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Outdoor Section => The Outdoor and Survival Forum => Topic started by: Mike, Lord of the Spammers! on September 11, 2007, 12:46:01 PM
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So what do you use then?
For my part it's either the humble boot or one of my bicycle's :)
Piccies mandatory ;D
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I'm the same as you, unless i'm off out with the family to some place a bit too far to cycle.
My boots, Gelert something or others, had them for about 5yrs and they've been brilliant but are just starting to leak so i'll be looking for some new ones soon.
(http://www.highfield90.freeserve.co.uk/boots.jpg)
Bike, Land Rover Tahora.
(http://i15.tinypic.com/2w7e8fl.jpg)
Roadie
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Same here for me,either shank's mare or a bike.
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I'm the same as you, unless i'm off out with the family to some place a bit too far to cycle.
My boots, Gelert something or others, had them for about 5yrs and they've been brilliant but are just starting to leak so i'll be looking for some new ones soon.
(http://www.highfield90.freeserve.co.uk/boots.jpg)
Bike, Land Rover Tahora.
(http://i15.tinypic.com/2w7e8fl.jpg)
Roadie
Now that bike look's like it work's for it's living :)
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Same here for me,either shank's mare or a bike.
Are you sure you ain't british, you seem to know all our phrases too. ??? ;) ;D
I'd love to see some of your bike's mate :)
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Car and kayak for me- no bike and the feets don't work so well these days.
Def
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I'm a swamp head, so its 18" Lacrosses for me (in dry weather) and hip boots when its wet. :)
(http://www.workersworld.com/Publish/266050.jpg) (http://www.zappos.com/images/729/7290873/3832-357338-d.jpg)
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Same here for me,either shank's mare or a bike.
Are you sure you ain't british, you seem to know all our phrases too. ??? ;) ;D
I'd love to see some of your bike's mate :)
Just a plain old hillbilly from southern Uhia ;D My family roots in America,were in the Blue Ridge of Virginia and North Carolina from just before the Am. Rev. It's been said that a lot of English from the 17th and 18th cent was somehow preserved in Appalachia.
Working on getting a decent camera for some decent pics of my bikes...might be nice to have for myself,just in case I have another spill,and nothing's left of a bike but memories. :-[
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I'm a swamp head, so its 18" Lacrosses for me (in dry weather) and hip boots when its wet. :)
(http://www.workersworld.com/Publish/266050.jpg) (http://www.zappos.com/images/729/7290873/3832-357338-d.jpg)
I bet your a real babe magnet in those hip boots ;) ;D
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Same here for me,either shank's mare or a bike.
Are you sure you ain't british, you seem to know all our phrases too. ??? ;) ;D
I'd love to see some of your bike's mate :)
Just a plain old hillbilly from southern Uhia ;D My family roots in America,were in the Blue Ridge of Virginia and North Carolina from just before the Am. Rev. It's been said that a lot of English from the 17th and 18th cent was somehow preserved in Appalachia.
Working on getting a decent camera for some decent pics of my bikes...might be nice to have for myself,just in case I have another spill,and nothing's left of a bike but memories. :-[
Mind you I've always found my bike's (and motorbike's) Have crashed a lot better than I have ;D
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I used to use my mountain bike to go everywhere. Now I just use my car. It is definately more expensive but faster. :)
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I used to use my mountain bike to go everywhere. Now I just use my car. It is definately more expensive but faster. :)
Cycling is enjoying a real resurgence of interest in the UK as a lot of people are simply being priced of the road.
More and more people over here are using there cars less and less, because (at least over here) cars really don't work!
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Over here... everyone seems to be buying motorcycles. I think I saw more cycles this year than I've ever seen.
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Over here... everyone seems to be buying motorcycles. I think I saw more cycles this year than I've ever seen.
Apart from the fun factor, I think it's a combination of the fact that motorcycles are for the most part cheaper to run than cars, and the fact that for the most part there unaffected by traffic jams :)
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Over here... everyone seems to be buying motorcycles. I think I saw more cycles this year than I've ever seen.
