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Title: Hunter Pro in Alox
Post by: israelpiper on July 24, 2018, 07:03:21 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/LIMGlZW.png)

Silver Alox only. Other difference from original Hunter Pro: Pocket clip option. Lanyard ring.

Of course it loses the wonderfully firm-gripped, ergonometric handle of the original. Not sure if Alox is good for a big outdoor knife. Cold, wet weather? Slippery with dressing the kill? I can't see this appealing to any hardcore outdoors folks. If you think Victorinox, it is definitely unique and great looking knife. But outside of the Victorinox world, there are so many good outdoors knives that will not be 100 Euros.

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Just saw another thread on this. I check over there now...
Title: Re: Hunter Pro in Alox
Post by: Barry Rowland on July 24, 2018, 10:19:00 PM
You know, I was just thinking about an alox 111!
Title: Re: Hunter Pro in Alox
Post by: stoneshank on July 26, 2018, 04:41:52 PM
Wish.  Imagine red coloured alox!?

- stoneshank

Title: Re: Hunter Pro in Alox
Post by: GoatDragon on July 26, 2018, 07:34:27 PM
As a lover of all things Victorinox first, and a lover of pocket knives second, I have to say that thing looks ugly as sin. It is too far removed from anything they have produced before to be recognizable by my brain as a Victorinox design, and it doesn't stand on its own merits as a pocket knife, especially not at that price point. There are so so many good options for a dedicated folder in the sub $100 range that Victorinox is going to have to try harder than that to make a splash.
Title: Re: Hunter Pro in Alox
Post by: cody6268 on July 26, 2018, 08:33:37 PM
I wonder what a stag Hunter Pro would look like? Even more curious is the big price tag it would probably have. I feel G-10 or Micarta would be good looking choices that work hard.  Metal scales can't be broken, and they don't harbor bacteria, or have any place for it to hide, but that's about it. It's cold in cold weather, and if left out in the sun, it will get really hot.
Title: Re: Hunter Pro in Alox
Post by: smiller43147 on September 18, 2018, 10:27:11 PM
B&H Photo lists the Hunter Pro in Alox on their website for $99.99.  Available October 11.
Title: Re: Hunter Pro in Alox
Post by: Don Pablo on September 18, 2018, 10:29:04 PM
Don't you find that annoying? Why not say $100 and be done with it?  :rofl:
Title: Re: Hunter Pro in Alox
Post by: Mechanickal on September 18, 2018, 10:31:22 PM
Mental marketing...
Title: Re: Hunter Pro in Alox
Post by: smiller43147 on September 18, 2018, 10:42:30 PM
Don't you find that annoying? Why not say $100 and be done with it?  :rofl:
Not the way we do it in the US.
Aside from the appearance that it's selling for under $100, there is a story that many years ago a store owner by the name of J.C. Penney made prices like that to force his employees to have to ring the sale up at the register so they could make change.
Title: Re: Hunter Pro in Alox
Post by: Don Pablo on September 18, 2018, 10:57:35 PM
Don't you find that annoying? Why not say $100 and be done with it?  :rofl:
Not the way we do it in the US.
Aside from the appearance that it's selling for under $100, there is a story that many years ago a store owner by the name of J.C. Penney made prices like that to force his employees to have to ring the sale up at the register so they could make change.
I understand the reasoning behind making the price like that to make it look cheaper, but that doesn't make me like it more.  :cheers:
The thing about forcing the employees to use the cash register is new to me though!
Title: Re: Hunter Pro in Alox
Post by: Rapidray on September 18, 2018, 11:55:29 PM
Nice and interesting - might be able to squeeze one in for Christmas for my son.
Title: Re: Hunter Pro in Alox
Post by: toolguy on September 19, 2018, 03:42:23 AM
Unless they provide this knife with a higher grade of steel,than they use in their other knives,it will be of limited use.

Their steel is so soft I can't use a sharpening steel to touch up their blades.

It does look cool,though.

Title: Re: Hunter Pro in Alox
Post by: GoatDragon on September 19, 2018, 04:48:17 PM
Unless they provide this knife with a higher grade of steel,than they use in their other knives,it will be of limited use.

Their steel is so soft I can't use a sharpening steel to touch up their blades.

It does look cool,though.

I use honing steel on my SAK blades all the time to great effect.  ???
Title: Hunter Pro in Alox
Post by: G-Dizzle on September 19, 2018, 04:57:49 PM
Change the stupid sideways logo to the traditional red one found on the pioneer and the look is golden. Functionality? I dont know.
Title: Re: Hunter Pro in Alox
Post by: Don Pablo on September 19, 2018, 06:10:47 PM
Unless they provide this knife with a higher grade of steel,than they use in their other knives,it will be of limited use.

Their steel is so soft I can't use a sharpening steel to touch up their blades.

