Post by: eamo on July 11, 2018, 12:56:20 PM
Post by: Syncop8r on July 11, 2018, 01:26:11 PM
Post by: Don Pablo on July 11, 2018, 02:00:47 PM
Would try again. :tu:
Post by: kottskrapa on July 11, 2018, 02:12:54 PM
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Post by: magentus on July 11, 2018, 02:50:30 PM
Post by: Kev D on July 11, 2018, 03:22:47 PM
Post by: eamo on July 11, 2018, 03:49:49 PM
I'm in! Kayaking is my form of paddling
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nice boat, what are the specs ? what gear do you generally take/use when you're paddling ?
I have a dagger stratos touring boat, pics of boat and gear to follow soon(ish) :D
Wouldn't this be better in the outdoor & survival subforum?
I had a quick look before posting Kev, and most paddling threads seem to be in the break room, but whatever you think.
Post by: eamo on July 11, 2018, 03:51:20 PM
Tell you who WON'T be joining in with this thread. Dolly :cry:
No, i'd imagine not, she'd be posting in the "all things powerboat" thread or the "terrorise eamo's family" thread
Post by: eamo on July 11, 2018, 03:52:54 PM
I’ve gone canoeing in a canal once.
Would try again. :tu:
there are canoe and kayak clubs near(ish) to you, it is a great sport/pasttime - checkout canoe.ie
Post by: kottskrapa on July 11, 2018, 04:05:28 PM
It is a havspaddeln eskimåI'm in! Kayaking is my form of paddling
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nice boat, what are the specs ? what gear do you generally take/use when you're paddling ?
I have a dagger stratos touring boat, pics of boat and gear to follow soon(ish) :DWouldn't this be better in the outdoor & survival subforum?
I had a quick look before posting Kev, and most paddling threads seem to be in the break room, but whatever you think.
Specs
Leigh 5,02 m
Width 0,57 m
Weight 26 kg
Maxload 150 kg
Material3-lagers Polyetenplast
My load depends on the trip but some extra clothes, headlamp, water and my gearpods always goes with me.
You?
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Post by: redmond on July 11, 2018, 04:18:32 PM
I’ve gone canoeing in a canal once.I fell into a canal once. Would not try it again. ;)
Would try again. :tu:
Post by: Kev D on July 11, 2018, 04:53:12 PM
I had a quick look before posting Kev, and most paddling threads seem to be in the break room, but whatever you think.
I'm easy either way. May as well leave it here, more people head this way anyway I think
Post by: Grant Lamontagne on July 11, 2018, 05:12:27 PM
My current "fleet" consists of:
Northwest Kayaks Synergy, 17 foot fiberglass touring kayak
Point 65 XO13, 13 foot rotomold plastic recreational kayak
Pelican Summit 100, 10 foot RamX kayak
The Pelican is a fun little boat to play around in at the beach or cottage, but isn't much good for travelling anywhere or taking any cargo. It is very stable, light and extremely cheap, available at virtually any/all big box stores. It is a handy little boat for places that you have to hike into because it weighs all of about 35lbs.
I bought the XO13 with the intention of fixing up my big fiberglass boat, and because I wanted a boat that could hit the odd rock here and there without making me clench every orifice. I was looking for a boat with a rudder and ended up getting one with both a rudder and an adjustable, retractable skeg, making for a very tough, versatile boat. I enjoyed it a lot until Megan laid claim to it.
The Synergy was my first boat, and the one I have put more miles on than both the others combined. It is designed for longer trips, which I haven't been able to do with it because someone has to be home each evening to walk my extremely large dogs. It was originally a very expensive boat, but it had been beat to Hades and back when I got it from a pawn shop for $275 Canadian. Ten (ish) years later and I am finally working on doing proper repairs and getting rid of those terrible "temporary" patches that have been on it since before I bought it. :facepalm:
To me paddling is a great getaway, and the ultimate adventure, as being out on the lake, river, ocean etc means that you have to be entirely self reliant.
Def
Post by: Nix on July 11, 2018, 05:19:20 PM
Post by: Syncop8r on July 11, 2018, 10:24:02 PM
I fell out of a canal once.I’ve gone canoeing in a canal once.I fell into a canal once. Would not try it again. ;)
Would try again. :tu:
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A birth canal. :facepalm:
Post by: Syncop8r on July 11, 2018, 10:27:37 PM
I'm in! Kayaking is my form of paddlingNice boat KK! :tu: I haven't seen a green kayak before.
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Post by: kottskrapa on July 11, 2018, 11:30:15 PM
Thanks! Me neither, mostly red, yellow and white around here.. And I saw a pic of a black onceI'm in! Kayaking is my form of paddlingNice boat KK! :tu: I haven't seen a green kayak before.
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Post by: Greg Jones on July 12, 2018, 01:07:54 AM
Post by: Grant Lamontagne on July 12, 2018, 04:26:20 AM
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I swear, while I am fat, I am not that bad! It's the pfd! :ahhh
Here is Megan fooling around in the XO13:
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And here is how I transport them:
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I don't have any pics of the Summit 100 handy, but you can see it here:
http://www.canadiantire.ca/en/pdp/pelican-summit-100-sit-in-kayak-10-ft-0798279p.html
I bought this one as a spare, and I have put a few miles on it, but I really don't recommend that anyone buy a boat like this. They are good enough, as I said above, for fooling around at the cottage, but as a real, useful boat they are sorely lacking.
A funny story about them- my father started paddling in a cheap Pelican like that and liked it so much that he bought a "real" kayak, a 15 foot Riot Tourlite, which is a very impressive boat. He bought it from friends of his that had bought a pair of them to see if they liked kayaking, and they were happy to sell it on as they also wanted an excuse to buy better boats.
So, when visiting my father, he would paddle the nice 15 foot Riot, and I would get stuck with the Pelican, which I started referring to as "the b*tch boat" because you kind of felt like a b*tch paddling next to a "real" boat! It was ok for a while, because we would rent a boat when my brother and I were visiting at the same time and all three of us wanted to paddle, because the rental was almost identical to the Pelican that my father already had. B*tches love company, right?
Then my brother got a Current Designs Whistler 14, which lives at my parent's place as that is where my brother does most, if not all of his paddling. And dear ol' Uncle Def got the Pelican, aka the B*tch Boat. :facepalm:
That's when I finally decided to start bringing my own boats to visit my parents. My father was impressed with how well the Synergy cuts through the water. His Riot is an elegant boat, but has nothing on my Synergy when it comes to efficient paddling! Of course he makes fun of it because it's pink, and I make fun of him for having a (relatively) tiny kid's boat, and so on and so on!
Of course I am not allowed to refer too the Pelicans as b*tch boats anymore as my nephews now both paddle Pelicans- one got the original b*tch boat and the other one got a brand new Summit 100, just like mine.
Def
Post by: Alan K. on July 12, 2018, 06:08:54 AM
Post by: Gerhard Gerber on July 12, 2018, 08:21:36 AM
Post by: Gerhard Gerber on July 12, 2018, 08:23:49 AM
Make some knives
Sell some knives
Have a canopy built for my Suzuki so.....
......hopefully I can load my little Feel Free Nomad and get out on the water again. :salute:
It's been a long time.... :-\
Hopefully before the end of 2018 :dd:
Post by: Grant Lamontagne on July 12, 2018, 12:59:51 PM
If you enjoy kayaking up there where it's cold I bet you would really enjoy an excursion down here to Florida where the water is warm and clear.
When I was in Orlando in '09 for SHOT I was amazed at all of the great places you could go kayaking there. There were streams almost everywhere and they all looked like great places to go paddling.
Then I remembered what lives in all of those waterways, and decided that maybe it wasn't such a good idea after all.
Then I got a backstage tour of Gatorland, and got up close and personal with some of those things and decided that paddling in Florida was really something I could probably do without after all.... :facepalm:
Here I am with a 13.5 foot, 1,000lb + gator named Chester:
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v645/665ae/Gatorland%2009/DefChester1.jpg)
Here I am with a (well secured) 5 foot, 200lb gator, who's name I never learned:
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v645/665ae/Gatorland%2009/Defgator1.jpg)
And here I am being killed and eaten because my Charge wasn't able to repel jaws of that magnitude:
(http://gallery.multitool.org/pbmirror/Gator.jpg)
If you are interested in seeing the whole experience, this is the thread:
https://forum.multitool.org/index.php/topic,8705.0.html
And for those of you paying attention, it's the same Johnny that I recently posted about, going back to Gatorland after ten years:
https://forum.multitool.org/index.php/topic,77762.0.html
Def
Post by: Don Pablo on July 12, 2018, 01:25:34 PM
That... must have been an interesting experience, to say the least...If you enjoy kayaking up there where it's cold I bet you would really enjoy an excursion down here to Florida where the water is warm and clear.
When I was in Orlando in '09 for SHOT I was amazed at all of the great places you could go kayaking there. There were streams almost everywhere and they all looked like great places to go paddling.
