (scissors & scaler)
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Carlo, Angler may be a series name, but until we can come up with better names for the Angler (3- & 4-layers), those names will work to identify the knives.
Lucky to find a NIB Teton recently retail for an old price. I like this SAK configuration and this Wenger's variant is almost perfection:
(http://forum.multitool.org/swiss-forum/any-love-for-wenger/?action=dlattach;attach=90106;image)
I love it
(http://forum.multitool.org/swiss-forum/any-love-for-wenger/?action=dlattach;attach=89146;image)
...ho sorry !
So I guess that now the auction won't go unnoticed anymore :-\
...
...ho sorry !
So I guess that now the auction won't go unnoticed anymore :-\
...
I delete the link !
This thing came dirty. Dried bits of animal parts I thinkOuch! :o
Just opened the mail to get a used rangergrip 79. What a big bulking thing. This thing came dirty. Dried bits of animal parts I think
...ho sorry !
So I guess that now the auction won't go unnoticed anymore :-\
...
I delete the link !
No problems, I was able to secure the knife anyway!
A little bit of competition with a forum member, but I have to admit that this was an interesting knife.
I think I might know that competition.
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On the good side, the Snow storm is clearing and I made it to the post office. Thank you very much!! :cheers:
...
You're a very good friend to me! :drink:I think I might know that competition.
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On the good side, the Snow storm is clearing and I made it to the post office. Thank you very much!! :cheers:
...
I hope you will love it ! :climber:
And consider us as friends of the Swiss army knives, not as competitors :surrender: :drink:
You're a very good friend to me! :drink:I think I might know that competition.
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On the good side, the Snow storm is clearing and I made it to the post office. Thank you very much!! :cheers:
...
I hope you will love it ! :climber:
And consider us as friends of the Swiss army knives, not as competitors :surrender: :drink:
What a super job you did on this knife. I'm still not crazy about the inscription, but I've accepted it as a cultural thing and I love everything else about the knife. I'm very happy it has the non-Evo scales, not that Evo would have been bad, but I just like it this way more.
This knife is like the UnitedWoods Collection to me in saying good by to Wenger. :salute:
Somewhere in the mail I have a gift for Wenger SAK fans I think... right now though I'm backed up with stuff, snowed in, and I'm late on my Victorinox presents... but all in good time. This year I've adopted the lunar calendar so I have an extra month in 2013.
...ho sorry !
So I guess that now the auction won't go unnoticed anymore :-\
...
I delete the link !
No problems, I was able to secure the knife anyway!
A little bit of competition with a forum member, but I have to admit that this was an interesting knife.This thing came dirty. Dried bits of animal parts I thinkOuch! :o
Lucky to find a NIB Teton recently retail for an old price. I like this SAK configuration and this Wenger's variant is almost perfection:
(http://forum.multitool.org/swiss-forum/any-love-for-wenger/?action=dlattach;attach=90106;image)
Marius, can I use this picture for the wiki page?
We don't have a picture of the basic model. The one we're currently using is a stock picture hotlinked to the wengerNA site.
http://www.sakwiki.com/tiki-index.php?page=Teton
I don't know anything about Wenger, but I could be interested if there is still a model around with the metal framed magnifier. From what I see in the pictures, the scissors seem to be better than those on the Victorinox.
Any suggestions?
I don't know anything about Wenger, but I could be interested if there is still a model around with the metal framed magnifier. From what I see in the pictures, the scissors seem to be better than those on the Victorinox.
Any suggestions?
2 that spring to mind apart from the fully loaded 54 are the J574 and 23.
I have both Vic and wenger models that sport the mag layer. I find the wenger version more difficult in use. But I agree it does look better, plus the end doubles as a micro screwdriver!!
I don't know anything about Wenger, but I could be interested if there is still a model around with the metal framed magnifier. From what I see in the pictures, the scissors seem to be better than those on the Victorinox.
Any suggestions?
2 that spring to mind apart from the fully loaded 54 are the J574 and 23.
I have both Vic and wenger models that sport the mag layer. I find the wenger version more difficult in use. But I agree it does look better, plus the end doubles as a micro screwdriver!!
Thanks!
I did some searching on the net and the Wenger 23 :tu: it will probably be as soon as I can spend the money on it. :)
Do you happen to know how powerful the magnifier on the Wenger actually is? Is it similar to the Victorinox Explorer? And what do you think of the scissors compared to those of the Victorinox? :think:
I don't know anything about Wenger, but I could be interested if there is still a model around with the metal framed magnifier. From what I see in the pictures, the scissors seem to be better than those on the Victorinox.
Any suggestions?
2 that spring to mind apart from the fully loaded 54 are the J574 and 23.
I have both Vic and wenger models that sport the mag layer. I find the wenger version more difficult in use. But I agree it does look better, plus the end doubles as a micro screwdriver!!
Thanks!
I did some searching on the net and the Wenger 23 :tu: it will probably be as soon as I can spend the money on it. :)
Do you happen to know how powerful the magnifier on the Wenger actually is? Is it similar to the Victorinox Explorer? And what do you think of the scissors compared to those of the Victorinox? :think:
I don't know what the strength of the wenger magnifier is - but I don't actually like it that much to use, its very small. I much prefer the victorinox.
As for scissors, each to their own. But for me I prefer wenger. But be warned they are serrated, so if you're considering using for nails you'll need a file too - found on Wenger's not on many victorinox's.
Just to clarify, the magnifier of Wenger is primarily intended to start a fire (lile fire of scout camp) and the length of this tool has also allowed to add small flat screwdriver, so it's difficult to use the magnifier to enlarge details.
Wenger scissors are primarily made to cut nails, cotton thread, nylon thread or fishing thread. That is why there is also often a nail file on Wenger, whitch is necessary to use after cutting his nails with serrated scissors. You can also cut papers, but in this case the Victorinox scissors are easier to use.
This is part of the philosophical differences of use between the two brands...
Just to clarify, the magnifier of Wenger is primarily intended to start a fire (lile fire of scout camp) and the length of this tool has also allowed to add small flat screwdriver, so it's difficult to use the magnifier to enlarge details.
Wenger scissors are primarily made to cut nails, cotton thread, nylon thread or fishing thread. That is why there is also often a nail file on Wenger, whitch is necessary to use after cutting his nails with serrated scissors. You can also cut papers, but in this case the Victorinox scissors are easier to use.
This is part of the philosophical differences of use between the two brands...
Hi JC
Is that the official line from Wenger?? I have never heard or read that before. I'm not doubting what you say is true , like I previously mentioned its horrible to look through.
How fantastic that wenger actually produced a proper survival tool.
Fabulous.
Just to clarify, the magnifier of Wenger is primarily intended to start a fire (lile fire of scout camp) and the length of this tool has also allowed to add small flat screwdriver, so it's difficult to use the magnifier to enlarge details.
Wenger scissors are primarily made to cut nails, cotton thread, nylon thread or fishing thread. That is why there is also often a nail file on Wenger, whitch is necessary to use after cutting his nails with serrated scissors. You can also cut papers, but in this case the Victorinox scissors are easier to use.
This is part of the philosophical differences of use between the two brands...
Hi JC
Is that the official line from Wenger?? I have never heard or read that before. I'm not doubting what you say is true , like I previously mentioned its horrible to look through.
How fantastic that wenger actually produced a proper survival tool.
Fabulous.
Well, I'm not sure it's official line from Wenger, this is just based on logical findings and also on the use of Wenger knives :
During lot of years Wenger shifted to camping, scouting, etc. And the company has made numerous advertising and commercial communications in newspapers such as 'Boy's life', 'Backpacker', etc... For me it's therefore legitimate to ask the question "why a magnifying glass on a camping knife or survival knife?" or "why scissors on a fisherman knife?". Wenger also made very special tools such as the 'Swiss Business Tool' with scissors made to cut paper but not for nails !
I think Wenger tried to adapt tools to specific uses, as Victorinox tried to make standard and universal tools. It's just a personal idea !
Just to clarify, the magnifier of Wenger is primarily intended to start a fire (lile fire of scout camp) and the length of this tool has also allowed to add small flat screwdriver, so it's difficult to use the magnifier to enlarge details.
Wenger scissors are primarily made to cut nails, cotton thread, nylon thread or fishing thread. That is why there is also often a nail file on Wenger, whitch is necessary to use after cutting his nails with serrated scissors. You can also cut papers, but in this case the Victorinox scissors are easier to use.
This is part of the philosophical differences of use between the two brands...
Hi JC
Is that the official line from Wenger?? I have never heard or read that before. I'm not doubting what you say is true , like I previously mentioned its horrible to look through.
How fantastic that wenger actually produced a proper survival tool.
Fabulous.
Well, I'm not sure it's official line from Wenger, this is just based on logical findings and also on the use of Wenger knives :
During lot of years Wenger shifted to camping, scouting, etc. And the company has made numerous advertising and commercial communications in newspapers such as 'Boy's life', 'Backpacker', etc... For me it's therefore legitimate to ask the question "why a magnifying glass on a camping knife or survival knife?" or "why scissors on a fisherman knife?". Wenger also made very special tools such as the 'Swiss Business Tool' with scissors made to cut paper but not for nails !
I think Wenger tried to adapt tools to specific uses, as Victorinox tried to make standard and universal tools. It's just a personal idea !
At last, I have an Allie :ahhh :ahhh
It looks as though it's just the 2 of us JC. :salute:
So what do you call a Monarch with a locking blade?
So you really want to know?
I'm afraid it's not very exciting....
Wait for it...........
Regal
ya pretty boring..... but better than "Monarch with Packlock"
....If you put black scales on it then apparantly it's not a Regal anymore but a "Valiant with Packlock"
One more mystery solved for North America. Anti-climatic, but satisfying.
More SAK naming mysteries revealed at a later date.
:cheers:
So what do you call a Monarch with a locking blade?
So you really want to know?
I'm afraid it's not very exciting....
Wait for it...........
Regal
ya pretty boring..... but better than "Monarch with Packlock"
....If you put black scales on it then apparantly it's not a Regal anymore but a "Valiant with Packlock"
One more mystery solved for North America. Anti-climatic, but satisfying.
More SAK naming mysteries revealed at a later date.
:cheers:
Where did you find these names ?
@basilio
Do Wenger knives come with a 5 year warranty only, because that's what I read on the package? :o
Victorinox on the other hand comes with a lifelong warranty! :tu:
What's the story on this? :think:
I missed one on ebay there is a month or two ...
And I'm still sick for that !
I think I found it!
http://www.ebay.de/itm/Blancpain-WENGER-BERGEON-MINATHOR-Uhrmacher-Taschenmesser-watchmaker-knife-/251333869469?pt=DE_Sport_Camping_Outdoor_Campingmesser_werkzeug&hash=item3a84aa7f9d&nma=true&si=OUid3iqkEprDmePKdUEdmqxZHro%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557
Jean Claude was the same auction you saw?
I don't know anything about Wenger, but I could be interested if there is still a model around with the metal framed magnifier. From what I see in the pictures, the scissors seem to be better than those on the Victorinox.
Any suggestions?
2 that spring to mind apart from the fully loaded 54 are the J574 and 23.
I have both Vic and wenger models that sport the mag layer. I find the wenger version more difficult in use. But I agree it does look better, plus the end doubles as a micro screwdriver!!
Thanks!
I did some searching on the net and the Wenger 23 :tu: it will probably be as soon as I can spend the money on it. :)
Do you happen to know how powerful the magnifier on the Wenger actually is? Is it similar to the Victorinox Explorer? And what do you think of the scissors compared to those of the Victorinox? :think:
I don't know what the strength of the wenger magnifier is - but I don't actually like it that much to use, its very small. I much prefer the victorinox.
As for scissors, each to their own. But for me I prefer wenger. But be warned they are serrated, so if you're considering using for nails you'll need a file too - found on Wenger's not on many victorinox's.
Just to clarify, the magnifier of Wenger is primarily intended to start a fire (lile fire of scout camp) and the length of this tool has also allowed to add small flat screwdriver, so it's difficult to use the magnifier to enlarge details because this magnifier is too small.
Wenger scissors are primarily made to cut nails, cotton thread, nylon thread or fishing thread. That is why there is also often a nail file on Wenger (rarely on Victorinox). This nail file is often necessary to use after cutting his nails with serrated scissors. You can also cut papers, but in this case the Victorinox scissors are easier to use.
This is part of the "philosophical differences of use" between the two brands...
This is my latest purchase (quite cheap).
The knife is just a Ranger 05 (so nothing special).
However, I think you don't see this kind of package so often, so I took few pictures.
I missed one on ebay there is a month or two ...
And I'm still sick for that !
I think I found it!
http://www.ebay.de/itm/Blancpain-WENGER-BERGEON-MINATHOR-Uhrmacher-Taschenmesser-watchmaker-knife-/251333869469?pt=DE_Sport_Camping_Outdoor_Campingmesser_werkzeug&hash=item3a84aa7f9d&nma=true&si=OUid3iqkEprDmePKdUEdmqxZHro%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557
Jean Claude was the same auction you saw?
I forgot to mention that I just received an answer from the german seller.
He very kindly gave us permission to use the auction pictures for the wiki.
He also told me that unfortuantely he was not able to find the original pictures anymore.
They are from a US Catalog I have not posted yet. After the large Vic catalog I'm all scanned out for a while......
Regal
.....
....If you put black scales on it then apparantly it's not a Regal anymore but a "Valiant with Packlock"
.....
Where did you find these names ?
Here is an interesting find (in my opinion).Wow, love that blade shape
It is the oldest skier I have ever seen.
Note: old type Wenger shield on the blade, old profile main blade, old type can opener, 5 turns corkscrew and (very interesting) the skier imprint is upside down.
I think this knife is from before 1977, but I ask North Man to give a better date estimate.
Oh...almost forgot, won the auction for $ 4 and something plus shipment!
Here is an interesting find (in my opinion).Wow, love that blade shape
It is the oldest skier I have ever seen.
Note: old type Wenger shield on the blade, old profile main blade, old type can opener, 5 turns corkscrew and (very interesting) the skier imprint is upside down.
I think this knife is from before 1977, but I ask North Man to give a better date estimate.
Oh...almost forgot, won the auction for $ 4 and something plus shipment!
I don't think the skier is upside down, he is actually correct on this one. That is how I always see up/down, left/right because its the way you hold it in front of yourself (if you are right-handed).
Yup, that is how I understood you. I was referring to the older implying that the newer is "wrong".Here is an interesting find (in my opinion).Wow, love that blade shape
It is the oldest skier I have ever seen.
Note: old type Wenger shield on the blade, old profile main blade, old type can opener, 5 turns corkscrew and (very interesting) the skier imprint is upside down.
I think this knife is from before 1977, but I ask North Man to give a better date estimate.
Oh...almost forgot, won the auction for $ 4 and something plus shipment!
I don't think the skier is upside down, he is actually correct on this one. That is how I always see up/down, left/right because its the way you hold it in front of yourself (if you are right-handed).
Yes, agree.
I used the word upside-down because I was comparing directly to the newer imprint.
I agree with you that the old style imprint is much more suggestive in this position, than the newer one.
(sorry for the poor quality, but this was the only picture I had handy)
Here is an interesting find (in my opinion).
It is the oldest skier I have ever seen.
Note: old type Wenger shield on the blade, old profile main blade, old type can opener, 5 turns corkscrew and (very interesting) the skier imprint is upside down.
I think this knife is from before 1977, but I ask North Man to give a better date estimate.
Oh...almost forgot, won the auction for $ 4 and something plus shipment!
Here is an interesting find (in my opinion).
It is the oldest skier I have ever seen.
Note: old type Wenger shield on the blade, old profile main blade, old type can opener, 5 turns corkscrew and (very interesting) the skier imprint is upside down.
I think this knife is from before 1977, but I ask North Man to give a better date estimate.
Oh...almost forgot, won the auction for $ 4 and something plus shipment!
Here is an interesting find (in my opinion).
It is the oldest skier I have ever seen.
Note: old type Wenger shield on the blade, old profile main blade, old type can opener, 5 turns corkscrew and (very interesting) the skier imprint is upside down.
I think this knife is from before 1977, but I ask North Man to give a better date estimate.
Oh...almost forgot, won the auction for $ 4 and something plus shipment!
This knife also tell me that it was introduced with the scraper tool and embossed icon from the beginning. It looks so. After 1976 the can opener and flat screwdriver started to change side. We get the chain and new emblem + more. It looked very different after 1976/78.
As for the topic title "Any love for Wenger", I'd love to be able to find an affordable Wenger Soldier!
In the UK I've found many website's advertising them, trouble is when I click to buy I find out that they are "out of stock". :ahhh
http://www.uttings.co.uk/p104910-wenger-soldier-pocket-knife-soldier/
http://www.shop4wenger.co.uk/swiss_army_knives_soldier.html
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Wenger-Solidier-Swiss-Army-Knife/dp/B000AR7AOW
http://www.questhardware.co.uk/wenger-soldier-knife.html
http://www.outdoor365.co.uk/swiss-army-knives-c44/wenger-soldier-swiss-army-knife-p268
http://www.surplusplus.co.uk/acatalog/info_SOLDIER.html
The only one's I've found available are for pick up only & the closest one to me is a 210 mile round trip.
http://www.gooutdoors.co.uk/leatherman-soldier-equipment-p138928
As for the topic title "Any love for Wenger", I'd love to be able to find an affordable Wenger Soldier!
In the UK I've found many website's advertising them, trouble is when I click to buy I find out that they are "out of stock". :ahhh
http://www.uttings.co.uk/p104910-wenger-soldier-pocket-knife-soldier/
http://www.shop4wenger.co.uk/swiss_army_knives_soldier.html
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Wenger-Solidier-Swiss-Army-Knife/dp/B000AR7AOW
http://www.questhardware.co.uk/wenger-soldier-knife.html
http://www.outdoor365.co.uk/swiss-army-knives-c44/wenger-soldier-swiss-army-knife-p268
http://www.surplusplus.co.uk/acatalog/info_SOLDIER.html
The only one's I've found available are for pick up only & the closest one to me is a 210 mile round trip.
http://www.gooutdoors.co.uk/leatherman-soldier-equipment-p138928
That one is a real beauty of a Wenger. :drool: :drool: :drool:Here is an interesting find (in my opinion).
It is the oldest skier I have ever seen.
Note: old type Wenger shield on the blade, old profile main blade, old type can opener, 5 turns corkscrew and (very interesting) the skier imprint is upside down.
I think this knife is from before 1977, but I ask North Man to give a better date estimate.
Oh...almost forgot, won the auction for $ 4 and something plus shipment!
It is beautiful! Wow! and i believe it to be from 1975-76 the year it was introduced :) The year 1975 is special with Wenger. It was the year the knives was changed on many of the tools and design.
This knife also tell me that it was introduced with the scraper tool and embossed icon from the beginning. It looks so. After 1976 the can opener and flat screwdriver started to change side. We get the chain and new emblem + more. It looked very different after 1976/78.
I'm not sure but I think in 1975 the large blade changed from "spear blade" to "drop point blade"...
...
Here is some of the timeline i am working on
http://www.sakhome.com/305357088
This one perhaps? http://www.silvermans.co.uk/tabid/64/Default.aspx?Search=wenger
no prior experience with them etc etc.
I've just had an email from Silvermans.
"I have been advised that it doesnt have the hollow rivet but does have a
lanyard loop at one end, we will update the photograph on the website as it
is an old picture."
After that I'm not sure what it is they're selling ???
This one perhaps? http://www.silvermans.co.uk/tabid/64/Default.aspx?Search=wenger
no prior experience with them etc etc.
I've just had an email from Silvermans.
"I have been advised that it doesnt have the hollow rivet but does have a
lanyard loop at one end, we will update the photograph on the website as it
is an old picture."
After that I'm not sure what it is they're selling ???
This one perhaps? http://www.silvermans.co.uk/tabid/64/Default.aspx?Search=wenger
no prior experience with them etc etc.
I've just had an email from Silvermans.
"I have been advised that it doesnt have the hollow rivet but does have a
lanyard loop at one end, we will update the photograph on the website as it
is an old picture."
After that I'm not sure what it is they're selling ???
Eventually drop me a PM.
I think I can find one from a shop here, but if I remembered correctly the asking price was between € 30 and € 40, so you would better look for cheaper options.
For a guenine soldier's knife, I can understand the price, even more ! Depending on the rarity of vintages, but for a civilian "soldier knife", 30 € is too expensive!
This one perhaps? http://www.silvermans.co.uk/tabid/64/Default.aspx?Search=wenger
no prior experience with them etc etc.
I've just had an email from Silvermans.
"I have been advised that it doesnt have the hollow rivet but does have a
lanyard loop at one end, we will update the photograph on the website as it
is an old picture."
After that I'm not sure what it is they're selling ???
For your information : This is the last "Standard Issue" made by Wenger in 2012... Without Cross shield...
(http://www.couteaux-du-soldat-suisse.ch/J02/media/com_hikashop/upload/swiss_army_70.jpg)
...
This one perhaps? http://www.silvermans.co.uk/tabid/64/Default.aspx?Search=wenger
no prior experience with them etc etc.
I was weak; this beauty made me over pay.
King Arthur
I was weak; this beauty made me over pay.
King Arthur
I was weak; this beauty made me over pay.
King Arthur
My new knifes
I found a 2013 catalog from the Germany company Herbertz, a knife company from Solingen which also distributes other knives brands.That looks very interesting!
Wenger is one of those.
I found in their 2013 catalog two interesting models I was not aware.
The first is a Evowood 14 with the scales not in walnut but pear (if I translates correctly Birnenholz).
The second is a Junior model with EvoWood scales, named JuniorWood 11.
The catalog is interesting because it has also the three Ranger models with orange scales.
I'll try to scan it all.
My new knifesYa that Computer Wiz is definetly a bit hard to come by.
I found a 2013 catalog from the Germany company Herbertz, a knife company from Solingen which also distributes other knives brands.
Wenger is one of those.
I found in their 2013 catalog two interesting models I was not aware.
The first is a Evowood 14 with the scales not in walnut but pear (if I translates correctly Birnenholz).
The second is a Junior model with EvoWood scales, named JuniorWood 11.
The catalog is interesting because it has also the three Ranger models with orange scales.
I'll try to scan it all.
Interesting find! Is the pear wood model actually available?
.... Naming wood is like naming fish, once they process it they feel they can call it anything as there are so many varieties ....
I found a 2013 catalog from the Germany company Herbertz, a knife company from Solingen which also distributes other knives brands.
Wenger is one of those.
I found in their 2013 catalog two interesting models I was not aware.
The first is a Evowood 14 with the scales not in walnut but pear (if I translates correctly Birnenholz).
My EvoWood 14 (bottom) is so light colored I was wondering if it might be poplar or birch.. Maybe I got one of the pear woods by mistake.From the look of that picture I'd say there is like a 90% chance that you have the a Pear wood example. There are some though that are lighter/whiter that than one you show. The one you have though looks pretty much identical to the one in the catalog photo in terms of tone once accounting for the light.
My EvoWood 14 (bottom) is so light colored I was wondering if it might be poplar or birch.. Maybe I got one of the pear woods by mistake.From the look of that picture I'd say there is like a 90% chance that you have the a Pear wood example. There are some though that are lighter/whiter that than one you show. The one you have though looks pretty much identical to the one in the catalog photo in terms of tone once accounting for the light.
My EvoWood 14 (bottom) is so light colored I was wondering if it might be poplar or birch.. Maybe I got one of the pear woods by mistake.Looks like the top knife scales are cut from the heart wood, and the bottom knife scales are cut from the sap wood. In some cuts you can see both the heart wood and the sap wood, it almost looks like two seperate pieces of wood glued together the contrast is so great! See my walnut opinel here one post from the bottom. Good that you've got one of each, Walnut is a great wood!
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My EvoWood 14 (bottom) is so light colored I was wondering if it might be poplar or birch.. Maybe I got one of the pear woods by mistake.From the look of that picture I'd say there is like a 90% chance that you have the a Pear wood example. There are some though that are lighter/whiter that than one you show. The one you have though looks pretty much identical to the one in the catalog photo in terms of tone once accounting for the light.
I should be getting the pear model very soon.
I don't have any 85mm walnut to compare, but I do have the RangerWood SAC, so that should be enough.
I think that it is not only a matter of different color.
If the woods were different, you should be able to check by inspection.
And, of course, the catalog numbers are different, if your came in a box
Edit: have now the knife in my hands.
Will try to post later few pictures.
The label reads: EvoWood Poirier 14, with identifier 1.14.09.833
production date is: 11 2011
Over it there is an additional label with the identifier 114093299 we already saw in the german catalog.
At quick inspection, I can tell you that my model does not have the "wood lip missing below the corkscrew" as shown by Marius in the first picture here
http://forum.multitool.org/index.php?topic=21658.msg788402;topicseen#msg788402
.....That number applies to the Walnut scales, but from the picture it looks miss numbered or miss recorded. Definetly check the wood grain with another EvoWood.
The number on mine is: 1014009830. From my spread sheet; the box is buried away.
.....That number applies to the Walnut scales, but from the picture it looks miss numbered or miss recorded. Definetly check the wood grain with another EvoWood.
The number on mine is: 1014009830. From my spread sheet; the box is buried away.
Karl, if you got a pear EvoWood by mistake, great! The pear S14s seem so much rarer than the regular walnut ones. Can you take some photos in daylight and post larger versions of the pear suspect? I got some walnut EvoWoods myself that are very light tone but they won't be mistaken for pear wood.Nice yellow craftsman :cheers:
Here is one such lighter finished EvoWood of mine:
(http://forum.multitool.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=21658.0;attach=61736;image)
Nice yellow craftsman :cheers:
Ho Yes, the little boy is so funny !
:cheers:
These don't appear in the Wenger 2013 catalog from Switzerland, must have been a special run for the German distributor. However, since the manufacture date on the boxes lists these as 2011 models, we might need to look at earlier catalogs.
Nice Young Fisherman! First I've seen. :salute:
Has anyone come up with the Young Hunter?
Nice Young Fisherman! First I've seen. :salute:
Has anyone come up with the Young Hunter?
Absolutely! Roger Remund w/the 108mm Jung Jaeger a few years ago.
An oldie but I like it :)
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-sSnllZdSh4M/UvTfSPRZz6I/AAAAAAAAGG4/Bp06R9yKfQI/w1313-h985-no/IMAGE_120.jpg)
(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-Da6kyT0yQFs/UvTfS3ZIcAI/AAAAAAAAGHE/pFxCUVV_MNc/w1313-h985-no/IMAGE_121.jpg)
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/LDw3Q0nOwHk6dzFbf0rShfDWkSwM4cLHL2k6uwiv6tw=w1313-h985-no)
Got picked it up so not cleaned yet
An oldie but I like it :)That's a beautiful specimen you have there :drool: It's in pretty great shape for its age.
