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Title: Because... insanity
Post by: Lynn LeFey on November 26, 2014, 07:45:59 AM
I just sold off two Climbers I had. Both had scissors with issues. And I have absurd demands of my scissors. Tip of the main blade can be broken off, and I'm fine. Slight hitch in the scissors, and they're gone.

So, with the proceeds, I was looking for something on ebay and found...

A Climber.

 :facepalm:

 :climber:

 :facepalm:

Oooh. And look, Felinevet's got factory sapphire scales. So... pretty...
Title: Re: Because... insanity
Post by: kirk13 on November 26, 2014, 09:44:08 AM
And you expect us to be surprised because...?

 :D
Title: Re: Because... insanity
Post by: ducttapetech on November 26, 2014, 11:17:37 AM
What was wrong with the scissors?
Title: Re: Because... insanity
Post by: cbl51 on November 26, 2014, 01:30:57 PM
What was wrong with the scissors?

Yeah, what was wrong with a Vic scissors, the most perfect scissors on earth? Inquiring minds want to know.
 :)
Title: Re: Because... insanity
Post by: Lynn LeFey on November 26, 2014, 03:14:19 PM
Of the two tools, one was used. I don't know what the original owner did, but the scissors were 'gritty'.

The second Climber I purchased new last year, and within days of purchase, I tried cutting a tie holding a toy in a package. I'd just clipped three others, no prob. This one was being stubborn, and when i exerted more force, it nicked the scissor blades. Turned out, unlike the others, this one had a thin wire in it, like a bread twist tie. I tested this again later with a Micra, and the Micra cut it no problem, with no damage. The scissors still work but have a little catch in them, and imperfect scissors make me crazy.
Title: Re: Because... insanity
Post by: Megan on November 26, 2014, 03:32:43 PM
I use my climber almost every day at work on something or other.
So far my scissors are in tact! I'm going to keep an eye on them after reading this though!  :salute:
Title: Re: Because... insanity
Post by: firiki on November 26, 2014, 03:42:36 PM
Sold two Climbers, bought a Climber, everything seems normal to me.

Just that, you could have torture tested them scissors :D
Title: Re: Because... insanity
Post by: Aloha on November 26, 2014, 04:00:43 PM
I'm not seeing a problem  :think:

Nope, just thought about it and all is normal at MTo.
Title: Re: Because... insanity
Post by: Monrogue on November 26, 2014, 04:26:19 PM
I'm not seeing a problem  :think:

Nope, just thought about it and all is normal at MTo.

Ditto :tu:
Title: Re: Because... insanity
Post by: comis on November 26, 2014, 05:33:28 PM
Of the two tools, one was used. I don't know what the original owner did, but the scissors were 'gritty'.

The second Climber I purchased new last year, and within days of purchase, I tried cutting a tie holding a toy in a package. I'd just clipped three others, no prob. This one was being stubborn, and when i exerted more force, it nicked the scissor blades. Turned out, unlike the others, this one had a thin wire in it, like a bread twist tie. I tested this again later with a Micra, and the Micra cut it no problem, with no damage. The scissors still work but have a little catch in them, and imperfect scissors make me crazy.

I kinda curious whether the gritty scissors are due to blur it may have created due to heavy use?  Also, curious whether a little sharpening could also bring the other one back too.  :think:
Title: Re: Because... insanity
Post by: styx on November 26, 2014, 05:36:58 PM
that's not insane. that's just the MTO syndrome
Title: Re: Because... insanity
Post by: AimlessWanderer on November 26, 2014, 05:37:13 PM
Of the two tools, one was used. I don't know what the original owner did, but the scissors were 'gritty'.

The second Climber I purchased new last year, and within days of purchase, I tried cutting a tie holding a toy in a package. I'd just clipped three others, no prob. This one was being stubborn, and when i exerted more force, it nicked the scissor blades. Turned out, unlike the others, this one had a thin wire in it, like a bread twist tie. I tested this again later with a Micra, and the Micra cut it no problem, with no damage. The scissors still work but have a little catch in them, and imperfect scissors make me crazy.

I kinda curious whether the gritty scissors are due to blur it may have created due to heavy use?  Also, curious whether a little sharpening could also bring the other one back too.  :think:

Yup, I'd have tried to work the ding out too  :tu:
Title: Re: Because... insanity
Post by: Lynn LeFey on November 26, 2014, 05:44:09 PM
I did try. It didn't improve them to my satisfaction.

I need to be clear here, though, if I'm really insane about one thing, it's that my scissors have to be perfect. I don't expect others to have that problem. I'm just SUPER picky about them.

And Megan, yeah, don't try heavy cutting tasks with your 91mm scissors. Learn from my mistake, and your scissors will have a long and fruitful life.
Title: Re: Because... insanity
Post by: lowtech on November 26, 2014, 05:47:19 PM
Selling a tool and later on (hours or month, des not matter...) - possibly at a higher price, has happened to me, too. I´ve been through 2 Skeletools, Fliks, recoils, <diesel, a few MP 600 variants, ...
Title: Re: Because... insanity
Post by: Aloha on November 26, 2014, 05:47:58 PM
I did try. It didn't improve them to my satisfaction.