Then I remembered what lives in all of those waterways, and decided that maybe it wasn't such a good idea after all.
Then I got a backstage tour of Gatorland, and got up close and personal with some of those things and decided that paddling in Florida was really something I could probably do without after all.... :facepalm:
Here I am with a 13.5 foot, 1,000lb + gator named Chester:
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v645/665ae/Gatorland%2009/DefChester1.jpg)
Here I am with a (well secured) 5 foot, 200lb gator, who's name I never learned:
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v645/665ae/Gatorland%2009/Defgator1.jpg)
And here I am being killed and eaten because my Charge wasn't able to repel jaws of that magnitude:
(http://gallery.multitool.org/pbmirror/Gator.jpg)
If you are interested in seeing the whole experience, this is the thread:
https://forum.multitool.org/index.php/topic,8705.0.html
And for those of you paying attention, it's the same Johnny that I recently posted about, going back to Gatorland after ten years:
https://forum.multitool.org/index.php/topic,77762.0.html
Def
Post by: Grant Lamontagne on July 12, 2018, 03:09:23 PM
Def
Post by: Alan K. on July 12, 2018, 07:42:48 PM
Post by: eamo on July 27, 2018, 07:45:25 PM
Pics below, boat in dry dock for some tweaking, new dragonfly salt cos we all like our toys, common jellyfish and a rare pic from on the water :)
Post by: Grant Lamontagne on July 28, 2018, 03:01:53 AM
I'm visiting my parents this week, so I'll have lots of new paddling photos soon!
Def
Post by: Syncop8r on July 28, 2018, 03:15:20 AM
Post by: BCNZ on July 28, 2018, 03:41:00 AM
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Post by: Syncop8r on July 28, 2018, 04:17:20 AM
:nanadance: :nanadance: :nanadance:
Post by: Grant Lamontagne on August 08, 2018, 01:48:43 PM
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First up are my kayak carts. These are invaluable for transporting a kayak (or canoe) and they fold like a 70's lawn chair so they are easy to take along with you. These are both Wheeleez brand carts. I have seen others, but these are the only ones I have used and I am very happy with them. The nice thing about them is that the wheels (pictured below) are not only removable, they are also replaceable. I have the all terrain tires, but there are also ultra wide tires for going across soft sand. I've never felt the need to get them, but I like having the option.
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I've put an awful lot of mileage on these carts and appreciated having them every time. There have been times that I left them behind and really regretted it. :facepalm:
My only real complaint about them is that they don't fit in the hold of a kayak and have to be strapped to the deck, which can be a pain in the arse.
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This is my Fox 40 safety kit. It should contain a flashlight, signaling device, bailing device and a floating rope, but it doesn't. The flashlight was a cheap incandescent that died almost immediately, the signalling device is a reflective bit inside the cap, the bailing device is the bucket everything is contained in and the rope is.... well, it's a rope. In Canada one of these kits is required for each boat, but I accidentally left one in my parent's boat, so I will have to get a replacement or risk the $250 fine for not having it if I get caught. The kits retail for about $10, so I'll probably pick up a couple of new ones this week.
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This one isn't so much a piece of paddling equipment as support for the paddling equipment. It's a silicone desiccant pack and I keep four of them in the cargo box. It makes sense, as many things are likely to be wet when put away, and I don't want my stuff to get moldy. As my cargo box is 250 litres and each rechargeable pack is good for 80 litres, I have four of them that I keep in the box at all times, except for ow as I have them in the house to recharge them in the oven.
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This is one of many waterproof boxes that I have along for the ride. It is currently used for holding extra R pins for the kayak carts. R pins are used to quickly clip the wheels on, and are frequently lost, so I carry spares just in case. In fact, I think I will need to get a few more soon, as I am running low. This particular box is a GSI Extra Small Lex model in orange. I have to say that I wasn't overly thrilled with this one when compared to Otter or Pelican boxes. The plastic seems more brittle and the clips that hold it closed aren't as easy to use as the Pelicans and Otters, which is why it stays in the box and holds spare equipment instead of going on the boat and holding wallet, phone, keys, cameras etc.
Speaking of boxes....
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This is my big Plano waterproof box, and I've been using this one for years. It is uber cheap and not always the most waterproof box, so it has also been relegated to spare carrying rather than actual use. It was $25-30 at Canadian Tire and it's bigger than the Pelican 1150 box that I have which is almost $100. There's a good reason for that- this one is is kind of flimsy and the steep bars that hold the three clips on fall out from to time. :facepalm:
(http://gallery.multitool.org/var/resizes/Defventures/Kayak-Stuff/15337264644346.jpg?m=1533726991)
Inside I keep some wiring, spare bolts, nuts and washers and wrenches for trailer and equipment repair, spare rope and other random bits and pieces just in case. It is here that I have decided to keep my new wrenches (https://forum.multitool.org/index.php/topic,74233.msg1743520.html#msg1743520).
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Next post is the paddles... buckle up, that is the long bit!
Def
Post by: eamo on August 08, 2018, 02:28:32 PM
Post by: Grant Lamontagne on August 08, 2018, 02:51:24 PM
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These are Cannon Wave paddles and are generally considered best for whitewater. They are a fiberglass shaft and polymer blades, and, as you can see, the blades are short and broad so they move a lot of water, and, just as important, the shaft is also very short which encourages a high angle stroke, which generally equals more power. This type of paddling is faster, but also more tiring, which is why it is great for whitewater as it gives lots of control and speed for short periods. It's not great for longer trips as you get wiped out a lot faster. As you can see, these have been (messily) repaired after the fiberglass split on me in the middle of the lake and I lost a paddle blade. I was able to recover it and some fiberglass tape and epoxy fixed it right up. It looks terrible, but they work well, and that's what matters.
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These Aquabound paddles are the complete opposite of the Waves. They are also a fiberglass shaft and a polymer blade, but the shaft and blades are significantly longer. The blades are also narrower, meaning these push a lot less water. The longer shaft encourages a low angle paddle which saves a lot of energy, which, coupled with the narrow blade means this paddle is much, much slower, but great for long distance paddling, since it means that you are not exhausting yourself. I actually carried these as spare paddles a few times, and at one point one paddle half was swept off my boat and into the ocean. As I was concentrating on not being dead, I hadn't noticed the loss of the paddle until I was safely on shore and packing up. I was pretty bummed, but at Paddlefest the next year they coincidentally had a matching paddle half. I don't think it was my original since I lost it on the opposite side of the province, but it was an amazing stroke of luck to find the exact paddle half I'd lost!
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These Aquabound paddles are very similar to the black ones above, only not quite as long, and they don't have a cool story to go along with them like the black ones. :D
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I have two almost identical sets of these, and they are Megan's favorite to use. These Accent brand paddles are all carbon fiber, which means they are super strong and remarkably lightweight. They are the lightest paddles I have since both have shafts and blades made of carbon fiber. Both of these put together weigh less than any other single set of paddles i have, and almost feel like there's nothing there at all. I love these paddles too, and, since Megan usually uses one set, I usually bring the other set along as spares. Why do I need spares? Re-read the section above where I say I broke a paddle blade off in the middle of a lake once... always bring at least one set of spare paddles, because a long walk home is made much longer when you have to drag a boat with you.
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These are mu favorite paddles- they are also Accent paddles and have a carbon shaft and polymer blades. What sets these apart is that they are bent shaft paddles, which are not only more ergonomic, but also add about an inch to your paddle stroke. They are a lot less common than the straight shaft paddles, and despite being technically better, not everyone likes them. This is my second set of bent shaft paddles. I lost one half of my first set a few years ago and I was devastated, as it was due to stupidity and not a legitimate accident like when I lost the paddle half in the story above. Luckily I managed to come across these ones shortly afterwards for an excellent price. They were brand new, but had been slightly damaged in shipping- you can see the tip of the blade was snapped off, and so I picked them up for a fraction of what they should have cost. The chip doesn't really affect the way they paddle so I've been paddling with them as is, although I do have many other paddles that I could swap blades on if it ever started to bother me. I do manage to have a little fun with it though, as I have convinced my nephews that the tip of my paddle was bitten off by a shark while paddling in the ocean. :D
I have a few other paddles as well, but these are the ones that I usually bring with me, even though the carbon fiber and bent shaft paddles are the only ones that regularly get used.
Def
Post by: Gerhard Gerber on August 08, 2018, 03:27:14 PM
Post by: Grant Lamontagne on August 08, 2018, 04:25:11 PM
That's quite a setup......as it should be! :salute:
It's worth mentioning that most of this is the result of buying second hand, bargain hunting and costs spread over many years. Not counting the trailer, I am well over $10k replacement costs for two boats and the equipment kept in the cargo box. I have a lot less than that actually invested in it though.