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-sSnllZdSh4M/UvTfSPRZz6I/AAAAAAAAGG4/Bp06R9yKfQI/w1313-h985-no/IMAGE_120.jpg)
(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-Da6kyT0yQFs/UvTfS3ZIcAI/AAAAAAAAGHE/pFxCUVV_MNc/w1313-h985-no/IMAGE_121.jpg)
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/LDw3Q0nOwHk6dzFbf0rShfDWkSwM4cLHL2k6uwiv6tw=w1313-h985-no)
Got picked it up so not cleaned yet
An oldie but I like it :)That's a beautiful specimen you have there :drool: It's in pretty great shape for its age.
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-sSnllZdSh4M/UvTfSPRZz6I/AAAAAAAAGG4/Bp06R9yKfQI/w1313-h985-no/IMAGE_120.jpg)
(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-Da6kyT0yQFs/UvTfS3ZIcAI/AAAAAAAAGHE/pFxCUVV_MNc/w1313-h985-no/IMAGE_121.jpg)
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/LDw3Q0nOwHk6dzFbf0rShfDWkSwM4cLHL2k6uwiv6tw=w1313-h985-no)
Got picked it up so not cleaned yet
An oldie but I like it :)
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-sSnllZdSh4M/UvTfSPRZz6I/AAAAAAAAGG4/Bp06R9yKfQI/w1313-h985-no/IMAGE_120.jpg)
(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-Da6kyT0yQFs/UvTfS3ZIcAI/AAAAAAAAGHE/pFxCUVV_MNc/w1313-h985-no/IMAGE_121.jpg)
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/LDw3Q0nOwHk6dzFbf0rShfDWkSwM4cLHL2k6uwiv6tw=w1313-h985-no)
Got picked it up so not cleaned yet
An oldie but I like it :)+1 VERY nice one!Nice one!
(not quoting again all the pictures :P)
That's a new one to me. :think:I posted identifier on the wiki, off the top of my head that seems right.
Identifier seems to be 15639311.
Quite tempted to get an evowood s557, any one care to give me a :pok:
They look really good, quite chunky but compact at the same time.
That's a new one to me. :think:I posted identifier on the wiki, off the top of my head that seems right.
Identifier seems to be 15639311.
I think it would be better if Junior series had 1 page, and the knives just linked to their non Junior versions, seems a waste and more complicated to make a whole page just because they rounded the tip of the blade. That's really a variation as it does not add or remove any tools. I like trying to simplify all these 'models'. Of course if there is a Junior without a counterpart then it would get it's own page.That's a new one to me. :think:I posted identifier on the wiki, off the top of my head that seems right.
Identifier seems to be 15639311.
Yes, that's it. We'll need a Page for it in the Junior series. I'll make one if no one beats me to it. :salute:
I think it would be better if Junior series had 1 page, and the knives just linked to their non Junior versions, seems a waste and more complicated to make a whole page just because they rounded the tip of the blade. That's really a variation as it does not add or remove any tools. I like trying to simplify all these 'models'. Of course if there is a Junior without a counterpart then it would get it's own page.That's a new one to me. :think:I posted identifier on the wiki, off the top of my head that seems right.
Identifier seems to be 15639311.
Yes, that's it. We'll need a Page for it in the Junior series. I'll make one if no one beats me to it. :salute:
How should the Wiki handle the Delemont Collection? As a series under the Vic's?That's a good question. Since they cover various frame sizes it's a bit more challenging, but you can see there is already a disagreement on Series so this could get tricky.
How should the Wiki handle the Delemont Collection? As a series under the Vic's?
How should the Wiki handle the Delemont Collection? As a series under the Vic's?
The Delemonts are basically an amalgamation of Wenger and Victorinox features. I'm planning to list them separately under that name in my spread sheet, to avoid confusion with the other two sets of knives, and to better keep track of which ones I have. Maybe we should do something similar in the wiki.
Yes, that's it. We'll need a Page for it in the Junior series. I'll make one if no one beats me to it. :salute:
True for the simple models, but on something like the 18 it gets more complicated. We already have 7 versions there (12 variations ) on the evo alone, not counting Classic, Basic, Handyman, ... Just adding more to the same page gets confusing, hard to find and contraproductive. If you're new to SAKs and google search for a Wenger Junior 06 and get a link to some Evo 18, you won't even consider it. I think it's better to have more pages and link the similar ones than to overcrowd a single one. It's not like we have a lack of storage space in the wiki.
Two Ranger with pruning blade. Ranger 73 Electrcian and Ranger 69
The Ranger 69 seems to be uncommon ??? at least to me ::)
(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-HvMxgnMm6Po/UvYO9BVORJI/AAAAAAAAJI0/EYtxbC3uVpc/s800/DSCN7408_r.jpg)
(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-gz25jFx3KU0/UvYPA_aHpkI/AAAAAAAAJJI/P9_pXbHbCgw/s800/DSCN7380_r.jpg)
Two Ranger with pruning blade. Ranger 73 Electrcian and Ranger 69
The Ranger 69 seems to be uncommon ??? at least to me ::)
Nice!!
I'm guessing the 69 is basically just the 73 without the plier layer.
May I ask where you got it from?
I emailed a Wenger shop, they have never heard of it - but I'm assuming it is indeed a genuine factory model.
You're a lucky guy :tu:
How should the Wiki handle the Delemont Collection? As a series under the Vic's?That's a good question. Since they cover various frame sizes it's a bit more challenging, but you can see there is already a disagreement on Series so this could get tricky.
We could just extend, the Vic frame-sizes, or make them almost like a new brand. Whatever we do might need to change over time as Vic changes how they classify these models. I would start slow with a Delemont Series listing page, and see where Vic is going to take this line.
Hopefully there will be a public catalog soon with a bit more precise information. I notice the disclaimer on the bottom of the existing pages notes that digital manipulation is involved. I'm just surprised what they showed at SHOT is not in the catalog, and the huge mistake on the Ranger reamers, the overlap in the blade and caplifter incorrect so they could show the stamp... obviously this was very rushed.
I have added a place holder in the Victorinox Menu on the right which I think reflects what most people think should be the initial organization, keeping the Delemont Collection as a special line.How should the Wiki handle the Delemont Collection? As a series under the Vic's?
The Delemonts are basically an amalgamation of Wenger and Victorinox features. I'm planning to list them separately under that name in my spread sheet, to avoid confusion with the other two sets of knives, and to better keep track of which ones I have. Maybe we should do something similar in the wiki.
Yes, I was discussing with Nikola about this, and I think that keeping the Delémont series separated would be the best solution.
Yes, that's it. We'll need a Page for it in the Junior series. I'll make one if no one beats me to it. :salute:
I think that also the JuniorWood 11 should be added (it was shown on the Herbertz catalog posted few pages back).True for the simple models, but on something like the 18 it gets more complicated. We already have 7 versions there (12 variations ) on the evo alone, not counting Classic, Basic, Handyman, ... Just adding more to the same page gets confusing, hard to find and contraproductive. If you're new to SAKs and google search for a Wenger Junior 06 and get a link to some Evo 18, you won't even consider it. I think it's better to have more pages and link the similar ones than to overcrowd a single one. It's not like we have a lack of storage space in the wiki.
I also think that the current wiki 85mm index layout is fine and that having different pages for specific series would be easier for the reader.
For sure it took a lot of work by quite few people to implement all the series (Junior, Classic, Basic, Security) and it would be a pity if they were removed.
I have added a place holder in the Victorinox Menu on the right which I think reflects what most people think should be the initial organization, keeping the Delemont Collection as a special line.
Nice I just added 2008 from Europe to the list
:salute:Nice I just added 2008 from Europe to the list
Yes, thanks.
I had the 2008 catalog, but I downloaded it from the mulitool-museum website, and it has watermarks on every page, so I couldn't upload it.
There is still a big "gap" on european catalogs from the mid 90's to 2004. Hope I will be able to find more of them in the future.
..... now if we could see your Precise 1990 catalog ..... :whistle:
A quick comparo with other 85mm EvoWoods. The pear is at the top left of the photos. United Woods and SAC present as well.Nice collection! :drool: really like the evowood, glad that Victorinox are keeping it going!
A quick comparo with other 85mm EvoWoods. The pear is at the top left of the photos. United Woods and SAC present as well.
A quick comparo with other 85mm EvoWoods. The pear is at the top left of the photos. United Woods and SAC present as well.
A quick comparo with other 85mm EvoWoods. The pear is at the top left of the photos. United Woods and SAC present as well.
What's the model four in from the left? Three layers, middle layer inline Philips and wrench.
Great collection of Evowoods! :tu:Looks like olive wood. My evowood 10 is very dark, the s557 is very light, I think that they stopped staining the wood, the s557 also had a rough finish. This is the early sales description:
My light colored one doesn't look like that pear wood. Maybe it is an odd shade of walnut; or maybe they're using anything handy. Its an Evowood 14; what is your light colored one? (third from right)
Great collection of Evowoods! :tu:
My light colored one doesn't look like that pear wood. Maybe it is an odd shade of walnut; or maybe they're using anything handy. Its an Evowood 14; what is your light colored one? (third from right)
Quite tempted to get an evowood s557, any one care to give me a :pok:
Here you go. :pok: :pok: :pok: Go for it! I have a standard S557, and it's a great SAK. You won't de disappointed! And if you are, it's Kirky's fault.....
Those are some nice 17 variations. :cheers:
Can't provide you with more info on them sadly. But I do have a question. Does the first one with the 2D phillips have a locking bottle opener? Maybe early 1980's?
A quick comparo with other 85mm EvoWoods. The pear is at the top left of the photos. United Woods and SAC present as well.Amazing beautiful EvoWood collection.
Very nice models. I sure would have liked if they had produced more of these. Such great obvious configurations you would think we would see more of these. :cheers:Those are some nice 17 variations. :cheers:
Can't provide you with more info on them sadly. But I do have a question. Does the first one with the 2D phillips have a locking bottle opener? Maybe early 1980's?
No, the first one has not a locking bottle opener (and no patented), so I think it's early 1982
Is any body who know these 2 knives ?
It seems they are not referenced on the Wiki nor in wenger catalogs...
This one :
(http://www.jcfiguet.com/FCS/Mutitools/à identifier-1a.JPG)
(http://www.jcfiguet.com/FCS/Mutitools/à identifier-2a.JPG)
And this one:
(http://www.jcfiguet.com/FCS/Mutitools/à identifier-1b.JPG)
(http://www.jcfiguet.com/FCS/Mutitools/à identifier-2b.JPG)
Great collection of Evowoods! :tu:
My light colored one doesn't look like that pear wood. Maybe it is an odd shade of walnut; or maybe they're using anything handy. Its an Evowood 14; what is your light colored one? (third from right)
Third one from the right of the photo is the one in Olive wood from United Woods.
:cheers:
Thanks enki. Now I remember the thread. Thats when you called me Steve. :pok: :D
Its Mr. Spaulding to you! :P
Thanks enki. Now I remember the thread. Thats when you called me Steve. :pok: :D
Its Mr. Spaulding to you! :P
You should see what he calls you when you're not around! :sa:
Haven't pulled this old Wenger out in a while.That's a great Knife. I missed it some how in the original thread. :drool:
I remember I started a thread on it, but don't remember what was said besides it is a bit rare and probably from around the 50's (i think). Any and all info including a value would be great! Thanks everyone.
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Haven't pulled this old Wenger out in a while.That's a great Knife. I missed it some how in the original thread. :drool:
I remember I started a thread on it, but don't remember what was said besides it is a bit rare and probably from around the 50's (i think). Any and all info including a value would be great! Thanks everyone.
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That's a keeper for sure.Haven't pulled this old Wenger out in a while.That's a great Knife. I missed it some how in the original thread. :drool:
I remember I started a thread on it, but don't remember what was said besides it is a bit rare and probably from around the 50's (i think). Any and all info including a value would be great! Thanks everyone.
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Thanks. I got it from some guy off craigslist. I don't remember exactly what I paid, but I want to say it was $20 or $25. :tu: I will probably never get rid of it.
Thanks enki. Now I remember the thread. Thats when you called me Steve. :pok: :D
Its Mr. Spaulding to you! :P
You should see what he calls you when you're not around! :sa:
Oh great now i'm paranoid! :P
Those are some nice 17 variations. :cheers:
Can't provide you with more info on them sadly. But I do have a question. Does the first one with the 2D phillips have a locking bottle opener? Maybe early 1980's?
An wenger old boy I found today ... the build quality is stunning the main blade is 4mm thick at the tangYou really do find some old treasures. I'd leave this one as it is, as you say 'the patina is perfect' :tu:
(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/lRhCFo1nrKMk6YNX9aq6skLiDhBQZmynF2PXy2kc1bo=w924-h693-no)
The point has gone but I can sort that
(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-LOVMQzWyzgQ/Uv-ZZnI0-NI/AAAAAAAAGIw/NlQrcOJcSsk/w924-h693-no/IMAGE_130.jpg)
The patina is perfect :)
(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-_A3phwjGZzU/Uv-ZaxThiLI/AAAAAAAAGI8/IJmgjhklEtA/w924-h693-no/IMAGE_131.jpg)
Big an small blade are stamped
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The third blade is a nail file which you will need after trying to open this thing as for closing it snaps shut like a rat trap :) but that will be the always popular two backsprings are better than one option :)
(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-WHqyS-Fy1YY/Uv-Z_4kBCZI/AAAAAAAAGJY/hexy93aZy84/w922-h1229-no/IMAGE_135.jpg)
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-Zk2aSKqxTlw/Uv-aBmBDMKI/AAAAAAAAGJg/jUXBpGVPrLg/w922-h1229-no/IMAGE_136.jpg)
It may not look much but it is a stunner :)
You really do find some old treasures. I'd leave this one as it is, as you say 'the patina is perfect' :tu:
Dark stained walnut 10, middle is pear 17, natural unstained walnut s557. Fancy getting the 14 after pay day :tu:Nice collection.
I saw that the wiki page was recently edited with the Pear wood modelThe writing is not that clear; I think Marduk was try to say that in 2011 (i.e. 'the 2011 models') were made for the French market, and then later made available in Germany. He was not saying 2011 was the unit number of the knife. We'll let him clarify, and fix up the page. It would be interesting to know where he got the information on the French market, but it makes sense so I'm inclined to think it's good info at this point.
http://www.sakwiki.com/tiki-index.php?page=EVO+14
But are the informations about the French market confirmed?
I also think that 2011 was the year of production, not the unit number.
I'm not criticizing, just asking because I couldn't find more informations apart from the entry in the Herbertz catalog.
Dark stained walnut 10, middle is pear 17, natural unstained walnut s557. Fancy getting the 14 after pay day :tu:
Dark stained walnut 10, middle is pear 17, natural unstained walnut s557. Fancy getting the 14 after pay day :tu:
Sorry guys, the pear evowood is 14 not 17, my mistake! Did they only do the 14 in pear?
I saw that the wiki page was recently edited with the Pear wood modelThe writing is not that clear; I think Marduk was try to say that in 2011 (i.e. 'the 2011 models') were made for the French market, and then later made available in Germany. He was not saying 2011 was the unit number of the knife. We'll let him clarify, and fix up the page. It would be interesting to know where he got the information on the French market, but it makes sense so I'm inclined to think it's good info at this point.
http://www.sakwiki.com/tiki-index.php?page=EVO+14
But are the informations about the French market confirmed?
I also think that 2011 was the year of production, not the unit number.
I'm not criticizing, just asking because I couldn't find more informations apart from the entry in the Herbertz catalog.
As noted, 2011 meant year, not model. I corrected the wiki. Sorry for my sloppy entry.
As for the French market, I have seen several boxes w/the EvoWood 14 Pear wood. They all desribe the model as "Poirier" on the lid. This appears on boxes sold on German internet sites. Since Germany is the next largest market outside North America, why did Wenger print the knife's description in French, not German unless it was originally intended for France.
Carlo--You may very well be right. The wiki is not a place for assumptions, but for facts. And a few examples are not enough to draw definitive conclusions. I have amended the wiki. Does anyone know anything else about the this model? Has anyone seen it on any national markets other than France & Germany? Why are the boxes dated 2011? Anyone seen any dated later or earlier? We would like to hear from as many as possible of those who have purchases these Pear wood models.Mine says Poirier on the box, was bought from German Amazon, where is the date found?
Martin,
Beautiful Lithos! :tu:
On mine example the date can be barely seen under the german label
Mine says Poirier on the box, was bought from German Amazon, where is the date found?
Had to peel the label back, also 2011.Martin,
Beautiful Lithos! :tu:
Yes, very nice knives!On mine example the date can be barely seen under the german label
Mine says Poirier on the box, was bought from German Amazon, where is the date found?
(http://i.imgur.com/CIR9MtF.jpg)
Excellent pictures of very nice additions, Martin. May we borrow them for the wiki? (You knew I'd ask that. ;) )
Must have :whistle: :D
EvoGrip™ Swiss Clipper
Something for the Wenger series in the wiki:
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Something for the Wenger series in the wiki:
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OK like this? http://www.sakwiki.com/tiki-index.php?page=Wenger+Savana
I totally agree :2tu: For that very reason I was saying "must-have" :whistle: :DMust have :whistle: :D
EvoGrip™ Swiss Clipper
+1
Good to see there will be a Delémont version, best clipper I ever had. It lives on my travel bag and a little beat up, but some love there for sure. Mine is AT version so I always have it. :tu:
(have to apologize again for my really poor iPad camera)
I ordered it from this place in the Czech Republic http://outdoor.online-sport.cz/noze-wenger/rangergrip-serie/wenger-rangergrip-88-rescue/ (the communication and transaction with them was excellent). I paid a total of $146 with shipping (the shipping hiked up the price a bit. It was around $20-$25), though the price has gone up and down quite a lot since I bought it. It was by far the cheapest place I could find, though right after my purchase the price went up. As I write this I checked again, and it's gone down to (almost) what I paid for it. I was tempted to get the rangergrip 90, because well, it's just easier to get, but the lack of the screwdriver/cap lifter, and half-sized metal saw/file made me wait for the 88. Hope this helps.
PS: Si tienes alguna otra duda ó pregunta mándame un mensaje.
Nice Wenger Professional 1.71.21 in Blue for a change :)
Blade stamped 81
(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-kJ8OAtlENR4/UxuIf7wLxuI/AAAAAAAAGZ4/lky9FG3jV0Y/s800/IMAGE_168.jpg)
(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-Q8diQuY5Nwk/UxuIiBDJlaI/AAAAAAAAGYs/V7iHpVr7oYs/s1024/IMAGE_169.jpg)
(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-wUyTLSiaMJw/UxuIklXv8QI/AAAAAAAAGaA/B4HgGCRou1E/s800/IMAGE_170.jpg)
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-E6yv_Qch5jk/UxuImoYpMwI/AAAAAAAAGY8/E4R7qVH7WfY/s800/IMAGE_171.jpg)
Here`s a patriotic wenger knife from WWI.
(http://de.myalbum.com/GroteFoto-GROA8YBI.jpg)
(http://de.myalbum.com/GroteFoto-VQAPP8AV.jpg)
Could someone tell me who the guys are on the scale? One is marked with George V, the guy on the right could be nikolaus II.
Here`s a patriotic wenger knife from WWI.
(http://de.myalbum.com/GroteFoto-GROA8YBI.jpg)
(http://de.myalbum.com/GroteFoto-VQAPP8AV.jpg)
Could someone tell me who the guys are on the scale? One is marked with George V, the guy on the right could be nikolaus II.
Nice find! At a guess the one in the middle might be Georges Clemenceau, president of France.
Here`s a patriotic wenger knife from WWI.
(http://de.myalbum.com/GroteFoto-GROA8YBI.jpg)
(http://de.myalbum.com/GroteFoto-VQAPP8AV.jpg)
Could someone tell me who the guys are on the scale? One is marked with George V, the guy on the right could be nikolaus II.
Nice find! At a guess the one in the middle might be Georges Clemenceau, president of France.
Actually I think it's Raymond Poincare (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raymond_Poincar%C3%A9). Whoever it is, that's a neat knife for sure. :tu:
Any ideas on the one on the reverse? Don't think its Kitchener.
Nice Wenger Professional 1.71.21 in Blue for a change :)
Blade stamped 81
(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-kJ8OAtlENR4/UxuIf7wLxuI/AAAAAAAAGZ4/lky9FG3jV0Y/s800/IMAGE_168.jpg)
(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-Q8diQuY5Nwk/UxuIiBDJlaI/AAAAAAAAGYs/V7iHpVr7oYs/s1024/IMAGE_169.jpg)
(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-wUyTLSiaMJw/UxuIklXv8QI/AAAAAAAAGaA/B4HgGCRou1E/s800/IMAGE_170.jpg)
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-E6yv_Qch5jk/UxuImoYpMwI/AAAAAAAAGY8/E4R7qVH7WfY/s800/IMAGE_171.jpg)
Don't think I've seen one in anything but red. Nice!
I recently got a hold of the "elusive" Rangergrip 88 rescue, and it is impressive. I have a Victorniox Workchamp XL, and this thing is even more imposing (though thankfully narrower). The only thing I'd change on this one, is the thickness of the scales. They make the knife unnecessarily thick.Much love ... :D
I recently got a hold of the "elusive" Rangergrip 88 rescue, and it is impressive. I have a Victorniox Workchamp XL, and this thing is even more imposing (though thankfully narrower). The only thing I'd change on this one, is the thickness of the scales. They make the knife unnecessarily thick.Much love ... :D
(http://forum.multitool.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=32456.0;attach=118989;image)
:drool:
Nice knives everyone!+1 Some very interesting new finds! :salute:
I looked at the collection and I found that there is no Wenger knife at me with Combo Tool. It was necessary to buy Wenger Classic (6.54.01)
I looked at the collection and I found that there is no Wenger knife at me with Combo Tool. It was necessary to buy Wenger Classic (6.54.01)
Nice ones, Gim. :cheers:
I added the model number from your box to the wiki page of the Premier.
http://www.sakwiki.com/tiki-index.php?page=Premier
I looked at the collection and I found that there is no Wenger knife at me with Combo Tool. It was necessary to buy Wenger Classic (6.54.01)
Nice ones, Gim. :cheers:
I added the model number from your box to the wiki page of the Premier.
http://www.sakwiki.com/tiki-index.php?page=Premier (http://www.sakwiki.com/tiki-index.php?page=Premier)
Is that one of the Delemont collection or something? I mean, with Vic T&T and combotool...
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A Wenger stand in the Munich airport on my road to Sarajevo.
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A Wenger stand in the Munich airport on my road to Sarajevo.
So you were traveling from Greece to Sarajevo via Munich? :ahhh
(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/03/25/e5amunyv.jpg)
(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/03/25/3eqa2e4y.jpg)
A Wenger stand in the Munich airport on my road to Sarajevo.
Hello,
today I found a Evo 63 Blackout SoftTouch in a local shop.
(http://www.sakwiki.com/show_image.php?id=2876)
Is (or was) this model really exclusive to the Australian market?
http://www.sakwiki.com/tiki-index.php?page=Entree
The shop owner told me he had three (this was the last one) and that he came across them way before the Blackout models (with EvoGrip scales) were available.
The wiki pictures work fine for me. :think:
Also check that it's really PVD version.
PVD refers to the process used to coat the blades. I also remember the Australian distributor and dealers claiming they were exclusive. I'll look at the links you provided. If the keyring changes they may technically be a different model. It could also be like many models... only exclusive for short time, but this was a very expensive knife in AU.The wiki pictures work fine for me. :think:
Now they are working, but this morning all the wiki pictures were not loading.Also check that it's really PVD version.
Are you referring to the scales or the identifier? ???
Because I can tell you that the scales are exactly the same as the Soft Touch models.
I forgot to mention that all the models I saw (mine included) are missing the keyring.
Some additional pictures can be found on the stressmaster blog
http://sakfan.blogspot.it/2013/07/wenger-evo-soft-touch-63-blackout.html
and expecially have a look at this discussion on this german forum (about half way)
http://www.messerforum.net/showthread.php?79010-Wenger-Soft-Touch-schwarze-Klinge
Apparently the picture shown there was taken from a shop in Switzerland (if I understood correctly).
That german topic dates back to 2009!!!!
Mine came in a metal box exactly as the one shown above.
Ok, I think I probably deserve a medal for this :D(http://www.glurb.com/local/images/smilies/winner.gif)
Ok, I think I probably deserve a medal for this :D:salute:
Went through a tons of cached web pages on Wenger Australia website, and here are the result
Original web page from 2009
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That is very good detective work, but haven't you established also that they are different knives? Sorry if I missed it do you know that the knives in other parts of Europe were available around the same time, or could it be they simply took the recent PVD model that has no keyring and black scale implements and just changed the scales for some places in Europe?
I guess it does not really matter, if what you are saying is that you can get a Black Evo 63 with soft-touch scales that's pretty darn close to the Australian exclusive.
Wenger Evolution s10
:cheers:Wenger Evolution s10Nice one!
I've found a fixed Wenger. Any info about this one?Nice one! I have one, not stag, that I posted about at one time. Carl has quite a collection of different handles with/without the saw tooth I believe.
Franz Carl Weber is a big Swiss toy(!) seller.
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I've found a fixed Wenger. Any info about this one?
Franz Carl Weber is a big Swiss toy(!) seller.
(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-9X33heaHIes/UzgnVjnBlII/AAAAAAAAJeo/YceijGESxYY/s800/DSCN8876_r.jpg)
(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-vvXTBFoC7o4/UzgnWbIaNiI/AAAAAAAAJe8/Zx7Fm3uYUX8/s800/DSCN8883_r.jpg)
(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-v-ZcMXEI2ms/UzgnWGrH5LI/AAAAAAAAJfE/UQYJKOAnlSM/s800/DSCN8892_r.jpg)
(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-0hwS9jhNMfU/UzgnWh1ysXI/AAAAAAAAJfA/IoZY2TS_LvU/s800/DSCN8899_r.jpg)
Cool Swissgrip, and the swords in the background look cool too. Is that a bokken on top? Do you use it in practice?
Here are some Wenger I own.I stated in another post that I don't know the names of these with the exception of the toolchest.
Cant's see all the tools of your knives.
However, judging from the pictures, I would say:
Ranger on top, assuming it has a phillips driver, is Sabla 08.
Model on the left, assuming it has phillips driver, is a Monarch.
Model in the middle, Toolchest plus.
Model on the right, assuming it has corkscrew, is a Nomad.
Thanks so much for that information.I've written it down and placed it in my tool chest.
What is that gray tool that looks to be a tube with a tapered end and a cut in its shaft?
What is that gray tool that looks to be a tube with a tapered end and a cut in its shaft?
A whistle. :whistle:
What is that gray tool that looks to be a tube with a tapered end and a cut in its shaft?
A whistle. :whistle:
Here is an additional unusual one.
I believe this is the "Pathfinder II" (16926).
Note the old 5-turns corkscrew and the missing patent marking on the cap lifter.
A more recent one (with the "4 turns" corkscrew) just sold on ebay.com today.
Thanks so much for that information.I've written it down and placed it in my tool chest.
No problems, I hope I was correct on id your knives.
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This is an interesting Wenger I recently bought.