It does look cool,though.
SAK steel needs to be stropped when the edge needs a touch-up, not a sharpening?  :dunno:
Title: Re: Hunter Pro in Alox
Post by: toolguy on September 19, 2018, 07:08:34 PM
I use honing steel on my SAK blades all the time to great effect.  ???

I'm happy for you. ???

At this price point a better steel should be a piece of cake.Many other manufactures are able to offer a premium steel at this price point,so why not Victorinox?

I can order a Buck from their Custom Shop and specify S30V for $96.50.
Title: Re: Hunter Pro in Alox
Post by: alexTOOL on September 19, 2018, 07:14:31 PM
As a lover of all things Victorinox first, and a lover of pocket knives second, I have to say that thing looks ugly as sin. It is too far removed from anything they have produced before to be recognizable by my brain as a Victorinox design, and it doesn't stand on its own merits as a pocket knife, especially not at that price point. There are so so many good options for a dedicated folder in the sub $100 range that Victorinox is going to have to try harder than that to make a splash.

You have no idea  :facepalm:
 
IT´S BEAUTIFUL  :like:
Title: Re: Hunter Pro in Alox
Post by: toolguy on September 19, 2018, 07:15:57 PM
Unless they provide this knife with a higher grade of steel,than they use in their other knives,it will be of limited use.

Their steel is so soft I can't use a sharpening steel to touch up their blades.

It does look cool,though.
SAK steel needs to be stropped when the edge needs a touch-up, not a sharpening?  :dunno:

The term sharpening steel is commonly used,a more accurate description is a "honing steel".The steel actually hones the edge.Stropping is nice but I've never seen anyone carry a strop into the field. :dunno:

I carry a honing steel on every trip afield.It occupies a special pocket in my backback.


PS: When a blade becomes dull from use,stropping is worthless without first using a honing steel.
Title: Re: Hunter Pro in Alox
Post by: Mechanickal on September 19, 2018, 08:13:46 PM
I get my SAKs sharp as a razor on my honing steel too.

The SAK steel is sufficient for most people.
It's softer, yes, but they NEVER rust and are very easy to touch up on a wide array of materials.

Which isn't that unlogical, given their military history.
Title: Re: Hunter Pro in Alox
Post by: Marc_in_NS on September 19, 2018, 08:37:09 PM
I think (know) that, “afield”, the softer Victorinox Steel at 56 HRC is ideal for all tasks. They can be sharpened, honed, dressed or otherwise maintained with just about any implement.
I also own a Buck 113, dressing knife with S30V steel. It performs really well whilst dressing a moose “afield”, it lasts a long time; but, and there is always a but, trying to hone S30V without DMT stone is a total waist of time. S30V is nice but designed to be maintained in a shop, as recommended on the Buck website!

Additionally, the Alox Hunter Pro knife is “butt” ugly.  :D

Toolguy, I just disagree  :angel:
Title: Re: Hunter Pro in Alox
Post by: SAKPal on September 19, 2018, 08:49:25 PM
I'd have been more interested if they'd scaled the hunter pro down to a 3" blade model
Title: Re: Hunter Pro in Alox
Post by: Ron Who on September 19, 2018, 08:52:24 PM
Initially, the Hunter Pro Alox was scheduled for September last year. Then we heard about manufacturing problems and an indefinite delay. I hope they meet the October 11 deadline but I´ll only believe it when I see it.

I love my Hunter Pro Walnut and will get the alox as well. More than just alox scales, Vx added a lanyard hole too.

It´ll be my 10th silver alox.
Title: Re: Hunter Pro in Alox
Post by: Ron Who on October 03, 2018, 07:18:28 PM
More pics
Title: Re: Hunter Pro in Alox
Post by: EMZ on October 04, 2018, 06:34:28 AM
The price in The Netherlands is € 99.
For sale at www.messenshop.nl
Title: Re: Hunter Pro in Alox
Post by: Rapidray on October 04, 2018, 02:57:05 PM
I will hold out for the green alox when it comes out. The knife will be on my bike pack!
Title: Re: Hunter Pro in Alox
Post by: Chips on October 04, 2018, 03:54:54 PM
Which to choose  :think:
Title: Re: Hunter Pro in Alox
Post by: VictorinoxEDC on October 04, 2018, 10:40:13 PM
Looks like something the Predator would pull out of it's belt as it was chasing Schwarzenegger through the woods.