The carbon fiber paddles and bent shaft are all worth about $400 each, but I got them for less than $100 each by looking for ones with minor damage and getting them at liquidation pricing. The fiberglass paddles are worth around $150-200 each, but some were bought for as little as $10 because they were rental units being liquidated. My fiberglass boat was also heavily damaged when I bought it- new it goes for about $3200, I bought it for $275 ten years ago. Even counting the $$ I am spending on it to repair it, it is still well below market value. Megan's boat cost me less than $1000 because I bought it for $800 on sale, instead of the $1200 it was originally going for. There was no damage to it, it was just an end of season sale.
I am proud of the stuff I have, as I believe I have a pretty good setup, and my biggest worry is that it will all be stolen or damaged at some point and I will have to replace it all at real costs rather than what I paid for things. Much of what you see above was slowly upgraded from cheaper equipment as I found deals on things- for example, I started with a paddle that had an aluminum shaft and polymer blades and they weighed a ton. I also started with a standard neoprene life jacket, which, under normal circumstances would be extremely comfortable but rides up in a kayak and restricts movement. I also paddled for years without a safety kit.... :facepalm:
Def
Post by: Grant Lamontagne on August 08, 2018, 05:00:49 PM
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The yellow/orange one is the Point 65 XO13 that Megan usually paddles. When I got it, it had gas pedal style foot pedals to control the rudder, but with my messed up ankles, the gas pedal style doesn't work for me. The gas pedal style rotates around a pivot point, so I changed it to L style brackets that push back and forth. Those are a simpler, cheaper options and not a lot of manufacturers offer them any more as they seem pretty basic.
The blue and white one is my father's Riot Tourlite 15, a thermoformed plastic skin on frame design similar to my big fiberglass boat. Instead of fiberglass (or kevlar or carbon fiber etc) the Tourlite uses a plastic sheet that is heated and moulded over a frame to create a multi chine hull for added stability. The design didn't last long, likely because of the expense of making it, but makes for a nice boat that combines the (almost) lightweight factor of fiberglass and the added resiliency of the plastic, which is less brittle than fiberglass. Unfortunately it is a bigger pain in the arse to repair than fiberglass so you have to be really careful with it. The skin on frame design allows for a much sharper keel, which you notice when paddling in rougher water. This boat, like my big fiberglass one, tends to punch through waves and pop out smoothly on the other side, while the rotomoulded plastic boats have a flatter hull that tends to go over the waves instead of through them.
Speaking of rotomoulded boats, like the Point 65 boat above, the green one is my brother's rotomoulded plastic Current Designs Whistler 14. It's a nice boat with a rudder and is a bit more compact than the Point 65, despite being a foot longer. The forward deck is a lot lower, while the Point 65 deck feels like it was moulded with a beach ball in the cockpit. My brother also has an MEC (Mountain Equipment Co Op) Aegir deck bag. I originally got one for my own kayak, but it got in my way more than it helped, so I gave it to my father, who liked it so much that he also got one for my brother. :D
Rotomould boats are usually stronger and more stable than skin on frame designs, but they unfortunately weigh almost twice as much due to the thickness of the plastic. In fact, my 17 foot boat weighs in around 40 pounds, while the Point 65 13 foot boat weighs 52 pounds. The flip side is that a fiberglass boat costs 2-3 times as much as a rotomoulded one, and a kevlar of CF boat can be double that of a fiberglass one.
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These are also part of the Lamontagne Fleet- a trio of Pelicans, made by the same folks that do the Pelican boxes, flashlights etc. The Canoe is a Pelican Explorer 14.6 DLX and included moulded in seats and cargo box/center seat. It is a nice, robust boat that suffers from being quite heavy. I have paddled this boat and I like it a lot, although this isn't one you want to paddle by yourself due to the weight.
The red and white one is a Pelican Summit 100, a ten foot molded plastic boat using Pelican's proprietary RAM-X plastic that is surprisingly strong despite it's thinness. It has no frame- it is just two molded halves heat sealed together and weights all of about 35 pounds. It's short, being only ten feet long but is also remarkably wide, making it super stable. I have one just like it in my garage in Halifax that I picked up brand new from Canadian Tire for under $300. This particular one belongs to my older nephew.
The blue one is an older version of the Summit, made from a thicker plastic and is a rotomould. It is also the boat that is responsible for all of the other boats in the Fleet. This is the boat my father started paddling in, when friends visited with a pair of them. He tried it and liked it, then when they decided to upgrade, sold him this one, which he paddled for a couple of years before upgrading to the Riot. My brother and I paddled this Pelican for years until I got my big fiberglass boat and my brother got the Whistler. Then I got the Point 65, my brother's wife wanted the canoe and so on and so on. My younger nephew now paddles this boat, and is a lot more interested in paddling than his older brother.
These are inexpensive boats, good for farting around at the cottage, but are not so good for actually covering any distance. They are short and wide and track terribly compared to every other boat in the Fleet. They are stable though, which is great as both boys like to stand up in them and jump off them to go swimming. When the boys get older I have no doubt they will graduate to bigger boats, but at this point they are still unable to keep up with the rest of us on the longer trips the rest of us like to go on.
I hope to add another canoe to the mix soon. I am looking for a decent deal on an old Sports Pal canoe, which is a Canadian brand built not far from here in a city called North Bay. They make them out of aluminum and the boats are extremely light- a 12 foot aluminum canoe will weigh as little as 35 pounds! And, they are very resistant to puncture, but when you do, there is a proud Canadian tradition of repairing them with tree sap and beer cans. :D
Def
Post by: ThundahBeagle on August 13, 2018, 09:00:06 PM
Im running some rather simple equipment and gear, really. A 10 foot Wilderness Systems Pamlico, or a 9.5 foot Islander Swifty. They are both about 10 years old and have been repaired with an old Frisbee and a heat gun. An Extra Sport life vest, and some Field & Stream branded paddles. I keep a rope with me, a knife, and whatever I need for lunch and water. I usually just cruise, sometimes blast to one side of a lake and back, sometimes I fish. Scout the ThunderBeagle has been known to accompany me, and I keep him clipped to a harness which is clipped to the seat. He likes to stand at the bow scouting for seabirds or watching for other dogs and animals along the shore, and will alternately jump in and then ask to be hoisted out of the drink.
Post by: ThundahBeagle on August 13, 2018, 09:01:24 PM
Post by: ThundahBeagle on August 13, 2018, 09:01:53 PM
Post by: kottskrapa on August 14, 2018, 10:43:30 AM
Here are some pics from yesterday's trip paddling around in Gothenburg
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180814/3476f680ee5594ce7a1de0950c6bec9e.jpg)
Through an amusement park
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180814/92d3b4e32fda44eb954d85b9815f8a00.jpg)
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180814/bb3945c8c5eeb5e9177430ee07ead865.jpg)
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180814/2c6e1263b80afdb642d0c60f8bca3eaa.jpg)
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Post by: Grant Lamontagne on August 14, 2018, 01:01:02 PM
As for being too late in the season, be careful, I got my boats out too early this year and winter wasn't quite done with us.... :ahhh
(http://gallery.multitool.org/var/resizes/Defventures/Kayak-Ice/Kayak%20Ice%20%287%29.jpg?m=1523890398)
(http://gallery.multitool.org/var/resizes/Defventures/Kayak-Ice/Kayak%20Ice%20%288%29.jpg?m=1523890398)
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Post by: ThundahBeagle on August 15, 2018, 04:49:13 PM
Looking good! I have similar kayakholders on my wj
Here are some pics from yesterday's trip paddling around in Gothenburg
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180814/3476f680ee5594ce7a1de0950c6bec9e.jpg)
Through an amusement park
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180814/92d3b4e32fda44eb954d85b9815f8a00.jpg)
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180814/bb3945c8c5eeb5e9177430ee07ead865.jpg)
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180814/2c6e1263b80afdb642d0c60f8bca3eaa.jpg)
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Nice gear, Kotts! And what an enchanting place in which to be paddling!
Yeah, my WJ has done well by me. A lot of people don't know that they have the same motor and same Dana 35c and Dana 30 axles that were in the CJ and Wranglers all the way up to 2006. So when wrangler driver look askance at my ride, I like to remind them I have the same power and gearing they have, with more passenger and storage, and more tow capacity.
I originally wanted an XJ, but settled on this. I like it
This very day, I am installing Iron Rock Off Road 2 inch lift springs, with new isolators, new Pro Comp shocks, and new Moog anti sway bar links. We will see what it needs from there.
I'm stoked about it
Post by: ThundahBeagle on August 15, 2018, 04:51:47 PM
Great pics guys!