I would call it a sub-variant of model 1.92.73 (see the Survivor wiki page for more informations).
I only saw this knife listed on japan websites (but with the same catalog number as the standard scale model) and when I made an order from Japan some time ago, I bought one.
Unfortunately, what I received was a standard 1.92.73, without the cyclist imprint.
So I thought that the picture of this knife with the cyclist imprint was just a catalog error.
This was untill I found this knife.
Now you may ask: what if the front scale was later replaced, adding the one from the more common cyclist model?
The last attached picture answer this question: as far as I know, the knife here is the only one to feature a front scale with the cyclist imprint and the provision for the tweezers.
In short my personal conclusion is (unless someone had different informations): the knife here was a "variation" of model 1.92.73 made only for the Japan market.
Hi
Very nice knife! I wonder if this is a 1979 SAK?
I believe you are correct and it is made for that market. If it got the "liner attaching" scale then you can try to see and compare with other ones. If somebody did this private then it would show.
Hi
Very nice knife! I wonder if this is a 1979 SAK?
Hey North Man!
I think the same.
This knife is also shown on page 9 of the 1982 catalog (on top).
The image there seems to have the more recent corkscrew.
However, in the same catalog there are also pictures of knives with the older type.
Do you have an idea about when the change in the corkscrew did happen?
I believe you are correct and it is made for that market. If it got the "liner attaching" scale then you can try to see and compare with other ones. If somebody did this private then it would show.
No, I don't think it was modded.
They would had to cut the space for the tweezers on the liner, and on my example I am 100% sure it was factory made.
Here is an example of one of the stock catalog picture I was talking about
(http://i.imgur.com/XDkNbvk.jpg)
Suspect this is the Wenger version of the 'V & globe' logo used by Victorinox for sale in Saudi Arabia.
Here's an interesting Wenger. Its a rare version of the Backpacker/Classic 13, with a flat phillips sd in place of the nail file. Its number is 1.13.23. Names in my notes include Classic 13 and Mountain (a generic series term). Probably will call it a Classic 13 variant.
Stumbled upon this big Wenger display knife. I have a Victorinox just like it but I think this Wenger one is a bit more uncommon :)
(http://forum.multitool.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=32456.0;attach=124132;image)
Stumbled upon this big Wenger display knife. I have a Victorinox just like it but I think this Wenger one is a bit more uncommon :)
Stumbled upon this big Wenger display knife. I have a Victorinox just like it but I think this Wenger one is a bit more uncommon :)
Bought this for $ 5.99 on ebay.
It is the "Papillon with Packlock" cat. 16915 shown on the NA 1982 catalog (page 11).
Bought this for $ 5.99 on ebay.
It is the "Papillon with Packlock" cat. 16915 shown on the NA 1982 catalog (page 11).
Nice score! :tu:
I'm guessing the bottle opener is non-locking? :think:
So probably a later edition? :think: I thought this feature was added mid 80s, '84 or so
I'm guessing the bottle opener is non-locking? :think:
No, it does lock in mine example.
So probably a later edition? :think: I thought this feature was added mid 80s, '84 or so
I'm guessing the bottle opener is non-locking? :think:
No, it does lock in mine example.
I like when the seller mistakes the Wenger logo for a fake-Victorinox logo, and sells it to you for the price of a cheap knock-off.
I like when the seller mistakes the Wenger logo for a fake-Victorinox logo, and sells it to you for the price of a cheap knock-off.
A few weeks ago, i bought me a Original Wenger Evogrip S 557, and i like it:
You get a locket Blade in the Formfaktor of a Swiss Army Knife,
By Victorinox, you get this only on the Big, Pant Pocket Unfriendly 111er Serie..
The Evogrip Scales feel good, and there are a good collektion of tools,
Ditnt tryd the Can Opener yet, but the Bottle Opener..
I pimped it whit the tiny Scewdriver from a 111er Workchamp , which get drilled in the corkscrew.. and a Pocket Clip for the Keyring
The only bad thing is the Opening for the Philips Screwdriver which only works, if you first open the Scissor and the Plier...
Also a nice features which i ditnt had on a Victorinox: you can easely close the Knife whit one Hand...
And as you cant open it whit one hand, you can carry it whitout fear hear in Germany :)
Its Red, its Smal, and it has the Swiss Cross on it, so its a swiss pocket knife :)
I know, Victorinox also have this knife now, as Delemont Collektion, but i have the Original Wenger now..
A few weeks ago, i bought me a Original Wenger Evogrip S 557, and i like it:
You get a locket Blade in the Formfaktor of a Swiss Army Knife,
By Victorinox, you get this only on the Big, Pant Pocket Unfriendly 111er Serie..
The Evogrip Scales feel good, and there are a good collektion of tools,
Ditnt tryd the Can Opener yet, but the Bottle Opener..
I pimped it whit the tiny Scewdriver from a 111er Workchamp , which get drilled in the corkscrew.. and a Pocket Clip for the Keyring
The only bad thing is the Opening for the Philips Screwdriver which only works, if you first open the Scissor and the Plier...
Also a nice features which i ditnt had on a Victorinox: you can easely close the Knife whit one Hand...
And as you cant open it whit one hand, you can carry it whitout fear hear in Germany :)
Its Red, its Smal, and it has the Swiss Cross on it, so its a swiss pocket knife :)
I know, Victorinox also have this knife now, as Delemont Collektion, but i have the Original Wenger now..
Welcome to the forum! :cheers:
That's a very nice SAK model. Quite a lot of tools in the 85mm format, still pocket friendly.
I can also Open it whitout open others, but its realy tought so its a nailkiller...
Maybe it gets a bit better, when its used some times..
I mean: according to the Cross and the Cardbox, its an original Wenger, so maybe the Knife itself dit lying around in some warehouses since a lot yeahrs..
Edit: ok, i tried it today: now it works..
These two were awaiting me when I arrived home from a retreat.
These two were awaiting me when I arrived home from a retreat.
Go on, remind us the model... :pok:
Zermatt, Survivor, Matterhorn etc :think:
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Did the two layer Wenger Evowood come with a box? Do you have a model number for it or a name?
ICanFixThat hasn't been around for some time now, if you have more pictures and info you can e-mail/PM them to basilio or me and we'll make a listing for it in the SAKwiki.
Or you can just write what you know about it here. :cheers:
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Very good restoration, Jean-Claude. :cheers:
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Ain't nothing like a Giant! The king of Swiss Army knives.
Just ordered a Victorinox Swiss Champ XAVT on the bay. Actually didn't mean to do it, but that had a best offer on a NIB, so I put in $300 and it was immediately accepted it, so I bought it. Well, now my Giant has a "little" brother.
After a good restauration this 100 mm Wenger has a better look !
(http://i39.servimg.com/u/f39/12/24/75/57/1310.jpg)
If you compare... "Before and After"...
(http://i39.servimg.com/u/f39/12/24/75/57/compar10.jpg)
Received today what I consider an interesting Wenger.
It is a RangerGrip which features orange scales and black coated implements.
This knife is part of a very expensive set (Limited Edition Squadron Rescue Chrono, cat. 60758), which includes a watch, limited to just 1893 pieces.
(http://i.imgur.com/BUFEcb5.jpg)
More about the set here
http://www.wengerna.com/squadron-rescue-chrono-60758
The set is not really "rare", as there are always examples for sale on ebay.
However, with a retail price of just $ 695 ( and ebay prices usually around € 300) I couldn't really justify the purchase.
Most of all, I couldn't care less about the watch.
Well, what I had been waiting for just happened some time ago: an auction showed up, and this time it was only for the knife.
It seems there was out there a watch collector who couldn't care less about the knife.
So, with the kind help by a forum member, I was able to grab the knife for just $ 44
Here is an old Wenger Esquire with a couple of unique differences from the modern day one. First off is the split nail file, then the scissors spring and finally the internal blade springs.Cool esquire. I wonder what the purpose of the split nail file is?
Old Wenger Esquire (http://sakfan.blogspot.com/2014/08/wenger-esquire-vintage-special-model.html)
(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-7vlgfxfg1Hc/U_OsmbCJZsI/AAAAAAAAop0/y2aJpRvjkao/s800/DSC02842.JPG)(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-hFM49zc0rQk/U_Osx3shQUI/AAAAAAAAoqU/tDqbNxD1IHo/s800/DSC02846.JPG)(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-3yvj3fCUU_o/U_Os0I6-yhI/AAAAAAAAoqc/Y-DyOxgskag/s800/DSC02848.JPG)(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-xNgb6R9stm8/U_Os-GokjKI/AAAAAAAAorA/mM0ZGE1IyOs/s800/DSC02854.JPG)
It took me some time, I pestered the man twice and I'm sorry to say no more info came up. :(Tomorrow afternoon I'm going by the shop, see if the guy has come up with any info on the Tactile 812.
To be honest, I'm not expecting much, meaning I'm not sure he'll have done any search but you never know. I may have to pick up a SI or two to give him an incentive :D
Let us know if you find more information.
Cool esquire. I wonder what the purpose of the split nail file is?
This is clearly a changeling named Wengorinox.
:rofl:
This is clearly a changeling named Wengorinox.
:rofl:
:whistle:
(http://rs220.pbsrc.com/albums/dd39/stressmaster5000/Tang%20Stamps/OldWengerinox-04-cropped.jpg~c200)
Wenger used to be called that, you know. ;)
Much nice knives shown lately :tu:
Much nice knives shown lately :tu:
Now there's a username I haven't seen in a while. :cheers:
Hope you're doing well. :tu:
Just picked up a Professional 1 72 41. Now have the complete set of the later plastic-handled Professional/Handwerker series. Only have a couple of the early nylon-handled knives.
Just picked up a Professional 1 72 41. Now have the complete set of the later plastic-handled Professional/Handwerker series. Only have a couple of the early nylon-handled knives.
A picture of the awl too
(euro number AF.1.077.061.891 or called RangerGrip Pink 61.891)
Did you know that Pink is a color used for different Camouflage Technics during war? Also pink has not always been a color for women?
Wenger used this shade/color Pink on more early knives but the RangerGrip Pink is one of the latest Wenger models!
A picture of the awl too
(euro number AF.1.077.061.891 or called RangerGrip Pink 61.891)
Did you know that Pink is a color used for different Camouflage Technics during war? Also pink has not always been a color for women?
Wenger used this shade/color Pink on more early knives but the RangerGrip Pink is one of the latest Wenger models!
The SAS used "Pink Panther" Land Rovers when operating in Yemen.
A picture of the awl too
(euro number AF.1.077.061.891 or called RangerGrip Pink 61.891)
Did you know that Pink is a color used for different Camouflage Technics during war? Also pink has not always been a color for women?
Wenger used this shade/color Pink on more early knives but the RangerGrip Pink is one of the latest Wenger models!
The SAS used "Pink Panther" Land Rovers when operating in Yemen.
There is a closeout sale in a shop but I do not think the prices on most items are low enough.... but they are in theory collectible.. unless the fact that many are now made by Victorinox decreases the demand for the old Wenger models, in the future.
Maybe I will get something next week.
There is a closeout sale in a shop but I do not think the prices on most items are low enough.... but they are in theory collectible.. unless the fact that many are now made by Victorinox decreases the demand for the old Wenger models, in the future.
Maybe I will get something next week.
Nice knives!
It is difficult to tell how collectable Wenger knives will be in the future. I mean knives from before the merging. I would believe the collectable value on knives from 1893-2013 would remain the same and in some cases increase. Since they are genuine SAKs then it would be so i believe. There is a small change today. The independent Wenger knives are now gone and there is only one Brand called Victorinox with knives and if people that want to collect SAKs then i would recommend collecting both 1884-2013 and continue to collect the New Victorinox knives.
My knowledge about SAKs increased much from collecting both and Wenger knives are educational and fun to collect. :tu:
There is a closeout sale in a shop but I do not think the prices on most items are low enough.... but they are in theory collectible.. unless the fact that many are now made by Victorinox decreases the demand for the old Wenger models, in the future.
Maybe I will get something next week.
Nice knives!
It is difficult to tell how collectable Wenger knives will be in the future. I mean knives from before the merging. I would believe the collectable value on knives from 1893-2013 would remain the same and in some cases increase. Since they are genuine SAKs then it would be so i believe. There is a small change today. The independent Wenger knives are now gone and there is only one Brand called Victorinox with knives and if people that want to collect SAKs then i would recommend collecting both 1884-2013 and continue to collect the New Victorinox knives.
My knowledge about SAKs increased much from collecting both and Wenger knives are educational and fun to collect. :tu:
Each to their own I suppose - but I won't buy the Vic Evo knock offs on principle. But that's my own choice.
There is a closeout sale in a shop but I do not think the prices on most items are low enough.... but they are in theory collectible.. unless the fact that many are now made by Victorinox decreases the demand for the old Wenger models, in the future.
Maybe I will get something next week.
Nice knives!
It is difficult to tell how collectable Wenger knives will be in the future. I mean knives from before the merging. I would believe the collectable value on knives from 1893-2013 would remain the same and in some cases increase. Since they are genuine SAKs then it would be so i believe. There is a small change today. The independent Wenger knives are now gone and there is only one Brand called Victorinox with knives and if people that want to collect SAKs then i would recommend collecting both 1884-2013 and continue to collect the New Victorinox knives.
My knowledge about SAKs increased much from collecting both and Wenger knives are educational and fun to collect. :tu:
Each to their own I suppose - but I won't buy the Vic Evo knock offs on principle. But that's my own choice.
I don't follow principles here, but simply I don't find a great interest to buy the same knives again.
Plus I honestly don't like the few "innovations" now introduced in the Delémont line much appealing.
So far I have 2 85mm from the new line: one evogrip and a standard evo scale that I won in a giveaway here.
Was thinking about buying a single "new" Ranger, but I'm not very tempted by the current models.
…Keyword: 9/11
Its almost as if a new generation of directors of Victorinox are now wanting to steer the brand name to pastures new, whilst continuing to remain holding steadfast to the prestige that the Victorinox Swiss army knife has become so symbolically recognised globally in a transition that could take decades to complete.
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…Keyword: 9/11
Its almost as if a new generation of directors of Victorinox are now wanting to steer the brand name to pastures new, whilst continuing to remain holding steadfast to the prestige that the Victorinox Swiss army knife has become so symbolically recognised globally in a transition that could take decades to complete.
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Would you like to know more?: National Geographic Megafactories Swiss Army Knife HD (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sPvDNXnRJQM#ws)
We all love to hold and use our SAKs and I think the major reason for this (for me at least) is that we are living in really uncertain times and the SAK provides an anchor - something thats always been there and will always be there, no matter what else is happening.I know what you mean and, stupid as it may sound to some, I find that feeling comforting; knowing my good ol' SAK is there for me and that I could replace it if anything happened to it - even during a zombie apocalypse if I knew where to look.
:cheers: :cheers: :salute: Both well said!We all love to hold and use our SAKs and I think the major reason for this (for me at least) is that we are living in really uncertain times and the SAK provides an anchor - something thats always been there and will always be there, no matter what else is happening.I know what you mean and, stupid as it may sound to some, I find that feeling comforting; knowing my good ol' SAK is there for me and that I could replace it if anything happened to it - even during a zombie apocalypse if I knew where to look.
:climber:
I certainly wouldn't dispute with any of your comments (Basilio, enki, coloswiss), and I for one would readily drop my prejudices and buy a Victorinox if "they" (and I do mean "THEY") actually brought something out worth buying. We all know the quality is there, its just the originality or lack off that galls me. I'm struggling to think of any "New" line that's made the world sit up and take notice in the last 5-6yrs. Please don't anybody mention coloured alox...... :facepalm:
Their sheer arrogance is simply breath taking!! But then again with the annoucment recently of their new store in Zürich, one does begin to wonder if Victorinox are not but wanting to move the brand name into markets new, clothing, baggage, perfume ( :rofl:) etc etc and whatever other tack they can endorse to profit from. I do sometimes question if that be the case. It would certainly bring sense to their current seemingly stagnant SAK lines. Whilst Victorinox would never want to freely admit to such a thing. Its almost as if a new generation of directors of Victorinox are now wanting to steer the brand name to pastures new, whilst continuing to remain holding steadfast to the prestige that the Victorinox Swiss army knife has become so symbolically recognised globally in a transition that could take decades to complete.
EDIT: It would be very interesting to know what the percentage of shop floor space is actually used solely for the display and marketing of Swiss army knives or knives in general in the new Zürich store.
I would like to see innovation. When all is said and done they are lauded as being the best. So let's see something new.You mean, something like the soldier '08? The replaceable glass breaker on the Rescue Tool? The replaceable disc-saw? Or do you mean something like the Wenger Business Tool?
Wenger did so many ideas, and they will be remembered for them - not that they went bust so to speak.
Victorinox is so predictable these days.
I can't even be bothered to carry on referring to them.
Dull is the word.
I would like to see innovation. When all is said and done they are lauded as being the best. So let's see something new.You mean, something like the soldier '08? The replaceable glass breaker on the Rescue Tool? The replaceable disc-saw? Or do you mean something like the Wenger Business Tool?
Wenger did so many ideas, and they will be remembered for them - not that they went bust so to speak.
Victorinox is so predictable these days.
I can't even be bothered to carry on referring to them.
Dull is the word.
Haven't we went over all of this like a dozen times in various other threads?
Do we really need to go over it again, when obviously no one is changing their minds on it?
:shrug:
OK, going back to topic, here is an interesting find.Nice Find...
I admit that I didn't know the correct english name for it, but after some search I think it is called Lenticular Print.
Basically, the image changes as long as you change your point of view.
In this case, the knife changes from closed to fully opened.
I think this panel is probably from the late '80's, first 90's.
Goes well toghether with the other vintage display I have, with the knife "embossed" (I think I already posted pictures of it here in this topic).
Sorry for the first two pictures, but it is nearly impossible to take good ones, because of how the panel is made.
OK, going back to topic, here is an interesting find.
I admit that I didn't know the correct english name for it, but after some search I think it is called Lenticular Print.
Basically, the image changes as long as you change your point of view.
In this case, the knife changes from closed to fully opened.
I think this panel is probably from the late '80's, first 90's.
Goes well toghether with the other vintage display I have, with the knife "embossed" (I think I already posted pictures of it here in this topic).
Sorry for the first two pictures, but it is nearly impossible to take good ones, because of how the panel is made.
The biggest Ranger in the world : 6 layers !
(http://i39.servimg.com/u/f39/12/24/75/57/gr110.jpg)
(http://i39.servimg.com/u/f39/12/24/75/57/gr210.jpg)
(http://i39.servimg.com/u/f39/12/24/75/57/gr310.jpg)
(http://i39.servimg.com/u/f39/12/24/75/57/gr410.jpg)
(http://i39.servimg.com/u/f39/12/24/75/57/gr510.jpg)
:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:The biggest Ranger in the world : 6 layers !
(http://i39.servimg.com/u/f39/12/24/75/57/gr110.jpg)
(http://i39.servimg.com/u/f39/12/24/75/57/gr210.jpg)
(http://i39.servimg.com/u/f39/12/24/75/57/gr310.jpg)
(http://i39.servimg.com/u/f39/12/24/75/57/gr410.jpg)
(http://i39.servimg.com/u/f39/12/24/75/57/gr510.jpg)
What model is that "fatboy"? :cheers:
The biggest Ranger in the world : 6 layers !
What model is that "fatboy"? :cheers:
That is very cool. I'd buy that! :)
The biggest Ranger in the world : 6 layers !
What model is that "fatboy"? :cheers:
It's a joke ! I did it myself with 3 Rangers (1 Rangergrip 71 and 1 Ranger 73 and a OH serrated blade of 1 Ranger 78)...
The biggest Ranger in the world : 6 layers !
The biggest Ranger in the world : 6 layers !
What a monster! :D
Hats off to you jc :hatsoff:
In theory how wide could you go??
I'd love a fully loaded ranger with both the shears and pliers layer, plus all the variations of blades including the mike horn serrated pattern.
What do you think such a beast would cost and would the pins be able to cope with the weight or would it sag.
It really would be the ultimate Wenger for me :drool: :drool:
I still have a Mike Horn :pok:Hats off to you jc :hatsoff:
In theory how wide could you go??
I'd love a fully loaded ranger with both the shears and pliers layer, plus all the variations of blades including the mike horn serrated pattern.
What do you think such a beast would cost and would the pins be able to cope with the weight or would it sag.
It really would be the ultimate Wenger for me :drool: :drool:
Well, with guenine Wenger rivet max wide is 3.50 cm (1.38 inch) but with other special rivets there is no weight and no wide limits (see the Wenger Giant !).
For all blades and all tools of Ranger knives, first you must to buy all Wenger knives to take blades and tools you need, then you have to make special rivets. I'm not sure it's still possible to buy all knives you need (In Europe I'm pretty sure it's impossible).
But if you can find all knives needed in US or in Canada, you can send them to me and I will make this "monster" for you !
I still have a Mike Horn :pok:Hats off to you jc :hatsoff:
In theory how wide could you go??
I'd love a fully loaded ranger with both the shears and pliers layer, plus all the variations of blades including the mike horn serrated pattern.
What do you think such a beast would cost and would the pins be able to cope with the weight or would it sag.
It really would be the ultimate Wenger for me :drool: :drool:
Well, with guenine Wenger rivet max wide is 3.50 cm (1.38 inch) but with other special rivets there is no weight and no wide limits (see the Wenger Giant !).
For all blades and all tools of Ranger knives, first you must to buy all Wenger knives to take blades and tools you need, then you have to make special rivets. I'm not sure it's still possible to buy all knives you need (In Europe I'm pretty sure it's impossible).
But if you can find all knives needed in US or in Canada, you can send them to me and I will make this "monster" for you !
You would need:
Alinghi: Marlin Spike and nice serated Blade
Gardener: For the shears
Mike Horn: Plane Blade, Sheepfoot Blade (serated), short File
Electrician: Hawkbill Blade
Ranger 50 or Hunter: gutting / safety Blade and wood saw
Rescue / East Ranger or Handyman: Long metal file
Oboe
That gives:
3 OHO Blades
Gutting Blade
Oboe Blade
2 Metal Files
Pliers
Shears
Marlin Spike
:rofl: 10 layers ranger, roughly 8 cm thick :rofl:
I still have a Mike Horn :pok:Hats off to you jc :hatsoff:
In theory how wide could you go??
I'd love a fully loaded ranger with both the shears and pliers layer, plus all the variations of blades including the mike horn serrated pattern.
What do you think such a beast would cost and would the pins be able to cope with the weight or would it sag.
It really would be the ultimate Wenger for me :drool: :drool:
No problem ! I can do it (3 days of work). Just send me knives and money on my paypal account LOL !
Well, with guenine Wenger rivet max wide is 3.50 cm (1.38 inch) but with other special rivets there is no weight and no wide limits (see the Wenger Giant !).
For all blades and all tools of Ranger knives, first you must to buy all Wenger knives to take blades and tools you need, then you have to make special rivets. I'm not sure it's still possible to buy all knives you need (In Europe I'm pretty sure it's impossible).
But if you can find all knives needed in US or in Canada, you can send them to me and I will make this "monster" for you !
You would need:
Alinghi: Marlin Spike and nice serated Blade
Gardener: For the shears
Mike Horn: Plane Blade, Sheepfoot Blade (serated), short File
Electrician: Hawkbill Blade
Ranger 50 or Hunter: gutting / safety Blade and wood saw
Rescue / East Ranger or Handyman: Long metal file
Oboe
That gives:
3 OHO Blades
Gutting Blade
Oboe Blade
2 Metal Files
Pliers
Shears
Marlin Spike
:rofl: 10 layers ranger, roughly 8 cm thick :rofl:
EEK.... :ahhh
So basically we're looking at £500+ :whistle:
Still, it would be an incredible addition :think:
nice :cheers:
If I find a big file (like on RangerGrip 88 recue) I will add it to have a 7 layers !Then would be the perfect monster, of course with corkscrew instead of phillips :facepalm:
If I find a big file (like on RangerGrip 88 recue) I will add it to have a 7 layers !Then would be the perfect monster, of course with corkscrew instead of phillips :facepalm:
For phillips you should go with bit driver in scales hole :D
Btw :2tu:
Next time I will make an other with corkscrew AND phillips ! LOL:D :D and don't forget the metal saw ;)
Next time I will make an other with corkscrew AND phillips ! LOL:D :D and don't forget the metal saw ;)
Hello All !Thanks, that is awesome! :salute:
Since a long time I dreamed to make this little Wiki tool ...
I started with the Wiki of Wengers 130 mm (the Rangers)
The three objectives of this tool are :
- 1) quickly find a reference to a knife from his tools
- 2) show all known variants of the same knife
- 3) and YOU make me happy too !
First download this software (No virus nor spyware !) and copy it on your desktop : HERE (http://www.jcfiguet.com/FCS/Wenger/Wiki/Wiki_Wenger_130_mm.exe)
Run the software and accept the licence agreement. It works like an Excel sheet :
- You can filter tools and blades (gray arrow under tools and blades command bar)
- Clic on the knife icon to see dedails
And now enjoy !
wow seems beautiful!
wow seems beautiful!
can't wait to try it on my PC at home
I hope you will add missing knives on Sakwiki ! LOL !!!
Ho it's a bad joke... Sakwiki is the best and I love it.
I hope you will add missing knives on Sakwiki ! LOL !!!
Ho it's a bad joke... Sakwiki is the best and I love it.
Not really a joke.
The wiki is still missing tons of knives (Wengers), and there are still errors here and there that needs to be corrected.
Nikola was updating a lot recently, while I'm well behind my to-do list and it was ages ago when I made my last edits.
:td: to myself.
Hello All !
Since a long time I dreamed to make this little Wiki tool ...
I started with the Wiki of Wengers 130 mm (the Rangers)
The three objectives of this tool are :
- 1) quickly find a reference to a knife from his tools
- 2) show all known variants of the same knife
- 3) and YOU make me happy too !
First download this software (No virus nor spyware !) and copy it on your desktop : HERE (http://www.jcfiguet.com/FCS/Wenger/Wiki/Wiki_Wenger_130_mm.exe)
Run the software and accept the licence agreement. It works like an Excel sheet :
- You can filter tools and blades (gray arrow under tools and blades command bar)
- Clic on the knife icon to see dedails
(http://i39.servimg.com/u/f39/12/24/75/57/wiki_w10.png)
I hope this french tutorial will help you ! But don't worry, the software is in English !
(http://i39.servimg.com/u/f39/12/24/75/57/110.jpg)
And now enjoy !
Thanks really usefull.
:salute:
Just to be told you MUST have excel 2007 or higer to use it. I use starter and does not work :oops:
But really is a great idea and I appreciate it.
Ave Maria!
Very nice!
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Swiss Army Knight vs Knights Templar....
:duel:
(http://i833.photobucket.com/albums/zz256/SAKGuy/AM6_zpsd99be633.jpg)
Some lovin of geriatric Wengers happening here.
(http://i1309.photobucket.com/albums/s640/Peter_Thorpe/20141201_091625_zpsseoek3rn.jpg)
Nice !Here's a link to a thread re the Three Face logo:
But need to be restored to have better aspect...