Apart from the fun factor, I think it's a combination of the fact that motorcycles are for the most part cheaper to run than cars, and the fact that for the most part there unaffected by traffic jams :)
In these parts,motorcycles are part of the"follow the current trend" before MC's it was SUVs that everybody just had to be seen in.ATVs are another thing that have widespread popularity here,almost daily you'll hear of a fatality aboard an ATV,or a theft ring that concentrates on ATVs.
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That's just Mother Nature keeping the balance. If it weren't for folks killing themselves on motorcycles, they'd be killing themselves on whatever else was trendy.
Look at how many people are killed on snowmobiles every year after falling through thin ice. Every year there are warnings about it, yet every year more folks are killed that way.
Mother Nature is not to be messed with!
Def
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Over here... everyone seems to be buying motorcycles. I think I saw more cycles this year than I've ever seen.
Apart from the fun factor, I think it's a combination of the fact that motorcycles are for the most part cheaper to run than cars, and the fact that for the most part there unaffected by traffic jams :)
In these parts,motorcycles are part of the"follow the current trend" before MC's it was SUVs that everybody just had to be seen in.ATVs are another thing that have widespread popularity here,almost daily you'll hear of a fatality aboard an ATV,or a theft ring that concentrates on ATVs.
I've got to say it pretty easy to kill yourself on an ATV ;) Just ask ozzie osbourne ;D
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Mother Nature is not to be messed with!
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I'm sure I must have dated her daughter then, coz she's sure got it in for me now ;D
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Within the past year the West Virginia legislature was debating legislation mandating helmets for ATV riders,and the hue and cry was tremendous, mostly citing infringement on personal freedom.Frankly,if the opponents had just come out and said they were out to prove Darwin was right,their arguments would have more credibility.
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Within the past year the West Virginia legislature was debating legislation mandating helmets for ATV riders,and the hue and cry was tremendous, mostly citing infringement on personal freedom.Frankly,if the opponents had just come out and said they were out to prove Darwin was right,their arguments would have more credibility.
You mean you don't have to where a helmet :o
That's just stupid, there's no way you'd have caught me on one of those thing's with out a skid lid!
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Some folks have less worth protecting than others!
Def
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Some folks have less worth protecting than others!
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More or less every serious accident I've had I've smacked my head (explains a lot ;D) I probably wouldn't be here but for a decent crash helmet :)
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The number of ATV deaths has increased in the Ohio valley exponentially in the past year. People just do not get the fact that all the body armor and helmets do not prevent deaths due to stability. My co-worker and friend is on a long LOA because he wrecked his dirtbike practicing for a race. He overshot his jump by some 70 feet. He had the right pitch for the the landing unfortunately he landed on flat ground instead of downslope. He amazingly landed the jump. The force of the landing compression-fractured 5 of his vertabrae. He did not know that he was hurt until he could not move his legs to shift and the he fell off the bike. He now has like 20+ pieces of metal in his spine. He can walk but not race anymore.
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The number of ATV deaths has increased in the Ohio valley exponentially in the past year. People just do not get the fact that all the body armor and helmets do not prevent deaths due to stability. My co-worker and friend is on a long LOA because he wrecked his dirtbike practicing for a race. He overshot his jump by some 70 feet. He had the right pitch for the the landing unfortunately he landed on flat ground instead of downslope. He amazingly landed the jump. The force of the landing compression-fractured 5 of his vertabrae. He did not know that he was hurt until he could not move his legs to shift and the he fell off the bike. He now has like 20+ pieces of metal in his spine. He can walk but not race anymore.
Poor sod, sound's like he's lucky to be alive!
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The last time I rode an ATV I broke three ribs :P
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The last time I rode an ATV I broke three ribs :P
Thats the trouble with ATV :( despite having more wheel's there bloody unstable, I never came close to a serious crash on a trail bike, but I was In danger the second I so much as looked at a Quad ;D
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They aren't unstable- the riders are! :P Seriously, some folks just don't understand the power in some of these machines. My parents have two- an Arctic cat with a 300cc engine, and a Honda with a 250. The Honda is two wheel drive only, and has a much higher power to weight ratio than the Cat. Since it doesn't have the 4wd system that the Cat does, it's about half the weight, and if you aren't careful with the throttle on it, it can flip easily. My brother found that out the hard way and ended up rolling down the hill with it. I don't think that's instability so much as inexperience. People think it's got four wheels, it's like a car... not even close!