As for being too late in the season, be careful, I got my boats out too early this year and winter wasn't quite done with us.... :ahhh
(http://gallery.multitool.org/var/resizes/Defventures/Kayak-Ice/Kayak%20Ice%20%287%29.jpg?m=1523890398)
(http://gallery.multitool.org/var/resizes/Defventures/Kayak-Ice/Kayak%20Ice%20%288%29.jpg?m=1523890398)
Def
Nice one, Def. We seem that much more rugged (or daft) to the rest of the world when they see our kayaks with frost and icicles on them
Post by: Grant Lamontagne on August 15, 2018, 09:12:23 PM
But that only lasts between December and April.... :facepalm:
Def
Post by: kottskrapa on August 16, 2018, 07:25:01 AM
Some pics when done I hope?Looking good! I have similar kayakholders on my wj
Here are some pics from yesterday's trip paddling around in Gothenburg
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180814/3476f680ee5594ce7a1de0950c6bec9e.jpg)
Through an amusement park
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180814/92d3b4e32fda44eb954d85b9815f8a00.jpg)
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180814/bb3945c8c5eeb5e9177430ee07ead865.jpg)
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180814/2c6e1263b80afdb642d0c60f8bca3eaa.jpg)
[It's not failure if you learn something from it]
Nice gear, Kotts! And what an enchanting place in which to be paddling!
Yeah, my WJ has done well by me. A lot of people don't know that they have the same motor and same Dana 35c and Dana 30 axles that were in the CJ and Wranglers all the way up to 2006. So when wrangler driver look askance at my ride, I like to remind them I have the same power and gearing they have, with more passenger and storage, and more tow capacity.
I originally wanted an XJ, but settled on this. I like it
This very day, I am installing Iron Rock Off Road 2 inch lift springs, with new isolators, new Pro Comp shocks, and new Moog anti sway bar links. We will see what it needs from there.
I'm stoked about it
[It's not failure if you learn something from it]
Post by: Gareth on August 16, 2018, 04:45:15 PM
Post by: eamo on August 16, 2018, 05:50:46 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/FPmGyeU.jpg)
These boats were all bought new as second hand paddling gear is like hens teeth here. Why did I choose this particular boat ?
Well, ideally I'd love a nice 17 footer expedition type sea boat - not gonna happen mostly cos I can't afford one :D. I choose the dagger for a few reasons - i've used their river boats and liked them, found them to be good quality; because of finances I was constrained to getting a touring boat and the dagger seemed the best bang for my buck. Finally, the first one I got (the yellow one) i got a real good deal on. It is relatively small (14.5 foot) but handles very nice, has quite a rocker so is maneuverable but that in turn impacts it's handling over long distances. However, most of my paddling now days is day trips. It is light (about 25kg) so I can put it on the roof of my van by myself.
The yellow one is mine.
Link to the manufacturer - https://www.dagger.com/eu/en/kayaks/stratos-145-s
Also pictured are some of the paddles we use - Werner Shuna, Werner Tybee and the splits are an aluminium set I got off amazon. I've paddled with them and they're good enough to get one of us out of trouble.
We generally use Palm BA's and we carry an FAK, 2 tow ropes, mobile phone(s) and a VHF, and a knife per BA as well as other miscellaneous kit. If anyone is interested in pics of the BA's and the rest of the gear I can take some.
Post by: Grant Lamontagne on August 16, 2018, 06:23:21 PM
I have also had a set of cheap Carlisle paddles with an aluminum shaft, but I gave those away years ago when I decided I was never going to use them again. Actually they were on an extended loan until someone else could replace the even worse Pelican flat bladed paddles they had.
https://www.pelicansport.com/ca_en/standard-kayak-paddle
These things are dangerous- I have almost flipped kayaks using paddles like these because they get out of alignment in your hand and then provide no resistance in the water.
These are the Carlisle paddles I had:
https://store.carlislepaddles.com/products/461127/Day_Tripper_Kayak_Paddle?pid=860ae5f1f069f12e3e16936664d11acb
When I discovered fiberglass and carbon shafts I never went back to aluminum! :ahhh
Meanwhile, my father prefers these Carlisle paddles:
https://store.carlislepaddles.com/products/1100711/Expedition_Kayak_Paddle?pid=47bddd6255703fc1dcf73aced9afd3f5
They are also very nice and extremely light, but the blades are fiberglass and I am a little too rough on paddles to do fiberglass blades myself. They wouldn't last too long.... :ahhh
Def
Post by: Grant Lamontagne on August 21, 2018, 01:18:19 PM
I am justifying it because my big fiberglass boat is taking too long to finish, and the guy that was going to clear coat it for me in in the hospital and won't be able to get at it for another month, and the season is almost over and I am missing paddling too much! :ahhh
(http://gallery.multitool.org/var/resizes/Defventures/Kayak-Stuff/Sun-Flight/Sun%20Flight%20%286%29.jpg?m=1534849030)
Its a Sun Flight model, produced by Riot, a formerly Canadian company that went out of business a few years ago, and was bought up by a Chinese company. Riot is the same company that made my father's blue and white boat above. As you can see, the color and sizing very closely matches the Point 65 XO13 that Megan paddles.
(http://gallery.multitool.org/var/resizes/Defventures/Kayak-Stuff/Sun-Flight/Sun%20Flight%20%287%29.jpg?m=1534849030)
This one is 12.5 feet long and is a hybrid whitewater boat, meaning that it (supposedly) works well in whitewater and as a light touring model. We will see, I haven't gotten it into the water yet, so I will reserve judgement until I do. But, I have been wanting a whitewater boat, so I am glad that I found this one. And, I was glad for the price- only $300 and it included a dry bag, skirt and paddle!
(http://gallery.multitool.org/var/resizes/Defventures/Kayak-Stuff/Sun-Flight/Sun%20Flight%20%281%29.jpg?m=1534849029)
For that price, you may be wondering what is wrong with it.... well, it's not perfect. The seller told me he paid $1275 for it, and that may be true, but I can tell you that he got ripped off for it if he did. This is the cheapest version of the boat available. It has a cheap seat (to which they have added a seat pad) and the front storage hatch is molded in but was never cut open for use. The shock cord fore and aft of the cockpit is pathetically cheap and saggy, but I will replace that in minutes. The back hatch is complete, but there are no bulkheads, so the entire interior of the boat from bow to stern is open, with no dry storage, which is probably why they had a skirt and dry bag with it.
(http://gallery.multitool.org/var/resizes/Defventures/Kayak-Stuff/Sun-Flight/Sun%20Flight%20%282%29.jpg?m=1534849029)
(http://gallery.multitool.org/var/resizes/Defventures/Kayak-Stuff/Sun-Flight/Sun%20Flight%20%285%29.jpg?m=1534849029)
(http://gallery.multitool.org/var/resizes/Defventures/Kayak-Stuff/Sun-Flight/Sun%20Flight%20%284%29.jpg?m=1534849029)
And perhaps the most obvious reason this was a cheap boat (well, ok, second most obvious, after the uncut front hold!) is that it was designed for use with a rudder, and yet one was never installed.
(http://gallery.multitool.org/var/resizes/Defventures/Kayak-Stuff/Sun-Flight/Sun%20Flight%20%283%29.jpg?m=1534849029)
You can see the line holes that were molded in but never drilled (that's the teardrop shaped holes on either side) and the two holes in the molded in triangle where one would mount the blade rest, also never drilled, and the two screws in the stern for mounting the rudder housing. This is great because it will allow me to add a rudder later on if I so choose, but I may not as I am also well used to paddling without a rudder since I don't have one on my big boat.
With all that is "wrong" with the boat, what is right with it? Well, for one, the price was absolutely right for it. You'd have a hard time finding any boats for that kind of money, and even the cheap Pelicans usually go for that or more. For another, I like that I can shoot rapids and other whitewater with it. It will also be fun to surf in it when I get back to the ocean. It has a multi chined hull (exclusive design to Riot) that supposedly increases secondary stability and helps it track like a much larger boat- I will post pics of it later, but it's funny because it looks like a certain part of the female anatomy and that amuses the 12 year old in me. Also the length and color matching the Point 65 is also kind of neat. I'm not 100% in love with the color schemes on either of them, but it is cool that they sort of match... and in the end, color don't make it go no faster. :D
I'm going to clean it up today, and if all goes well, maybe get it into the water, and I will let you all know how it goes afterwards.
Def
Post by: Nix on August 21, 2018, 02:48:29 PM
It's kinda nice to have a 'beater' kayak.
I prefer a rudderless kayak myself. I like using the foot pegs to brace against and can steer just fine with the paddle. But, I do like sealed bulkheads fore and aft--less water to pump out after a rollover and a bit more flotation. Still, dry bags can give you the same benefits.
Enjoy the new 'yak! :like:
Post by: Gareth on August 21, 2018, 09:28:55 PM
Post by: Grant Lamontagne on August 21, 2018, 10:19:25 PM
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Post by: Grant Lamontagne on August 22, 2018, 12:14:01 PM
(http://gallery.multitool.org/var/resizes/Defventures/Kayak-Stuff/Seaclude%20by%20Aquabound.jpg?m=1534885295)
They are 230cm Seaclude paddles from Aquabound and they are absolutely mint. I doubt they have been used more than a couple of times. They have a really nice blade but since they have an aluminum shaft they are virtually worthless to me, even though these are roughly $100 paddles. I am tempted to try and swap the blades with the chipped ones on my bent shaft paddles, but I'll probably just list them for sale locally. I'd love to pass them to a forum member, but the shipping would be a killer. I am willing to look into it though, should anyone want them.