Coul you please show other faces of blades to see the year ? The last one is a Coutellerie Suisse but I never saw this stamp on a 1908 model.
Nice !Here's a link to a thread re the Three Face logo:
But need to be restored to have better aspect...
Coul you please show other faces of blades to see the year ? The last one is a Coutellerie Suisse but I never saw this stamp on a 1908 model.
http://forum.multitool.org/index.php/topic,37652.msg605267.html#msg605267
Not quite sure what you mean by a 1908 model - Is that when they moved from wooden to fibre handles?
However I have one of the old 100mm 'Soldiers' with this stamp.
It does not have any other markings/tang stamps eg Waffenkontrolle, Year Stamp, P stamp etc etc
Hello All !
Since a long time I dreamed to make this little Wiki tool ...
I started with the Wiki of Wengers 130 mm (the Rangers)
And now enjoy !
According to Thierry Deladoey, its a 1901 variant.
Model 1908 is the model of swiss army knives between 1908 to 1950 (see http://www.couteaux-du-soldat-suisse.ch/J01/index.php/en/ to have more informations about swiss soldier's knives)Yep - Came from the mother country - ie La Suisse!
I'm curious because it's the first time I see this stamp (alone) on this model of knife and I would like to see if a date is printed or not on the other face of the blade. This case is very interesting.
Did you by this knife in Europe ?
Hello All !
Since a long time I dreamed to make this little Wiki tool ...
I started with the Wiki of Wengers 130 mm (the Rangers)
And now enjoy !
This is a really, really great tool jcf
- Je vous remercie mille fois
Et j'aime baucoup le contrat de license :D >:D - Je vais jamais pirater le logiciel
Hey - But this definitely needs its own thread
- Can you post up a new thread for your wonderful tool so that others can find it easily
- Call it 'Wenger Model Configuration/selection tool' - or such like!
Je vois aussi que vous aimé Le Jungle Book - mois aussi - Baloo est mon hero
Thanks again.
According to Thierry Deladoey, its a 1901 variant.
Sorry, but no it's not : 1901 variant has a blade like 1890 model. The defference between 1901 model and 1890 model is only handles : Ebony or black oak for 1890 models and fibers for 1901 models.
You can also find fibers handles on 1908 models an 1951 models.
1890 model :
(http://www.couteaux-du-soldat-suisse.ch/J01/images/photos_site/modeles/1890/Mod_1890.jpg)
1901 model :
(http://www.couteaux-du-soldat-suisse.ch/J01/images/photos_site/modeles/1901/Mod_1901.jpg)
1908 model :
(http://www.couteaux-du-soldat-suisse.ch/J01/images/photos_site/modeles/1908/Mod_1908.png)
This is the other sides of the three knives.
As you can see, there is no stamp on the back of the "three faces" knife.
Perhaps the very earliest (1972 or so) springless scissors were not serrated. I have a Monarch from about then with no serrations on the scissors.
Perhaps the very earliest (1972 or so) springless scissors were not serrated. I have a Monarch from about then with no serrations on the scissors.
Here's mine.
(http://i833.photobucket.com/albums/zz256/SAKGuy/OldWenger_zps84c306d0.jpg)
Perhaps the very earliest (1972 or so) springless scissors were not serrated. I have a Monarch from about then with no serrations on the scissors.
Here's mine.
(http://i833.photobucket.com/albums/zz256/SAKGuy/OldWenger_zps84c306d0.jpg)
Hello,
Yes of course, but on this Monarch scisors are before 1973 with spring like Victorinox, not with integrated spring.
I have never seen scisors (after 1973) with integrated spring not serrated on Wenger knives...
Interesting.
I think that the removal of the serrations from the scissors could be a mod as well.
Perhaps the very earliest (1972 or so) springless scissors were not serrated. I have a Monarch from about then with no serrations on the scissors.
Here's mine.
Hello,
Yes of course, but on this Monarch scisors are before 1973 with spring like Victorinox, not with integrated spring.
I have never seen scisors (after 1973) with integrated spring not serrated on Wenger knives...
Thank you! I couldn't remember if they were integrated or not.
Perhaps the very earliest (1972 or so) springless scissors were not serrated. I have a Monarch from about then with no serrations on the scissors.
Here's mine.
Hello,
Yes of course, but on this Monarch scisors are before 1973 with spring like Victorinox, not with integrated spring.
I have never seen scisors (after 1973) with integrated spring not serrated on Wenger knives...
Thank you! I couldn't remember if they were integrated or not.
Patent Wenger 1973 : integrated spring on scisors
http://www.jcfiguet.com/FCS/Wenger/Brevets/1973_Ciseaux/13-03-1973 CH561588.pdf
Here's mine. This knife was purchased off EBAY about a year ago for about $34. So it certainly could have been modified. However, if the scissors were filed, whomever did a machine shop quality job.
The reason I alluded to 1972 is because I saw a magazine ad showing the then, new style scissors, dated that year. At least that's what I believe I remember. Field & Stream oe maybe Boys Life.
Here's mine. This knife was purchased off EBAY about a year ago for about $34. So it certainly could have been modified. However, if the scissors were filed, whomever did a machine shop quality job.
The reason I alluded to 1972 is because I saw a magazine ad showing the then, new style scissors, dated that year. At least that's what I believe I remember. Field & Stream oe maybe Boys Life.
In fact, 2 patents exist :
- the first 1972 for scissors (1st version) : http://www.jcfiguet.com/FCS/Wenger/Brevets/1972_Ciseaux/04-09-1972 CH555730A.pdf
- the second of 1973 with addition of a bevel spring-loaded scissors : http://www.jcfiguet.com/FCS/Wenger/Brevets/1973_Ciseaux/13-03-1973 CH561588.pdf
Might be a mod, could we get a closeup of the peening on the pins.
I have a 1.02.03 Standard and the scissors are not serrated. The "no backtools" scales could come from a Diplomat or Apprentice.
Would be not a bad option to add scissors to your EDC if you had something like a Rebar as a MT.
Here's mine. This knife was purchased off EBAY about a year ago for about $34. So it certainly could have been modified. However, if the scissors were filed, whomever did a machine shop quality job.
The reason I alluded to 1972 is because I saw a magazine ad showing the then, new style scissors, dated that year. At least that's what I believe I remember. Field & Stream oe maybe Boys Life.
In fact, 2 patents exist :
- the first 1972 for scissors (1st version) : http://www.jcfiguet.com/FCS/Wenger/Brevets/1972_Ciseaux/04-09-1972 CH555730A.pdf
- the second of 1973 with addition of a bevel spring-loaded scissors : http://www.jcfiguet.com/FCS/Wenger/Brevets/1973_Ciseaux/13-03-1973 CH561588.pdf
Perhaps, there was a transition from the first type scissors to the newer ones, which included a version without serrations.
North Man or Coloswiss could know
Might be a mod, could we get a closeup of the peening on the pins.
I have a 1.02.03 Standard and the scissors are not serrated. The "no backtools" scales could come from a Diplomat or Apprentice.
Would be not a bad option to add scissors to your EDC if you had something like a Rebar as a MT.
Didn't you guys see that?Here's mine. This knife was purchased off EBAY about a year ago for about $34. So it certainly could have been modified. However, if the scissors were filed, whomever did a machine shop quality job.
The reason I alluded to 1972 is because I saw a magazine ad showing the then, new style scissors, dated that year. At least that's what I believe I remember. Field & Stream oe maybe Boys Life.
In fact, 2 patents exist :
- the first 1972 for scissors (1st version) : http://www.jcfiguet.com/FCS/Wenger/Brevets/1972_Ciseaux/04-09-1972 CH555730A.pdf
- the second of 1973 with addition of a bevel spring-loaded scissors : http://www.jcfiguet.com/FCS/Wenger/Brevets/1973_Ciseaux/13-03-1973 CH561588.pdf
Perhaps, there was a transition from the first type scissors to the newer ones, which included a version without serrations.
North Man or Coloswiss could know
Photos of the two 1.02.03 Standard Wengers I have... the first has NO SERRATIONS and the scissors are flat.
The second DOES have serrations and the blades are beveled.
(http://i1309.photobucket.com/albums/s640/Peter_Thorpe/IMG_0939_zpsd1bd1874.jpg)
(http://i1309.photobucket.com/albums/s640/Peter_Thorpe/IMG_0937_zpsd2869a36.jpg)
(http://i1309.photobucket.com/albums/s640/Peter_Thorpe/IMG_0940_zpsb3f3290d.jpg)
(http://i1309.photobucket.com/albums/s640/Peter_Thorpe/IMG_0941_zps280b30cc.jpg)
the two scissors side by side
(http://i1309.photobucket.com/albums/s640/Peter_Thorpe/IMG_0942_zps439796b9.jpg)
(http://i1309.photobucket.com/albums/s640/Peter_Thorpe/IMG_0943_zpseaff784f.jpg)
Here endeth the lesson.
Any ideas about this old Wenger shield?
closeup of the two Wenger crosses from my 1.02.03 standards
Any ideas about this old Wenger shield?
Any ideas about this old Wenger shield?
Headed this way. My Christmas gift to myself.
Any ideas about this old Wenger shield?
Headed this way. My Christmas gift to myself.
And this is my Christmas gift to myself !
(http://pics.ricardostatic.ch/2_749478506_Big/autres/victorinox-alox.jpg)
Photos of the two 1.02.03 Standard Wengers I have... the first has NO SERRATIONS and the scissors are flat.
The second DOES have serrations and the blades are beveled.
"Are the blades sharp? Some have unsharpened blades."
Hi. Excuse my English. I looked at knife blades. They are ground, but not the ideally sharp. It is heavy to open and close.
Really nice!!! :cheers:Love it. As said on that thread, I've always seen it as a perfect companion to TrailGuide or like. It's small, neat ... and has pliers >:D
Photos of the two 1.02.03 Standard Wengers I have... the first has NO SERRATIONS and the scissors are flat.
The second DOES have serrations and the blades are beveled.
the two scissors side by side
(http://i1309.photobucket.com/albums/s640/Peter_Thorpe/IMG_0942_zps439796b9.jpg)
Here endeth the lesson.
Sweet! Nice pic as usual SAK Guy :salute:
Is it going to be a user?
http://www.goldentelemedia.com/e-catalogue/Lepus_Offers/#/4/
See page 5.
The price for the 57 looks good. Is it?
I may pop by tomorrow...
Wenger Ranger 106 just received in the mail today and NIB.
Wenger Ranger 106 just received in the mail today and NIB.
120 mm of Wenger are more and more difficult to find !
Rangergrip 51's and 76's ???
I never saw these knives !!!
Rangergrip 51's and 76's ???
I never saw these knives !!!
Wenger 51 and 76 respectively.
Rangergrip 51's and 76's ???
I never saw these knives !!!
Wenger 51 and 76 respectively.
OK ! I understood 1951 and 1976 !!! LOL
But what is the differences between 51 and 76 ?
I found these on SAKWiki.They are also known as the Swissgrip.
http://sakwiki.com/tiki-index.php?page=Wenger+SwissGrip
16963 Wenger N.A.: Black, Phillips, bit-adapter, 3-bits, Leather pouch, display box
16964 Wenger N.A.: Black, Phillips, bit-adapter, 3-bits, Nylon pouch, display box
16965 Wenger N.A.: Black, Phillips, bit-adapter, 3-bits, display box
16966 Wenger N.A.: Black, Phillips, bit-adapter, 3-bits, Leather pouch
16967 Wenger N.A.: Black, Phillips, bit-adapter, 3-bits, Nylon pouch
16968 Wenger N.A.: Black, Phillips, bit-adapter
1 76 02 02 Wenger: Black, Phillips, bit-adapter, 3-bits, Nylon pouch, SOSAK KoY 2011.
1 76 51 02 Wenger: Black, Corkscrew, bit-adapter, 3-bits, display box
Lot of references, but finaly only 2 knives : 1 with Corkscrew and 1 with Phillips
And I'm not sure that 1 76 51 02 is the good reference
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1 76 51 02 is the Wenger number printed on the box that came w/the SwissGrip.
I had a quick look at the catalogs available, and I think I now understand what happened here.
The names Wengergrip 51 and Wengergrip 76 were first used on this discussion probably because they were found on this website (it is the the well known us branch of the danish suppliers of the colored Victorinox cadets)
http://thegoodstuffshop.com/swissarmyknives.aspx
The 2005 and 2006 european catalogs do use the same names
(http://i.imgur.com/aJyIMfq.jpg)
But, as you can see, there is no visual confirmation if the model "51" had corkscrew or phillips driver.
I believe, based on some web research, that the model 51 was just the same as model 76 (so with corkscrew). The only difference is that it was offered with the plastic box and kit.
The more clear image comes from the european 2007 catalog
(http://i.imgur.com/ZCm8Q38.jpg)
which uses the same names as referred by Jean Claude.
Model 76 with corkscrew and model 76.02 with phillips.
The 2008 catalog only shows model 76.02 (with phillips)
(http://i.imgur.com/RDcPLGy.jpg)
So the bottom line is: the wiki is probably confusing, and, in my opinion, these should be the identifiers to show:
1.76.01.02 Wengergrip 76 (corkscrew)
1.76.02.02 Wewngergrip 76.02 (phillips)
and then mentioning this, but only as a subvariant of model 76
1.76.51.02 Wengergrip 51 (same as Wengergrip 76, only changing the packaging).
What do you think?
Some new Wengers!!!
1940 Wenger
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I wish they made these today, I would definitely use one! I love the clip point blade and how thick it is. The weight and heft behind this knife is great! I even used the old can opener. Once it got started it actually worked great! It did leave a dangerous jagged metal edge though.
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They look like stainless but I'm not entirely sure.Some new Wengers!!!
1940 Wenger
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I wish they made these today, I would definitely use one! I love the clip point blade and how thick it is. The weight and heft behind this knife is great! I even used the old can opener. Once it got started it actually worked great! It did leave a dangerous jagged metal edge though.
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Your 1940 Wenger has carbon steel blades or stainless steel blades ?
They look like stainless but I'm not entirely sure.Some new Wengers!!!
1940 Wenger
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I wish they made these today, I would definitely use one! I love the clip point blade and how thick it is. The weight and heft behind this knife is great! I even used the old can opener. Once it got started it actually worked great! It did leave a dangerous jagged metal edge though.
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Your 1940 Wenger has carbon steel blades or stainless steel blades ?
Yes mine is a civilian one. It has no stamp on the scale. Now I know it's stainless. MerciThey look like stainless but I'm not entirely sure.Some new Wengers!!!
1940 Wenger
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I wish they made these today, I would definitely use one! I love the clip point blade and how thick it is. The weight and heft behind this knife is great! I even used the old can opener. Once it got started it actually worked great! It did leave a dangerous jagged metal edge though.
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Your 1940 Wenger has carbon steel blades or stainless steel blades ?
You must know some thing :
Soldiers knives betteen 1908 and 1950 are allways carbon steel blades and you must find a "waffen kontrole" stamp on the scale side of the can opener.
If no "waffen kontrole" stamp or no year stamp on the blade or the blade is stainless steel, it's a civilian version of soldier knife.
You have more informations here : http://www.couteaux-du-soldat-suisse.ch/J01/index.php/en/autres-couteaux/couteaux-civils (http://www.couteaux-du-soldat-suisse.ch/J01/index.php/en/autres-couteaux/couteaux-civils) at the end of the page.
Some new Wengers!!!
1940 Wenger
(http://i782.photobucket.com/albums/yy110/johnwsjr3/6719E481-5634-429C-B33D-0354229AE8C9_zpspqbi42vg.jpg) (http://s782.photobucket.com/user/johnwsjr3/media/6719E481-5634-429C-B33D-0354229AE8C9_zpspqbi42vg.jpg.html)
(http://i782.photobucket.com/albums/yy110/johnwsjr3/AAF8EFE0-E16A-458F-B474-BCBE6EA4E322_zpskpjupayu.jpg) (http://s782.photobucket.com/user/johnwsjr3/media/AAF8EFE0-E16A-458F-B474-BCBE6EA4E322_zpskpjupayu.jpg.html)
(http://i782.photobucket.com/albums/yy110/johnwsjr3/72B5A5A4-3DEC-4EC1-BB7B-EDBC0C08F1CE_zps6cdmqbgn.jpg) (http://s782.photobucket.com/user/johnwsjr3/media/72B5A5A4-3DEC-4EC1-BB7B-EDBC0C08F1CE_zps6cdmqbgn.jpg.html)
(http://i782.photobucket.com/albums/yy110/johnwsjr3/44D452CB-65C0-4E6F-B5DE-A32CF7C2D26B_zpsyxgtd0zx.jpg) (http://s782.photobucket.com/user/johnwsjr3/media/44D452CB-65C0-4E6F-B5DE-A32CF7C2D26B_zpsyxgtd0zx.jpg.html)
I wish they made these today, I would definitely use one! I love the clip point blade and how thick it is. The weight and heft behind this knife is great! I even used the old can opener. Once it got started it actually worked great! It did leave a dangerous jagged metal edge though.
Wenger Matterhorn
(http://i782.photobucket.com/albums/yy110/johnwsjr3/A8E3EABF-1680-4099-BC16-85CC67E5D407_zpsvqagkqxb.jpg) (http://s782.photobucket.com/user/johnwsjr3/media/A8E3EABF-1680-4099-BC16-85CC67E5D407_zpsvqagkqxb.jpg.html)
(http://i782.photobucket.com/albums/yy110/johnwsjr3/A01DE6F0-A746-4A5D-8FC5-7C8EFE0A68AB_zpsmeaz08mw.jpg) (http://s782.photobucket.com/user/johnwsjr3/media/A01DE6F0-A746-4A5D-8FC5-7C8EFE0A68AB_zpsmeaz08mw.jpg.html)
Two phillips? Wenger you sillies!!!!! :D
(http://i782.photobucket.com/albums/yy110/johnwsjr3/A1C58A70-CE5A-4126-B492-7ADE26CDD4CE_zpsnnhzmedp.jpg) (http://s782.photobucket.com/user/johnwsjr3/media/A1C58A70-CE5A-4126-B492-7ADE26CDD4CE_zpsnnhzmedp.jpg.html)
I love the Matterhorn. It's going to be a great hiking knife. With a perfect width, no keyring, classic scales, no blade lock tab sticking out, and flush backsprings (catch on victorinox!) this is the most comfortable sak to use ever!
Wenger Fly Fisherman
(http://i782.photobucket.com/albums/yy110/johnwsjr3/88FDD845-43C8-45DF-B907-4EDA291B1A69_zpsxchv0o3w.jpg) (http://s782.photobucket.com/user/johnwsjr3/media/88FDD845-43C8-45DF-B907-4EDA291B1A69_zpsxchv0o3w.jpg.html)
(http://i782.photobucket.com/albums/yy110/johnwsjr3/42A4B933-AABE-4E14-9D25-4E53B07957E7_zpsrdawbmfb.jpg) (http://s782.photobucket.com/user/johnwsjr3/media/42A4B933-AABE-4E14-9D25-4E53B07957E7_zpsrdawbmfb.jpg.html)
2D Phillips!
(http://i782.photobucket.com/albums/yy110/johnwsjr3/240F1CBF-FF39-49EB-B0FA-7DE8792703EF_zpszs5nrlw9.jpg) (http://s782.photobucket.com/user/johnwsjr3/media/240F1CBF-FF39-49EB-B0FA-7DE8792703EF_zpszs5nrlw9.jpg.html)
(http://i782.photobucket.com/albums/yy110/johnwsjr3/A55A3205-EDAE-4259-BEC9-E3BCCC9511A0_zpsyobbpzuh.jpg) (http://s782.photobucket.com/user/johnwsjr3/media/A55A3205-EDAE-4259-BEC9-E3BCCC9511A0_zpsyobbpzuh.jpg.html)
I love this knife. It's going to be used on many fishing trips. Look at the last picture closely though. I wonder if anything might be missing? Perhaps a way to dislodge debris from teeth, or tweeze? Nah that can't be it. :D
In case anyone is after one of these.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/371222586947
In case anyone is after one of these.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/371222586947
Wenger Grip 74.822
Wenger Grip 74.822
Nice.
Did you order from Eastern Europe, or was it available locally?
The 130 mm Ranger series have to be the best outdoor folding knife ever made
One of the few Wengers I own. Oldie, but a goodie. I have been told these are a little rare to have this many layers on one of these.
One of the few Wengers I own. Oldie, but a goodie. I have been told these are a little rare to have this many layers on one of these.
One of the few Wengers I own. Oldie, but a goodie. I have been told these are a little rare to have this many layers on one of these.
(http://i927.photobucket.com/albums/ad112/ChadV_2010/Knife%20and%20MT%202/DSC03416_zps37d0d13d.jpg) (http://s927.photobucket.com/user/ChadV_2010/media/Knife%20and%20MT%202/DSC03416_zps37d0d13d.jpg.html)
(http://i927.photobucket.com/albums/ad112/ChadV_2010/Knife%20and%20MT%202/DSC03417_zps2ef8cbfa.jpg) (http://s927.photobucket.com/user/ChadV_2010/media/Knife%20and%20MT%202/DSC03417_zps2ef8cbfa.jpg.html)
(http://i927.photobucket.com/albums/ad112/ChadV_2010/Knife%20and%20MT%202/DSC03418_zpse179b612.jpg) (http://s927.photobucket.com/user/ChadV_2010/media/Knife%20and%20MT%202/DSC03418_zpse179b612.jpg.html)
One of the few Wengers I own. Oldie, but a goodie. I have been told these are a little rare to have this many layers on one of these.
Whoa - Nice one CS - What a beauty :D
What on earth is that round ended blade?
Not the infamous butter spreader from 70 years ago??
But it looks like the inside edge is open or has a slot??
Looks like a name engraved on it as well ??
Hang onto those old Wengers - Gotta be rarer than - although not as poular as - their Vic cousins
Martin, does the Manager have the shield on the reverse side or is it completely absent? Don't remember ever seeing a Wenger with reverse shield scales. :think:
Very nice finds. :hatsoff:
Telescopic pointers.... Pointer & Manager.
(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-RPyiOB2vvt8/VMfpQOi-eOI/AAAAAAAAMDc/HJl9PJ26G24/s800/DSCN3159_r.jpg)
(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-XzBzUkc4Hws/VMfpQsCcRiI/AAAAAAAAMDk/dn85yravVA0/s800/DSCN3163_r.jpg)
(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-AmYBgnWE6TE/VMfpQt34uJI/AAAAAAAAMDs/yfuOnPYoTJ0/s800/DSCN3166_r.jpg)
Telescopic pointers.... Pointer & Manager.:2tu: ... :drool:
Hi
My Wenger PROF
(http://forum.multitool.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=32456.0;attach=142089;image)
Hi all.You can pretty much bet on it, very few such ...
I spotted two very nice and interesting Wenger's.
I think these were never documented before.
Sorry for the not perfect images quality, but I took them with my phone.
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The first model is a 65 mm, catalog 1.564.01
As you can see, apart from the unique tools configuration, this knife is actually a Junior model, and has the blade, nail file and even scissors rounded.
I found an old entry on smartknives with a matching catalog number and the generic name "Kindermesser".
Apart from this, I bet nobody had seen this variation before!
Can anyone say how old is he? Don't have Packlock system on cap-lifter?
Early '80s, late '70s maybe. Prior to 1982 I'd say going by memory.Thanks man!
Early '80s, late '70s maybe. Prior to 1982 I'd say going by memory.Thanks man!
Early '80s, late '70s maybe. Prior to 1982 I'd say going by memory.Thanks man!
Actually a slight correction. The padlock was introduced in the 1979 or 1980. Only appeared on a few models though, 6 of them. The 1982 was correct for the locking bottle opener so the time frame remains the same. ;)
Second find, is an unusual 85mm model, catalog 1.547.13.
I saw only once a picture of it some time ago.
Glad I finally found one.
As you can see, not only the tool configuration is interesting, but the removable wrench is completely different from the one found on the rollerblade or snowboard models.
Would be interesting to know what application this wrench was designed for.
(http://i.imgur.com/u71DoYm.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/F8X2FvF.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/gLF4gm0.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/bDqYCfX.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/BpvH7aB.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/Y8RuFKQ.jpg)
Second find, is an unusual 85mm model, catalog 1.547.13.
I saw only once a picture of it some time ago.
Glad I finally found one.
As you can see, not only the tool configuration is interesting, but the removable wrench is completely different from the one found on the rollerblade or snowboard models.
Would be interesting to know what application this wrench was designed for.
There is history on it in the wiki page I linked to an the SwissArmyKnights article at the bottom of the page.Why no article about Wenger Classic 66 on SAKWiki?
There is history on it in the wiki page I linked to an the SwissArmyKnights article at the bottom of the page.Why no article about Wenger Classic 66 on SAKWiki?
Is it a 1/4" square ? If so then it would work as a std 1/4" socket drive.
Some years back I picked up this 'SKITOUR' Wenger. It came in a box for another knife, so no info on a number or anything else. Recently there was a request for more info in another thread. Anyone here know any more?
A Wenger EvoWood 17 for Vogelwarte, a Swiss bird-watching group.
(repost from latest items)
A Wenger EvoWood 17 for Vogelwarte, a Swiss bird-watching group.
Love Wenger becouse it's easy too do filework on it)Nice filework
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Is it a 1/4" square ? If so then it would work as a std 1/4" socket drive.
I bought two old wenger. All kolletion of old knives
Can any of the Wegner aficionados help me identify this older gem... Some other gents have pegged it around the 40s but no thoughts yet on a model, etc....
Just received this nice little knife.
I usually don't buy this kind of knives, but ..... hey, how could I miss Wenger making a knife to commemorate its own town of Delémont?
This commemorative for the 700 years of the Ville de Delémont (1289-1989) should not be confused with the more comon commemoratives for the 700 years of the Swiss Confederation (1291-1991), which were made two years later, in 1991.
Thanks Kirk... Anyone out there have any thoughts?Can any of the Wegner aficionados help me identify this older gem... Some other gents have pegged it around the 40s but no thoughts yet on a model, etc....
:bump: -ing this one. Any ideas on its age or identity?
I don't know the model name sorry. There are some similar knives in this thread (http://forum.multitool.org/index.php/topic,41798.0.html) and over here (http://www.multi-tool.org/vintage-swiss-army-knives). I would start hunting through google images for more info.Thanks Kirk... Anyone out there have any thoughts?Can any of the Wegner aficionados help me identify this older gem... Some other gents have pegged it around the 40s but no thoughts yet on a model, etc....
:bump: -ing this one. Any ideas on its age or identity?
Thanks Zoid. :salute:I don't know the model name sorry. There are some similar knives in this thread (http://forum.multitool.org/index.php/topic,41798.0.html) and over here (http://www.multi-tool.org/vintage-swiss-army-knives). I would start hunting through google images for more info.Thanks Kirk... Anyone out there have any thoughts?Can any of the Wegner aficionados help me identify this older gem... Some other gents have pegged it around the 40s but no thoughts yet on a model, etc....