I need to be clear here, though, if I'm really insane about one thing, it's that my scissors have to be perfect. I don't expect others to have that problem. I'm just SUPER picky about them.

And Megan, yeah, don't try heavy cutting tasks with your 91mm scissors. Learn from my mistake, and your scissors will have a long and fruitful life.

My poor scissors on my Swisschamp  :(

Title: Re: Because... insanity
Post by: Ashley on November 26, 2014, 07:06:31 PM
No problems here!


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Title: Re: Because... insanity
Post by: NAB on November 26, 2014, 07:14:09 PM
The only way a gritty or dinged scissor could possibly be worse is if there is also sticky tape residue involved. No end of OCD crazy when tape residue is involved.
Title: Re: Because... insanity
Post by: firiki on November 26, 2014, 07:44:10 PM
The only way a gritty or dinged scissor could possibly be worse is if there is also sticky tape residue involved. No end of OCD crazy when tape residue is involved.
Oh, yes (or it is no? :think: ). I hate it so much that no SAK scissors of mine are touching stuff like that unless it came to medical needs :poh:  :ahhh

Title: Because... insanity
Post by: Tired_Yeti on November 26, 2014, 08:11:04 PM
I have a Vic Craftsman that is my daily companion but the scissors are not too good anymore. The spring often protrudes from the side when I use it. The same thing has happened with the pliers from time to time. However the scissors on my other Vic SAKs are perfect. So I'm inclined to think it's possibly a factory defect with my individual knife.

It's possibly the same with your Climbers.
Title: Re: Because... insanity
Post by: Tired_Yeti on November 26, 2014, 08:17:07 PM

The only way a gritty or dinged scissor could possibly be worse is if there is also sticky tape residue involved. No end of OCD crazy when tape residue is involved.
nail polish remover (acetone) takes the tape reside off like magic! I've used it for years.
Title: Re: Because... insanity
Post by: Lynn LeFey on November 26, 2014, 08:17:30 PM
Hey Tired_Yeti. Welcome to the boards!
Title: Re: Because... insanity
Post by: SAK Guy on November 26, 2014, 08:45:52 PM
I have a Vic Craftsman that is my daily companion but the scissors are not too good anymore. The spring often protrudes from the side when I use it. The same thing has happened with the pliers from time to time. However the scissors on my other Vic SAKs are perfect. So I'm inclined to think it's possibly a factory defect with my individual knife.

It's possibly the same with your Climbers.

Those springs are shot. They are fatigued and need replacing.  Then the scissors/pliers should work as good as new.

This Marly Trouble Shooter was doing the same thing...works perfect now!
(http://i833.photobucket.com/albums/zz256/SAKGuy/springrepair1_zpsc4d05e6a.jpg)

Have fixed several that were that same way.
Title: Re: Because... insanity
Post by: Tired_Yeti on November 26, 2014, 08:51:07 PM
I've seen those repair kits online for approx. $50 IIRC
Title: Re: Because... insanity
Post by: ToolJoe on November 26, 2014, 08:52:06 PM


  I find Vic scissors are okay for everything except heavy duty. The scissors on my Super Tinker don't do too well with zip ties.
Title: Re: Because... insanity
Post by: shark_za on November 26, 2014, 09:58:30 PM
If you sold two climbers why not get their brothers, super tinker and compact?
Some variety is good.

I use those quite a bit along with a climber in nylon.
Title: Re: Because... insanity
Post by: SAK Guy on November 26, 2014, 10:15:25 PM
I've seen those repair kits online for approx. $50 IIRC

If you buy lots of used SAKs, they're worth every penny...IMO.
Title: Re: Because... insanity
Post by: Tired_Yeti on November 26, 2014, 10:38:11 PM

Hey Tired_Yeti. Welcome to the boards!
Thanks!
Title: Re: Because... insanity
Post by: Megan on November 27, 2014, 06:09:55 PM

Hey Tired_Yeti. Welcome to the boards!
Thanks!

Yes! Welcome!!
Title: Re: Because... insanity
Post by: Caranthanus on November 27, 2014, 11:55:18 PM
Replacing tools with some issues for one with no issues, is the proof of great mental-health so far :D


 :climber:
Title: Re: Because... insanity
Post by: Lynn LeFey on November 29, 2014, 07:02:51 PM
So, I got the knife from the ebay bid.

I paid $10.50 for it. At that price, I often have some trepidation as to what it's actual condition is going to be. This one was, aside from standard scuffing on the scales... flawless. Freakishly good condition.

Now I just wait for the set of factory Sapphire scales from FelineVet to show up. It's going to be SO pretty!
Title: Re: Because... insanity
Post by: eddie1115 on November 29, 2014, 07:08:19 PM


So, I got the knife from the ebay bid.