Def
Post by: eamo on August 22, 2018, 12:40:31 PM
Did you get to paddle it yet ?
Rudders don't seem overly common in Europe most boats I've paddled have skegs instead and probably because I learned to paddle without a rudder I dislike them.
Post by: Grant Lamontagne on August 22, 2018, 12:51:32 PM
I am hoping to get out later today, even if it's a short paddle.
Def
Post by: ThundahBeagle on August 23, 2018, 09:19:13 PM
Some pics when done I hope?Looking good! I have similar kayakholders on my wj
Here are some pics from yesterday's trip paddling around in Gothenburg
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180814/3476f680ee5594ce7a1de0950c6bec9e.jpg)
Through an amusement park
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180814/92d3b4e32fda44eb954d85b9815f8a00.jpg)
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180814/bb3945c8c5eeb5e9177430ee07ead865.jpg)
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180814/2c6e1263b80afdb642d0c60f8bca3eaa.jpg)
[It's not failure if you learn something from it]
Nice gear, Kotts! And what an enchanting place in which to be paddling!
Yeah, my WJ has done well by me. A lot of people don't know that they have the same motor and same Dana 35c and Dana 30 axles that were in the CJ and Wranglers all the way up to 2006. So when wrangler driver look askance at my ride, I like to remind them I have the same power and gearing they have, with more passenger and storage, and more tow capacity.
I originally wanted an XJ, but settled on this. I like it
This very day, I am installing Iron Rock Off Road 2 inch lift springs, with new isolators, new Pro Comp shocks, and new Moog anti sway bar links. We will see what it needs from there.
I'm stoked about it
[It's not failure if you learn something from it]
Kotts,
That phase of the lift is done. It does well around town and over potholes, and does well at highway speeds. It does NOT do well over potholes at highway speeds... I plan on replacing the Panhard rod (track bar), the tie rod ends, the steering damper and see where that lands me. If all is well, new tires and a dynamic alignment. I took a few pics but I'm headed to NYC right now and will have to upload later.
Maybe I will put it in the Jeep section
Post by: ThundahBeagle on August 23, 2018, 09:24:42 PM
Rear quarter shot before lift...
Post by: ThundahBeagle on August 23, 2018, 09:26:39 PM
Rear quarter shot after lift...
Post by: ThundahBeagle on August 23, 2018, 09:27:50 PM
Post by: ThundahBeagle on August 23, 2018, 09:28:25 PM
Post by: ThundahBeagle on August 23, 2018, 09:30:45 PM
Post by: kottskrapa on August 23, 2018, 09:43:58 PM
Side view after liftThat looks really nice! My is also from - 99 and looks just as low as your first pic.. I do know for a fact that I have the factory setup still on.. Might just get new ones and get up to the "normal" hight again..
Congrats on a good job
[It's not failure if you learn something from it]
Post by: ThundahBeagle on August 24, 2018, 06:30:57 PM
Side view after liftThat looks really nice! My is also from - 99 and looks just as low as your first pic.. I do know for a fact that I have the factory setup still on.. Might just get new ones and get up to the "normal" hight again..
Congrats on a good job
[It's not failure if you learn something from it]
Kotts,
Thanks! The normal height for these was fine. It won several awards when the model came out in 99, and while it was no rock-crawler, it was no slouch on trails. And with the factory tow package it could be rated and geared for as much as 5 thousand pounds tow capacity. Like yours, mine was probably an inch below stock the last few years, so the 2" lift raised it about 3" from where I had been. What an eye opener.
And to make this all paddle-related, later today I will post a pic with a kayak on top
Post by: kottskrapa on August 25, 2018, 11:56:21 AM
I'm looking forward to it! And thanks for the infoSide view after liftThat looks really nice! My is also from - 99 and looks just as low as your first pic.. I do know for a fact that I have the factory setup still on.. Might just get new ones and get up to the "normal" hight again..
Congrats on a good job
[It's not failure if you learn something from it]
Kotts,
Thanks! The normal height for these was fine. It won several awards when the model came out in 99, and while it was no rock-crawler, it was no slouch on trails. And with the factory tow package it could be rated and geared for as much as 5 thousand pounds tow capacity. Like yours, mine was probably an inch below stock the last few years, so the 2" lift raised it about 3" from where I had been. What an eye opener.
And to make this all paddle-related, later today I will post a pic with a kayak on top
[It's not failure if you learn something from it]
Post by: Grant Lamontagne on August 25, 2018, 01:50:19 PM
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Post by: Grant Lamontagne on August 28, 2018, 01:33:27 AM
https://www.vanityfair.com/style/2018/01/from-nazi-germany-to-australia-the-incredible-true-story-of-historys-longest-kayak-journey
A must read for anyone interested in history, paddling or adventure in general- why the hell aren't there movies made about this guy's life? I'd love to see that!
Def
Post by: ThundahBeagle on August 28, 2018, 07:50:02 PM
Post by: ThundahBeagle on August 28, 2018, 07:51:27 PM
Post by: Grant Lamontagne on August 29, 2018, 02:26:15 AM
Here are some pics I took the two times I have had it out so far:
(http://gallery.multitool.org/var/resizes/Defventures/Kayak-Stuff/Sun-Flight/Sun%20Flight%20%282%29-01.jpg?m=1535501364)
One of the cool things about it sitting so low in the water is that it looks like I am going really fast, when in fact I am paddling at my usual speed of about 3mph (5-6km/hr).
(http://gallery.multitool.org/var/resizes/Defventures/Kayak-Stuff/Sun-Flight/Sun%20Flight%20%288%29.jpg?m=1535501365)
(http://gallery.multitool.org/var/resizes/Defventures/Kayak-Stuff/Sun-Flight/Sun%20Flight%20%287%29-01.jpg?m=1535501365)
(http://gallery.multitool.org/var/resizes/Defventures/Kayak-Stuff/Sun-Flight/Sun%20Flight%20%289%29.jpg?m=1535501365)
This was in the chop, when it was calm enough for me to take my paddles out of the water and not die. :D
(http://gallery.multitool.org/var/resizes/Defventures/Kayak-Stuff/Sun-Flight/Sun%20Flight%20%2810%29.jpg?m=1535501365)
You will notice the boat and my flip flops are MUCH wetter in these photos!
(http://gallery.multitool.org/var/resizes/Defventures/Kayak-Stuff/Sun-Flight/Sun%20Flight%20%2811%29.jpg?m=1535501366)
(http://gallery.multitool.org/var/resizes/Defventures/Kayak-Stuff/Sun-Flight/Sun%20Flight%20%2813%29.jpg?m=1535501366)
These are the Deschenes Rapids I had gone to previously in my big boat (https://forum.multitool.org/index.php/topic,68549.0.html). The water level is a bit lower, but they are still every bit as dangerous! :ahhh
(http://gallery.multitool.org/var/resizes/Defventures/Kayak-Stuff/Sun-Flight/Sun%20Flight%20%283%29-01.jpg?m=1535501364)
(http://gallery.multitool.org/var/resizes/Defventures/Kayak-Stuff/Sun-Flight/Sun%20Flight%20%284%29-01.jpg?m=1535501364)
(http://gallery.multitool.org/var/resizes/Defventures/Kayak-Stuff/Sun-Flight/Sun%20Flight%20%285%29-01.jpg?m=1535501364)
Obligatory "I'm not dead yet" selfie. :D
(http://gallery.multitool.org/var/resizes/Defventures/Kayak-Stuff/Sun-Flight/Sun%20Flight%20%281%29-01.jpg?m=1535501364)
And the boat survived as well.
(http://gallery.multitool.org/var/resizes/Defventures/Kayak-Stuff/Sun-Flight/Sun%20Flight%20%2814%29.jpg?m=1535501367)
It won't replace my big boat for long distances, but it is an easy and fun boat to paddle in it's own right. While my big boat tends to smooth out the waves (it's so long you are usually over top of at least three different swells!) this one likes to go up one swell and under the next! If the weather isn't too bad tomorrow (been threatening thunderstorms) I will take it out with a GoPro and record some very cool footage of this thing diving and doing cool stuff.
As I told my nephew, this is a great boat for doing stupid things in!
Def
Post by: zoidberg on August 29, 2018, 02:38:29 AM
As I told my nephew, this is a great boat for doing stupid things in!
That's my kind of boat! :facepalm:
Post by: Grant Lamontagne on August 29, 2018, 02:52:28 AM
As I told my nephew, this is a great boat for doing stupid things in!