:bump: -ing this one. Any ideas on its age or identity?
+1 :2tu:Just received this nice little knife.
I usually don't buy this kind of knives, but ..... hey, how could I miss Wenger making a knife to commemorate its own town of Delémont?
This commemorative for the 700 years of the Ville de Delémont (1289-1989) should not be confused with the more comon commemoratives for the 700 years of the Swiss Confederation (1291-1991), which were made two years later, in 1991.
Neat find! :tu:
Here's a special limited edition Wenger for Longines Watches. Basically its a Pointer with the can opener replaced by a watch case opener.
Here's a special limited edition Wenger for Longines Watches. Basically its a Pointer with the can opener replaced by a watch case opener.
Nice find!
I have one too, that I bought back in 2012
http://forum.multitool.org/index.php/topic,32456.msg657624.html#msg657624
I remember that, despite being listed on ebay Italy (where usually Wenger knives don't get much attention), it was quite an expensive purchase.
Mine was a mint model with the original box, but I suspect there are a lot of watch collectors who buy everything related to watch brands.
Mail call....
Wenger Mustang (no imprint)
and
Pre '75 Highlander? Instead of a keyring, it has a hole in the liner and a S shaped wire loop attachment. Can anyone nail the ID down for me?
Could you repost the pictures in the "Wenger topic"?
I'm not so expert on very old models, so perhaps Coloswiss could answer you on the second knife.
The first one is actually interesting.
There are few things that make me thinking about a possible no-Mustang option.
The tweezers I can see on the front scale (Mustang had none)
The newer type corkscrew (4 turns), while the Mustang usually had the older 5-turns type.
Because of the corkscrew, could be a cyclist (european version) with the scales replaced.
How is the back scale?
Is there the "patent pending" inscription on the cap lifter (which should lock)? Mustang had the older type.
That's a cool one Jean-Claude! :tu:
+2 I have to say :D ... great call btw ;)That's a cool one Jean-Claude! :tu:
+1 I'll say!!!!
I bought two old wenger. All kolletion of old knives
The three-faced logo in the third photo is pre-World War II, though I don't have a definitive date range. Some sources say its a stylized Matterhorn.
I bought old wenger of the PROF series. Very interesting inscription on the main blade.
Hi, guys.
I made a new box of wenger with different scales.
Thanks guys.
Many knives aren't enough yet.
Thanks guys.
Many knives aren't enough yet.
Hehe, they are never enough....
I think that a soft touch and a evo translucent model would fit well in your display.
My last knife of the SWISSMEMORY (1.94.00.903) seriesWithout checking I can see:
Congrats, that is totally awesome Basilio!!!!! :cheers: The Motorist is one of my fav Wenger patterns!!!!+1 :tu:
Hey, long time no post on this topic.
So, here is my last purchase from Japan.
Model 1.39.03.02 (known as "Motorist") with black scales and old car image (first attachment). Never saw this model before!
Some time ago I had found (from Japan) the same knife in black, but without the car image (old picture already posted in the forum/wiki, second attachment).
And last is the same knife with the "quattro" logo (and leather pouch). I believe this was probably a promo knife for the Audi quattro (third attachment). I'm no expert on cars, but the logo seems the same.
Just a question : where do you find Wenger "made for Japan market" ?
Hello all !Swiza S(a)Ks (http://forum.multitool.org/index.php/topic,62681.0.html)
Wenger is dead ? Not at all !!!
In Delemont, Peter Hug (The last boss of Wenger) create a new knives manufacture with SWIZA (a prestigious clock manufacture since 1904).
It's a real scoop !!!
According to information of Swiss newspapers, many employees of Victorinox-Wenger Factory of Delemont leave their work to work in the new Swiza factory with Peter Hug... Victorinox does not comment...
Sad (I think) to hear Vic/Wenger employees bailed.....Well, I think Vic workplaces are more secure. And how many are many? That said, it's unsurprising. Being taken over by a company from the German speaking part does not sit well with many in the French speaking part (might as well be a Chinese company).
Sad (I think) to hear Vic/Wenger employees bailed.....Well, I think Vic workplaces are more secure. And how many are many? That said, it's unsurprising. Being taken over by a company from the German speaking part does not sit well with many in the French speaking part (might as well be a Chinese company).
Hello all !Swiza S(a)Ks (http://forum.multitool.org/index.php/topic,62681.0.html)
Wenger is dead ? Not at all !!!
In Delemont, Peter Hug (The last boss of Wenger) create a new knives manufacture with SWIZA (a prestigious clock manufacture since 1904).
It's a real scoop !!!
According to information of Swiss newspapers, many employees of Victorinox-Wenger Factory of Delemont leave their work to work in the new Swiza factory with Peter Hug... Victorinox does not comment...
Swiza in the OBC (http://forum.multitool.org/index.php/topic,62284.msg1170782.html#msg1170782)Sad (I think) to hear Vic/Wenger employees bailed.....Well, I think Vic workplaces are more secure. And how many are many? That said, it's unsurprising. Being taken over by a company from the German speaking part does not sit well with many in the French speaking part (might as well be a Chinese company).
Um... no! The Wenger brand is still strong (the only thing they don't make anymore is SAKs, the part that brought the company down).Hello all !Swiza S(a)Ks (http://forum.multitool.org/index.php/topic,62681.0.html)
Wenger is dead ? Not at all !!!
In Delemont, Peter Hug (The last boss of Wenger) create a new knives manufacture with SWIZA (a prestigious clock manufacture since 1904).
It's a real scoop !!!
According to information of Swiss newspapers, many employees of Victorinox-Wenger Factory of Delemont leave their work to work in the new Swiza factory with Peter Hug... Victorinox does not comment...
Swiza in the OBC (http://forum.multitool.org/index.php/topic,62284.msg1170782.html#msg1170782)Sad (I think) to hear Vic/Wenger employees bailed.....Well, I think Vic workplaces are more secure. And how many are many? That said, it's unsurprising. Being taken over by a company from the German speaking part does not sit well with many in the French speaking part (might as well be a Chinese company).
How many are many ? LOL I don't know exactly but Peter has surrounded himself with some of his former staff, as Mrs Rebecca Käslin (communication manager of Wenger) now vice president communication and I suppose lot of former wenger people who never accept the end of the "Wenger spirit of innovation".
I don't believe it's a problem of French speaking or German speaking. Swiss people can work together without problem and it was the case for Wenger and Victorinox between 2005 and 2013. The problem is when Father Elsener bought Wenger in 2005, he promised to preserve the brand and the production of Wenger, but his son didn't respect this promise in 2013.
Swiss people can forgive lot of things but never a promise not respected.
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Being Swiss ;) and having friends in Delemont, I think it is at least parts Röstigraben (imaginary line between French and German speaking Switzerland).
Kinda my point......
Being Swiss ;) and having friends in Delemont, I think it is at least parts Röstigraben (imaginary line between French and German speaking Switzerland).
Ach ! The röstigraben !!! Yes of course ! So swiss LOL !
But I'm not sure it's the only reason.
Wenger is still strong but for watches, backpacks... Not for Wenger knives production.
I visited the Wenger factory in December 2013... All employees were very sad. the Wenger brand was like a flag for them, they had shared so many woes and joys together... It was like a defeated army, a tragedy. And it was also a tragedy for collectors of Wenger knives !
Wenger Factory in December 2013 and August 2014...
(http://i39.servimg.com/u/f39/12/24/75/57/vicdel11.jpg)
Kinda my point......
Being Swiss ;) and having friends in Delemont, I think it is at least parts Röstigraben (imaginary line between French and German speaking Switzerland).
Ach ! The röstigraben !!! Yes of course ! So swiss LOL !
But I'm not sure it's the only reason.
Wenger is still strong but for watches, backpacks... Not for Wenger knives production.
I visited the Wenger factory in December 2013... All employees were very sad. the Wenger brand was like a flag for them, they had shared so many woes and joys together... It was like a defeated army, a tragedy. And it was also a tragedy for collectors of Wenger knives !
Wenger Factory in December 2013 and August 2014...
(http://i39.servimg.com/u/f39/12/24/75/57/vicdel11.jpg)
Wenger goes bankrup, Vic takes over and gives Wenger and its employees an extremely sweet deal... still everybody is complaining :shrug:
PMed you a more detailed answer, this is after all the "Love Wenger" thread so only this:Kinda my point......
Being Swiss ;) and having friends in Delemont, I think it is at least parts Röstigraben (imaginary line between French and German speaking Switzerland).
Ach ! The röstigraben !!! Yes of course ! So swiss LOL !
But I'm not sure it's the only reason.
Wenger is still strong but for watches, backpacks... Not for Wenger knives production.
I visited the Wenger factory in December 2013... All employees were very sad. the Wenger brand was like a flag for them, they had shared so many woes and joys together... It was like a defeated army, a tragedy. And it was also a tragedy for collectors of Wenger knives !
Wenger Factory in December 2013 and August 2014...
(http://i39.servimg.com/u/f39/12/24/75/57/vicdel11.jpg)
Wenger goes bankrup, Vic takes over and gives Wenger and its employees an extremely sweet deal... still everybody is complaining :shrug:
I understand what you mean but... Human is human, not robot...
Wenger goes bankrup, that's OK in 2005.
Vic takes over and gives Wenger and its employees an extremely sweet deal, that's OK between 2005 and 2013.
Between 2005 and 2013, it was a good wedding : Wenger grows up and makes money with the Wenger Brand, Wenger knives, Wenger expertise, Wenger innovation, etc. Victorinox also won money with Wenger and Victorinox grows up too. In fact it was a good deal for everybody a "win-win" deal.
But... At the end of 2013 Vic changed the rules and killed the brand Wenger, killed the boss and other people of management team, killed the production of knives... It was an error. It was an error in human strategy...
The only rule to apply in that case is : "No change in a rugby team when the team wins".
My idea is Vic said at the end of 2013 : "I am the boss and I do all I want because I have the juridical right to do it" Yes of course !!! But... It doesn't work in all cases even with the juridical right ! And the "röstigraben" is there !
Nobody can make a "revolution" in a 120 years old factory without having human problems...
Americans investors or chinese investors buy luxury hotels in Paris or Bordeaux vineyard but without making "revolution" and it works !
I'm sorry but what is the result now ? Victorinox spent money to absorb a competitor and an other new competitor born ! It's not a win strategy...
PMed you a more detailed answer, this is after all the "Love Wenger" thread so only this:Kinda my point......
Being Swiss ;) and having friends in Delemont, I think it is at least parts Röstigraben (imaginary line between French and German speaking Switzerland).
Ach ! The röstigraben !!! Yes of course ! So swiss LOL !
But I'm not sure it's the only reason.
Wenger is still strong but for watches, backpacks... Not for Wenger knives production.
I visited the Wenger factory in December 2013... All employees were very sad. the Wenger brand was like a flag for them, they had shared so many woes and joys together... It was like a defeated army, a tragedy. And it was also a tragedy for collectors of Wenger knives !
Wenger Factory in December 2013 and August 2014...
(http://i39.servimg.com/u/f39/12/24/75/57/vicdel11.jpg)
Wenger goes bankrup, Vic takes over and gives Wenger and its employees an extremely sweet deal... still everybody is complaining :shrug:
I understand what you mean but... Human is human, not robot...
Wenger goes bankrup, that's OK in 2005.
Vic takes over and gives Wenger and its employees an extremely sweet deal, that's OK between 2005 and 2013.
Between 2005 and 2013, it was a good wedding : Wenger grows up and makes money with the Wenger Brand, Wenger knives, Wenger expertise, Wenger innovation, etc. Victorinox also won money with Wenger and Victorinox grows up too. In fact it was a good deal for everybody a "win-win" deal.
But... At the end of 2013 Vic changed the rules and killed the brand Wenger, killed the boss and other people of management team, killed the production of knives... It was an error. It was an error in human strategy...
The only rule to apply in that case is : "No change in a rugby team when the team wins".
My idea is Vic said at the end of 2013 : "I am the boss and I do all I want because I have the juridical right to do it" Yes of course !!! But... It doesn't work in all cases even with the juridical right ! And the "röstigraben" is there !
Nobody can make a "revolution" in a 120 years old factory without having human problems...
Americans investors or chinese investors buy luxury hotels in Paris or Bordeaux vineyard but without making "revolution" and it works !
I'm sorry but what is the result now ? Victorinox spent money to absorb a competitor and an other new competitor born ! It's not a win strategy...
Wenger was not a winning team... bankruptcy is not a victory.
Anyone have any knowledge of this knife? Tang stamp "Wenger & CIE Delemont with nothing on the reverse, if I had to say, either carbon steel or very crude/early stainless experimental. Metallic scales.
Very cool! So I have the first Alox? My tang stamp is different than the one you restored?
So, this is essentially the proto-Farmer?
So, this is essentially the proto-Farmer?
Except that Farmer is a Victorinox, and this is a Wenger.
So, this is essentially the proto-Farmer?
Except that Farmer is a Victorinox, and this is a Wenger.
I know that but I'm not sure when did Vic first make Alox hence my question :salute:
Proto-Farmer would be the farmer line of knives with wooden scales Victorinox used to make. We have that catalog in the wiki. And Vic used aluminium scales earlier than those models shown here. Jazzbass has an Officer's knife that's older.So, this is essentially the proto-Farmer?
Except that Farmer is a Victorinox, and this is a Wenger.
I know that but I'm not sure when did Vic first make Alox hence my question :salute:
So, this is essentially the proto-Farmer?
Except that Farmer is a Victorinox, and this is a Wenger.
I know that but I'm not sure when did Vic first make Alox hence my question :salute:
Vic made first Aluminium scales (not alox) like Wenger in 1910's, but I don't know who was the first (Vic or Wenger) ! LOL
Jazzbass's SAK from 1903
http://forum.multitool.org/index.php?topic=51070.0
And farm/work knives gallery that look much like the ALOX models of later years.
http://www.sakwiki.com/tiki-browse_gallery.php?galleryId=116
Hello all !
Some body knows the reference or the mame of the 2nd Ranger (at right) ?
(http://www.jcfiguet.com/images/Ebay/ranger198cas/99.jpg)
It seems these knives are not in the Wiki, or I didn't find them...
Hello all !
Some body knows the reference or the mame of the 2nd Ranger (at right) ?
(http://www.jcfiguet.com/images/Ebay/ranger198cas/99.jpg)
It seems these knives are not in the Wiki, or I didn't find them...
It's hard to find it on net as well :shrug:
There is nothing I loath more than a brand like that. Has nothing to do with Switzerland or Mountaineering, they also place a genuine Wenger among junk, label it "made in Switzerland" so people believe everything is made in Switzerland...Hello all !
Some body knows the reference or the mame of the 2nd Ranger (at right) ?
(http://www.jcfiguet.com/images/Ebay/ranger198cas/99.jpg)
It seems these knives are not in the Wiki, or I didn't find them...
It's hard to find it on net as well :shrug:
On the net it's not possible but if somebody has the guenuine box with the good reference, it will be fabulous !
Hello all !
Some body knows the reference or the mame of the 2nd Ranger (at right) ?
(http://www.jcfiguet.com/images/Ebay/ranger198cas/99.jpg)
It seems these knives are not in the Wiki, or I didn't find them...
Currently being manufactured in Swiza factory, the "Hello SWIZA Knives" (the first Swiza limited series in 2015 for "Les Couteaux du Soldat de l'Armée Suisse")
(http://i68.servimg.com/u/f68/12/24/75/57/maquet10.jpg)
(http://i68.servimg.com/u/f68/12/24/75/57/maquet11.jpg)
Hello all !
Some body knows the reference or the mame of the 2nd Ranger (at right) ?
(http://www.jcfiguet.com/images/Ebay/ranger198cas/99.jpg)
It seems these knives are not in the Wiki, or I didn't find them...
The only reference I have is the name written on the same image you posted.
AC/KNI.1.
I have also saved a picture of the AC/KNI.3, which is different as well (see attachment).
I saw it listed somewhere some time ago, did try to buy it but never got any answer.
This one is a Ranger 198 with alpine club reference AC/SMK1 (Black) and AC/SMK2 (Yellow)
An similar knife (non one-hand blade) exists : Ranger 162 with alpine club reference AC/KNI.1 (Black) this reference was given by Coloswiss
Here my personal Wiki for Ranger knives 130 mm:
excel file to download (http://www.jcfiguet.com/CDM/images/doc/Wenger/Wiki/Wiki_Wenger_130_mm.xlsm) last update 11/17/2015
This one is a Ranger 198 with alpine club reference AC/SMK1 (Black) and AC/SMK2 (Yellow)
An similar knife (non one-hand blade) exists : Ranger 162 with alpine club reference AC/KNI.1 (Black) this reference was given by Coloswiss
Here my personal Wiki for Ranger knives 130 mm:
excel file to download (http://www.jcfiguet.com/CDM/images/doc/Wenger/Wiki/Wiki_Wenger_130_mm.xlsm) last update 11/17/2015
No Jean Claude,
it is not.
if you look closely you'll see that the knife I posted is missing the saw, the openers and reamer on back.
(http://i.imgur.com/DekxH27.jpg)
That's an interesting "Unknown Model" you got there!
I really like my Wenger Evo S18.The locking blade is nice and the evo scales make it look and feel great.It is my main pocket carry SAK.
Quidquid latine dictum sit, altum sonatur
These are mine :cheers:
To be honest I didn't see this one yet. It is an interesting model but misses two essential tools in my opinion: the can opener and the corkscrew :)
What is the model number?
:climber:
Maybe somewhen I will get over it and try building one myself. Although I can't think of anything the ones I have do not yet incorporate already.
I just wish Vic would make the East ranger and/or Rescue II again just with their modifications and green scales.
Initially I bought two pairs of green scales so I can swap them but then decided to keep them as they were.
My only Wenger, so far..... :D
Got few in the other day!!! :2tu:
Ranger 55 Blaze
(http://i833.photobucket.com/albums/zz256/SAKGuy/Blaze%2055%20amp%20Tapio_zpscnivikio.jpg)
And a few 85's....
(http://i833.photobucket.com/albums/zz256/SAKGuy/Wengers%201-27-16_zpsuxdcwlt0.jpg)
I can save you having to find room for your new arrivals SG....send them to me and I'll even pay the postage!! Nice collection sir! :tu: :tu: :tu:Got few in the other day!!! :2tu:
Ranger 55 Blaze
(http://i833.photobucket.com/albums/zz256/SAKGuy/Blaze%2055%20amp%20Tapio_zpscnivikio.jpg)
And a few 85's....
(http://i833.photobucket.com/albums/zz256/SAKGuy/Wengers%201-27-16_zpsuxdcwlt0.jpg)
On the hunt for a Wenger Flyfisherman, I've had some responses. I don't see a Flyfisherman in this group, but am not sure what they are. I believe one is a Trout and the other a Fisherman. SG, can you tell?
On the hunt for a Wenger Flyfisherman, I've had some responses. I don't see a Flyfisherman in this group, but am not sure what they are. I believe one is a Trout and the other a Fisherman. SG, can you tell?
I don't recognize the imprint of the one from the top :think:
On the hunt for a Wenger Flyfisherman, I've had some responses. I don't see a Flyfisherman in this group, but am not sure what they are. I believe one is a Trout and the other a Fisherman. SG, can you tell?
I don't recognize the imprint of the one from the top :think:
Here is my largest Wenger. I bought it used about 10 years ago for $15
Matterhorn:
(http://i198.photobucket.com/albums/aa284/DaveB58/Knives/SAKs/Wenger/Matterhorn/IMG_1349.jpg)
(http://i198.photobucket.com/albums/aa284/DaveB58/Knives/SAKs/Wenger/Matterhorn/IMG_1350.jpg)
The scales and inline phillips screwdriver are a bit worn but all of the other tools are like new.
On the hunt for a Wenger Flyfisherman, I've had some responses. I don't see a Flyfisherman in this group, but am not sure what they are. I believe one is a Trout and the other a Fisherman. SG, can you tell?
I don't recognize the imprint of the one from the top :think:
Nice one Dave! If for nothing else, I prefer the Wenger can opener and scissors. What awesome tools.
On the hunt for a Wenger Flyfisherman, I've had some responses. I don't see a Flyfisherman in this group, but am not sure what they are. I believe one is a Trout and the other a Fisherman. SG, can you tell?
I don't recognize the imprint of the one from the top :think:
I believe it's the later Fisherman logo also appearing on the EVO Fisherman (19). ColoSwiss has one on Classic Style scales in his pic! :2tu:
Fisherman 19 (seller's pic)
(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41QQVR-V8DL._SS160_.jpg)
The knives are in Holland at the moment, so I don't know if there is a variant directed just to that market. The seller is asking $100 USD for the three of them. I appreciate everyone's help with this, as I'm learning the SAK game as I go along, especially Wengers. My son has a real attraction for the Flyfisherman, as that is his hobby, and loves Wengers too. Prior to my joining the forum, I had a lone Vic Huntsman that I got new in '83, a Classic from '85, and a late '90's PST. Now my collection is growing to the point that I might be sleeping with it in my 71 VW Camper lol!! You guys are awesome and I really appreciate the education and the help. :tu: :tu:On the hunt for a Wenger Flyfisherman, I've had some responses. I don't see a Flyfisherman in this group, but am not sure what they are. I believe one is a Trout and the other a Fisherman. SG, can you tell?
I don't recognize the imprint of the one from the top :think:
On the hunt for a Wenger Flyfisherman, I've had some responses. I don't see a Flyfisherman in this group, but am not sure what they are. I believe one is a Trout and the other a Fisherman. SG, can you tell?
I don't recognize the imprint of the one from the top :think:
I believe it's the later Fisherman logo also appearing on the EVO Fisherman (19). ColoSwiss has one on Classic Style scales in his pic! :2tu:
Fisherman 19 (seller's pic)
(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41QQVR-V8DL._SS160_.jpg)
The stylized trout is not the logo appearing on the top knife in the photo. Hard to tell, but it looks like it might be a fish on a line. :think:
According to my 1 cup of coffee google-fu this morning, this is a variant of the fly fisherman (cat # 1.19.25) with a trout printed on the scale instead of a fly. The outside back springs are a bit weak, but the blade/tools are all like new.
(http://i198.photobucket.com/albums/aa284/DaveB58/Knives/SAKs/Wenger/Fly%20Fisherman%20Variant/IMG_1357.jpg)
I just noticed the missing tweezers :-[. Surprisingly (to me) there isn't a place for a toothpick on the other scale :think:
Had one with screwdriver land today...
NIB Wenger/Precise LL Bean Swiss Sportsman.
(http://i833.photobucket.com/albums/zz256/SAKGuy/LLB%20Swiss%20Sportsman2_zpsc9381tl6.jpg)
Had one with screwdriver land today...
NIB Wenger/Precise LL Bean Swiss Sportsman.
(http://i833.photobucket.com/albums/zz256/SAKGuy/LLB%20Swiss%20Sportsman2_zpsc9381tl6.jpg)
So nice and so rare with its Precise paper
I just won one on EBay....appears to be a 4 layer with scissors, saw, etc. and a Philips head and punch on the backstrap. Pictures to follow....I can hardly wait for it to get here! I haven't had a chance to figure out the model, but it only cost me $11.50. :D
I'm really liking my new to me Handyman. It carries like a dream, especially for a 4 layer. The blade is razor sharp, and the scissors are a dream! It's been in my pocket since I cleaned it up, and I think we're going on many an adventure together :D
I'm really liking my new to me Handyman. It carries like a dream, especially for a 4 layer. The blade is razor sharp, and the scissors are a dream! It's been in my pocket since I cleaned it up, and I think we're going on many an adventure together :D
I guarantee it Moonweasel. 2 months ago I had zero. Now I've 2 and just picked up one for my son....once you start you can't stop!! :ahhh
Computer Wiz....
Computer Wiz....
(http://i833.photobucket.com/albums/zz256/SAKGuy/obverse_zps1mdse0at.jpg)
(http://i833.photobucket.com/albums/zz256/SAKGuy/reverse_zpsjtng3zvz.jpg)
Computer Wiz....
(http://i833.photobucket.com/albums/zz256/SAKGuy/obverse_zps1mdse0at.jpg)
(http://i833.photobucket.com/albums/zz256/SAKGuy/reverse_zpsjtng3zvz.jpg)
I like the UNH advert!
Computer Wiz....
(http://i833.photobucket.com/albums/zz256/SAKGuy/obverse_zps1mdse0at.jpg)
(http://i833.photobucket.com/albums/zz256/SAKGuy/reverse_zpsjtng3zvz.jpg)
I like the UNH advert!
Thanks!!! It earned it a place on the Wiki!!!! :salute:
Variation 2
http://www.sakwiki.com/tiki-index.php?page=Wenger+Computer+Wiz
Computer Wiz....
(http://i833.photobucket.com/albums/zz256/SAKGuy/obverse_zps1mdse0at.jpg)
(http://i833.photobucket.com/albums/zz256/SAKGuy/reverse_zpsjtng3zvz.jpg)
I like the UNH advert!
Thanks!!! It earned it a place on the Wiki!!!! :salute:
Variation 2
http://www.sakwiki.com/tiki-index.php?page=Wenger+Computer+Wiz
Very cool, you're famous. I wan't to be on the wiki!
We are also in the Wiki ! >:D
http://www.sakwiki.com/tiki-index.php?page=Forester#Variations_
http://www.sakwiki.com/show_image.php?id=3268
It was an honor !
Computer Wiz....
(http://i833.photobucket.com/albums/zz256/SAKGuy/obverse_zps1mdse0at.jpg)
(http://i833.photobucket.com/albums/zz256/SAKGuy/reverse_zpsjtng3zvz.jpg)
I like the UNH advert!
Thanks!!! It earned it a place on the Wiki!!!! :salute:
Variation 2
http://www.sakwiki.com/tiki-index.php?page=Wenger+Computer+Wiz
Computer Wiz....
(http://i833.photobucket.com/albums/zz256/SAKGuy/obverse_zps1mdse0at.jpg)
(http://i833.photobucket.com/albums/zz256/SAKGuy/reverse_zpsjtng3zvz.jpg)
I like the UNH advert!
Thanks!!! It earned it a place on the Wiki!!!! :salute:
Variation 2
http://www.sakwiki.com/tiki-index.php?page=Wenger+Computer+Wiz
Congrats SAK Guy. :cheers:
On a different note, how can you be able to narrow down the vintage on a Wenger? As my collection keeps growing, I'd love to know how much history some of them have lived. Does Victorinox honor the Wenger warranty now that they are the parent company?
On a different note, how can you be able to narrow down the vintage on a Wenger? As my collection keeps growing, I'd love to know how much history some of them have lived. Does Victorinox honor the Wenger warranty now that they are the parent company?