I paid $10.50 for it. At that price, I often have some trepidation as to what it's actual condition is going to be. This one was, aside from standard scuffing on the scales... flawless. Freakishly good condition.

Now I just wait for the set of factory Sapphire scales from FelineVet to show up. It's going to be SO pretty!

I did the same thing except with a Super Tinker.  About the same price from ebay, and sapphire scales from Felinevet :cheers:
Title: Re: Because... insanity
Post by: Lynn LeFey on November 29, 2014, 07:17:27 PM
I did the same thing except with a Super Tinker.  About the same price from ebay, and sapphire scales from Felinevet :cheers:

Whoa! That's hilarious.

Well, great minds think alike.

Then again, total idiots think alike, too, so...  :think:

 :rofl:
Title: Re: Because... insanity
Post by: eddie1115 on November 29, 2014, 07:25:06 PM


I did the same thing except with a Super Tinker.  About the same price from ebay, and sapphire scales from Felinevet :cheers:

Whoa! That's hilarious.

Well, great minds think alike.

Then again, total idiots think alike, too, so...  :think:

 :rofl:

Yeah sorry to say, I may be pulling you into that second category ;)
Title: Re: Because... insanity
Post by: Cupboard on November 29, 2014, 07:57:11 PM
Fools never differ :)
Title: Re: Because... insanity
Post by: Monrogue on November 29, 2014, 08:35:18 PM
Sounds like you got a good deal after all :tu:
Title: Re: Because... insanity
Post by: Lynn LeFey on December 02, 2014, 09:15:56 PM
And the ebay find with new sapphire scales...

(http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m208/lynnlefey/IMGP1957_zpsbe392fb5.jpg)

There's no chance that I'll confuse it with any other SAK I own now. Looks REALLY nice in the new duds.
Title: Re: Because... insanity
Post by: SAK Guy on December 03, 2014, 12:18:37 AM
And the ebay find with new sapphire scales...

(http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m208/lynnlefey/IMGP1957_zpsbe392fb5.jpg)

There's no chance that I'll confuse it with any other SAK I own now. Looks REALLY nice in the new duds.

:2tu:  Liking those scales!
Title: Re: Because... insanity
Post by: Monrogue on December 03, 2014, 12:48:13 AM
Looking good Lynn :tu:
Title: Re: Because... insanity
Post by: zoidberg on December 03, 2014, 08:31:57 AM
Good one Lynn.  :tu: 
Title: Re: Because... insanity
Post by: Lynn LeFey on December 03, 2014, 02:38:12 PM
Of course, I scuffed the scales getting them on, so it's not flawless...

But then again, it's not flawless, so now I'm not worried about using it, and potentially scuffing the scales so... win... i guess.  :think:

 :rofl:
Title: Re: Because... insanity
Post by: Monrogue on December 03, 2014, 03:03:53 PM
That's one of the cons of the cellidor scales though.  They scuff so easily.  My nice black scales that I swapped onto my Rogueneer lost that new look within days. 
Title: Re: Because... insanity
Post by: Lynn LeFey on December 03, 2014, 03:06:27 PM
It seems to me that the translucent scales are a bit more forgiving in that their appearance is already broken up by being able to see through the material. Scuffs seem less noticeable, at least to me. And i think Silvertech are the absolute best at this, though i'm not sure why.
Title: Re: Because... insanity
Post by: Monrogue on December 03, 2014, 03:08:19 PM
That's a good point, as the ruby scales I originally had weren't quite as noticeable with the scuffing.  I think part of it is all in the angle and the lighting at the time you look. 
Title: Re: Because... insanity
Post by: PTRSAK on December 03, 2014, 03:20:31 PM
There is only one way to avoid scuffing/scratching on a celldor scaled SAK...
Never open the box.

Actually they CAN get mild scuffing in the box just from jiggling around, so you get a situation I like to call "Schrödinger's SAK".

We cannot know whether or not the box has been jiggled excessively, and consequently, cannot know whether the scales are scuffed.
Since we cannot know, according to quantum law, the SAK is both pristine and scuffed, in what is called a superposition of states.
It is only when we break open the box and learn the condition of the SAK that the superposition is lost, and the SAK becomes one or the other (pristine or scuffed).

 :whistle:
Title: Re: Because... insanity
Post by: SAK Guy on December 03, 2014, 03:25:15 PM
There is only one way to avoid scuffing/scratching on a celldor scaled SAK...
Never open the box.

Actually they CAN get mild scuffing in the box just from jiggling around, so you get a situation I like to call "Schrödinger's SAK".

We cannot know whether or not the box has been jiggled excessively, and consequently, cannot know whether the scales are scuffed.
Since we cannot know, according to quantum law, the SAK is both pristine and scuffed, in what is called a superposition of states.
It is only when we break open the box and learn the condition of the SAK that the superposition is lost, and the SAK becomes one or the other (pristine or scuffed).

 :whistle:

I need more coffee......