That's my kind of boat! :facepalm:
Mine too. :D
I do stupid things in all of my boats, but this one seems like it was built for doing dumb things, rather than just being the wrong boat to do dumb things in. Like shooting rapids in a fiberglass ocean boat or deliberately sinking a tandem kayak so we know how much water we can take on before we were screwed. I miss my old buddy Frank- we did lots of stupid things together, and had a blast doing it. :D
Def
Post by: Gareth on August 29, 2018, 09:26:17 AM
Post by: Grant Lamontagne on August 29, 2018, 12:06:15 PM
For those keeping score, I wore a skirt when I didnt need to, and i didnt wear a skirt when i did need to. :facepalm:
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Post by: Grant Lamontagne on August 30, 2018, 03:11:39 AM
https://paddling.com/learn/paddleboarder-crashes-into-whale/?utm_source=paddling.com+subscriber+list&utm_campaign=d90ee5c6c3-EMAIL_CAMPAIGN_2018_08_29&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_f2ead8a079-d90ee5c6c3-212708641&mc_cid=d90ee5c6c3&mc_eid=0822281c27
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Post by: Grant Lamontagne on August 30, 2018, 04:59:15 PM
https://youtu.be/mZ-_pljabqE
You can really see why the bow has to be pitched up so sharply!
Def
Post by: Gareth on August 30, 2018, 05:06:40 PM
Post by: eamo on August 30, 2018, 05:18:14 PM
Post by: Grant Lamontagne on August 30, 2018, 05:24:31 PM
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Post by: Grant Lamontagne on September 20, 2018, 05:21:08 PM
In addition to the photos and videos posted in this thread (https://forum.multitool.org/index.php/topic,74385.0.html) and this thread (https://forum.multitool.org/index.php/topic,73226.0.html), I also went to visit my parents in Blind River and spent a few days at a friend's cottage in Quebec. That cottage is the reason I had to get my trailer repaired in a hurry after the issues at Lac LaPeche.
While visiting my parents I went paddling twice- once by myself on a nice quiet river off the Blind River that my parents live on, called the Potomac. It's not pronounced like the more famous one in the US, it's more like Pot-Oh-Mac.
(http://gallery.multitool.org/var/resizes/Defventures/Blind-River/September-2018/Blind%20River%20September%202018%20%281%29.jpg?m=1537453616)
The Potomac is a nice, gentle, winding river with almost no power boat traffic due to the shallow water. It is however a great place to fish or hunt ducks, so occasionally some folks will venture up that way. Fortunately on this trip, I didn't see anyone else, which is just the way I like it. I had to stop and turn around a few kilometers in because the beavers have built a large dam across the river and I didn't feel like portaging around it or taking my chances to go through it. Beavers may seem cute and cuddly in pictures, but they are actually very foul tempered and extremely tough. Even wolves and bears avoid them, so I wasn't going to mess with them!
(http://gallery.multitool.org/var/resizes/Defventures/Blind-River/September-2018/Blind%20River%20September%202018%20%282%29.jpg?m=1537453616)
I also try not to paddle through weeds whenever possible as I hate to disturb any more than I have to, but the water was so low that I didn't have much choice this time. It is kind of fun to go through them, even if you do occasionally get covered with spiders. :ahhh
The next day my father and I went paddling up the Blind to a lake called Duborne. My mother, on shore managed to snap a few neat pics. First off, this one struck me as pretty cool since I had no idea how little freeboard there was on the aft end of this boat!
(http://gallery.multitool.org/var/resizes/Defventures/Blind-River/September-2018/Freeboard.jpg?m=1537451647)
I knew the front end was low, I hadn't realized that everything behind the seat was so close to being a submarine! I feel like I should mount a GoPro behind me to see how often the stern is under water!
Mom also took this photo that I call The Riot Squad, since we are both paddling Riot kayaks, even if mine is a sub-brand called Sun.
(http://gallery.multitool.org/var/resizes/Defventures/Blind-River/September-2018/Riot%20Squad.jpg?m=1537452274)
Dad's boat is a Riot Tourlite 15, roughly two feel longer than mine, and as you can see, it is designed for a very different purpose than mine is!
(http://gallery.multitool.org/var/resizes/Defventures/Blind-River/September-2018/Blind%20River%20September%202018%20%283%29.jpg?m=1537453616)
After Mom took a few pictures we headed off, and I have to say there are few things in this world that can make me as happy as paddling with my father does.
(http://gallery.multitool.org/var/resizes/Defventures/Blind-River/September-2018/Blind%20River%20September%202018%20%284%29.jpg?m=1537453616)
This is us out on the lake. We had a great time, as usual! I'd post more pics, but Dad is paranoid about having his picture on the internet, so no one tell him these are here, ok? :D
Def
Post by: eamo on September 20, 2018, 05:49:38 PM
any plans to put bulkheads in the new boat ?
Post by: Grant Lamontagne on September 20, 2018, 06:09:34 PM
(http://gallery.multitool.org/var/resizes/Defventures/Bouchette/15374551993170.jpg?m=1537456813)
You tell me.... :D
This lake is actually part of a series of lakes that eventually connects to the Gatineau River, which flows down to the Ottawa River, through the town of Gatineau, which is directly across the Ottawa River from me. Theoretically, we could paddle home from there, although I would imagine it would take several days, and I doubt very much the dogs would appreciate it!
(http://gallery.multitool.org/var/resizes/Defventures/Bouchette/15374551997134.jpg?m=1537456813)
Though it doesn't show very well in photos, the water is crystal clear here thanks to all the clay in the bottom. We were places where the water had to be 20 feet deep and we could still see the bottom. Naturally we did some snorkeling while we were there, but this is the paddling thread, not the breathing underwater thread. :D
(http://gallery.multitool.org/var/resizes/Defventures/Bouchette/15374551994391.jpg?m=1537456813)
We went paddling a couple of times, and the lake was perfectly mirror smooth both times, although not once I'd paddled over it! The new kayak makes a lot of noise, splashes a lot and leaves a huge wake behind it. But then, it isn't meant to be a smooth boat, so you really can't blame it.
(http://gallery.multitool.org/var/resizes/Defventures/Bouchette/15374551995232.jpg?m=1537456812)
We were paddling fairly early in the morning, and this, being cottage country on a weekday, we pretty well had the lake to ourselves. The few people that we did see were out trying to catch some of the massive fish we saw in the water. I figured it must be easy to fish in a place where you can see the fish coming from a few hundred yards away!
(http://gallery.multitool.org/var/resizes/Defventures/Bouchette/15374551995863.jpg?m=1537456813)
I was also amused, when we got back that the colors of both boats were so complimentary that when viewed on a certain angle, they look like a larger tandem boat rather than two singles! :D
Def
Post by: Grant Lamontagne on September 20, 2018, 06:11:17 PM
now that is a quality days paddling ! :like:
any plans to put bulkheads in the new boat ?
I think about it from time to time, but I don't think I will bother. There's really not much to gain in the end, as waterproof bulkheads don't stay waterproof for more than a couple of years. In the end I think I will just keep using a skirt to minimize the water that gets in and use dry bags for the rest.
Def
Post by: Gareth on September 21, 2018, 04:44:51 PM
Post by: Grant Lamontagne on September 21, 2018, 11:13:43 PM
Grant that looks like an amazing place for a paddle. Superb pictures as well. :hatsoff:
Canada is a fantastic place for all things outdoors, and paddling is just one of many awesome things to do outdoors here. I like paddling the most because you can end up in some pretty out of the way places that others just don't get to see. Unfortunately many folks from other places in the world don't know understand the scale of things here, and too many "outfitters" either don't know or don't care enough to properly equip foreigners for adventures in Canada.
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/manitoba/german-paddlers-unprepared-hayes-canoe-trip-1.4269352
I could take you some places that would blow your mind, and sadly I am not a good enough photographer to do these places proper justice.
Def
Post by: Grant Lamontagne on September 28, 2018, 06:39:55 PM
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Post by: MadPlumbarian on October 22, 2018, 09:03:50 PM
JR
Post by: Grant Lamontagne on October 23, 2018, 02:07:33 AM
If so....
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1- it's a relatively short boat, so probably not that efficient to paddle in the first place.
2- the coolers would get in the way of the paddles while paddling.
3- the coolers would be in the water and adding a significant amount of drag.
4- the awning would catch a lot of wind and blow the boat around a lot.
5- if used for fishing (which appears to be what it is meant for) then the awning posts are in the fishing rod holders.
6- further to above, the awning would get in the way of casting.
That having been said, it could be useful if:
A- you don't have to paddle far to get to your fishing spot.
B- you don't cast, but plan to just drop a line in.
C- you use an anchor
D- you add on another rod holder like one of these units to the front/table.
(https://i2.wp.com/www.paddlepursuits.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/p1030186.jpg?resize=696%2C522&ssl=1)
2- the coolers would get in the way of the paddles while paddling.
3- the coolers would be in the water and adding a significant amount of drag.
4- the awning would catch a lot of wind and blow the boat around a lot.
5- if used for fishing (which appears to be what it is meant for) then the awning posts are in the fishing rod holders.
6- further to above, the awning would get in the way of casting.
That having been said, it could be useful if:
A- you don't have to paddle far to get to your fishing spot.
B- you don't cast, but plan to just drop a line in.
C- you use an anchor
D- you add on another rod holder like one of these units to the front/table.