Thanks JC! PM sent. I'm a growing Wenger fan, with 5 in my household at the present! :ahhh
Thanks JC! PM sent. I'm a growing Wenger fan, with 5 in my household at the present! :ahhh
Only five ? I own more 600 ! LOL :D
5, It's a good begining ! :cheers:
I aspire to have half that many!!Thanks JC! PM sent. I'm a growing Wenger fan, with 5 in my household at the present! :ahhh
Only five ? I own more 600 ! LOL :D
5, It's a good begining ! :cheers:
:drool: :drool: :drool: I love it Robert!
That's a nice one buddy :tu:
One of my oldest Wengers is this is an Adventurer from the early 1970s. When I found it, it was super cruddy.. I gave it 30 minutes in an ultra-sonic cleaner filled with Windex and it was better but not clean by any measure.
(http://i198.photobucket.com/albums/aa284/DaveB58/Knives/SAKs/Wenger/Adventrer/ADVENTURER1.jpg)
I like it Dave! Some of the best knives are the ones you got to clean up and show some love. :cheers:
Very nice, I like the design of the can opener, it looks a bit "different" from others.
Very nice, I like the design of the can opener, it looks a bit "different" from others.
I haven't used this particular knife's can opener, but I have used another Wenger dog-leg type can opener some years ago. It works, but it leaves quite a ragged can lid that is a pain to dispose of. I much prefer the newer Wenger opener and the current Victorinox is the best opener on a knife - OMO.
Yes ! Impressive collection !!! :drool:One :think: There should be at least three 130mm Alinghi knifes (can't tell the black ones apart but presumably he would have put them together). And certainly the red Alinghi knife is missing.
But one is missing!... >:D
Yes ! Impressive collection !!! :drool:One :think: There should be at least three 130mm Alinghi knifes (can't tell the black ones apart but presumably he would have put them together). And certainly the red Alinghi knife is missing.
But one is missing!... >:D
Well, I was not joking but I was wrong, there are 4 Alinghi knifesYes ! Impressive collection !!! :drool:One :think: There should be at least three 130mm Alinghi knifes (can't tell the black ones apart but presumably he would have put them together). And certainly the red Alinghi knife is missing.
But one is missing!... >:D
Lol of course and the Ranger 198 and... I just wanted to tease Tosh...
But anyway it's a nice collection.
Well, I was not joking but I was wrong, there are 4 Alinghi knifesYes ! Impressive collection !!! :drool:One :think: There should be at least three 130mm Alinghi knifes (can't tell the black ones apart but presumably he would have put them together). And certainly the red Alinghi knife is missing.
But one is missing!... >:D
Lol of course and the Ranger 198 and... I just wanted to tease Tosh...
But anyway it's a nice collection.
176, 177, 171 and:
(http://forum.multitool.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=48944.0;attach=89715;image)
Yes ! Impressive collection !!! :drool:One :think: There should be at least three 130mm Alinghi knifes (can't tell the black ones apart but presumably he would have put them together). And certainly the red Alinghi knife is missing.
But one is missing!... >:D
I would like to take this one in my hands ! Just one time !!! :cheers:
...
@ JC. - I've deliberately left room for a Ranger Giant :D :pok: :pok:
Impressive collection tosh :cheers:
Impressive collection tosh :cheers:
Blk Traveler....I have really got to get myself a some version of that knife. a 3 layer 85mm with corkscrew and scissors would very quickly replace my Climber in my rotation.
(http://i833.photobucket.com/albums/zz256/SAKGuy/Blk%20Traveler_zpslv0wkdhm.jpg)
Love the look of those Black Wenger's :tu:
Blk Traveler....I have really got to get myself a some version of that knife. a 3 layer 85mm with corkscrew and scissors would very quickly replace my Climber in my rotation.
(http://i833.photobucket.com/albums/zz256/SAKGuy/Blk%20Traveler_zpslv0wkdhm.jpg)
Love the look of those Black Wenger's :tu:
They are pretty awesome looking!!! :cheers:
Blk Traveler....I have really got to get myself a some version of that knife. a 3 layer 85mm with corkscrew and scissors would very quickly replace my Climber in my rotation.
(http://i833.photobucket.com/albums/zz256/SAKGuy/Blk%20Traveler_zpslv0wkdhm.jpg)
And get one of these:
http://www.sakwiki.com/tiki-index.php?page=Wenger+Swiss+Sportsman
And get an inline flat Phillips! :2tu:
I'll be toting one tomorrow... :cheers:
Love the look of those Black Wenger's :tu:
They are pretty awesome looking!!! :cheers:
They seem to be few and far between.
Wenger Soft Touch? Evo knife with clip point, and serrated scissorsWhat were you after, then?
Are these rare? I got it in a grab bag, it wasn't the knife I was after.
Wenger Soft Touch? Evo knife with clip point, and serrated scissorsWhat were you after, then?
Are these rare? I got it in a grab bag, it wasn't the knife I was after.
Sent from my outdated communication device using an obsolete application
Stainless or Aluminum scaled Wenger Tahara for Neiman Marcus?
extremely good shape, snaps like a bear trap and its definitely a nail breaker. I've never seen one of these even on the multi tool museum.
Stainless or Aluminum scaled Wenger Tahara for Neiman Marcus?
extremely good shape, snaps like a bear trap and its definitely a nail breaker. I've never seen one of these even on the multi tool museum.
Don't think I've seen that version with a scissors before. A rare knife! :tu:
Here's an earlier thread with several similar knives. Yours appears to have a more modern awl.
http://forum.multitool.org/index.php/topic,54113.msg937082.html#msg937082
Stainless or Aluminum scaled Wenger Tahara for Neiman Marcus?
extremely good shape, snaps like a bear trap and its definitely a nail breaker. I've never seen one of these even on the multi tool museum.
Stainless or Aluminum scaled Wenger Tahara for Neiman Marcus?
extremely good shape, snaps like a bear trap and its definitely a nail breaker. I've never seen one of these even on the multi tool museum.
Looks great Dave! Mine are the same way...the stainless that Wenger used sure seemed to hold up well.
Looks great Dave! Mine are the same way...the stainless that Wenger used sure seemed to hold up well.
I'm also impressed by the lack of corrosion on the Wenger liners. My older Vic's liners have much more corrosion than the liners in my older Wengers. The finish on the Wenger's steel is also a bit better, I suppose it could be from getting less use than the Vics do. In any case, I have been fortunate to acquire several Wengers with pocket wear on the scales and ZERO evidence of use :ahhh
+1!!!!
Robert, they are NICE!!!! :drool: :tu:
Recently won an auction for this beastly 6 layer vintage Wenger listed as a Suisse Multi Tool Pocket Knife Red. There was little action as a result of the listing title, however there was a bit of a bid war within the last hour of the auction and I ended up with it for what I feel was very reasonable. I'm excited to get it in, these are the listing pictures. I believe it has the rare snow scraper.
Wenger Master Sportsman's Knife? http://www.multi-tool.org...vintage-swiss-army-knives (http://www.multi-tool.org/vintage-swiss-army-knives)
Finally dug out a few Swiss Sportsman Wengers....here are the three colors in atotally weirdcreative pic. The green one is the scarce serrated version.
Great find PileDriver02128!! :salute:Finally dug out a few Swiss Sportsman Wengers....here are the three colors in atotally weirdcreative pic. The green one is the scarce serrated version.
I have a few of these. Looking to snatch up more since they are discontinued. I'll be honest, I basically consider this knife the perfect EDC. The flat phillips has so much more utility than the nail file.
Inline phillips? Check. Beastly Wenger can opener? Check. Corkscrew? Check. Locking blade? Check.
It is amazing.
Great pic Robert :tu: :tu: :tu:
Great pic Robert :tu: :tu: :tu:
Great pic Robert :tu: :tu: :tu:
+1 :cheers:
Terex had its main crane manufacturing factory in my town.Wenger Soft Touch? Evo knife with clip point, and serrated scissorsWhat were you after, then?
Are these rare? I got it in a grab bag, it wasn't the knife I was after.
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A red Alox advertising knife for Terex GM, the original "Euc".
http://www.curbsideclassic.com/blog/trucks-and-heavy-equipment/highway-side-classic-1973-terex-titan-33-19-the-worlds-biggest-truck/
They also manufacture cranes, I have a few American lattice boom crawler cranes which Terex eventually bought out
:tu: :tu:
Nice John :tu: :tu:
Robert I've made room upstairs to help you house your Wengers when you run outta room in Texas!! I'll even drive down to pick them up for you!! :cheers:
Robert I've made room upstairs to help you house your Wengers when you run outta room in Texas!! I'll even drive down to pick them up for you!! :cheers:
:rofl: :rofl: :cheers:
The King Arthur has the fish near the bottom; the Lancelot has a hunter in the same location. Both models also came in plain black versions with only the crest.Thanks - Awesome picture showing the difference thanks for clarifying the differences. I'm gonna hold on to this one but just curious to know how common it is.
The Lancelot had 11 blades. The Arthur had 13 blades (added inline phillips and universal wrench). The Arthur also has greater detail on the animals (note the wings on the pheasants).
By the way, welcome aboard! Nice knife! :cheers:
They're part of the Dynasty series. Fairly uncommon, and out of production for over 20 years.Thanks for the link that's a great resource site.
http://www.sakwiki.com/tiki-index.php?page=Wenger+Dynasty+Series
Nice score Zeph!!!!! Congrats!! :cheers:
Corona Traveler....Nice choice in advertising
(http://i833.photobucket.com/albums/zz256/SAKGuy/My%20Corona_zpsbq53wzdd.jpg)
Corona Traveler....Nice choice in advertising
(http://i833.photobucket.com/albums/zz256/SAKGuy/My%20Corona_zpsbq53wzdd.jpg)
I just placed an order for a Wenger Cigar 79! Been tempted by these for years and finally decided to jump on one. Anyone here have/use one? Would love some pics while I wait for mine to arrive.
I just placed an order for a Wenger Cigar 79! Been tempted by these for years and finally decided to jump on one. Anyone here have/use one? Would love some pics while I wait for mine to arrive.
I have the Vic 36 and Wenger Original (between the 36 and 79). Love them, they work great!!!!!! A nice clean cut on stogies.
My 36 lives in my cigar travel box and my Orig is one of my knife bags.
Some pix of both:
That's a nice one Clown! How do you like the clipper? I have a cigar from time to time, and was thinking about this knife the last time I had some with some friends.
Sweeeeett!!!!!! :tu: :tu: I want one!
Cigar 79 showed up today. I love it! Can't wait to try it out :)
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Can't beat the reception Glen!! :D
:drool: :drool: Yud that Evo looks awesome!! :drool: :drool:
Those look great!!!!
My only Evo at the moment :D
Very nice ICFT! :cheers:
+1 :tu: :tu:Very nice ICFT! :cheers:
Mike Horn Duo
(http://i833.photobucket.com/albums/zz256/SAKGuy/Wenger%20Mike%20Horn%20Duo_zpsiakmv8vc.jpg)
Mike Horn Duo
(http://i833.photobucket.com/albums/zz256/SAKGuy/Wenger%20Mike%20Horn%20Duo_zpsiakmv8vc.jpg)
Mike Horn Duo
(http://i833.photobucket.com/albums/zz256/SAKGuy/Wenger%20Mike%20Horn%20Duo_zpsiakmv8vc.jpg)
What are these, special editions??
Had a nice night last night after a week of rain. Decided to sit by a fire for a couple hours. Loving this Cigar 79!
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(http://i441.photobucket.com/albums/qq140/smcclown/Mobile%20Uploads/20160514_220531.jpg) (http://s441.photobucket.com/user/smcclown/media/Mobile%20Uploads/20160514_220531.jpg.html)
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Thanks Barry. That Hoyo was quite good.
Army Knife
I love that dark blue.
so that almost all of my wenger knife.Really nice collection! :salute:
I really do not collect pocket knives, :D :D :D but ethnological knives and daggers.
anyway, my goal: to have the development of the officer knife all blade Marks.
I'm looking for collectors who possess exceptional (rare) Blade Marks of Wenger (Coutellerie Suisse)
:sa: that is beautiful!
Just arrived:
(http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160520/4d0555c3f80e125dc52fe9577cde4c00.jpg)
Titanium scales
and a pushbutton liner lock like on the 130mms
and a bit driver
Ironically, I just found one of those in antique shop just the other dayTerex had its main crane manufacturing factory in my town.Wenger Soft Touch? Evo knife with clip point, and serrated scissorsWhat were you after, then?
Are these rare? I got it in a grab bag, it wasn't the knife I was after.
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A red Alox advertising knife for Terex GM, the original "Euc".
http://www.curbsideclassic.com/blog/trucks-and-heavy-equipment/highway-side-classic-1973-terex-titan-33-19-the-worlds-biggest-truck/
They also manufacture cranes, I have a few American lattice boom crawler cranes which Terex eventually bought out
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a few others
bottom left, a super rare knife coutellerie suisse
(http://i1375.photobucket.com/albums/ag474/travex/forums/wenger-24_zpscng7fp0g.jpg)I really do have to get me one of these.
Army KnifeHoly cow! How did you get ahold of the original soldiers knife
(http://i1375.photobucket.com/albums/ag474/travex/forums/wenger-24_zpscng7fp0g.jpg)I really do have to get me one of these.
It would fit in well with these guys.(http://i1375.photobucket.com/albums/ag474/travex/forums/wenger-24_zpscng7fp0g.jpg)I really do have to get me one of these.
You should, they are awesome!!!!! :2tu:
Nice group Peacent! Love that Vice Grip tool by the way :tu: :tu: What model is that Evo?
Looks to be an S557 toolchest, possiblyNice group Peacent! Love that Vice Grip tool by the way :tu: :tu: What model is that Evo?
Vice Grip is the old, discontinued and excellent Schrade 5WR. :tu:
Spectacular tool, strong, tough, reliable, pretty compact and sexy looking
(http://i1314.photobucket.com/albums/t562/ThePeacent/CAM01406_zpskprlgfvr.jpg)
I never knew what model this Wenger was, and still don't. I just know I like it a lot
(http://i1314.photobucket.com/albums/t562/ThePeacent/CAM01402_zpsqhw1hajd.jpg)
And this combo (Vise Grips + Wenger) is becoming my favorite and most versatile carry up to this day.
(http://i1314.photobucket.com/albums/t562/ThePeacent/CAM01403_zpsxrdawpbt.jpg)
And I've tried hundreds of combos, literally, for years and years, so that's not just saying.
(http://i1314.photobucket.com/albums/t562/ThePeacent/CAM01400_zpsjsvfcyiw.jpg)
Looks to be an S557 toolchest, possiblyNice group Peacent! Love that Vice Grip tool by the way :tu: :tu: What model is that Evo?
Vice Grip is the old, discontinued and excellent Schrade 5WR. :tu:
Spectacular tool, strong, tough, reliable, pretty compact and sexy looking
(http://i1314.photobucket.com/albums/t562/ThePeacent/CAM01406_zpskprlgfvr.jpg)
I never knew what model this Wenger was, and still don't. I just know I like it a lot
(http://i1314.photobucket.com/albums/t562/ThePeacent/CAM01402_zpsqhw1hajd.jpg)
And this combo (Vise Grips + Wenger) is becoming my favorite and most versatile carry up to this day.
(http://i1314.photobucket.com/albums/t562/ThePeacent/CAM01403_zpsxrdawpbt.jpg)
And I've tried hundreds of combos, literally, for years and years, so that's not just saying.
(http://i1314.photobucket.com/albums/t562/ThePeacent/CAM01400_zpsjsvfcyiw.jpg)
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Looks to be an S557 toolchest, possiblyNice group Peacent! Love that Vice Grip tool by the way :tu: :tu: What model is that Evo?
Vice Grip is the old, discontinued and excellent Schrade 5WR. :tu:
Spectacular tool, strong, tough, reliable, pretty compact and sexy looking
(http://i1314.photobucket.com/albums/t562/ThePeacent/CAM01406_zpskprlgfvr.jpg)
I never knew what model this Wenger was, and still don't. I just know I like it a lot
(http://i1314.photobucket.com/albums/t562/ThePeacent/CAM01402_zpsqhw1hajd.jpg)
And this combo (Vise Grips + Wenger) is becoming my favorite and most versatile carry up to this day.
(http://i1314.photobucket.com/albums/t562/ThePeacent/CAM01403_zpsxrdawpbt.jpg)
And I've tried hundreds of combos, literally, for years and years, so that's not just saying.
(http://i1314.photobucket.com/albums/t562/ThePeacent/CAM01400_zpsjsvfcyiw.jpg)
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I think it's not...lacks phillips and wrench
(http://i1314.photobucket.com/albums/t562/ThePeacent/CAM01297_zpstvid3xd2.jpg)
(http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r207/Chako_photo/Chako_photo002/IMG_3041small_zps7a37c708.jpg) (http://s145.photobucket.com/user/Chako_photo/media/Chako_photo002/IMG_3041small_zps7a37c708.jpg.html)
(http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r207/Chako_photo/Chako_photo002/IMG_3014small_zps89f05556.jpg) (http://s145.photobucket.com/user/Chako_photo/media/Chako_photo002/IMG_3014small_zps89f05556.jpg.html)
(http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r207/Chako_photo/Chako_photo002/IMG_2978small_zpsbd2560eb.jpg) (http://s145.photobucket.com/user/Chako_photo/media/Chako_photo002/IMG_2978small_zpsbd2560eb.jpg.html)
(http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r207/Chako_photo/Chako_photo002/IMG_3041small_zps7a37c708.jpg) (http://s145.photobucket.com/user/Chako_photo/media/Chako_photo002/IMG_3041small_zps7a37c708.jpg.html)
(http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r207/Chako_photo/Chako_photo002/IMG_3014small_zps89f05556.jpg) (http://s145.photobucket.com/user/Chako_photo/media/Chako_photo002/IMG_3014small_zps89f05556.jpg.html)
(http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r207/Chako_photo/Chako_photo002/IMG_2978small_zpsbd2560eb.jpg) (http://s145.photobucket.com/user/Chako_photo/media/Chako_photo002/IMG_2978small_zpsbd2560eb.jpg.html)
Some very nice pieces! :tu:
8) :tool: :cheers:
Wenger Titanium II
(http://i833.photobucket.com/albums/zz256/SAKGuy/Wenger%20T2_zpsrooefjcp.jpg)
I've noticed i have the extremely rare Wenger "Beer Waiter" on my side xD (It's even more rare than the Vic one others have) :whistle:
:whistle:I've noticed i have the extremely rare Wenger "Beer Waiter" on my side xD (It's even more rare than the Vic one others have) :whistle:
:rofl: :cheers: Quite the score my friend! :D :salute:
You next goal, the Wenger Beer Walker.......(also known as the Basic 66 by snooty types who fuss about things like accuracy and facts)
(http://i833.photobucket.com/albums/zz256/SAKGuy/Wenger%20Basic%2066%20adj_zpsxlps7108.jpg)
I've noticed i have the extremely rare Wenger "Beer Waiter" on my side xD (It's even more rare than the Vic one others have) :whistle:
:rofl: :cheers: Quite the score my friend! :D :salute:
You next goal, the Wenger Beer Walker.......(also known as the Basic 66 by snooty types who fuss about things like accuracy and facts)
(http://i833.photobucket.com/albums/zz256/SAKGuy/Wenger%20Basic%2066%20adj_zpsxlps7108.jpg)
A few more photos.
(http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r207/Chako_photo/Chako_photo001/IMG_3818small_zps3c3baefd.jpg) (http://s145.photobucket.com/user/Chako_photo/media/Chako_photo001/IMG_3818small_zps3c3baefd.jpg.html)
(http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r207/Chako_photo/Chako_photo001/IMG_3547small_zps5426f753.jpg) (http://s145.photobucket.com/user/Chako_photo/media/Chako_photo001/IMG_3547small_zps5426f753.jpg.html)
(http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r207/Chako_photo/Chako_photo001/IMG_2873small_zps7eed08b4.jpg) (http://s145.photobucket.com/user/Chako_photo/media/Chako_photo001/IMG_2873small_zps7eed08b4.jpg.html)
A duplicate post, but fits here as well.
A rare Wenger EvoWood 11 Junior, with blunt blade.
First one I've seen.
Hi everyone,Any chance at a link or pictures of the knife in question?
I don't know if it's the right forum section or not, but I try:
I have found a Wenger tool chest plus, NIB.
What's the real value of this knife ? I want to make my offer to the seller, but I want to be sure about the real value before
Thanks in advance for the help
Hi everyone,Any chance at a link or pictures of the knife in question?
I don't know if it's the right forum section or not, but I try:
I have found a Wenger tool chest plus, NIB.
What's the real value of this knife ? I want to make my offer to the seller, but I want to be sure about the real value before
Thanks in advance for the help
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Hi everyone,Any chance at a link or pictures of the knife in question?
I don't know if it's the right forum section or not, but I try:
I have found a Wenger tool chest plus, NIB.
What's the real value of this knife ? I want to make my offer to the seller, but I want to be sure about the real value before
Thanks in advance for the help
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Below you can check the pictures of the knife
It seems in NIB conditions, it comes from a collection, never used
Do you have idea about the real value ? the seller is asking 150 € for it...
Thanks in advance
SteveC and I were talking about these earlier and I found the old pics and tried (unsuccessfully I think) to fix them.
(http://i833.photobucket.com/albums/zz256/SAKGuy/wenger%20Scouts%202A-1_zpspsxy0p3p.jpg)
(http://i833.photobucket.com/albums/zz256/SAKGuy/etch2_zpsfujbpn8k.jpg)
Here's an assortment of Canadian Boy Scout SAKs. They at one time went with Victorinox (the Recruit on the right), before switching over to Wenger. The first Wenger had green handles - four 85mms and an 65mm Esquire. Don't have a date for the switch to red. Five red-handled knives were offered. Four were Evos with locks; one was a flat-side Apprentice. There was also a black 120mm Mountainer (shown by Chako), and a black 85mm for the Canadian Scouts Centennial in 2007. There may be others, but that's the info I have.
Here's an assortment of Canadian Boy Scout SAKs. They at one time went with Victorinox (the Recruit on the right), before switching over to Wenger. The first Wenger had green handles - four 85mms and an 65mm Esquire. Don't have a date for the switch to red. Five red-handled knives were offered. Four were Evos with locks; one was a flat-side Apprentice. There was also a black 120mm Mountainer (shown by Chako), and a black 85mm for the Canadian Scouts Centennial in 2007. There may be others, but that's the info I have.
Wonderfull ! I never found any Wenger of Canadian boy scouts... I will become crazy !
Here's an assortment of Canadian Boy Scout SAKs. They at one time went with Victorinox (the Recruit on the right), before switching over to Wenger. The first Wenger had green handles - four 85mms and an 65mm Esquire. Don't have a date for the switch to red. Five red-handled knives were offered. Four were Evos with locks; one was a flat-side Apprentice. There was also a black 120mm Mountainer (shown by Chako), and a black 85mm for the Canadian Scouts Centennial in 2007. There may be others, but that's the info I have.
Wonderfull ! I never found any Wenger of Canadian boy scouts... I will become crazy !
Thanks ! If you have links, I will contact a friend in Montreal !
I got online and found Canadian Scout shops. Generally they would ship to the US. Don't know about Europe. Also don't know if they're still offering Wengers or have gone to Victorinox.
Here's an assortment of Canadian Boy Scout SAKs. They at one time went with Victorinox (the Recruit on the right), before switching over to Wenger. The first Wenger had green handles - four 85mms and an 65mm Esquire. Don't have a date for the switch to red. Five red-handled knives were offered. Four were Evos with locks; one was a flat-side Apprentice. There was also a black 120mm Mountainer (shown by Chako), and a black 85mm for the Canadian Scouts Centennial in 2007. There may be others, but that's the info I have.
Hello
Do you know this one?
(http://img15.hostingpics.net/pics/97091771DNJFyHbaLSL1500.jpg) (http://www.hostingpics.net/viewer.php?id=97091771DNJFyHbaLSL1500.jpg)
Hello
Do you know this one?
(http://img15.hostingpics.net/pics/97091771DNJFyHbaLSL1500.jpg) (http://www.hostingpics.net/viewer.php?id=97091771DNJFyHbaLSL1500.jpg)
Robert, she's a beauty!! :drool: :drool: :drool: :tu: :tu: :tu: How could anyone top a name like Zermatt!!
That Zermatt is Great!!! nice snag :cheers:
I got this one today, any Info/Help on info would be appreciated!! :tu:
( i couldn't find it on SAKwiki ? ) :tu:
Wenger
front tools:
1 - screwdriver/cap lifter & can opener
2 - fish scaler
3 - two sided metal file/metal saw combo
4 - wood saw
5 - scissors
6 - main blade & nail file/cleaner
back tools:
1 - awl
2 - corkscrew - with coils too small to fit my VICTORINOX mini screwdriver :td: :D
ColoSwiss & SAK Guy - THANKS GUYS :cheers: - You two always kindly answer and reply to everyone's posts. 8) IMPO very cool to see and the Info is very much Appreciated. :hatsoff: :hatsoff: :2tu:
That Zermatt is Great!!! nice snag :cheers:
I got this one today, any Info/Help on info would be appreciated!! :tu:
( i couldn't find it on SAKwiki ? ) :tu:
Wenger
front tools:
1 - screwdriver/cap lifter & can opener
2 - fish scaler
3 - two sided metal file/metal saw combo
4 - wood saw
5 - scissors
6 - main blade & nail file/cleaner
back tools:
1 - awl
2 - corkscrew - with coils too small to fit my VICTORINOX mini screwdriver :td: :D
My first SAK was a Wenger when I was very young. I loved it, but it's pretty low quality compared to a Victorinox. I'd carry one if the can opener was like the Vic.
That Zermatt is Great!!! nice snag :cheers:
I got this one today, any Info/Help on info would be appreciated!! :tu:
( i couldn't find it on SAKwiki ? ) :tu:
Wenger
front tools:
1 - screwdriver/cap lifter & can opener
2 - fish scaler
3 - two sided metal file/metal saw combo
4 - wood saw
5 - scissors
6 - main blade & nail file/cleaner
back tools:
1 - awl
2 - corkscrew - with coils too small to fit my VICTORINOX mini screwdriver :td: :D
I have an early version of that knife. It was my first SAK from over 40 years ago.
before and after a little TLC.
(http://i1309.photobucket.com/albums/s640/Peter_Thorpe/P6140949_zps873b11f7.jpg)
(http://i1309.photobucket.com/albums/s640/Peter_Thorpe/Final_A_zps6be2143f.jpg)
That Zermatt is Great!!! nice snag :cheers:
I got this one today, any Info/Help on info would be appreciated!! :tu:
( i couldn't find it on SAKwiki ? ) :tu:
Wenger
front tools:
1 - screwdriver/cap lifter & can opener
2 - fish scaler
3 - two sided metal file/metal saw combo
4 - wood saw
5 - scissors
6 - main blade & nail file/cleaner
back tools:
1 - awl
2 - corkscrew - with coils too small to fit my VICTORINOX mini screwdriver :td: :D
I have an early version of that knife. It was my first SAK from over 40 years ago.
before and after a little TLC.