I like it. May very end up buying one and then trying to hide it from my wife!!!
Title: Re: Hunter Pro in Alox
Post by: gustophersmob on October 04, 2018, 10:49:25 PM
Which to choose  :think:

Wait, is this real?
Title: Re: Hunter Pro in Alox
Post by: gustophersmob on October 04, 2018, 10:50:13 PM
I'm surprisingly tempted by this. Is this a LE or regular production item?
Title: Re: Hunter Pro in Alox
Post by: Rapidray on October 04, 2018, 11:47:29 PM
It’s real.  :tu:
Title: Re: Hunter Pro in Alox
Post by: G-Dizzle on October 04, 2018, 11:59:57 PM
Still think the crooked logo looks ridiculous. If it were not for that I would buy one. Make it smaller and straighten it out.
Title: Re: Hunter Pro in Alox
Post by: Rapidray on October 05, 2018, 12:06:45 AM
I kinda like it. I think it makes it look quicker... :whistle:
It wouldn’t stop me from buying one for sure.
Title: Re: Hunter Pro in Alox
Post by: ironraven on October 05, 2018, 05:08:39 AM
I might like a OHT in Alox. Red Alox, brass liners other than the lock- and fix it so it is right for righties.

But this looks like a spyderco product. Not that there is anything wrong with them. If you like that kind of thing.
Title: Re: Hunter Pro in Alox
Post by: BerkshireHunter on October 05, 2018, 05:23:07 AM
It looks ok but it’s just a single blade lockback in a budget steel, $100 seems steep. Not a big fan of the saber grind or the bead blast finish on the blade. They should totally make it on Damascus though.  :D
Title: Re: Hunter Pro in Alox
Post by: Don Pablo on October 05, 2018, 02:08:49 PM
Just keep in mind the price it must have cost Vic to design and produce something like this. ;)
Especially for something that doesn’t seem to be as popular, sales-wise, as a OHT.
Title: Re: Hunter Pro in Alox
Post by: Régis-Joël Charnay on October 05, 2018, 02:41:01 PM
I find it beautiful in style " alox " I have the Hunter wood pro which is beautiful whose blade is steel stainless 1.4419 hardness Rockwell 56 HRC. We can think that the new will be made in the same steel
Title: Re: Hunter Pro in Alox
Post by: Rapidray on October 05, 2018, 02:53:09 PM
 :iagree: with the last 3 posts!
Title: Re: Hunter Pro in Alox
Post by: BerkshireHunter on October 20, 2018, 11:58:01 PM
Anybody get one yet?
Title: Re: Hunter Pro in Alox
Post by: Joe58 on October 21, 2018, 12:22:18 AM
Nope. I still recall the initial Syph review of this knife way back when this series was released in plastic.

To me, it resembles the lower end Spyderco Byrd line, only poorly executed.

Can do much better in a pocket clipped lockback in this size range for the cost of one of these. Better steel too.

But, if ya gotta have one in alox..........
Title: Re: Hunter Pro in Alox
Post by: cody6268 on October 21, 2018, 12:27:32 AM
It's a nice design, but I feel the steel is a bit too low-end for an $100 knife, especially one of its size.  Eickhorn though, uses 440A on their $150 PRTs. And isn't 440A similar to Vic's steel?
Title: Re: Hunter Pro in Alox
Post by: Thales of Miletus on October 25, 2018, 03:28:42 AM
I just got mine today, and I'm pleased though it's bigger than I normally carry for my everyday tasks. I'd never held a regular Pro Hunter, so I didn't know what to expect before ordering. I think if they made a 3/4 sized version it would be perfect for me. Something EDC size would allow me to get rid of a lot of other folders. I'm also dreaming of more colors.
Title: Re: Hunter Pro in Alox
Post by: gustophersmob on October 25, 2018, 04:15:50 AM
I just got mine today, and I'm pleased though it's bigger than I normally carry for my everyday tasks. I'd never held a regular Pro Hunter, so I didn't know what to expect before ordering. I think if they made a 3/4 sized version it would be perfect for me. Something EDC size would allow me to get rid of a lot of other folders. I'm also dreaming of more colors.

Nice! I'd love to see pics of it if you're able!
Title: Re: Hunter Pro in Alox
Post by: cody6268 on October 31, 2018, 08:46:40 PM
I use honing steel on my SAK blades all the time to great effect.  ???

I'm happy for you. ???

At this price point a better steel should be a piece of cake.Many other manufactures are able to offer a premium steel at this price point,so why not Victorinox?

I can order a Buck from their Custom Shop and specify S30V for $96.50.

And SK Blades has had both the 110LT Smokejumper (red scales, clip blade) and Shield (just came out, blue scales, drop point blade) with CPM-154 blades for under $40.
Title: Re: Hunter Pro in Alox
Post by: algernonramone on December 03, 2018, 10:11:06 PM
Call me crazy, but I like it.
Title: Re: Hunter Pro in Alox
Post by: EMZ on December 04, 2018, 07:13:19 PM
Don't know if I like it or not. Haven't seen it in real life, only on pics.

Vx could make this knife much much cheaper, if.... they would produce it in China or so. BUT they don't, and that's why it is somewhat more expensive as similar knives from other knife companies which out source much.