(https://i2.wp.com/www.paddlepursuits.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/p1030186.jpg?resize=696%2C522&ssl=1)
Otherwise, it seems like a cool idea. :D
Def
Post by: Myron on November 25, 2018, 04:46:03 PM
I've got an ancient Old Town Camper and two Wenonah Spirit II's. We use them for day paddling in northern Michigan and for tripping in Ontario. Invariably, any discussion of paddling also involves a discussion of dogs for me.
Here we see Zuzu waiting patiently at the put-in of the South Branch of the Au Sable River. We just lost old Zuzu this fall at the ripe old age of 14.
(https://i.imgur.com/jNQuiue.jpg)
Here's Dash out in the middle of Higgins Lake. I had taken the two Wenonah boats and fastened them together into a catamaran hull. We used this rig to find an underwater geocache in the lake.
(https://i.imgur.com/VeOpiHw.jpg)
Dash was perhaps the best paddling dog I ever had. Sadly he's now gone too. Here he is exploring the Cut River.
(https://i.imgur.com/X9Qa5id.jpg)
From left to right, here's Zuzu (back turned), Nina, and me on the South Branch again. The Camper is great because you can turn it around and paddle it solo.
(https://i.imgur.com/fsHkunc.jpg)
Nina used to love just hanging out in shallow water at our favorite break spot. Another great dog now gone, but she graced us with her gentle spirit for many years.
(https://i.imgur.com/wPAHIg5.jpg)
Here's Nina with the family fleet:
(https://i.imgur.com/eDdfW2W.jpg)
Here is Nina again on the Betsie River.
(https://i.imgur.com/PE8yb3J.jpg)
Hope you enjoyed my pics!
Myron
Post by: Gareth on November 25, 2018, 06:47:01 PM
Post by: ThundahBeagle on November 25, 2018, 09:50:08 PM
I've been kayaking for years, and since he came to me 4 years ago Scout the ThundahBeagle comes with me. Usually I hook his leash around some part of the seat frame of the kayak, running the end of the leash through the hand loop, and then clip to his harness. He stands on the bow and alternately jumps in.
But I've been thinking more and more about getting a canoe, as it seems it would provide more room for Scout.
Post by: SteveC on November 25, 2018, 11:34:08 PM
Awesome, awesome post Myron. :hatsoff:
+1 :salute:
Post by: MadPlumbarian on November 26, 2018, 02:06:02 AM
JR
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=WH9xGn5cIkQ
Post by: zoidberg on November 26, 2018, 02:22:00 AM
I thought I posted this on here, but someone posted it on Facebook and my freaking face dropped, especially when the one guy threw his paddle up in the air to cheer, OMG the eyes started to flow..
JR
https://forum.multitool.org/index.php/topic,79654.0.html
Post by: Myron on November 26, 2018, 02:39:42 AM
Awesome, awesome post Myron. :hatsoff:
Nice pics, Myron. Beautiful dogs, too God rest their souls.
I've been kayaking for years, and since he came to me 4 years ago Scout the ThundahBeagle comes with me. Usually I hook his leash around some part of the seat frame of the kayak, running the end of the leash through the hand loop, and then clip to his harness. He stands on the bow and alternately jumps in.
But I've been thinking more and more about getting a canoe, as it seems it would provide more room for Scout.
Awesome, awesome post Myron. :hatsoff:
+1 :salute:
Thanks you guys! Isn't it amazing how dogs and canoe trips just sort of seep into the corners of your life? I can't believe how many trips I've taken with these great beasts.
Happy Thanksgiving weekend to everyone observing it!
Myron
Post by: MadPlumbarian on November 26, 2018, 02:58:27 AM
I knew I saw that somewhere, those Rx really screw with ya! Or maybe it’s just old age?I thought I posted this on here, but someone posted it on Facebook and my freaking face dropped, especially when the one guy threw his paddle up in the air to cheer, OMG the eyes started to flow..
JR
https://forum.multitool.org/index.php/topic,79654.0.html
JR
Post by: Grant Lamontagne on November 26, 2018, 01:19:02 PM
I'm sorry to hear about the dogs, but it sounds like they had good, long, full lives, and they certainly seem happy to be in the canoes with you! Unfortunately my Daisy is a bit big at 140lbs to take in my kayaks, and at almost 11 years old with a bum leg, I don't think this is the time to introduce her to a canoe. I keep saying that my next dog will be something like a French Bulldog or Jack Russel that I can take in the kayak (or potential future canoe) with me, because I hate going in the woods and not taking my dog(s). It seems like I am cheating them of something they love too.
It also sounds like maybe you have been in and around some of my regular spots, if you come into Ontario from Michigan. My family is mostly in the area between Sault Ste Marie and Sudbury, and my parents live in Blind River, not far from Elliot Lake. That is, in my opinion, some of the absolute most beautiful hiking and paddling areas in the world! Next time you are heading that way, let me know and I'll do my best to meet up with you for an adventure!
Def
Post by: Myron on November 26, 2018, 03:59:35 PM
Myron
Post by: Grant Lamontagne on November 27, 2018, 03:17:11 AM
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Post by: Grant Lamontagne on February 26, 2019, 05:26:03 PM
http://multitool.org/blog/sog-knives-and-tools-supporting-extreme-athletes-in-amazing-adventures
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Post by: kottskrapa on July 12, 2019, 07:07:55 PM
Here is one from last time, forgot to take pics but got one.. I have a phone in aloksak and didn't take it out for the pic
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190712/ddf06ab7a7145ecfe61f8df8352c7246.jpg)
Post by: Grant Lamontagne on July 13, 2019, 02:34:33 AM
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Post by: kottskrapa on July 13, 2019, 09:30:22 AM
[It's not failure if you learn something from it]
Post by: Gareth on September 01, 2020, 06:19:33 PM
Got home, fed the dog and threw a few bits and pieces in the back of the car and headed back to the loch. Of course by this time the cloud has come over and has been brought by some wind. Not a super strong wind mind you, but enough that the high sided Sevylor really notices. I went out anyway and manfully paddled into a headwind thinking "at least I can enjoy a good push on the way back down". You know what's coming right? (No, I didn't capsize) I get to the top of the loch and the wind I'd been fighting for 40 minutes dies back. Not to nothing, but all the chop is gone and it's not going to help me one iota. Giving my arms a bit of a rest I very gently paddle back to the jetty and pull the boat out. Then I get a tail wind again. Still a nice way to spend an hour or so though.
(https://forum.multitool.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=77988.0;attach=487378)
(https://forum.multitool.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=77988.0;attach=487380)
(https://forum.multitool.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=77988.0;attach=487382)
Post by: kottskrapa on September 01, 2020, 07:01:28 PM
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200901/ea1eece984b10b5ada3223317dec0b77.jpg)
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Post by: Syncop8r on September 03, 2020, 10:02:57 PM
Post by: Grant Lamontagne on September 05, 2020, 02:20:44 PM
I've had a few paddling adventures this summer, but not nearly as many as I should have. I will (eventually) get them posted for all to see!
Def
Post by: kottskrapa on September 05, 2020, 02:51:20 PM
[It's not failure if you learn something from it]
Post by: Grant Lamontagne on September 06, 2020, 01:08:19 PM
Looking forward to it boss! And you are always welcome if you ever go to Sweden
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I have been showing your pics to my brother to try and convince him to come with me on a Scandinavian paddling trip, so keep posting them! :pok:
Def
Post by: kottskrapa on September 06, 2020, 05:21:33 PM
I have been showing your pics to my brother to try and convince him to come with me on a Scandinavian paddling trip, so keep posting them! :pok:Will do! Not getting out that much this year with the new baby and all but I will try at least one more time this season
Def
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Post by: kottskrapa on July 28, 2021, 07:01:10 PM
We paddle around an area that has an old fort and when getting to the outside we found a narrow channel that led to a nice spot for coffee and sandwiches
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210728/1aa2eb3dab7e29b9fa382949165a7b34.jpg)
Here you can se "carlstens fästning" in the background
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210728/32e2e4eea1caf97911bd0d3298d19b97.jpg)
Here is the place we found
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210728/22256a33dedc1690ba426b077ad1c2ce.jpg)
The green on is mine
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210728/5e8c91296f1be990625b6eae5b421eb0.jpg)
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Post by: Grant Lamontagne on July 28, 2021, 07:29:11 PM
We have been out a few times, but not many and not for long due to our hellish work schedules and other issues.
I'll post some pics when I can- until then I will enjoy yours to the fullest!
Def
Post by: Gareth on July 28, 2021, 08:31:29 PM
Post by: kottskrapa on July 28, 2021, 09:24:56 PM
What a beautiful place to paddle!It really was!
We have been out a few times, but not many and not for long due to our hellish work schedules and other issues.
I'll post some pics when I can- until then I will enjoy yours to the fullest!