(http://i1309.photobucket.com/albums/s640/Peter_Thorpe/P6140949_zps873b11f7.jpg)
(http://i1309.photobucket.com/albums/s640/Peter_Thorpe/Final_A_zps6be2143f.jpg)
My god !!!
I never saw a Wenger of 60's or 70's (your is before 1972) with aluminium scales...
I suppose the layers brass saparators are "home made" ?
That Zermatt is Great!!! nice snag :cheers:
I got this one today, any Info/Help on info would be appreciated!! :tu:
( i couldn't find it on SAKwiki ? ) :tu:
Wenger
front tools:
1 - screwdriver/cap lifter & can opener
2 - fish scaler
3 - two sided metal file/metal saw combo
4 - wood saw
5 - scissors
6 - main blade & nail file/cleaner
back tools:
1 - awl
2 - corkscrew - with coils too small to fit my VICTORINOX mini screwdriver :td: :D
I have an early version of that knife. It was my first SAK from over 40 years ago.
before and after a little TLC.
(http://i1309.photobucket.com/albums/s640/Peter_Thorpe/P6140949_zps873b11f7.jpg)
(http://i1309.photobucket.com/albums/s640/Peter_Thorpe/Final_A_zps6be2143f.jpg)
My god !!!
I never saw a Wenger of 60's or 70's (your is before 1972) with aluminium scales...
I suppose the layers brass saparators are "home made" ?
Here is a link to the thread detailing the rebuild.
http://forum.multitool.org/index.php/topic,38787
The aluminium scales were handmade 20+ years ago after I lost or broke the originals.
The brass liners were handmade during the rebuild.
Some very nice work! :tu:
My first SAK was a Wenger when I was very young. I loved it, but it's pretty low quality compared to a Victorinox. I'd carry one if the can opener was like the Vic.
Get a Vic Delemont and live the dream!!! :cheers:
These are EVO 23's, the Vic Delemont on the left has the reg Vic can opener.
What a pair of beauties!! :drool: :drool:My first SAK was a Wenger when I was very young. I loved it, but it's pretty low quality compared to a Victorinox. I'd carry one if the can opener was like the Vic.
Get a Vic Delemont and live the dream!!! :cheers:
These are EVO 23's, the Vic Delemont on the left has the reg Vic can opener.
Just arrived....Wenger Precise Backpacker - The Sierra.
(http://i833.photobucket.com/albums/zz256/SAKGuy/Wenger%20Precise%20Sierra_zpskrapleaq.jpg)
My 4th knife in the Precise era, second in the Backpacker series.
Just arrived....Wenger Precise Backpacker - The Sierra.
(http://i833.photobucket.com/albums/zz256/SAKGuy/Wenger%20Precise%20Sierra_zpskrapleaq.jpg)
My 4th knife in the Precise era, second in the Backpacker series.
Thanks for that SG, now I'm wanting to go fishing again. :ahhh
Seriously nice unit there. :cheers:
Hello
Do you know this one?
(http://img15.hostingpics.net/pics/97091771DNJFyHbaLSL1500.jpg) (http://www.hostingpics.net/viewer.php?id=97091771DNJFyHbaLSL1500.jpg)
Just arrived....Wenger Precise Backpacker - The Sierra.
(http://i833.photobucket.com/albums/zz256/SAKGuy/Wenger%20Precise%20Sierra_zpskrapleaq.jpg)
My4th6th knife in the Precise era,second4th in the Backpacker series.
Just arrived....Wenger Precise Backpacker - The Sierra.
(http://i833.photobucket.com/albums/zz256/SAKGuy/Wenger%20Precise%20Sierra_zpskrapleaq.jpg)
My4th6th knife in the Precise era,second4th in the Backpacker series.
:facepalm: FNG Newbie Questions ALERT!!! :ahhh :ahhh :ahhh :ahhh :D
SAK Guy - what & when was the "Precise" era ?
what is "Sierra"(I live at the foot of the Sierra's :tu: ) ? Is it just The name? or because they added something?
SORRY if I am asking common knowledge. :o :D :salute: :cheers:
Just arrived....Wenger Precise Backpacker - The Sierra.
(http://i833.photobucket.com/albums/zz256/SAKGuy/Wenger%20Precise%20Sierra_zpskrapleaq.jpg)
My4th6th knife in the Precise era,second4th in the Backpacker series.
:facepalm: FNG Newbie Questions ALERT!!! :ahhh :ahhh :ahhh :ahhh :D
SAK Guy - what & when was the "Precise" era ?
what is "Sierra"(I live at the foot of the Sierra's :tu: ) ? Is it just The name? or because they added something?
SORRY if I am asking common knowledge. :o :D :salute: :cheers:
Precise International was the US importer in Mid/late 70's --> 80/90's. The Sierra is a model name, my other one is "The Rockies" (the largest in the series). My other two are Pathfinders which are from the Precise era with the Backpacker imprint but no etch so may not be in the Backpacker Series proper.
Here's a Catalog page from the Wiki
Just arrived....Wenger Precise Backpacker - The Sierra.
(http://i833.photobucket.com/albums/zz256/SAKGuy/Wenger%20Precise%20Sierra_zpskrapleaq.jpg)
My4th6th knife in the Precise era,second4th in the Backpacker series.
:facepalm: FNG Newbie Questions ALERT!!! :ahhh :ahhh :ahhh :ahhh :D
SAK Guy - what & when was the "Precise" era ?
what is "Sierra"(I live at the foot of the Sierra's :tu: ) ? Is it just The name? or because they added something?
SORRY if I am asking common knowledge. :o :D :salute: :cheers:
Precise International was the US importer in Mid/late 70's --> 80/90's. The Sierra is a model name, my other one is "The Rockies" (the largest in the series). My other two are Pathfinders which are from the Precise era with the Backpacker imprint but no etch so may not be in the Backpacker Series proper.
Here's a Catalog page from the Wiki
VERY COOL , Thanks SAK Guy :hatsoff: :2tu:
Great pics too , Thanks for posting them! :cheers:
More love pics, celebrating Wenger Wednesday!
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And the last Wengers I bought... But not yet arrived !
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Wenger Racers.
Wenger Racers.NICE , What a cool set 8)
:cheers: :cheers:Word after word, picture after picture, the wiki is still getting better and higher with the help of all !
I've had a look at the catalog page on SAKwiki, i can't access the pdf ones (both Vic and Wenger)You have to be logged in to download/access them. Log in and try again. If you still have problems, let me know.
btw i have the pdf file for the Nature Series page if it can be uploaded to SAKwiki (i don't think i can upload a pdf there can i?)
You have to be logged in to download/access them. Log in and try again. If you still have problems, let me know.Thanks!
I'll upload the pdf you attached here later. They go in a special folder that's accessible to admins only so no maleware isn't uploaded. Only the picture galleries are open to the general public.That's understandable :angel:
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:ahhh :ahhh Just got a BNIB Esquire!!
Promotions never looked that good!:ahhh :ahhh Just got a BNIB Esquire!!
Got a fourth one - also BNIB - some time ago. Another corporate handout, that one to employees to celebrate 75th Anniversary the company's founding. It was a bonus surprise included with a larger knife purchase.
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I take it you like the Esquire!
John
This one also just in a day or so ago. Don't know why I was thinking it was a Victorinox. It's a 2007 Wenger Standard Issue with no bail and solid rivet. While it's not BNIB as with the 2004, it's about 95-99%, near mint condition. Needs a little polishing on the screwdriver tip of the cap lifter. It appears that's the only thing this knife was used for.
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Typical lightly stamped date on the tang . . .
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John
This one also just in a day or so ago. Don't know why I was thinking it was a Victorinox. It's a 2007 Wenger Standard Issue with no bail and solid rivet. While it's not BNIB as with the 2004, it's about 95-99%, near mint condition. Needs a little polishing on the screwdriver tip of the cap lifter. It appears that's the only thing this knife was used for.
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Typical lightly stamped date on the tang . . .
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John
Hello,
It's not a standard issue !
It's a soldier knife, one of the last soldier knife made by Wenger !
At the end of 2007, Wenger has stopped production for the Swiss army due to buying of Wenger factory by Victorinox. So you will never find Wenger soldiers knives stamped "08" but you can find (more and more rarely) Wenger soldiers knives stamped "07".
See :
http://www.couteaux-du-so...s-modeles-1961/variante-7 (http://www.couteaux-du-soldat-suisse.ch/J01/index.php/en/les-couteaux-du-soldat/les-modeles-1961/variante-7)
This knife is now very collectible !
This one also just in a day or so ago. Don't know why I was thinking it was a Victorinox. It's a 2007 Wenger Standard Issue with no bail and solid rivet. While it's not BNIB as with the 2004, it's about 95-99%, near mint condition. Needs a little polishing on the screwdriver tip of the cap lifter. It appears that's the only thing this knife was used for.
(http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l290/j_a_lind/Other/Knives/SAK/New%20Arrivals/Wenger%20Standard%20Issue%20Mfr%20Yr%2007.jpg)
Typical lightly stamped date on the tang . . .
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John
Hello,
It's not a standard issue !
It's a soldier knife, one of the last soldier knife made by Wenger !
At the end of 2007, Wenger has stopped production for the Swiss army due to buying of Wenger factory by Victorinox. So you will never find Wenger soldiers knives stamped "08" but you can find (more and more rarely) Wenger soldiers knives stamped "07".
See :
http://www.couteaux-du-so...s-modeles-1961/variante-7 (http://www.couteaux-du-soldat-suisse.ch/J01/index.php/en/les-couteaux-du-soldat/les-modeles-1961/variante-7)
This knife is now very collectible !
If I understand this correctly, the "Standard Issue" Wenger are the 1961 model Wenger sold retail to the public (some may have the year stamped on the tang) and the "Soldier" are the 1961 model Wenger sold to the Swiss Army.
Thanks
John
It's a little more complicated !
In fact soldiers knives and civilian knives, of same model and same year of manufacture, have always something to distinguish them :
A civilian knife will always have something more or less if you compare it with a real soldier knife of the same year like a bail added, a blade not stamped with the year of manufacture, the Waffenkontrolle not stamped on the scales, etc...
And it's not easy to transform a civilian knife to a soldier knife : for exemple in 2007 you can find standard issue stamped "07" with eyelet and bail but... In 2007 on soldiers knives you will never find eyelet nor bail ! So do not imagine if you remove the bail a standard issue will become a soldier knife !
And there are a multitude of combinations!
Lot of people have lot of wrong or bad informations about soldiers knives, Wenger standard issue, former Victorinox pioneer, etc... But soldiers knives collectors can recognize immediately a civilian and a soldier knife...
I'm sorry for my bad English I hope you understand what I mean !
An other sample :
(http://www.couteaux-du-soldat-suisse.ch/J01/images/photos_site/autres_couteaux/couteaux_civils/1908_civilian_knives.jpg)
these knives can't be soldiers knives because soldiers knives models 1908 have carbon steel blade and tools ! Never stainless steel blade nor tools !
Sample of the Trekker :
(http://www.couteaux-du-soldat-suisse.ch/J01/images/photos_site/autres_couteaux/couteaux_civils/one_hand_trekker.png)
(http://www.couteaux-du-soldat-suisse.ch/J01/images/photos_site/modeles/2008/Mod_2008.jpg) (http://www.couteaux-du-soldat-suisse.ch/J01/images/photos_site/modeles/2008/Type_A_2008.jpg)
The Trekker is the civilian version of the model 2008 : No year stamped on the blade, no military handles...
Thanks for all the information. I have a model 2008 with Swiss Shield military scales that have no T&T, and "16" on the tang. Other than the year on the tang it looks identical to the 2008 model you show.
This goes a bit OT, but I've also got this 2005 Vic that I've presumed to be a "Soldier" as it has the Swiss Shield scales with a waffle pattern a little different from the Pioneer, no keyring, and "05" stamped on the tang. Didn't notice the waffle pattern difference until I put it next to a Pioneer; it's subtle. The blade, however, is etched with the signature of "Charles Elsener" which makes believe it was a special build in 2005 of a limited number of the 1961 model v7 for sale to collectors. I don't believe the Swiss military would issue knives with an etched signature on the blade to new enlisted soldiers.
Thanks!
John
Wenger Cumberland (Pheasant Backpacker)
Rare 1 Wenger layer with big locking blade, small blade and corkscrew
Not perfect but... :tu:
This thing is slim!: :D
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http://www.sakwiki.com/tiki-index.php?page=Wenger+Pheasant
Great pics John and Ronald!Thanks Barry :cheers:
Here's a rather old (probably 1940s-1950s from the shape of the shield), rather rare Wenger with imitation tortoise shell handles. While small tortoise shell knives show up fairly regularly, full size ones are extremely uncommon.Nice!
The Wenger Metal-50 Traveler is extremely lovable!SURE IS ........ Nice knife , Ron! 8)
Cleaned up Tradesman ready for Wenger Wednesday!
Cleaned up Tradesman ready for Wenger Wednesday!
Such beautiful stuff every time I come over to this thread!! :cheers:
Evogrip 18 today :dd:
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The lock definately makes it trickier to open the scissors, compared to the non-lock version.Yes, that's my experience too. (Wenger S17)
It doesn't make it impossible though and with a bit of getting used to it, it does not matter at all anymore.
I tried the Giant for size...
I tried the Giant for size...
Perfect EDC...
More lost lambs who have seen The Light!
I just found out my son ordered a Traveler for me...now I have one of my own!! :ahhh :ahhh :ahhh :ahhh I love how the 85's carry, and I've grown to really love Wenger. I've said it alot over time, but I wish I had known more of them when they were still producing knives.:like: I feel the same way. I think they are really underrated.
A local shop has some few wenger, and for the first time I saw and touched the wenger swissgrip. Very massif multitool, but not so interesting for me. Also there was a couple of Journeyman, so I bought one , I can't leave it there!
That's awesome! Wengers are getting harder and harder to find.
Still a big fan of the Traveller and the Pocket Tool Chest (or variations of these two). Most of the others are gone or going. The only other one that gets carried occasionally is the mod I named "Brian", which is essentially a Traveller with inline Phillips and carabiner.
I carry my Traveler probably more than any of my other Wengers. For some reason the blade on it seems twice as sharp as any of my other SAKs.
I like the sound of that mod sir!!
OK, the blade is snapped off but I still love them!
:facepalm:
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I've owned a SAK since I was a child but never a Wenger :o Today that has changed as a Wenger EVO S13 showed up in the mail. I've recently developed a fondness for 84mm Vics. The size just seems right. My latest is a Walker, which I have been carrying for a couple of weeks. I like it a lot as it disappears in the pocket but it does leave me wishing it had a couple more tools. What I really want is a Sportsman with a saw or a Camper Small but I'm too busy at the moment to be doing any modding. So that led me to consider an 85mm Wenger (1mm can't make that much difference I thought). I have to say, having played a bit with this Wenger, there is a lot to like about it. I prefer the blade shape over Vic's and the locking feature is nice. The locking flat head is pretty cool. The can opener looks like it will perform well and the sharpened end looks like it could be useful for other cutting, scraping and carving tasks. While at first glance I assumed that the awl wouldn't drill a hole in wood, I tried it and it does but requires a bit more force and time. I'm considering sharpening it a bit though for better performance. The size and weight, 2.25 ounces, is great in a pocket. The contoured scales do add a bit of grip. The tip of the nail file doesn't work well as a 2D phillips and I'm considering grinding it down to make it fit better. But all in all I can see this becoming a regular carry item as I'm quite happy with it :tu:
I have done side by side comparisons of the Victorinox and Wenger awls on the cellidor models. there is hardly any difference at awl for hole making
I have done side by side comparisons of the Victorinox and Wenger awls on the cellidor models. there is hardly any difference at awl for hole making
Just ordered an Evolution S14. I guess it's not truly a Wenger, but as close as one could get these days buying new.
Got these today :
Looking for their name now, sak wiki doesn't help much for the red one....
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Perhaps it's evo s13? I have this one with non locking blade in real tree apsnow scales.
Anyway, last week I was at a store where they sold some SAKs.
A few of those were the S14, S11 etc but not the Vic Delemont, but actual NOS Wengers at regular retail price.
Would you guys think they're worth the money more then a Vic branded one?
They also had a NOS leather Wenger sheath at regular retail. Should I go and grab it ASAP?
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Yes it is :-)
Yes it is :-)
:like: :like: :like:
It's awesome scales and knife.
This Deluxe Backpacker just arrived. Took a chance and bid on a bad pic. This thing looks pretty much new. Also came with another 5 layer, unsure of the name at the moment but maybe the Young Fisherman? :think:That's a nice specimen buddy!
This Deluxe Backpacker will have to be another exception in the Corkscrew empire. :D
:hatsoff: :cheers: My first Wenger Magnifier. It's pretty neat.This Deluxe Backpacker just arrived. Took a chance and bid on a bad pic. This thing looks pretty much new. Also came with another 5 layer, unsure of the name at the moment but maybe the Young Fisherman? :think:That's a nice specimen buddy!
This Deluxe Backpacker will have to be another exception in the Corkscrew empire. :D
With attached cocktail fork! :2tu::hatsoff: :cheers: My first Wenger Magnifier. It's pretty neat.This Deluxe Backpacker just arrived. Took a chance and bid on a bad pic. This thing looks pretty much new. Also came with another 5 layer, unsure of the name at the moment but maybe the Young Fisherman? :think:That's a nice specimen buddy!
This Deluxe Backpacker will have to be another exception in the Corkscrew empire. :D
This Deluxe Backpacker just arrived. Took a chance and bid on a bad pic. This thing looks pretty much new. Also came with another 5 layer, unsure of the name at the moment but maybe the Young Fisherman? :think:
This Deluxe Backpacker will have to be another exception in the Corkscrew empire. :D
Some uncommon wenger knives...
Those are no folders but gravity switchblade knives...
Some uncommon wenger knives...
Those are no folders but gravity switchblade knives...
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Nah :lol:Soldat - SI - Swiss Army 70(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180210/05c8c067bacd739d049a306a85002fad.jpg)
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Will you be upset if I just cawl them awl SI's? :D
Hello wengercollektor
nice collection!
have never seen so many old Wenger knives at once! congratulations
I'm interested in the blade marks, can you please adjust pictures of it?
And a few more.
The patent of this switchblade knife was the nr 307767 from november 11th 1884.
Could it be that the patent expired until 1907 when wenger startet using the 3 headed logo? You don`t find these knives with the wenger blades in the US, but in western europe.
And a few more.
Coloswiss. What is the knife with the long driver and the hawksbill blade? Looks like a 1908 variant?
Very cool looking knife!
Look what I found in the corner of a fishing shop this morning...Nice pic Thunderpants! :like: :tu: :tu:
New, with a few fingerprints on the blade and a crumpled box.
Tons of Wenger love here, though I own way more Vics. This SI gets daily pocket time.You can probably tell from the dirt. (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180216/e83b0836026e05efbdb9f299e2908611.jpg)
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I wish I'd picked up one of those old alox Wengers back when they were cheap as chips! Now they cost a fortune and as they are functionally no different to Pioneers I can't bring myself to buy one.
Actually there's a whole bunch of Wengers I wish I'd bought before they became extinct. Though there never was a time when the Porsche designed Wengers were a bargain!
Did anyone EDC one of these? They look pretty much indestructible.
Some uncommon wenger knives...
Hello wengercollektor
nice collection!
have never seen so many old Wenger knives at once! congratulations
I'm interested in the blade marks, can you please adjust pictures of it?
Some uncommon wenger knives...
Fantastic congratulations ... that must have taken many years to gather together.
Love the hobo knife ..... that is my new target knife ...... any chance of some extra pics
Cheers and thanks for posting
Some uncommon wenger knives...
Fantastic congratulations ... that must have taken many years to gather together.
Love the hobo knife ..... that is my new target knife ...... any chance of some extra pics
Cheers and thanks for posting
Here some extra pics.
By the way: I love your 84 mm 4 pin climber.... :-) If you want to get rid of it some day, just let me know.
Niiice!
I'm still kicking myself for selling my orange Wenger Ranger! It's a beauty!
Ahhhh! - there's something a bit crappy about the Signal though isn't there!
Lots of love for Wenger in my house :D
https://youtu.be/7KZ2sWuES6I
Pics in this thread (https://forum.multitool.org/index.php/topic,76327.msg1655996.html#msg1655996).
:o
That's a thing of beauty CeHo!
:o
That's a thing of beauty CeHo!
Thank you :tu:
:o
That's a thing of beauty CeHo!
Thank you :tu:
:like:
looks like the tools from my Wenger Champion...what's this model called? :salute:
:o
Nice!!! I've never seen one of those!
:o
Nice!!! I've never seen one of those!
I have, in a shop only 10 minutes drive away from my home ... and I let it pass ... :bnghd:
:twak: to myself .
:o
Nice!!! I've never seen one of those!
I have, in a shop only 10 minutes drive away from my home ... and I let it pass ... :bnghd:
:twak: to myself .
Oh no!
With needle-nose or blunt-nose plier configurations?
:o
Nice!!! I've never seen one of those!
I have, in a shop only 10 minutes drive away from my home ... and I let it pass ... :bnghd:
:twak: to myself .
Oh no!
With needle-nose or blunt-nose plier configurations?
That one was the needle-nose version.
Lucky?:o
Nice!!! I've never seen one of those!
I have, in a shop only 10 minutes drive away from my home ... and I let it pass ... :bnghd:
:twak: to myself .
Oh no!
With needle-nose or blunt-nose plier configurations?
That one was the needle-nose version.
You are a lucky guy - i‘m looking for this one. Plastic or metalhandle?
You can buy it tomorrow... :tu:
Oh no - I got it wrong
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Just picked up my third Wenger custom SAK.. First has carbon fiber scales, second copper scales, and last titanium scales. All are great for EDC.
Thank you!
Is your tool numbered?
Thank you!
Is your tool numbered?
#3**/500
I'm quite partial to this Snife
Thank you!
Is your tool numbered?
#3**/500
There is no number on mine... :o
Thank you!
Is your tool numbered?
#3**/500
There is no number on mine... :o
Did you check on the main blade?
my wenger
That magnifying glass! Looks so cool, does so little!
lol. Seems like most agree that Wenger isn't up to Vic's quality in general. Victorinox absorbed Wenger after Wenger got into financial trouble several years ago, made some changes but a lot of the tools (ie blade, scissors, caplifter) are still the same. You can easily find used Wengers on eBay.
It's funny, when I was a kid I was always bummed when a store's Swiss Army Knife section only had Wengers. I remember asking my dad about it, I don't really remember what he said but I do remember saying that Wengers are Swiss Army Knives too.... he always bought Victorinox for me though, but did get my brother a Wenger Trout.
These days I just love carrying a Wenger SI and a few 85mm, but not too often. :cheers:
The best Wengers ever made were produced after Vic bought them. Vic quality and Wenger innovation in full flower.
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Here's a bit of vintage Wenger love... an old 1960s (I think) Allsport 93mm. Apart from a slightly tweaked screwdriver and a ding on the small clip point blade (which should come out with a bit of work), it's in amazing shape. I did a Hobie sandpaper polish job on the two blades and got out the worst of the scratches. It's got a wicked looking saw! What a cool old knife.:drool: :like:
Here's a bit of vintage Wenger love... an old 1960s (I think) Allsport 93mm. Apart from a slightly tweaked screwdriver and a ding on the small clip point blade (which should come out with a bit of work), it's in amazing shape. I did a Hobie sandpaper polish job on the two blades and got out the worst of the scratches. It's got a wicked looking saw! What a cool old knife.Really nice! And with a saw too! Am I right to assume that the can opener is also in similar great condition?
Wenger Commander
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John
:rofl:Wenger Commander
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John
are the scales in that SAK glued with loctite? :D
Evolution Swiss Clipper AT (Air Traveler) with screwdriver in place of knife blade . . .
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John
Evolution Swiss Clipper AT (Air Traveler) with screwdriver in place of knife blade . . .
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John
Yes. Wenger designed a number of smaller "AT" with the small screwdriver and this was one of them. I still wouldn't put any of them in carry-on luggage though.
Evolution Swiss Clipper AT (Air Traveler) with screwdriver in place of knife blade . . .
(https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/867/26626995127_a4ea2b018f_b.jpg)
John
Is this Evo Swiss Clipper AT specially designed for air travelling after 9/11?
Many nice Wengers guys! :like: :like:I like the ruby scales!
This Evo 14.600 transparent is getting daily pocket time....
jalind, you have a really nice collection :like:Thanks!
Two new arrivals, small one i had already :tu::tu: :tu: :tu:
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Many nice Wengers guys! :like: :like:I like the ruby scales!
This Evo 14.600 transparent is getting daily pocket time....
:tu:
John
I'll see your Swissbuck and raise you one.(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180424/9ce1fbc0d33fa9535ae8cfce711cd823.jpg)heh heh heh - I have two more inbound. ;)
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beautiful, CeHo! :like: :tu:
Handwerker(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180512/82fc79e3414b88f704fc6e1636f12019.jpg)
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Handwerker(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180512/82fc79e3414b88f704fc6e1636f12019.jpg):o :drool: :like:
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Handwerker(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180512/82fc79e3414b88f704fc6e1636f12019.jpg)Beautiful knife! I've let a couple of Professionals get away on fleaBay... but one of these days I'll snag one. Such cool knives.
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Cool stuff :tu:Thanks, CeHo! :salute:
Cool stuff :tu:Thanks, CeHo! :salute:
I have a few Wenger knives. But the Titanium Series is "another story".
Why is the titanium series another story?It's completely different from other Wenger knives.
A have the complete Series - unique design and very cool tools...I have the complete Series too. ;) And I like it. Though I am not sure about their usability (in mountains I prefer my old Victorinox Picknicker), but they are really cool and I gave several of Wenger Titanium Series knives to my friends who love mountains too.
Why is the titanium series another story?It's completely different from other Wenger knives.A have the complete Series - unique design and very cool tools...I have the complete Series too. ;) And I like it. Though I am not sure about their usability (in mountains I prefer my old Victorinox Picknicker), but they are really cool and I gave several of Wenger Titanium Series knives to my friends who love mountains too.
(Sorry about possible misunderstanding. It's all because of my poor English.)
No, it’s my problem - not yours ;):cheers:
Cool - I think we need more pics from your collection here ;)Thank you! But I have only a few Wenger knives.
Rare wenger business tool (grey) for for travelling (no knife and no scissors):like:
+1 I want one on my desk!!!Rare wenger business tool (grey) for for travelling (no knife and no scissors):like:
Just scored this awesome Wenger Wallet.
:cheers: this one actually has a mesh id coverJust scored this awesome Wenger Wallet.
Nice. I've been using a Wenger wallet now for a while and like it. The clear id plastic cover like many is failing but the wallet is going strong.
Takes a lot to impress me these days....
But that's certainly impressive CeHo
Great catch :tu:
Takes a lot to impress me these days....