Def
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They aren't unstable- the riders are! :P Seriously, some folks just don't understand the power in some of these machines. My parents have two- an Arctic cat with a 300cc engine, and a Honda with a 250. The Honda is two wheel drive only, and has a much higher power to weight ratio than the Cat. Since it doesn't have the 4wd system that the Cat does, it's about half the weight, and if you aren't careful with the throttle on it, it can flip easily. My brother found that out the hard way and ended up rolling down the hill with it. I don't think that's instability so much as inexperience. People think it's got four wheels, it's like a car... not even close!
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What I meant was, you just can't corner them that well or fast as the outside wheel's lift really easily, at least that's the case with my 11stone hulking physique ;D
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Haha... 300cc & 250cc? Mine is a Yahama Grizzly 660 :)
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Haha... 300cc & 250cc? Mine is a Yahama Grizzly 660 :)
That's the one with the really trick suspention isn't it ???
I'm sure I saw one complete the paris dakar last year :)
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That's what my uncle has. The big bikes are great for some things, but the trails around my parent's place is mostly mud, trees and sand, where smaller, lighter and more maneuverable bikes are better suited. Remember this picture?
(http://www.sosakonline.com/images/stories/Vacation/atv01.jpg)
I don't want to think about how deep a 660 would have sunk in that mud!
Besides, the 300 managed to drag me and the 250 home well enough after that puddle. Of course the 250 runs rings around most ATV's because the whole machine weighs less than 300 pounds. Of course I don't think we ever exceeded 30mph, and that was on the road, not in the woods.
Def
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Many years ago,more than I care to count,one of my first runs as a newly minted EMT was a trauma code,involving an ATV rider,unfortunately a fatality.The whole thing was aggaravated by the rider having plowed open a nest of yellow-jackets.
A helmet might have helped some,but internal injuries were far too extensive and severe.
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Haha... 300cc & 250cc? Mine is a Yahama Grizzly 660 :)
That's the one with the really trick suspention isn't it ???
I'm sure I saw one complete the paris dakar last year :)
Crap... I spelt Yamaha wrong... (I went to publik skool)
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That's what my uncle has. The big bikes are great for some things, but the trails around my parent's place is mostly mud, trees and sand, where smaller, lighter and more maneuverable bikes are better suited. Remember this picture?
(http://www.sosakonline.com/images/stories/Vacation/atv01.jpg)
I don't want to think about how deep a 660 would have sunk in that mud!
Besides, the 300 managed to drag me and the 250 home well enough after that puddle. Of course the 250 runs rings around most ATV's because the whole machine weighs less than 300 pounds. Of course I don't think we ever exceeded 30mph, and that was on the road, not in the woods.
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When I first got the Grizzly, I would get stuck a bit, even with the locking diffs. I ended up changing from the stock tires to some ITP Mudlite's, and I very rarely get stuck anymore. It's been thru some seriously deep mud too (I love mud :) )
It's a nice machine, but I admit that I bought it because it was the biggest at the time. If I had to do it over, I would definately go with a smaller (and cheaper) quad.
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I love mud too- most pictures of me on an ATV are taken when we are stopped because I am in a mud pit that's a bit too deep! :grin:
I have to say, my initial reaction would be to get the biggest bike I could as well, but since driving my parent's quads (bear in mind my folks are in the latter half of their 60's and are off roading!) I see that anything over 300 is really overkill. My father's Cat managed to haul him, me and the Honda about ten miles over rough terrain to get home. The only thing that stopped the Honda was just the lack of serious low end bull power and no 4WD. However, it's maneuverability and light weight allow it to go many places other quads can't go, and it climbs hills like a billy goat.
Def
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Of all the trail bike's I've ever ridden in the dirt, this one was head and shoulder's better than the rest :)
I give you the yammie serow :)