Def
I'm looking forwards to some pics and hope that you get more time to paddle soon
That looks like a great paddle! :like:It really was! Here is some more about the fort of you want to read https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carlsten
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Post by: Syncop8r on July 29, 2021, 12:24:06 AM
Post by: Grant Lamontagne on July 30, 2021, 02:34:06 PM
https://youtu.be/teHaBvqPfrs
https://youtu.be/CHrnXXVzMTk
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Post by: Gareth on July 30, 2021, 02:40:40 PM
Post by: Gareth on July 30, 2021, 06:25:33 PM
(https://forum.multitool.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=77988.0;attach=517680)
(https://forum.multitool.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=77988.0;attach=517682)
(https://forum.multitool.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=77988.0;attach=517684)
Post by: Grant Lamontagne on July 30, 2021, 07:16:16 PM
The 360 camera is pretty cool- I'm still trying to figure it all out, but the bits I have managed so far are cool!
Def
Post by: kottskrapa on July 30, 2021, 09:19:32 PM
I did some brief testing with a cheap 360 camera a couple of times I went out. There's not much there, but it is kinda cool to be able to see all around!Cool videos boss and especially the second one looks like a real treat to paddle!
https://youtu.be/teHaBvqPfrs
https://youtu.be/CHrnXXVzMTk
Def
Nothing spectacular but had my daughter out for a paddle earlier this year. Inflatables are even easier with the addition of child labour. :DLooks like a nice trip! Always fun to do things with the kids and even if it's a small thing for us it's usually big for them
(https://forum.multitool.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=77988.0;attach=517680)
(https://forum.multitool.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=77988.0;attach=517682)
(https://forum.multitool.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=77988.0;attach=517684)
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Post by: Syncop8r on July 31, 2021, 12:09:43 AM
Those are superb Boss. :tu: Ain't technology a marvel? :D:iagree:
I didn't realise that could be done on YouTube.
Was it really that dark or is that a limitation with the camera?
Have you seen Outback's 360° Camera thread (https://forum.multitool.org/index.php/topic,87816.0/topicseen.html)?
Post by: Syncop8r on July 31, 2021, 12:10:58 AM
Nothing spectacular but had my daughter out for a paddle earlier this year. Inflatables are even easier with the addition of child labour. :DGood stuff. :tu:
How was it for her kneeling?
Post by: Outback in Idaho on July 31, 2021, 11:48:53 AM
I did some brief testing with a cheap 360 camera a couple of times I went out. There's not much there, but it is kinda cool to be able to see all around!
Def
Awesome stuff!! :2tu:
Wished there were kayaks made for wider folk in the 400# range. I know, lose weight, been trying to do that for years. Only way I lost weight was in the hospital, then gained it all back. :cry:
Some sort of portable water craft, but locally all we have are smelly rivers. Would have to drive a long ways to a lake. Least I have a recumbent trike. I like your 360 camera too. :cheers:
Post by: Outback in Idaho on July 31, 2021, 11:54:14 AM
:iagree:
I didn't realise that could be done on YouTube.
Was it really that dark or is that a limitation with the camera?
Have you seen Outback's 360° Camera thread (https://forum.multitool.org/index.php/topic,87816.0/topicseen.html)?
It's a camera hardware (or firmware) issue. In order to post to various sites they only accept "raw" footage. Not sure if there is some software that is capable of using enhanced/colorized videos/photos and put them back into whatever makes sites see them at 360° videos or photos. If enhanced and posted it looks bad.
Post by: Gareth on July 31, 2021, 02:07:31 PM
Good stuff. :tu:
How was it for her kneeling?
She's fine with it. IMO it is one of the limitations of the inflatable boats; even with a double ended paddle it can be tricky working over the gunwale from a low seat. With a single paddle it's even harder.
Post by: Grant Lamontagne on August 02, 2021, 01:43:19 AM
:iagree:
I didn't realise that could be done on YouTube.
Was it really that dark or is that a limitation with the camera?
Have you seen Outback's 360° Camera thread (https://forum.multitool.org/index.php/topic,87816.0/topicseen.html)?
Probably a limitation with the camera.
https://www.360fly.com/360fly-4k.html
It's an older camera, and it's slightly larger than a golf ball, with a single lense at the top. Since it is pointed right up at the sky I imagine it takes in a lot of light and that washes everything else out?
Once I get into the tree cover it isn't quite as dark looking.
Def
Post by: Outback in Idaho on August 02, 2021, 09:44:13 AM
If you had a bracket sticking out onside, mount it upside down?
Post by: Grant Lamontagne on August 02, 2021, 12:49:36 PM
Have you tried covering a smaller area of where it points directly up, or put a single sun glass lens portion over TDC?
If you had a bracket sticking out onside, mount it upside down?
I've thought of some kind of shade on top, but then it would be part of the video.
You can point the device in any direction- it doesn't have to be vertical, but remember that the camera is only filming in the direction it is pointed. With the videos above, it can't see straight down. If you point it forwards, it won't see what is directly behind you.
In my case, I wanted to be able to see Megan in the video, even when she wasn't directly in front of me, like I have to do with my GoPros. She was always coming in and out of the shot, and whenever cool stuff like waves hit her boat, she was rarely on film. With this camera, she can continue to go wherever she likes and I'll still have her in frame if something interesting happens.
There are somewhat better cameras on the market, but as you know, the price of this one was hard to argue with! :D
Def
Post by: Grant Lamontagne on August 08, 2021, 09:41:17 PM
This happened today. Completely unexpected.
I've been wanting a canoe for a while, and I have been holding off specifically for a Sports Pal. I spotted this one for a good price on FB Marketplace and I sent it to Megan to see. I had no intention of buying it.
She insisted we go check it out, probably to shut me up from saying how much I want one all the time.
Conveniently it is located an hour away. With thunderstorms forecasted for today, we don't know what else to do, so we go and check it out, figuring it will at least be a nice drive.
As you can see, it came home with us.
It's an 11 foot Sports Pal, which I didn't even know existed. I thought the smallest they made was a 12 foot one.
As to why I wanted one of these... they are made in North Bay, Ontario, about six hours east of Chako's place, four hours west of Ottawa and four hours east of my parent's place. The hull is formed from thin sheet aluminum, making the 11 foot canoe weigh just over 30 pounds, and my parents had a Sports Pal when I was growing up. I learned to paddle in one of these boats and I learned how to control a boat motor in one of these boats.
It is also very versatile, as it has oar locks, so in addition to paddling it like a regular canoe, you can row it as well.
Now I have one of my own, and according to the serial number, this one was made in 1990. It needs a little work, but I am thrilled to add it to the Lamontagne Fleet!
Def
Post by: kottskrapa on August 08, 2021, 10:00:22 PM
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Post by: Gareth on August 08, 2021, 10:13:15 PM
Post by: Grant Lamontagne on August 08, 2021, 10:24:05 PM
I'll have to do some research on it and see if it was a special model issued for certain retailers or something. I don't see a lot about it online- everything seems to revolve around 12, 14 and 16 foot models.
Def
Post by: Grant Lamontagne on August 08, 2021, 10:34:45 PM
http://www.sportspalcanoes.com/
Def
Post by: Syncop8r on August 09, 2021, 12:29:07 AM
I learned to paddle in one of these boats and I learned how to control a boat motor in one of these boats.So you can add a small motor?
Post by: Grant Lamontagne on August 09, 2021, 01:07:04 AM
Yes, even that.
And that.
And especially that.
As for a motor, yes, there are mounts designed to attach to any canoe for a motor.
Def
Post by: Syncop8r on August 09, 2021, 06:00:46 AM
And especially that.Canoodling. ::)
Post by: Gareth on August 09, 2021, 10:58:18 AM
Canoodling. ::):rofl:
Post by: Grant Lamontagne on August 09, 2021, 11:55:42 PM
Canoodling. ::)
You legally cannot call yourself a Canadian if you haven't.
Def
Post by: Outback in Idaho on August 11, 2021, 05:23:49 AM
Seen a 360 of a fella on an HP Velotecnic that shows clear around his recumbent trike. Had to been mounted above the headrest. But if a 360 Fly is up that high, an it see down and around okay? Don't have one to tinker with yet. Was looking at a Theta SC2, but they are obnoxious looking dual camera systems. Cannot imagine trying to record too long of a video with one.
How does yours attach to the kayak, and soon this canoe? I've got a canoe camera are I have to review yet. Nothing to attach there save maybe a GoPro Black 6, or a digital camera. IQUI does not have a tripod mount yet, and it does not do videos very well. The stitching is seriously bad on videos. Fusion is getting cheaper, but that Ricoh Theta SC2 seems to have a lot going for it and can go under water too, with enhanced view in multiple scenarios.
Ever kayak over one of them whale sharks yet?? :o
Post by: Grant Lamontagne on August 11, 2021, 07:35:06 PM
The 360Fly actually fits standard tripod mounts, so it will sit nicely on any normal camera equipment you have, plus it comes with a GoPro adaptor mount that allows it to fit on any GoPro style mount too.
I have used one of the sticky GoPro feet to attach it to my kayak, then have the adaptor stick to that. I had thought maybe I'd want it higher but I'm actually quite pleased with the level it is at now, which is about two inches off the boat.
I'll post a pic of the actual attachment setup when I get home.
Def