But that's certainly impressive CeHo
Great catch :tu:
Spanish pamphlet/instructions manual :D
I'll see your Swissbuck and raise you one.(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180424/9ce1fbc0d33fa9535ae8cfce711cd823.jpg)
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I picked up a Swissbuck Taskmate I on eBay for $20 last week, and I'm loving it. It's been getting pocket time lately because it fits in the coin pocket of my jeans. I like the clip point blades and the pliers are nice. My scales are pretty rough, otherwise it's in great shape. I have some nice wooden scales I am going to put on this little taskmate... but before I commit to the epoxy, I'm seriously considering snagging a cheapie eBay knife and transplanting scissors in to make it a Taskmate II.
Charles.
Some Wenger Watchmakers:
Nice - I have also 2 LinkshänderThey are a little bit expensive now. I wonder why Victorinox do not release any knives for left-handed people?
My first Wenger(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180529/b95f8e137644b4d85685f281840deef7.jpg)And it's a beauty! :tu: :like:
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Nice knives everyone :tu: Antti, congrats i hope many more follow :salute:
My only left handed, Matterhorn plus
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Dual blade :salute::like:
Wait... So there are 6 Alinghi knives? I found 5 last time I searched... Never saw this one!Dual blade :salute::like:
And one more Wenger -- Ranger 38-36:
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Dual blade :salute::like:
And one more Wenger -- Ranger 38-36:
Dual blade :salute:
Another leftie::like:
Wait... So there are 6 Alinghi knives?It should be...
Just found some info that maybe they just used spare Alinghi blades to make these...Yes, it's seems to be true.
Wow - I never see this one :like: any more informations about this one?
Another leftie::like:Wait... So there are 6 Alinghi knives?It should be...Just found some info that maybe they just used spare Alinghi blades to make these...Yes, it's seems to be true.Wow - I never see this one :like: any more informations about this one?
All I know about this knife: it's a Wenger Ranger 38-36 (1.92.38.36). It was produced in March 2011, bought in Wenger Outlet in Landquart, Switzerland.
Thanks for your info :tu: it’s a great peaceMy pleasure. :salute:
Thanks for your info :tu: it’s a great peaceMy pleasure. :salute:
If you wish, I can make some more photos of this model.
It’s a fantastic knife :tu:Thank you, CeHo! :cheers:
It’s a fantastic knife :tu:Thank you, CeHo! :cheers:
I like it too. ;)
This knife seems pretty special....Yes, Sir Huntsman. As you can see from the printed text (03 2011) on the box in the picture above.
Fisrtly - It has the 120mm scales.. yet you are saying it came out in 2011
Secondly - As you have pointed out it has the Alinghi bladeYes. There is a short review (https://swissknives.info/wenger-ranger-model-38/) by Sir victor7000 (https://forum.multitool.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2007), there this fact is mentioned too.
Thirdly - It is the model 36-38 - Right ??? That's a strange model no.Model 38-36. And in accordance with Sir victor7000 (https://forum.multitool.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2007), there is another model 38-38 with an additional Phillips screwdriver.
Any idea if it is a one or two off - Or were there a few made ?When I have bought these knives, I have seen a lot of them (dozens) on the Outlet’s shelf.
can I borrow the pics and make a page for it please ? :tu:Yes, please. And thank you very much! :cheers:
Any idea if it is a one or two off - Or were there a few made ?
Any love for old Soldier?
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Gorgeous pieces!Cool! Really digging that Tour de France one!
I used to dismiss Wengers as sub-par SAKs as a kid... In the past few years I've seen them be much more beautiful and innovative than Vics. The love keeps growing and growing... As their numbers are.
Just got two more lovers today :D
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Cool! Really digging that Tour de France one!
Is the allen wrench holder plastic or metal?
Cool! Really digging that Tour de France one!
Is the allen wrench holder plastic or metal?
My professional Wengers are not so nice as Syem has but I like them (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180611/8834cebf87b3c20ce33079085eedf387.jpg)Old blades on those bad boys!
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Cool. Is the chain tool to be used in combination with the removable wrench?Cool! Really digging that Tour de France one!
Is the allen wrench holder plastic or metal?
Metal. That is a bike chain tool. I have a plain one (not TDF) that I carry on my bike.
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Don't need the removable wrench to use the chain tool, but it is handy. It's a spoke wrench too.Cool. Is the chain tool to be used in combination with the removable wrench?Cool! Really digging that Tour de France one!
Is the allen wrench holder plastic or metal?
Metal. That is a bike chain tool. I have a plain one (not TDF) that I carry on my bike.
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I am thinking of byuing one that is in ok condition, but missing the wrench as they lost it.
Danke Nick :tu:Bitte CeHo! :cheers:
Du sprichst/schreibst ja deutsch :cheers:Nein, ich verstehe nur Bahnhof. :facepalm:
Thanks CeHo! :cheers:
The titaniumline is very niceYes. :cheers:
The titaniumline is very niceYes. :cheers:
And Ueli Steck was a great climber.
EVO Hunter 505 and Serrated Outdoorsman...... :cheers::like:
Wenger Titanium Ueli Steck Edition and a box of my unsorted Wenger knives (still have no time to make photos of them :( ).Looks great! :drool:
Looks great! :drool:Thanks, jnoxyd! :salute:
EVO Hunter 505 and Serrated Outdoorsman...... :cheers::like:
El P just gifted me this awlsome Adventurer. I now have a three piece collection of Wengers! :ahhh
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A pair of Wenger Soft Touch.
gotta love those clip point blades. :like::salute: :cheers:
Since my Wenger today has a snapped blade :P I'm compensating with a CRKT Ripple 2, that has an awesome clip point blade :cheers:
A pair of Wenger Soft Touch.
Cool - I love the ST-WengersThanks, CeHo! :cheers:
Lot of Wenger love today :cheers:Nice Three faces stamped old Wenger!
Thanks, CeHo! :cheers:I carry my ST14 quite a lot and it does resist to pocket wear, of course I didn't try to stratch it or roll it with keys
I like them too. But I am afraid the soft touch handles are not very wear-resistant.
I carry my ST14 quite a lot and it does resist to pocket wear, of course I didn't try to stratch it or roll it with keysThanks you for the information, m47mu74nt! It's a good news for me.
i'm quite impressed there were non evo st scaled wengers available at some point?All good things are available in Switzerland, of course. ;)
+ i'm quite impressed there were non evo st scaled wengers available at some point?Oh, it's my fault. Shame on me. :(
I love my Handy. It's like a party in your pocket. :D
Mrs Nix just couldn't understand why I went back to get another Esquire.....
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"Uhhhhh..because this one is red."
found another Aluminum scale Wenger...stay tuned for more photographs and a video by HOBIE on youtube once the restoration is done!
A friend just showed me this thread and i'm fascinated about many rare old Wenger knives that was showed here. What i didn't see is the frist Solider's Knife Wenger delivered to the Swiss Army, the Type 1901. Let me show this one:
A friend just showed me this thread and i'm fascinated about many rare old Wenger knives that was showed here. What i didn't see is the frist Solider's Knife Wenger delivered to the Swiss Army, the Type 1901. Let me show this one:
120mm Ranger Grip 70, for your viewing pleasure.
Charles.
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Just found this blue PTC on CHEAP! :tu:
Nice wenger advertisement knife...Amazing sak!
Nice wenger advertisement knife...:o :like:
Ok.That's realy nice looking vintage knife. Nice old wenger. :cheers:
Wenger Spotlight/Wenger Spotlight with scissors
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Nice wenger advertisement knife...Absolutely unique knife! Thank you for sharing :tu:
I guess I should add a photo tooWait, what? :ahhh :o :like: :like: :like:
I guess I should add a photo tooWait, what? :ahhh :o :like: :like: :like:
I guess I should add a photo too
and a close up of the black beauty
and a close up of the black beautyI was going to ask for more photo’s of that black beauty, but I see you went and did it! Well done. That is a very nice collection you have there! :like: :hatsoff: :cheers:
rare "master sportsman" with one sided file tool called the "snow or mud scraper"A snow or mud scraper...thats very interesting. A very cool knife! :like: :tu:
rare "master sportsman" with one sided file tool called the "snow or mud scraper"
to answer your question...I have swiss army knives including wenger that go back to pre 1908 when they were "coutellerie suisse". if you want some additional info about how to identify the age of any particular knife, feel free to email me d.arnold.gmg@gmail.com
the black wenger is from approx 1910 to about 1920. Hobie talks about it in his video but we know this because of a few things like 1) carbon steel blades and tools 2) no cap lifter 3) the tang stamp and 4) birdseye rivets
What a great SAK! :like::iagree: thank you!
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Very nice collection you have there. :like: :tu:
Thanks my friend :cheers::salute:
My Wenger Evo is always at the top o' the pile.Nice selection you have there! :tu: :like:
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My Wenger Evo is always at the top o' the pile.
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Thanks! :hatsoff::cheers:
I really enjoy using this one.
Charles.
Any love for old soldiers?(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190805/15fde9c5f46f7cdea6ccabf02bdace16.jpg)Yes please :like:
latest family photoThat’s an impressive family sakwakky. :like:
Max thank you for posting the wrench pics :tu:.Thanks Aloha :hatsoff:
Just arrived, 25 Wenger stands :hatsoff:
this week I thought I would share a couple examples of the Master Sportsman, with the unusual "snow or mud scraper" tool for use on your skiis!
arrived today, 3 layer first shield Wenger with aluminum scales. it needs some work but everything is there and everything snaps
this week I thought I would share a couple examples of the Master Sportsman, with the unusual "snow or mud scraper" tool for use on your skiis!
Technically a Wenger, right?Nice one. I have one SwissBuck and really like it.
Wenger Evo has an honored place in the collection. :DVery nice Evo :like: :rofl: :tu:
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I'm still very much a Vic user however these Wengers get a lot of carry time. I am really bummed I didn't get on board sooner.Nice collection you have there! :tu:
three Horn scaled Wenger...circa 1910, 1950, and 2000
Some of my WENGER oldies :hatsoff:
Some of my WENGER oldies :hatsoff:Is the shorter Soldier a “56?
Is the shorter Soldier a “56?
thanks guys. here is a closer look at the three faces horn scaled wenger...a short video done by the guy who refurbished it for me...check out that SNAP!That is just beautiful :drool :cheers:
Nice SI...that weather doesn't look pleasant.
Wenger SI out for a ride ... not the best weather though!:like: :tu:
That is just beautiful :drool :cheers:
Raining like hell here... and snowing ... like everywhere else in the region :twak:
gonna go find some snow tomorrow :angel:
Some of my WENGER oldies :hatsoff:
Finally found snow on one side, and sun on the otherGreat knife and photo’s! :tu: :cheers:
Great knife and photo’s! :tu: :cheers:
mother of pearl Tahara with mechanical clock
and I have removed the clock to have it serviced
It's amazing! First time I saw this, thank you for the picture,Sakwakky :salute::iagree: :like: :drool: Very interesting model. Thank you for sharing, Sakwakky!
These last pages show exactly why I love Wenger so much, the brand itself has been gone for several years but still I see stuff popping up that I didn't even know it existed.
I miss their "let's just make it" mentality, at times it seems as if the designers there were just a bunch of SAK freaks like us, throwing ideas around the room about what could or should be in their next SAK, and then just go for it.
I guess the "playing it safe" strategy from Victorinox did work out in the end...
I can't agree more :hatsoff: :tu::iagree:
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I often think of Victorinox and Wenger are like two sister, where the big sister is more conservative and 'playing it safe', the younger sister is more adventurous and probably lived a more colorful life. :D
These Wenger tools were collected by a friend of mine :climber:Your friend has a nice collection there :tu:
:iagree:
I often think of Victorinox and Wenger are like two sister, where the big sister is more conservative and 'playing it safe', the younger sister is more adventurous and probably lived a more colorful life. :D
SwissBuck Fishtale.Nice :like: :cheers:
thank you, and one more recent acquisition, a WENGER & CIE from 1914 with engraved scales to commemorate the alliance between England, France, Russia and Belgium. Featuring (from left to right on the front scale): King George V of England, Prime Minister Raymon Poincare of France, Emperor Nicholas II of Russia (who was executed in his own country 1918 after his exile in England was revoked by George V in 1917)Oh boy, that is a nice piece of history! :like: :cheers:
On the back scale is King Albert of Belgium
Oh boy, that is a nice piece of history! :like: :cheers:
mother of pearl Tahara with mechanical clock
Nice :like: :tu:
Got a bit more pedestrian knife and timepiece on the way, still hyped though.
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looking good gentlemenOh boy, thats a great collection you have there! :cheers: :hatsoff:
Ive been sorting out a few from the Wenger drawer thought you might enjoy a look-see
looking good gentlemen
Ive been sorting out a few from the Wenger drawer thought you might enjoy a look-see
Got these today, I think I'll take out my Matterhorn to have a Wenger Wednesday tomorrow.Great duo to be carrying :like: :cheers:
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before there was Wenger there was Coutellerie Suisse...and with the addition of Stefan Schobers CS 1901 to my collection, I can now show the CS 1890, 1901 and 1908 togetherGreat set! Super condition !
three knives, all 93mm, all four layersJust WOW! Great knives, especially black one .
sorting out some knives to be used in the book that I am writing (about vintage Wenger knives)
here are
1) a first shield cadet with a first shield 1908 soldier
2) three early Wenger "cadet" knives...one with an early three faces tang stamp, one with the first shield, and one with a Rothlisberger blade etch
3) 8cm officer knives
4) 9cm officer knives
sorting out some knives to be used in the book that I am writing (about vintage Wenger knives)
here are
1) a first shield cadet with a first shield 1908 soldier
2) three early Wenger "cadet" knives...one with an early three faces tang stamp, one with the first shield, and one with a Rothlisberger blade etch
3) 8cm officer knives
4) 9cm officer knives
putting the finishing touches on a new book "A Collectors Guide to Vintage Wenger Knives". I have been working on it all year, and its almost finished. It will be ready soon. here is a sneak preview of one of the photos I am considering for the cover
Dave Arnold
putting the finishing touches on a new book "A Collectors Guide to Vintage Wenger Knives". I have been working on it all year, and its almost finished. It will be ready soon. here is a sneak preview of one of the photos I am considering for the coverGreat cover but I just wonder if that 4th one down should be straightened just a hair. :think: :dunno:
Dave Arnold
Can anyone identify this Wenger? I can't find it in the Wiki.
Tools that are not shown are main blade, small nail file and bottle opener/screw driver.
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Hi, should be model 1.21.03I guess 3 years later it's still a 1.21.02 then? :facepalm: I forgot I had already asked. :cheers: :hatsoff: :tu: :rofl:
https://forum.multitool.org/index.php/topic=21658.msg1443163#msg1443163
I guess 3 years later it's still a 1.21.02 then? :facepalm: I forgot I had already asked. :cheers: :hatsoff: :tu: :rofl:Hehe I forgot too I had already answered :D
putting the finishing touches on a new book "A Collectors Guide to Vintage Wenger Knives". I have been working on it all year, and its almost finished. It will be ready soon. here is a sneak preview of one of the photos I am considering for the cover
Dave Arnold
Sounds great Dave, will look forward to its release :like: :hatsoff:
Three old Wenger.
Three old Wenger.:like: very nice indeed, Would love to see some more pics of that Tahara
there are chapters on;Great news, Dave! We are waiting for it
1) the tools that came before the 1890 soldier knife
2) soldier knives
3) cadet knives
4) evolution of officer knives from 1905 to 1937
5) evolution of officer knives from 1938 to 1964
6) evolution of officer knives summary, a one page photo showing evolution from 1905 to 1964
7) 82mm officer knives additional photos
8- 93mm officer knives additional photos
9) gentlemans knives
10) farmer / peasant knives
11) fixed blade knives
12) other rare/special wenger knives
13) THIS IS NOT A WENGER (a look at some of the knives most commonly misrepresented as vintage Wenger)
14) *Other Swiss knifemakers (Victorinox, Rothlisberger, Buhler, Solothurn, GS, SR, Eichenberger etc)
15) best of Solingen
16) final thoughts
Echotech, why is that your favorite? I have the Swiss Buck version of that knife, but haven't used it yet (It's still in brand new condition). Every time I handle it I wish the screwdriver was longer and that it had scissors instead of the dinky little pliers. But I'm willing to be convinced... :)Hi Charles
Charles.
I have been looking for a Wenger Double Blade forever and finally gave up and made a two blade mod based off the nomad. It’s kind of a “compact nomad plus.”:like:
Guys I have one question, do you know why the 130mm Wenger/Victorinox Delemont blade is not sharpened last centimetre from the body?
Nothing but love for Wenger. A few I picked up on a recent trip.:dd: great finds Aloha :like:
Nothing but love for Wenger. A few I picked up on a recent trip.
Here are a few 120's and 130's.
Here are a few 120's and 130's.
First: Hello! to all, as I´m new to this forum.
M first SAK was a Wenger back in 1981/82, a Alpine Backpacker (plain). After many years of Victorinoxes (?) I got me another one last week.
My wife carries a Wenger Esquire on her keychain and she loves it, especially the scissors.
Always had a soft spot for those orange camo scales - very funky! :like: :like:
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I got a nice little surprise today. I bought this lot of Esquires for scale tools and key rings and much to my surprise one of them is an Air Traveler in nice condition. w0oT!
Very cool, @Echotech!
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I love Wenger. As a lefty I give them beau coup kudos for fully left handed knives.
Wenger showed there was a way to do it slightly differently and with distinct advantage.
The cap lifter is a short knife that is very useful as a pull ull up and back cutter for twine and fishing line. I use it quite a bit that way. It could easily be modified to an effective seat belt cutter if Wenger were still in biz. And I have even mastered screwing withe rounded tip, though it is sub optimal.
The two position pliers are very good, also.
And wrench was way ahead of its time.
But my problem with Wenger remains their willingness to stick with ineffective solutions, or useless ornament.
They carried on indefinitely with sub par scissors that just don’t cut much but paper and that are susceptible to loss of springy function from gunk and corrosion.
I am supposed to prefer Wenger scissors because the spring won’t break. But the scissors never cut that well. My Vic’s spring breaks once in a great while, 99 percent of the time they cut the way I want. I prefer the Vic trade off. I will find a way to limp through a broken spring once in a great while for top cutting all the time.
The short chain was also useless—too short for a lanyard, and unnecessary if you add a lanyard.
The blade lock works good new but wears out. It was too flimsy to have stuck with IMHO.
Wenger’s sense of smaller size, higher tool density, and better scale ergos are deeply missed by me.
But on some level they lacked the seriousness of purpose about getting function right to keep me from preferring Victorinox’s durable, effective tools.
I love and trust my s557, EXCEPT for the blade lock and the scissors. I sense they will fail me sooner or later at normal function they claim to provide. I don’t sense the same risk from my victorinox knives.
I want my knife to come through in a pinch.
That’s why I carry a SAK.
:iagree:. There's something about Wengers.... I love them. I'm a lefty, too, but have learned to adapt in a right hand world :D
Nice Ben :like:
Hope to see you and them in the Delemont challenge in October :tu:
Finally got my hands on a reasonably priced Wenger EKA #3 off eBay. Should have took some before pics because it was in pretty rough shape, but I went straight into fix up mode right away. Had a bent corkscrew and blade. Tarnished all over with virtually zero snap. Now it’s straight and true with decent snap. I never wanted to pay too much for one of these because I always thought I’d hate the bubinga wood scales. Now that I have it I find not only are they really comfortable, but also look great.
I love Wengers too now.Oops, I just bought another NIB Wenger off eBay. EVO S101.
Also really easy to take apart.
Oops, I just bought another NIB Wenger off eBay. EVO S101.
I see loads of stuff about Vic but not so much on the Wenger line. Any reasons for this?
I can only speak for myself but I simply feel Vic's are better quality. I like the scissors on a vic much better, and Victorinox tools have this distinct "CLICK" sound that I LOVE when you open or shut the blade. The several Wengers I have owned and used never seemed to have that nice CLICK. To me that translated to lesser quality.Ya they certainly can feel more budget, but I also like some of their tools more. I prefer Wenger can opener as I don’t find Vic can opener any good as screw driver and I rarely use these for cans. But the Wenger can opener is great for scraping and package opener.
Now that being said, In High school, and when I worked in a factory I did carry a Wenger every day because I didnt want to scratch up my Vics. I have to admit that my Wenger, I think it is a Highlander, did its job perfectly fine and I have a soft spot in my heart for it. I will attach a picture. I think thats why I never gave it away. I have nothing against Wenger. I just feel Victorinox is slightly better quality. Wenger is still a fine tool.
Here is mine
I think Wenger brought more innovation than Victorinox. Locking blade in a medium SAK, auto locking screw driver, and ergonomic scales, serrated scissors fed off the backsprings, and lighter in the pocket. I think the fact Wenger/Delemont series blades are a little thinner than Victorinox isn't because of lower quality, but by design to keep the whole package lighter. In a slip joint design where everything is held together by 3 pins/rivets, you can't do too much prying anyway, so I'm not sure having overly beefy blades is a benefit. My S17 is noticeably lighter than my Huntsman. Those ergonomic scales have grown on me and I do find them really comfortable. Perfectly contoured for your hand really. In contrast Victorinox is more traditional in it's approach. I think both have their merits.
It's a good thing Victorinox, when they acquired Wenger appreciated the innovation and took the best from Wenger and incorporated it into their product set and created the Evolution/Delemont series.. This from Victorinox website: "Embrace change, explore new horizons, progress everyday... This is what the Evolution collection is about."
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:rofl: :cheers: Quite the score my friend! :D :salute:I just discovered the Wenger Basic 66 and Classic 66. Would love to acquire one in decent shape. Unfortunately the only one I could find on eBay was destroyed. Blade had been sharpened on what appears to be a brick. Not even worth the $18 they wanted.
You next goal, the Wenger Beer Walker.......(also known as the Basic 66 by snooty types who fuss about things like accuracy and facts)
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I just discovered the Wenger Basic 66 and Classic 66. Would love to acquire one in decent shape. Unfortunately the only one I could find on eBay was destroyed. Blade had been sharpened on what appears to be a brick. Not even worth the $18 they wanted.
Posted another Wenger video:
https://youtu.be/ycA14NrlhHA
SwissBuck Sidekick compared with Wenger Traveler.
For medium-size SAKs, I prefer the Wenger design. After a few years of being irritated that I couldn't get the exact tool loadout I wanted, I just built my own.Very nice. List of tools?
Technically this is a Victorinox, but it's based on the Wenger EvoGrip line:
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I appreciate that it has a locking blade, unlike almost all Victorinox designs.
I "love" my Wenger/Victorinox "Evo Grip" 14, which if I understand correctly was/is originally a Wenger design. It has the (IMHO "better") Wenger scissors, and is the old Wenger standard 85mm closed as opposed to Victorinox's 91/"93"mm, at any rate.
I also "love" my Mini Champ. However, I'm not sure if it started as a Wenger design before Wenger was bought by Victorinox.
Serious question:
Is/Was the Mini Champ originally a Wenger offering before they were bought by Victorinox? I've never seen another Victorinox (or Wenger, that I know of) with the cuticle pusher blade, or the mini Wharncliffe blade.
A curious mind wants to know. 😷👍
mini champ (58mm) has always been from Victorinox, Wenger had the "pocket tool chest" in their 65mm line : https://www.sakwiki.com/tiki-index.php?page=Pocket+Tool+ChestThank you. 😷👍
Thank you.Your are welcome :)
I’m a Wenger Collector. My family came from Switzerland and there are Wenger’s in my family tree. Gerber’s too, for what it’s worth.
Very cool VistaMN welcome to MTo, look forward to seeing some of your Wengers :climber: :cheers:
Nice :like:
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Thank You. My Wenger Tool Chest Plus - 5th generation
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I’m a Wenger Collector. My family came from Switzerland and there are Wenger’s in my family tree. Gerber’s too, for what it’s worth.
Great SAKs Aloha and Gene :like:
The Wenger was my first SAK. I think it was about 25 years ago. And thanks to SAKWiki I found the model that I starded with . It was the Commander snife with Zebra scales. I had in my mind that it was some tiger stripes, but it wasn't.I think this is one of my favourite coloured scales that I own.(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20230305/83fc83e397375b7eb8aa49210dc17b45.jpg)
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I think this is one of my favourite coloured scales that I own.(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20230305/83fc83e397375b7eb8aa49210dc17b45.jpg):iagree: :like:
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I think this is one of my favourite coloured scales that I own.(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20230305/83fc83e397375b7eb8aa49210dc17b45.jpg)
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Welcome back to SAK world central - Dave’s book is a great source of info, and you’ll find we’re all good enablers ro7nd here! :rofl: When uploading/attaching a photo, make sure it’s less than 500kb or else it won’t attach. :cheers:Thanks Rizio. Going to try again. I'm wondering if being on Safari might be a problem. Lately FB messenger doesn't like Safari either... So here goes..
Nice selection of oldies. :tu:Thank you. I have a couple of alox soldiers as well, but other than that, this is pretty much the extent of the Wenger... so far!
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I really like Wenger. Here are my 3 most used and carried Cyclist, Security 14, and Pocket Tool Chest.
This post has been a long time in the making. Here's my little Wenger family.
Any plans to further expand the Wenger collection?Definitely. I like the Wengers with scale art, such as on my Backpacker II. However, I'd want to find nice unused examples with their boxes and paperwork. I'd awlso like to get at least one or two of the 120mm and/or 130mm models, as well as more Patriots. An Apprentice or a Highlander will most likely be my next one.
An Apprentice or a Highlander will most likely be my next one.I was 100% correct!
I really miss Wenger. They had such a cool variety., and I started really appreciating Swiss Army knives too late.
I'm a big fan too, always that little bit more quirky and inventive....didn't always work but always interesting
Might have to run an other Wenger challenge next year :think:
That'd be cool. I better get mine spiffed up before then.:like: :tu:
...That would be fun, I'm in if it happens.
Might have to run an other Wenger challenge next year :think:
That would be fun, I'm in if it happens.:like: ok sounds like there’ll be a few of us, watch this space
Here's one you don't see every day.
I really miss Wenger. They had such a cool variety.,......
You and me both. Theres a reason I've kept a small pile around. I like Victorinox too, but Wenger has always been more interesting to me.
I'm a big fan too, always that little bit more quirky and inventive....didn't always work but always interesting
I'm a big fan too, always that little bit more quirky and inventive....didn't always work but always interestingI only have a couple Wenger, but I would be down
Might have to run an other Wenger challenge next year :think:
I hope Victorinox would do experiments on Delemont line for sake of Wenger innovative experiments of tool combos.Agree. Unlike Vic, Wenger had some unique tools and combos which it would be nice to see resurface.
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I hope Victorinox would do experiments on Delemont line for sake of Wenger innovative experiments of tool combos.Unfortunately this is not gonna happen IMHO
Is that a Wenger Traveller? If so - Yes nice model
I really liked the Wenger awl as it was not sharp
Most blades on all SAKs are sharp - and sometimes you don't want sharp - eg untangling a knot or shoelaces etc
The Wenger awl was great for that
This is also IMHO the same reason why the much hated fish scaler is quite good
PS It is a sad day for Wenger fans - As it looks like Vic has killed off the 85mm line with their lovely scale materials and colours